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ndrofthelinecan somebody direct me to some kind of how-to guide for setting up a website served from home using a standard consumer Belkin router?01:45
ndrofthelinei thought i had everything all set but i just simply can't get my webpage served to an external IP01:46
ndrofthelinei have port 80 forwarded through my router, i have apache2 listening on the port, i checked with my ISP to make sure they're not blocking it01:46
jetolejoin #mplayer01:46
ndroftheline it just...isn't working.01:46
twb1) rent a VPS for a few dollars a month; 2) put your website on it; 3) throw the standard consumer Belkin router away.01:46
ndrofthelinewell it' snot just about a website. i want to run a murmur server on it too01:47
ndrofthelinebesides, i want to learn01:47
ndroftheline!mplayer01:47
ubottumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs01:47
ndroftheline...a media player?01:47
ndrofthelinejetole: why mplayer?01:47
twbndroftheline: he forgot the01:47
qman__ndroftheline, assuming you're talking to us over the intended connection, your port 80 is open01:51
qman__browsing to it asks for a user and password01:52
twbqman__: but his router is what's responding01:52
twbServer: Ubicom/1.101:52
qman__ah01:52
qman__so you'd have to disable that function in the router01:52
twbI hate trying to configure those pissant consumer routers.01:52
qman__yeah, most of them are absolute junk01:53
qman__it's why I use ubuntu for mine01:53
jetolendroftheline: I was changing rooms cause I wanted to ask about how to make mplayer and gnome-screensaver play nice with each other02:34
jetolendroftheline: thought it's offtopic, the correct answer is heartbeat-cmd="dbus-send --session --dest=org.gnome.ScreenSaver --type=method_call /org/gnome/ScreenSaver org.gnome.ScreenSaver.SimulateUserActivity" in your config file02:34
twbjetole: I'm curious; config file for what package?02:37
hansinndroftheline: Maybe see if you can set your router so it only accepts admin logins "within" the network, not from the outside.02:58
twbThat would definitely be a good idea02:59
hansinActually, that is a good idea anyway for security reasons.03:00
hansinBut it then might also properly allow the forwarding of port 80 to your sever running Apache vs. exposing its own internal webserver that handles the admin stuff.03:01
yitz_We got this setup with ~130 servers that we'd like to keep all pretty much in sync and identical and whatnot. Does anyone know of some cluster management tools that04:00
yitz_We got this setup with ~130 servers that we'd like to keep all pretty much in sync and identical and whatnot. Does anyone know of some cluster management tools that'd help manage them?04:00
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tonyyarussoyitz_: puppet04:19
yitz_Will look into that. Thanks04:20
twbPuppet/chef/cfengine are more targeted towards HETEROGENEOUS environments, but you could certainly use them for a cluster.04:20
yitz_So long as it's simple to use and not awkward, overkill isn't a bad thing04:21
yitz_We'd probably mostly be using it to run random commands and apt-stuffs04:22
twbFor a homogeneous cluster I'd almost be tempted to netboot the nodes, copying the OS to RAM at boot and using the local disks for swap and /var/tmp only04:22
twbyitz_: puppet works by you defining the end goal (e.g. "ensure sshd is installed"), and it working out what commands to issue (e.g. "apt-get install openssh-server").04:22
nat_homewhen you change a hd in a software raid1, what are you supposed to do after ? go through fdisk to partition it or mdadm has a command to do the entire process … mdadm --add just want a parition …06:18
terinjokesthis is, uhm, interesting06:21
terinjokesi'm trying to modprobe ipv6, and I've found I have no /lib/modules directory06:21
twbterinjokes: your kernel might be compiled without module support.06:23
twbI heard a rumour that RHEL do that to prevent you from loading unsupported modules into their kernel without consciously voiding of their support contract.06:24
terinjokestwb: possible06:24
terinjokestwb: except i'm running ubuntu server and not RHEL06:24
twbOh, sorry, I thought this was #netfilter06:24
terinjokes(i got out of DLL HELL, no need to go to another ;) )06:25
twbterinjokes: it's actually worse on unix than on windows, which is why there are "distros" to shield you from it.06:25
twbTry installing, say, Oracle Hyperion on SLES and you'll run into in about ten seconds.06:26
terinjokesbeen doing this linux thing for too many years now06:26
twb*into it in06:26
terinjokesso i'm well aware06:26
terinjokes(much of that time was with PowerPC boxes, what fun!)06:26
eagles0513875|2hey guys with out an app armour policy for dove cot is it possible dovecot can give me problems?06:34
terinjokestwb: you know what I can do06:37
eagles0513875|2hey guys im using squirrelmail to access my email server06:38
eagles0513875|2and i get this erro ERROR: Could not complete request.06:38
eagles0513875|2Query: SELECT "INBOX"06:38
eagles0513875|2Reason Given: [SERVERBUG] Internal error occurred. Refer to server log for more information. [2010-11-12 07:35:12]06:38
eagles0513875|2i have checked the mail.err and it says its a permission issue06:39
eagles0513875|2but my permissions have been checked and rechecked06:39
eagles0513875|2and they are correct06:39
eagles0513875|2app armor is enabled but i dont have a policy for dovecot setup at all06:39
eagles0513875|2could that be causing squirrelmail to return that error06:39
eagles0513875|2andn the permissions error in the log?06:39
noaXessgood morning06:41
eagles0513875|2hey noaXess06:42
eagles0513875|2:-(06:42
eagles0513875|2kinda frustrated this am noaXess hows you06:42
noaXesshave a raid5 with 6T.. first partition has 2T.. now i want additional 2 partitions with each 2T.. if i create the second partition, i use fdsik and set the pertition size to +2000G06:42
noaXesseagles0513875|2: why?06:42
noaXesshere is all fine..06:42
eagles0513875|2ERROR: Could not complete request.06:43
eagles0513875|2Query: SELECT "INBOX"06:43
eagles0513875|2Reason Given: [SERVERBUG] Internal error occurred. Refer to server log for more information. [2010-11-12 07:35:12]06:43
noaXessjust a little understanding problem06:43
eagles0513875|2thats why06:43
eagles0513875|2i checked the logs its saying permissions is the problem but i have permissions setup right06:43
noaXessi see.. read06:43
eagles0513875|2i dunno only thing i can think of is i would need to setup an apparmor profile for dovecot?06:43
noaXesspuh.. it seams that an db access problem is there? not fs perms..06:44
noaXesseagles0513875|2: what is in the server log?06:44
eagles0513875|2i dont have anything setup to access a db though06:44
noaXessshow us ther error log...06:44
eagles0513875|2im using the passwd and the shadow file06:45
eagles0513875|2Nov 12 07:35:13 eagle dovecot: IMAP(jonathan): mkdir(/home/jonathan/Maildir/.INBOX.Sent/cur) failed: Permission denied (euid=1000(jonathan) egid=1000(jonathan) missing +w perm: /home/jonathan06:45
eagles0513875|2thats whats in the log06:45
noaXessshow us a listing of /home/06:46
noaXesspastebin..06:46
jmarsdenI think the output of    ls -ld /home/jonathan    would be quicker :)06:46
noaXessok :)06:46
eagles0513875|2drwx------ 6 jonathan jonathan 4096 2010-11-11 17:22 /home/jonathan/06:46
noaXesseagles0513875|2: just user has rwx.. maybe group needed too?06:47
eagles0513875|2tried the group06:47
eagles0513875|2as well06:47
eagles0513875|2still same issue06:47
noaXessto my partition understanding.. 6T raid5.. first partition 2T.. now i want aditional 2 partition, each 2T... with fdisk the second part i create with +2000G.. but the third the shoul also be ~2T.. but it isn't..06:48
noaXesseagles0513875|2: so you tried to chmod -R +w /heom/jonathan?06:49
eagles0513875|2noaXess: yep06:49
noaXess.. /home^06:49
noaXessok..06:49
noaXessand restarted services?06:49
eagles0513875|2yes06:49
noaXessok...06:49
eagles0513875|2if i restarted them as is06:49
eagles0513875|2atm06:49
eagles0513875|2i dont get that error with squirrelmail06:49
eagles0513875|2i can login see emails recieve and send just fine06:50
eagles0513875|2thats odd06:52
eagles0513875|2i refreshed twice06:52
noaXesshave you already googled?.. think so ;).. http://www.google.ch/#hl=de&expIds=17259,17311,17315,23628,23756,24878,26637,26711,26761,26788,26849,26869,27130,27400,27404,27520,27545&xhr=t&q=dovecot+imap+permission+denied+%2Bw+perm&cp=38&pf=p&sclient=psy&newwindow=1&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=dovecot+imap+permission+denied+%2Bw+perm&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=96c4277166fb2c4406:52
eagles0513875|2O_o06:52
noaXessdon't know exaclty dovecot.. but others had same problem..06:52
noaXessmaybe. shared mailboxes or wath ever..06:52
eagles0513875|2noaXess: im the only one with an email account on the server06:58
noaXesshm..06:58
eagles0513875|2and im using user accounts that have username and password on the system06:58
eagles0513875|2noaXess: any idea?07:01
eagles0513875|2noaXess: im tempted to setup roundcube to see if i have the same issue07:02
eagles0513875|2hey guys any app armour experts here07:15
eagles0513875|2!cacti07:27
nat_homeI'm just changed a hard drive on a raid 1 and now after I rebooted, grub doesn't seem to work anymore, it says at GRUB _ in the boot07:32
eagles0513875|2nat_home: i believe you would need to rebuild the array first i coudl be wrong07:36
databitsI'm doing some trouble shooting with my router, and have taken a look at my log files on the router.  I'm receiving a ton of incomming traffic in on port 33089.  I have ran a net stat on all the machines which are on the network, and have not been able to find any machines listening on this port.  Does anyone have any idea's ?07:42
eagles0513875|2databits: are the packets udp or tcp packets07:42
databitsnot sure07:44
databitsit is a simple log... just gives ip, and port.  At first I was thinking it was torrent traffic, but I ran a netstat on all my machines... nothing is going on .07:45
databitsalot I mean alot of traffic.07:45
eagles0513875|2databits: should give if its udp or tcp07:45
databitsthat used to be one of the ports I used for my torrent traffic but I do not have any clients running and I checked all the connections07:45
eagles0513875|2what ports do you have forwarded on ur router?07:45
databitsnot that port07:46
eagles0513875|2i have seen what you are experiencing before07:46
eagles0513875|2but turns out it was a udp packet flood07:46
twbeagles0513875|2: please stop changing your nick, it makes it harder to ignore you.07:46
eagles0513875|2:(07:46
eagles0513875|2twb: why do you want to ignore me07:46
databitsmy network performance is crapy, I'm chating with cisco people now.  Seeing about getting a new router shipped to me.07:47
eagles0513875|2twb: secondly i leave my desktop pc on and im on from school07:47
twbeagles0513875|2: because you're a noisy fool.07:47
eagles0513875|2databits: try disabling any udp ports that you might have forwarded07:47
eagles0513875|2twb: :(07:47
databitsI do not have any udp ports forwarded.  I have nothing forwarded except a few ports to my linux server07:48
databitsthis is weird07:49
databitshold on brb I have to grab my serial off my router, so I can get a new model :)07:49
eagles0513875|2thats the only thing i can think of causing the traffic07:49
twbI've inherited a Chenbro 3-to-5 hotswap backplane (http://www.chenbro.com/corporatesite/products_accessory_detail.php?serno=727&PHPSESSID=4d6d1129)07:54
twbIt includes a five-pin "HDD activity and failure cable"07:54
twbHow do I work out where (if anywhere) that connects to the motherboard?07:55
twb(I'm using md raid; there's no hardware raid card.)07:55
reeniginEesreveRhow can i know the details of memory consumption on my server?08:00
twbreeniginEesreveR: free, ps08:01
reeniginEesreveRtwb, also i'd like to see swap information, and see which process is thrashing more etc.08:01
* reeniginEesreveR has to admit that he's a n00b08:01
twbreeniginEesreveR: those commands also emit swap information.08:03
reeniginEesreveRright08:04
twbreeniginEesreveR: you may also find top(1) useful08:04
databitsthis port 33089 mumbo jumbo is stumpin me.  None of my machines, have any active connections on that port.  On top of everything else I do not have that port forwarded in the router, so that traffic should not be passing threw either way.08:04
twbIt provides a straightforward, sortable, refreshing UI08:04
databitswhat would be the correct command to check my linux server to see if something is going on with my server08:05
twbdatabits: perhaps that is a randomly allocated port for one of your existing services, or clients.08:05
twbdatabits: e.g. NFS08:05
twbAh, you checked netstat already.  I presume you ran it with -a (all connection types)?08:06
databitsI'm sorry I'm not following08:06
databitsyes sir08:06
twbThen I don't know.  Run tshark / tcpdump and examine the traffic to try to work out what it is.08:06
* eagles0513875|2 pokes RoyK with a stick08:32
* RoyK grabs the stick and whips eagles0513875|2's arse08:33
eagles0513875|2lol morning08:33
RoyKmorning08:33
binBASHeagles0513875|2: you have to get up earlier to trick RoyK :D08:40
eagles0513875|2loool what time zone he in08:40
binBASHaccording to his hostname it should be 9:45am at his place :D08:43
eagles0513875|2lol then CET like me08:43
binBASHyup08:43
binBASHI'm also in Europe Berlin timezone ;)08:45
uvirtbotNew bug: #674390 in openssh (main) "1:5.5p1-4ubuntu4 (scp <host>:ns_sys_config) problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67439008:51
terin-webchati'm running ubuntu-server as a guest in xen, any idea on if I should install one of those linux virtual packages?08:53
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slooksterpsvCan someone assist me with ldap on ubuntu 10.04?09:20
RoyKslooksterpsv: ask a specific question, please09:21
yann2retransmit_or_expire_response_records: Failed to resend packet id 20905 to IP 10.0.255.255 on subnet 10.0.10.76 < from nmbd... interesting isnt it :(09:21
slooksterpsvI did a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 10.04, and started immediately after install on this guide to get OpenLDAP installed and working: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html - the problem is I get down to sudo ldapadd -x -D cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com -W -f frontend.example.com.ldif  and I get invalid credentials, I've tried 6 different guides all give the same invalid credentials09:22
slooksterpsvI've tried using the slapd password, root password, tried setting the password in slapd.conf nothing is working, I'm getting very frustrated, and looking more into another distro for servers09:23
slooksterpsvof course09:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #674408 in samba (main) "setting up a share from nautilus did not install smb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67440809:47
uvirtbotNew bug: #674417 in tftp-hpa (main) "unable to get logs either in daemon nor foreground" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67441710:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #674429 in mysql-5.1 (main) "package libmysqlclient16 5.1.49-1ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16.0.0', which is also in package mysql-cluster-client-5.1 7.0.9-1ubuntu7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67442910:42
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uvirtbotNew bug: #674467 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.0-3ubuntu5.7 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 128" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67446712:12
Myx0x3why does my Ubuntu server loose the static IP and change to a dynamic?12:47
twbMyx0x3: because you installed from the desktop CD, so you have NetworkManager installed, and it is designed to break networking.12:47
Myx0x3twb: i installed from the ubuntu server cd12:49
twbMyx0x3: is NM installed?12:50
Myx0x3NM?12:50
mgolischhow did you configure the static ip?12:50
mgolischusing the interfaces file?12:50
twbMyx0x3: dpkg -l network-manager12:50
Myx0x3mgolisch: in interfaces12:50
Myx0x3i changed eth0 to static.. and its corrected setup12:51
Myx0x3twb: i dont have any grafical interface12:51
mgolischnm should never touch any unterfaces configured via the interfaces file12:51
twbMyx0x3: network-manager is a daemon.12:51
mgolischit does not on my desktop atleast12:51
twbmgolisch: granted; it has just stung me so many times that I always make damn sure it's gone before I try anything else12:52
Myx0x3twb: aha, but the static ip works for like 1 day, then i have to restart the network deamon12:52
twbMyx0x3: there should not BE a network ademon12:52
Myx0x3hmm12:52
twbThat is why I want to make sure that the "network-manager" package is not installed.12:52
Myx0x3init.d/networking ?12:53
twbdpkg -l network-manager should list its state as "un".12:53
twbMyx0x3: that's an init script, but it doesn't start a daemon.12:53
Myx0x3twb: aha, but i have never installed NM, i installed my servers for 2 days ago12:53
Myx0x3and before it had no problems whit this..12:54
mgolischwhat other software did you install?12:54
twbMyx0x3: so you can confirm that its state it "un" according to dpkg -l?12:54
Myx0x3mgolisch, SMB and OpenSSH12:55
uvirtbotNew bug: #674481 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67448112:56
Myx0x3twb: network manager is not in the list12:57
twbMyx0x3: OK, pastebin the content of /etc/network/interfaces.12:57
Myx0x3twb: http://pastebin.com/vh0giVCZ12:59
twb"auto eth0iface eth0 inet static" is wrong; there should be a newline after the first "eth0"12:59
Myx0x3and its correct! all my ipadresses starts at 192.168.2.2012:59
twbOther than that, it's fine.12:59
Myx0x3yes your right.. changed it now13:00
uvirtbotNew bug: #674483 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.7.0-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67448313:01
Myx0x3seems like pastebin change it13:01
Myx0x3there is an new line whit iface eth0..13:01
twbThen I guess you need to look at what else is around that's running as root13:02
Myx0x3yeah.. maybe its my Minecraft server.. but could it realy fuck up my IP adress?13:02
Myx0x3im running it as sudo, otherwise it whine about permissons13:03
twbI don't know.  Unless minecraft is part of Ubuntu, I can't support it.  You need to talk to your vendor.13:03
Myx0x3twb: Minecart is an game, hehe.. but ill look and try to see what makes the problem! could maybe be the router.. how do i look the logs who could possible log what happens whit the IP?13:05
Myx0x3im pretty new at linux and dont look at the logs pretty often13:05
twbIt's possible there's something in your logs.13:06
twbThey'll be in /var/log; try sorting the directory by mtime and looking at the newest files13:06
Myx0x3twb: witch log? there is like tons of them13:06
Myx0x3okay..13:06
twbI love molly-guard13:07
Myx0x3is it possible to run a bash script whit "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" every 6h?13:08
Myx0x3that would solve the problem, but its pretty lame solution13:08
twbMyx0x3: the scheduling system is called "cron".13:10
twbMyx0x3: read the crontab manpage, then "crontab -e" or /etc/crontab or /etc/cron.hourly.13:10
twbBut as you say, that would be REALLY lame13:11
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d-fens_hi, how can i manage which services are started ?13:19
d-fens_like enable  mysqld on startup13:20
d-fens_like rc-status add mysql default in gentoo13:20
d-fens_its 10.0413:21
twbThe only way I know (for upstart-managed jobs) is to go into /etc/init/foo.conf and edit it13:24
twbFor sysvinit jobs (i.e. just about everything in universe), you can simply say "update-rc.d foo disable".13:24
d-fens_k thanks i'll try that13:24
twbALL services should start on boot by default.13:24
hdonhi all :) anyone know where to find mock data for common database tables like user accounts and such? i would like more data available while i'm developing my applications :)13:45
mathiazhdon: you may wanna look at the MySQL test database (such as the World database)13:50
hdonmathiaz, i shall google that, thanks :)13:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #674505 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67450513:51
hdonspooky :)13:52
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TeTeThggdh: the scheduler is starting, stopping instances since over a week now, seems to work. I can reach the webservers and the file I've uploaded there just fine14:03
hallynsmoser: kirkland: so in the uds session on cloud desktop, did anyone ever bring up doing it with a webos (like eyeOS) instead of a vnc connection to classic desktop?  just curious...14:28
smoserhallyn, no14:30
hallynok, thx14:31
hallyn(seems like that would also forego the worry about proprietary clients on windows)14:32
jdstrandhallyn: hey. did you see that powerpc and armel ftbfs?14:48
jdstrandhallyn: (on libvirt)14:48
jdstrandhallyn: I also wanted to mention this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/libvir-list@redhat.com/msg29384.html where people are talking about other ftbfs (with patches) that you may want to add patches for for people using xen14:49
hallynjdstrand: yeah, i got emails on em14:50
jdstrandhallyn: my patch to fix bug #672943 was accepted upstream, so I am going to add it to the packaging branch, but not upload14:50
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 672943 in libvirt "virt-aa-helper crashes when domain XML does not contain <uuid>" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67294314:50
jdstrandhallyn: ok cool14:51
hallynwhat is a packaging branch?14:51
jdstrandhallyn: I figure I wouldn't upload as it is such a small change and thought you might be working on libvirt more14:51
hallyni see, did xen cause this?  i've been looking at the code and the failure made no sense to me :)14:51
jdstrandhallyn: the one you merged with14:51
jdstrandhallyn: with only the briefest of glances, our ftbfs are not the same as the ones reported upstream14:52
hallyndon't suppose we have access to any powerpc?14:52
jdstrandhallyn: there is the porting box14:52
hallynjdstrand: alas i need to work on somethign else today, so apart from looking during idle time at the source, i was going to look at it seriously on monday14:53
jdstrandhallyn: sure. I just wanted to make sure you knew about it14:54
hallynthanks.  like i say, so far i'm stumped14:54
hallynso i'll read thorugh the xen thread anyway14:54
jdstrandhallyn: I'll commit my patch to the branch with UNRELEASED as the distribution name and then you can have at it at your convenience14:54
RoAkSoAxmathiaz: are you still gonna look into package Zenoss?14:56
mathiazRoAkSoAx: not in my natty plan for now14:56
RoAkSoAxmathiaz: ok thanks. Just in case you wanna get in touch with them, you should try contacting npmccallum14:57
mathiazRoAkSoAx: cool - thanks for following up14:57
jdstrandugh, the libvirt branched is totally hosed14:58
jdstrands/branched/branch/14:58
hallynjdstrand: ?14:58
jdstrandI did all the quilt push ; bzr add stuff, but now I did 'bzr update' and there are a gazillion conflicts14:59
jdstrandudd ftl14:59
hallynbut seriously,15:00
hallyni thought recent udd discussions suggested dropping .pc15:00
hallyni think mandating that you quilt pop -a before bzr ci makes sense15:00
jdstrandhallyn: I would totally agree15:00
jdstrand*totally*15:00
jdstrandhallyn: but we all need to be on the same page. last I heard (from soren, who is driving udd with libvirt) is we want .pc15:01
poolvibeCan I get some help with samba permissions please.  I have a share I want to force 775 664 on.  An example of create mode and directory mode would make my day15:01
poolvibenot sure if i should use force?15:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #674543 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.6 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67454315:02
jdstrandhallyn, soren: I really don't care what we do. frankly, I would be happy with just debian/ in a bzr branch like what the desktop team does15:02
jdstrandhallyn, soren: I just don't have time to be fighting udd at every turn15:02
hallynjdstrand: the problem with just debian is that we need to do something about gnulib15:03
hallynthat's what keeps ruining my libvirt daily-build plans :)15:03
hallynjdstrand: do you want to just mail me the patch you wanted to add?15:04
jdstrandhallyn: from a packaging perspective, I don't see why that would be the case as we use the upstream tarballs15:04
jdstrandhallyn: it is in the bug15:04
hallynthere's a bug?15:04
hallynjdstrand: oh, that one15:05
jdstrandyes :)15:05
jdstrand08:50 < jdstrand> hallyn: my patch to fix bug #672943 was accepted upstream, so  I am going to add it to the packaging branch, but not upload15:05
hallynok, thanks.15:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 672943 in libvirt "virt-aa-helper crashes when domain XML does not contain <uuid>" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67294315:05
jdstrandhallyn: can you explain your gnulib point? it should be frozen in the tarball and lp:ubuntu/libvirt15:06
hallynjdstrand: ok, then i guess it doesn't matter.  my daily-builds are based on git, and there it is NOT in the tree15:08
jdstrandhallyn: right15:08
hallynand the 'git submodule update' is so built into the bootstrap process that without the .git/ contents, you can't bootstrap15:08
* jdstrand nods15:09
jdstrandyou totally need to do all that with the daily git build, but not in the Ubuntu package15:09
jdstrandso whether we have debian/ alone or part of everything, it shouldn't matter15:09
hallynso...  i'm fine with that...15:10
jdstrandhallyn: maybe it is as you said, the udd stuff has changed recently and we are doing it wrong. you, me and soren need to sort out the way that will work consistently...15:10
hallynyes, and including .pc does not work easily consistently with bzr,15:11
jdstrandI have no opinions as I just want it to work, and *every* time I've tried udd with libvirt it blows apart15:11
hallynespecially bc if you refresh a patch, bzr just wants to delete the .pc/*, but not re-add it15:11
hallynmathiaz: do you remember the recent email regarding .pc in udd?  (seems up your alley)  i thought there was an actual 'official' new stance on it15:12
jdstrandat this point I am just 'bzr co lp:ubuntu/libvirt' after each time. I may as well ignore lp:ubuntu/libvirt at this point15:12
hallynjdstrand: and, we just look at the version # in debian/changelog to determine the tarball to use?15:14
hallyn(if we just put debian/ into VCS)15:14
jdstrandhallyn: yes15:14
kirklandhallyn: hmm, how do you mean?  webos like?15:15
jdstrandhallyn: the work flow is more 'apt-get source foo', make changes, upload and commit those changes back to bzr15:15
hallynkirkland: like http://eyeos.org/.  Then the user uses his browser to opent eh desktop, can use a browser in any OS, and can detach/re-attach just like with vnc15:16
jdstrandhallyn: any time you grab the source, you need to look at the tree to make sure there aren't any unreleased changes15:16
jdstrandhallyn: I'm ok with udd if it will actually work. if it doesn't, I suggest debian/15:16
kirklandhallyn: hmm, well, that's sort of what we're going for with a java based nx client15:17
kirklandhallyn: i'll look at eyeos now though15:17
hallynjdstrand: it completely avoid us having to beg ppl to quilt push -a, so yeah...15:17
jdstrandand quilt pop -a...15:17
hallynkirkland: a webos just seemed better suited for this environment15:17
hallynbut, i coudl see ppl wanting the standard ubuntu desktop, so maybe it wouldn't be good enough15:18
mathiazhallyn: hm - I don't remember the official stance on .pc/15:19
mathiazhallyn: I'd suggest to ask barry or james_w in #ubuntu-devel15:19
jdstrandhmm...15:19
jdstrandI didn't do 'debcommit --release', I just did the merge (with quilt and bzr add) and bzr ci...15:19
* jdstrand sighs15:20
hallynhm, i've never done debcommit - always do dch -i15:21
jdstrandright15:21
jdstrandbut soren told me:15:21
jdstrand08:54 < soren> jdstrand: after that, you run "debcommit --release"15:21
jdstrandhallyn: that is after dch15:21
jdstrand(and when you make it live)15:21
jdstrandso I'm betting I screwed up cause I didn't do that, and the importer was looking for the tag or something15:22
jdstrandit is nice how much of a timesaver this has been for me...15:22
jdstrand(not to be bitter or anything)15:22
hallynyeah15:23
hallyngot my sympathy in any case15:23
* hallyn goes to look at the udd wiki15:23
smoserhallyn, well, yes it would, but it woulnd't really be ubuntu15:25
smoserwe wantto demo/use ubuntu15:25
hggdhTeTeT: cool!15:25
hallynkirkland: so the java nx client is oss?15:26
kirklandhallyn: yes15:26
hallynok, i thought it had been decided it wasn't15:26
SAngeliHi guys, I am geting an error when buring ubuntu iso files and have no clue how to solve it. This is what I get as error: http://img828.imageshack.us/f/isoerror.jpg/  what is that causes this error? Please anyone.  My OS is windows OS15:27
hallynmathiaz: thx, will do15:27
TeTeThggdh: not so sure what I should monitor but for the functioning service. Will need to shutdown the exercise next week for an exam though15:27
jdstrandhallyn: check this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/530749/15:30
jdstrandhallyn: if that doesn't scream "don't bzr add .pc" I don't know what does15:31
jdstrandpfft15:31
jdstrandhallyn: that is obviously 'apt-get source libvirt'15:31
hallynsigh15:31
lavishhi all15:32
jdstrandhallyn: maybe we should discuss that with barry15:32
* jdstrand -> #ubuntu-devel15:32
lavishdo you know if php on ubuntu 8.10 had been compiled with pdo support?15:32
a_okwhat do I need for speedstepping /cpu fequency scaling?15:36
hggdhTeTeT: there is not much to monitor actually -- we would be looking for exceptions15:48
hggdhTeTeT: so browsinggrepping the logs for errors, and the like15:49
ssureshotdoes scp use the same pub/priv keys as ssh ?16:05
hallynssureshot: yes16:08
ssureshotroger thatn thank you hallyn16:11
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smoserkirkland, i dont think the java client in nx (ie, from stgraber's demo) is open source.16:16
smosereven if it were, it doesn't do anything bug download a binary version of the official nomachine client (which is free beer)16:17
kirklandhallyn: ^16:17
hallynthen i would offer eyeOS/equivalent as an alternative for those so inclined16:19
binBASHeyeos is nice ;)16:20
binBASHsynology servers have something like this16:20
LyonJTHey16:21
LyonJTdoes anyone have a good vnc server they could recommende?16:21
binBASHhttp://www.synology.com/enu/products/demo/index.php16:21
binBASHif you want to see ;)16:22
LyonJTbuy a SAN16:22
LyonJT:)16:22
binBASHLyonJT: already have thanks :D16:23
LyonJT:) which make16:23
binBASHLyonJT: well, currently moving to Amazon S3 though ;)16:24
LyonJTlol16:24
LyonJTmoving to the cloud then?/16:24
binBASHyup16:24
binBASHalready moved.......16:24
* hallyn quietly sneaks off for early lunch16:25
binBASHLyonJT: running here hybrid16:25
patdk-wkI don't get everyones usage of ec216:25
patdk-wkit's great for some things16:25
patdk-wkbut it seems everyone is building everything in it, not caring about performance or cost16:25
binBASHpatdk-wk: Our customers have import jobs with 20 Million images16:25
patdk-wkyou just moved that part right?16:26
binBASHyup16:26
patdk-wknot the actual serving of those16:26
binBASHpatdk-wk: also the serving16:26
patdk-wkheh16:26
binBASHpatdk-wk: customer needs his stuff in a S3 bucket16:26
binBASHso why not serve directly from it16:27
patdk-wkoh, if customer demands it, that is different :)16:27
binBASHyeah, they developed a firefox plugin and retrieve images from s3 with it16:27
patdk-wkeverything goes out the window cased on customer demands :)16:27
patdk-wkbased16:27
binBASHpatdk-wk: I hope client is ready to pay 15K / Month though :D16:28
binBASHAmazon EC2 is not that cheap16:28
hggdharen't we building daily ISOs for natty?16:29
patdk-wkya, it's only cheap, if you do it on-demand-load16:29
\shbinBASH: for a tryout it's "cheap enough"...when you do serious business, you should think about using datacenter providers like equinix others and do you own job in setting up a good server environment16:29
binBASHyes we're doing so patdk-wk16:29
binBASH\sh: Only have spike usage :D16:30
binBASHso cpu is needed on demand16:30
patdk-wk\sh did you miss it16:31
patdk-wkit's a customer demand, that they use ec2 for that stuff16:31
patdk-wkwell, s316:31
* patdk-wk doesn't think you can use s3 directly yet thought, without ec216:31
binBASHyeah, that customer provided s3 as storage :D16:31
\shwell, I'm happy that we only wasting 1k US bucks per month right now...when there is more traffic on net+cpu I'll switch them to another datacenter16:31
binBASHpatdk-wk: sure you can16:31
binBASHyou just can't use ebs16:32
patdk-wkhmm16:32
patdk-wkah16:32
binBASH\sh And how many servers you have?16:32
patdk-wkbut then, ebs without ec2 is pointless :)16:32
\shbinBASH: on amazone ec2? 4x t1.large16:32
PleXTanyone known how to start a unattended Windows7 installation disc from linux PXE server? :/16:32
\shbinBASH: that's for an US tryout of our product ;)16:33
binBASH\sh:  OK ;)16:33
binBASHwe host usa stuff at superb.net servers16:33
binBASHjust that image importing part is at ec216:33
binBASHrunning instances continuesly is too expensive at ec2 ;)16:34
\shbinBASH: but when we see that the US customers are throwing away webex, we will do a contract with a datacenter provider and building our new US facility ;) that means today we would need somewhat about 60-90 servers (HP BL4** /DL3{6,8}5 + network infra from cisco)16:35
\shbinBASH: well, we do have some more machines at rackspace (real hw)16:36
binBASH\sh: Our customers won't pay that much for all that kind of servers16:36
binBASH:(16:36
binBASH\sh: you know they make over 30K monthly, but don't want to invest too much in hosting :D16:37
binBASHso we don't have option here to buy a massive amount of servers for them16:38
\shbinBASH: 30K? that's what we are paying for our module in ffm including traffic16:39
binBASHhehe16:40
binBASH\sh: Well we are a very small company.16:40
poolvibecan samba be served over the net with ssh?16:41
yitz_poolvibe: sshfs ?16:43
poolvibeyitz_  I want to give access to a file server with samba but hardened a bit16:45
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Maletorwhy did freenode tell me this? http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#proxies when i visited http://85.190.0.3/ I have been getting CSRF attempts from that host18:01
MaletorPreliminary research suggests it is a proxy at Freenode itself trying to POST the shit out of my server.18:04
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bogeyd6can you use one computer to load balance between multiple machines18:40
mathiazbogeyd6: usually yes - it depends on your application though18:56
mathiazbogeyd6: for http, ha-proxy is a good choice18:57
RoAkSoAxbogeyd6: if you look to loadbalance Web traffic, haproxy is probably your best option. For other stuff, IPVS might be a better option18:59
bluethundrI am running ubuntu-server under VirtalBox.. I need to get copy-paste in the terminal working so that I can work with it more effectively19:13
bluethundrthis was the winning forumula under Fedora: http://pastebin.ca/198931919:14
bluethundrhow do I do the same under ubuntu server? what packages would I need?19:14
hallynjdstrand: you were right in the first place - the statstest test fails to compile bc it shouldnt' compile when we don't use xen - and we dont' compile xen for amd/ppc (obv)19:18
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uvirtbotNew bug: #674645 in dnsmasq (main) "occasional crashes: glibc detected double free or corruption" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67464519:19
jdstrandhallyn: oh, cool :)19:38
hallynjdstrand: i'll let it bake in a ppa before i request a merge20:15
jdstrandhallyn: the ppa will only build amd64 and i386 right?20:16
jdstrandhallyn: oh, but you probably know it builds from the poting machines20:16
jdstrandporting20:16
jdstrandhallyn: do you need the armel porting box?20:16
hallynoh, will they?  feh20:16
hallynno,20:17
hallynthe ppc porting box had no tools on it, and i don't know of an armel one20:17
jdstrandhuh?20:17
hallynso maybe i'll just go ahead and request the merge.  it built locally20:17
* jdstrand goes to look20:17
hallyndavis doesn't have much of anything.  i couldn't even manually ./configure20:17
jdstrandhallyn: did you see the motd when you logged in?20:17
hallynnnnope20:18
jdstrandhallyn: try logging in again20:18
hallyn$*(&%*($&%20:18
hallynall right, i'll try my tree there, thanks :)20:18
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jdstrandhallyn: what I have as the porter box for armel is allowing me to login...20:19
zulhey guys what version of libvirt are we using?20:20
jdstrandzul: 0.8.5 in natty atm20:20
zuljdstrand: thanks20:20
hallynjdstrand: failure was identical on both, so i'll assume if it works on ppc it works on arm20:20
jdstrandzul: 0.8.6 should be out be the end of the month. depending on how hallyn feels, we might get it for natty20:20
hallynabsolutely20:21
* jdstrand nods20:21
* hallyn feels spunky20:21
jdstrandhehe20:21
zuljdstrand: the newer the better for openstack ;)20:21
jdstrandwell, I imagine soren would be available to help then :)20:21
* jdstrand waves to soren20:21
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noaXesshow are the 3ware commands?20:36
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noaXessto check status of the 3ware controller?20:37
Ninjixanyone having Lotus trouble?20:50
eriksson25Hi, anyone know how I can disable mantis driver from spamming my syslog?21:05
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bogeyd6how can i use the command line to upgrade only certain packages21:11
erichammondbogeyd6: This works for me: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME21:12
bogeyd6hmm21:12
bogeyd6k21:12
mrmistor apt-get upgrade ...21:13
erichammondmrmist: apt-get upgrade seems to want to upgrade other packages, too.21:13
dandifiedgari :)21:15
mrmistahh one particular package, right21:16
osmosishow can I stop kvm and kvm_intel modules from loading at bootup?21:21
eriksson25Hi, anyone know how I can disable mantis driver from spamming my syslog?21:23
mrmistadd them to  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf  ?21:25
hallynosmosis: look at /etc/init/qemu-kvm.conf21:25
hallynosmosis: i think if you disable that, they won't auto-load21:26
eriksson25I dont want to kill the driver, just want it not to put alot of stuf in the syslog.21:27
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uvirtbotNew bug: #674701 in ntp (main) "NTP client packets always have bad checksum" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67470121:31
osmosishallyn, nice idea21:32
osmosishallyn, hmm...how do disable though21:32
osmosishallyn, i dont want to start commenting out stuff in a system script that could be replaced at upgrade21:33
osmosishallyn, maybe i just need to disable the qemu-kvm system service? not sure how to do that either21:33
hallynosmosis: you can probably just 'mv qemu-kvm.conf qemu-kvm.conf.no'.  Or, comment out the 'start on' line.  Or, put 'exit 0' as the first line of the script (so, next line after 'pre-start script')21:37
eriksson25mrmist: How do I restart syslog so it stops spaming mantis now that I have put it on blacklist21:44
mrmisteriksson25: erm /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart probably but I'd expect you'd want to restart whatever is loging to it rather than the logger.21:46
eriksson25probl21:46
mrmistby the way when I was talking about blacklist.conf before i was answering a different question21:47
garymcHi anyone know where I can find my PHP error log file?21:48
eriksson25lol, sorry I missunderstood21:48
garymci have it set to /var/log/php-errors.log in the php.ini but its not showing21:48
garymcim on ubuntu should I ask this in php?21:48
garymcwhoudl I have to chown the file?21:49
lullabudanybody know of an ubuntu livecd that has the vmware tools installed already?  or any other livecd, for that matter...21:53
lullabudwhen you mount a remote server using Places->Connect to Server, is there a way to make that mount show up to the filesystem so you can interact with it via the CLI?22:14
MagicFablullabud, I guarantee it doesn't.22:14
lullabudlovely.22:14
MagicFablullabud, I was answering re: vmware-tools22:14
lullabudoh, thanks.  that's what i figured... might end up just making my own.22:15
lullabudalso, i was thinking it would be nice to get versions of Windows that were designed to be used within vmware and didn't include all the drivers for all the extra hardware that will never be attached to the vm.  i don't suppose something like that exists either...22:16
MagicFabyou can normally install most packages from live CD anyways... but haven't tried those22:16
dandifiedgarilllk22:17
dandifiedgaridandifiedgari22:17
lullabudfound the answer to the places->connect to server question, the mounts show up in ~/.gvfs22:21
garymcanyone help me get my cronjob to work22:46
lullabudgarymc: what's wrong with your cron?22:46
garymcwhere do i put it?22:47
lullabudcrontab -e22:47
garymcwhat do i call the file22:47
garymcyeah i do that then it asks where should I output it to22:47
lullabudoh, just save whatever it's editing...22:47
lullabudcrontab -e opens a temp file with the existing crontab, lets you edit it, and then when you're done it puts the updated crontab file into place.22:48
garymcok my job has a # infront of it in the file it created22:50
lullabudthat will prevent it from running.22:50
garymcit also says do not edit this file22:51
lullabudlook at the example crontab here - http://linux.die.net/man/5/crontab22:51
garymcwhy is crontab -e putting # at the beggining?22:51
lullabudsee how comments are denoted with # ?22:51
lullabudyou can delete the # if you want it to run...22:51
lullabudi usually just comment out old entries instead of removing them... that way they're already there if i need to put them back.22:52
lullabudgarymc: use pastebin.com if you need me to look at it22:53
garymclullabud : http://pastebin.com/1256qwBP22:55
lullabudso, line 4 will run every night at 10:55pm22:56
garymcyes22:57
garymcit works :)22:57
lullabudwhat OS is that?  you got that info by doing crontab -e?  that's an odd warning...22:58
garymcyes22:59
garymchow about thei22:59
garymc30 09 * * * php /var/www-ssl/orderCron.php22:59
lullabudthat would run at 9:30am23:03
lullabudeach day23:03
lullabudyou should probably put the absolute path to php, especially if it's running as root, just in case.23:04
garymcwhat you mean? Absolute to php?23:06
garymcthat command seems to be doing the trick23:06
lullabudfind the absolute path to php by doing `which php`, then put that in there instead of just php23:08
lullabudyou don't need to, but it's a good habit to get into.23:08
garymcohh ok23:10
mathiazkirkland: hey - here is another cobbler-like project: https://github.com/proffalken/edison23:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #674245 in apache2 (main) "package apache2.2-common 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: il sottoprocesso vecchio script di post-installation ha restituito lo stato di errore 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67424523:51

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