[00:00] <mbergamo> phillw: i haven't tried this yet, i'll give it a shot in a minute, thank you
[00:06] <Timo_> szczur: are you a member of the ubt?
[00:07] <szczur> Timo_, nope
[00:07] <Timo_> aight
[00:07] <szczur> i'll be someday :>
[00:08] <szczur> what about you?
[00:08] <szczur> are you a padawan? :)
[00:08] <Timo_> yes
[00:08] <Timo_> I guess :P
[01:13] <stlsaint> HELP
[01:17] <phillw> stlsaint: how?
[01:18] <EpicCyndaquil> phillw, wrong channel? what are you taking about? :P
[01:18] <phillw> EpicCyndaquil: this is the support channel :D
[01:19] <EpicCyndaquil> I know, I know, was messing with you :P
[01:19] <phillw> EpicCyndaquil: it's just that this one gets logged so people can search it, the offtopic area specifically does not get logged.
[01:19] <EpicCyndaquil> so should I go straight to install from unetbootin?
[01:20] <EpicCyndaquil> gotcha, fair enough
[01:20] <phillw> use the 'iso' button and tell unetbootin where the iso is
[01:21] <EpicCyndaquil> I deem this motherboard buggy
[01:21] <EpicCyndaquil> no, I was in unetbootin on the USB on the computer :P
[01:21] <EpicCyndaquil> I PRESS ENTER AND IT DOES NOTHING
[01:21] <EpicCyndaquil> FFFFFFFUUUUUUU
[01:22] <phillw> EpicCyndaquil: Do you remember me saying RTFM? http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[01:22] <stlsaint> phillw: im sure i can figure this out on my own but i want to get it from the experts...whats the best way to get fluxbox up and running on lubuntu?
[01:22] <phillw> stlsaint: you'd to ask someone like bioterror or ask on the ml.
[01:23] <stlsaint> bioterror: HELP
[01:23] <stlsaint> phillw: again i have been using multisessions for some time
[01:23] <EpicCyndaquil> "these ISO files will not work as-is"
[01:23] <stlsaint> phillw: i figure it would be a good teaching lesson for our new members?
[01:23] <phillw> stlsaint: he's in bed, do not forget bioterror has been ill.
[01:23] <stlsaint> phillw: and i dont want to "hack" my way to getting it done :D
[01:23] <stlsaint> ooooohhhhhhh
[01:24] <EpicCyndaquil> I seriously blame this motherboard
[01:24] <EpicCyndaquil> GAH
[01:24] <EpicCyndaquil> something is wrong with this thing
[01:24] <EpicCyndaquil> sometimes things boot, sometimes they don't, keep in mind I try multiple times touching nothing but my power button
[01:24] <phillw> EpicCyndaquil: I'm running out of ideas, I'm not to sure what to suggest next :(
[01:25] <EpicCyndaquil> throw it against the wall? :D
[01:25] <phillw> did the cd self test as okay?
[01:25] <EpicCyndaquil> yes
[01:25] <phillw> try the alternate install option.
[01:26] <EpicCyndaquil> where?
[01:26] <EpicCyndaquil> the minimal you mean? and is that a different ISO?
[01:26] <phillw> when the cd boots up, it is listed as alternate / text based installtion in the menu where you see the self test option.
[01:27] <EpicCyndaquil> I don't see that O_o
[01:27] <phillw> EpicCyndaquil: what version did you download?
[01:27] <EpicCyndaquil> let me try the install one more time
[01:27] <EpicCyndaquil> the torrent
[01:27] <EpicCyndaquil> 10.10 torrent
[01:27] <phillw> 10.10 or 10.04 ?
[01:27] <phillw> 10.10 has alternate on it.
[01:28] <EpicCyndaquil> maybe I'm going blind from being sick of this -_-
[01:28] <EpicCyndaquil> it's not lubuntu's fault, it's the computer
[01:28] <phillw> EpicCyndaquil: sleep is always a good healer of frustration :)
[01:28] <EpicCyndaquil> very true
[01:28] <EpicCyndaquil> this might be the last time I work with a used mobo
[01:28] <EpicCyndaquil> they always give me nothing but trouble
[01:31] <hblount> hi. is there a way to mount an image in wine so it is recognized by game in wine?
[01:31] <EpicCyndaquil> got a bunch of buffer I/O, squashfs, and phy0 errors
[01:32] <EpicCyndaquil> regardless, it still seems to be starting
[01:32] <phillw> hblount: I have no idea, but http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313 is the wine section of the main forum area, I'd suggest asking there.
[01:33] <hblount> phillw: ok thanks
[01:33] <EpicCyndaquil> "failed to run /usr/bin/ubiquity as user root" when I go to install...
[01:35] <EpicCyndaquil> now it seems like my dvd drive has given up on lubuntu
[01:35] <EpicCyndaquil> perhaps it's time for me to do the same for now
[01:35] <EpicCyndaquil> WAIT IT'S WORKING xD
[01:35] <phillw> EpicCyndaquil: I'd suggest cleaning the cd drive lens. The burn and read leds are different, "If you can get hold of one - Clean the CD drive with a CD-Drive cleansing CD, burning an ISO CD requires far greater precision than burning, say, a music CD. ( just type in cd lens cleaner into your favourite search engine, they can be bought for about 3 USD / 1 GBP)"
[01:36] <EpicCyndaquil> I know that's not the issue, it's the computer reading it
[01:36] <EpicCyndaquil> and the optical drive reading it is nearly new
[01:37] <EpicCyndaquil> good suggestion, but I'm 110% sure that's not the issue
[01:52] <EpicCyndaquil> Installer crashed ;_;
[01:54] <mbergamo> phillw: I tried that wired network configuration, but there was no difference :/. I'm outrageously stumped on this, I don't know why I'm struggling so hard. I'll make a forum post and make it outrageously specific.
[01:54] <mbergamo> phillw: and if i get it to work maybe i'll make a wiki specific for setting up my broadcom bcmxx on Lubuntu without any internet connection.
[01:55] <EpicCyndaquil> I think lubuntu installed but failed to set up the bootloader, can I check this, and if so, how do you suggest a fix?
[01:55] <phillw> mbergamo: I'm stumped, I had no problems with broadcom in lubuntu; it simply showed up in hardware drivers :(
[01:56] <phillw> EpicCyndaquil: without internet connection, no. with internet connection yes :)
[01:57] <EpicCyndaquil> phillw, wired ethernet?
[01:57] <EpicCyndaquil> if so, time to move to the next room ;P
[02:37] <mbergamo> phillw: when i click on additional drivers it gives a prompt, "Downloading package indexes failed, please check your network status. Most drivers will not be available." And then it says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system".
[02:40] <phillw> mbergamo: pass. :(
[02:40] <mbergamo> phillw: bah!
[06:42] <bioterror> damn
[06:42] <bioterror> I figured out how to start programs without decorations
[06:42] <bioterror> I wonder who asked it
[10:08] <Goodgame> bioterror, you found me on ubuntuforums :D
[10:08] <bioterror> Goodgame, did you like my posting?
[10:09] <Goodgame> bioterror, I don't undestand when you explain how to launch them but I think I've understood the part for the position (not tried yet, just woken up, will try this afternoon)
[10:09] <bioterror> you make yourself a file
[10:09] <bioterror> application.desktop
[10:09] <bioterror> and put that kind of information there
[10:09] <bioterror> it's an example file of my conky.desktop
[10:10] <bioterror> which launches conky on my desktop
[10:10] <Goodgame> can you explain me each line please?
[10:10] <Goodgame> we can write whatever we want in "comment" don't we?
[10:11] <bioterror> yes
[10:11] <Goodgame> exec is the same as we enter in A-F2 ?
[10:11] <bioterror> yes
[10:12] <Goodgame> What does the 4 lasts lines mean?
[10:12] <bioterror> just random stuff for the lxde menu ;)
[10:12] <Goodgame> so, all the time terminal=false?
[10:12] <bioterror> yes
[10:12] <Goodgame> (except maybe when I wanna launch the terminal :-°)
[10:13] <bioterror> it means you dont want to launch that in terminal
[10:13] <bioterror> yes
[10:13] <Goodgame> everytime type=application?
[10:13] <bioterror> something like that
[10:13] <Goodgame> "something like that"?
[10:15] <Goodgame> what does it mean?
[10:15] <bioterror> yeah
[10:15] <bioterror> put application in there
[10:15] <Goodgame> :-°
[10:15] <Goodgame> and what is categories?
[10:16] <bioterror> leave blank, as I said it's for the lxde menu
[10:16] <bioterror> you're not going to put it in there
[10:16] <Goodgame> and I just copy the last line everytime?
[10:17] <bioterror> what+
[10:17] <Goodgame> Categories=
[10:17] <Goodgame> OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE;LXDE;
[10:17] <Goodgame> sorry
[10:17] <Goodgame> OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE;LXDE;
[10:18] <bioterror> yeah
[10:19] <Goodgame> ok thanks a lot
[10:19] <Goodgame> gotta go
[10:19] <Goodgame> gonna try later
[10:19] <Goodgame> bye
[14:21] <Goodgame> bioterror, in your answer you explain how I can explain where I want my windows, but not how to specify their sizes. is there a way,
[14:22] <bioterror> oh
[14:22] <bioterror> you're so demanding
[14:22] <Goodgame> :D
[14:23] <Goodgame> their's no interet to put windows in specific places if they don't have the right size (they could cross each other)
[14:26] <bioterror> nope, that's not supported in openbox, I think
[14:27] <Goodgame> weird
[14:27] <Goodgame> thanks a lot
[14:27] <bioterror> well
[14:27] <bioterror> yeah
[14:31] <Goodgame> bioterror, I've got a last question, when I configure my autostart, can I chose on which desktop the apps open?
[15:00] <NativeAngels> hello
[15:00] <NativeAngels> how do a get a command prompt again
[15:01] <mark76> Alt F2?
[15:01] <NativeAngels> nothing
[15:02] <mark76> Do you have the LX panel?
[15:02] <NativeAngels> ?
[15:02] <mark76> Are you using LXDE?
[15:02] <NativeAngels> i thinkso
[15:02] <NativeAngels> all i have is run and logout
[15:02] <mark76> Is there a bar at the bottom with things on?
[15:03] <NativeAngels> yes
[15:03] <NativeAngels> with a swallow like icon on the toolbar
[15:03] <mark76> Is there something on the far left that looks like a bird?
[15:03] <NativeAngels> yes
[15:03] <mark76> Click on it. Do you see an option called Run?
[15:03] <NativeAngels> yes
[15:03] <mark76> Click on that
[15:04] <NativeAngels> i did and nothing happened
[15:04] <mark76> Weird
[15:04] <mark76> Have you uninstalled anything lately?
[15:04] <NativeAngels> all that happened was the toolbar dissapeared and thats it
[15:04] <NativeAngels> nothing
[15:04] <mark76> Okay
[15:04] <NativeAngels> this is the alternate text install
[15:04] <mark76> Ah
[15:05] <mark76> You should install gmrun
[15:05] <NativeAngels> how do i do that
[15:05] <mark76> Go to Synaptic
[15:05] <NativeAngels> i dont even have that option
[15:05] <mark76> Can you run a terminal?
[15:06] <NativeAngels> no
[15:06] <mark76> Then you're screwed
[15:06] <NativeAngels> it seems like whoever made the alternate version
[15:06] <NativeAngels> has messed up
[15:06] <mark76> Yes it does
[15:07] <NativeAngels> not very helpful
[15:07] <mark76> What have you got in the Accessories menu
[15:07] <NativeAngels> ive gone to menu:://applications/ and theres nothing
[15:08] <Goodgame> is this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp the only lubuntu documentation?
[15:08] <mark76> So there's nothing in the menu?
[15:08] <skrite> hey all, is nvidia still the video card to buy? newegg has lots of bundles with ATI but i have always had an easy time with getting nvidia working.
[15:09] <NativeAngels> no
[15:09] <NativeAngels> all there is run and logout
[15:09] <mark76> I'd reinstall
[15:09] <mark76> Do you have an icon anywhere to open the file manager?
[15:10] <NativeAngels> yes
[15:10] <mark76> Okay. Open it
[15:11] <NativeAngels> strange
[15:11] <mark76> In the sidebar is there an Applications option?
[15:11] <NativeAngels> its not even doing anything
[15:11] <mark76> How are you talking to me?
[15:11] <NativeAngels> on a windows laptop
[15:11] <NativeAngels> mirc
[15:11] <mark76> Oh right
[15:12] <mark76> I think you need to download the full install CD
[15:12] <NativeAngels> i tried 10.10 but it hung
[15:12] <mark76> What about 10.04?
[15:13] <NativeAngels> i will try it
[15:13] <NativeAngels> do you have a link
[15:14] <mark76> No, but you should be able to get it from the Ubuntu website
[15:15] <bioterror> Goodgame, u define that in a same place where the position
[15:15] <mark76> http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1004-now-available-download
[15:18] <NativeAngels> thanks
[15:18] <Goodgame> bioterror, I just add <desktop>2</desktop> ?
[15:18] <bioterror> yes
[15:19] <Goodgame> bioterror, you can speak french don't you?
[15:19] <bioterror> merde
[15:19] <bioterror> :D
[15:19] <Goodgame> cause I've got a problem with rhythmbox, it's about a french tutorial
[15:19] <Goodgame> I must be mistaking, sorry
[15:19] <bioterror> ahh
[15:19] <bioterror> easy solution
[15:20] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install moc && mocp
[15:20] <Goodgame> but I can explain it to you, you may know the solution
[15:20] <Goodgame> :D
[15:20] <Goodgame> moc ubuntu
[15:20] <Goodgame> how
[15:20] <Goodgame> no
[15:20] <Goodgame> don't wanna use the console here
[15:28] <bioterror> hmm
[15:33] <bioterror> gilir
[15:33] <bioterror> Goodgame, needs some help in french :D
[15:38] <gilir> bioterror, there is no other french-speaking here ? :)
[15:38] <bioterror> nope
[15:38] <bioterror> atleast i dont  know
[15:39] <Timo_> Goodgame should learn English, then it's way easier to get help :D
[15:39] <bioterror> :D
[15:39] <bioterror> haha
[15:40] <bioterror> luv u guys <3 :D
[15:40] <bioterror> or to use google translate :D
[15:40] <JoeMaverickSett> Google translate FTW!
[15:40] <gilir> or you can learn french to help more people ;)
[15:41] <Goodgame> Timo_, actually I'm quite opperative, but the fact is that the rhythmbox french documentation is better than the english one...
[15:41] <bioterror> he needs to watch few luc besson movie
[15:41] <bioterror> nikita and couple of taxi
[15:41] <JoeMaverickSett> Lol!
[15:42] <bioterror> or get a girl friend and watch amelie for the thousand time
[15:42] <bioterror> haha
[15:42] <bioterror> every chick luvs that movie
[15:42] <JoeMaverickSett> Damn it, bioterror! :D
[15:42] <bioterror> laters, gotta leave the train
[15:43] <Goodgame> bioterror, if I want to launch other programms than conky (tallking about the exemple in your post) is it still this file I've gotta edit cat /home/lubuntu-user/.config/autostart/conky.desktop?
[15:44] <Goodgame> or it will be cat /home/lubuntu-user/.config/autostart/chromium for exemple?
[15:49] <bioterror> yes
[15:49] <bioterror> chromium.desktop
[15:49] <bioterror> urxvt.desktop
[15:51] <Goodgame> bioterror, ok I will write what I will change, post it on the topic and you will tell me if it's ok
[15:52] <bioterror> i bet you can do it
[15:52] <Goodgame> ok, will post it tonight :)
[15:52] <bioterror> not really a rocket science
[16:45] <Goodgame> oh yeah another crap on my lubuntu
[16:47] <Goodgame> I've added a third desktop and it disapears when I reboot
[16:47] <head_victim> os prober
[16:47] <Goodgame> ?
[16:48] <head_victim> Hang on I'll find a link
[16:48] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat#Dual%20boot%20with%20Lubuntu%2010.10
[16:48] <head_victim> That tells you how to do the workaround, they're working on a full fix
[16:49] <Goodgame> oh sorry head_victim you've misunderstood me, you know, once you're logged, their are two virtual desktops on lubuntu?
[16:50] <head_victim> Ooohh
[16:50] <Goodgame> I've added a third one, but it has disapeared
[16:50] <head_victim> Sorry mate, completely off base.
[16:50] <head_victim> I'll have another look
[16:56] <head_victim> Sorry mate, no idea, I'd suggest hanging in here in the hopes someone more expereienced than I arrives or try the mailing list
[16:56] <Goodgame> ok i'm gonna wait
[16:57] <Goodgame> shouldn't have installed lubuntu
[16:57] <Goodgame> it's too new
[16:57] <head_victim> It's been great for me, saved me buying a new pc
[16:57] <Goodgame> my pc is quite powerful
[16:58] <head_victim> Are there any other problems you're having then or is that the only one for now?
[16:59] <Goodgame> some graphical problems (rare) some problems with rhythmbox, and unused buttons on my mouse
[17:02] <head_victim> Ah k I use exaile for my music and all the buttons I have work for what I need (I use 5 from memory)
[17:10] <Goodgame> head_victim, logitech?
[17:10] <head_victim> Goodgame: yeah, mx5500 desktop
[17:10] <head_victim> But the limiting factor for me is I use a dvi/usb kvm
[17:11] <Goodgame> crap my M705 doesn't work mor than "right click" "left click" and "scroll" I have 4 unused buttons
[17:11] <head_victim> Ah k I use the forward and back buttons in the web browser
[17:12] <head_victim> I"d test it in more places but my lubuntu pc is in parts atm, getting a cpu upgrade.
[17:12] <Goodgame> head_victim, it works in the web brother but not in the file manager for exemple
[17:12] <head_victim> Going from a 2.4 celeron to a 3.0 intel p4 (yay, HT)
[17:12] <head_victim> Goodgame: Ah ok I'll check it out when I have it together again
[17:15] <head_victim> Goodgame: I have to head to bed it's 3am here but fingers crossed someone with more information than I will come along.
[17:15] <Goodgame> head_victim, ya in china?
[17:15] <head_victim> Brisbane, Australia.
[17:16] <Goodgame> ok ok
[17:16] <Goodgame> head_victim, you'll explain to me next time?
[17:16] <head_victim> I'll do my best
[17:17] <Goodgame> thanls
[17:17] <Goodgame> have a good night
[22:14] <mark76> Oh that's weird. I have Sylpheed and XChat both set to put an icon in the systray and neither of them have one in it
[22:15] <mark76> Hmm. Seems that Cairo Compmgr has something to do with it
[23:57] <ravenreturns> Anybody out there fancy helping a persistance issue im having with a pendrive?