| elky | Pici, who the heck is this guy? | 00:10 |
|---|---|---|
| Pici | elky: I think hes the person who seriously suggested that everyone in #ubuntu-offtopic needed psychological help. | 00:11 |
| Pici | Not jokingly. | 00:11 |
| === ossurayynot is now known as tonyyarusso | ||
| Pici | ikonia: are you ircing in your sleep? | 00:58 |
| ikonia | no, waiting to go to bed | 00:59 |
| ikonia | waiting for something to finish | 00:59 |
| ikonia | almost done | 00:59 |
| ikonia | how can someone have read the man page to know what options they don't want, but not read the one they do want | 01:00 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from commodore) | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | ikonia: anything founded by cjwatson is official, including that one. it's a dev channel | 01:29 |
| Hobbsee | ikonia: actually, pretty much anything that follows #ubuntu-*, and is made by a core dev, is definitely official (offshoots from #ubuntu-devel) | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | if that helps at all | 01:32 |
| Pici | Hobbsee: That doesn't mean that the channel isn't defunct though. | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | or definitely wanted, and on-topic, anyway | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | Pici: that one tends to be, during the time when they're not actively debugging installers (ie, no alphas out at the moment) | 01:33 |
| * h00k forwards niko to #fix-your-connection | 02:56 | |
| === evilmqui1 is now known as evilmquin | ||
| ikonia | not happy with petan advocating downloading binaries/libs from mozilla.org and dumping them over the top of the ubuntu packaged ones | 10:00 |
| jrib | ikonia: but it worked now. Never mind the fact in 2 weeks the user will be wondering why everything is bonkers! | 10:05 |
| ikonia | annoying | 10:08 |
| === nik0 is now known as niko | ||
| popey | whats the policy on people just barking google at users? | 11:23 |
| Flannel | popey: it's not good | 11:24 |
| Flannel | 11:24 | |
| ubottu | While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question. | 11:24 |
| popey | ahh, better than the !jfgi i used | 11:24 |
| popey | thanks | 11:24 |
| bazhang | is Josh__ just being totally random? or is that me | 11:42 |
| Pici | Does jdub still do Ubuntu stuff? | 13:26 |
| ikonia | not seen him active in #ubuntu for a while, that doesn't mean no though | 13:32 |
| popey | yes, he recently re-applied for ubuntu membership | 13:37 |
| popey | i believe so his new blog could be syndicated on planet ubuntu | 13:37 |
| ikonia | cool | 13:37 |
| popey | don't think he actively 'contributes' (however you measure that) other than blogging / commenting / ranting on identi.ca | 13:38 |
| ikonia | then how does that work ? | 13:39 |
| popey | how does what work? | 13:40 |
| ikonia | if he doesn't do anything (hard to measure) but gets membership | 13:40 |
| popey | dunno if he got membership | 13:40 |
| popey | i just know he asked | 13:40 |
| ikonia | ah | 13:40 |
| popey | given it had lapsed when he left the project | 13:40 |
| popey | seems he does have it | 13:40 |
| popey | https://launchpad.net/~jdub | 13:40 |
| ikonia | I didnt know he'd left the project | 13:40 |
| popey | depends how you define left | 13:41 |
| ikonia | I suppose | 13:41 |
| popey | he left canonical and at that point he kinda droped off the planet a bit | 13:41 |
| ikonia | looks like he's back | 13:42 |
| popey | http://ubuntuedge.wordpress.com/ is his new blog | 13:42 |
| ikonia | interesting few posts I'm reading | 13:44 |
| ikonia | ubuXubu is annoying me, he seems to think that having 18 dual boot computers in his basement is an excuse to say anything and make it fact | 13:53 |
| aborticide | can i be unbanned in #ubuntu ? | 14:26 |
| jrib | ikonia, jussi: ? | 14:34 |
| ikonia | aborticide: you asked to actually be banned though | 14:34 |
| ikonia | aborticide: I have no idea why, but you kept joining this channel and asking to banned in #ubuntu | 14:34 |
| ikonia | aborticide: hello | 14:36 |
| aborticide | hi | 14:37 |
| aborticide | i was away in another window | 14:37 |
| ikonia | no problem | 14:38 |
| ikonia | so what was all this business joining this channel and asking if you could be banned from #ubuntu about ? | 14:38 |
| aborticide | will you help me with a virtualbox problem? | 14:38 |
| ikonia | can't here, this one isn't a support channel | 14:39 |
| aborticide | ikonia: i figured it's pointless to fool myself into rejoining every couple of days asking for support since i am muted | 14:39 |
| ikonia | plus I'm jugging a few things at the moment | 14:39 |
| aborticide | k | 14:39 |
| jrib | aborticide: why did you ask to be banned? | 14:39 |
| ikonia | aborticide: at the time there was no ban/mute showing | 14:39 |
| ikonia | hence the confusion at why you kept joining #ubuntu-ops asking to be banned | 14:39 |
| * aborticide wonders if jrib is trying to incite a conflict here | 14:40 | |
| ikonia | you also stated in other channels that you'd do something to get yourself banned that would be "cool" or "funny" | 14:40 |
| aborticide | yes there was | 14:40 |
| jrib | aborticide: I'm not, I'm trying to understand why you are banned... | 14:40 |
| aborticide | are you aware that i already asnwered that question? | 14:40 |
| aborticide | i guess not, hehe | 14:40 |
| jrib | nope | 14:40 |
| aborticide | well why not? | 14:40 |
| aborticide | obviously you are capable of reading | 14:40 |
| ikonia | ok, calm down a little, the reason this is hard to understand is we couldn't see a ban/mute for you before | 14:41 |
| ikonia | hence why you asking to be banned didn't make sense | 14:41 |
| ikonia | plus it's a little odd that you then suggested in another channel you'd do something to get yourself banned | 14:41 |
| ikonia | who set a mute on you in #ubuntu and why ? | 14:41 |
| aborticide | i don't remember, maybe it was you | 14:42 |
| ikonia | (we really couldn't see anything at the time of your asking) | 14:42 |
| aborticide | oh it was bahzhang | 14:42 |
| ikonia | it wasn't me, | 14:42 |
| ikonia | ok - why | 14:42 |
| aborticide | don't know | 14:42 |
| aborticide | he was being a baby | 14:42 |
| ikonia | really ? | 14:42 |
| ikonia | so if I look at the logs now, there will be no reason for him to have set a mute on you | 14:42 |
| ikonia | is that what you're saying ? | 14:42 |
| aborticide | sure, if it was reasonable i would have just parted ways, seeing as i know i have no chance of appealing it | 14:42 |
| aborticide | obviously there will be a reason, but it was a baby reason | 14:43 |
| ikonia | errr you can appeal/resolve it, that's what I'm trying to do now | 14:43 |
| ikonia | aborticide: ok, please explain the reason you got banned (it's quicker than me going through the logs) | 14:43 |
| ikonia | sorry - muted | 14:43 |
| aborticide | i don't remember, really | 14:43 |
| ikonia | but you know it was a baby reason ? | 14:43 |
| aborticide | you're the one who is helping me with the kernel, so clearly i'm not trying to waste your time | 14:43 |
| aborticide | it was a minor conflict | 14:44 |
| ikonia | I don't think your wasting me time - I've had very reasonable conversations with you in other channels, hence trying to resolve/understand what's gone on | 14:44 |
| aborticide | i think he intended it to be like a 2minute ban, he wanted me to apologize for it and i didn't | 14:44 |
| aborticide | so he just left it like that | 14:44 |
| aborticide | of course i could just lie and fake it | 14:45 |
| aborticide | that's like the easiest solution | 14:45 |
| aborticide | but while i'm at i might just start sucking up to freenode staff in hopes of becomming an admin myself | 14:45 |
| ikonia | aborticide: can you hang on for a minute I'm just trying to find some info (as I said, at the time we couldn't see any) | 14:45 |
| aborticide | okay | 14:45 |
| ikonia | drop the attitude, it's not helping, I'm trying to be reasonable and helpful, being silly about it isn't helpful | 14:45 |
| ikonia | almost there, I may have found someething | 14:46 |
| aborticide | we don't have to be robotic about it, i've been giving you straight and precise answers | 14:47 |
| ikonia | I know, I'm not doubting you, | 14:48 |
| aborticide | you're accusing me of having an attitude, i don't think i have an attitude | 14:48 |
| ikonia | aborticide: what was the rant about sucking up to freenode staff about ? | 14:49 |
| aborticide | the only way i could have less of an attitude is if i stopped being a person and started being a robot | 14:49 |
| ikonia | I don't need to hear that sort of stuff, I'm just being polite and trying to resolve your issue for you | 14:49 |
| aborticide | it wasn't a rant, i meant it just as it was written; if i wanted immunity in a certain channel i could become friends with the mods and then eventually become a mod, just like how sauvin does in freenode and then he can abuse the rules any way he pleases and not give a damn about anything | 14:49 |
| ikonia | from what I'm seeing from the logs you where bascially put on a mute (couldn't find it the first time) because of the random noise you where making in channel and a few smart moth comments | 14:49 |
| aborticide | yes i guess robotic individuals can't see the truth in something i saw unless its ultra technical | 14:50 |
| ikonia | aborticide: how is any of that relevant to your situation ? I just want to help you get this resolved ASAP, making comments like that are uncalled for and don't help | 14:50 |
| aborticide | i was using it to explain to you what my options are, since you asked me why | 14:50 |
| aborticide | i didn't intend to beging ranting about it | 14:51 |
| aborticide | just sayin', you know? | 14:51 |
| ikonia | aborticide: ok, well, try not to, please, its that sort of thing that appears to have got you muted | 14:51 |
| aborticide | if i start lieing about being sorry, in order to save time, then i might as well start trying to get immunity | 14:51 |
| ikonia | aborticide: I'm just going to ask for a few simple things and I'll remove the ban if your comfortablw tiht hem, is that ok ? | 14:51 |
| aborticide | i mean if i had said sorry to him, this problem wouldn't have gone on for like 5-6 days | 14:51 |
| ikonia | sorry - bad typing, | 14:51 |
| ikonia | if your comfortable with what I'll ask you to do | 14:52 |
| ikonia | is that ok ? | 14:52 |
| aborticide | he just wanted me to apologize to him but i said no way! | 14:52 |
| aborticide | comfortable with what? you haven't said it yet | 14:52 |
| ikonia | aborticide: stop, calm down and read what I'm typing to you | 14:52 |
| aborticide | you said you are going to ask me for a few simple things, but they have not been said yet | 14:52 |
| ikonia | aborticide: firstly, #ubuntu is a busy channel, the smart comments/clever jokes aren't needed, just try to stay with the topic of supporting Ubuntu, is that ok for a starter ? | 14:53 |
| aborticide | i don't know, it depends on the situation, often a smart cocky comment can be a supernova of truth | 14:53 |
| aborticide | i keep it balanced though | 14:53 |
| aborticide | equal proportions of technical data so people dont' get distracted | 14:53 |
| ikonia | then we can't continue | 14:53 |
| ikonia | I need you to not do it | 14:53 |
| ikonia | please. | 14:53 |
| aborticide | some people have compulsive obsessive disorder when they jump on my ass | 14:53 |
| aborticide | it's like if i started banning people because they don't capitalize their dots and the first letter of each sentence | 14:54 |
| ikonia | aborticide: no-one will jump on you if you keep to the support topic without the smart comments/jokes ? | 14:54 |
| ikonia | aborticide: is that do-able ? | 14:54 |
| aborticide | of if i start banning people because they can't ask super precise questions | 14:54 |
| aborticide | or* | 14:54 |
| ikonia | aborticide: stop | 14:54 |
| aborticide | i wasn't being unreasonable | 14:54 |
| aborticide | okay lets try something new: show me where i was being unreasonable | 14:54 |
| ikonia | aborticide: just answer with yes or no - that's all | 14:54 |
| ikonia | aborticide: no-one will jump on you if you keep to the support topic without the smart comments/jokes ? | 14:54 |
| ikonia | aborticide: is that do-able ? | 14:54 |
| aborticide | i don't even know what jokes i made | 14:54 |
| aborticide | i rarely even make jokes | 14:55 |
| aborticide | just ask xahlee, he thinks i'm a total nutcase, and he's a nutcase shut-in already | 14:55 |
| ikonia | aborticide: eg: when the person who couldn't speak English joined the channel and started speaking you commented "thats fasinacting, please tell me more" | 14:55 |
| aborticide | ah that's because he kept doing it after he was told 6 times, i thought the moderates were joking around with him, so naturally followed their tone | 14:55 |
| aborticide | is that really grounds to mute me on? | 14:56 |
| ikonia | aborticide: he wasn't told at all, yours was the first line | 14:56 |
| aborticide | cmon now | 14:56 |
| ikonia | aborticide: I'm using it as an example only | 14:56 |
| aborticide | i'm pretty sure he was told, can i see? | 14:56 |
| ikonia | aborticide: the logs are public | 14:56 |
| aborticide | i remember telling bazhang that it was told | 14:56 |
| aborticide | i don't know where to find the logs, i'm not a regular, can you tell me please? | 14:56 |
| aborticide | my statement wasn't a predatory statement out of the blue | 14:56 |
| aborticide | that's how i remember it | 14:56 |
| ikonia | well - it was | 14:57 |
| aborticide | that's also why i did it, because if it was out of the blue i know i'd get the sword right away | 14:57 |
| ikonia | the user said hello | 14:57 |
| ikonia | it was out of the blue | 14:57 |
| aborticide | i remember copying/pasting the previous times he was told when we were in ubuntu-ops even! | 14:57 |
| ikonia | the user then spoke in a non-english language | 14:57 |
| ikonia | you then made your comment | 14:57 |
| aborticide | this is all new-news to me, can i see the logs pls? | 14:57 |
| ikonia | aborticide: I'm not debating it, I'm stating what happened | 14:57 |
| ikonia | !logs | 14:57 |
| ubottu | Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ | 14:57 |
| aborticide | does that have logs from ubuntu-ops too? | 14:58 |
| aborticide | what are LoCo channels? | 14:58 |
| ikonia | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/10/30/%23ubuntu.html | 14:58 |
| ikonia | there is the log | 14:58 |
| ikonia | search for "froncy" | 14:58 |
| aborticide | it seems it does, but i'm not sure what day it was on | 14:59 |
| ikonia | aborticide: loco are local ubuntu groups | 14:59 |
| aborticide | what day was the mute on? | 14:59 |
| ikonia | aborticide: I've just given you the link to the exact day | 14:59 |
| aborticide | oh | 14:59 |
| ikonia | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/10/30/%23ubuntu.html | 14:59 |
| aborticide | i swear it redirected me to the index page | 14:59 |
| ikonia | probably a typo | 14:59 |
| aborticide | let me investigate what happened | 14:59 |
| aborticide | its weird because i usually copy/paste stuff | 15:00 |
| aborticide | whatever | 15:00 |
| ikonia | just search for froncy - this is just an example | 15:00 |
| aborticide | first, observe that bazhang was picking a fight with me all along: | 15:01 |
| aborticide | aborticidezteam: don't try debugging ubuntu, just reinstall it is faster10:10 | 15:01 |
| aborticide | sunityes10:10 | 15:01 |
| aborticide | bazhangaborticide, not helpful | 15:01 |
| aborticide | bazhang: reinstalling alsa is quick and painless | 15:01 |
| ikonia | aborticide: stop, I'm not going through the log line by line | 15:01 |
| ikonia | aborticide: I'm agreeing to remove the ban if you can agree to the terms | 15:01 |
| ikonia | you asked for an example, I've giving you one | 15:01 |
| aborticide | okay i guess we can agree in a totally non-predictable weay | 15:02 |
| ikonia | aborticide: based on the example I've given you, can you please keep the smart comments/joke efforts out of the support channel ? | 15:02 |
| aborticide | see if i was medidating this behavior then i would be able to say , okay it will never ever happen again, but seeing as i just followed my logic common sense, this is an entire character attitude adjustment | 15:02 |
| ikonia | aborticide: I can't be bothered any more, I'm really trying and you're just constantly arguing it | 15:02 |
| ikonia | aborticide: I'm not removing the ban, | 15:02 |
| aborticide | okay | 15:02 |
| ikonia | aborticide: please come back another day when you can listen and resolve this | 15:03 |
| aborticide | can you ban me from here too? i don't want to fall into this trap again | 15:03 |
| ikonia | aborticide: no problem | 15:03 |
| ikonia | aborticide: if you part the channel I'll see if I can get that done | 15:03 |
| aborticide | oh that's weird, why do i have to part it? | 15:04 |
| ikonia | aborticide: because I can't do it this second, so if you part, I'll request it be done | 15:04 |
| aborticide | ah then i should make sure myself that this is guaranteed | 15:04 |
| jrib | ... | 15:04 |
| ikonia | if you feel you must | 15:04 |
| aborticide | well sure | 15:05 |
| aborticide | fuck shit ass bitch cunt | 15:05 |
| aborticide | fuck shit ass bitch cunt | 15:05 |
| aborticide | fuck shit ass bitch cunt | 15:05 |
| aborticide | fuck shit ass bitch cunt | 15:05 |
| aborticide | fuck shit ass bitch cunt | 15:05 |
| topyli | aborticide: you should part this channel anyway, since you aren't here to resolve any issue | 15:05 |
| aborticide | fuck shit ass bitch cunt | 15:05 |
| aborticide | fuck shit ass bitch cunt | 15:05 |
| jrib | !ops | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Tm_T, tritium, elky, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, imbrandon, PriceChild, Madpilot, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, tsimpson, gnomefreak, jussi, topyli, or nhandler! | 15:05 |
| ubottu | jrib called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () | 15:05 |
| ikonia | pointless and dissapointing, I've had some really interesting conversations with him in other channels | 15:05 |
| * Pici blinks | 15:05 | |
| ikonia | http://www.mikesplanet.net/forums/ | 17:32 |
| ikonia | worth noting | 17:32 |
| popey | and not spreading about | 17:34 |
| popey | his server is getting a royal beating | 17:34 |
| popey | you know thats Mike Basingers server where he's testing out the new theme? | 17:34 |
| ikonia | no, I didn't know that | 17:35 |
| ikonia | maybe he should setup some restrictions on it so it doesn't get spidered by google | 17:35 |
| popey | well.. it wasn't spidered by google until it was mentioned in a publicly logged irc channel :) | 17:38 |
| popey | he's only passed that url around via email AIUI | 17:38 |
| ikonia | popey: someone just posted it in #ubuntu saying he found it in google | 17:39 |
| ikonia | hence why I mentioned it here | 17:39 |
| popey | ah ok | 17:46 |
| popey | have let him know | 17:46 |
| ikonia | ta | 17:46 |
| === KB1JWQ_ is now known as KB1JWQ | ||
| guntbert | hi, if http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/locallanguage#hebrew-arabic is right, then the factoid !arabic should be changed | 19:32 |
| Pici | Its a bit weird to send all people who speak arabic to the channel for the Israeli team. | 19:46 |
| guntbert | Pici: I would agree, but either the mentioned page is wrong (which I cannot know) or the factoid | 19:47 |
| Pici | guntbert: I'll follow up with the loco council. | 19:48 |
| guntbert | Pici: ok, thx | 19:48 |
| ubottu | xangua called the ops in #ubuntu (Djokera) | 20:52 |
| topyli | i wonder what is the biggest arabic speaking loco | 20:52 |
| bazhang | tsimpson, is that a correct banmask? | 22:33 |
| tsimpson | bazhang: $a is an "extban" | 22:33 |
| tsimpson | $a:<nickserv_account> bans by account | 22:33 |
| bazhang | $a:oly562 tsimpson ah okay | 22:33 |
| oly562 | i will say this once,, those of you who are picking on me, i do not respect you as linux users, ubuntu community, or humans in general. you are hurting the ubuntu code that i will not be referring any user i come in contact with to #ubuntu ever again. i used to say it was a good room, that is until i found out ops booted people for asking questions of which they could not answer. no big, i usually find out the answers to my quest | 22:44 |
| oly562 | time to do your job for you..... | 22:44 |
| oly562 | your busted: | 22:44 |
| oly562 | examples of biased ops: | 22:44 |
| oly562 | ops picking on a helpless user from another country: | 22:44 |
| oly562 | 1. http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/09/09/%23ubuntu-ops.txt | 22:44 |
| bazhang | oly562, hi | 22:45 |
| oly562 | time to do your job for you..... | 22:45 |
| oly562 | your busted: | 22:45 |
| oly562 | examples of biased ops: | 22:45 |
| oly562 | ops picking on a helpless user from another country: | 22:45 |
| oly562 | 1. http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/09/09/%23ubuntu-ops.txt | 22:45 |
| oly562 | my gawd, cant you see there is an english barrier? | 22:45 |
| oly562 | Ikonia, and You | 22:45 |
| oly562 | 1. http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/09/02/%23ubuntu-ops.txt conspiring... | 22:45 |
| oly562 | 2. http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/09/02/%23ubuntu.txt watching me like a hawk, why? i know, ikonia spoke to you, also rww geting in the action towards me... | 22:45 |
| oly562 | Idleone explicit language and claims to be a saint. | 22:45 |
| oly562 | 1. http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/09/02/%23ubuntu-ops.txt | 22:45 |
| tsimpson | *sigh* | 22:47 |
| bazhang | <[daemon]> linxeh: yes - use openSUSE * [[daemon]] (~mmichna@opensuse/member/mmichna): Marco Michna | 23:31 |
| marienz | I wish people wearing a project cloak would be more careful :( | 23:35 |
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