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mhall119AlanBell: did you need me?00:46
newz2000AlanBell: initially we'll test it by adding the user style sheet in the preferences... if it gets well accepted we do something that allows a user to more easily use it04:15
AlanBellmhall119: all sorted now, thanks07:21
dakernewz2000, there is an issue with the new theme09:09
dakerall RTL pages becomes LTR09:09
AlanBelldaker: example page?12:36
dakerAlanBell, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MoroccanTeam/AR12:37
dakerAlanBell, look at this <body  lang="fr" dir="ltr">12:39
AlanBellyeah, but there is rtl at the content level13:07
AlanBellit is displaying rtl13:07
AlanBellif you look at the lists the bullets are on the right and the full stops are on the left, if it was ltr they would be the other way round13:09
AlanBellit should probably be right justified, which isn't quite the same thing as direction13:10
AlanBell<div id="page" lang="ar" dir="rtl">13:10
AlanBell<div dir="rtl" id="content" lang="ar"><span class="anchor" id="top"></span>13:10
AlanBellyeah, it is because text-align is set13:15
AlanBellif it wasn't then it would align based on direction13:15
dakeri saw that13:17
daker#content {text-align:right;}13:17
dakershould fix it13:18
AlanBellnope, that would be a disaster!13:29
AlanBelltext-align needs to be not set13:30
AlanBellthere doesn't appear to be an actual css value for that which is odd13:30
AlanBellfirebug lists the computed value as "text-align:start;"13:31
AlanBelloh, that is a real value http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-css3-text-20101005/#text-align13:32
AlanBelldaker: can you file a bug for it please13:32
dakersure13:32
dakerAlanBell, a quick fix13:37
daker#content-rtl {text-align:right;}13:37
dakerand if the page is RTL just add rtl to id="content$dir"13:38
AlanBellhmm, what about mixed pages?13:38
AlanBellsurely text-align:start; is better13:38
dakerAlanBell, you are right13:40
dakerAlanBell, bug 67450413:42
ubot4Launchpad bug 674504 in ubuntu-website "RTL direction is not applied correctly (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67450413:42
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AlanBellcould some other people have a ponder about bug 674504 please14:00
ubot4Launchpad bug 674504 in ubuntu-website "RTL direction is not applied correctly (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67450414:00
AlanBellI think the issue is that in reset.css which is supposed to clear the styles it sets text-align to left. That isn't the default or optimum text-align, it should be start.14:01
AlanBell*[dir="rtl"] #content {text-align:start;}14:03
AlanBell^^ correct syntax for ugly hack method of fixing it14:03
l3onHi all..14:25
newz2000hi l3on14:25
l3onnewz2000: ubuntu.com template is available?14:25
newz2000l3on: no, not precisely, but there are community created versions available at https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website14:26
l3onubuntu.china has the u.c theme :)14:26
newz2000not quite, and we don't endorse copying the site like they do14:27
newz2000they reverse engineered it14:27
l3onmmm well, I tested light theme, is not the best :/14:27
newz2000l3on: it is just a foundation14:28
newz2000you are welcome to improve it14:28
l3onah ok :)14:28
newz2000we don't want to have mirror image clones though14:28
newz2000because it confuses people about the diff between official sites and "partnering" sites14:28
newz2000there should be a familiarity, a connection, like a brother and a sister, not identical twins14:28
l3onyes, understood!14:29
newz2000cool. We are happy to help and we love contributions if you care to provide improvements14:30
charlie-tcanewz2000: Are you available to discuss bug 670927 ?14:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 670927 in ubuntu-website "Can not print the "Leadership Code Of Conduct" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67092714:46
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newz2000charlie-tca: I am, but I think we'll get better results on the mailing list14:46
newz2000charlie-tca: alejandra and yailli guide the visual and they are on the mailing list14:47
newz2000they're the ones that need to be convinced of the priority of the change14:47
charlie-tcaI see. All right, I will join the list for this discussion. Although, I suspect the end result is "if you need to print something, too bad"14:48
newz2000charlie-tca: yailli is a css expert and she loves pure, beautiful css and she's working on improving what we have (what we got from the contractors).14:50
charlie-tcaOkay. I will give it a shot then. I appreciate your time is valuable, and at least you are trying.14:50
newz2000thanks charlie-tca14:51
charlie-tcaYou are welcome14:51
AlanBellnewz2000: what are your thoughts on the rtl issue and reset.css?15:04
newz2000AlanBell: it sounds like we need to get rid of text-align: left to fix the prob, correct?15:05
AlanBellwell reset should clear all css oddness, so if text is say right aligned it should go back to normal after applying reset.css15:06
AlanBelljust I think normal is "start" and not "left"15:06
AlanBellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/htdocs/light/css/reset.css that is it15:07
newz2000I wonder why its not like that15:17
AlanBellI guess someone thought that the default text alignment should be left, which is not quite the case15:43

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