[01:20] <reya276> Hey has anyone used Centrify before?
[01:20] <reya276> and do you need a Windows Active Directory Server?
[01:23] <reya276> ah darn it never mind you still need AD, damn it I want to get rid of Windows Server altogether!
[14:26] <dorgan> whats a good load average to keep a box under?
[14:31] <katyl> http://blog.scoutapp.com/articles/2009/07/31/understanding-load-averages
[14:31] <katyl> Good run through of load. <.70 seems to be the good answer.
[14:40] <dorgan> so having a load average that bumps up to between 1.5 and 2.5 is bad?
[14:42] <dorgan> actually its a multi-core system so staying under 3.5 is probably ideal...correct?
[15:17] <mhall119> zoopster: ping
[15:17] <zoopster> yo mhall119
[15:18] <mhall119> zoopster: what does rackspace use for their cloud?
[15:18] <zoopster> what do you mean
[15:18] <mhall119> is it Eucalyptus, OpenStack, UEC?
[15:18] <zoopster> it's rackspace
[15:18] <mhall119> their own?
[15:18] <zoopster> yes
[15:19] <zoopster> it's a xen dom0 customized approach similar to EC2
[15:19] <zoopster> they built a api
[15:19] <zoopster> they will convert to openstack novacc soon...it's being tested now, but it's not ready
[15:20] <mhall119> ah, ok
[15:20] <mhall119> I'm presenting to my department at 11 about ubuntu's cloud offering and other things I learned at UDS
[15:39] <zoopster> very cool mhall119 good luck...
[15:39] <zoopster> I just got back from the openstack summit
[15:39] <zoopster> good stuff
[15:41] <mhall119> thanks
[15:41] <mhall119> not that I think I'm going to make them go right out and buy Ubuntu servers
[15:42] <mhall119> but hopefully I'll at least make them start thinking about the benefits of an internal cloud
[15:42] <zoopster> good deal...share how it goes!
[15:42] <mhall119> will do
[15:53] <dorgan> mhall119: ping
[16:00] <mhall119> dorgan: I'll be back in an hour or so, meeting time
[16:00] <dorgan> mhall119: we use rackspace cloud and love it
[16:00] <dorgan> just wanted to say that :)
[16:55] <mhall119> dorgan: ok, thanks
[16:57] <mhall119> zoopster: so it went pretty well
[16:57] <mhall119> our director seemed interested and was asking what we would have to do to start evaluating cloud tech
[16:59] <mhall119> our biggest issue will probably be that we're invested in RedHat right now
[16:59] <dorgan> why not go with centOS then?
[16:59] <dorgan> or is more of a support contract length type issue?
[17:02] <mhall119> I'm not sure of the reasons, but likely it's support
[17:02] <mhall119> for not going to CentOS
[17:02] <mhall119> it'll be a barrier to Ubuntu just because it'll be a change
[17:03] <dorgan> gotcha...
[17:04] <dorgan> well like I said we are using rackspace cloud for a couple of our SaaS solutions and we love it...(knock on wood) havent had any server downtime...from time to time their control is slow...but overall its a great service and I was very impressed by the speed of servers
[17:35] <reya276> hello everyone
[17:44] <dorgan> mhall119: there is also these guys....http://www.gigenetcloud.com   we're thinking of trying them
[17:51] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7 i texted u yest. did u received it?
[19:04] <zoopster> mhall119: glad to hear it went well...happy to work with you on fodder to show the move away from RH/CentOS is justifiable
[19:05] <zoopster> mhall119: for that matter you can run centos as guests in UEC easily
[19:06] <zoopster> dorgan: everyone and their brother has a "cloud" solution...gigenetcloud appears to be simply managed virtualization. Really only Rackspace and EC2 have true cloud offerings
[19:41] <dorgan> anyone else agree with zoopsters last statement...not sure how rackspacecloud is a true cloud and gigenetcloud isnt
[19:41] <dorgan> maybe someone can enlightenme
[22:22] <reya276> what is the buttons combination at boot time to get to CLI for some reason my GDM is not showing