[01:29] <cjohnston> newz2000: whenever you return, could you please look at that bug again
[01:33] <newz2000> such drama
[14:52] <AlanBell> did the wiki theme just change?
[15:03] <newz2000> AlanBell: earlier this week
[15:04] <AlanBell> no, it got made default just a few minutes ago
[15:05] <AlanBell> good that the smilies got fixed before it went live
[15:17] <newz2000> oh, it was just a few min ago
[16:29] <AlanBell> hmm, diff pages are not hilighted any more
[16:30] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda?action=diff&rev2=99&rev1=97 for example
[21:10] <newz2000> drat
[21:11] <newz2000> AlanBell: if you see any more bugs would you go ahead and report them on ubuntu-website and tag them as light-wiki?
[21:11] <newz2000>  ^ anyone can do that actually
[21:11] <newz2000> bonus points if you give me a ping here after reporting it
[21:33] <AlanBell> yeah, will do
[21:34] <newz2000> AlanBell: and if you'd like to submit a patch, that would be OK too. ;-)
[21:35] <AlanBell> newz2000: can we get the code sorted out
[21:35] <newz2000> AlanBell: which code?
[21:36] <AlanBell> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/light-moin-theme ended up being pointed at my branch
[21:36] <AlanBell> not sure who did that, might have been cjohnston
[21:36] <AlanBell> which is plainly wrong as the code on the website isn't that code
[21:37] <newz2000> yeah, let me see, that is a bit odd
[21:37] <AlanBell> I don't know what code is live at the moment
[21:37]  * newz2000 isn't sure either
[21:37] <AlanBell> I can't really do any sane patching if the trunk doesn't exist
[21:38]  * cjohnston didnt do anything
[21:38] <AlanBell> mhall119: maybe?
[21:38] <newz2000> it's in my junk! lp:~newz/+junk/light-wiki
[21:38] <AlanBell> yeah, that is the wrong place too!
[21:39] <AlanBell> I can't do merge proposals to that
[21:40] <newz2000> should I change the owner to ubuntu-website?
[21:40] <newz2000> btw, if anything goes wrong, always blame me. That's my job.
[21:40] <cjohnston> Bug #674130
[21:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 674130 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu wiki : "Page immuable" isn't at the tright place (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674130
[21:41] <newz2000> maybe I should have pushed it to ~newz/+junk/ubuntu-website/light-wiki ?
[21:42] <newz2000> or maybe ~newz/ubuntu-website/light-wiki
[21:42]  * newz2000 tries that
[21:43] <AlanBell> well I think it should be to a branch owned by a team or something
[21:43] <cjohnston> I belive it should be ubuntu-website/light-moin-theme and owned by the commiuunity team
[21:43] <AlanBell> like https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-website-community/ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme
[21:43] <cjohnston> ya
[21:44]  * newz2000 tries
[21:44] <newz2000> created new branch
[21:44] <cjohnston> hmm
[21:45] <cjohnston> lp:~ubuntu-website-community/ubuntu-website/light-wiki
[21:45] <cjohnston> then...
[21:45] <cjohnston> is it the ubuntu-website/light-moin-theme newz2000 ?
[21:46] <newz2000> They have a similar lineage
[21:46] <AlanBell> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-website-community doesn't look quite right
[21:47] <newz2000> there are other themes for ~ubuntu-website-community
[21:47] <AlanBell> lp:ubuntu-website/light-moin-theme would be consistent with the others
[21:47] <cjohnston> refresh
[21:47] <cjohnston> fixed
[21:47] <AlanBell> great
[21:47] <cjohnston> I think atleast
[21:48] <cjohnston> now it needs the code uploaded to it
[21:48] <AlanBell> that looks good to me
[21:48] <newz2000> I think its there
[21:48] <cjohnston> it is
[21:48] <cjohnston> sweet
[21:49] <AlanBell> bug 635035 is now properly fixed \o/
[21:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 635035 in ubuntu-website "light-moin-theme is not on Launchpad (affects: 1) (heat: 4)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/635035
[21:49] <newz2000> woo!
[21:49] <cjohnston> lol
[21:50] <cjohnston> moin sucks
[21:50] <cjohnston> did I say that
[21:50] <newz2000> If I could just move 6 bugs to "fix completed" at once in launchpad, that would rock
[21:50] <cjohnston> file a bug
[21:51] <newz2000> I've got an api...
[21:51] <AlanBell> moin without xapian sucks
[21:51] <newz2000> yeah, that would help
[21:53] <AlanBell> I think there are about 600 pages that do a brute force full text search each time they are opened
[21:53] <newz2000> If you guys see any wiki bugs that are high priority, definitely mark them as such.
[21:54] <AlanBell> fairly sure that the save delay is also due to some kind of search going on as it is the same 20 second or so response time
[21:54] <newz2000> Next week, say Tuesday or so, I'll do a half day sprint closing them out
[21:54] <newz2000> AlanBell: yes, it has to look for users who are subscribed
[21:54] <AlanBell> thought so
[21:54] <AlanBell> so how come someone doesn't check the box and turn on xapian?
[21:55] <AlanBell> people have been bitching about the wiki performance for years
[21:55] <newz2000> I can't remember, it may be either we're using a slightly too old version or there was some issue with xapien
[21:55] <AlanBell> all the moin sucks, lets use mediawiki stuff is just down to performance, not syntax or anything rational
[21:56] <newz2000> AlanBell: probably the best way to get this chagned is to push for it leading up to next UDS. I honestly doubt it will happen before then.
[21:56] <cjohnston> newz2000: who is responsible for uds.ubuntu.com
[21:56] <newz2000> cjohnston: it's not you?
[21:56]  * newz2000 keeps mixing them up...
[21:56] <AlanBell> and yes, it is an old version as I was talking to the moin developers in #moin about it and 1.6 is totally out of support now
[21:57] <cjohnston> lol
[21:57] <cjohnston> no
[21:57] <newz2000> Well, the photos imply its' the design team
[21:57] <AlanBell> did jono ever hand that over to anyone else?
[21:57] <cjohnston> dunnp... theres bugs being filed on it
[21:57] <newz2000> of course if it were thed esign team there would be no purple on it
[21:58] <AlanBell> have they gone off Aubergine?
[21:58] <cjohnston> it doesnt follow design standards at all
[21:58] <newz2000> true
[21:58] <cjohnston> AlanBell: no mixing
[21:58] <newz2000> AlanBell: aubergine is business = canonical
[21:58] <newz2000> cjohnston: that's not quite right either
[21:59] <newz2000> more business = more aubergine
[21:59] <AlanBell> uds isn't Canonical!!
[21:59] <cjohnston> thats what i was told
[21:59] <cjohnston> we wanted to change summit to aubergine
[21:59] <newz2000> right, that is pure community, no purple
[21:59] <AlanBell> and the torus pie chart things indicate a mix
[21:59] <newz2000> (taht was meant for AlanBell but works for cjohnston's comment too)
[22:00] <AlanBell> http://design.canonical.com/brand/5.%20Ubuntu%20colour%20palettes%20and%20colour%20landscape.pdf page 53
[22:00] <cjohnston> newz2000: Bug #671122 <-- just for you
[22:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 671122 in ubuntu-website "install an accessible wiki theme (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/671122
[22:01]  * newz2000 smacks head
[22:01] <cjohnston> thank AlanBell for that one
[22:01] <newz2000> thank you AlanBell
[22:01] <AlanBell> yup, I was going to come on to that!
[22:04] <AlanBell> the light-moin-theme release today didn't go down that well with the low vision users in #ubuntu-accessibility
[22:04] <AlanBell> small font, grey on grey
[22:05] <newz2000> probably the best place to discuss this is on the mailing list
[22:05] <newz2000> That way we can get the attention of the designers
[22:05] <AlanBell> bunging the simple-mente theme in the list of available themes would be good
[22:05] <newz2000> AlanBell: is it compatible with 1.6?
[22:05] <AlanBell> https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2010-October/001064.html
[22:05] <AlanBell> I believe it is compatible with 1.6
[22:06] <newz2000> ok, I'll forward that e-mail to the designers
[22:06]  * newz2000 wonders how he missed that before
[22:06] <AlanBell> not many actual theme changes between 1.6 and 1.9 and I think simple mente is a few years old
[22:07] <AlanBell> http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/SimpleMente there is a 1.6 release
[22:09] <AlanBell> if we can get that installed I can get feedback from users who can set it as their personal default and then I can fix anything wrong with it
[22:09] <newz2000> I think I'd rather get light-theme fixed
[22:11] <AlanBell> well that isn't going to be high contrast
[22:12] <AlanBell> it would be great to get all the navigation stuff into the light theme
[22:16] <AlanBell> with http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/ I started from the default wordpress theme and then made the body text darker and background lighter and size bigger until the verdict in -accessibility was that the text no longer looked fuzzy
[22:18]  * newz2000 thinking out loud a bit...
[22:18] <newz2000> a simple js/css based style switcher could do all of that
[22:18] <AlanBell> it could
[22:19] <newz2000> AlanBell: do you want to propose an additional css style sheet that could be included to increase the contrast, font size and line spacing a bit?
[22:20] <AlanBell> ok
[22:24] <AlanBell> so my branch is rather diverged from the trunk at this point, with a bunch of changes that have been manually merged, or won't be merged
[22:25] <AlanBell> not sure how to realign it
[22:25] <newz2000> AlanBell: I do'nt think you can reconcile the two
[22:27] <AlanBell> hmm, bzr pull and merge or something might do it
[22:28] <newz2000> You can give it a shot, but I'd suggest starting with a clean copy of my branch
[22:28] <newz2000> What I do is this:
[22:28] <newz2000> mkdir project-name
[22:28] <newz2000> mv old-branch project-name/old-branch-archive
[22:28] <newz2000> cd project-name
[22:28] <newz2000> bzr branch new-branch
[22:29] <newz2000> That way you can still refer to old-branch if you need
[22:29] <AlanBell> hmm, merging seems like it will teach me more about bzr though :)
[22:30] <newz2000> well, the right way to do that is this...
[22:30] <newz2000> bzr branch new-branch new-branch-bug123
[22:30] <newz2000> then work in new-branch-bug123 and when done push it as a merge proposal
[22:30] <newz2000> then when approved, merge back into new-branch and push it
[22:31] <newz2000> if you merge your branch with mine you'll get a combination of conflicts and things that I won't accept in a merge proposal
[22:31] <newz2000> (i.e. purple headings)
[22:47] <AlanBell> ok, took a fresh branch
[22:48] <AlanBell> that is a lot of executable images in /light/img
[22:49] <AlanBell> and css files
[22:51] <AlanBell> so if I pop together an accessible stylesheet how would that get loaded?
[22:51] <AlanBell> would it stay loaded as you navigate around the wiki?