[00:16] evening guys [01:35] so everyone set for Senchacon?? [01:35] oops wrong channel [01:36] orlando 31 male here [01:36] wrong IRC [01:37] anyo [01:37] this BB app sucks [01:52] bb app? [01:53] I dunno... bulletin board? === jck77_ is now known as jck77 [13:30] Morning everyone [13:32] Is it just me or is everyone in the community a bit bummed about the changes Mark S. has been making for the future of Ubuntu, no more Rhythmbox, Gnome replace by Unity, X by wayland and probably something else towards having more MONO (.NET) stuff in it? [13:34] Or maybe the reason why everyone has been so Quiet lately is due to being over worked if that is the case then I can totally understand I'm in that same boat right now feeling like I'm ready to crash, speaking of that my Work PC is acting real funny. [13:34] How can I give it a good clean up does anyone have a safe guide as to how to do that. Bleach Bit is one option [13:41] reya276: depends on what you mean by cleanup [13:43] well yesterday my display drivers started acting all crazy(I have the deafult drivers not proprietary ATI) and today the system is extremely slow for some reason and this machine is a beast [13:44] hmmm, did you get an x.org update? [13:49] well I did that reset command dpkg-resetconfig etc... [13:50] but now everytime I logout it says my X config is messed up [14:26] oh man Remmina for Terminal Servers Connection is awesome, works flawless [14:26] GnomeRDP can suck it, be Gone from my Desktop [14:28] ok now lets see if my X issues where fixed [14:48] yeap it seems that the X issue is fixed no more error msg at login/logout [14:50] Anyone see this. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-November/145273.html [14:51] It looks like Fedora believes Wayland is the way to go as well. [15:01] morning [15:16] so it is [15:54] zoopster: morning [15:54] hi mhall119 [15:55] zoopster: so after talking with my manager, it seems that using Ubuntu is going to be a harder sell than implementing a cloud [15:55] the company is trying to standardize on a single distro, and right now it's redhat [15:55] that's a interesting excuse [15:56] what other os's are in use? [15:56] Windows server [15:56] that's it for servers that I know of [15:56] only one flavor? [15:56] though I'm sure there's some mainframes and ancient AIX boxes running around somewhere [15:56] right [15:56] only RHEL as far as I know [15:56] for linux [15:56] don't know what version of Windows Server [15:57] will UEC run non-Linux OSes? [15:57] uec is a product specific to ubuntu [15:57] you can run eucalyptus on rhel [15:57] I meant guest OS [15:58] sure [15:58] we don't support windows on it, but it will run [15:58] ok, if they can run Windows and RHEL instances as the guests, they might be okay with Ubuntu on the hosts [15:58] an upsell the enterprise version will provide windows guest support [15:59] enterprise UEC? [15:59] basically, yes [15:59] are they different software, or just different support levels? [15:59] it's additional software to the open core [15:59] ok [15:59] they might go for that [16:00] do you know if Oracle supports running their DB products in the cloud? [16:00] they do on EC2 [16:00] I don't know about private [16:01] but expect they treat it as virtualization [16:01] do they provide images, or just support it if you do it? [16:03] I think Moffitt will go for at least a pilot project [16:08] run oracle in a vm and pay them for all the cpus on the hardware anyway ... win! not! [16:09] yeah [16:09] we were discussing what to do with out MySQL installs yesterday [16:10] mariadb? [16:10] I heard rumor that InnoDB is going to be dropped from the free version [16:10] yeah, mariadb is my preference [16:10] i think dorgan is using mariadb [16:10] but my manager says Moffitt will probably pay for the commercial MySQL+InnoDB [16:10] you should talk to him [16:10] we're already throwing support money at Oracle, why not [16:11] but you'll end up on a dead platform ... mysql is dead, lets face it [16:11] yeah, that's what I told him [16:12] and he agrees [16:12] but, the DBAs and purchasing people all like Oracle [16:12] so they'll be just as happy to require us to move our apps to it [16:12] boo [16:12] yeah [16:35] mhall119: there are ec2 images for some oracle technology [16:36] I thought the innodb discussion was a misunderstanding of the conversation [16:37] so you use various flavors of sql db's what's the difference in rhel vs ubuntu? [16:38] zoopster: they'd like us to use only Oracle and MS SQL [16:38] we're bucking the trend using MySQL already [16:38] yeesh [16:38] we're already being encouraged to use Oracle for any new projects [16:39] I guess your company has a big IT budget to waste [16:39] I guess so :( [16:40] I'm trying to convince my manager that it's better to ask forgiveness than permission, and build out an Ubuntu+Django+MySQL cloud product on the cheap [16:41] here's some proof points that ubuntu is best of breed for cloud deployments - http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2010/11/11/does-the-operating-system-still-matter-part-4/ [16:42] nice, fedora switching to wayland also ... someday [16:42] and I saw where ubuntu has more than that much share in rackspace as well [16:50] zoopster: thats awesome ... rackspace started off as such a redhat place [17:03] itnet7: ping pong [17:55] We are running into the Oracle-license-by-core problem. [17:56] We want to put our new development in 11g, and keep our old systems in 10g. But the cost of 11G on our five-core server is astonishing to say the least. [18:14] Anyone in here planning on picking up a Boxee Box? [18:15] http://www.boxee.tv/buy [18:17] anyone know if facebook has an icons available? [18:17] i am looking to use a fcacebook icon on a customers site...but want to use the image from facebook itself [18:18] dorgan: http://facebookicon.net/ [18:20] "We have no permission to use their trademark and we are in no way competing with their website or business model. All icons/buttons available on this site are the result of user submissions." [18:21] http://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/plugins/like may be helpful as well, depending on what you are trying to do. [18:23] i am just looking for a little facebook icon to put next to a link :) [18:23] but I would like it to be hosted by facebook [18:27] Are you looking to link to their facebook profile? [18:28] Looking around their site, I don't see any good way to use an official Facebook image, hosted by facebook, that they are officially sanctioning. [18:48] RoAkSoAx: pong [18:56] itnet7: dude!! how's it going?? I texted you the other day... have you received my sms? [19:14] dorgan: did you look here? http://www.facebook.com/badges/ [19:15] dorgan: and here's the plugin links http://developers.facebook.com/plugins [19:17] yeah problem with that stuff is its all javascript I just want an image [19:18] and its going to have to look good @ 20 x 20 [19:19] wassup [19:20] orlando [19:30] what about a google search for images dorgan? [19:40] zoopster: He's looking for an official image hosted by Facbook, which I don't think he's going to find. [19:44] agreed other than consuming their tools which link to their logo's you are correct [20:00] dorgan: http://www.facebook.com/brandpermissions/ [20:01] "We generally do not allow the use of the Facebook logo. If you would like to request special permission for a specific use, please work with your Facebook business contact." - http://www.facebook.com/brandpermissions/logos.php [20:02] However in there is an "f" logo that you can use. [20:03] However you need to download and host it locally. The good news is that using height and widht, making it shows as a 20x20 image should be really easy.