=== nisshh_linux is now known as nisshh === nisshh is now known as Guest76709 === Guest76709 is now known as nisshh [03:58] hey facebook will be rednecking it up in my neck of the woods with a data center :-) -http://www.wral.com/business/story/8608615/ [04:11] oh, ugh, wiki theme change [04:11] shock, fear, anger, disgust.... [04:11] (and exaggeration :p) [04:15] hehe [04:34] Wmhaha, I love hunting the old questions:http://askubuntu.com/questions/8301/how-to-send-all-notes-off-alsa-midi-event [04:44] nigelb, im annoyed about that, there are still bugs in the new theme [04:44] nisshh: I agree. Me too. [04:44] I ran the new theme for some time, got frustrated and went back to the old [04:45] nigelb, yeah, one big one is that unordered lists dont get indented, even when it is specified in the syntax [04:45] makes it very unreadable [04:45] nigelb: What theme is this? [04:45] doctormo, the new light theme for the ubuntu wiki [04:46] doctormo, its now the default one [04:46] nisshh: oh, yuck :/ [04:46] I thought the wiki was going to be shot out of a cannon, defiled and then used as the foundation for the most audacious tennis court? [04:46] nigelb, yeah, i hope these bugs get fixed soon :| [04:47] doctormo, your point being? [04:47] The wiki looks exactly the same to me. [04:48] hmm I am still seeing the old theme [04:48] doctormo, it will look the same to you, your probably logged in and have the default old theme set in your prefs, whereas non-logged-in users would see it [04:48] akgraner: logout :) [04:48] DOH! [04:48] haha [04:49] Looks nice, a little bit too much top padding, but otherwise ok. [04:49] newsletter is hard to read now :-( [04:49] doctormo, look at a page with unordered lists on it, with indentations, looks terrible [04:49] What is it with every website now having the (c) Canonical Ltd, it really bugs me that community work is being claimed by Canonical. [04:50] Even the bloody spread ubuntu website which has nothing to do with Canonical has the same damn thing on it. [04:50] doctormo, yeah, i think they are just saying "this is part of canonical" [04:51] nisshh: That's not how you say it, and besides, most of the websites aren't. They're community websites hosted graciously by Canonical. [04:51] doctormo, point to you :) [04:52] If I thought for a second that Canonical managers considered the community to be a special needs group of Canonical ownership I'd ship out to Debian. I need to see Canonical acting responsibly with it's power. [04:52] i see [04:52] (the fact that I'm still here means I see this as a few oversights) ;-) [04:52] yeah [04:53] doctormo isn't it b/c the theme is owned and developed by Canonical and community is granted a very liberal use license for use on their sites? (could be wrong) [04:54] this was there is some legal protection for the theme, the colors, etc [04:54] akgraner: Could be, but check out http://ground-control.org where at the bottom we specify different copyright owners for parts. [04:55] * nisshh goes and watches some episodes of Supernatural [04:55] is there anything stopping other Ubuntu sites from doing that? [04:56] whoever admins those sites can add that easily enough right? [04:56] you just add it to the footer and life is sunshine and roses :-) [04:57] akgraner: Yep, just a case of adding the right stuff there and it's all golden. [05:13] Hmm, I need the question http://askubuntu.com/questions/11815/how-to-install-wacom-bamboo-pen to be voted up since it's important information. [05:50] * doctormo wonders if jcastro does ask ubuntu in his sleep. [05:51] doctormo, i suspect he might :) [06:11] doctormo: He sleep answers [06:16] ha [06:21] doctormo: Just like sleep walk :p [06:25] nigelb, sleep-n-ask syndrome i believe its called :) [06:26] lol [06:50] where are the horsemen today :) [07:23] Good morning ara :) [07:23] morning nigelb, all [08:11] morning ubuntians [08:11] nigelb: hey :) [08:13] hola kim0 :) [08:14] o/ [08:17] anyone use the wiki here? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2010-November/005103.html [08:28] AlanBell: we noticed... [08:29] AlanBell: oh, nice diging \o/ [08:30] heh, 'so this is me starting to push for it'..... AlanBell you rock \o/ [08:35] morning dpm :) [08:36] hey nigelb :) [08:37] today should be compiz-unity in a ppa day \o/ [08:39] AlanBell, wooooo! [08:40] :) [08:40] good morning! [08:40] hey dholbach [08:40] hi nisshh [08:42] morning dholbach [08:43] hey nigelb [08:47] dholbach: dpm morning fellas [08:47] o/ [08:47] good morning kim0!, morgen dholbach! [08:47] heya kim, hi dpm [09:10] morning all! [09:10] hola popey [09:30] aloha [09:32] morning randa, czajkowski :) [09:35] hey czajkowski [09:36] happy friday, nigelb dholbach czajkowski dpm ara popey [09:36] hola randa [09:37] Friday... 3.5 hours more :D [09:38] happy Friday, randa! [09:43] hey randa, hey ara, hey czajkowski, popey and everyone else! [09:43] how are we all this friday morning [09:44] \o/ [09:44] randa: *hugs* thanks package was received [09:44] perfect czajkowski :) [09:44] czajkowski: petra will be the contact for shipit soon [09:44] but we will announce this [09:45] okie dokie [09:45] thanks [09:50] * popey hugs randa [09:50] I don't have any packages, but you deserve a massive hug anyway [10:01] ;) [10:40] I agree [10:40] * nigelb hugs randa too :) [10:40] thanks guys! [10:41] * randa feels loved today [10:47] heh :) [11:15] git status [11:15] aaaargh! [11:20] czajkowski: I need help :) [11:20] czajkowski: Can I PM you? [11:22] sure [11:24] \o/ My laptop is fixed! yay [11:29] yay [11:41] nisshh: ping [11:43] alan@bishop:~$ grep -ic hugs\ dholbach irclogs/freenode/#ubuntu-community-team.log [11:43] 138 [11:43] alan@bishop:~$ grep -ic dholbach\ hugs irclogs/freenode/#ubuntu-community-team.log [11:43] 427 [11:43] * popey hugs dholbach [11:43] lol [11:43] * czajkowski hugs dholbach [11:43] * nigelb hugs dholbach too! [11:45] * dholbach hugs you all back :-) [11:45] I'm curious to see how many times I've hugged :p [11:46] 90 [11:46] :D [11:47] popey: do you have the video of that bot you ran on release day? [11:47] * nigelb forgets its name [11:48] piespy [11:49] yeah, turned out not to be particularly interesting to watch [11:50] http://blip.tv/file/4285537 [12:06] duanedesign, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :) [12:06] * dholbach hugs duanedesign [12:07] oooh [12:07] duanedesign: [12:07] _ _ _ ____ ______ __ ____ ___ ____ _____ _ _ ____ _ __ __ [12:07] | | | | / \ | _ \| _ \ \ / / | __ )_ _| _ \_ _| | | | _ \ / \\ \ / / [12:07] | |_| | / _ \ | |_) | |_) \ V / | _ \| || |_) || | | |_| | | | |/ _ \\ V / [12:07] | _ |/ ___ \| __/| __/ | | | |_) | || _ < | | | _ | |_| / ___ \| | [12:08] |_| |_/_/ \_\_| |_| |_| |____/___|_| \_\|_| |_| |_|____/_/ \_\_| [12:08] [12:08] \O/ [12:08] hrm, that was supposed to go into a PM :( [12:11] paultag: around? [12:11] bit early for him [12:11] czajkowski: he's ping me back when comes on :D [12:11] duanedesign: happy birthday :) [12:11] *he'll [12:24] nigelb: :) [12:24] * nigelb hugs duanedesign [12:24] * duanedesign hugs nigelb [12:25] thank you dholbach Pendulum and everyone else for the happy birthday wishes [12:25] :-) [12:27] nigelb, sorry, i was eating dinner, whats up? [12:28] nisshh: you wanted to have your loco do events in classroom rite? [12:28] did you see the loco day announcement? [12:28] nigelb, yep [12:29] nisshh: want to sign up ? :) [12:29] nigelb, no i didnt see the announcement [12:29] i dunno [12:29] my loco hasnt had a meeting since [12:29] so i havent had a chance to discuss it [12:29] nigelb, is there a deadline for signing up? [12:30] nigelb, and where is the announcement [12:30] nisshh: about 1 our before the session would a nice deadline :p [12:30] s/our/hour [12:30] nisshh: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-classroom/2010-November/000243.html [12:30] lol, ok [12:31] nigelb, ah yeah, i saw that somewhere thismorning [12:31] * nigelb bops nisshh on the head ;) [12:32] huh? [12:32] s/bops/whacks (for clarity) [12:33] no, why did you bop me on the head?.... [12:33] lol [12:33] "I didn't see it" "wait, I saw that somewhere" :p [12:33] Anyone in the community nifty with node.js? ;) [12:34] I just saw some awesome stuff done with it :D [12:34] nigelb, lol, no i thought you meant some sort of official announcement that i didnt see, i wasnt expecting an ML announcement [12:34] http://transloadit.com/ => javascript in client and server side; how awesome! [12:37] nigelb, my next loco meeting is on the 14th december, ill try and get it brought forward, i really want to do the loco day, unfortunately, our loco is very, very inactive [12:38] nisshh: nice time to wake them up :) [12:38] nigelb, hehe, for my loco its between 9pm and 12pm right now :) [12:52] nigelb, what sort of topics are being covered at loco day? [12:54] nisshh: something loco-ish is the plan [12:54] Its left to the loco's themselves [12:55] nigelb, something loco-ish? [12:55] so I dont know why they dont use their own loco channel.. [12:55] nisshh: well, something like "how to have successful meetups?" [12:56] nisshh: but the thing is we'd be using the classroom team and more locos can share their ideas [12:56] nigelb, oh ok, well our loco cant do that, we got unapproved for being inefficient :) [12:56] nisshh: heh, just take a pick of topics :) [12:56] yeah [12:57] we'll help you out once we get past the "get more people to do sessions!!" stage [12:57] ok [12:57] lol [12:57] nigelb, ill talk to others in the loco and ill let you know around the 15th of december or so (after our next loco meeting) [12:57] \o/ [12:58] nisshh: um, that's kinda a few days before the planned date :( [12:58] nisshh: you know just doing things in your own channel, or not on irc like a going for a coffee is just as good if not better to get discussions going [12:58] nigelb, yeah, i realise, im trying to move the meeting forward atleast a week, dunno if i can though :) [12:59] nisshh: getting some folks on irc is just not possible, either due to work or choice, and can cut people off from wanting to get involved so dont worry [12:59] czajkowski, yeah, thats what im doing now [12:59] nisshh: good stuff and I think you'll find you'll get more response doing that kinda thing [13:00] czajkowski, our loco has a problem with meetups, since we are so few and spread out a long way (australian loco) [13:00] we very rarely meetup physically [13:00] nisshh: right but that can happen in any loco tnbh [13:00] not just larger counteries tbh [13:00] nisshh: or getting discussions on email is a good idea also [13:01] pick a random topic and say lets chat about this or somethng [13:01] czajkowski, yeah, i just sent a mail to our loco's ML [13:01] great [13:13] nigelb, czajkowski, i should have a definitive answer for you by the 10th of December [13:14] nisshh: that works :) [13:14] nisshh: that event has nothing to do with me [13:14] czajkowski, i realised right after i said that :) [13:14] nigelb, cool === jorge__ is now known as jcastro [13:44] hi! [13:44] jcastro: ello there [13:47] MOO! [13:48] does anyone remember which sessions this was decided upon : he Leadership Code Of Conduct was agreed to play a formal role in leadership in Ubuntu, and the translations community will be porting it to DocBook so it can be translated by the community. [13:48] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDSProceedings/N/Final [13:50] nigelb, is there a list of sessions that are already planned? i need some inspiration :) [13:56] czajkowski: I thought that there were seperate named sessions for each. [13:57] I knoew it was to be translated [13:57] just didnt see the outcome of it [13:57] :) [14:01] czajkowski, all the notes are here (for the one on translations - I don't know about the other part): https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-translations-translatable-coc - There are a few actions unassigned, and it would be awesome if someone would lead that effort, as I'm not sure I'll have time to drive that blueprint, that's why the assignee part is still open. btw, the docbook conversion was already done [14:01] , and dholbach also submitted the branch to the CC for review [14:01] dpm, erm [14:01] dpm, I did? [14:01] dpm: coolio [14:01] dpm, for now I just wanted to merge my few changes into your branch :) [14:02] I thought you'd take it from there :) [14:02] dpm: if you want you can assign it to me [14:02] as it kinda falls on my thingy of poking the lovely folks in LP about getting it signed [14:02] dholbach, ah, sorry, I saw a merge proposal for the cc, I must have read it wrongly [14:02] so I don't mind chasing up on thay [14:02] czajkowski, a-we-some. Thanks! [14:03] np just assign me and next week in my own place I'll get to tackle all the backlog of stuff [14:03] :) [14:04] czajkowski, done. We'll have to chase jono next week to approve the bp [14:05] grand [14:05] dholbach, that was not an attempt to load more work on you. If I had tried that, I would have been more subtle :P [14:05] sounds like a plan [14:06] dpm, yeah, sure [14:06] . o O { nice try :-P } [14:06] :-) [14:07] I say we just action item paultag to do all action items, he'll create seperate bugs and all for them and then get cracking like there is no tomorrow and have them all done [14:12] +1 [14:14] *sigh* my loco is dying :( [14:20] nisshh: sup [14:22] czajkowski, hey, dont mind me, im just sad that my loco is dying slowly, there was a giant split down the middle earlier this year that caused a lot of grief and led to the loco being un approved by the council :( [14:22] this oz ? [14:22] czajkowski, yeah, australia [14:23] tell ya what pop into channel for a moment and we can talk [14:23] czajkowski, oh wait, your on the council arent you? [14:24] nisshh: see pm :) [14:24] nisshh: bingo :) [14:24] hehe, i remember now [14:25] nisshh: anyways see pm and join the channel [14:25] czajkowski, i havent got a pm from you... [14:25] you do in a window have an invite into a channel [14:25] ah, my status window :) [14:53] nisshh, my loco too [14:53] :( [14:53] that sucks [14:53] daker, which loco are you in? [14:53] ubuntu-ma [14:54] ma? [14:54] Morocoo [14:54] ah [14:54] daker, if it aint dead yet, theres still a chance :) [14:55] nisshh, a very slow death [14:56] ah now [14:56] it can't be that bad [14:56] it will die in 09/2011 [14:56] revive it [14:56] daker, yeah [14:56] cjohnston, how ? [14:56] cpr [14:56] lol [14:57] daker: ok what do you think is wrong with your loco at present ? [14:57] i have done the impossible [14:58] czajkowski, 1) they think the ML is GOOGLE [14:58] some teams do use Google for their ML [14:58] it's what ever folks get used to [15:02] sometimes i feel that in a loop, each time we have to explain that the ML is for Ubuntu problems (installation, upgrade, events) [15:05] czajkowski, the last problem is we have lost 350CD, the Customs think that we are going to sell them [15:06] czajkowski, so canonical should pay a big amount if we want to recover the package [15:07] daker: other Locos have had that issue, and canonical have paid the customs fees [15:08] popey, how much ? [15:08] does it matter? [15:08] * popey points daker at randa [15:08] mmm?? hello [15:08] popey, i know she knows that [15:08] daker hello :) [15:08] hi randa [15:09] daker: well it's not just for problems at all, can be social also, like arranging to meet up, or did you see this, what do you thijnk about this [15:09] lol, Keybuk rocks haha [15:09] london office has no windows...LOL [15:09] daker, what's your Loco team? [15:10] randa, ubuntu-ma (Morocco) [15:10] argghh I know, Customs wanted o charge EUR 1,400 unfortunately that is not reasonable for Canonical [15:11] popey, see [15:11] daker: ok, well that is unfortunate [15:11] we sent letters, one of your guys even went to talk to a politician I think to ask for help [15:12] but nothing worked [15:12] can you get them pressed locally? [15:12] Im happy to send small amounts to different people... [15:13] czajkowski, yeah we have organized a Global Jam we have got ~10 personnes [15:14] randa, do you mean small packages? [15:14] daker: that's still a good turn out [15:15] daker: I could send 20 Cds to 10 different people.... [15:15] or something like that [15:15] I cant think of any other soluction [15:15] *solution [15:19] randa, even with 20 CDs we will have problems :) [15:19] oh really [15:19] wow [15:20] daker, we dont have any problem anywhere else :( why do you have this problem in your country, do you know? [15:20] the highest we pay is 200 USD [15:21] but canonical is happy to pay that... unfortunately 1400 EUR is a lot of money [15:21] aye it is [15:21] randa, we have a solution [15:24] randa, we have to contact Universities so they will send letters to explain that the CDs are not for sales [15:24] ok daker, i did send lettersto the custom office explaining that they were promotional only and not for sale [15:25] but they still refused it but maybe the university is more lucky [15:26] we will see [15:27] keep me posted daker if there is anything we can do, I will be happy to help [15:27] randa, if nothing happens the package will be destroyed ? [15:28] yes daker, but we need to try, we have lot f Cds anyway... it is a shame I know but we should give it a go [15:28] randa, sure [15:42] dpm, dinda: I just had a look at the newest version of sphinx (http://sphinx.pocoo.org) and it seems to support making html, singlehtml, epub, pdf, latex and gettext translations [15:43] I'll try packaging the hg snapshot of it in a ppa [15:43] dholbach: nice [15:47] why is sphinx familiar.... [15:47] ah, yes, python documentation, [15:58] czajkowski, we can forget that idea with coming to an agreement with the other group in the au loco [15:59] why [15:59] czajkowski, hmm, maybe not here, can you invite me to the council channel again please [15:59] sure [16:00] thanks [16:00] done [16:21] kim0, did you send the email to the IS (Cloud portal) ? [16:22] daker: indeed, they are being too busy as usual [16:22] daker: jono is going to have a call with them then to push harder [16:23] kim0, ok [16:23] morning all [16:23] Technoviking: morning [16:24] jono: are you planning on blogging/tweeting when the PPA lands? [16:28] kim0, btw when you have time can you write a what we need [16:29] daker: can you explain a bit [16:30] Is it ok to have your personal blog use the Ubuntu font? [16:32] kim0, found it http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CloudPortalSpecs [16:33] Technoviking: sure [16:35] dholbach, Harvest rocks! [16:36] Technoviking: Per the design team style guidelines, if you're going to specify the Ubuntu font in CSS, you should use the following so that it gracefully falls back to something nice: font-family: 'Ubuntubeta','Ubuntu','Bitstream Vera Sans','DejaVu Sans', Tahoma, sans-serif; [16:36] nisshh, thanks - it wasn't just my doing, but yeah - I think it'll be useful :) [16:37] dholbach, yeah, your just the only person i know who had anything to do with it :) [16:41] :) [16:42] jcastro: Are there plans to be able to shrink the unity sidebar, or should I file a wishlist bug [16:43] not sure about shrink [16:43] file a wishlist pls [16:44] jcastro: will do after I install from ppa:) [16:46] alright my friends - I call it a day [16:46] have a great weekend [16:46] dholbach: you too [16:46] dholbach: nigt :) [16:47] take care :) [16:48] Technoviking: are you on natty? [16:49] jcastro: not yet [16:52] jcastro: have a spare box I can upgrade [16:56] do they make natty dailies CD yet, or should I just upgrade from maverick [17:02] they do [17:03] the link is in the natty forum someplace [17:06] czajkowski, hey now :P [17:07] paultag: ello [17:08] kim0, videos will be hosted in a hosting site ? like youtube [17:08] ello :) [17:16] * czajkowski offers jono a #locoteams tag [17:27] czajkowski, what for? [17:27] Severed Fifth tweets? [17:27] :) [17:27] no for ubuntu cloud stuff [17:27] czajkowski, erm, what has that got to do with locoteams? [17:27] they might like to know about it. just a thought [17:33] I'd be willing to bet nobody looks at the #locoteams hashtag [17:33] popey: czajkowski does [17:35] popey: lotta non english ones do [17:36] some funky stuff tweeted [17:46] Technoviking: you might want to hide yourplace/forums as it just got mentioned in #ubuntu [17:46] its appearing on google search index and people are getting confused [17:46] The LoCo Directory also uses the hashtag for its frontpage. [17:47] it does [17:47] http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23locoteams [17:57] have a nice week-end [17:59] ok, running natty on baremetal [18:01] popey: bullocks, that explain why my web host is dragging [18:08] I wish IS would get me a test box for the forums [18:13] I'd stick an .htaccess on it [18:19] hey paultag, are you still hiding in the south? [18:20] doctormo, south? [18:20] doctormo, Ohio? Ohio is north [18:20] ohio is south right? [18:20] doctormo, it touches Canada [18:20] d'oh [18:20] hence south ;-) [18:20] Well south of something I guess :) [18:20] * doctormo continues to digg merrily. [18:20] doctormo, I'll be heading to Boston soonish [18:23] great [18:33] Technoviking: see my twitters [18:33] PPA is ready [18:45] jcastro: got it installed, just got a big white screen [18:46] Technoviking: see didrocks in -desktop please [18:47] Technoviking: bah [18:47] you just missed him [18:47] let me switch to Ubuntu desktop and see if I can get into ccsm [18:48] yeah there should be a thing at the bottom [18:48] like in the screenshot in the directions [18:50]