[00:08] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1195778 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationWidget.cpp ApplicationWidget.h) Improve layouting, populate the screenshot label with the package's thumbnail, if available.
[00:17] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1195783 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationWindow.cpp ApplicationWindow.h) Start the application with the categorical view selected on the view switcher
[00:57] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1195801 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (8 files in 2 dirs) Fancy things such as remembering window size and splitter size
[01:07] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1195807 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/TODO Update TODO
[03:31] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1195837 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (6 files in 2 dirs) Prepare for fetching bigger screenshots, fix some alignment issues.
[03:40] <JontheEchidna> http://imgur.com/5Fjz7
[03:48] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1195839 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationWidget.cpp ApplicationWidget.h) Add a clickable website label
[04:06] <ScottK> apachelogger: Seems fine now.
[09:18] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ping
[10:22] <hunger> Yeah! Creator builds again!
[10:22] <hunger> Always amazing what a little Qt update does:-)
[10:28] <freeflying> Riddell, you there?
[10:47] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I think rekonq should get User CSS per Site feature
[10:56] <al> can i get pbuilder to run multiple compiler jobs simultaneously?
[10:56] <al> exporting DEBBUILDOPTS="-j9" seems to not have done the trick for me
[11:06] <yofel> I use
[11:06] <yofel> DEBBUILDOPTS="-j4"
[11:06] <yofel> export MAKEFLAGS="-j4"
[11:06] <yofel> which works for some packages at least
[11:15] <al> yofel, thanks
[11:15] <al> hmpf, pbuilder isn't using ccache either
[11:39] <Quintasan> al: you need to configure it to do so
[11:39] <Quintasan> but I think someone said it is broken
[11:40] <al> Quintasan, yea i found some instructions but they had no effect
[12:20] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: feel free tom implement it
[12:24] <shadeslayer> hmm
[12:24] <shadeslayer> anyone around?
[12:25] <nigelb> No.
[12:25] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[12:25] <shadeslayer> nigelb: can you install skrooge and tell me if it runs for you?
[12:25] <shadeslayer> and if it pulls in libqca2-plugin-ossl
[12:25] <nigelb> shadeslayer: mav?
[12:25] <shadeslayer> yus
[12:25] <nigelb> sorry, lucid here :(
[12:25] <shadeslayer> hmm
[12:25] <shadeslayer> well.. can you pastebin the output of sudo apt-get install skrooge?
[12:26] <nigelb> can't figure that out with apt-cache?
[12:26] <shadeslayer> nigelb: dont download and install, just need to see if  it pulls in libqca2-plugin-ossl
[12:27] <nigelb> shadeslayer: well, it sould
[12:28] <shadeslayer> yes, but it doesnt
[12:28] <nigelb> its a suggests 
[12:28] <nigelb> so it depends on what package management tool you're using
[12:28] <shadeslayer> someone reported that skrooge doesnt work without it
[12:28] <nigelb> oh oh
[12:28] <nigelb> that means its time for upgrade from suggests 
[12:29] <shadeslayer> yes
[12:29] <shadeslayer> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2010-November/006953.html
[12:29] <nigelb> yay
[12:30] <shadeslayer> whaaa... im getting just 25 KBps
[12:30] <shadeslayer> i guess Airtel went kaboom
[12:31] <nigelb> or they decided you're the cause for their bandwidth fail :p
[12:31] <nigelb> (highly likely)
[12:31] <shadeslayer> :P
[12:31] <shadeslayer> quite possible
[12:32] <nigelb> lol
[12:32] <shadeslayer> hmm.. the problem is genuine
[12:33] <shadeslayer> Riddell: im cleaning out ninjas
[12:35] <shadeslayer> ok its a bug in debian packaging as well
[12:40] <shadeslayer> so
[12:40] <shadeslayer> nigelb: its a bug in skrooge :P
[12:40] <shadeslayer> seems skrooge is a GPL app and it cannot require openssl
[12:42] <skfin> Hey shadeslayer :)
[12:42] <shadeslayer> skfin: \o
[12:42] <nigelb> shadeslayer: yay
[12:42] <nigelb> lol
[12:42] <shadeslayer> im going to have fun reporting this to skrooge people
[12:45] <shadeslayer> oooh
[12:45] <shadeslayer> ninjas is already clean
[12:46] <shadeslayer> hahhaha
[12:46] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://pastebin.ca/1988978
[12:46] <shadeslayer> your changelog is the awesome
[12:50] <skfin> shadeslayer: Do you have a blog? I would add it to our brand new planet system.
[12:50] <skfin> Whoops wrong channel
[12:50] <shadeslayer> skfin: i dont blog
[12:50] <shadeslayer> i should tho
[12:50] <skfin> shadeslayer: blag
[12:50] <shadeslayer> i dont blag either :P
[12:50] <skfin> Blah :D
[12:51] <shadeslayer> i dont even have a domain
[12:51] <skfin> shadeslayer: Okay, when you do have, link it to me... I'll add it to planet soruces...have you seen it?
[12:51] <shadeslayer> skfin: yep ...
[12:51] <skfin> shadeslayer: You could use something like wordpress.com
[12:51] <shadeslayer> yeah, but im too lazy to setup a new account
[12:51] <skfin> Haha thats your problem dude :)
[12:52] <nigelb> lol, skfin I agree :p
[12:53] <skfin> :D
[12:57] <shadeslayer> i haz my bandwidth back \o/
[12:57] <nigelb> oh no....
[13:03] <skfin> Shame.
[13:03] <skfin> shameslayer
[14:33] <apachelogger> :O
[14:33] <apachelogger> what the heck
[14:34] <apachelogger> dantti: so I got my printer, plugged it in, started the pc an the printer is already there :O
[14:34] <apachelogger> is there almighty cups magic going on?
[14:47] <shadeslayer> while were on the topic of printers
[14:48] <shadeslayer> my college has a HP 2420 printer and you cannot print anything from it
[14:48] <shadeslayer> it keeps printing garbage
[14:49] <skfin> It's HP, what else?
[14:49] <skfin> :D
[14:49] <skfin> I gtg anyway
[14:51] <al> shadeslayer, try the different drivers, one will work
[14:52] <shadeslayer> al: thats what i did, still keeps printing garbage 
[14:52] <al> i'm using the non-foomatic PS driver on a hp lj 4100
[14:52] <shadeslayer> and now i have no sound :S
[14:52] <al> but foomatic/ps Foomatic/hpijs and Foomatic/lj4dith worked too iirc
[14:53]  * ScottK has two HP printers here and they both just worked with whatever the default driver was.
[14:53] <al> yep, same here
[14:53] <al> just the speeds were differing
[14:57] <shadeslayer> *shrug* ... just know that it doesnt work
[14:57] <apparle> Kudos guys, 10.10 awesome, super awesome
[15:00] <apparle> and the moment I pressed enter on that "super awesome" message and my x server restarted ........ irony
[15:05] <ghostcube> guys i think iam going to get old, but did apt-cache policy not show the server from wehere i can get the package i the past
[15:05] <ghostcube> *n
[15:07] <apparle> guys, why is aptitude removed?
[15:07] <apparle> from the default installtion
[15:12] <ScottK> apparle: To save space.
[15:12] <ScottK> For people who want aptitude, it's trivial to install.
[15:13] <ScottK> (it wasn't just Kubuntu, it was all images)
[15:24] <apachelogger> Quintasan_: pong
[15:30] <Quintasan_> I totally forgot what I wanted :P
[15:32] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: his new printer?
[16:49] <ScottK> bluedevil 1.0 for someone to package.
[16:58] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ill take it up
[16:58] <ScottK> Great.  
[17:01] <shadeslayer> ScottK: it should be on kde-apps right?
[17:01] <shadeslayer> and package for natty?
[17:02] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Packages for Natty.  The blog post on p.k.o has the links.
[17:02] <shadeslayer> ah
[17:19] <shadeslayer> ScottK: so library version is still 1.8 but they have made changes, should i just make the package 1.8-0ubuntu2 ?
[17:19] <shadeslayer> so as in so the lib version...
[17:19] <ScottK> I didn't look at the details.
[17:19] <ScottK> If they released a new tarball with new content, it should have a new version.
[17:20] <shadeslayer> CMake says something else
[17:20] <shadeslayer> CMakeLists
[17:21] <shadeslayer> afiestas: ^^
[17:24] <afiestas> ereslibre is fixing it right now
[17:25] <afiestas> shadeslayer: downlad the tarbal again
[17:25] <shadeslayer> same link?
[17:25] <afiestas> yes
[17:26] <shadeslayer> right fixed now
[17:27] <shadeslayer> afiestas: 1.8-1 ... weird version :P
[17:28] <shadeslayer> why not 1.8.1 or something?
[17:28] <afiestas> ask ereslibre xD
[17:29] <shadeslayer> nick??
[17:29] <shadeslayer> i wonder if we have packages like 1.8-1-0ubuntu1
[17:40] <afiestas> shadeslayer: iirc, you do
[17:41] <shadeslayer> afiestas: any hints? i would like to double check before we proceed 
[17:41] <shadeslayer> s/we/i
[17:41] <afiestas> well, I don't know anything about debian packaging :/
[17:41] <yofel> shadeslayer: according to the policy it's allowed it seems, as long as a debian_version is present (0ubuntu1 here)
[17:42] <yofel> (ubuntu-policy policy.pdf.gz page 48)
[17:42] <shadeslayer> yofel: hmm... if you say so, ive never handled this type of case before :P
[17:43] <yofel> me neither :P
[17:48] <shadeslayer> i think the policy manual applies here
[17:55] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You scared him off.
[17:55] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:55] <shadeslayer> ScottK: am i becoming like apachelogger? :P
[17:56] <ScottK> No.  apachelogger is friendly.  We established that at UDS.
[17:56] <apachelogger> right
[17:56] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i think that mode will pass....
[17:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also you need to rename kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts or whatever its silly name was
[17:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah i remember ... :P
[17:57] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Being the pessimist is my job, not yours.
[17:57] <shadeslayer> i just dont get enough time from exams and stuff
[17:57] <ScottK> And yet there is time for sleeping.  Where are your priorities.
[18:12] <shadeslayer> ScottK: this was a interesting read, http://people.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html
[18:12] <shadeslayer> and the thing is... skrooge depends on that stuff
[18:12] <shadeslayer> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2010-November/006953.html
[18:14] <ScottK> Yep.
[18:15] <ScottK> The simple solution would be is Skrooge upstream would add the openssl exception.
[18:15] <ScottK> is/if
[18:16] <shadeslayer> ive already forwarded necessary stuff
[18:43] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196176 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (4 files) "Borrow" the screenshot viewer KDialog class w/the nice effects from KPackageKit ;-)
[18:55] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: There is a webkitkde merge that needs doing.  I TIL to fix FTBFS, but you've done most of the work on it, would you please have a look.
[18:55] <JontheEchidna> Oh, is that the variables.mk FTBFS?
[18:56] <ScottK> Yep.
[18:56] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, the debian/rules is probably just a bit too old. (The only thing stopping me from source format 3.0 is debian's package not being 3.0/kde.mk)
[18:57] <JontheEchidna> I'll take a look at it right after this commit
[18:58] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196185 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationModel/ApplicationDelegate.cpp Start of support for an "installed" emblem on Application icons in the applications list. I have to do a bit of icon copying/installing that I don't have the energy to figure out at the moment before it'll actually work
[18:59] <JontheEchidna> aha, just missing a pkg-kde-tools build-dep
[19:12] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: didn't you already upload the fix for this 5 days ago? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkitkde/0.9.6-0ubuntu2
[19:12] <evilshadeslayer> ScottK: bluedevil in there https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra
[19:12] <evilshadeslayer> bluedevil is building tho
[19:13] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I did.  That's why I'm TIL, but accordig to MoM a merge is needed.
[19:13] <JontheEchidna> TIL == ?
[19:13] <ScottK> Touched It Last
[19:13] <JontheEchidna> ah, right
[19:13] <JontheEchidna> it also means Today I Learned
[19:13] <ScottK> ;-)
[19:14] <ScottK> evilshadeslayer: I can't review it now, but if someone else doesn't get to it, I'll try for later tonight.
[19:14] <evilshadeslayer> sure
[19:14] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: it shouldn't really need a merge. Debian is just unsafely not using a ~ to separate the version number and the svn revision
[19:14] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: OK.  Thanks.
[19:15] <JontheEchidna> I predict an epoch in that package's future :(
[19:16] <JontheEchidna> (plus we have the final 0.9.6 release)
[19:17] <ScottK> OK.
[19:17] <ScottK> Thanks.
[19:17] <evilshadeslayer> hahah : http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/footnotes.html#f35
[19:36] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196199 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationWidget.cpp ApplicationWidget.h) Follow KWin's settings for animation speed (and by extension whether to animate at all)
[19:38] <JontheEchidna> if you hate animations, you likely already have them disabled in kwin if you're using compositing ;-)
[19:40] <mgraesslin> erm which settings are you following there?
[19:41] <JontheEchidna> mgraesslin: [Compositing] animationSpeed=x
[19:41] <mgraesslin> seriously: this is kwin internal
[19:41] <mgraesslin> don't do something like that
[19:43] <JontheEchidna> it does have a fallback if the config value isn't set
[19:43] <mgraesslin> what if we change the meaning of the config?
[19:44] <mgraesslin> and is it expected that desktop effect setting is used in muon?
[19:44] <mgraesslin> when there is a global animation settingin kdelibs?
[19:44] <JontheEchidna> oh, there is?
[19:44] <mgraesslin> yes there is
[19:44] <mgraesslin> it's used for example in Plasma and Oxygen and KWin
[19:45] <JontheEchidna> know what class that is?
[19:48] <mgraesslin> JontheEchidna: KGlobalSettings::graphicEffectsLevel()
[19:50] <JontheEchidna> that can tell me animation speed for a fade-in animation?
[19:50] <mgraesslin> no, it tells you if the user wants effects
[19:50] <mgraesslin> you cannot get the speed of the fade-in animation
[19:51] <mgraesslin> as that is completely internal to fade-in effect
[19:52] <JontheEchidna> I guess I'll just hardcode it then
[19:53] <mgraesslin> a better idea
[19:56] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196211 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationWidget.cpp ApplicationWidget.h) Revert the last commit. Not a good idea
[21:10] <dantti> wow, f14 installed in 10 minutes on virtual box and with a running kde session, our installer does needs love :P
[21:12] <dasKreech> I still love that it takes like a 1 day to install and configure Windows
[21:12] <dantti> hehe
[21:12] <Quintasan> evilshadeslayer: Ya updating bluedevil?
[21:14] <yofel> what we need it 'dpkg --no-sync'
[21:14] <neversfelde> apachelogger: I need a translation
[21:15] <yofel> s/it/is/
[21:15] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196237 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationWidget.cpp ApplicationWidget.h) Cleanup
[21:19] <Quintasan> apachelogger's favourite package in repositories? python-magic
[21:32] <Quintasan> ScottK: libbluedevil-v1.8-1.tar.bz2  <--- do we have to do something about the 1.8-1 or I just should make it 1.8-1-0ubuntu1?
[21:32] <ScottK> I believe the latter.
[21:33] <Quintasan> ScottK: What about python-sip?
[21:34] <ScottK> Didn't get a chance to look at it yet.
[21:42] <Quintasan> Riddell: If you're around I have a debdiff for new libbluedevil and I will update bluedevil to 1.0 release shortly
[21:44] <Quintasan> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/libbluedevil_1.8-1-0ubuntu1.debdiff
[21:44] <ScottK> Quintasan: Shadeslayer made one already. https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra
[21:44] <Quintasan> d'oh
[21:45]  * Quintasan just wasted 20 precious seconds
[21:46] <Quintasan> evilshadeslayer: testing bluedevil
[21:56] <Quintasan> afiestas: I might have suggested that in the past but a Send via Bluetooth Action in Dolphin for BlueDevil would be nice. bluedevil-sendfile accepts only URL to device, not to file
[22:20] <afiestas> Quintasan: we'll do it for 4.6, since is only from that version that dolphin implements a proper way to implement it
[22:20] <Quintasan> great
[22:20] <afiestas> we didn't did it yet because right now what we can do is just add a dummy entry, that will be shown even if the computer doesn't have a bluetooth adapter
[22:25] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196281 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/muon/ManagerWidget.cpp Remove unnecessary include