[00:02] <fabio> !list
[00:03] <yigegong> #ubuntu-cn
[00:23] <fabio> hello
[00:25] <dbc254> can anyone tell me how to find the ID of my new wireless card?
[00:32] <d_ed> what do you mean by ID?
[00:32] <d_ed> Mac Address?
[00:45] <dbc254> I just put the card in. How do I get it to scan for anything?
[01:03] <xrdodrx> Is the standard kubuntu-desktop suitable for a netbook?
[01:04] <Pici> xrdodrx: Sure.
[01:05] <xrdodrx> Pici, I mean is it slower than GNOME
[01:05] <Pici> xrdodrx: Oh.  I don't know.  I don't use KDE myself.
[01:05] <xrdodrx> because I like KDE so much more, but am hesitant to put it on here
[01:05] <xrdodrx> Pici, umm, ok
[01:05] <xrdodrx> o_O
[01:06] <jmichaelx> xrdodrx: kde has a netbook gui built-in, but you will have to read up on how to use it... i never have
[01:06] <Pici> xrdodrx: I thought you were just asking in regards to the package name.
[01:07] <jmichaelx> xrdodrx: yo umay have to install a few packages to have that netbook gui available, though
[01:07] <xrdodrx> @Pici, lol I'm not that dumb, @jmichaelx, do you think it would run fine w/o the netbook gui
[01:07] <jmichaelx> xrdodrx: i don't see why not
[01:07] <Pici> xrdodrx: Didn't mean to say you were.  People do ask that though ;)
[01:07] <xrdodrx> I mean, does it make much of a difference.
[01:08] <xrdodrx> Because unity actually was slower (for me) than regular gnome
[01:08] <jmichaelx> xrdodrx: the kubuntu netbook gui does not have unity, of course
[01:08] <xrdodrx> jmichaelx, yeah
[01:09] <xrdodrx> but I'm just asking if the netbook gui would be that much quicker
[01:09] <jmichaelx> xrdodrx: unity is one reason i stayed with 10.04 on my dell mini-9... not to mention the fact that mobile intel drivers in 10.10 suck
[01:09] <jmichaelx> xrdodrx: lie i said, i have never used it
[01:09] <jmichaelx> like*
[01:10] <xrdodrx> eh, I may as well just install it
[01:10] <xrdodrx> I can always apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop
[01:10] <xrdodrx> right?
[01:12] <jmichaelx> well.... apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop... and no, kubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package... removing it would only remove the meta-package itself, but not all of the packages it causes to be installed
[01:14] <xrdodrx> jmichaelx, I think this'll work: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[01:25] <shjordan> Hi
[01:25] <shjordan> can anyione help me?
[01:25] <paska> what's ur problem?
[01:26] <shjordan> my screen resolution is now set to full hd, i just installed nvidia driver.
[01:26] <shjordan> BUT, all my fonts are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo small that i can't even read the names on the K-menu
[01:27] <shjordan> detail = i'm using a 32" full hd monitor.
[01:27] <shjordan> i'm not used to Kubuntu, if i was, i could take a screenshot to you.
[01:28] <paska> press printscreen to take a screenshot
[01:30] <shjordan> paska: where can i paste it? over internet?
[01:31] <paska> I use imageshack
[01:32] <jmichaelx> is there any way to automatically disable screensavers while watching videos in apps like miro?
[01:32] <shjordan> uploading
[01:32] <shjordan> gonna take a while.
[01:33] <shjordan> http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9793/crappygv.png
[01:33] <shjordan> have a look paska
[01:35] <paska> i had that problem a while ago. i don't remember the solution atm. i'll try to remember
[01:35] <shjordan> hmm
[01:35] <shjordan> paska: do your best, and thank you.
[01:38] <paska> go to system settings->appearance->font settings and force fonts dpi to 96
[01:38] <paska> you can find system settings in the KDE menu on the bottom left
[01:40] <shjordan> paska: should i relog/reboot after that?
[01:41] <paska> not sure. if pressing 'apply' doesn't do the changes instantly, try to logout and back in
[01:41] <shjordan> ok
[01:41] <shjordan> brb
[01:47] <shjordan> paska: thank you, it worked BUT...
[01:48] <shjordan> that botton bar... is not extended as well, any solutions to that aesthetic problem?
[01:49] <paska> right click on desktop->unlock widgets and then right click on the taskbar, panel options->panel settings->height
[01:49] <paska> and when ur done adjusting the taskbar height, right click and press lock widgets
[01:51] <paska> oh, do you mean the taskbar does not fill the screen horizontally?
[01:51] <shjordan> yep
[01:51] <paska> then drag the sliders (with arrow on them) when in panel settings
[01:53] <paska> got it?
[02:14] <shjordan> omg omg omg
[02:15] <shjordan> i fu*ked up with my panel, and now it frozes...
[02:15] <shjordan> i can't even change it back to previus state
[02:16] <shjordan> could anyone try to help me?
[02:19] <shjordan> i mean my plasma-desktop became frozen
[02:19] <shjordan> is there a way to reset it?
[02:35] <shjordan> solved...
[02:35] <shjordan> but i cant hear anothing... =\
[02:35] <shjordan> can anyone help me solving this?
[03:01] <shjordan> damn
[03:01] <shjordan> i can't hear nothing
[03:01] <shjordan> nothing at all
[03:01] <shjordan> =\
[04:40] <westy> everytime I go to foo.com rekonq is not filling in my password, even though its in kwallet. Is this a bug or a setting that I am missing. It asks to store the password each time
[05:24] <sobczyk> anyone can tell me what is the average space that kmix takes up? I  htink it shouldn't take 700MB
[05:31] <mkpaa_> is there a repository for up-to-date kitchensync?
[07:28] <xyv> hello everyone
[07:28] <xyv> can I play drm protected musicon kubuntu
[07:28] <xyv> because vlc isnot able to play it
[07:30] <xyv> seems like I have figoure out myself
[07:39] <sresu_> Muon package manager gives an option to save markings of packages for installation/removal/purge which can be used for next session. This option appears when you mark a package for installation but quit without installing it. Can I save all the markings made for the packages and use it in cases of re-installation of OS?
[07:39] <sresu_> !info muon
[07:41]  * chinmaya is away: I'm busy
[07:44]  * chinmaya is back (gone 00:03:05)
[07:45]  * chinmaya is away: I'm busy
[07:59]  * chinmaya is back (gone 00:13:40)
[08:52] <tsimpson> chinmaya: please disable that away message
[09:21] <Tyr_Kyella2012> hello room
[09:21] <pYroman1ac> hello there
[09:22] <Tyr_Kyella2012> wonderin if anyone has come across "Lucidiot" lately
[10:34] <comawhite> Is there a way to remove the Qt3 based apps so I don't accidently install them or pull them in?
[10:43] <valorie> you mean you want to pin to Qt2 or something?
[10:44] <comawhite> valorie: naw, i just want the latest applications to show up only, no multiple version apps, etc
[10:48] <valorie> I see
[11:20] <zegenie> anyone in here got the CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+PageUp shortcut to display the fancy "show windows" effect?
[11:33] <sobczyk> is it normal for kmix to take 3GB of memory?
[11:33] <sobczyk> sobczyk   2945 37.5 75.7 8304072 2965544 ?     Rl   20:22   3:54 /usr/bin/kmix
[11:34] <comawhite> sobczyk: no
[11:35] <stevellion> anyone know if/why archive.ubuntu.com is down?  For me I'm unable to connect or ping.
[11:36] <bazhang> stevellion, it is; being worked on now.
[11:36] <sobczyk> is there a way to troubleshoot the cause of the leak?
[11:37] <sobczyk> it would be nice to be able to use the tray icon
[11:37] <stevellion> bazhang - thanks for the feedback :)
[11:48] <sobczyk> is there any alternative to kmix?
[12:40] <Arran> Hi there
[12:40] <Arran> Anybody some experience with an Epson Perfection V300 Photo?
[12:47] <rork> Arran: please ask your question, the problem might not be specific for that printer/scanner, do name the device though for it might be ;)
[12:48] <rork> sobczyk: maybe alsamixer but I don't know if that works with other audio systems then alsa
[12:53] <Arran> OK: the scanner is not detected at all, despite I have done all the necessary drivers installations. Epson Scanner V300
[13:02] <Yunife> Hi. I've installed Kubuntu 10.10 and I've problem with KDE. I use system normal and then KDE don't responds to mouse, but keyboard work corectly. Any idea? Bug?
[13:03] <rork> Arran: is it listed under `lsusb` ? and under `sane-find-scanner` ?
[13:05] <rork> Yunife: either that or it's not supported, it's broken or it's plugged in the wrong port. (Yes, I was able to fix a mouse by plugging it into another usb port)
[13:06] <Arran> it is listed under "lsusb", but not under "sane find scanner"
[13:08] <Yunife> rork: Mouse work, pointer's moving correctly, right click work, but left click stops work after few minutes
[13:12] <Yunife> rork: interface of KDE stops respond on left click after few minutes and also hover effect on buttons not work after :(
[13:15] <magIRCien> salut, y a quelqu'un ?
[13:15] <magIRCien> ^e^o << quelqu'un peu m'expliquer pourquoi moi clavier ne fonctinonepas avec konversation ?
[13:18] <rork> !fr | magIRCien
[13:18] <rork> Yunife: you're not the only one with that problem, maybe you can find a workaround here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575239
[13:19] <Shaan7> Hi, kubuntu 10.10 doesn't have packages for the required versin of libpolkit-dev for trunk (I know its optional, but I want it). Any PPAs with updated versions?
[13:26] <Velocifero28> test~<
[13:26] <rork> works~<
[13:27] <Velocifero28> awesome
[13:27] <rork> Arran: have you installed image scan? http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/faq/id000651.php
[13:28] <Yunife> rork: Thanks, I'm going to try it We hope It helps me
[13:35] <Arran> >rork. Yes, both files from avasys are installed.
[13:39] <ucenik09> Hello.
[13:39] <ucenik09> LoL
[13:45] <ucenik09> oxymoron
[13:49] <rork> Arran: have you seen this topic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1000341
[13:50] <sresu> Muon package manager gives an option to save markings of packages for installation/removal/purge which can be used for next session. This option appears when you mark a package for installation but quit without installing it. Can I save all the markings made for the packages and use it in cases of re-installation of OS?
[14:06] <Arran> >rork: no, but after the F-1 tr5aining seission (which is look at with one eye) I go after it. The page is loaded in Firefox.
[14:08] <James147> sresu: in maverick kpackagekit can export a list of installed packages
[14:09] <sresu> James147: How can I do that?
[14:10] <James147> sresu: in kpackagekit > Get and remove software tab > installed packages > export installed pckage list...
[14:14] <sresu> James147: The exporing works but importing doesn't recognise the .catalog files
[14:14] <sresu> exporting*
[14:15] <James147> sresu: :S never actually tried it before..
[14:16] <sresu> James147: Well, I was thinking of such options so that it can be helpful to install in cone click all packages due re-installation instead of seeing the list and manally installing one by one
[14:16] <sresu> Ahh.. my eyes are straining.. typo again
[14:17] <James147> sresu: yeah, i htink thats what those options are for... but I havnt actually tried them so dont know how well they work... didnt think they wouldent though ;
[14:17] <sresu> James147: Can you please try one there?
[14:17] <James147> sresu: installing stuff atm
[14:18] <sresu> James147: Ah-ok. Opening the catalog file by Kpk externally also doesn't help
[14:19] <sresu> I tried all this from new user
[14:19] <sresu> So that there is no conflict
[14:19] <sresu> Maybe, not sure
[14:19] <James147> sresu: ... not sure a new user would help with this as all packages are system wide... but what error does it give?
[14:20] <sresu> Yes
[14:21] <sresu> No error. It should first be able to recognise the *.catalog files it created. Its not recognising those in the folders in which its created after exporting
[14:22] <cuznt> is there a scripting channel?
[14:22] <James147> sresu: hmm, mine worked :S
[14:22] <James147> sresu: what version of kpackagekit?
[14:23] <James147> cuznt: might help if you say what your scripting for
[14:24] <sresu> James147: 0.6.2-0ubunutu1
[14:25] <James147> sresu: hmm, same here... are the files created by the export with the .catalog extension?
[14:25] <cuznt> i am learning basic scripting for konsole. but really basic. i am a gnubee
[14:25] <sresu> James147: Yes, that's what I said before :)
[14:25] <James147> cuznt: so bash scripting?
[14:26] <James147> cuznt: then try #bash
[14:26] <cuznt> ty
[14:27] <James147> sresu: not sure, its finding the .catalog files fine here :S
[14:28] <James147> sresu: try chaning the filter to *
[14:29] <James147> sresu: what version of kde are you using?
[14:29] <sresu> James147: Do you use Muon package manager?'
[14:29] <James147> no
[14:32] <sresu> James147: The latest kpk is close to software-centre(gnome) but muon is very much alike synaptic
[14:34] <James147> sresu: dont really need another packagemanager :) I tend to use aptitude anyway
[14:34] <sresu> Yeah
[14:34] <theannihilator> hi all
[14:34] <theannihilator> how do you static an ip in 10.04
[14:36] <James147> theannihilator: here is one way: http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319
[14:39] <ubuntu> hello guise
[14:40] <ubuntu> if i chose to install side by side. will it keep my other windows install and add the kxstudio install on that partition?
[14:40] <ubuntu> or does it only mean that it keeps the partitions the way they are but i lose the old data?
[14:43] <James147> ubuntu: kxstudio?
[14:43] <ubuntu> yes
[14:43] <ubuntu> i guess you linux people call that
[14:43] <ubuntu> a distro
[14:43] <ubuntu> or something.
[14:43] <ubuntu> along the lines.. i guess
[14:44] <James147> ubuntu: not heard of that distro before... and I cannot say what it will do, this is the support channel for kubuntu
[14:44] <James147> ubuntu: you might want to joib #kxstudio
[14:44] <ubuntu> so "side by side" is really that uncommon in linux glossary?
[14:44] <James147> join ^^
[14:44] <ubuntu> already in there
[14:44] <ubuntu> no one around atm i guess
[14:45] <James147> ubuntu: no, my guess is that it will resize you partition and install in the new free space, but i do not know the distro so i cannot say for sure
[14:55] <sresu> !info jovie
[14:59] <Arran> > rork: es, i did look at the site. I have actually done everything, but nothing helps. Quite disappointing, because it run OK under Ubuntu 09.10
[14:59] <theannihilator> i try to edit my interface file and i dont have anything that stats auto eth0....
[15:00] <theannihilator> what am i missing
[15:00] <Arran> And I did not use the on-year old drivers, but now downloads...
[15:00] <apparle> theannihilator: what are you trying to do?
[15:01] <Arran> Tschüss! I am leaving for now.
[15:01] <theannihilator> create a static ip
[15:01] <apparle> theannihilator: any problems with network manager?
[15:02] <apparle> theannihilator: why are you using the interfaces file?
[15:02] <theannihilator> i went through the kde network module and just created a new network connection but for somereason it displays the dns reversed of what i type in
[15:02] <theannihilator> cause that is how i am used to creating a static ip
[15:03] <apparle> theannihilator: that is alright, it is just displayed reverse, it is alright
[15:03] <ubuntu> thx james
[15:03] <ubuntu> apparently its non-destructive.. keeps the data
[15:03] <apparle> theannihilator: which kubuntu version?
[15:03] <ubuntu> so.
[15:03] <ubuntu> have a nice one. gonna try right now
[15:03] <ubuntu> :]
[15:03] <theannihilator> 10.04
[15:04] <theannihilator> brb
[15:05] <apparle> theannihilator: last time I used 10.04, my dns was also displayed reverse, otherwise it was working perfectly
[15:05] <theannihilator> ok
[15:05] <theannihilator> well that is all wubi installs lo
[15:05] <theannihilator> lol
[15:06] <apparle> theannihilator: why don't you try the latest 10.10
[15:07] <theannihilator> how can i install it using wubi?
[15:08] <theannihilator> i have windows installed on my computer and i dont feel like repartitioning it atm lol
[15:08] <eagles0513875> theannihilator: just run the wubi installer off the cd after you have booted on windows
[15:09] <theannihilator> lol
[15:09] <theannihilator> ok
[15:10] <apparle> theannihilator: you can install 10.10 on wubi
[15:10] <apparle> theannihilator: just get the latest CD or wubi exe
[15:10] <theannihilator> do i need to dl the i386 version since my windows is 32bit
[15:11] <theannihilator> or can will 64bit work
[15:11] <apparle> theannihilator: that depends on your processor
[15:11] <apparle> theannihilator: how much ram?
[15:11] <theannihilator> its a pentium D
[15:11] <theannihilator> 2gb
[15:11] <eagles0513875> 2gb of ram
[15:11] <eagles0513875> not to shabby for an early dualcore
[15:12] <theannihilator> it was free lol
[15:12] <apparle> eagles0513875: I have pentium d with 1.2g
[15:12] <theannihilator> 3ghz pd
[15:12] <apparle> theannihilator: stick to i386
[15:12] <eagles0513875> theannihilator: free is gd
[15:12] <theannihilator> k
[15:12] <eagles0513875> i wont mention my current desktop then
[15:12] <theannihilator> yea i got 2 80gb hdds 1 160gb hdd a pentium d 3.0ghz and 2 gigs of ram free
[15:12] <James147> :)
[15:13] <theannihilator> all i did was buy a 1tb hdd power supply and motherboard
[15:13] <apparle> theannihilator: there is no point installing 64bit unless you have enough RAM
[15:13] <theannihilator> which only cost about 250$us
[15:13] <eagles0513875> i have a 2tb hdd for linux 500gb for win 7
[15:13] <theannihilator> i do a media computer
[15:13] <eagles0513875> 8gb ddr2 800mhz and an intel core2 quad q9550 and an asus p5n-d motherboard
[15:13] <theannihilator> and one of the programs i have is windows bsed
[15:13] <apparle> eagles0513875: what do you put in 2.5tb?
[15:13] <theannihilator> nice
[15:13] <theannihilator> i need a 2tb hdd
[15:14] <apparle> eagles0513875: awesome comp man
[15:14] <theannihilator> my 1tb is already 89% full
[15:14] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:14] <eagles0513875> damn remove some of the dirty stuff
[15:14] <eagles0513875> anywho we going offtopic here
[15:14] <apparle> :D
[15:14] <theannihilator> not really
[15:14] <theannihilator> lol
[15:15] <apparle> theannihilator: just to warn, there are a few bugs in kubuntu 10.10
[15:15] <theannihilator> we discussing what a good media computer should be
[15:15] <theannihilator> ......
[15:15] <theannihilator> like what
[15:15] <Pici> And you can do that in #kubuntu-offtopic.  #kubuntu is for support.
[15:15] <theannihilator> lol ok
[15:16] <apparle> theannihilator: I had graphics problems, and then amarok can't save playlist and logout crashes graphics
[15:17] <theannihilator> .... well i would be using vlc anways
[15:17] <apparle> theannihilator: the first and last one, I have found a workaround, so I'm happy, but I didn't find solution to amarok
[15:17] <theannihilator> considering most of my files are in mkv form
[15:17] <apparle> theannihilator: which gpu?
[15:17] <theannihilator> i have a nvidia
[15:17] <theannihilator> 9400
[15:18] <apparle> theannihilator: then you are good to go, my friend's nvidia runs awesome
[15:18] <theannihilator> i prefer nvidia over ati because of reliability in linux and in most of my games i play
[15:18] <BluesKaj> theannihilator, the dragonplayer plays mkv without any problems on my setup
[15:19] <theannihilator> my only problems in using straight linux is orb
[15:19] <theannihilator> and verizon media center
[15:19] <apparle> theannihilator: I have pentium D 2.8 and 1.5gb ram and 1TB. does having a gfx card lot of difference? particularly games?
[15:19] <apparle> theannihilator: which mobo?
[15:19] <theannihilator> i have an nvida 6i
[15:19] <theannihilator> nforce
[15:20] <theannihilator> in that setup having a higher end card does make a big deal
[15:20] <theannihilator> especially in linux games
[15:20] <theannihilator> or even when playing game in wine
[15:20] <apparle> ok, I got to go. bye
[15:20] <theannihilator> bye
[15:21] <theannihilator> whats the big differences in 10.04 and 1010
[15:30] <gunsofbrixton> hi, just wondering, what software license is google voice under? is it free software?
[15:32] <theannihilator> i think
[15:36] <theannihilator> is there an iso program in kubunt
[15:36] <theannihilator> u
[15:42] <Darkie_DJ> which package do I remove to completely disable the netbook remix?
[15:42] <Darkie_DJ> for 10.10
[15:45] <vmplanet> pppp
[16:10] <fmerges> hi
[16:10] <fmerges> on ubuntu 10.10 im getting when im trying to execute a python qt app: python: /build/buildd/sip4-qt3-4.10.5/siplib/siplib.c:2600: sip_api_parse_result: Assertion `assign_helper != ((void *)0)' failed.   any idea?
[16:11] <KukuNut> can't find it but is 4.6 for 11.04?
[16:14] <KukuNut> never mind
[16:29] <theannihilator> how do you install 1010 using wubi when it says that you need to boot to the live cd?
[17:34] <theannihilator> back
[17:44] <dasKreech> theannihilator: How are you installing?
[17:50] <sresu> GPU is hanging rapidly. The screen hangs. How to fix it?
[18:09] <house_of_cain> does anyone know how I can turn on tab completion for yakuake?
[18:11] <yoyo> like double tabbing?
[18:11] <house_of_cain> yoyo:  so that I don't have to type the full name, I can type the first few letters and then hit tab
[18:12] <house_of_cain> yoyo:  having a command history that works would also be very helpful
[18:21] <tjingboem> i can throw anything in the Trash but when i look into it it is empty. Is this a bug?
[18:43] <kirillnext> what install, for samba in windows
[18:46] <theannihilator> hey how do you do wubi 1010
[18:46] <theannihilator> cause the cd just says to do a live cd and then install from ti
[18:46] <theannihilator> it*
[18:54] <sresu> Which application can help me trim audio files?
[19:11] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[19:12] <phoenix_firebrd> anyone able to send and receive files though bluedevil to nokia smart phones?
[19:16] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: mm maybe
[19:16] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: read this ... but remove kbluetooth from the string
[19:16] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: have you 10'.10?
[19:17] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: 10.10
[19:17] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: ok so read this but remove kbluetooth from the string sudo apt-get install stuff
[19:17] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: phoenix_firebrd: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/kubuntu-10-04-browse-your-phone-with-kde-with-bluetooth/
[19:18] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: ok
[19:25] <sresu> How to append two audio files?
[19:26] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: when i run the command "sdptool browse X" , i am getting an error "Failed to connect to SDP server on X: Connection timed out"
[19:26] <Peace-> sresu: ? which kind of ?
[19:26] <Peace-> wav ?
[19:26] <sresu> mp3
[19:27] <Peace-> sresu: sudo apt-get install kwave
[19:27] <sresu> Next?
[19:27] <phoenix_firebrd> audacity?
[19:27] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: audacity ? is agtk
[19:27] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: kwave is qt
[19:27] <phoenix_firebrd> good
[19:27] <Peace-> there is another ...
[19:28] <Peace-> http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/audio-editor-for-kde/
[19:28] <sresu> Peace-:  What backend kwave relies on? ffmepg?
[19:28] <Peace-> but i think kwave is the easier
[19:28] <Peace-> sresu: look at the link up
[19:28] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: forget that stuff
[19:28] <Peace-> phoenix_firebrd: just now try to use bluetooth
[19:29] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: ok
[19:29] <phoenix_firebrd> Peace-: i will try some
[19:31] <Peace-> who is of ottawa?
[19:31] <Peace-> xD
[19:31] <sresu> Peace-: Can it append audio files? Joining of audio files?
[19:31] <sresu> I don't see such options
[19:31] <Peace-> sresu: import...
[19:31] <Peace-> import....
[19:32] <Peace-> file ----->import
[19:32] <sresu> No I've installed kwave now and there is no such option of import under File
[19:32] <mrcreativity> are desktop effects inherently unstable
[19:32] <Peace-> omg
[19:32] <mrcreativity> or is it just my installation
[19:32] <Peace-> sresu: wait there is for sure import just check th estupid menu...
[19:32] <Peace-> -.-
[19:35] <sresu> http://imagebin.ca/view/q66QCqVl.html
[19:35] <sresu> Peace-: http://imagebin.ca/view/w2V2ciF0.html http://imagebin.ca/view/q66QCqVl.html
[19:37] <Peace-> sresu: then opne the first mp3
[19:37] <Peace-> sresu: select all the track
[19:37] <Peace-> press CTRL C
[19:38] <Peace-> now open the second mp3
[19:38] <Peace-> go whre you want press CTRL V
[19:38] <Peace-> should work
[19:38] <Peace-> of course you have not to close the first kwave with mp3 open
[19:39] <sresu> Peace-: Have you used kwave before?
[19:39] <Peace-> or consider to tinstall sresu sonic visualiser
[19:39] <Peace-> sresu: yea
[19:39] <Peace-> i have sent a bug even
[19:39] <sresu> sonic visualiser part of package manager, Peace-?
[19:40] <Peace-> sresu: sudo apt-get install sonic-visualiser
[19:40] <sresu> !info sonic-visualiser
[19:40] <Peace-> sresu: make sure the ouput devices is the default card
[19:41] <Peace-> o wow
[19:41] <sresu> !info sonic-visualizer
[19:41] <sresu> !info sonic-visualizer lucid
[19:41] <Peace-> sresu: http://www.sonicvisualiser.org/
[19:41] <sresu> !info sonic-visualiser lucid
[19:41] <Peace-> sresu: if you have not the package you can downoad
[19:42] <sresu> Peace-: And it can help me append two files, right?
[19:42] <Peace-> sresu: i mean it's a audio editor ...
[19:43] <Peace-> sresu: look at the screen
[19:43] <Peace-> ...
[19:43] <sresu> Does it append two audio files? You are suggesting me solution
[19:43] <sresu> Probably it doesn't
[19:43] <Peace-> sresu: ok
[19:43] <Peace-> i have used kwave..
[19:43] <Peace-> anyway..
[19:44] <Peace-> xD
[19:44] <Peace-> just right now
[19:44] <sresu> Peace-: Sonic Visualiser is a program for viewing and exploring audio data for semantic music analysis and annotation.
[19:45] <sresu> Peace-: Anyways, thanks. I'm still at the same place where I started asking about appending audio files.
[19:48] <sresu> Peace-: sox -m first_file second_file joined_file
[19:49] <Peace-> sresu: you can do it with an interface
[19:49] <Peace-> or with sox of course
[19:49] <Peace-> kwave is a sox interface
[19:49] <Peace-> like audacity
[19:49] <Peace-> ...
[19:49] <sresu> Oh.. so why didn't you say about sox before?
[19:49] <sresu> I'm very confortable with CLI than GUI
[19:49] <Peace-> well the most of people here wants what they do on windows
[19:49] <Peace-> so..
[19:50] <moth> hey guys how can i view hidden files in my home ? CTRL+H did not work
[19:50] <Peace-> but xD i am a scripter
[19:50] <sresu> Alt + .
[19:50] <sresu> moth: ^^
[19:50] <Peace-> sresu: i have done a audio looper with sox via bash
[19:50] <sresu> Peace-: Anyways, thanks..
[19:50] <moth> sresu, thank u
[19:50] <sresu> oh.. cool!
[19:50] <pepone> Hi, i have update to networkmanager-0.8.2  knetworkmanager-4.4.0_p20101012 and wifi connection stop to work any ideas
[19:51] <freinhar1> hi!
[19:51] <Peace-> sresu: http://cli-apps.org/content/show.php/lal+linux+audio+looper?content=102398
[19:51] <Peace-> xD
[19:51] <freinhar1> how can i make the devicenotifier ignore the first partition of a ipod which he can't mount anyways?
[19:51] <sresu> Peace-: Ah-ok
[19:52] <Peace-> sresu: are you interested to test a script to automount video on kdenlive?
[19:52] <BluesKaj> pepone, which network wifi hardware do you have on your pc/laptop ?
[19:54] <sresu> Peace-:  default sox in ubuntu repos has no mp3 support, how to enable it?
[19:55] <Peace-> sresu: sudo apt-get install libsox-fmt-all
[19:55] <sresu> Sure?
[19:55] <Peace-> sresu: medibuntu open
[19:55] <Peace-> sresu: sure
[19:55] <theannihilator> 1010 will not update 1004
[19:55] <theannihilator> :(
[19:56] <sresu> Peace-: $ sox -m Finaljpwhiting.mp3 trimAE.mp3 Final.mp3
[19:56] <sresu> sox FAIL formats: can't open output file `Final.mp3': SoX was compiled without MP3 encoding support
[19:56] <pepone> BluesKaj: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 the driver is up and the interface is detected in Knetworkmanager
[19:57] <Peace-> sresu: medibuntu ?
[19:57] <Peace-> lame ?
[19:57] <sresu> huh?
[19:57] <sresu> lame?
[19:57] <Peace-> sresu: libsox-fmt-all should enable that stuff
[19:57] <freinhar1> does maverick use devicekit?
[19:58] <sresu> Peace-: That`s the one although I thought it was libsox-fmt-mp3
[19:58] <Peace-> well i use all because i need every formats
[19:58] <BluesKaj> !BCM | pepone
[19:58] <Peace-> xD
[19:58] <sresu> kk
[19:59] <pepone> BluesKaj: sorry i m in the wrong channel
[19:59] <Peace-> sresu: maybe you should try to encode it into wav
[19:59] <pepone> BluesKaj: i m looking for gentoo :)
[20:00] <sresu> Peace-: Umm.. that will consume more time.. lemme see
[20:00] <sresu> And i know how to do it
[20:00] <Peace-> sresu: anyway kwae open a new window...
[20:00] <Peace-> kwae
[20:00] <Peace-> sigh
[20:00] <sresu> kwae?
[20:01] <Peace-> sresu: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpeg-0-videopreviw11
[20:02] <Peace-> kwave
[20:02] <BluesKaj> pepone, good luck with that :)
[20:03] <Peace-> BluesKaj: xD
[20:03] <BluesKaj> trying to install gentoo is worse than wearing a hair shirt IMO
[20:03] <Peace-> hahahaha
[20:06] <sresu> BluesKaj: Gentoo
[20:07] <sresu> Yeah, but I still like it more since it was first distro
[20:07] <BluesKaj>  sresu ?
[20:08] <sresu> BluesKaj: trying to install gentoo is worse than wearing a hair shirt IMO
[20:08] <Peace-> BluesKaj: did you know dolphin can show the disk usage ?
[20:08] <sresu> Peace-: No it cannot, filelight works better
[20:09] <Peace-> sresu: xD http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/diskusage.jpeg?w=600&h=375
[20:09] <Peace-> yes it can
[20:09] <Peace-> yes we can :D
[20:09] <sresu> Peace-: Encoding to .wav helped but the final file was a mixture. I need appending as in one after other
[20:10] <BluesKaj> sresu, the first linux distro was slackware
[20:10] <sresu> Ahh that,, that i knew of.. its already ticked. I though like filelight
[20:10] <Peace-> sresu: sigh i used.. kwave... any way.. lett me see the audio looper i can' remember well sox stuff
[20:10] <sresu> Oh... sorry my first distro BluesKaj :)
[20:10] <BluesKaj> oh
[20:11] <Peace-> sresu: sox stuf1 stuf2 OUT.WAV
[20:11] <sresu> stuff1 and stuff2 w/o extension?
[20:13] <Peace-> sresu: sox input1.wav input2.wav input3.wav output.wav
[20:13] <Peace-> omg :(
[20:13] <Peace-> sresu: google--------> merge wave with sox
[20:13] <Peace-> xD
[20:14] <sresu> BluesKaj: Gentoo had its advantages - no releases to worry about the upgrade process was continuous and incremental But it used to break a lot more often,a nd did require a lot of effort and time to keep unning smoothly especially if you upgraded often.That's partly why I switched to ubuntu - I didn't want to spend as much time maintaining my linux in grad school as I did in undergrad
[20:15] <sresu> Peace-: No, that doesn't help either. Same output file
[20:15] <Peace-> nowadays peopel want system that works
[20:15] <sresu> That merges but I want to append
[20:17] <Peace-> sresu: i can't understand what you want do then... append to me it's  stuff1+stuff2
[20:17] <sresu> contuously but not mixture
[20:17] <sresu> continously*
[20:17] <Peace-> sresu: here it works fine tha command ..
[20:17] <sresu> What its doing is that both files are playing together in the o/p file not one after other
[20:17] <Peace-> i have used for audio looper
[20:18] <BluesKaj> sresu, there are advantages to ubuntu that outrank the tedious install and maintain methods required by gentoo , however I can't disqualify it completely since I'm just speaking about it's reputation and not from personal experience
[20:19] <Peace-> BluesKaj: like every damned distro if you upgrade often... you break often it
[20:19] <sresu> BluesKaj: Ah-ok That was only my view as you mentioned Gentoo. Nothing more :)
[20:19] <Peace-> and who has gentoo..
[20:19] <Peace-> wants break
[20:19] <sresu> I've it still Peace-
[20:19] <sresu> as secondary OS after Ubuntu
[20:19] <Peace-> sresu: after you have lost your soul understanding a lot of stuff
[20:19] <Peace-> i guess
[20:19] <Peace-> :)
[20:19] <sresu> Haha
[20:20] <sresu> Nothing of the sort
[20:20] <sresu> Rather It did speed up my understanding of linux
[20:21] <sresu> In those days one is completely by himself to fix an error, no IRC, no forums, very very few people using linux and the documentation was what I hated the most
[20:22] <sresu> Ah..I should stop on Gentoo now, its becoming offtopic. Sorry
[20:22] <westy> Rekonq is not using kwallet. This is extremely annoying. The point of storing my passwords is so that it will use them. What am I doing wrong?
[20:23] <skafti> hei
[20:23] <Peace-> westy: ppa version?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> isn't kwave depracated ?
[20:23] <Peace-> BluesKaj: kwave?
[20:23] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i am here working with it
[20:23] <westy> Peace-: no its the defualt that comes with Kubuntu
[20:23] <Peace-> 10.04
[20:23] <skafti> cant update kubuntu what should i do ?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> yeah, i thought it was an old kde3 app
[20:23] <Peace-> westy: please add the ppa version i guess it's better or install another browser
[20:24] <Peace-> westy: lucid or maverick?
[20:24] <BluesKaj> Peace-, westy, i thought it was an old kde3 app
[20:24] <Peace-> BluesKaj: no it's qt4
[20:25] <BluesKaj> as opposed to kde4
[20:25] <Peace-> BluesKaj: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpeg-0-videopreviw11
[20:25] <BluesKaj> well, if it still works i'll reinstall it
[20:26] <Peace-> BluesKaj: works for sure man
[20:26] <BluesKaj> cool
[20:26] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have insert it on my special page
[20:27] <Peace-> BluesKaj: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/what-you-should-wan-do-on-kubuntu-10-04/
[20:27] <westy> Peace-: maverick
[20:27] <westy> Peace-: and i really like it, its offering to save the passwords, but doesnt use them
[20:27] <sresu> Peace-: No, its not working still. How do you think can be wrong?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> too bad there isn't a windows version for my linux phobic friends who have several media sticks full of live recordings that need editing for crowd noise and chatter etc
[20:28] <russo_turisto> hi
[20:28] <Peace-> westy: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/yoann-laissus/rekonq-ppa/ubuntu maverick main
[20:28] <Peace-> westy: open kpackagekit and add that repository
[20:28] <russo_turisto> wht my alt-tab does not work?
[20:28] <russo_turisto> WTF?
[20:28] <russo_turisto> warum?
[20:28] <Peace-> russo_turisto: .. please don't use that wt*
[20:28] <russo_turisto> Peace-  )))
[20:28] <russo_turisto> Peace-  you are funny
[20:28] <Peace-> russo_turisto: what alt tab
[20:29] <sresu> !ohmy | russo_turisto
[20:29] <russo_turisto> Peace-  ALT-TAB combination
[20:29] <sresu> Its not about being funny
[20:30] <BluesKaj> alt-tab switches apps on a given desktop
[20:30] <russo_turisto> YES
[20:30] <westy> Peace-: i really dont like adding ppa's unless absolutly necessary. but you dont think there is a setting I am missing eh?
[20:30] <russo_turisto> BUT IN MY CASE IT DOES NOT WORK EVER!!!
[20:31] <russo_turisto> WHY???
[20:31] <russo_turisto> I CHANGED MY "COLATE"  or somthing like this
[20:31] <russo_turisto> I did not remember how it is in english
[20:32] <westy> russo_turisto: alt-tab to use the switcher?
[20:32] <russo_turisto> westy  YES
[20:32] <sresu> russo_turisto: Are your packages fully up to date?
[20:32] <russo_turisto> I press this buttons and nothing happenes
[20:32] <russo_turisto> I use 8.04
[20:33] <russo_turisto> But 1 month ago all worked!
[20:33] <sresu> russo_turisto:  Do you use compiz or kwin or any desktop effect?
[20:33] <westy> did you check that its set? go to system settings, windowbehaviour
[20:33] <russo_turisto> Guys, I have not time to upgrade system to 10!!!   so I use 8.04
[20:33] <russo_turisto> I use kubuntu 8.04
[20:34] <westy> using kde at 8.04 is a LONG time ago for KDE
[20:34] <russo_turisto> I want run through windows when I press alt-tab
[20:34] <westy> russo_turisto: is it still kde 3.5?
[20:34] <sresu> russo_turisto:  Desktop effects -> General Effect for window switching
[20:34] <russo_turisto> ????
[20:34] <russo_turisto> where?
[20:34] <sresu> KDE version?>
[20:35] <russo_turisto> may be
[20:35] <russo_turisto> I do not know
[20:35] <sresu> Check the version please
[20:35] <russo_turisto> how?
[20:35] <russo_turisto> what a hava nagiva
[20:35] <westy> open konq, and click on about and click on about - kde
[20:36] <xoma> op))) russkiy)
[20:36] <sresu> Either ways, that's where you used to configure it before KDE SC 4.4
[20:36] <russo_turisto> 3.5.10 (thanks for please ))  )
[20:36] <russo_turisto> xoma  ??
[20:36] <russo_turisto> xoma anton?
[20:37] <sresu> russo_turisto: Worked? Desktop effects -> General Effect for window switching
[20:37] <xoma> toje linux nedavno ustnovil?)
[20:37] <russo_turisto> Desktop effects  where is it?
[20:37] <russo_turisto> xoma blat... ya davno uzhe.... 2 goda
[20:37] <sresu> Search in System Settings
[20:37] <xoma> o) togda pomigi s vainom)
[20:38] <xoma> pomogi*
[20:38] <russo_turisto> System_Settings->  what next?
[20:39] <theannihilator> what is the difference between debian and kubuntu?
[20:39] <xoma> ne) menya ne anton zovut) xomjakov v inete mnogo))))
[20:39] <russo_turisto> xoma  blat
[20:39] <sresu> Hey Peace- -m, --combine mix        Mix multiple input files (instead of concatenating) in sox -m Finaljpwhiting.mp3 trimAE.mp3 Final.mp3
[20:39] <russo_turisto> блятство ...  ну ладно
[20:39] <sresu> whoa
[20:40] <xoma> ы) короче дуй в системные настройки, там дальше увидишь если локализация русская
[20:40] <russo_turisto> sresu so?
[20:40] <sresu> Peace-: That is to be replaced my --combine concatenate
[20:40] <russo_turisto> Desktop effects -> General Effect for window switching  .... it is not exist
[20:40] <sresu> russo_turisto: Did you find Desktop effects in System settings?
[20:40] <xoma> тада обнови kde)))
[20:40] <russo_turisto> sresu I found Desktop only!
[20:41] <russo_turisto> xoma я 8.04  юзаю
[20:41] <xoma> у мя наприемер кде 4.х стоит... там есть настройки для переключения окон.....
[20:41] <russo_turisto> я ж сказал - не хочу обновлять
[20:42] <xoma> тогда обьясни в чём плюсы 8.04 относительно 10.10, мб тоже перелезу
[20:43] <xoma> у меня кстати есть ощущение что эти америкосы все дружно обновляют операционку по первому свисту.. так что техподдержку по более старым версиям надо искать на русских форумах
[20:45] <russo_turisto> бестолковвая поддержка
[20:45] <russo_turisto> не могут написать как поменять альт-таб
[20:45] <xoma> это россия.....
[20:45] <BluesKaj> !ru | russo_turisto ,xoma
[20:46] <xoma> тож вариант...
[20:47] <BluesKaj> xoma, please stop !
[20:47] <xoma> ok
[20:47] <BluesKaj> you want russian then there's a channel for that
[20:48] <xoma> i can speak english, but im so lazy... and i think that amerikans know more that russian and they are more helpful)
[20:48] <ubuntu_> hi all, i need some help.. I have windows and kubuntu installed, and my MBR was overwriten. I tried to recover it with grub-install from live CD, but now i just get into grub shell on startup, it doesnt offer boot options... how can i fix this_
[20:49] <russo_turisto> bye... pindosy
[20:49] <russo_turisto> пока пиндосы
[20:49] <xoma> jjosh
[20:53] <rork> ubuntu_: boot into linux manually and do a `sudo update-grub` one sec, I'll get you a howto for the first part
[20:53] <ubuntu_> rork: ok, thanks
[20:54] <rork> ubuntu_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Using%20CLI%20to%20Boot
[20:55] <ubuntu_> rork: its using grub, not grub2, does this make any difference
[20:56] <BluesKaj> xoma, not all here are americans
[20:56] <house_of_cain> anyone know how I can adjust the terminal settings in yakuake.  It currently does not have tab auto completion enabled, and the up arrow only prints ^[[A
[20:56] <ubuntu_> rork: i am running a liveCD at the moment, maybe i can just re-install grub or something?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> !grub2
[20:57] <rork> ubuntu_: I thought you've allready tried that, if you reboot and you get to the command it probably means it can't find the config file
[20:57] <theannihilator> whats the diff between deb and kub
[20:58] <BluesKaj> !debian
[20:58] <ubuntu_> rork: yes, it gets to the command prompt.. what can i do now? can i fix it from within live cD_-
[20:59] <theannihilator> but y cant i use debain repose in ubuntu
[20:59] <theannihilator> lol
[20:59] <theannihilator> i am debating on whether to use fedora or kubuntu on my laptop
[20:59] <theannihilator> the bigest debate is gaming
[20:59] <BluesKaj> theannihilator, nope, and debian uses a different permission system for installing and using sudo
[20:59] <Peace-> gaming?
[21:00] <Peace-> omg
[21:00] <theannihilator> i was joking about the deb repos on kub
[21:00] <rork> ubuntu_: you may try: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[21:00] <Peace-> BluesKaj: night
[21:00] <house_of_cain> can anyone suggest an application like yakuake that will allow for tab completion of commands?
[21:00] <BluesKaj> gawd, buy an xbox or something
[21:01] <ubuntu_> rork: ok, trying
[21:01] <theannihilator> i have a ps3 a ps2 a wii and windows but i would like to have some linux gamesi n the mix
[21:01] <russo_turisto> key board shortcats ..... SO  I SOLVED MY PROBLEM MYSELF
[21:01] <russo_turisto> I am clever man
[21:01] <russo_turisto> I am not jewish anyway I am clever
[21:03] <BluesKaj> theannihilator, no matter . ome ppl wouldn't know whether you were joking or not
[21:03] <ubuntu_> rork: ok, i need to restart. hopefully it should work....
[21:03] <BluesKaj> some
[21:03] <theannihilator> itried doing it once with kubuntu 9.10 ibelive
[21:03] <theannihilator> and it did work
[21:04] <theannihilator> but then crashed 3 weeks later when i tried updating
[21:04] <BluesKaj> !religion | russo_turisto
[21:05] <russo_turisto> BluesKaj !!!  ?  I have not said nothing BAD....  I control my voice
[21:06] <theannihilator> BluesKaj: does that mean i cannot talk about the dwarfs or little human looking people called hobbits?
[21:06] <BluesKaj> russo_turisto, just a reminder of the COC here
[21:06] <russo_turisto> BluesKaj  thanks for attantion
[21:06] <xoma> blueskaj but russian users are too lazy to answer some questions, so that is why i connected to english support
[21:06] <dasKreech> theannihilator: I don't think there is much difference in the games offered for Fedora and Ubuntu
[21:07] <BluesKaj> theannihilator, no you can't , because it's offtopic :)
[21:07] <russo_turisto> BluesKaj xoma  )))))  it is not true
[21:07] <dasKreech> russo_turisto: what was the problem?
[21:07] <rork> theannihilator: last thing I heard about gaming distrowars is that every distro is fine for gaming, I only know (k)ubuntu and if you decide to use it have a look at playdeb
[21:07] <russo_turisto> I use english ... becase there is more people
[21:08] <dasKreech> russo_turisto:  :)
[21:08] <russo_turisto> dasKreech  I fix my problem already...
[21:08] <dasKreech> russo_turisto: I saw that I didn't know what the problem was
[21:08] <russo_turisto> dasKreech  *fixED
[21:09] <russo_turisto> dasKreech  problem was in alt-tab combination of buttons
[21:09] <theannihilator> i know they are but some distros have more games precompiled then others and i am to lazy to compile so the least i have to install the better
[21:09] <dasKreech> ah ok :)
[21:09] <theannihilator> lol
[21:09] <russo_turisto> how many people use windows in USA???
[21:09] <russo_turisto> WMD
[21:09] <dasKreech> theannihilator: again I'd be surprised if you didn't find a game for either set. and if you do you can convert from Fedora's RPM to Deb and vice versa
[21:09] <russo_turisto> (wind. must di*)
[21:09] <tsimpson> russo_turisto: that's offtopic for this channel
[21:10] <dasKreech> russo_turisto: #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:10] <dasKreech> can talk in there :)
[21:10] <theannihilator> also which better for a htpc primarily used to play open anime files (mkv) and can be used as a server
[21:10] <russo_turisto> tsimpson   ok ... what is "all_users - linux_users = X"
[21:10] <theannihilator> myth or (k)ubunutu
[21:11] <dasKreech> hmm might be myth but I've not set up either for that
[21:11] <russo_turisto> ALL_USERD - LINUX_USERS = X,   X - ?
[21:11] <dasKreech>  There is a Media center plasma setup for Kubuntu
[21:11] <tsimpson> theannihilator: myth is designed to be a media centre, so probably myth
[21:11] <tsimpson> russo_turisto: stop that
[21:11] <russo_turisto> tsimpson ok
[21:11] <russo_turisto> exit
[21:12] <russo_turisto> WT*
[21:12] <tsimpson> ...
[21:12] <theannihilator> but tsimpson can it also be used as a server?
[21:13] <tsimpson> theannihilator: all a server is, is a system running the appropriate services, any system can be a server. so yes :)
[21:14] <theannihilator> well tsimpson not true not all os's can be a server
[21:14] <tsimpson> theannihilator: anything that can listen on a TCP/UDP port can be, and I don't know an OS that can't do that
[21:15] <theannihilator> windows can listen but does not always host
[21:15] <tsimpson> what exactly do you mean by "server"?
[21:15] <theannihilator> windows xp could not host a website that well without having to deccomboulate it
[21:15] <tsimpson> theannihilator: it can, IIS runs on XP
[21:16] <tsimpson> as does apache
[21:16] <theannihilator> i am not going to argue i tried hosting an html website with iis and it failed and this was when i was coding websites for my school
[21:17] <theannihilator> ended up finding a nice little piece of software some created to do that
[21:18] <tsimpson> regardless, as long as it can listen for remote connections, any OS can be a "server". depending on what exactly you are serving
[21:20] <theannihilator> also tsimpson i was asking cause to also have an os be a server it has to be reliable in utilizing the services and i was sure if mythbuntu which was geared towards htpc would be stable hosting a website with an ftpserver and irc server
[21:20] <theannihilator> cause i know kubuntu is stable enough to host the services but can be a pain to work with for a media center  computer....:(
[21:21] <tsimpson> theannihilator: as long as the system has the resources needed to do all that, sure
[21:21] <tsimpson> both share the same base system, just with different UI and default applications
[21:21] <theannihilator> ok
[21:23] <theannihilator> how do i install kde from the terminal?
[21:23] <theannihilator> sudo apt-get install ?
[21:25] <tsimpson> install kubuntu-desktop to get a default Kubuntu install
[21:25] <theannihilator> thx
[21:26] <theannihilator> i am using vmware and it installed everything but the gui lol
[21:26] <tsimpson> there are also kde-minimal and kde-standard packages, which may have a smaller footprint, but don't include some default packages
[21:32] <dasKreech> theannihilator: It's still a server. crappy one but hey that's what you get when all your resume says is "I do windows"
[21:32] <theannihilator> lol
[21:33] <osinet> hello guys... I'm newbie in Linux Kubuntu.. and I have a problem with the proxy and update the repository
[21:33] <osinet> I have the message when i try to update my repository  No address associated with hostname
[21:33] <dasKreech> osinet: are you using kpackagekit?
[21:33] <osinet> yes
[21:34] <osinet> but i have the same problem when i use commands
[21:34] <dasKreech> hm ok
[21:34] <osinet> why :(
[21:35] <dasKreech> your normal http works on the proxy?
[21:35] <dasKreech> I think there is an apt-proxy package
[21:37] <osinet> dasKreech, yes my http works well
[21:37] <dasKreech> ok look at apt-proxy then I think that may be what yo uare looking for
[21:42] <osinet> dasKreech, it doesn'y work
[21:56] <osinet> hello someone know how can I configure the proxy to use apt-get?
[21:58] <jhutchins_lt> What's kubuntu using for wifi management these days?
[22:08] <jmichaelx> jhutchins_lt: it is using network-manager, same as gnome... but using a plasma systray widget to interact with it
[22:13] <jhutchins_lt> jmichaelx: Yeah, it's the interface that concerns me, not the technical backend.
[22:13] <jhutchins_lt> In 3.5 the network manager made it pretty easy to find a list of available networks and would connect if you clicked on one.
[22:14] <jhutchins_lt> With this version, you have to discover, then go to another part of the applet to manually configure it.
[22:14] <jhutchins_lt> Demonstrably not intuitive enough for a non-technical person to get on line in her hotel room.
[22:15] <jmichaelx> jhutchins_lt: what version of kubuntu and kde are you using?
[22:15] <jhutchins_lt> Not on kubuntu, that's kindof why I'm asking what kubuntu has now
[22:15] <jmichaelx> jhutchins_lt: i felt the same way until 10.10 and kde4.5.x
[22:17] <jmichaelx> jhutchins_lt: well, what you are saying certainly applied to lucid and before, but the plasma widget that works with network-manager has seen some real improvements lately
[22:18] <jmichaelx> jhutchins_lt: i very much prefer KDE to gnome personally, but i have always been (and still am) hesitant to recommend kubuntu to new(er) users... it just does not get the attention in the ubuntu world that gnome does
[22:19] <jmichaelx> jhutchins_lt: btw, it's always been easy to get rid of the network management plasma widget, and just use gnome's nm-applet in KDE...  that is what i used to do
[22:24] <ademos> Kubuntu Forums refuse to let me register ---- the system continually tells me that I I didn't answer the verification questions correctly, but they don't tell me WHICH question is wrong. Any ideas? ---- Here's what I entered: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4742/kubunturegistration.png
[22:25] <jhutchins_lt> Sorry, phonecall, but it appears this is 4.4, so basically I'm hoping to hear that it gets better, and it sounds like it does.
[22:26] <jhutchins_lt> There's a non-plasma knetworkmanager, but it didn't work when I tried it, and there's wicd, but that doesn't see my network card on either laptop.
[22:27] <BajK_> Which package do I need to install for the partition manager in kubuntu 10.10? It is present in the final but not in the RC which I have (though completely updated) on my external hdd. But the Partition manager is not present in systemsettings
[22:27] <jhutchins_lt> Ok, so now I have to see if we can bring the 4.5 plasma widget into the main 4.4 body of the release, at least I know where I'm going with it.
[22:27] <jhutchins_lt> I should probably throw a kubutu partition on here to test it.
[22:28] <jhutchins_lt> (Had serious issues with Intel video last time I tried it.)
[22:32] <theannihilator> how do i remove plasma from kubuntu?
[22:34] <ademos> theannihilator: You would have to use KDE3 (before Plasma was started) or another window manager (like Gnome) but it wouldn't be KDE4 if you didn't use Plasma
[22:35] <theannihilator> lol that would be fun then
[22:35] <theannihilator> trying to get kde 3 on kubuntu
[22:35] <jhutchins_lt> I wonder if 4.5 widgets are compatible with 4.4
[22:36] <theannihilator> #fedora
[22:36] <theannihilator> oops wrong server
[22:36] <ademos> Quick hard disk question: If I'm getting a checksum error from smartcontrol (hard disk monitoring software) what does that mean?
[22:44] <Alarm> hello, i just upgraded to maverick. unfortunately my gtk applications like firefox and xchat do not look like all the kde windows. Where the Menus are (File, Edit, etc) the colour is different than the rest of the window
[22:46] <BajK_> theannihilator: why would someone want to remove plasma? o.O
[22:46] <BajK_> Alarm: The only thing I could imagine - which I do - is setting QtCurve as design for both GTK and QT applications
[22:46] <BajK_> (it is a highly customizable theme)
[22:46] <Alarm> i just found something appmenu-gtk.
[22:47] <BajK_> okay
[22:47] <Alarm> yes. gtk-engines was on prior releases
[22:47] <BajK_> uff I never really use gtk apps
[22:47] <Alarm> well i use firefox, and xchat
[22:48] <BajK_> hm, so I use chromium and quassel^^
[22:48] <Alarm> well i use xchat over 5-6 years now, so  i got used to it .
[23:05] <theannihilator> lxde vs xfce
[23:05] <theannihilator> which is better?
[23:07] <aljie> #diariosigloxxi
[23:08] <theannihilator> ?
[23:18] <djustice> !ask
[23:19] <djustice> roxy_: poke
[23:22] <theannihilator> huh? djustice?
[23:26] <roxy_> how can i find the qt-docs?
[23:28] <tsimpson> roxy_: in the packages qt4-doc and qt4-doc-html, or online at http://doc.qt.nokia.com/
[23:31] <dasKreech> !best | theannihilator
[23:32] <jhutchins_lt> Isn't there something like debian's popcon?
[23:32] <tsimpson> http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[23:33] <djustice> roxy_: be more vocal...
[23:33] <djustice> "how might i go about figuring out the file list for the qt4-doc package?"
[23:33] <roxy_> -_-
[23:33] <roxy_> leave my noobish alone...
[23:33] <djustice> roxy_: *huggles*
[23:34] <djustice> tsimpson: thx btw ;)
[23:34] <theannihilator> dasKreech: i was asking for opnions
[23:34] <theannihilator> cause i dont see a difference
[23:34] <theannihilator> so i was wanting to know what the difference was
[23:35] <bazhang> theannihilator, try #ubuntu-bots for polling
[23:35] <djustice> roxy_: dpkg -L qt4-doc
[23:35] <djustice> btw.
[23:36] <tsimpson> roxy_: qt4-doc documentation can be viewed in qt assistant (from qt4-dev-tools), or install qt4-doc-html and point your browser at file:///usr/share/qt4/doc/html/index.html
[23:37] <djustice> tsimpson: yep. i was trying to show her how to find where a pkg gets installed. and how to ask such a question on irc.
[23:38] <roxy_> :O
[23:38] <roxy_> but thanks at the same time >.>