[00:00] <_jesse_> linusasus6: fdisk
[00:01] <UndiFineD> _jesse_, or parted
[00:01] <linusasus6> fdisk  /dev /sda2
[00:02] <Cernunnos_> someone else encountered pbs with 10.10 install?
[00:02] <_jesse_> UndiFineD: I didn't say he couldn't use parted :/ I was just giving another option
[00:03] <_jesse_> parted is probably easier though
[00:03] <_jesse_> linusasus6: try parted first
[00:03] <UndiFineD> oh, sorry _jesse_ I swap channels often, did not read all
[00:03] <_jesse_> UndiFineD: :)
[00:04] <b0red> Hey room
[00:04] <sawdyhacker> hi
[00:04] <vincent_lee> hi
[00:05] <sawdyhacker_> سلام
[00:05] <b0red> welcome guys
[00:05] <sawdyhacker_> هلا
[00:05] <linusasus6> ok then how to unmount partition by terminal
[00:05] <sawdyhacker_> والله
[00:05] <b0red> و عليكم السلام
[00:06] <Pici> !sa
[00:06] <sosaited> sawdyhacker_: Waslam
[00:06] <sawdyhacker_> كيفكم
[00:06] <sawdyhacker_> ليه ماتتكلمون
[00:06] <sawdyhacker_> صم بكم عمي
[00:06] <sawdyhacker_> سولف وخليها على ربك
[00:07] <kindari|work> Okay I got sshfs working, and I'm trying to add it to fstab. I see the uid=1003 etc on the sshfs website, does any of that information need to change?
[00:09] <shcherbak> linusasus6: man umount
[00:11] <zak_> how to format COMPLETELY an external usb disk ?
[00:12] <intrader> Anyone please, I need to set environment variable VISUALWORKS in the 'appropriate unix startup file'. How should this be done?
[00:13] <shcherbak> zak_: you can use gparted, but if you think of earising data then it need more.
[00:13] <zak_> schatan: YES ERASING DATA ACTAUALLY
[00:13] <cannonfodder> hey does anyone know what its called when a program can be run from any terminal location?  for example, i can run "grep" or "ls"  from any directory...i have a program that i want to make global so that it can run when i just call it...can anyone help me with this
[00:14] <ilovefairuz> cannonfodder: put it in ~/bin
[00:14] <[thor]> cannonfodder: it means that those programs are in a directory that is included in a PATH
[00:14] <cannonfodder> thanks you guys but you gave 2 different answers
[00:14] <cannonfodder> so which one is it?
[00:15] <zak_> shcherbak: can i do that from konsole?
[00:15] <shcherbak> zak_: easiect way is to dump files on it, copy as much files as drive can handle.
[00:15] <[thor]> cannonfodder: ~/bin/ qualifies under my response
[00:15] <yeats> cannonfodder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PATH_(variable)
[00:15] <cannonfodder> thanks yeas and thor
[00:16] <yeats> if a directory is in your $PATH, it can be run without typing the full directory path each time
[00:16] <yeats> s/it/the programs in that directory/
[00:17] <[thor]> cannonfodder: /usr/bin is a relatively safe place to put your program
[00:18] <cannonfodder> thanks
[00:18] <shcherbak> zak_: otherwise man shred
[00:19] <zak_> shcherbak: ?
[00:19] <detrix42> Hello everyone.  Is there a program for linux/ubuntu that is similar to printshop.  for like printing business cards using Avery's templates????
[00:19] <shcherbak> zak_: type in terminal: man shred
[00:19] <jrib> detrix42: can't you just use openoffice?
[00:20] <detrix42> jrib: perhaps but I don't like how open office does it.
[00:20] <XiD|Lap> hi all. i recently decided to give the netbook remix edition a try on my netbook, but i find the performance to be slow and chuggish. when i attempted to drop visual settings for better performance, everything was greyed out with 'mutter addon disables visual style changes' or something of the sort
[00:20] <detrix42> jrib: I will double check though...
[00:20] <[thor]> detrix42: http://glabels.sourceforge.net/
[00:20] <XiD|Lap> 10.10 netbook remix that is
[00:21] <hellphyre> whats a good image editing app for ubuntu?
[00:21] <josh__> I would try...
[00:21] <hellphyre> photoshop like
[00:21] <switch10_> hellphyre: gimp
[00:21] <josh__> Idk if it is for linux yet
[00:21] <[thor]> Hellie: gimp, comes in the standard install package
[00:21] <josh__> gimp is good
[00:21] <josh__> Havent used it in a while
[00:21] <XiD|Lap> anyone know why my netbook version is so slow? :|
[00:21] <hellphyre> thanks
[00:21] <josh__> how old is it?
[00:22] <[thor]> hellphyre: it supports layering, plugins, and all the usual stuff.. though most of the commands/functions have slightly different names
[00:22] <shcherbak> zak_: formatting drive removes partition table, so there is way to recover file. if you *overwrite* them then there is no chance to get former data.
[00:22] <XiD|Lap> the netbook arrived earlier this morning, i can find you the newegg link if you'd like
[00:22] <detrix42> [thor]: thanx very much
[00:22] <tech> hi how do i make a channel?
[00:22] <hellphyre> [thor]: is it in app manager or do i have to go find it online>
[00:22] <hellphyre> ?
[00:22] <XiD|Lap> tech type /join #channelname
[00:22] <switch10_> XiD|Lap: how much ram?
[00:22] <[thor]> hellphyre: try checking your applications menu first, under Graphics
[00:22] <josh__> ram is important
[00:22] <tech> and that chanel will be mine?
[00:23] <zak_> shcherbak: well i think i made  the mistake yesterday to use fdisk , so it seems it hdd has got partitions :( that's why i want to format it completey
[00:23] <tech> for users to join?
[00:23] <XiD|Lap> switch10_ 1 gig >_>
[00:23] <ilovefairuz> tech: ask in #freenode
[00:23] <josh__> This is for UBUNU not IRC help
[00:23] <hellphyre> [thor]: not installed
[00:23] <[thor]> hellphyre: if it is not already installed as "Gimp Image Editor", you can easily find it in the Software Center
[00:23] <josh__> D:
[00:23] <hellphyre> [thor]: thanks agaon
[00:23] <[thor]> np
[00:23] <hellphyre> again.
[00:24] <XiD|Lap> i take it 1gb isn't enough to sufficiently run the os?
[00:24] <switch10_> XiD|Lap: I personally do not like UNR.  I am using the standard desktop install on my dell mini 9.
[00:24] <shcherbak> zak_: either use shred or manually copy random things on it few times (trick is to use whole drive).
[00:24] <josh__> What I can't get is why, when I first got Ubuntu the Software Center wouldn't install anything
[00:24] <XiD|Lap> switch10_ what is your hardware on it? do you have greater than 1gb of ram?
[00:24] <josh__> Anyone know about that?
[00:24] <switch10_> XiD|Lap: 1gig should be fine.  2 will obviously better.
[00:24] <josh__> defintly
[00:24] <switch10_> XiD|Lap: i have 2 in mine
[00:25] <XiD|Lap> i will give the desktop version a try then. i don't find mysel very fond of the unity interface anyway
[00:25] <shcherbak> hellphyre: but you do want to visit Gimp web site, a lot of stuff to learn and get.
[00:25] <hellphyre> shcherbak: ok will take a look
[00:25] <josh__> gimp? I need a better thing than that
[00:25] <XiD|Lap> thanks for the help switch10_
[00:26] <switch10_> no prob
[00:26] <e01> i installed totem-xine but how to run it?
[00:26] <josh__> nver heard of it
[00:26] <sparpa> hello
[00:26] <josh__> but you may need to mark it exuctable if it dosn't run
[00:27] <davey486> Is there a way to not have a grub menu show up every time I log in?
[00:27] <josh__> You need it
[00:27] <hellphyre> josh__: who are you talking too?
[00:27] <josh__> do you have 2 operating systems?
[00:27] <davey486> I don't have another os
[00:27] <Slix`> I want to run some commands at every startup (rules for iptables). How would I do that?
[00:27] <sparpa> !list
[00:27] <josh__> oh! you mean the login, you can't remove that
[00:28] <switch10_> davey486: install startup-manager and set grub to time out after a second or so.
[00:28] <XiD|Lap> davey486 you could probably change the GRUB timeout to 1 second, so you don't have a delay while booting your computer, but stil lhave the option of booting into recovery console without playing around in bios
[00:28] <shcherbak> davey486: There are Gui Grub managers
[00:28] <josh__> or your talking about when it shows: Ubuntu(logo)
[00:28] <josh__> I think it only has it in OpenSUSE
[00:28] <davey486> No, not the login i menu the grub menu, I reinstalled and it started to have it, wasn't there before
[00:28] <josh__> I never saw one of those in Ubuntu
[00:29] <intrader> Anyone, in .profile I added VISUALWORKS=some-existing-path and followed with export VISUALWORKS. Then I start bash, but I don't I get blank to echo $VISUALWORKS. What gives? :(
[00:29] <josh__> that, umm
[00:29] <aurilliance> Gnome do has an icon cache, but the cache doesn't update - all the icons it has for the items in my main menu are really outdated. How can I fix this? Is there some gnome-do-clear-cache command?
[00:29] <shcherbak> josh__: it is easier (here) if you use nick of person you talk to.
[00:29] <switch10_> davey486: are you sure you reinstalled over the previous version?  sounds like you installed on another partition.
[00:29] <josh__> not that I can think of
[00:29] <josh__> unless you do it manullay
[00:30] <davey486> No, I did on same partition
[00:30] <josh__> oh
[00:30] <josh__> That what I did too
[00:30] <josh__> wait, i put mine on another hard disk
[00:30] <XiD|Lap> davey486 so you originally had no grub menu, reinstalled over your existing partition, and now grub shows up - and you don't want it to. is that correct?
[00:30] <davey486> yes
[00:30] <josh__> My hard disk (which has windowsXP) cannot want to partition
[00:30] <XiD|Lap> davey486 and setting grub to a 1 second timeout is not sufficient?
[00:31] <Slix`> ... Can I repeat my question?
[00:31] <josh__> how about 0?
[00:31] <risa212> Please Go to chat server #212
[00:31] <davey486> I guess , but why did it show up though?
[00:31] <switch10_> Slix`: ask away
[00:32] <josh__> yep
[00:32] <davey486> I always choose to use the whole disk in the install option
[00:32] <XiD|Lap> davey486 that is beyond my level of expertise. i could offer some guesses, if you'd like
[00:32] <risa212> please go to chat server #212
[00:32] <shcherbak> aurilliance: you could rmove menu and install it one more time (confusing is to find what is responsible for menu icons)
[00:32] <rww> risa212: stop that, please
[00:32] <Slix`> I want to run some commands at every startup (rules for iptables). How would I do that?
[00:32] <josh__> stop using this as a ad!
[00:32] <davey486> whats yuor guess
[00:32] <josh__> Oh! I know how
[00:33] <aurilliance> shcherbak, You mean remove the menu from my panel? Or uninstall gnome panel? Can you clarify??
[00:33] <switch10_> davey486: try running sudo update-grub
[00:33] <Chaos2358> how do i get root access to my drive? i am trying to extract a file and i need to place part in /usr/sbin/ and part into /etc but when i try it tells me permission denied
[00:33] <josh__> Either you do it when your computer startsup (press a combitaion of keys) or in the control panel
[00:33] <XiD|Lap> davey486 perhaps it was configured to run silently somehow (don't know if this is possible/how to do it sorry) and reinstalling simply put a fresh version of GRUB on with default settings, thus you are now seeing it
[00:33] <josh__> That isn't how it works
[00:33] <XiD|Lap> Chaos2358 try using 'sudo'
[00:34] <XiD|Lap> before your copy command
[00:34] <josh__> yea
[00:34] <XiD|Lap> er extract command
[00:34] <blacksh33p> if he's in the sudoers file^
[00:34] <josh__> sudo
[00:34] <Chaos2358> XiD|Lap, but i am not doing it in terminal dont know how to do it in terminal
[00:34] <Slix`> I thought there was a folder or something that causes commands to execute.
[00:34] <shcherbak> aurilliance: neither, uninstall menu applets, alacarte and all others dependent, and instal them (after sudo apt-get update) again
[00:34] <Slix`> (at every startup)
[00:34] <switch10_> Chaos2358: open nautilus as root.  gksudo nautilus
[00:35] <Cernunnos_> hi again
[00:35] <switch10_> Chaos2358: then do it.  copy from cli is cp.
[00:35] <Chaos2358> ty
[00:35] <Slix`> Does anybody know? :( I thought it would be simple to run commands at startup.
[00:35] <Cernunnos_> someone told me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/530333/ means i should dl another image disc, anyone can confirm?
[00:35] <davey486> could it be possible that it is because there are 2 version of the kernel
[00:35] <yeats> Slix`: you're probably thinking of /etc/init.d
[00:35] <davey486> could it be possible that it is because there are 2 version of the kernel xid?
[00:35] <Slix`> yeats: That sounds familiar. What is it?
[00:36] <blacksh33p> Slix`: google :)
[00:36] <XiD|Lap> Slix` please look at this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=331671
[00:36] <XiD|Lap> found via google
[00:36] <mmcji> How do I construct IPTables rules to block all external RFC 1918 addresses?  From my ubuntu server I am able to ping 10.12.92.x and 10.12.93.x addresses.  My local lan is 10.x
[00:37] <DrManhattan> ok, I would like to dispose of this mail icon/chat thing in my system notification applet
[00:37] <XiD|Lap> davey486 i don't know specifics about linux upgrading, but if you overwrote the partition your OS was originally on, i assume it was formatted (and thus you have nothing remaining from your previous OS)
[00:37] <DrManhattan> I would really appreciate some help with this because I can't figure out what it's actually CALLED to google for it
[00:37] <DrManhattan> in fact, if someone would just tell me what to google I wouldn't mind just RTFMing, I just don't know what to search for
[00:37] <DrManhattan> indicator applet
[00:37] <Slix`> XiD|Lap: Thanks. Do you know which method would be best for iptables?
[00:38] <DrManhattan> I would like to remove the mail/chat thing from it
[00:38] <cdcdcdc> i'm trying to configure rhythmbox's upnp plugin to transcode from flac to mp3 but i can't find the configuration files anywhere and i can't find anything on forums. does anyone know about this?
[00:38] <davey486> oh, ok guess ill just live with it, have a nice night
[00:38] <XiD|Lap> DrManhattan see if this thread helps you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=640599
[00:38] <kitrana> what happened to burn in compiz animations?
[00:38] <XiD|Lap> Slix` not a clue buddy, haha.
[00:38] <sparpa> hello
[00:39] <sparpa> !list
[00:39] <Cernunnos_> my livecd doesn't boot : http://paste.ubuntu.com/530333/ anyone as a clue?
[00:39] <yeats> !hi | sparpa
[00:40] <regspalding> hi running 10.10 minimal install from usb stick connected to a hub. also connected is a usb keyboard. keyboard is not functioning in the ncurses menu.. any thing to look out for?
[00:40] <sparpa> !bot
[00:40] <ikonia> Cernunnos_: looks like cd's dead
[00:40] <blacksh33p> Cernunnos_: had same error, disc error
[00:40] <Cernunnos_> ikonia: new image burn and it will be ok you think?
[00:40] <jmyles> What command will tell me which user I am?
[00:40] <ikonia> Cernunnos_: I'd run a check on the image first
[00:41] <b1nd3r> whoami jmyles
[00:41] <yeats> jmyles: whoami
[00:41] <Cernunnos_> ikonia: don't know what's that...
[00:41] <agentgasmask> Hi guys. I'm trying to open a pdf file from firefox, however, when I click on the file, instead of it promting me to select whether I would like to save it or open it (I would select open if I could) it just displays a bunch of "code" in the browser. I think this might have to do with the fact that the file ends in a .PDF, where as files that end in a .pdf (note the case difference) behave correctly. Any help?
[00:41] <blacksh33p> Cernunnos_: got the problem because my device was dead...
[00:41] <ikonia> !md5 > Cernunnos_
[00:41] <cdcdcdc> anyone know how to configure upnp plugin in rhythmbox so it transcodes? i've searched up and down...
[00:41] <Chaos2358> XiD|Lap, do you know about editing .config files?
[00:42] <XiD|Lap> Chaos2358 thats a rather vague question don't you think? ;)
[00:42] <Cernunnos_> ty
[00:42] <sparpa> hello
[00:42] <intrader> Anyone, I am stuck in .profile I added 'VISUALWORKS=some-existing-path'. Then I start bash, but I get blank to echo $VISUALWORKS. What gives? :(
[00:42] <yeats> agentgasmask: have you tried right clicking and "Save Link As..."?
[00:42] <sosaited> pavucontrol doesn't seem to work in Maverick for me. It shows the name of the applications but doesn't show the sound meter bar and this doesn't allow me to change the recording input to monitor for internal audio
[00:42] <XiD|Lap> intrader have you tried a setenv $VISUALWORKS
[00:42] <Slix`> I'm pretty new to Ubuntu. There's a ton fo things I don't really understand about it and Linux, especially using the commandline properly (and easily). Is there any central place I can learn about all of this?
[00:42] <k-rad> is there a maverick speed tweaks url somewhere out there that is decent ?
[00:42] <shcherbak> agentgasmask: evince is dealing with pdf, means you need to download/save and open with document viewer
[00:42] <ikonia> Slix`: help.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <yeats> intrader: did you source .profile after changing it?
[00:42] <sparpa> !list
[00:43] <ikonia> k-rad: no
[00:43] <yeats> sparpa: do you have a support question?
[00:43] <DrManhattan> is that "ubuntu one"?
[00:43] <k-rad> ikonia, thank you :/  :)
[00:43] <sparpa> i need help im new
[00:43] <unitedpotsmokers> guys, i installed wine application, but where is the menu?
[00:43] <yeats> sparpa: just ask you question - someone may be able to help
[00:44] <shcherbak> sparpa: go on!
[00:44] <Chaos2358> XiD|Lap, lol yea sorry ok here it is i am trying to setup MIniDlna on my ubuntu 10.10 i have everything done but editing the .config file to "point" to my media files. when i open the .config file it gives me something like instructions on how to prepend the destination but i am not exactlly sure where to input or"change" this if you like i can send you a pm of the .config contents which isnt much
[00:44] <XiD|Lap> Slix` honestly the best way to learn about the os is just to tool around in it. start clicking on everything and see what it does. also google 'basic linux command line' or some sort to learn the ultra basics, like cd, pwd, ls, cp, etc
[00:44] <sparpa> !list
[00:44] <Connor1> Is Ubuntu 10.4 using ext3 or 4?
[00:44] <kitrana> guess i will have to settle for magic lamp. still not as cool as windows burning down when closed or minimized
[00:44] <intrader> yeats, I thought that simply saying variable=... would work. Just the same, when I say 'setenv VISUALWORKS=...'
[00:44] <blacksh33p> Slix`: or just search for simple bash tutorials
[00:44] <Connor1> Please tell me 3...
[00:45] <F0sterO4> evening
[00:45] <ikonia> Cernunnos_: default is 4
[00:45] <ikonia> oops
[00:45] <Connor1> Hmm...
[00:45] <ikonia> Connor1: default is 4
[00:45] <XiD|Lap> Chaos2358 go ahead and send it to me in a pm
[00:45] <shcherbak> kitrana: look (in launchpad) for compis extras
[00:45] <rww> Connor1: 10.04 by default, but it can use ext3 too.
[00:45] <k-rad> Connor1, i believe 10.04 is when ext4 first made it
[00:45] <F0sterO4> does anyone knows how to set up a range of ip?s on a vlan on ubuntu without having to enter each manually?
[00:45] <k-rad> Connor1, my recommendation is ext4 unless you choose to boot another linux os, and share the same /home directrory.  ymmv
[00:45] <Cernunnos_> ikonia: default is 4 =P
[00:46] <mekos> Hi all: is there a difference between apt-get and aptitude?  thanks
[00:46] <ikonia> F0sterO4: what do you mean ?
[00:46] <Connor1> k-rad I'm trying to figure out which partition is ubuntu/crunchbang.
[00:46] <agentgasmask> shcherbak: Thanks for you help. It is magicly working now! :)
[00:46] <DrManhattan> for christs sake I've disabled 4 things and I STILL can't get this stupid mail notification off
[00:47] <blacksh33p> mekos: apt-get is deprecated as far as i know
[00:47] <DrManhattan> can Anyone please help me turn it off
[00:47] <agentgasmask> yeats: thanks, it's magicly working now. :)
[00:47] <Chaos2358> XiD|Lap, thank you
[00:47] <mekos> blacksh33p: deprecated? what means this?  thanks
[00:47] <yeats> agentgasmask: great!
[00:48] <XiD|Lap> Chaos2358 check pm
[00:48] <blacksh33p> mekos: old stuff :)aptitude is recommended now
[00:48] <k-rad> Connor1, if your kernels are intact the crunchbang kernels should be prefixed as such you can boot into a live usb and mount your root directories on your dual boot linux install, and see what you can find there as far as determinating installation .locales
[00:48] <DrManhattan> oh now it's a chat notification using the mail icon - lovely
[00:48] <mekos> blacksh33p: thank you! I get it now
[00:48] <yeats> blacksh33p: apt-get is not deprecated - it's just another APT option :-)
[00:48] <DrManhattan> can anyone tell me how to turn this thing off or at least point me towards a straight volume control applet so I can turn the default applet off?
[00:48] <maxownz> when I run nmap targeted at my server, it quickly skips over everything and says it can't find anything open. is that normal? some sort of security feature from ubuntu server?
[00:48] <Connor1> k-rad I deleted the ext3 parittion
[00:48] <Connor1> Partition*
[00:49] <DrManhattan> I honestly can't believe this is that hard to accomplish and i'm sort of disappointed this isnt easier in ubuntu.
[00:49] <intrader> yeats, when I say 'setenv VISUALWORKS "something"' still does not work
[00:49] <blacksh33p> yeats: yea.... but the most guys recommend aptitude 'cause its newer :)
[00:49] <dragon> I had an ongoing upgrade on a server that I managed to lose console control of. I came across a file keep/overwrite prompt, so I dropped to a shell to examine the situation, then hit Ctrl+C and ended up closing do-release-upgrade process and getting back to the console where I started the upgrade. Now dpkg is running but cannot proceed without clearing the prompt that I cannot see. What do?
[00:49] <k-rad> Connor1, without knowing what ext3 partition you speak of i really can't help you but they forbid me to give crunchbang help here
[00:49] <Connor1> Sucks for me
[00:49] <Connor1> k-rad they're both Ubuntu who cares.
[00:50] <rayzr_bern> just out of curiosity, anyone trying out any new exciting OSes?
[00:50] <k-rad> Connor1, they do.
[00:50] <yeats> blacksh33p: it's six in one half-dozen the other - I typically use apt-get, but they work about the same
[00:50] <ikonia> Connor1: the channel policy is ubuntu support here - crunchbang support in the crunchbang channel
[00:50] <Connor1> Oh well
[00:50] <Connor1> Rules were meant to be broken
[00:50] <yeats> intrader: you're setting this variable in the .profile file, right?
[00:50] <ikonia> Connor1: no they are not
[00:50] <k-rad> rayzr_bern, i would lke to give opensolaris a shot, just for the heck of it
[00:50] <Connor1> ikonia then why are they called rules?
[00:50] <mekos> yeats: blacksh33p:  I can use either then yes?
[00:50] <yeats> mekos: yes
[00:50] <_dennister> is there a channel for openoffice questions? I'm having an issue with the thesaurus
[00:50] <rayzr_bern> i have a laptop running win7.....i know.....and right now i'm on my netbook running ubuntu 10.10 with macbuntu theme....pretty slick....
[00:51] <ikonia> Connor1: so you know they are rules of the channel,
[00:51] <blacksh33p> mekos: doesn't really matter today :)
[00:51] <ikonia> !guidelines > Connor1
[00:51] <yeats> mekos: try both out for different things - you'll get a feel for the difference
[00:51] <ikonia> rayzr_bern: this channel is for ubuntu support only, please
[00:51] <rayzr_bern> oh....
[00:51] <k-rad> Connor1, rules are broken all the time, they single out certain people more than they do others, but the ubuntu official rule is, no non-ubuntu support here
[00:51] <rayzr_bern> ok, i'll rephrase....
[00:51] <mekos> yeats: I will try out both - thanks for everything..
[00:51] <ikonia> _dennister: #openoffice.org
[00:51] <rayzr_bern> lol
[00:51] <intrader> yeats, yes at the end of the .profile I say 'setenv VISUALWORKS="/home/intrader"'
[00:51] <_dennister> ikonia: thx
[00:51] <blacksh33p> mekos: yeats read description: apt-get hast super cow powers and aptitude doesnt :)
[00:51] <mekos> take care all - happy ubuntuing..
[00:51] <sheldon> yyyelllow
[00:52] <Connor1> ubottu do not query me >:C
[00:52] <sheldon> hi there
[00:52] <rayzr_bern> i need support with ubuntu in the process of switching to another OS....lol
[00:52] <yeats> intrader: so when you do the command 'source ~/.profile' and then 'echo $VISUALWORKS', it's still an empty variable?
[00:52] <sheldon> which os rayzr?
[00:52] <ikonia> rayzr_bern: ask your ubuntu questions, and the channel will try to help
[00:52] <rayzr_bern> none come to mind....any suggestions?
[00:52] <kindari|work> when trying to mount an entry in fstab (using sshfs) im getting "read: connection reset by peer". Ive setup passwordless login using my keys and that works, I own the target mounting directory. :/
[00:53] <sheldon> well
[00:53] <ikonia> rayzr_bern: you need to ask a question to get support
[00:53] <sheldon> there are some good os apart from ubuntu
[00:53] <sheldon> i like fedora for example
[00:53] <sheldon> or you can try opensuse
[00:53] <rayzr_bern> suse is nice.
[00:53] <sparpa> how can get file x download film??
[00:53] <dragon> !enter | sheldon
[00:53] <ikonia> sheldon: this channel is ubuntu support only, please
[00:53] <ikonia> rayzr_bern: stop,
[00:53] <sheldon> though i found it, believe me or not, more unstable thna ubuntu
[00:53] <rayzr_bern> sorry ikonia.
[00:53] <EpicCyndaquil> I'm trying to run Ubuntu on USB via PLoP, anyone want to help?
[00:53] <blacksh33p> warg... suse...
[00:53] <ikonia> sheldon: stop, - ubuntu support only in this channel. Please.
[00:53] <EpicCyndaquil> install, rather
[00:53] <k-rad> sheldon, how does opensuse's gnome look ?  anyway similiar to the ubuntu "traditional ubuntu" layout ?
[00:54] <DrManhattan> never mind
[00:54] <DrManhattan> I apologize for the rant
[00:54] <dragon> ikonia: is there a place where I could get a serious question answered?
[00:54] <rayzr_bern> hahaha@ikonia
[00:54] <sheldon> what is your question?=
[00:54] <ikonia> dragon: what's up ?
[00:54] <blacksh33p> dragly|away: just ask :)
[00:54] <blacksh33p> dragly|away: fc
[00:54] <blacksh33p> dragon: just ask :)
[00:55] <dragon> I had an ongoing upgrade on a server that I managed to lose console control of. I came across a file keep/overwrite prompt, so I dropped to a shell to examine the situation, then hit Ctrl+C and ended up closing do-release-upgrade process and getting back to the console where I started the upgrade. Now dpkg is running but cannot proceed without clearing the prompt that I cannot see. What do?
[00:55] <intrader> yeats, the source command responds 'No command 'setenv' found, did you mean....'
[00:55] <ikonia> dragon: that sounds a real mess
[00:55] <rayzr_bern> this room's lame....l8r ikonia.
[00:56] <blacksh33p> ikonia: hehe nice one *g
[00:56] <yeats> intrader: can you paste your .profile at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ?
[00:56] <intrader> yeats, the shell is bash
[00:56] <dragon> ikonia: yes, it's hard to predict whether it'll come back up on next reboot. Can't afford to have this server down. Where do I start?
[00:56] <Belial`> it's funnier because none of them have autorejoin on.
[00:56] <ikonia> dragon: I'd kill the process, and re-start it
[00:56] <Jygga> how do i get du to display the total size for each subdirectory of the current directory ?
[00:56] <dragon> ikonia: kill dpkg?
[00:56] <dragon> I'll attempt that.
[00:57] <ikonia> dragon: it's a risk, but that's how I'd do it
[00:57] <ikonia> Jygga: du does sub-dir's by default
[00:57] <shcherbak> dragon: is dpkg still running?
[00:57] <Jygga> then my du has some wierd defaults
[00:57] <intrader> yeats, I will do so - I must go to another machine to get the pastebin command
[00:57] <ndxtg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1619428 <------------ help me!!!!
[00:57] <ikonia> Jygga: du -h .
[00:57] <ikonia> ndxtg: please don't do that, ask a question
[00:57] <dragon> shcherbak: yes, and it's awaiting my input, which I can't provide.
[00:57] <LoganJRuff> !ask | ndxtg
[00:58] <Jygga> thats giving all subdirectories including subdirs of the subdirs
[00:58] <Josh__> back
[00:58] <treyk41> what package should I install to get the latest stable version of wine? Running Maverick
[00:58] <Jygga> i just want the immediate subdirs of the dir im in (but including their subdirs)
[00:58] <ndxtg> ubuntu 10.10 32 bits, wifi Intel Pro  3945ABG keeps dropping, tried both WPA and WPA2 network, does anyone know how to fix?
[00:58] <Josh__> nope
[00:58] <ndxtg> cool
[00:59] <ikonia> Jygga: -S
[00:59] <shcherbak> dragon: have you peeked in logs? what stage of upgrade you lost control?
[00:59] <Jygga> that would explicitly not include the size of the subdirs
[00:59] <ikonia> Jygga: --max-depth=1
[00:59] <Jygga> same thing
[01:00] <blacksh33p> Jygga: ls -lh works too
[01:00] <Josh__> :D
[01:00] <Josh__> bacxk
[01:00] <dragon> shcherbak: I dropped to a shell to examing the apt-cacher-ng config files. Somewhere in the middle of configuration?
[01:00] <node808> is this the best OS?
[01:00] <ikonia> Jygga: --max-depth=2
[01:00] <ikonia> node808: that's your opion and offtopic here
[01:01] <shcherbak> dragon: have you tried retty?
[01:01] <Jygga> but i want the size of all subdirectories summed up in the size of the immediate subdirectories ^^
[01:01] <Jygga> not just 2 deep
[01:01] <dragon> shcherbak: no, I'll give it a shot.
[01:01] <Jygga> :)
[01:01] <intrader> yeats, here is the .profile contents http://paste.ubuntu.com/530371/
[01:01] <ikonia> Jygga: then du won't work
[01:02] <Josh__> wow
[01:02] <dragon> shcherbak: what package contains retty?
[01:02] <Jygga> any idea what i should use?
[01:02] <Josh__> Idk
[01:02] <ikonia> Jygga: a shell script
[01:02] <Josh__> maybe
[01:02] <Jygga> hm but i remember using du for just that purpose Oo
[01:03] <blacksh33p> Jygga: there's a graphical tool too, but can't remember the name....
[01:03] <Jygga> its a server
[01:03] <_dennister> openoffice.org channel seems dead...anyone here know how to get the thesaurus function working? e.g. I know it works here for new documents, but as soon as I start formatting a new one and pasting stuff from an old doc into a new one, it gets greyed out
[01:03] <Jygga> and i know what you mean but cant remember the name either ;)
[01:04] <Jygga> pretty colored boxes
[01:04] <blacksh33p> Jygga: yea...
[01:04] <dragon> shcherbak: I don't have retty installed, and I can't install it since an installation is currently in progress.
[01:04] <yeats> intrader: change the line to VISUALWORKS="/home/intrader/Projects/Smalltalk/Cincom/vw7.7nc" (no setenv)
[01:04] <Pici> Jygga: du --max-depth still fetches the total size for subdirectories, but won't display all of them.  that sounds like exactly what you want.
[01:05] <Juancho> hi
[01:05] <blackshirt> good morning all...
[01:05] <Josh__> hi
[01:05] <Jygga> hmmm ill pipe that into sort and then a file to read it ... works too ;) thank you all
[01:06] <Josh__> name
[01:06] <xrdodrx> blackchook, good night c:
[01:06] <Josh__> testing
[01:06] <tinhead> I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 10.10. I cannot login, it keeps complaining: Unable to cd to /home/user. So, I used the live cd to set a root password. Strace shows EACCES on execve() when I try to 'su user' from root and EACCES on chdir() when I try to 'login user'. Upgrade did not help. Anyone faced similar issues? Any pointers?
[01:06] <regspalding> figured it out, minimal install needs acpi=force added as kernel parameter to enable usb keyboard
[01:07] <Random832> tinhead: ls -ld /home/user
[01:07] <Josh__> clear
[01:07] <Josh__> help
[01:07] <Josh__> clear
[01:07] <dragon> maybe this room needs more IRC ops.
[01:07] <Cernunnos_> Josh__, use /
[01:07] <shcherbak> dragon: busy, sorry. i do think that there is web with proper instruction, but last time i was checking most of the system by modified/accessed. one moment
[01:07] <Josh__> I know
[01:08] <tinhead> drwxr-xr-x, belongs to user,user
[01:09] <dragon> shcherbak: in worst case I can kill dpkg and run apt-get install.
[01:09] <dragon> no idea how far it'd get though.
[01:09] <intrader> yeats, :) success with this test, however if I start `bash`, the echo gives me blank. Why?
[01:11] <tinhead> Random832: drwxr-xr-x, belongs to user,user
[01:11] <TheAlien> hi, running ubuntu 10.04 on a remote server, it was working great, updated as far as it will go. then i installed gnome for use over vnc...openvpn...asterix. all seemed ok until reboot. now i cant even get a ping. i go in thru rescue, not much obvious in logs that i can see
[01:12] <TheAlien> any ideas or quesses as to what i could have done to brick the install, and how to undo it?
[01:12] <jmyles> Can I specify the location of a RSA key in the ssh command?
[01:12] <commodore> Anyone who used Awesome WM?
[01:12] <yeats> intrader: I'm not really an expert on this...  see this for an explanation of which files do what: http://stefaanlippens.net/bashrc_and_others
[01:13] <intrader> yeats, I thought that .profile would be executed when bash starts. I will look at the link
[01:13] <commodore> ds
[01:13] <commodore> gfsd
[01:13] <commodore> gfds
[01:13] <commodore> fgf
[01:13] <commodore> fd
[01:13] <FloodBot3> commodore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:13] <commodore> gdf
[01:14] <commodore> vx
[01:14] <commodore> v
[01:14] <commodore> xv
[01:14] <commodore> x
[01:14] <commodore> v
[01:14] <commodore> vc
[01:14] <FloodBot3> commodore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:14] <commodore> vx
[01:14] <commodore> vdf
[01:14] <commodore> gdf
[01:14] <commodore> gdf
[01:14] <commodore> g
[01:14] <FloodBot3> commodore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:14] <TheAlien> WHY
[01:15] <commodore> sd
[01:15] <commodore> f
[01:15] <commodore> dsf
[01:15] <commodore> s
[01:15] <commodore> df
[01:15] <FloodBot3> commodore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:15] <commodore> sd
[01:15] <TheAlien> lol
[01:15] <shcherbak> dragon: tbh, not certain.
[01:15] <Pici> hrm.
[01:17] <hypatia> cat on keyboard?
[01:18] <Slix`> I installed tor through the repositories. How do I find out what uid it runs as, and does it always run under that uid?
[01:19] <intrader> yeats, I still don't know. It is very confusing - 'login shell', 'interactive shell', interactive shells that is not a login shell, etc.
[01:20] <dragon> ikonia, shcherbak: killed dpkg and ran `sudo dpkg --configure -a`, installation continuing as expected.
[01:20] <Cernunnos_> hi, since it's late here, around how many time for install + partitionning ubuntu please?
[01:21] <LoganJRuff> Cernunnos_, 25 minutes
[01:21] <Cernunnos_> thanks
[01:21] <LoganJRuff> Cernunnos_, always a pleasure
[01:22] <blacksh33p> netinstall on 56k *hrhr xD
[01:24] <Nathan_BS> I am trying to install Ubuntu onto my old computer through a CD drive, but the startup system isn't recognizing the iso file on the CD. Can somebody help?
[01:24] <yeats> intrader: you might benefit from reading up on this before continuing - here's a Google Books link to a book on the basics: http://goo.gl/noCf2
[01:25] <TheAlien> Nathan_BS: it sounds like u buern
[01:25] <TheAlien> burned the iso file as a file
[01:25] <TheAlien> you need to burn it as an image
[01:26] <Nathan_BS> I used infrarecorder to burn the file onto the CD, like the Ubuntu site told me to
[01:26] <Nathan_BS> Did I have to change any settings?
[01:26] <intrader> yeats, when I set VISUALWORKS in .bashrc, it works. I will check out the link.
[01:27] <TheAlien> oh, i dunno then. never used that before
[01:27] <TheAlien> but if you look at the files on the cd and all you see is your one .iso file, its wrong
[01:27] <yeats> Nathan_BS: when you say that the startup system isn't recognizing the file, what exactly is happening?  Does your computer skip the CD and boot into your OS? or is there an error?
[01:27] <TheAlien> the iso file is a disk image with lots of files
[01:28] <yeats> intrader: good
[01:28] <intrader> yeats, thanks for the help
[01:28] <Cernunnos_> for those who where here for that : http://paste.ubuntu.com/530333/ seems to be an image problem, seems to work with another iage
[01:29] <yeats> intrader: sure - good luck!
[01:29] <Cernunnos_> *image
[01:29] <Nathan_BS> Okay first I had to change the startup order from SATA to CD-ROM because it was checking the SATa first and finding windows, but then it kept saying it could not find an OS to start up on
[01:30] <Cernunnos_> well nevermind it doesn't work in fact lol
[01:30] <yeats> Nathan_BS: might be a bad burn... do you have more CDs?
[01:31] <hblount> hi. is there a way to mount an image in wine so it is recognized by game in wine?
[01:32] <Nathan_BS> I don't believe so. I have some DVD-RW's in the other room, though. A DVD would work right?
[01:32] <yeats> yes, it should work fine
[01:33] <Cernunnos_> Nathan_BS, I have a similar prolem if the disc is too thin or bad quality or so...
[01:33] <pepperjack> hblount: i think you could mount it to /media/cdrom or whatever then symlink that to ~/.wine/dosdevices/d:  or something
[01:33] <Cernunnos_> Nathan_BS, you can also remove the HDD from the boot order using x in the BIOS boot menu
[01:34] <Slix`> ipfilter seems to come with Ubuntu. How do I enable it?
[01:34] <Nathan_BS> I've already removed the HDD drive via the setup utility. I had to in order for it to attempt to start from the CD
[01:35] <pepperjack> hblount: oh. simpler method will be to run winecfg then add a drive letter pointing to the mount point
[01:35] <Cernunnos_> ok guys, I had an error trying to install ubuntu, I downloaded a different image and burnt it on another CD, i still have the first part of this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/530333/ the second part is gone
[01:35] <Cernunnos_> now i have access to ubuntu menu, but it'l do that on installng and trying ubuntu...
[01:36] <Cernunnos_> what should I do?
[01:36] <w3rd__> hey guys is there a way to do a diff on two files and append the data to a text file?
[01:36] <yeats> w3rd__: diff file1 file2 >> text.file
[01:37] <shcherbak> w3rd__: diff x y > z
[01:37] <w3rd__> thats what i have been doing
[01:37] <w3rd__> but it only shows the redirection of the files
[01:37] <tom1> i just reformatted my system and am trying to dual boot windows with ubuntu 10.10. It says I cannot create more than 4 primary partitions (i am trying to make a data partition)
[01:37] <w3rd__> i need to to trunk the data that is the same
[01:37] <w3rd__> and only output the data that is different
[01:37] <yeats> w3rd__: note that > will overwrite text.file and >> will append text to it
[01:37] <w3rd__> do i need to use sed?
[01:37] <w3rd__> to filter the differences
[01:38] <TheAlien> how can i see and change what drivers are loading? i want to go on the assumption that its crashing on loading a driver early thats conflicting..
[01:39] <Slix`> I'm sorry, I mean iptables'
[01:39] <pepperjack> TheAlien: gui way or cli?
[01:39] <Nathan_BS> Okay just curious... If I burned the iso file onto a CD-RW, will I be able to delete the file and redo the entire burn?
[01:39] <TheAlien> cli since this thing isnt getting near boot.. itll be me with a remote rescue type system editing files
[01:40] <pepperjack> lsmod to see the modules  then add the module to blacklist to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[01:42] <jeaton> im trying to mount an original xbox memory card in ubuntu, through a usb adapter.  How do I do that?
[01:43] <Blue1> jeaton: prolly:  sudo blkid           that will give you what devices are present - then:  sudo mount /dev/sdx /mnt  (whatever it returns)
[01:43] <pepperjack> jeaton: may help, http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Mounting_FATX_partitions_HOWTO
[01:45] <Slix`> Hmm... a script I put in /etc/init.d/ didn't seem to execute.
[01:45] <TheAlien> pepperjack: you know of any way to see modules that will load on a system thats not running? im using a rescue system on a remote server
[01:45] <TheAlien> so i cant see the console, and its as if im running a livecd instead of the installed os. i can look at the disks but that os isnt whats running right now
[01:46] <JackyChao> anyone who study fortran?/
[01:46] <Cernunnos_> what does "check memory" on install menu please?
[01:47] <viewer> if I make a symlink, do I have to do it every time my machine boots (or put it in a startup file) or is it permanent after you first make it?
[01:48] <XuMuK> its permanemt
[01:49] <sechrist> Is there a tool like the BSD "script" that has more features or something on linux?
[01:49] <greezmunkey> Cernunnos_: sounds like a memory check to me. I usually ignore, or bypass that.
[01:49] <sechrist> the one that's in utils-ng is pretty nerfed
[01:49] <viewer> ok thanks, what if I am making a symlink from /media/external/ to ~/Desktop/Folder/ will it still work? given that the external drive has to be remounted when the machine is booted?
[01:49] <pitlimit> I want to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu... but i'd like to share hard drive space
[01:50] <pitlimit> can anyone tell me how i might do this?
[01:50] <viewer> ie what happens to symlinks to mounted media when the media is removed?
[01:50] <shcherbak> pitlimit: make extre fat partition
[01:50] <aeMaeth> pitlimit, if you dual boot you can read the windows 7 partition, not sure if windows 7 can read the linux side
[01:50] <pitlimit> hm
[01:50] <Blue1> aeMaeth: nope windows can't see linux
[01:50] <pitlimit> two answers!
[01:51] <XuMuK> pitlimit: you can see win partition on ubuntu, but not viceversa..
[01:51] <aeMaeth> oh ya, and you could make a 3rd "data" drive if you want
[01:51] <pitlimit> oh that's weird
[01:51] <pitlimit> i thought people do it al the time
[01:51] <shcherbak> pitlimit: make extra fat partition, and use links to have fast accces
[01:51] <greezmunkey> pitlimit: the easiest (safest for your win7) is a WUBI install, goog that 'ubuntu wubi install'
[01:51] <pitlimit> why is it safest, greezmunkey ?
[01:51] <aeMaeth> there was a program for xp that was experimental for reading ext3
[01:51] <tom1> could someone help me with a dual boot/data partition question please?
[01:51] <blackshirt> pitlimit: windows can read ext3 linux partition with third party tool
[01:51] <Blue1> greezmunkey: I dual boot, and have no issues
[01:51] <pitlimit> i was just downloading the regular one right now...
[01:51] <Blue1> tom1: go
[01:51] <tom1> I have too many primary partitions (and i don't really know what i'm doing)
[01:51] <greezmunkey> Blue1: not the point.
[01:51] <blackshirt> tom1: what you mean ??
[01:52] <tom1> i have windows 7 (with system reserve), ubuntu 10.10 with swap partition
[01:52] <tom1> so i can't create the data partition (can't have more than 4 primary partitions)
[01:52] <Blue1> greezmunkey: I always live in fear that windows will overwrite the partition.
[01:52] <greezmunkey> pitlimit: safe because you install within win7. If you decide it works with your hardware, etc. you can dig in deeped, and repartition.
[01:52] <greezmunkey> s/deeped/deeper
[01:53] <Blue1> tom1: nuke the ubuntu partition, and make that an extended partition
[01:53] <pitlimit> greezmunkey: you mean for the sharing of the partitions, right?
[01:53] <blackshirt> Blue1: i think..we are on the same situation
[01:53] <pitlimit> or for ALL ubuntu dual-boots with windows?
[01:53] <pitlimit> 7
[01:53] <Blue1> blackshirt: ok
[01:53] <aeMaeth> how do i list a directory into one line per directory or file?
[01:53] <tom1> which setting should i pick at setup? just "extended"?
[01:53] <shcherbak> tom1: / - primary, swap, /data /var /home - logical
[01:54] <tom1> shcherbak...sorry, translation please?
[01:54] <greezmunkey> pitlimit: kind of. you would create a partition for win7, and some seperate ones for ubuntu. Then there is the whole partition resizing thing...
[01:54] <pitlimit> greezmunkey: i read that it will do it for me?
[01:54] <pitlimit> the install disk?
[01:55] <shcherbak> only boot partition need to be phisical, rest of system can be placed on extended partition. you can go further and read...
[01:55] <pitlimit> greezmunkey: i really don't understand what you're saying
[01:56] <greezmunkey> pitlimit: do your homework first! Back up your win7 partition second.
[01:56] <tom1> so windows (and reserve), ubuntu and data will be primary?
[01:56] <greezmunkey> pitlimit: what doing your homework on partitioning, and / or backing up your win7 partition???
[01:56] <pitlimit> greezmunkey: you really aren't making sense
[01:56] <pitlimit> i'm not trying to be rude, but you're really not saying anything that i can decipher
[01:56] <shcherbak> tom1: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[01:56] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, please, be polite.
[01:56] <jkazana> aeMaeth: use find and search for all dir or files, it should print each one on one line
[01:56] <pitlimit> tjackGNU: i am, i am really not trying to be rude
[01:57] <pitlimit> but i cannot make heads or tails of what is being explained
[01:57] <hxcjonnysniper> okay so i need help with direct x. i keep getting a direct x error when i open call of duty. i have been trying to fix this ALL day. someone help me?
[01:57] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, do no try; just don't be rude.
[01:57] <greezmunkey> pitlimit: do you know how to manipulate partitions on a computer?
[01:57] <shcherbak> pitlimit: are both systems already installed, do you have place (unpartitioned) on your hard drive?
[01:57] <tom1> so only windows and the data need to be primary?
[01:57] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, what is your *really* problem?
[01:57] <blackshirt> hxcjonnysniper: are you sure, ? what you mean with direct x..i think it's windows-based
[01:58] <pitlimit> yes greezmunkey
[01:58] <pitlimit> i read that the ubuntu install disk will do it for me
[01:58] <pitlimit> shcherbak: i am just starting the process now
[01:58] <pitlimit> tjackGNU: greezmunkey told me to use the WUBI install because it's safer
[01:58] <pitlimit> at least for windows 7
[01:59] <pitlimit> but I don't understand why the WUBI install is safer?
[01:59] <aeMaeth> neat jkazana, is there a way to control that for the directory it's in?   say, if i only want it to list /home/user/Documents/ if i run it in documents?
[01:59] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, why wubi? you do not have free space to create more partitions?
[01:59] <greezmunkey> pitlimit: ok, then all you need to read up on is what partition requirements ubuntu requires (so much for the homework), next, and before you do any of it, back up your win7 partition. That's it!
[01:59] <shcherbak> pitlimit: ok, can you tell me how your hard drive look like? space used by Win7 etc.
[01:59] <hxcjonnysniper> i mounted and installed call of duty black ops and now when i go to run it an error pops up that says "direct x encountered an unrecoverable error" "check the readme for possible solutions"
[01:59] <TheAlien> So... no ideas for how to see/change what drivers load at startup on an os filesystem not currently being executed (ie examining what loads on an installed system from a live disk)?
[01:59] <EpicCyndaquil> WUBI installs within your Windows partiion, and can be uninstalled eaasier pitlimit
[01:59] <blackshirt> pitlimit: i think safe to try..not for daily use...
[02:00] <pitlimit> why blackshirt ?
[02:00] <pitlimit> i don't want to use the WUBI installation
[02:00] <hxcjonnysniper> blackshirt:i mounted and installed call of duty black ops and now when i go to run it an error pops up that says "direct x encountered an unrecoverable error" "check the readme for possible solutions"
[02:00] <pitlimit> am I ok if I just do a regular disk install?
[02:00] <tom1> is LVM the same as an extended partition?
[02:00] <guest34324> hey, I have a wubi installation, is there a way I can access files within ubuntu from windows?
[02:00] <pitlimit> My understanding is that the Ubuntu install disc will handle the install for me
[02:00] <pitlimit> oops the repartition
[02:00] <meerkatmansion> Hi, I've just got Maverick Meerkat to run... can someone tell me how to fix the fonts? They look really 'fat' for some reason. I've installed ttf-mscorefonts and Tahoma from my Windows partition, but I can't seem to make it look slimmer
[02:00] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, you could loose the Windows 7 partition. Take care.
[02:00] <greezmunkey> pitlimit: I suggested wubi so that you can try it out on your PC. If that goes well, and everything works you should be able to confidently set it up on a dedicated partition.
[02:01] <shcherbak> tom1: lvm is big step ahead
 sure, just specify where to start:   find /path/to/search -type d
[02:01] <pitlimit> greezmunkey: thanks
[02:01] <blackshirt> pitlimit: wubi placed ubuntu system on windows partition likes other program/software under windows, you can uninstall it...not on dedicated partition..
[02:01] <pitlimit> I don't want to try it
[02:01] <xangua> !dualboot | pitlimit
[02:01] <pitlimit> I just want to plunge in :)
[02:01] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, it's not so "peace of cake" like you're imagining....
[02:01] <viewer> whats going on with the temporary files that torrent clients make that report file sizes that they don't actually occupy or take up on the drive?
 do a man find for more
[02:01] <tom1> shcherbak: sorry, just to be sure of the order
[02:01] <viewer> how is that possible
[02:01] <pitlimit> tjackGNU: I've done it before with XP... is it dif for Windows 7?
[02:01] <shcherbak> tom1: go on
[02:01] <tom1> shcherbak: do i create the ntfs data partition before doing the linux install?
[02:01] <pitlimit> I've heard WUBI has overhead
[02:02] <tham> oi
[02:02] <yeats> pitlimit: are you asking whether it's safe to dual boot Win7/Ubuntu?
[02:02] <shcherbak> tom1: you shaoud install windows before linux, otherwise you may need to reinstall grub
[02:02] <S0LIDUS> nickserv identify hercules1
[02:03] <aeMaeth> jkazana, thanks
[02:03] <tom1> okay, i have windows and linux newly installed right now
[02:03] <tom1> can i just have ubuntu and swap share a partition?
[02:03] <pitlimit> yeats - i'm just going to do an install now
[02:03] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, not a little bit. Just one thing: if you have free (UNPARTITIONED) space on your HD, Ubuntu Installation process will take care of it all.  And I mean free space on your HD, not in your "C:" partition...
[02:04] <yeats> pitlimit: it is safe - just back up Win7 first and ask here if you hit trouble
[02:04] <greezmunkey> pitlimit: the cool thing about a wubi install is that you can get things set up on ubuntu without the pain of partitioning up front. Then back up your config files for use once you decide to partition and reinstall. That, and it lets you jump right in without the potential of destroying your win7 setup.
[02:04] <pitlimit> greezmunkey: but as a regular linux user, I don't want the overhead that WUBI creates
[02:04] <StevenZhang> hello
[02:04] <pitlimit> thanks tjackGNU  point noted - I've got a ton of free space
[02:04] <blackshirt> StevenZhang: hello
[02:04] <guest34324> hey, I have a wubi installation, is there a way I can access files within ubuntu from windows?
[02:04] <StevenZhang> help me please
[02:05] <StevenZhang> i am trying to install GNUstep-devel
[02:05] <hxcjonnysniper> so no one knows what to do with this direct x error?
[02:05] <StevenZhang> yes, i get it, but , when i am trying to start ProjectCenter
[02:05] <StevenZhang> I get Segment Fault
[02:05] <greezmunkey> pitlimit: I had to assume that you were not a regular linux user up front, for that I am sorry - but it does beg the question "why ask about it in the first place"...
[02:05] <pitlimit> greezmunkey: do you even remember my question?
[02:06] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, then boot with the Ubuntu CD install and make exactly like you did with WinXP.  But READ carefully what's on screen.
[02:06] <pitlimit> thanks tjackGNU
[02:06] <greezmunkey> pitlimit:  pitlimit> I want to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu... but i'd like to share hard drive space
[02:06] <StevenZhang> any idea
[02:06] <greezmunkey> 17:50 < pitlimit> can anyone tell me how i might do this?
[02:06] <pitlimit> right
[02:06] <meerkatmansion> So uh.... no one finds Ubuntu default fonts ugly eh
[02:06] <pitlimit> there ya go.. thus my question
[02:06] <tom1> Blue1: what did you mean by nuke ubuntu and put it on an extended partition?
[02:07] <pitlimit> my question had nothing to do about linux directly
[02:07] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, you cannot share space between Windows 7 (NTFS) and Linux (ext*)... It's just impossible.
[02:07] <blackshirt> hxcjonnysniper: i don't have experience with direct x on linux..
[02:07] <pitlimit> got it - I don't use windows that much, tjackGNU , so I'll probably just abandon the idea
[02:08] <Agent001> I got a problem with Empathy on ubuntu when I type "favorite" it hilight as incorrecct.
[02:08] <tjackGNU> blackshirt, that's because GNU/Linux doesn't have DirectX or whatsoever.
[02:08] <Slix`> Agent001: I think it's set to British English :P
[02:08] <greezmunkey> Agent001: maybe your language/location settings??
[02:08] <greezmunkey> Slix`: ;)
[02:08] <gg22> Due to the length and complexity of my situation I have posted my entire problem in a pastebin file> http://pastebin.com/CBA8p17k If anyone can help me in repairing my ubuntu OS it would be greatly appreciated.
[02:09] <blackshirt> pitlimit: linux, can acces windows parition directly, with vfat/ntfs-3g module.. windows can access ext2/ext linux partition but with adding third party software
[02:09] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, you can do this: make Ubuntu use ALL your hard drive for installation. And welcome to the free world! ;-)
[02:09] <Agent001> Oh wow.. it's fixed. Thanks guys
[02:09] <pitlimit> :)
[02:09] <pitlimit> I'll keep Windows just in case an emergency situation comes up =p
[02:09] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, Windows *is* an emergency itself....
[02:09] <blackshirt> tjackGNU: hxcjonnysniper ask about direct x error..maybe sound strange for me..i think he was using wine
[02:09] <greezmunkey> no kidding...
[02:10] <pitlimit> :)
[02:10] <pitlimit> well, mostly in case I have to run something for class on Windows... :)
[02:11] <tjackGNU> pitlimit, try install Ubuntu and make the partitioning, but DO NOT GO FURTHER (then no changes will be saved).  If you think that is the way, just go, man!  Try it.
[02:12] <tjackGNU> blackshirt, so ask him to go to Wine's channel...
[02:12] <tom1> shcherbak: can i just install ubuntu as logical off the live cd?
[02:13] <DuckMaestro> will the iso work on a dvd-r, or does it have to be cd-r?
[02:13] <blackshirt> tjackGNU: thank's bro..
[02:13] <tjackGNU> tom1, the only partition that need to be primary is '/' or '/boot'...
[02:13] <andrewpending> DuckMaestro: I installed from DVD-r so it should be fine.
[02:13] <tjackGNU> blackshirt, you are welcome.
[02:13] <StevenZhang> both dvd and cd will be ok
[02:14] <tom1> tjackGNU: does swap count as primary?
[02:14] <DuckMaestro> ty
[02:14] <wegue> I think  the virtualbox would be helpful
[02:14] <hjg> may be!
[02:14] <blackshirt> tom1: i don't think so
[02:14] <shcherbak> tom1: main partition should be phisical (it do contains bootloader)
[02:14] <tjackGNU> tom1, no... And if you have more than 2GB of RAM, do not create more than 1.0GB~1.5GB for /swap
[02:15] <wegue> when I first time try ubuntu I run it in virtualbox
[02:15] <tom1> i have 1) ntsf system reserve 2) windows 7 3) / ext4 4)extended (with linux-swap)
[02:15] <tom1> is this 4 primaries (gparted says so)
[02:15] <tom1> i have 4 GB of ram
[02:15] <tjackGNU> tom1, just do this: '/' as primary, '/swap' and '/home' as logical. It's done.
[02:15] <commodore> Wegue: Good for you.
[02:16] <shcherbak> tom1: which are primaries? win7 and?
[02:16] <commodore> Tom1: RAM does not matter.
[02:16] <tom1> i think the 100 MB system reserve that windows installs
[02:16] <tjackGNU> tom1, then '/swap' is just going to make ou waste space... Create a /swap of about 1.0GB at MAX....
[02:16] <greezmunkey> Swap can be on an extended partition, if you install from the cd and tell it to use "entire disk" it will place swap on an extended partition by default.
[02:16] <tjackGNU> commodore, explain yourself.
[02:16] <commodore> ???
[02:16] <shcherbak> tom1: whats 2... win7 reverse
[02:17] <tjackGNU> commodore, "ram does not matter."
[02:17] <commodore> He was explaining a partitioning issue, yet stated his RAM
[02:17] <shcherbak> tjackGNU: lol
[02:17] <tom1> 1) system reserved, 2) windows 7, 3) ubuntu, 4) "exended" with linux-swap under it
[02:18] <poutine> I have a 1.66ghz system, why does xboard start so large?
[02:18] <tom1> and i just want to make ntfs with my unallocated space i have left but have no partitions left
[02:18] <gg22> pastebin file> http://pastebin.com/CBA8p17k here is my problem in a pastebin thanks to anyone that can help.
[02:18] <tjackGNU> commodore, of course... With 4GB of RAM you will never use more than 1 GB of RAM... Just if you're using doing big workloads, like database and etc....
[02:18] <commodore> Only 4 primRy partitions allowed, tom1.
[02:19] <tom1> right, is swap primary?
[02:19] <commodore> It should be logical.
[02:19] <tom1> i want 1) windows reserve 2) windows 3) ubuntu 4) ntfs data partition
[02:19] <shcherbak> tom1: swapoff and well
[02:19] <commodore> I suggest deleting System Reserved
[02:19] <tom1> so did i just mess up the swap partition when i installed?
[02:19] <hblount> hi. anyone know if i can get updates for battle net (starcraft) within the game, or do i need to do something manually with wine?
[02:19] <commodore> Windows doesn't really need it.
[02:20] <commodore> Maybe.
[02:20] <tjackGNU> tom1, [1] S.R. [2] Win7, [3] /boot (ext3), [5] / (ext4) [6] /swap
[02:20] <tjackGNU> tom1, that's it.
[02:20] <Agent001> I dont think ubuntu supports starcraft 1 anymore, only starcraft 2.
[02:21] <tom1> tjackGNU: i would like my data partition to share between the two...that was a goal of me reformatting
[02:21] <wegue> "/"&"swap" that's my partition
[02:21] <blackshirt> gg22: are you set quota ??
[02:21] <tjackGNU> tom1, what do you mean by 'data partition'?
[02:22] <gg22> gg22: set quota ?? what do you mean?
[02:22] <shcherbak> tjackGNU: common for win and linux, ntfs
[02:22] <tom1> just a big ntfs partition that i'll keep all my files on so windows and ubuntu can both see it
[02:22] <blackshirt> gg22: your home on separate partition ??
[02:23] <tjackGNU> shcherbak, it's better create a FAT32 filesystem for this purpose.
[02:23] <commodore> hblount: refer to Wine's irc.
[02:23] <shcherbak> tjackGNU: I know, he does not
[02:23] <tjackGNU> tom1, create a FAT32 partition.
[02:23] <gg22> blackshirt: no My os is on my laptop harddrive but when I did that photo rec on my external drive last night i think it did something to screw up my partitions but I'm not 100% sure how or what exactly the problem is.
[02:23] <tom1> i need files larger than 4GB though
[02:23] <tjackGNU> shcherbak, so why do you does not answered him? o.O
[02:24] <commodore> ^_^
[02:24] <shcherbak> tjackGNU: I told him 15 minutes ago to make fat for both.
[02:24] <gg22> blackshirt: I do have dual boot also and i can safely say my windows is working fine despite my ubuntu's problem right now.
[02:24] <commodore> Who codes Python? lol. Anyone for 3.0?
[02:24] <tjackGNU> tom1, what about an ext2 partition? But in Windows you have to use ext2explorer (it's a tiny program....)
[02:25] <commodore> How about ditching Windows altogether. You know you want to.
[02:25] <commodore> xD
[02:25] <andrewpending> commodore: Haha!
[02:26] <tom1> tjackGNU: I'm sorry this has gotten complicated
[02:26] <tjackGNU> shcherbak, ok, sorry. I'm lost about all this questions about partitioning a hard drive... Seems like hey never used "format.exe" in their lifes.
[02:26] <blackshirt> gg22: your picture  showed a lot of free space.. is it right ??
[02:26] <tjackGNU> tom1, it's complicated 'cause you don't make any effort to explain with more details your problem...
[02:27] <tom1> tjackGNU: i've explained several times
[02:27] <tom1> tjackGNU: all i want is a big shared ntfs partition
[02:27] <tom1> tjackGNU: not ext2 or fat32
[02:27] <tjackGNU> tom1, you just asked, and asked, and asked... We need details.
[02:27] <tom1> tjackGNU: do you need more details?
[02:27] <tjackGNU> tom1, no.
[02:27] <gg22> gg22: I would say it is true since I can check my actual user account and it shows nowhere near the maximum amount of filling that partition up. I set aside like 285 Gb for linux then like 150 for windows.
[02:28] <tom1> tjackGNU: i don't understand why it says i have 4 primary partitions if swap is not primary
[02:28] <gg22> blackshirt: I would say it is true since I can check my actual user account and it shows nowhere near the maximum amount of filling that partition up. I set aside like 285 Gb for linux then like 150 for windows.
[02:28] <blackshirt> tjackGNU: i think tom1 want to use ntfs partition shared between windows and ubuntu ...
[02:28] <tjackGNU> tom1, you can create a HUGE ntfs partition. Both Windows and Linux gonna see it. No problem at all. So WHAT IS YOUR REALLY PROBLEM?
[02:28] <tom1> tjackGNU: i can't create the partition because it says i already have 4 primary partitions
[02:29] <tjackGNU> tom1, and don't you have them?
[02:29] <xTheGoat121x> Evening everyone, I tried installing the PPA for Compiz 0.9, and CCSM crashes when trying to activate plugins
[02:29] <tom1> tjackGNU: people here are saying swap doesn't count as primary...so i count 3
[02:30] <tjackGNU> tom1, OOPS! If you created /swap as a primary one, it does count like a primary partition, yes.
[02:30] <tjackGNU> tom1, can ou tell me your partition scheme?
[02:31] <tom1> tjackGNU: sure, what's the fdisk option? (if that's what i'm supposed to be using)
[02:31] <blackshirt> gg22: you say have other pastebin for error, can you show it ??
[02:31] <tjackGNU> tom1, why you're using fdisk?
[02:31] <tjackGNU> tjackGNU, but the command is "fdisk -l"....
[02:32] <tjackGNU> tom1, but the comand is "fdisk -l"...
[02:32] <tom1> tjackGNU: okay, how should i do it?
[02:32] <tom1> tjackGNU: (without fdisk)
[02:32] <tjackGNU> tom1, are you already try to boot with the install CD?
[02:33] <tjackGNU> tom1, it's all graphical...
[02:33] <tom1> tjackGNU: i installed 10.10 last night (i'm not on the cd right now)
[02:33] <shcherbak> tom1: swapoff
[02:34] <shcherbak> tom1: and remove swap partition
[02:34] <tom1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/530417/
[02:34] <tjackGNU> tom1, I'm REALLY cant understand what's going on there....
[02:34] <JdGordon|> with unity, how do i open a second terminal?
[02:34] <JdGordon|> pressing the teminal button on the launcher just selects the open one already
[02:34] <tom1> shcerbak: what is swapoff? is it bad to not have swap space?
[02:35] <tom1> shcherback: sorry
[02:35] <tjackGNU> tom1, ok.
[02:35] <tjackGNU> tom1, do you have pencil and paper?
[02:36] <tom1> tjackGNU: yes
[02:36] <xTheGoat121x> Can we expect Compiz 0.9 to be standard in 11.04?
[02:36] <tjackGNU> tom1, ok. Do exactly what I'm gonna write... But, please, wait until I finish.
[02:37] <tom1> tjackGNU: okay
[02:37] <cozziemoto> xTheGoat121x,  that I am not sure of I do know that netbook will have compiz instead of mutter however
[02:38] <xTheGoat121x> cozziemoto, that's at least good cuz it runs terribly on mine.
[02:38] <cozziemoto> xTheGoat121x,  a stable release of  0.9.x is not out yet even for testing
[02:38] <cozziemoto> xTheGoat121x,  that is one of the big reasons for the switch from mutter to compiz
[02:40] <tjackGNU> tom1, just push this buttons, in this order: d, 5, d, 4, d, 3, n, 3, <enter>, +17.5G, n, 4, <enter>, <enter>, t, 4, 82, w
[02:40] <tjackGNU> tom1, that's it.
[02:41] <tom1> sudo or no?
[02:41] <ShayGuy> Wicd stopped picking up wireless networks the other day, and a reboot hasn't fixed the problem. What will?
[02:41] <tjackGNU> tom1, you will delete al the partitions and create them again. But I do not know wh you are using fdisk... The Ubuntu install disk is so much better to see.
[02:42] <tjackGNU> tom1, you can't be logged on in Ubuntu...
[02:42] <JdGordon|>  /wc
[02:42] <KimLaRoux> ShayGuy, made sure it's not an hardware problem?
[02:42] <tom1> tjackGNU: I was only using fdisk to get the partition list...i originally set the partition using the cd
[02:43] <tjackGNU> tom1, but you set it "wrong". Why create an extended partition just to pu your /swap?
[02:43] <tom1> tjackGNU: i know i set it wrong, i was just clarifying that i wasn't using fdisk
[02:44] <tom1> tjackGNU: what will your setup do?
[02:44] <hellphyre_> so i setup my network share from ubuntu 10 and windows 7 for my server, i have 3 things shared on my win7 machine, music, users and my entire S: drive. I can access music and users but the S: drive asked me for my password and network. There is no password. any ideas? thanks
[02:44] <tjackGNU> tom1, my setup? I don't get it? How is my partition scheme?
[02:44] <brianBTB> ok... before i start, PLEASE no snide coments about SET being bad.
[02:45] <ShayGuy> KimLaRoux, I'm pretty sure, but I don't know how to be absolutely certain. The switch on the outside does nothing.
[02:45] <brianBTB> I keep getting errors in Social Engineer toolkit
[02:45] <tom1> tjackGNU: sorry, yes, how will the partitions be set?
[02:45] <brianBTB> I keep getting errors in social engineer toolkit. I used the svn to get the files, but there are no metasploit or mailsend files. can anyone help me?
[02:47] <brianBTB> I keep getting errors in social engineer toolkit. I used the svn to get the files, but there are no metasploit or mailsend files. can anyone help me?
[02:47] <johnjohn101> my wireless is much more flaky in 10.10 than previous ubuntu versions. Is there anything I can do?
[02:48] <brianBTB> I keep getting errors in social engineer toolkit. I used the svn to get the files, but there are no metasploit or mailsend files. can anyone help me?
[02:48] <brianBTB> ANYONE??
[02:48] <tjackGNU> tom1, mine is [1] S.R. (ntfs) {primary} || [2] Win7 (ntfs) {primary} || [3] /boot (ext3 150MB) {primary} || [4] EXTENDED>> [5] /swap (2.0 GB) || [6] / (ext4 rest of my HD)
[02:48] <hellphyre_> brianBTB: try flooding the channl.. lol
[02:49] <brianBTB> hellphyre, eh??
[02:49] <hellphyre_> STOP flooding the channel
[02:49] <brianBTB> ok
[02:49] <tom1> tjackGNU: I'm sorry, is that for my computer?
[02:50] <brianBTB> still, can anyone help?
[02:50] <hellphyre_> lol
[02:50] <hellphyre_> wow
[02:50] <tjackGNU> tom1, no. You asked about MY partition scheme... It's a sugestion to you, too.
[02:50] <cordoval_> has anyone know how to do this but backwards? http://morison.biz/technotes/articles/61
[02:51] <tom1> tjackGNU: sorry, what I asked, I meant the setup your instructions would create for me
[02:51] <brianBTB> does anyone know how to launch a .run file?
[02:51] <ravingboi> hello everyone~
[02:51] <cordoval_> rather than hosting on windows, hosting on ubuntu a virtualbox windows but let windows access a http://localhost domain set on the apache2 running on the ubuntu
[02:51] <hellphyre_> hi
[02:51] <ravingboi> first time login
[02:51] <tjackGNU> tom1, just press that inside fdisk. Without the commas...
[02:52] <tom1> tjackGNU: i just wanted to know what the end result will be, before i start deleting things
[02:52] <cordoval_> there should be someone here that has done this perhaps? has anyone know how to do this but backwards? http://morison.biz/technotes/articles/61 rather than hosting on windows, hosting on ubuntu a virtualbox windows but let windows access a http://localhost domain set on the apache2 running on the ubuntu
[02:53] <uLinux> What folder can I add a program for every user? /bin ?
[02:53] <brianBTB> does anyone know how to launch a .run file? i know i am spamming but my report is due in the morning. and I need to get SET working to hit my teacher with a file. it is for a report on school security
[02:53] <edbian> uLinux, /usr/bin
[02:53] <uLinux> edbian: tks
[02:53] <brianBTB> for Computer Engineering
[02:53] <edbian> uLinux, /bin will work but it is improper
[02:53] <tjackGNU> tom1, try it. Until you press 'w' NOTHING will happen with your HD. If you think that will not gonna be ok, just press 'q' and find another way.
[02:53] <killerghost> brainBTB: ./yourfile.run try it
[02:54] <dhie> join #banjarmasin
[02:54] <tom1> tjackGNU: can't you just give me the breakdown?
[02:54] <StevenZhang> sorry, i get a network error.
[02:55] <uLinux> How can I reinstall sound drivers?
[02:55] <StevenZhang> still remember my gnustep problem?
[02:55] <tjackGNU> tom1, what is a breakdown? Sorry, I'm brazilian and my english is not the 'coolest' one.
[02:55] <ahtmly2k> anybody know an audicity channel..? there's no file menu bar in my audacity window.. can anyone help me?
[02:56] <uLinux> Or how can I reinstall anything that has to do with sound? drivers, alsa, pulseaudio.
[02:56] <hellphyre_> brianBTB: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gaming-multimedia-entertainment/35202-installing-run-files.html
[02:56] <edbian> uLinux, Well to reinstall alsa you sudo apt-get reinstall alsa
[02:56] <edbian> uLinux, But linux sound is very complicated.  Additionally I don't know how your system is setup right now.
[02:56] <tom1> tjackGNU: i apologize for the confusion. I just wanted to know how you want me to partition my drive
[02:56] <uLinux> edbian: it's just im having a problem that would be solved if i reinstalled ubuntu but now i dont have time
[02:57] <edbian> uLinux, http://www.tuxradar.com/content/how-it-works-linux-audio-explained
[02:57] <lighta> hi here, how can I uninstall a graphic controler ?
[02:57] <brianBTB> hellphyre, thnx
[02:57] <edbian> uLinux, reinstalling ubuntu will probably fix the problem.  It won't teach you anything though. (it is extremely unlikely that you HAVE to reinstall)
[02:57] <uLinux> yeah
[02:57] <edbian> uLinux, yeah
[02:58] <brianBTB> sh myfile.run worked
[02:58] <uLinux> lol
[02:58] <tjackGNU> tom1, just push this buttons, in this order: d, 5, d, 4, d, 3, n, 3, <enter>, +17.5G, n, 4, <enter>, <enter>, t, 4, 82. Then, press p to see what is gonna look like. If you liked: w. If you don't: q.
[02:58] <Sean93_> how can i view my own webcam?
[02:58] <hellphyre_> brianBTB: 2nd reult listed via google. Thank LArry Page
[02:58] <edbian> Sean93_, using an app like cheese
[02:58] <uLinux> why dont they make a standart for sound system, etc
[02:58] <TariQ> .
[02:58] <pepperjack> Sean93_: vlc is handy for that
[02:59] <edbian> uLinux, They do.  They make several.  That's the problem.  There are too many things doing different jobs.
[02:59] <tom1> tjackGNU: is there just an easy way to do it off the live cd?
[02:59] <tjackGNU> Sean93_, sudo apt-get install cheese
[02:59] <edbian> uLinux, The real problem is "what is the perfect sound system"
[02:59] <Sean93_> pepperjack, how?
[02:59] <uLinux> edbian: they should work together in only one sound system
[02:59] <uLinux> :(
[02:59] <tjackGNU> tom1, boot with the live CD again!
[03:00] <uLinux> same for packages
[03:00] <tom1> tjackGNU: okay, then what?
[03:00] <edbian> uLinux, Read the article :)  You have choices in the linux world.
[03:00] <uLinux> .deb is alright
[03:00] <uLinux> ok
[03:00] <pepperjack> Sean93_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143732
[03:00] <edbian> uLinux, It's not that I don't enjoy talking about this sort of thing.  It's just that we're offtopic.  Additionally I think you should read up on it before you cast judgement ;)
[03:01] <tjackGNU> tom1, can you read?! I'm really stressed with you. Just put the CD, choose your language, and go for it, man! In 7 clicks you are done!
[03:01] <uLinux> edbian: yeah ;)
[03:02] <tom1> tjackGNU: i'm sorry you're stressed with me...i know how to boot with the cd...please tell me what options to use my 7 clicks on and you can be done with me
[03:02] <tjackGNU> tom1, just follow the instructions. Don't be hurry.  It's easier than you ever imagine....
[03:04] <edbian> Nobody wants any help with anything?
[03:04] <tom1> tjackGNU: i don't use fdisk (another apparent misunderstanding), if you just tell me how to set the partitions when i install you can be rid of me
[03:04] <S0LIDUS> tom1, What are you trying to do?
[03:04] <edbian> tom1, Just use the installer.  It has a partition er (an automatic one)
[03:04] <Syk> s
[03:05] <cordoval_> there should be someone here that has done this perhaps? has anyone know how to do this but backwards? http://morison.biz/technotes/articles/61 rather than hosting on windows, hosting on ubuntu a virtualbox windows but let windows access a http://localhost domain set on the apache2 running on the ubuntu
[03:05] <tom1> SOLIDUS: I'm trying to dual boot windows and ubuntu with a data partition but when i try to allocate the space it says i already have 4 primary partitions
[03:05] <tjackGNU> tom1, put the CD, boot, choose your language, and FOLLOW THE SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS.
[03:05] <lighta> hi here,  can someone help me with graphic controler ?
[03:05] <tom1> tjackGNU: FOLLOW THE SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS to do what? what options do i use?
[03:06] <edbian> cordoval_, There is some guest editions thing that lets you do that
[03:06] <edbian> tom1, You should ask in the channel for your language so that you understand better.
[03:06] <S0LIDUS> tom1, Would you be using Wubi or the LiveCD?
[03:06] <tom1> edbian: isn't this english?
[03:06] <tjackGNU> tom1, BOOT THE DAMN CD AND YOU'LL SEE IT IN YOUR SCREEN!
[03:06] <cordoval_> edbian: oh true, I forgot about them, will check now
[03:06] <edbian> tom1: yeah (sorry if I offended you)
[03:07] <edbian> cordoval_, yep :)
[03:07] <tjackGNU> tom1, you are trying to make a mind-installation... It's absurd!
[03:07] <tjackGNU> tom1, nothing will happen until you boot with the install disk and follow the instructions.
[03:08] <cordoval_> edbian: where should I look, i have the window open and menu "Machine, Devices, Help" I go under Devices but
[03:08] <hellphyre_> lol
[03:08] <JakeCulpin> Hey, does anyone here have any knowledge with truecrypt? I'm using an Ubuntu LiveCD to currently access my system, due to this reason: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=13021
[03:08] <edbian> cordoval_, Is it not there.  I'm afraid I don't know.  I bet though that there is a package in the repos for it.
[03:08] <cordoval_> edbian: package in the repos means...
[03:08] <JakeCulpin> I'd be made up If someone could help me, I have lots of data on this drive, which I can access via the LiveCD, but I want to be able to boot my original os, just not happening.
[03:09] <ShayGuy> Well, it's been 20 minutes. I have to go.
[03:09] <cordoval_> edbian: notice that this guy does it inversely http://morison.biz/technotes/articles/61 for windows
[03:09] <cordoval_> It would be a shame that we cannot do it for ubuntu
[03:09] <tom1> edbian: it's fine, am i really that confusing?
[03:09] <tjackGNU> tom1, and I'm done with you... You don't wnat to learn. You want that I imagine what is going to happen there, and give you some "answers"... It's not that way. For that cases it's that exist something called WUBI.EXE...
[03:10] <tom1> i'm trying to hard to learn and you just tell me to boot the damn cd and call me absurd
[03:10] <echo310infantry> i have a 470 and a 260, when enabling my tv via seprate x screen it says cannot apply... any ideas?
[03:10] <edbian> cordoval_, yeah I see that.  Open synaptic.  Those are the repos
[03:10] <edbian> tom1, Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attentions :P
[03:10] <tjackGNU> tom1, but that is the step zero: boot the CD.  Then you follow the screen instructions and voilá!
[03:11] <JakeCulpin> no truecrypt experts here?
[03:11] <edbian> tom1, Did you boot the CD?  What is your question?
[03:11] <echo310infantry> what do u need to know about trucrypt
[03:11] <cordoval_> edbian: synaptic opened, now ... virtualbox?
[03:11] <JakeCulpin> echo31
[03:12] <tom1> tjackGNU: i understand i need to boot off the cd...but i'm not clear on the options i should be using when i set the swap partition (which is apparently why i have 4 primary partitions currently)
[03:12] <JakeCulpin> http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=13021
[03:12] <edbian> cordoval_, I found this btw: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#additions-windows
[03:12] <cordoval_> I got this response "It is possible but if your running apache2 on the host you will have to configure your network settings of the guest to be bounded device instead of a NATed device...."
[03:12] <echo310infantry> reading it now
[03:12] <cordoval_> edbian: reading your link ...
[03:12] <edbian> cordoval_, I'm not sure if it's in the repos.  I just said maybe.  I have no idea what the package might be named.  I'd begin by searching "virtual box" these are just guesses.
[03:12] <edbian> cordoval_, k
[03:13] <tom1> edbian: i just want to change my setup so i'm not using 4 primary partitions so i can set my current unallocated space as a shared ntfs drive
[03:13] <tjackGNU> tom1, you have 4 primary partitions. The Extended partition IS a primary...
[03:13] <greezmunkey> tom1: Please understand that this is not a formal technical support organization, people here are volunteers. There is the expectation that a few words will point someone like yourself in the right direction, and then that person would quitely work towards a solution, chiming in now and then for additional guidance only after reading up on their problem on their own.
[03:13] <edbian> tom1, You can only have 4 primary partitions on a hdd.  You need to create an "extended" or "logical" partition.  Inside the extension you can put logical partitions that don't count as one of your 4 primary.
[03:13] <tjackGNU> tom1, go here <http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download> scroll down until number 4 and click on "Show me how". That's it.
[03:14] <edbian> tom1, Use the live CD and gparted to re-arrange the HDD partitions
[03:14] <tom1> edbian: okay, how do i set swap so it's not a primary?
[03:14] <echo310infantry> jake ur not gonna like my answer but it sounds like it overwrote part of the encryption freezing the disk... u cant partition after you encrypt without doing through the probram or un encrypting the drive
[03:15] <edbian> tom1, delete it, create a new partition inside an extended partition, make that new partition swap
[03:15] <tjackGNU> tom1, delete it.
[03:15] <JakeCulpin> echo31, I decrypted the disk already.
[03:15] <JakeCulpin> I can access my files using liveCD
[03:15] <echo310infantry> but u did it after the partition correct
[03:15] <JakeCulpin> I just want to be able to boot back into my OS.
[03:15] <JakeCulpin> yes.
[03:16] <JakeCulpin> I did it when I couldn't logon.
[03:16] <DuckMaestro> anyone know a guide for installing ubuntu on latest gen mac-mini? im running into an issue.
[03:16] <JakeCulpin> I just want to get rid of this annoying truecrypt pre-boot auth crap and boot.
[03:16] <edbian> DuckMaestro, What's the issue?  It should just install.
[03:16] <JakeCulpin> I used the recovery disk with win7 to try and repair the MBR, no help.
[03:16] <hxcjonnysniper> i need help configuring direct x with wine.
[03:17] <DuckMaestro> edbian, i see the low-res pair of icons, then hear cd spinning for a few minutes, then just black screen
[03:17] <hxcjonnysniper> someone?
[03:17] <hxcjonnysniper> anyone?
[03:17] <hxcjonnysniper> lol.
[03:17] <echo310infantry> i realize what your saying and i think your screwed 99% sure
[03:17] <edbian> DuckMaestro, Oh it won't boot at all?  Check the CD.  Do you get any errors at all?
[03:17] <JakeCulpin> So I'll have to backup all my shit onto a drive + reinstall Windblows?
[03:17] <h00k> ubottu: language | JakeCulpin
[03:17] <edbian> hxcjonnysniper, direct x is the API for windows not linux
[03:18] <JakeCulpin> apologies.
[03:18] <izinucs> hxcjonnysniper: ain't gonna happen..
[03:18] <echo310infantry> correct.. if u can even get a backup off the hdd
[03:18] <DuckMaestro> no errors, but i verified my burn after it finished. though that's not to say the disc didnt lose integrity between then and beginning the install
[03:18] <JakeCulpin> Yeah, As I said, I'm able to edit/check files on my hdds using ubuntu
[03:18] <tjackGNU> JakeCulpin, you'll have to do this on Windows: [1] /fixboot [2] /fixmbr, [3] bootsect /nt60 ALL /force /mbr. This you will make after you boot with the CD, and you gonna click on "Repair my computer", and then select the Command prompt....
[03:18] <hxcjonnysniper> edbian: so there is no way i can play cod on linux? i have seen videos on youtube and stuff.
[03:19] <edbian> DuckMaestro, If it won't boot with 0 errors you either have a bad cd or bad hardware.  Sometimes though it's just that Ubuntu doesn't like the hardware (usually that doesn't happen with a mac since they're so cookie-cutter and common)
[03:19] <edbian> hxcjonnysniper, You have to use wine
[03:19] <echo310infantry> tjack dont forget its encrypted
[03:19] <JakeCulpin> tjackGNU, I'm assuming you want me to do this at the recovery menu command prompt?
[03:19] <JakeCulpin> echo31, the drive itself has been decrypted.
[03:19] <edbian> hxcjonnysniper, I have no experience setting it up, I do not know how well it works.
[03:19] <echo310infantry> oh
[03:19] <JakeCulpin> took me 48 hours, decrypted the WHOLE drive
[03:19] <DuckMaestro> edbian:  in my case neither display port (whether apple mini port or hdmi) seems to be outputting a signal. tried two diff monitors separately.
[03:19] <ShayGuy> Okay, back. Wicd still isn't working.
[03:20] <izinucs> hxcjonnysniper: unless cod has a switch for opengl probably not
[03:20] <Exploiter> anyone notices there is something wrong with man page of netstat.....
[03:20] <tjackGNU> echo310infantry, they just want they Windows back... That's what these commands will do.
[03:20] <echo310infantry> then just run reco disk
[03:20] <Exploiter> wondering if its only me... or there is something wrong
[03:20] <edbian> DuckMaestro, mmm, you didn't even get the boot menu on the CD?
[03:20] <JakeCulpin> I've ran it.. like 40 times.
[03:20] <DuckMaestro> edbian: no. just the pair of icons at the bottom, then spinning, then no signal
[03:20] <JakeCulpin> and yet, the truecrypt **** still comes up ._.
[03:20] <tom1> can i just delete the swap partition and add a swap file in / ?
[03:20] <echo310infantry> i have a gtx470 and a gtx260, when enabling my tv via seprate x screen it says cannot apply... any ideas?
[03:21] <hxcjonnysniper> edbian: i am using wine. but when i go to start it i get "DirectX has encountered an unrecoverable error"
[03:21] <edbian> DuckMaestro, sounds like the disc is scratched
[03:21] <rww> Exploiter: it looks fine to me
[03:21] <echo310infantry> as i said before i think ur screwed
[03:21] <tjackGNU> JakeCulpin, nope. Boot with the Windows DVD, then "Install", and then "Repair my computer", there will be some more options and you'll choose a command prompt and you'll excte those commands.
[03:21] <echo310infantry> try what gnu said though
[03:21] <DuckMaestro> edbian: ok ill try a new burn...
[03:21] <JakeCulpin> tjackGNU, Yeah i did that before, apart from one of those, so I shall try.
[03:21] <edbian> hxcjonnysniper, yeah, what you're trying to do is complicated.  You probably need specific knowledge about this version of COD in wine.  Have you googled it?
[03:21] <Exploiter> rww: my man page is not showing argument options, like -an etc
[03:21] <edbian> hxcjonnysniper, I'm sure others have tried
[03:21] <JakeCulpin> It did say " the volume does not contain a recognized file system"
[03:21] <edbian> DuckMaestro, worth a shot.  Sometimes you get strange problems like this. (also you might wanna try other distros)
[03:21] <JakeCulpin> etc
[03:22] <tjackGNU> JakeCulpin, then you'll have your Windows again.
[03:22] <gogeta> tjackGNU: noo windows
[03:22] <tjackGNU> JakeCulpin, the MBR have a filesystem?
[03:22] <rww> Exploiter: mine shows both -a and -n :\
[03:22] <hxcjonnysniper> edbian: yeah its a common error though. windows or not. i have been looking ALL day on how to fix it. i just really hope i didnt waste 50 dollars.
[03:22] <tom1> tjackGNU: thank you for your help and patience, i apologize for frustrating you
[03:23] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: 50$
[03:23] <Exploiter> rww: nevermind, will reinstall it, thx anyways..
[03:23] <edbian> hxcjonnysniper, Don't give up so early! :)
[03:23] <tjackGNU> tom1, don't excuses, please... It's 01:20 AM here... I'm just tired. Good luck.
[03:23] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: whats broken
[03:23] <JakeCulpin> tjackGNU, as far as I know.
[03:23] <hxcjonnysniper> edbian: oh im not. =]
[03:24] <tom1> tjackGNU: thanks, i'll figure it out
[03:24] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: im trying to run call of duty black ops through wine. i have it installed and everything but when i click on it i get a direct x error that says "DirectX has encountered an unrecoverable error"
[03:24] <JakeCulpin> tjackGNU, this is Windows7 btw.
[03:24] <echo310infantry> is anyone very familiar with nvidia x server?
[03:24] <mint> is there a way to retrieve a file from another disk partion?
[03:25] <edbian> mint, yeah
[03:25] <echo310infantry> mint u can mount it
[03:25] <lonewlf2001> hello
[03:25] <edbian> mint, mount the partition, get the file ;)
[03:25] <h00k> hxcjonnysniper: wine help can be found in #winehq
[03:25] <tjackGNU> JakeCulpin, well... I had the same problem with a criptographed disk, and afer those commands in the Windos installation, I was able to boot in it again.
[03:25] <bastidrazor> tom1: yes, you can add swap as a file. reference here:: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[03:25] <Hakume1> I'm still having trouble with my sound.
[03:25] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: Had to use "winetricks d3dx9 vcrun2005" and a no-dvd patch.
[03:25] <echo310infantry> is anyone very familiar with nvidia x server?
[03:25] <mint> I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu and mint and ubuntu broke (long story)
[03:25] <tjackGNU> tjackGNU, yeah. Windows 7. I didn't expected nothing else. ;)
[03:25] <Hakume1> I am to a degree.
[03:26] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: thats what it sayd for that game in winedb but sound will not work
[03:26] <mint> anyway, I'd really like to get my files off the ubuntu section
[03:26] <edbian> mint, easy
[03:26] <echo310infantry> i have a gtx470 and a gtx260, when enabling my tv via seprate x screen it says cannot apply... any ideas?
[03:26] <edbian> mint, pm me?
[03:26] <tom1> bastidrazor: thanks, that's what i was reading...just wanted to make sure that wasn't a bad idea
[03:26] <tjackGNU> echo310infantry, already google'it?
[03:26] <echo310infantry> yes
[03:26] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: ive edit the registry and everything.
[03:27] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: it needs winetrick dx9 and cvrun2005 installed
[03:27] <JakeCulpin> ok, lets see if it worked
[03:27] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: winetricks can install dx9 and vcrun2005
[03:27] <JakeCulpin> nope
[03:27] <JakeCulpin> still got that truecrypt password screen
[03:27] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=21918&iTestingId=58657
[03:27] <echo310infantry> jake for real... its screwed
[03:27] <Exploiter> is there is any graphical tool to find out open ports in linux?
[03:28] <JakeCulpin> terminal
[03:28] <echo310infantry> network tools
[03:28] <tjackGNU> JakeCulpin, that's why I hate so bad this crypt-stuffs... This is for Osama Bin Laden's PC...
[03:28] <Exploiter> :\
[03:28] <swim> with compiz, I cannot get any windows space on my 3d sphere
[03:28] <echo310infantry> tjack.. is there a channel for my question that u are aware of?
[03:29] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: i dont have a problem with the sound. the game wont start.
[03:29] <echo310infantry> swim make sure u have at least 4 windows
[03:29] <swim> i do
[03:29] <JakeCulpin> tjackGNU, yeah
[03:29] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: being you peobly lack thkse 3 things
[03:29] <tjackGNU> echo310infantry, no. I'm new for here. Sorry.
[03:29] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:?
[03:29] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: read comment nedded those things just to getit to work lacking sound
[03:29] <echo310infantry> swim have u rebooted?
[03:30] <echo310infantry> and updated?
[03:30] <swim> yes, several times
[03:30] <echo310infantry> google for config files
[03:30] <swim> do you know if there are any settings that will conflict with the space??
[03:30] <echo310infantry> not that im aware of
[03:31] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: game has a silver rating
[03:31] <swim> it was working just fine..
[03:31] <swim> then it just quit working
[03:31] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:??????
[03:31] <tjackGNU> swim, if a black hole became huge, it can conflict with the space...
[03:31] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:this has nothing to do with my problem?
[03:31] <echo310infantry> uload then reload in package mgr
[03:31] <wrektjet> hello. my programs associated with my webcam are using the wrong device as the source. where do i go to change the default settings? programs like cheese and weborama dont have a prefrences item regarding input devices
[03:31] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: then you fail to understand your issue use windows
[03:32] <swim> if a black hole became huge enough, it would conflict with everthing
[03:32] <tjackGNU> wrektjet, go to System / Preferences / Multimedia Systems Selector
[03:32] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: my problem is with direct x. not sound.
[03:32] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: READ!
[03:32] <Exploiter> swim: not with chuck norris
[03:32] <tjackGNU> Exploiter, yeah!
[03:32] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: d3dx9 is directx
[03:33] <swim> no doubt..  it'll subtly sneak around chuck
[03:33] <wrektjet> tjackGNU, i donyt seem to have that option. im using 10.04
[03:33] <woniu> hello everyone
[03:33] <wrektjet> ill find it..
[03:33] <ShayGuy> Wicd hasn't been picking up wireless networks since yesterday, even after a reboot. I can't remember what has to be done at the terminal.
[03:33] <blackshirt> woniu: hello
[03:34] <tjackGNU> wrektjet, do you have it, for sure. Just right-button click on the menus and "Edit menus". Then scroll to System / Preferences / and [x] mark this option. Voilá!
[03:34] <woniu> what is .cue file
[03:34] <swim> well, i'm going to go check on this in the compiz channel..  thanks guys
[03:34] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: but even with the directx fixed it will not have sound
[03:35] <lonewlf2001> woniu: .cue files tell .bin files where to write on a cd...
[03:35] <tjackGNU> woniu, it's a file that says what is have to be donne with the image file (.iso or whatsover)....
[03:35] <bigtimer> hey im using kate for programing but in my university kate can open the terminal in it self but in ubuntu it cannot oben the terminal in itself ? does someone know why ??
[03:35] <wrektjet> tjackGNU, awesome thanks a lot.
[03:35] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:word well i cannot find vcrun2005
[03:35] <wrektjet> done and done
[03:35] <bigtimer> *open
[03:35] <tjackGNU> wrektjet, Ubuntu for you and me, my fellow.
[03:35] <DuckMaestro> edbian: how long should it take before i see boot/install options if im trying to install from dvd-r?  maybe im not waiting long enough?
[03:35] <woniu> and how can i open it?
[03:36] <tjackGNU> woniu, with Brasero or k3b...
[03:36] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[03:36] <edbian> DuckMaestro, When you put in the CD and boot it?  There should never be more than 1 minutes of blank screen ness (that's generous).  Depending on the speed the boot time from computer off to live CD running is 10 or 15 minutes
[03:36] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: winetricks can dl and install said things its a script
[03:37] <Maahes> I'm having an issue that's a pain: My trackpad won't come back online after suspend. I've tried loading and unloading psmouse, I've tried using tpconfig -x, tpconfig sees it as there, but no it's not listed in /proc/bus/input/devices. I do not have a physical switch to turn my trackpad on and off. Is there a program that can turn my touchpad back on?
[03:37] <Dwade09> hxcjonnysniper,  then try using a gaming os like windows or try playonlinux or cedega
[03:38] <gogeta> Dwade09: lol
[03:38] <tjackGNU> Maahes, sudo rmmod synaptics, then sudo insmod synaptics?
[03:38] <Some_Person> I'm having trouble connecting to one Windows 7 machine's SMB shares. For some reason, ubuntu seems to think this machine is on a domain (instead of a workgroup) and prompts for a user/password/domain. Accessing other computers' shares works fine on my network (including another Windows 7 machine), and other machines can access this machine's shares no problem (but no other machines are Linux). What the hell is going on and
[03:38] <Some_Person> what should I do?
[03:39] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: i was trying playonlinux but i couldn't figure it out honestly.
[03:39] <Dwade09> well its true gogeta if he cant get it working in wine.
[03:39] <woniu> ok,i got it ,tkanks
[03:39] <timClicks> how do I detect what touchpad I'm using is and its driver?
[03:39] <JackyChao> hello
[03:40] <tjackGNU> timClicks, sudo lsmod
[03:40] <JackyChao> how can i insert a picture in latex
[03:40] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: dl wintricks script install cabextract from apt-get then dl d3dx9 and the other file
[03:40] <tjackGNU> timClicks, or just lsmod... w/o sudo....
[03:40] <JackyChao> anybody knows
[03:40] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: the game will work but lack sound
[03:40] <edbian> Some_Person, Read all about samba.  I guarantee it works, you just have to configure it: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/
[03:41] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: as the wiki says sudo sh winetrcks d3dx9
[03:41] <edbian> Some_Person, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html
[03:41] <Dwade09> hxcjonnysniper,  if there is no sound install the sound drivers
[03:41] <swim> hey, does anybody know where there may be a compiz support channel???
[03:41] <Some_Person> edbian: I don't want to set up a server on ubuntu. I'm trying to access a server on a Windows 7 machine
[03:41] <gogeta> Dwade09: its a wine issue with that game
[03:41] <edbian> Some_Person, oh sorry.  Misread that.  What is the issue?
[03:41] <Dwade09> gogeta,  iw as being sarcastic
[03:41] <edbian> Some_Person, (I've never done it this way before)
[03:42] <Some_Person> edbian: It prompts for a user/password/domain despite the machine not being on a domain. I can't log in to it. Strangely, other machines (including one Windows 7) can be accessed fine
[03:42] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:You (root) don't own /home/hxcjonnysniper/.wine. Don't run winetricks as another user!
[03:42] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: sorry no sudo
[03:42] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:it says i do not own it.
[03:43] <edbian> Some_Person, Perhaps you can set the share to not require those things?
[03:43] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: just sh winetricks d3dx9
[03:43] <Some_Person> edbian: It isn't supposed to require a damn domain
[03:43] <hxcjonnysniper> okay i did that.
[03:43] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: and the vc file you nedded
[03:44] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: as long as you installed cabextract it should install everything
[03:44] <edbian> Some_Person, Yeah I know.
[03:44] <edbian> Some_Person, Sorry I'm not sure.  Make a forum post.
[03:44] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: i didnt do that i dont think O.o
[03:44] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: sudo apt-get install cabextract
[03:45] <greezmunkey> Some_Person: Have you tried "WindowsMachineName.local" as the domain? (substitute the windows name)
[03:45] <Some_Person> edbian: I can mount it manually with 'smbmount', just not in nautilus
[03:45] <tjackGNU> Some_Person, have you tried to login with the domain being the workgroups? Like: in a Win7 the workgroup name is HELL, and you log in, put your user, pass, and domain = HELL... Try it already?
[03:45] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: probly miselld that
[03:45] <gogeta> missplled
[03:45] <Some_Person> tjackGNU: Tried already, fail
[03:45] <gogeta> nope didnt
[03:45] <tjackGNU> Some_Person, and you have a account on the Windows machines?
[03:46] <edbian> Some_Person, Really.  Then just don't use nautilus!  ha aha
[03:46] <Some_Person> tjackGNU: Duh. It's my laptop
[03:46] <Some_Person> greezmunkey: didn't work
[03:46] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:it says it is already the newest version
[03:46] <[]pc> lu
[03:46] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: k then just do sh winetrcks vcrun2005
[03:46] <tjackGNU> Some_Person, and you log with your user and password and workgroup and nothing?
[03:47] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: if you are finished with the d3dx9
[03:47] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:already did that too.
[03:47] <Some_Person> tjackGNU: In nautilus, it just prompts for it again. Like I said, I can mount it manually with smbmount without problems (smbmount //server/share /path/to/mountpoint -o user=username pass=password)
[03:47] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: well see if said game runs
[03:48] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:nope. same error.
[03:48] <tjackGNU> Some_Person, sudo apt-get install libpam-smbpass
[03:48] <oxidizer> hi to every one
[03:48] <striker_> hi all
[03:48] <New_guy> anyone available to help a newbie with ubuntu netbook
[03:48] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: you using wine 1.3.6
[03:48] <tjackGNU> Some_Person, sudo apt-get install nautilus-(anything with samba)
[03:48] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: or the older wine
[03:48] <Some_Person> tjackGNU: The odd thing is that this is working fine with my other Windows 7 machine.
[03:49] <brntbeer__> IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII JUST WANNA TAKE YOU DOWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
[03:49] <brntbeer__> wrongg channel
[03:49] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: it says 1.2.1
[03:49] <AbhiJit> New_guy, ask
[03:49] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: yep to old
[03:50] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: hears how to update the repo to the 1.3.6
[03:50] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[03:50] <New_guy> just put netbook on a compaq laptop that was running kubuntu just fiine....but am having problems with the display with netbook
[03:50] <greezmunkey> Some_Person: What version of win7 are you trying to connect to (that does not work) ??
[03:50] <Some_Person> greezmunkey: Both are Ultimate
[03:50] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:i already did this too. like two hours ago.
[03:50] <tjackGNU> Some_Person, I know how it is. I NEVER have a Win-Linux SMB shares without headaches... Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't... I have the same problem some times. Right now, for example... (I can't even see my brother's Win7 shares)
[03:50] <edbian> New_guy, What are the problems
[03:51] <New_guy> the app bar (left side) doesn't appear until you mouse over it....and even then the display is not readable
[03:51] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: if your still using 1.2.1 you havent dont a upgrade then
[03:51] <gogeta> done
[03:51] <greezmunkey> Some_Person: Haave you tried turning off windows firewall as a test?
[03:51] <AR_> ok i downloaded a program and want to run it but when i click the setup.exe it says error
[03:51] <swim> hey, anybody here know a lot about compiz???
[03:52] <New_guy> If I click around in the top left corner, I can get the main window with web, music, photos, games, etc to display ok
[03:52] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm about to reszie my ubuntu partition on my dual boot machine by booting into gparted.  i know i need to back up windows because i'm expanding ubuntu and shrinking windows, but is there also a chance that ubuntu gets corrupted even though i'm expanding it?
[03:52] <AbhiJit> !wine | AR_
[03:52] <AbhiJit> AR_, you cant run .exe file directly. you need wine for that
[03:52] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: just do apt-get update
[03:52] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: then apt-get upgrade
[03:52] <Some_Person> greezmunkey: Not sure how that would help. SMB is working; nautilus just thinks the machine is on a domain instead of a workgroup. But I'll try it
[03:52] <ylmfos> how are you ?
[03:52] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: it should grab the newer version of wine
[03:52] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: as well as any other updates
[03:53] <Hakume1> My Riptide sound/analog game/modem card isn't being detected by Ubuntu 10.10, even with the libsdl-debian-all package.
[03:53] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:53] <Some_Person> greezmunkey: Nope, didn't help
[03:53] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: blarg both commands are sudo
[03:53] <Hakume1> It WAS working until earlier today.
[03:53] <greezmunkey> Some_Person: There are a littany of bug reports regarding Nautilus, and win7 shares, unfortunately. But you did say you can connect to one win7 box but not another, right?
[03:54] <Some_Person> greezmunkey: correct, and both are using the same configuration as far as I can tell
[03:54] <sacton3> Hey guys, I have a question.  I am wanting to make a custom version of Crunchbang with so mods and release it as my own distrobution.  Do I need to notify the creators of Crunchbang that I am doing so?
[03:54] <hxcjonnysniper> still says 1.2.1
[03:55] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:this is ridiculous.
[03:55] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: should like you didnt add the wine repo
[03:55] <Some_Person> greezmunkey: This may have started when I tried to access some SMB shares at school (where domains are used). I haven't accessed my laptop before, and perhaps nautilus is now assuming all machines are on domains
[03:55] <Hakume1> Anyone know what to do?
[03:55] <tjackGNU> Some_Person, I think it's that stupid Homegroups feature.... But... I really do not know.
[03:55] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[03:55] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: then sudo apt-get  update
[03:56] <DuckMaestro> hmm, separate issue. was installing netbook release on my netbook. seemed to be going fine. got far along, then started downloading updates (still within the installer).  then around about halfway through the updates my screen goes black. i dont see any disk activity.
[03:56] <c4rp3d13m> helo all
[03:56] <DuckMaestro> should i hard reboot?
[03:56] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: lastly sudo apt-get  install wine1.3
[03:56] <c4rp3d13m> new ubuntu server user here
[03:56] <izinucs> hxcjonnysniper: you have to sudo apt-get update before you sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade otherwise your system won't have cached the new repo
[03:57] <gogeta> izinucs: llooks like they sepreted the stable and beta instalers
[03:57] <gogeta> izinucs: you have to use wine 1.3 now
[03:57] <gogeta> wine1.3
[03:58] <hxcjonnysniper> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:58] <izinucs> gogeta: wouldn't know .. I have an aversion to wine.. except when it's a good red :)
[03:58] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: udo apt-get  install wine1.3 didnt install wine?
[03:58] <gogeta> sudo
[03:58] <Hakume1> My Riptide sound/analog game/modem card isn't being detected by Ubuntu 10.10, even with the libsdl-debian-all package.
[03:59] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:its installing it now.
[03:59] <gogeta> :)
[03:59] <echo310infantry> is it possible to drag a program from one screen to another?
[04:00] <VinceN> Good Evening fellow Ubuntu Lovers, I need some help setting up a PPTP Server on my box and i'm having issues with it
[04:00] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta:so after that what?
[04:00] <Hakume1> Yes, and I still haven't managed to figure out how to fix my problem.
[04:00] <boxbeatsy> hi, i'm about to reszie my ubuntu partition on my dual boot machine by booting into gparted.  i know i need to back up windows because i'm expanding ubuntu and shrinking windows, but is there also a chance that ubuntu gets corrupted even though i'm expanding it?
[04:00] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: see if said game works
[04:00] <DuckMaestro> any thoughts on a black screen 3/4's the way through a netbook install?
[04:00] <uLinux> How can I clear paste/clipboard in terminal?
[04:00] <tensorpudding> uLinux: shift+insert is the best way, i find
[04:00] <aBD3LnUbaN> i have a question:I'm using a lenovo g560 with an Intel HDA sound card, my laptop's speakers make the sound and so do my headphones, anyway i could just let the headphones make the sound?
[04:00] <greezmunkey> Some_Person: I can use Naut to connect to shares on my win7 ultimate pc. It asks for a domain, I typed in my work nework name (on the win7 box), password, and checked the box to remember the pword until I log out. Works... Check your win7 machine, advanced sharing settings, make sure that discovery, sharing, access for anyone - are all on.
[04:00] <echo310infantry> is it possible to drag a program from one screen to another?
[04:00] <izinucs> echo310infantry: yep
[04:01] <VinceN> boxbeatsy: Anytime you start screwing arround with partitions you could hose the drive.
[04:01] <uLinux> tensorpudding: that pastes
[04:01] <uLinux> lol
[04:01] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: being it upgraded wine it should have kept your settings
[04:01] <tensorpudding> oh, you want to _clear_ paste? what does that mean?
[04:01] <echo310infantry> izin.. how it just rotates my cube
[04:01] <tensorpudding> empty the clipboard?
[04:01] <boxbeatsy> VinceN: mmk.  is there anything in particular i should take not of avoiding?
[04:01] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: word. i think its done.
[04:01] <uLinux> tensorpudding: yes empty
[04:01] <uLinux> or clear :P
[04:01] <boxbeatsy> VinceN: after booting up, i'm just going to boot to gparted and im hoping there are clear instructions there on resizing
[04:01] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: might have to winetrick those 2 file again but maybe not
[04:01] <echo310infantry> izinucs.. how it just rotates my cube
[04:02] <boxbeatsy> *after backin gup
[04:02] <Some_Person> greezmunkey: And you're not using a domain at work there?
[04:02] <greezmunkey> Some_Person: correct, and Nautilus 2.30.1
[04:02] <VinceN> boxbeaty: If you have a spare drive I would mirror the drive first.  Baring that.  Back up anything you can't afford to loose
[04:02] <VinceN> Generally speaking resizing is easy but you always always always want to have a backup
[04:03] <izinucs> echo310infantry: click and hold the window, drag .. cube rotates to another side with the program following.. typically
[04:03] <tim> how do I get to irc.gimp.org?
[04:03] <greezmunkey> Some_Person: I configured win7 to have a work network, because I connect to lots of differant subnets.
[04:03] <boxbeatsy> VinceN: got it.  thanks!
[04:03] <echo310infantry> lol i meant using two monitores
[04:03] <Hakume1> @echo310infantry: Same thing.
[04:04] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: i opened cod. it no longer has an error. but its loading something. black screen so far. FINGERS CROSSED.
[04:04] <echo310infantry> no it just moves the program through the cube
[04:04] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: well the post said it nedded to be no cd cracked to
[04:04] <Hakume1> I've been trying to fix my problem, but I have no idea how.
[04:05] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: it doesnt need a cd crack?!
[04:05] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: it does
[04:05] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: unless its working for you
[04:05] <tim> can anyone help me get to irc.gimp.org?
[04:05] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: oh well its already cracked.
[04:06] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: heh
[04:06] <IdleOne> tim: /server irc.gimp.org
[04:06] <g3d> hi, I have a laptop with a microphone in port. It's working for Skype for example, but I would like to hear the sound from my microphone from my laptop speakers. How can I do that?
[04:06] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: well it work
[04:06] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: its a black screen but when i run my mouse through it, it has white boxes pop up. its the menu i just cant see it! lol.
[04:07] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: probly gotta rerun winetrick to readjust the settings for the upgrade
[04:07] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: close thow
[04:07] <echo310infantry> is it possible to drag a program from one monitor to another?
[04:08] <hxcjonnysniper> gogeta: i appreciate though. imma try to fix this now.
[04:08] <gogeta> hxcjonnysniper: but as i said thes game listed as working barly
[04:08] <uLinux> When I add a PPA 'Software Sources' adds 2 lines: Main and Main (Source Code). Do I need source code thing?
[04:08] <uLinux> in Lucid was different. why?
[04:09] <leprechau> uLinux, totally up to you
[04:09] <leprechau> if you ever want to build pacakges from src ... you need the deb-src line to fetch package sources
[04:09] <leprechau> echo310infantry, of course you can
[04:10] <uLinux> leprechau: hm ok i dont to that
[04:10] <echo310infantry> it just rotates the cube
[04:10] <uLinux> leprechau: so I unmark Source code in Ubuntu software
[04:10] <leprechau> echo310infantry, only if you are holding ctrl+alt when you click an drag
[04:11] <echo310infantry> thats incorrect
[04:11] <gogeta> uLinux: if you whant but it only grabs them if you tell it
[04:11] <leprechau> echo310infantry, then you have changed your hotkey settings for cube rotate
[04:11] <Alvaro-> hi all :D
[04:11] <echo310infantry> no i havent
[04:11] <leprechau> dude...yes you have
[04:12] <uLinux> gogeta: i disabled it now i need to delete every source code entry
[04:12] <leprechau> it's not just magically doing something ... computers only do what they are told
[04:12] <echo310infantry> if u drag a program it just rotates the cube as u drag
[04:12] <Alvaro-> xD
[04:12] <ultron> hi .... my eeepc gets more hot with linux or maybe just with ubuntu than usual... i've been trying to find some solution can you guys have any suggestions?
[04:12] <gogeta> uLinux: if you compiled from source there in the folder you compiled in
[04:13] <uLinux> http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu source code
[04:13] <jmyles> How can I have the apache user (www-data) SSH to another machine and be authenticated by a public key?
[04:13] <Alvaro-> anyone know's how to do a virtualhost with tomcat?
[04:13] <Alvaro-> :S
[04:13] <uLinux> gogeta: i just apt-get or install from synaptic
[04:13] <leprechau> echo310infantry, does your desktop actually span both monitors or do you have the same image mirrored on both?
[04:13] <gogeta> uLinux: then your fine
[04:13] <robsc_> anyone here used gcalcli for google calendar?
[04:14] <leprechau> echo310infantry, and does it just rotate the cube when you come to the edge ... or always?
[04:14] <saha> salam
[04:14] <saha> hi
[04:14] <gogeta> uLinux: you should be able to clean up just by unistalling said source deb
[04:14] <echo310infantry> only when dragging a program
[04:14] <Maahes> I'm having an issue that's a pain: My touchpad won't come back online after suspend. I've tried loading and unloading psmouse, I've tried using tpconfig -x, tpconfig sees it as there, but no it's not listed in /proc/bus/input/devices. I do not have a physical switch to turn my touchpad on and off. Is there a program that can turn my touchpad back on? Also: trying insmod synaptics or synaptics_i2c says
[04:14] <Maahes> there is no module, but zsh autocomplete is giving me synaptics(_i2c) as options.
[04:14] <gogeta> uLinux: but if you never installed any then you have none
[04:14] <echo310infantry> and two seperate desktops
[04:15] <leprechau> echo310infantry, that's not what I asked .... when you drag the window does the cube start rotating right away or only when your pointer gets to the edge of the screen?
[04:15] <uLinux> gogeta: source deb?
[04:15] <gogeta> uLinux: then ill assume you have none
[04:15] <echo310infantry> edge
[04:16] <leprechau> echo310infantry, you don't have your screens setup right .... what gfx card do you have?
[04:16] <gogeta> uLinux: ubuntu instal installs source if it has to do it for a task like a deb that compiles
[04:16] <echo310infantry> 2x gtx470
[04:16] <uLinux> gogeta: sometimes i use .deb files
[04:16] <uLinux> oops ubuntu uses them too:p
[04:16] <leprechau> echo310infantry, are you using the default drivers or nvidia proprietary?
[04:16] <gogeta> uLinux: /debs are bianry 90% of the time
[04:16] <echo310infantry> nvidia
[04:16] <uLinux> gogeta: it's just source entries dont go away
[04:17] <echo310infantry> using x server
[04:17] <uLinux> after disabling source code
[04:17] <leprechau> echo310infantry, open your nvidia-settings
[04:17] <gogeta> uLinux: so why would it
[04:17] <echo310infantry> done
[04:17] <incognito> does freenode have a mysql channel?
[04:17] <uLinux> need to remove manually
[04:17] <leprechau> click on X Server Display Configuration
[04:17] <gogeta> uLinux: why utterly pointless to do so
[04:17] <ultron> hi .... my eeepc gets more hot with linux or maybe just with ubuntu than usual... i've been trying to find some solution can you guys have any suggestions?
[04:17] <echo310infantry> done im on seperate x
[04:18] <gogeta> uLinux: unchecking it disables scanning
[04:18] <leprechau> goto configure and click TwinView
[04:18] <uLinux> yes
[04:18] <gogeta> uLinux: at some point you may need it like for a driver
[04:19] <echo310infantry> its greyd out
[04:19] <gogeta> uLinux: many drivers will use the header source to compile into the kernel
[04:19] <echo310infantry> but i dont want twin anyways
[04:19] <Sofia> Is there a good way to log myself out of gnome over SSH? I have sudo privs on the machine. I just forgot to lock the screen or logout. I'd prefer to do it without rebooting, since I have some long-term stuff running in screen/my SSH connection.
[04:20] <uLinux> gogeta: ok ill just left source for default lines
[04:20] <WilliamHerry> i find a zombie program in my ubuntu, what should i do next
[04:20] <uLinux> and enable source again
[04:20] <gogeta> uLinux: its not gonna take or save space disabled
[04:20] <gogeta> uLinux: or enabled
[04:20] <gogeta> uLinux: its just the repo list
[04:21] <bastidrazor> Sofia: you could restart gdm which will log you out but not have any effect on screened things.. sudo service gdm restart
[04:21] <deker> hi all, i'm having some trouble with grub and mbr
[04:21] <gogeta> uLinux: when you install a app etc it grabs the binanry deb
[04:21] <ggg22> still need help fixing my Ubuntu 10.04 explanation here> http://pastebin.com/CBA8p17k
[04:21] <deker> trying to install ubuntu 10.10, but can't add the entry to windows bootload
[04:21] <gogeta> uLinux: few excep[ptions like drivers
[04:21] <uLinux> yeah
[04:21] <Sofia> bastidrazor: Good enough. Thanks!
[04:22] <gogeta> uLinux: but computer janator can clean up anthing left behind and not used
[04:22] <robsc_> i went back to 10.04  10.10 too buggy for me
[04:22] <uLinux> gogeta: i dont use janitor
[04:22] <uLinux> it's messes up
[04:22] <leprechau> echo310infantry, you have each monitor on it's own card? ... one on each card? ... you actually do want twinview and you want the nvidia driver to recognize both cards
[04:22] <person> hello
[04:22] <gogeta> uLinux: i never had it mess up
[04:22] <person> could anybody help me with an ubuntu issue?
[04:22] <johnjohn101> how do I keep my wireless from being so flaky on 10.10
[04:22] <leprechau> echo310infantry, I have 4 monitors at work and I drag apps between them all the time
[04:22] <gogeta> uLinux: ka removing stuff it shouldent
[04:23] <johnjohn101> seems to disconnect every hour or so
[04:23] <uLinux> gogeta: i've just added a ppa and it automatically added 2 lines..
[04:23] <echo310infantry> hmm  maybe its compiz
[04:23] <gogeta> uLinux: ppa are apt line
[04:23] <leprechau> echo310infantry, naw I have compiz at the office also
[04:23] <echo310infantry> whats ur edge settings?
[04:24] <uLinux> gogeta: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:shutter/ppa
[04:24] <strcpy> Hi. Any comments on why "GNOME Art" is not working properly on ubuntu 10.10 ? 'install' button is disabled .
[04:24] <person> hi echo, would u help me please?
[04:24] <gogeta> uLinux: there yep that will add line there extra repos
[04:24] <leprechau> I set them as twinview .... set the positions and only one as primary
[04:24] <leprechau> echo310infantry, what happens when you click 'detect displays'
[04:24] <gogeta> uLinux: you can add and remove them threw sysanptic if you wish
[04:24] <echo310infantry> hmm then why wont my twinview work?
[04:24] <uLinux> gogeta: but why it adds source line?
[04:25] <gogeta> uLinux: yes if you whant the surce you cna get it
[04:25] <gogeta> can
[04:25] <gogeta> uLinux: but otherwise it will alays go for binary\
[04:25] <person> hi gogeta, would u help me please?
[04:25] <ggg22> still need help fixing my Ubuntu 10.04 explanation here> http://pastebin.com/CBA8p17k
[04:26] <Genieliu> my resolution changs again after i install the ATI drivers
[04:26] <Genieliu> I type the xrandr just to find the DIV-0 is connect
[04:27] <gogeta> uLinux: if you relly whant to you can remove the extra source lines but as i said its not gonna do anything notcable
[04:27] <Genieliu> but i want to use the DIV-1 to be connect ,what command should i type?
[04:27] <person> DAMN, COULD SOMEBODY HELP ME PLEASE?
[04:27] <uLinux> ask | person
[04:27] <uLinux> !ask | person
[04:27] <uLinux> !caps
[04:28] <person> im trying to install cisco vpn client on ubuntu 10.10
[04:28] <person> but Im noob on this, and dont understand so many things
[04:28] <VinceN> person : What a cooincidence i'm working a VPN issue myself
[04:28] <gogeta> < points gun
[04:29] <gogeta> open vpn all
[04:29] <Blue1> ggg22: what type of file system?
[04:29] <Genieliu> How could I use the xrandr command to make the DIV-1 to be connected?
[04:29] <poutine> pers3us, you seem to have difficulty reading english, did you not see where the bot said to ask a question on one line? You still have yet to even ask one answerable question
[04:29] <person> :S I started with ubuntu couple days ago, instead of windows.. and im not good at it yet
[04:29] <poutine> person, you seem to have difficulty reading english, did you not see where the bot said to ask a question on one line? You still have yet to even ask one answerable question
[04:30] <ggg22> Blue1: here i'll take this to a private window and post all the information i posted previously to the other guy i'll get you up to speed on whats going on.
[04:30] <akashj87> Wine is not showing progress, its stuck on "applying changes" in software centre. Please help
[04:30] <Blue1> k
[04:30] <stormy79> Yeah, I'm trying to set up an openVPN server at home on my Ubuntu box, so I can have a secure wireless connection at hotspots.
[04:30] <gogeta> he did ask but cicso junk so i have no clue
[04:30] <person> hur dur..
[04:30] <ylmf> hello
[04:30] <ylmf> so
[04:30] <ylmf> have one
[04:30] <poutine> he did not ask gogeta
[04:30] <stormy79> However, I got stuck on the server configuration file.
[04:31] <gogeta> (11:28:09 PM) person: im trying to install cisco vpn client on ubuntu 10.10
[04:31] <person> ok, could anybody please give me advice on how to install a vpn client on ubuntu?
[04:31] <poutine> person, Read documentation on it
[04:31] <person> I just did it
[04:31] <gujunshan> where am i
[04:31] <person> may I PM u poutine?
[04:32] <poutine> no person, you really fail at how these channels work. You don't join a channel with 1426 other people in it just to private message one person
[04:32] <gogeta> poutine: ssay that to my 5 im windows
[04:33] <person> u mad
[04:33] <jmichaelx> some people fail at common civility
[04:33] <jmichaelx> poutine...
[04:33] <gogeta> poutine: genrely if someone has the answer we do switch to im to ge tout of the clutter
[04:33] <ggg22> still need help fixing my Ubuntu 10.04 explanation here> http://pastebin.com/CBA8p17k
[04:33] <gogeta> out
[04:33] <poutine> oh so you private message me anyways.... I suppose I should have seen that coming...
[04:33] <gogeta> but only if someone as taken on your issue
[04:34] <AbhiJit> !pm
[04:34] <VinceN> So anyway speaking of VPN's.  Does anyone have any clue on how to troubleshoot a "Failed to connect to VPN" error.  Im not sure if this is a settings issue or not.  I can connect to the server when the server is being run out of windows XP but i'm having trouble setting up the PPTPd on the Ubuntu side
[04:34] <person> no, nevermind poutine, im supossed @I fail@
[04:34] <greezmunkey> AbhiJit: thank you...
[04:34] <poutine> I have no interest in helping you whatsoever person, perhaps your problem is that you lack the ability to read in the first place. Perhaps you should hire someone competent, as "basic reading ability" does not appear to be part of your skill set
[04:34] <AbhiJit> :)
[04:34] <gogeta> VinceN: you set ufw for vpn?
[04:35] <person> yes babe, if u say so
[04:35] <gogeta> VinceN: not forggeting ubuntu and xp both have firewalls heh
[04:35] <VinceN> gogeta: No idea what ufw is so.............. No LOL
[04:35] <gogeta> !ufw
[04:35] <person> like Vincen said, i have the same problem on my ubuntu
[04:35] <Evil_Eric> i need help with a terminal command
[04:35] <gogeta> person: well same link for you then
[04:35] <Blue1> Evil_Eric: which?
[04:35] <VinceN> gogeta: I didn't think the firewas was enabled unless I went into firestarter and set one up
[04:36] <VinceN> Is there some way I can disable it for testing?
[04:36] <gogeta> VinceN: been on by defult senc 9x ubuntu
[04:36] <Blue1> VinceN: sudo ufw disable
[04:36] <greezmunkey> Evil_Eric: there are literally thousands of them, pick one! ;)
[04:36] <katarot> ...?
[04:36] <VinceN> gogeta Blue1 Thanks i'll give that a shot and report back
[04:36] <Evil_Eric> im trying to figure out if this is the proper way for this command to look skill -c transmission
[04:36] <gogeta> Blue1: well wouldent go disabling it easy enough to open the vpn ports
[04:37] <Blue1> VinceN: you can always try man
[04:37] <charley__> i have ubuntu installed on device sdc4, I upgrade to 10.10 and grub fails to load.
[04:37] <charley__> what can I do?
[04:37] <Blue1> gogeta: yeah but that can at least tell you if it's a firewall issue.
[04:37] <ggg22> just for clarification my problem is pretty complicated so pm windows are going to have to be a possibility unless everyone in here doesn't care to have paragraphs of text and pasties being broadcasted all over the main page. It is out of respect to the other people with problems.
[04:37] <S0LIDUS> VinceN, I would give OpenVPN a bash, it works very well on Ubuntu and has lots of info and support.
[04:37] <gogeta> VinceN: both xp and ubuntu will need the firewalls open enough for vpn
[04:38] <gogeta> VinceN: or disabled
[04:38] <Blue1> ggg22: no one is going to paw through that much data, esp. if you can't identify the file structure
[04:38] <gogeta> VinceN: disable is a bad idea thow
[04:38] <VinceN> gogeta: well like I said i'm not having issues with the XP server
[04:38] <charley__> can someone help me with this grub problem?
[04:38] <VinceN> But then the wizard may have set it up automatically
[04:38] <Evil_Eric> #terminal
[04:38] <ggg22> Blue1: its called read the pastie it is only six lines long and shows my whole partition table list.
[04:38] <gogeta> VinceN: then ubuntu ufw probly just needs the vppm port opened but disable will be a quick check
[04:39] <VinceN> gogeta: I know disabling is a bad idea but i'm behind a hardware wall.  If it works with the firewall off then I know for sure thats what it is, I can turn it back on and tweak it
[04:39] <Blue1> q.e.d.
[04:39] <Evil_Eric> is there a chan where one can get help with reminal commands
[04:40] <Blue1> VinceN: I am pretty weak with iptables - it's why I cheat and use webmin
[04:40] <Evil_Eric> terminal
[04:40] <VinceN> Blue1 Gogeta : Firewall disabled, Still getting that error
[04:40] <gogeta> Blue1: ufw is a iptables cheat
[04:40] <Blue1> VinceN: then it's not a firewall issue
[04:40] <Blue1> gogeta: indeed
[04:41] <VinceN> Blue1 : Agreed, Anything else I can check?  Is there anyway I can get a more specific error message?
[04:41] <gogeta> VinceN: yo trying to connect to xp
[04:41] <Blue1> VinceN: you've done lowlevel stuph like make sure that each computer can ping each other?
[04:41] <eazseecasur> hello everyone, i need some help please. when i try to visit some sites my screen goes black or completely crazy and when watching tv online this can happen too. anyone have an idea?
[04:42] <VinceN> Blue1 Yes.  Both computers can see each other fine
[04:42] <gogeta> VinceN: xp firewall will block ubuntu being the subnet is diffrent
[04:42] <VinceN> gogeta : Works fine in XP sir
[04:42] <gogeta> VinceN: as in can connect to xp
[04:42] <Evil_Eric> laters all
[04:42] <Blue1> VinceN: that's always a good place to start -- are you using samba?
[04:42] <VinceN> Gogeta : Correct, The machine is dual boot.  I need to be able to connect no matter which OS is booted up at the time.  I can connect to XP no problems
[04:43] <gogeta> VinceN: k
[04:43] <gogeta> VinceN: no not a networking config issue unless the vpn uses its own networking configs be the next place to look
[04:44] <ggg22> still need help fixing my Ubuntu 10.04 explanation here> http://pastebin.com/CBA8p17k
[04:45] <brandon__> anyone ever get a ps3 controller working in ubuntu?
[04:45] <brandon__> i cant seem to get it to patch bluez-util
[04:45] <gogeta> VinceN: so where is your vpn server located
[04:46] <VinceN> Gogeta, Its on my main PC at home.  Which dualboots windows XP and 10.04
[04:46] <jadarite> I have a D-Link DWL-132 USB wireless adapter.  It works fine in windows, but I would like to install it through Unbuntu.  Does anyone know how?
[04:46] <VinceN> I am setting up 2 servers, one in Win XP and one in 10.04 which are on the same box
[04:46] <gogeta> VinceN: well if you have vpm filtering it may be filtering ubuntu
[04:46] <gogeta> VinceN: the mac adress changes
[04:46] <VinceN> Gogeta, No the hardware is the same the MAC should not be changing
[04:47] <eazseecasur> hello everyone, i need some help please. when i try to visit some sites my screen goes black or completely crazy and when watching tv online this can happen too. anyone have an idea? i ll try with chromium know to see what happen
[04:47] <gogeta> VinceN: it changes trust me
[04:47] <avis> so this is the ubuntu's freenode global wide reaction to the suicide bot  stumbleupons assault on me on one of their many blackboxes.  i can't joined a single #ubuntu channel without being  banned.  and #ubuntu-ops wont respond to me, but will tell me to get out.  what happened to me could have not only killed me, it nearly killed my mom, and there was nothing offensive i had done to deserve it.   truth be told, i'm one of the nicest guys in the
[04:47] <avis> world, and in every single ubuntu channel, i've been kicked out and banned.  enjoy your self righteous dictatorship
[04:47] <VinceN> Gogeta, I don't see how since i'm not spoofing but ok
[04:47] <ggg22> still need help fixing my Ubuntu 10.04 explanation here> http://pastebin.com/CBA8p17k
[04:47] <gogeta> VinceN: we get at least 100 people a day cant connect to there isp due to that
[04:48] <VinceN> Gogeta : don't see how that would affect the VPN though.  Its all done through an IP tunnel I don't think the transport layer is involved at that point at least not at that level.
[04:48] <gogeta> VinceN: well if you dont have a mac filter then no it shoudlent efect it
[04:48] <VinceN> Gogeta : I do not have a mac filter I am aware of
[04:48] <Gloch>  say whut?
[04:48] <VinceN> I did not specifically set one yp
[04:49] <celticman82> ok guys im trying to update my alsa drivers but when I get to the "sudo cp ~/alsa*" I get this error cp: target `/home/cheyne/alsa-utils-1.0.23.tar.bz2' is not a directory any help would be greatly appreciated
[04:49] <VinceN> And pardon me, This is transport layer stuff but mac addressing is done at the data link layer I belive so I still don't think that should effect it.
[04:49] <gogeta> VinceN: just trying to elmnate the server rejectinng it due to some rule
[04:50] <VinceN> Gogeta : Is there any way I can see if the server is even receiving the request?
[04:50] <hashashin> hi, my nfs resources will not mount on startup, only then mount -a, i must do more on Ubuntu than putting it in the fstab file?
[04:50] <gogeta> VinceN: ping it maybe
[04:50] <gogeta> VinceN: kinda hard if your not at the server
[04:50] <VinceN> gogeta, I am at the server
[04:50] <gogeta> VinceN: being it probly would be in the logs
[04:51] <ggg22> Really need help fixing ubuntu 10.04 been a 10+ hour problem that continues to deny me normal access to my linux OS. explanation here> http://pastebin.com/CBA8p17k
[04:51] <omar> .?
[04:51] <VinceN> Gogeta: and I can ping the server both on the LAN when connected locally and through the WAN
[04:51] <tecnico> hashashin: I'd recommend using autofs for network resources.  Just my 20cents
[04:52] <gogeta> VinceN: humm
[04:52] <gogeta> VinceN: at least we knoe its at least sending something
[04:52] <gogeta> VinceN: so a client or server rejcting
[04:53] <tecnico> hashashin: the network service must be up by the time the mount happens... that could be the problem you are having.. just a guess.  But with autofs, the NFS or whatever other resource would automatically be mounted when you try to access it. And what's even better, it'd unmount if it is not being used and that'd prevent your system from hanging if you have some network hicup locking the mount
[04:53] <dapz> Hi i'm natively from windows so i'm used to mIRC, but is there a way to see what channels people are idling? Normally this is displayed in the whois on mIRC
[04:54] <gogeta> VinceN: if your connecting to lan the ip for ubuntu will also be diffrent if your using ip filter
[04:54] <VinceN> gogeta: Seems so, Doubt its the client cause it will connect when trying to connect to the XP Server
[04:54] <IdleOne> dapz: on freenode, whois only shows you channels you share with the user.
[04:55] <dapz> Ah
[04:55] <gogeta> VinceN: also check your roughter both machines ip will need a rought to the vpn
[04:55] <dapz> Well I'm looking for any similar channels i guess, namely technical channels for programming/developers
[04:55] <Hobbsee> ggg22: in that picture, is that /home that has the 200gb free space, or /?  I'm wondering if /home is on a separate partition to /, and only /home is full
[04:55] <dapz> do you know of any IdleOne ?
[04:55] <hashashin> tecnico, thanks I'll look at autofs
[04:55] <gogeta> VinceN: assuming you did this fr cp aruldy
[04:55] <gogeta> xp
[04:55] <Hobbsee> ggg22: (and weird!)
[04:56] <greezmunkey> ggg22: have you tried booting into a live cd to investigate your drives further?
[04:56] <AbhiJit> dapz, ##programming
[04:56] <ggg22> Hobbsee: yeah i know this is bad because i don't even know how to start in fixing thsi problem.
[04:56] <IdleOne> dapz: #programming, ##c++ and so on, basically pick a language and try joining the channel.
[04:56] <gogeta> VinceN: most uppnp rughters do this for you but who knoes
[04:56] <VinceN> Gogeta: already covered that base, both OS's are set to obtain the same IP when booted.
[04:56] <VinceN> and the router is forwarding the traffic to the static IP as assigned to the machine
[04:57] <gogeta> VinceN: umm i dont think they will new mac = new ip
[04:57] <VinceN> gogeta: Except i'm not using DHCP
[04:57] <gogeta> VinceN: you can check with ifconfig however
[04:57] <VinceN> Both IS's are static assigned
[04:57] <gogeta> VinceN: ah
[04:57] <VinceN> O
[04:57] <VinceN> OS's even
[04:57] <Hobbsee> ggg22: yeah, i'm trying to figure that out.  answer my question?  :)
[04:57] <gogeta> VinceN: so not a roughting issue
[04:58] <ggg22> Hobbsee: blackshirt the previous guy suggested i tried making a new user account and logging into it using alt+ fn but i get lots of weird messages. he had to go so can i just give you what i am getting when i try to bring up log in windows? yeah did gparted already and it didn't fidn anything.
[04:58] <gogeta> VinceN: so we are down to client being incomptable somehow
[04:58] <VinceN> gogeta : Doubt it, I really think this is a config issue with the pptpd on Ubuntu but I have no way of finding out what it is with this no specific error code
[04:58] <gogeta> VinceN: yea seems to have coverd the rest
[04:59] <Hobbsee> ggg22: if you could run df -h -T and pastebin it from the bad machine, that'd be great.  also, a pastebin of those errors would be great if you can (or roughly what they say)
[04:59] <greezmunkey> VinceN: what are you vpn'ing to?
[04:59] <gogeta> VinceN: shoudk be a log file for ppptd
[04:59] <maco> Hobbsee: i didnt know about -T! you get a gold star!
[04:59] <deker> anyone know much about grub and mbr?
[04:59] <Hobbsee> maco: it's useful :)
[05:00] <CaneToad> on Ubuntu [Maverick and older too] what do you do when your wireless internet stops and iwlagn says "MAC is in deep sleep" over and over in the dmesg output ?
[05:00] <socky> Hey Guys,  I'm running ubuntu 10.10 and want to add itunes support to my windows virtual machine that is running via virtual box.  I've found a couple of guides that give the exact same info so I get the same error.  This is the guide: "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=970628", and my error happens when I do "make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=`pwd` modules"  I get Building modules, stage 2.
[05:00] <socky>   MODPOST 0 modules
[05:00] <ggg22> Hobbsee: okay i get you that in meantime here is some of what you asked> http://pastebin.com/ufAkMC21 patition table (fdisk -h)
[05:00] <ggg22> http://pastebin.com/0CLiG05Y (df -h) return values
[05:00] <gogeta> VinceN: if your PPP setup doesn't work right away, you should look in this log file. If the log messages don't help, you can also turn on extra debugging output using the debug option. This output makes pppd log the contents of all control packets sent or received to syslog.  All messages then go to the daemon facility
[05:01] <s0dium> Can anyone please tell me why I have a clicking sound in Ubuntu Meerkat?
[05:01] <giiker> has anyone edited 3gp videos? what app did you use?! i Just need one to paste 3gp videos...
[05:01] <gogeta> VinceN: http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_network/x7261.html
[05:01] <deker> anyone here using windows bootloader?
[05:01] <gogeta> how to make it log and how to get to it
[05:02] <Hobbsee> deker: ew.  usually you want to  do it the other way
[05:02] <gogeta> VinceN: then you will have detailed errors
[05:02] <deker> Hobbsee: yeah, i just might have to
[05:02] <deker> but want to see if it's doable the other way
[05:02] <Hobbsee> ggg22: hm, where's /home?
[05:02] <deker> but, it's troublesome
[05:02] <deker> i need help!
[05:03] <Hobbsee> deker: you're highly unlikely to get help on making a windows bootloader work with linux here, tbh
[05:03] <Hobbsee> ggg22: what does 'sudo mount /home' give you?
[05:04] <uLinux> what 'sudo su TEST' does?
[05:04] <deker> Hobbsee: yeah, i figured it was worth a shot   =)>
[05:04] <Hobbsee> ggg22: gnome will throw many errors if it doesn't have /home to store temporary stuff into
[05:04] <uLinux> go to folder TEST?
[05:04] <uLinux> asroto
[05:04] <giiker> anyone knows of an app to edit 3gp videos?
[05:04] <gogeta> VinceN: i guess it has logs by defuly but for more deail it tells you how
[05:04] <gogeta> defult
[05:04] <ggg22> Hobbsee: here i will fidn where /home
[05:04] <chasejacks> can someone please take a look at this pastebin and tell me what's wrong?  I'm trying to convert some flv's using WinFF
[05:04] <chasejacks> http://pastebin.com/90tAi1kW
[05:05] <DHR> can you easily switch an installed 10.10 system to using grub-legacy?  I'm getting unhappy with grub2.
[05:05] <chasejacks> seems like something very simple i'm missing?
[05:05] <dapz> Is anyone really good with wireless issues in Ubuntu, I need some help desperately
[05:05] <ggg22> Hobbsee: it is inside my regular user profile i can tell you that much it is /home/sarge1221?
[05:05] <Hobbsee> chasejacks: you need to run it as root, for some reason
[05:05] <gogeta> chasejacks: permission error for some reasion you need to sudo
[05:05] <chasejacks> hobbsee: how do i do that?
[05:05] <Hobbsee> chasejacks: sudo <what you ran before>
[05:05] <gogeta> chasejacks: sudo
[05:06] <chasejacks> but i'm using Winff via the GUI
[05:06] <chasejacks> i'm not good with the terminal
[05:06] <chasejacks> that terminal opened automatically
[05:06] <uLinux> oh
[05:06] <gogeta> chasejacks: your sh script is for term
[05:06] <uLinux> sudo su TEST is for user TEST
[05:06] <chasejacks> gogeta: what do you mean?
[05:06] <chasejacks> gogeta: brand new to linux
[05:06] <Hobbsee> ggg22: it's got to be there somewhere, try mounting it manually with the 'sudo mount /home' and see what it says?
[05:07] <gogeta> chasejacks: its not a .sh?
[05:07] <chasejacks> i dont know what you're reffering to
[05:07] <chasejacks> i open WinFF via the applications menu
[05:07] <gogeta> chasejacks: oh
[05:08] <gogeta> chasejacks: well i would use something else its premessions are all wrong
[05:08] <chasejacks> gogeta: when i hit "convert" that terminal opens automatically
[05:08] <Maddog94d> has anyone had a problem with thr rtl8187b wifi card
[05:08] <ggg22> okay it says it cannot find /home in /etcfstab or etc/mtab
[05:08] <gogeta> chasejacks: it doesent ask you to go su
[05:08] <gogeta> chasejacks: well thers better programs then winff
[05:09] <gogeta> chasejacks: avidmux handbrake etc
[05:09] <chasejacks> gogeta: whats my alternative?
[05:09] <ggg22> Hobbsee: okay it says it cannot find /home in /etcf/stab or etc/mtab
[05:09] <gogeta> chasejacks: you can try this but thers lots of others http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
[05:09] <Hobbsee> ggg22: oh, how have you booted to get to that shell?
[05:10] <chasejacks> gogeta: i'm trying to convert flv's to mp3's or wav's
[05:10] <Novice> boot problems with 10.10
[05:10] <gogeta> chasejacks: avidemux supports that i beleve
[05:10] <blakkheim> chasejacks: man ffmpeg
[05:10] <Hobbsee> ggg22: oh, your /home is on sdb1, isn't it...
[05:10] <gogeta> chasejacks: think it does video and autio
[05:10] <chasejacks> blakkheim: i dont know how to operte ffmep
[05:11] <Novice> whenever i install ubuntu freshly,it worls fine for 2 days. After that, i get  grub problem stating that it couldn't go into the system
[05:11] <blakkheim> chasejacks: exactly, that's why you run "man ffmpeg"
[05:11] <Hobbsee> ggg22: ie, on the second hard drive
[05:11] <tecnico> chasejacks: type  in your terminal   " ls -al /usr/bin/ffmpeg"
[05:11] <gogeta> chasejacks: well if your ripping off youtube thers a web way
[05:11] <ggg22> Hobbsee: told you it is complex problem ^_^ i went to boot linux as usual and it said somethign about sdb1 not being able ot mount so i eventually picked option m or manual modify to fix it from there i removed the restored files and then tried startx to see if it worked. It did i am in the root account for linux right now and everythign works except software center
[05:11] <chasejacks> gogeta: that's exactly what i'm trying to od
[05:11] <gogeta> chasejacks: pop in url it gives you a mp3
[05:11] <hashashin> tecnico, autofs seems work like a charm, thanks again.
[05:11] <chasejacks> gogeta: i have download helper...pointed to ffmpeg but it doenst work for some reason
[05:11] <Novice> help me
[05:11] <gogeta> chasejacks: http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
[05:12] <Novice> Hey u hackers ut der
[05:12] <gogeta> chasejacks: sorry http://www.video2mp3.net/
[05:12] <Novice> Or i will switch to Windows
[05:12] <gogeta> chasejacks: pop in url i always use high qualty and done
[05:12] <Hobbsee> ggg22: ah
[05:12] <blakkheim> gogeta: ripping from youtube will never be "high quality" nor will any kind of mp3
[05:12] <Novice> Dont keep blabbering to yourself
[05:12] <Novice> HELP ME NOW
[05:12] <chasejacks> tecnico: still getting an error
[05:13] <Novice> U people suck
[05:13] <gogeta> blakkheim: acully yea that one will rip hd
[05:13] <Hobbsee> ggg22: there are two disks on that machine, right?
[05:13] <Novice> Ubuntu help SUCKS
[05:13] <Hobbsee> Novice: cya
[05:13] <tecnico> hashashin: great.  And take a look at the difference between soft and hard mounts when it comes to NFS..  it makes a difference when the network connection goes down.. your process table ends up locking and you have to do lazy unmounts .. it's a nightmare
[05:13] <gogeta> blakkheim: ell hes ripping youtube made it easy for him
[05:13] <blakkheim> gogeta: doesn't matter, the audio quality is still horrible
[05:13] <tecnico> chasejacks: I was trying to see the output of that command to look at the permissions of ffmpeg
[05:13] <gogeta> blakkheim: well no matter if he does a web rip or dl and convert it will be the same heh
[05:13] <ggg22> Hobbsee: only this root account works somethign about useraccounts are not working though i can access all the user account files there not corrupt or anythign i just log in to user accounts on standard boot or try alt+fn of anything kind.
[05:14] <tecnico> chasejacks: you could try:  chmod o+rx /usr/bin/ffmpeg
[05:14] <hashashin> tecnico, ok
[05:14] <ggg22> Hobbsee: yeah it is duo booted has windows 7 and linux ubuntu 10.04
[05:14] <Hobbsee> ggg22: yeah, the problem is that the standard accounts want stuff on the disk that didn't mount properly (sdb), and so cry loudly
[05:14] <chasejacks> tecnico: thanks, here it is http://pastebin.com/dHPRBvzQ
[05:14]  * Hobbsee scratches head
[05:15] <chasejacks> tecnico: chmod: changing permissions of `/usr/bin/ffmpeg': Operation not permitted
[05:15] <winguilin> hi people, if i upgrade from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 i will lost my data or programs?
[05:15] <gogeta> chasejacks: well i gave you a easy way to get the job done heh
[05:15] <Hobbsee> winguilin: no
[05:15] <chasejacks> gogeta: i appreciate it very much
[05:16] <chasejacks> gogeta: thank you :)
[05:16] <ggg22> Hobbsee: i tried windows and thankfully it is fine only user accounts under ubuntu have problems.
[05:16] <tecnico> chasejacks: oh.. gotta prefix that with 'sudo'  so,  sudo <cmd>
[05:16] <Hobbsee> ggg22: yeah, it would be
[05:16] <winguilin> nice
[05:17] <chasejacks> tecnico: still permission denied, im baffled
[05:17] <Hobbsee> ggg22: what does sudo fdisk /dev/sdb1 output?
[05:17] <Exploiter> ggg22, linux is not the problem, user is(ALWAYS)
[05:17] <Hobbsee> Exploiter: if only that were the truth.  linux has bugs
[05:18] <gogeta> chasejacks: of course they are right no matter how you do it youtube audio sucks
[05:18] <Exploiter> Hobbsee yeah?? liike there are millions of bugg which bothers you.. windows have 1000 times more bugs.. to be specific
[05:18] <tecnico> chasejacks: the output of your ls  command seems to indicate that /usr/bin/ffmpeg is a directory and not a binary file
[05:18] <ggg22> Hobbsee: I tried ti and it said ti was unable to open /dev/sdb1
[05:18] <Hobbsee> ggg22: rats
[05:19] <tecnico> chasejacks: type   sudo file /usr/bin/ffmpeg       . Does it say directory?
[05:19] <gogeta> tecnico: only 1 way that happond and im just gonna stay quite
[05:19] <tecnico> that bad?
[05:19] <chasejacks> tecnico: good call ,yes it does...what does that mean?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> ggg22: oh, plug the external drive back in, then run it
[05:19] <gogeta> tecnico: means he didnt use apt-get and probly a source
[05:20] <chasejacks> tecnico: does that mean it's not installed properly?  I did a recompile and followed the steps thoughorly
[05:20] <gogeta> tecnico: ding ding ding
[05:20] <greezmunkey> Give that man a het!
[05:20] <greezmunkey> hat
[05:21] <chasejacks> gogeta: how do i get ffmpeg installed properly, the latest one with all the features?
[05:21] <chasejacks> gogeta:  i followed all the steps
[05:21] <ggg22> this is satin's external hardrive i pray this thing doesn't destroy want little linux os i got left T_T
[05:21] <gogeta> chasejacks: well first you have to remove that botched install
[05:21] <tecnico> chasejacks: well, I'd recommend moving that away (sudo mv /usr/bin/ffmpeg /tmp/ffmpeg_screwed)  and installing ffmpeg with apt-get install ffmpeg
[05:21] <Hobbsee> ggg22: it shouldn't
[05:22] <gogeta> chasejacks: and for refrence later ubuntu is not ment for source compiles avoide when possable
[05:22] <zer010> hello all
[05:23] <ggg22> Hobbsee: it still says unable to open even with external attached.
[05:23] <zer010> I don't come to irc very often, but I needed some quick help
[05:23] <chasejacks> gogeta: does the apt-install have all the features?
[05:24] <gogeta> chasejacks: well latest for ubuntu and any ubunu apps will use
[05:24] <gogeta> chasejacks: flc support has been around for ages so
[05:24] <zer010> I need the command to install GNOME in Fedora...I know, NOT an Ubuntu specific question
[05:24] <gogeta> flv\
[05:24] <gogeta> zer010: yum install grub
[05:24] <AbhiJit> zer010, #fedora
[05:24] <gogeta> zer010: yum install gnome sorry
[05:25] <ggg22> Hobbsee: though i checked the computer tab and the external drive doesn't appear to be listed. Thats another thing is all things usb are not functioning in this low shell setting i guess or there are errors one?
[05:25] <zer010> I figure it's as easy as su yum install gnome2
[05:25] <zer010> Thanks
[05:25] <Hobbsee> ggg22: yeah, it probably doesn't function
[05:25] <chasejacks> gogeta:  http://pastebin.com/eWu1QdAZ
[05:25] <zer010> abhijit
[05:25] <chasejacks> tecnico: http://pastebin.com/eWu1QdAZ
[05:25] <AbhiJit> zer010, yes?
[05:25] <tecnico> chasejacks: Apt-get installed packages are your safe bet since. With more experience and time  you could install ffpeg from source if you want.  Basically you untarred the ffmpeg source directory directly in /usr/bin.  Next time untar it somewher else, like ~/source (mkdir ~/sources). Then follow the instructions.
[05:25] <chasejacks> you guys are unbelievably helpful, thank you so much
[05:25] <gogeta> chasejacks: thats fine they are not nedded anymore
[05:25] <zer010> yes
[05:26] <zer010> You suggested #fedora
[05:26] <AbhiJit> zer010, yah ask in #fedora channel
[05:26] <chasejacks> but how do i get rid of them now?
[05:26] <gogeta> zer010: yep they have a chat to
[05:26] <zer010>  thanks
[05:26] <AbhiJit> zer010, welcome
[05:26] <gogeta> chasejacks: as it said to do
[05:27] <gogeta> chasejacks: sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:27] <ggg22> Hobbsee: is there away to possibly just reinstall all the files that the boots want or would that require a complete reinstallation?
[05:27] <maddog94d> hoping to get some help with my wifi
[05:27] <chasejacks> gogeta: oops didn't see that, this ubuntu thing is cool
[05:27] <chasejacks> gogeta: this is my first day on it :)
[05:27] <gogeta> chasejacks: it tend to notec junk and wanna remove it
[05:28] <chasejacks> gogeta: how will i know where ffmpeg is installed?
[05:28] <AbhiJit> !manual | chasejacks
[05:28] <gogeta> chasejacks: computer janator is a gui for that as well
[05:28] <gogeta> chasejacks: its installed
[05:28] <gogeta> chasejacks: being thers no ui you can tyor ffmpeg
[05:28] <gogeta> type
[05:28] <gogeta> chasejacks: but your facret app should work
[05:28] <chasejacks> how do i know where its located
[05:28] <maddog94d> i have a problem where all the sudden it will disable the wifi card
[05:28] <gogeta> facret
[05:29] <maddog94d> connects just fine on boot
[05:29] <AbhiJit> chasejacks, whereis ffmpeg
[05:29] <chasejacks> AbhiJit: no idea...
[05:29] <tecnico> :) :)
[05:29] <AbhiJit> ahh
[05:29] <AbhiJit> :)
[05:29] <AbhiJit> chasejacks, no
[05:29] <chasejacks> thats a command?
[05:29] <chasejacks> lol
[05:29] <AbhiJit> chasejacks, thats the command you have to type in termianl to know where is ffmpeg
[05:30] <gogeta> chasejacks: yes or you can do updatedb then locate ffmpeg
[05:30] <AbhiJit> :)
[05:30] <chasejacks> ffmpeg: /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg /usr/share/ffmpeg
[05:30] <AbhiJit> chasejacks, first one
[05:30] <gogeta> chasejacks: thats where it is
[05:30] <chasejacks> thanks guys for being so patient
[05:30] <chasejacks> and helpful
[05:30] <AbhiJit> chasejacks, the one with '/bin' is executable. generaly
[05:31] <Hobbsee> ggg22: hmm.  what did you run for the "With failure I then tried a manual solution where it takes ubuntu into a lower shell state or whatever and the first thing i did was from command prompt i removed every item backed up from the external harddrive through use of terminal".  Something strange is going on
[05:31] <chasejacks> hmmm
[05:31] <chasejacks> i'm pointing the firefox extension Download helper to that directory and its not working
[05:31] <DuckMaestro> im reading a guide on installing ubuntu on latest mac mini. it recommends installing rEFIT before the ubuntu installation, to manage booting.     does that all sound legit/reasonable to you guys?
[05:31] <gogeta> chasejacks: if you did the same misinstall to winff its also in apt-get
[05:32] <gogeta> chasejacks: notee you dont need to use the console to install packages there is 2 gui sysanptic and ubuntu store
[05:32] <tecnico> DuckMaestro: why dual boot? I'd install ubuntu on a virtual machine and have both worlds.. no need to mess up with your mac
[05:33] <ggg22> Hobbsee: okay what i did was go to the directories that i had restored from the external in case they were corrupt and did rm since rmdir wasn't working for me. after i rm all the files i nthe directory i then deleted the diretory itself and i ls it to see the directory is gone. it was in my home folder.
[05:33] <Hobbsee> ggg22: aiee
[05:33] <gogeta> chasejacks: i just use it being its quick if you knoe excaly what you whant
[05:33] <DuckMaestro> tecnico: i have a specific test case i need to do for work and i need to run native without VM. thanks for the suggestion though.
[05:33] <S0LIDUS> Does anyone know the 10GBE support in ubuntu server 10.04?
[05:33] <chasejacks> gogeta: do you know anything about the extension for firefox download helper?
[05:34] <gogeta> chasejacks: i use downthemall
[05:34] <gogeta> chasejacks: its the orignal and fast
[05:34] <chasejacks> gogeta: how do i get winff to work now
[05:34] <gogeta> chasejacks: launch it?
[05:34] <ggg22> Hobbsee: one thing that might be related to this is those files was the only way i could open them was to use root i guess ti was soemthing with photorec? the directory had the pad locked symbol for root priviledges
[05:35] <Hobbsee> ggg22: wouldn't surprise me
[05:35] <chasejacks> all i need
[05:35] <chasejacks> is the path to FFplay.exe
[05:35] <Hobbsee> ggg22: sudo mkdir /home && sudo mkdir /home/username && sudo chown username:username /home/username
[05:35] <gogeta> chasejacks: from your whereis command
[05:35] <allu2> ggg22: your trying to remove folder?
[05:35] <gogeta> chasejacks: ffplay.exe hua
[05:36] <ggg22> allu2: correction already removed via terminal running low shell.
[05:36] <chasejacks> ffplay: /usr/local/bin/ffplay
[05:36] <chasejacks> hua:
[05:36] <allu2> ggg22: ah ok
[05:36] <gogeta> chasejacks: you said .exe
[05:36] <Hobbsee> ggg22: if the above works without errors, you should be able to reboot back into a user account
[05:37] <chasejacks> yes, winff is asking for the path to FFPlay.exe
[05:37] <gogeta> chasejacks: but you got it
[05:37] <S0LIDUS> Can anyone help with 10GBE support in 10.04?
[05:37] <gogeta> chasejacks: umm linux does not do .exe
[05:37] <gogeta> chasejacks: are you using a windows app
[05:37] <chasejacks> not at all, just using winff
[05:37] <gogeta> via wine
[05:37] <chasejacks> on ubuntu
[05:37] <chasejacks> no
[05:38] <AbhiJit> S0LIDUS, what is 10GBE?
[05:38] <ramdhan> tes
[05:38] <gogeta> chasejacks: maybe its a typo from the port no worrys
[05:38] <S0LIDUS> AbhiJit, 10 Gigabit Ethernet.
[05:38] <AbhiJit> oh
[05:38] <gogeta> chasejacks: is a windows app ported to linux
[05:38] <chasejacks> gogeta: well i typed in that path and it sill says it cant find it
[05:38] <Hobbsee> S0LIDUS: should just work
[05:38] <chasejacks> ffplay: /usr/local/bin/ffplay
[05:39] <gogeta> chasejacks: shure you did install the windows version
[05:39] <chasejacks> gogeta: how could i, i don't have wine
[05:39] <gogeta> chasejacks: well do wheris ffplay
[05:39] <S0LIDUS> Hobbsee, Does Ubuntu support it ?
[05:39] <ggg22> Hobbsee: quick question but for username:username it actually is username right or do i make them what i want to call the account?
[05:39] <Hobbsee> S0LIDUS: should do
[05:39] <rinku_kokiri> where are virtualbox headers found?
[05:39] <Hobbsee> ggg22: the latter :)
[05:40] <gogeta> where sorry
[05:40] <S0LIDUS> Hobbsee, Thanks ! ; )
[05:40] <greezmunkey> S0LIDUS: wouldn't that simply be a matter of supporting the hardware?
[05:40] <chasejacks> /usr/local/bin/ffplay
[05:40] <ggg22> Hobbsee: okay so for tiem being i make an account called guest which is done then i would do guest:guest /home/username?
[05:40] <gogeta> chasejacks: thats the path
[05:41] <chasejacks> gogeta: lol i was in the windows tab
[05:41] <gogeta> chasejacks: think you had a extra space
[05:41] <Hobbsee> ggg22: oh, i was thinking the username you used before.  or does /home/usernamefrombefore still exist?
[05:41] <gogeta> chasejacks: lol
[05:41] <ramdhan> yup
[05:41] <S0LIDUS> greezmunkey, Yep, but I can't remember the hardware support page for ubuntu 10.04.
[05:41] <chasejacks> gogeta: but its still saying it cant find ffplay
[05:41] <Maahes> I'm having a really sucky problem with my touchpad, and I have tried multiple things, but none work, long description here: http://pastebin.com/DH8zCpGY if anyone can help
[05:41] <rinku_kokiri> hei i ran svn co http://www.virtualbox.org/svn/vbox/trunk/include/ where does it place the src/headers
[05:42] <ggg22> Hobbsee: Yeah sarge1221 still exists was going to ask is it best to tyry to make a new account or you think this will fix sarge1221?
[05:42] <Maahes> rinku_kokiri: in the root of the folder you ran svn co in.
[05:42] <rinku_kokiri> ok
[05:42] <rinku_kokiri> ty
[05:42] <Hobbsee> ggg22: oh, well, if that still exists, try 'sudo chown -R sarge1221:sarge1221 /home/sarge1221' and you should be good.  hopefully
[05:42]  * Hobbsee thought that was gone
[05:43] <gogeta> chasejacks: darn thing
[05:43] <ramdhan> tes
[05:43] <ggg22> Hobbsee: one second should i backup my files before doing this i have alot of stuff still in that acount espicially the home folder itself.
[05:43] <Hobbsee> ggg22: i'tll be fine, it's only changing permissions
[05:44] <Hobbsee> ggg22: would not try rm or something, though ;)
[05:44] <gogeta> chasejacks: i probly would go with avidemux
[05:44] <Maahes> Hobbsee: you wouldn't happen to know anything about making a live usb require a user with a password would you? I tried making a user earlier, with a password, but gdm kicked me out for not being in the "nopassword" group. Longshot, but I remember you being knowledgeable :)
[05:44] <gogeta> chasejacks: if thats being stubbern
[05:44] <dude> how do i change loginscreen resolution?
[05:45] <Hobbsee> Maahes: unless you set it somewhere in usb creator, i've got no idea
[05:45] <pitlimit> My wireless doesn't seem to be working on my newly install Ubuntu - can anyone help me with this?
[05:46] <Hobbsee> Maahes: course, you could always sudo adduser <user> nopassword, but i'm not sure if that would be permanent
[05:46] <gogeta> chasejacks: aviedemux i in apt-get as well
[05:46] <gogeta> avidemux
[05:47] <ggg22> Hobbsee: okay i think it did it. anyway to test it or will i have to just reboot as normal?
[05:47] <realeyes> anyone know about deving for android?
[05:47] <poutine> realeyes, yeah shoot
[05:47] <Hobbsee> ggg22: just reboot as normal
[05:47] <tempas> what does modified BSD license mean?
[05:47] <realeyes> how do i start? I've got ubuntu 10.10 and a droid incredible
[05:47] <ggg22> Hobbsee okay i will do that right now then.
[05:48] <Hobbsee> ggg22: excellent :)
[05:48] <AbhiJit> tempas, ask in #bsd or #freebsd
[05:48] <Maahes> tempas: uh, it means they modified it. Read the text.
[05:48] <poutine> realeyes, http://developer.android.com/index.html
[05:48] <tempas> Maahes: where can i read it?
[05:48] <Maahes> an easy way would be to do: diff currentbsdversion.txt thatliscense.txt
[05:48] <tempas> i know nothing about licensing
[05:48] <Maahes> tempas: for what program?
[05:48] <hxcjonnysniper> is it possible to mount a folder onto my desktop?
[05:49] <tempas> Maahes: its an open source project on Github
[05:49] <realeyes> poutine: any other way to go about it? ;/
[05:49] <airlynx> I have no idea where to start with this, I'm using Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and whenever I use programs that require audio (except JACK) the audio will quit after about 15 minutes, e.g. in Audacious this happens if I select PulseAudio or ALSA but if I set up and use JACK it works just fine
[05:49] <Maahes> tempas: its probably in the git directory. what project is it?
[05:49] <tempas> https://github.com/kriszyp/pintura
[05:50] <porthose_> where can I find documentation on how to customize unity?
[05:50] <poutine> realeyes, not really, you should be familiar with java. I use ant and vim for deving, that site will tell you the API and requirements
[05:50] <realeyes> how do i learn java?
[05:50] <ggg22> Hobbsee: thats funny seems there is no off button how do oyu restart ubuntu from terminal?
[05:50] <denysonique> realeyes, you don't learn java
[05:50] <poutine> beyond the scope of an IRC channel realeyes
[05:50] <AbhiJit> tempas, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_licenses
[05:50] <Hobbsee> ggg22: oh.  sudo reboot
[05:50] <denysonique> realeyes, learn python
[05:50] <poutine> don't learn python...
[05:51]  * realeyes c.c;
[05:51] <denysonique> java only eats up memory
[05:51] <hxcjonnysniper> is it possible to mount a folder onto my desktop?
[05:51] <denysonique> hxcjonnysniper, mount?
[05:51] <denysonique> hxcjonnysniper, man mount, see the --bind option
[05:51] <poutine> enjoy your android dev with python denysonique
[05:51] <Maahes> tempas: Pintura is part of the Persevere project, and therefore is licensed under the AFL or BSD license <---bottom of the github page
[05:52] <hxcjonnysniper> denysonique: bind option?
[05:52] <ggg22> lets hope that fixed it. here the splash screen.... it didn't fix it T_T
[05:52] <AbhiJit> tempas, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_license
[05:52] <denysonique> poutine, ?
 anyone know about deving for android? ... <denysonique> realeyes, learn python
[05:53] <ggg22> Hobbsee: okay here is the exact message "The disk drive for /mnt/sdb1 is not ready yet or not present"  "continue to wait; or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[05:54] <Hobbsee> ggg22: s
[05:54] <realeyes> uh
[05:54] <denysonique> no
[05:54] <realeyes> I'm confued.
[05:54] <denysonique> nou, I only read this line <realeyes> how do i learn java?
[05:54] <realeyes> Confused*
[05:54] <tempas> and sometimes it says i have to have a CLA to contribute .. why is that?
[05:54] <tempas> whats the all about
[05:54] <denysonique> but python works on android too
[05:54] <realeyes> Maybe this whole 'dev for android' isn't my thing :P
[05:54] <AbhiJit> m going
[05:54] <AbhiJit> :/
[05:54] <AbhiJit> bye
[05:55] <ggg22> Hobbsee: it seems to have frozen and is not loading to top it off its running 100% trying to burn itself up.
[05:55] <Hobbsee> ggg22: argh.  what's top showing as the culprit?
[05:56] <tempas> The Apache license has some extra benefits over the BSD or MIT X11 license style licenses. The Apache 2.0 licenses contains a patent grant, which means that at least the authors of the code are giving you any rights that you need to any patents they might own that happen to be in the code you are using.
[05:56] <ramdhan> tess
[05:56] <ggg22> Hobbsee: don't know can't run top from splash screen. At least i dont think you can
[05:56] <tempas> it seems that Apache license is better than MIT and BSD to use
[05:56] <Hobbsee> ggg22: good point
[05:56] <ndxtg> I'm using ubuntu 10.10 . Whenever I click on shutdown/logoff/restart, it just logs out to the login screen and it says "currently logged in", like the switch user screen. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:57] <Maahes> I'm having a really sucky problem with my touchpad, and I have tried multiple things, but none work, long description here: http://pastebin.com/DH8zCpGY if anyone can help
[05:57] <ggg22> Hobbsee: god windows got blue screen of death and linux ubuntu now has the purple  screen of doom.
[05:57] <Hobbsee> ggg22: try unplug the external, then reboot, hit 'e' at grub and take out "quiet splash", see if that shows anything?
[05:58] <Hobbsee> ggg22: bwah?  that shouldn't effect windows
[05:58] <ggg22> Hobbsee: oh well i unplugged it before loading should i try ti with the external plugged in?
[05:58] <Hobbsee> ggg22: oh, so it's going and looking for it.  mind pastebinning /etc/fstab?
[05:59] <pitlimit> can anyone help me get my wireless working?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> Maahes: quickest solution will probably be reboot
[05:59] <maco> ggg22: um, bsod and kernel panics *should* only happen in two cases. 1) hardware bug  2) driver bug.  given the likelihood of both OSes finding driver bugs simultaneously... :-/
[05:59] <ggg22> Hostbee: can't still frozen on splash screen. it stopped trying to load.
[06:00] <denysonique> Maahes, try with synclient
[06:00] <Hobbsee> ggg22: reset on the panel?
[06:00] <ggg22> Hobbsee: oh you mean hard reset okay
[06:00] <Hobbsee> ggg22: yeah
[06:01] <ramdhan> tes
[06:01] <MACscr_lappy> im getting the dreaded blinking cursor when trying to install ubuntu on my new mobo/ram. Happens before i can even enter anything. It boots the cd and even shows the first splash screen  (the simple purple one with two graphics at the bottom), but after that it goes to the eternal blinking cursor. Any ideas?
[06:01] <ggg22> Hobbsee:trying this time with external plugged in.
[06:01] <denysonique> Maahes, synclient TouchpadOff=0
[06:01] <denysonique> MACscr_lappy, try the alternative install cd
[06:01] <denysonique> MACscr_lappy, or burn another one
[06:01] <ggg22> Hobbsee: what about recovery mode i never tried but do you think it might boot up?
[06:01] <Hobbsee> ggg22: you can try
[06:02] <MACscr_lappy> denysonique: ive tried an install cd for ubuntu 10.4 that i have used before and another 10.10 one. both had the exact same results =/
[06:03] <MACscr_lappy> but i havent tried alternative
[06:03] <ggg22> Hobbsee: jeeze man when it fails boot off a recovery mode thats terrible.
[06:04] <Hobbsee> ggg22: quite
[06:04] <ggg22> Hobbsee: so much for fail safe what the heck did that external hardrive do to kill my linux like some crazed penguin assassin...
[06:05] <Hobbsee> ggg22: wish i knew...i haven't been able to find info about what that actually does
[06:05] <ggg22> Hobbsee: so i get the toughest fix of the month then i guess?
[06:06] <Hobbsee> ggg22: heh :)  I don't normally help out here, so i don't know.  but it's one of the more obscure ones
[06:07] <jadarite> I have a D-Link DWL-132 USB wireless adapter.  It works fine in windows, but I would like to install it through Unbuntu.  Does anyone know how?
[06:07] <Hobbsee> ggg22: if nothing obvious makes itself known, i'd backup the /home directory on the machine, and reinstall.  at least you should have your data
[06:08] <Hobbsee> !ndiswrapper | jadarite
[06:08] <greezmunkey> crazed penguin assassin! Heh (sorry man)
[06:09] <Hobbsee> jadarite: by the look of it, that card isn't supported under ubuntu.  it may be by using ndiswrapper and windows drivers
[06:09] <MACscr_lappy> if i change my mobo's, will my UUID changes for my hard drives that have Ubuntu installed?
[06:09] <Hobbsee> MACscr_lappy: no
[06:09] <archer> help me with switching off CONFIG_PAX_MEMORY_UDEREF
[06:09] <archer> I don't know how to
[06:10] <MACscr_lappy> Hobbsee: hmm, seems when i try to boot to my existing OS, it says it cant find that UUID
[06:10] <ggg22> Hobbsee: okay at the end of linux recovery it has [  23.953054] shpchp 0000:00:01.0: Cannot reserve MMIO region /dev/sda5: clean, 579747/18743296 files, 18554644/74945225 blocks
[06:10] <Hobbsee> MACscr_lappy: did you repartition at all?
[06:10] <MACscr_lappy> Hobbsee: nope, because all the drives are the same, even same order
[06:12] <ggg22> Hobbsee: anything significant because that is what it is getting stuck on for recovery mode.
[06:12] <Hobbsee> ggg22: no idea, googling
[06:12] <gogeta> jadarite: your card needs nids wrapper
[06:13] <Hobbsee> MACscr_lappy: check ls -lh /dev/disk/by-uuid and /etc/fstab, modify /etc/fstab to match the values in the disks
[06:13] <archer> help me with switching off CONFIG_PAX_MEMORY_UDEREF please
[06:13] <gogeta> jadarite:
[06:14] <gogeta> jadarite: http://bigpixel.com/?p=167
[06:14] <Hobbsee> ggg22: i can't tell
[06:14] <Dreamglider> can i move /home to a seperate partition after i installed ubuntu 10.10 ?
[06:14] <ggg22> Hobbsee: anyone who would know what that means?
[06:14] <maco> Dreamglider: yep
[06:15] <maco> Dreamglider: you'd just have to copy your stuff over & modify /etc/fstab to point to the new partition
[06:15] <archer> move ...
[06:15] <archer> encryption and ect
[06:15] <tecnico> archer: is it on?  sudo grep CONFIG_PAX_MEMORY_UDEREF /boot/config-`unamr -r`
[06:15] <Dreamglider> maco: you have a link to a guide ?
[06:16] <archer> tecnico,  ty. i am looking into it
[06:16] <MACscr_lappy> lol, just unplugged all my usb stuff and now the live cd seems to at least be booting, woo hoo
[06:16] <maco> Dreamglider: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[06:16] <gogeta> MACscr_lappy: stick to osx heh
[06:16] <Dreamglider> maco: thanks man.
[06:17] <Hobbsee> ggg22: i've no idea, sorry :(
[06:17] <maco> ..woman
[06:17] <Dreamglider> maco: thanks woman :)
[06:17] <maco> :P
[06:17] <Dreamglider> Ubuntu has come a long way since 8.04/10
[06:17] <chandrageetha>  how frequent we have to update through update manager, since it needs more space
[06:18] <gogeta> chandrageetha: shouldent use more space lol
[06:18] <tecnico> archer: that's just to see if it is on or enabled... it is is and you want to change it depends if it is compiled in or if it is a module. If it is a module you can just unload the module. If it is compiled, you need to recompile the kernel with that off.  And recompiling the kernel is a completely different game for a new person to linux
[06:18] <gogeta> chandrageetha: not by mutch anyways
[06:18] <ggg22> Hobbsee: it made it to the splash screen O_o yet it won't load thats mean.
[06:18] <Dreamglider>  i only installed 10.10 last week,  used 8.04/10 from birth till eol. so i have to take my hat of for it. 10.10 is nice.
[06:19] <gogeta> chandrageetha: genrely if it leave the old kernel after a update you can remove it
[06:19] <chandrageetha> daily it says --- mb will be needed for these updates, like that
[06:19] <archer> what shall i do to enable vt  in my laptop? it is always unaccepted by vmware
[06:19] <chandrageetha> how to remove old kernel?
[06:19] <gogeta> chandrageetha: mb to dl not to install
[06:19] <gogeta> chandrageetha: once installed to cleans all that out
[06:20] <gogeta> chandrageetha: well 10.10 shouldent have anynold images
[06:20] <chandrageetha> automatically?
[06:20] <gogeta> any
[06:20] <gogeta> chandrageetha: yep
[06:20] <ggg22> Hobbsee: i do recall one other thing when i tried to bypass the mnt before it displayed a message about gnome not having proper drivers installed for power management?
[06:20] <aDik21> /server irc.malaysiachat.org
[06:20] <chandrageetha> thank u gogeta,
[06:20] <gogeta> chandrageetha: being the last kernel update didnt leave the old one behind due to a expolite so it auto removed it
[06:21] <tecnico> archer: most likely CONFIG_VT is enabled already.    sudo grep VT /boot/config-`uname -r`
[06:21] <gogeta> chandrageetha: normly it leave the old behind just in case you have issues
[06:21] <chandrageetha> so we need to install each and every update prompting?
[06:21] <chandrageetha> i have no issues with it. but simply to know
[06:21] <gogeta> chandrageetha: well you can set the check whenever you like weekly daly montly
[06:22] <chandrageetha> what is actually meant by check feature?
[06:22] <archer> tecnico,  yes it is on. the fact is i am not luck at all
[06:22] <gogeta> chandrageetha: when it looks for updates
[06:22] <gogeta> chandrageetha: oof course you dont have to do it right then it just tells you they are there
[06:22] <archer> tecnico,  and about 3d acc, not lucky enough either
[06:23] <chandrageetha> sorry, along with the update window, it shows a button named check. what does it mean
[06:23] <gogeta> chandrageetha: but always a good idea to stay updated
[06:23] <chandrageetha> ok. will follow you , thank you
[06:23] <gogeta> chandrageetha: check is a good idea to hit before updating
[06:23] <gogeta> chandrageetha: make shure everything is still where it should be
[06:23] <gogeta> chandrageetha: or it might try to get something thats not there or moved
[06:23] <gogeta> chandrageetha: and fail
[06:24] <chandrageetha> yeah, the same i am doing, thank you gogeta very much
[06:24] <chandrageetha> bye all
[06:25] <denysonique> hmm ubuntu makes everything simple;)
[06:25] <denysonique> but it could be more simple imho
[06:25] <archer> ...........
[06:26] <pcmh> So could windows. Just depends on who you ask.
[06:26] <ggg22> Hobbsee: i plugged in the external and recovery mode was possible what should i do now?
[06:27] <archer> thank you all. especially to tecnico . I have to quit
[06:27] <denysonique> but with ubuntu there is one problem
[06:27] <denysonique> there is no simple way a novice user could play videos
[06:27] <gogeta> denysonique: push play?
[06:28] <denysonique> gogeta, codecs...
[06:28] <pcmh> Open the "Video player?"
[06:28] <gogeta> denysonique: toten will say it need to find em hit ssearch and wala
[06:28] <denysonique> gogeta, and will install automatically?
[06:28] <pcmh> Ubuntu has always said "You need these" when I tried to play ones with wierd codecs and it downloaded them for me
[06:28] <gogeta> denysonique: if there avable yes
[06:29] <MACscr_lappy> lol, crap, i cant test the fglrx drivers with the live cd because it requires a reboot
[06:29] <MACscr_lappy> thats retarded
[06:29] <gogeta> MACscr_lappy: you would need to make a usb cd that can save to do tht
[06:29] <maco> MACscr_lappy: can we not use "retarded" like that? thanks
[06:29] <gogeta> MACscr_lappy: a persent live cd
[06:29] <ggg22> quick question but after top how do you stop it from terminal?
[06:30] <maco> ggg22: q
[06:30] <amokpaule> Hello, someone here knows how to get an ati 6870 working with ubuntu?
[06:30] <ggg22> maco: thanks
[06:30] <gogeta> amokpaule: push hardware let drivers install
[06:30] <maco> MACscr_lappy: i believe a logout is sufficient, so you could "sudo service gdm restart" and let it log back in (may need user/pass ubuntu/ubuntu)
[06:31] <gogeta> maco: for fglx its kernel
[06:31] <maco> gogeta: oh boo
[06:31] <pcmh> What about fan control on Radeon GPU's. Anyone had any luck with that?
[06:31] <gogeta> maco: he needs a prestent live cd for that
[06:31] <MACscr_lappy> maco: lol, you actually find the comment offensive?
[06:31] <gogeta> MACscr_lappy: there easy to make
[06:31] <amokpaule> I did but after a reboot my screen satys black i have to go to the recovery mode and reset my xorg config. When i try to open the ati control center it says "unsupported device"
[06:32] <gogeta> MACscr_lappy: i think even the usb maker for ubuntu has that option some windows ones to doionno abought mac
[06:32] <MACscr_lappy> im not on a mac
[06:32] <ggg22> okay I was able to get in gui for my user account woot now how can start in figuring out how to take this external drive out of the equation?
[06:32] <MACscr_lappy> and i dont like them
[06:32] <MACscr_lappy> MAC is my initials
[06:32] <gogeta> ggg22: ?????
[06:33] <ggg22> What this problem is it has somethign to do with the external drive it wont even let linux bootup without it plugged in.
[06:33] <maco> MACscr_lappy: your usage of it is offensive, yes. please follow the channel guidelines including the bit about respect
[06:33] <gogeta> amokpaule: then major driver bug there
[06:33] <gogeta> amokpaule: on amd part
[06:34] <gogeta> ggg22: ahh you installed grub to the internel drive
[06:34] <pcmh> ggg22: Did you install linux on the external?
[06:34] <MACscr_lappy> maco: i am not being offensive at all. Its just a term to describe something. Just like saying something is stupid
[06:34] <MACscr_lappy> anyway, i will drop the topic
[06:34] <gogeta> ggg22: that will make grub flip out when you remove it
[06:34] <gogeta> ggg22: you have to remove grub from the internel and put it on the externel
[06:34] <amokpaule> kk guess ill pack it up again and trade it for an nvidia card
[06:34] <elky> gogeta, it is quite unnecessary. Developmental delay isn't uncommon, and we really shouldn't alienate people in here who've been affected by it.
[06:35] <gogeta> ggg22: make shure you restore booting on the inernel as well
[06:35] <gogeta> elky: well amd broke it cant do anything there
[06:35] <gogeta> elky: then go back to os drivers
[06:36] <gogeta> other then
[06:36] <ggg22> no I didn't install linux on external. anything this thing did to grub it did on its own accord so how do i go about removing the external making my system bootup normally?
[06:36] <MACscr_lappy> ive tried a bootable usb, but my crappy mobo doesnt seem to have it show up as a boot option. Though it supports booting from usb
[06:36] <MACscr_lappy> quite odd
[06:36] <elky> gogeta, that doesn't mean you can use language that alienates people affected by developmental delays.
[06:36] <gogeta> ggg22: ah remove ext drive now
[06:37] <gogeta> ggg22: then just doing sudo update-grub should make a grub menu without the externel
[06:37] <MACscr_lappy> elky: the last thing we need on the internet is more hyper sensitivity
[06:37] <gogeta> ggg22: you must have some sort of os on the ext being it made a entry for it
[06:38] <ggg22> gogeta: i don't think it is quite that simple this problem is very confusing. i checked the total filesystem capcity and it now reads 747.1 GB i have a 500 gb laptop hardrive and the external is 200 to 250.
[06:38] <gogeta> ggg22: thats a known bug
[06:38] <elky> MACscr_lappy, actually the internet would benefit immensely from sensitivity training. We might have more than white christian males between 12 and 35 on it if it did.
[06:39] <pcmh> ggg22: is this a fresh ubuntu install?
[06:39] <mneptok> elky: there's no need to stereotype the types of people that are insensitive.
[06:39] <ggg22> gogeta: oh really okay you got my vote.
[06:39] <gogeta> ggg22: did you lvm the drive?
[06:39] <maco> mneptok: it was more a list of people who aren't constantly being spit upon, i think
[06:39] <gogeta> ggg22: 747 seems to think the drive is part of your os
[06:40] <ggg22> gogeta: the only thign i did with this external is i scanned it using photopoc or whatever it is called then it did weird thigns after the scan
[06:40] <mneptok> maco: i think that's more than hyperbolic.
[06:40] <gogeta> ggg22: humm
[06:40] <mneptok> maco: seeing that i am not in that demographic and i hardly feel spit upon.
[06:41] <gogeta> ggg22: just thinking hear
[06:41] <pcmh> ggg22: Anything on the external? If not format it with Gparted maybe?
[06:41] <gogeta> ggg22: well if its ext or any other linuxx fsa it would read it as total space i assume
[06:41] <maco> mneptok: you're in 2 or3 of the 4...
[06:41] <lyrae> Does alt+prtscrn not work for anyone else?
[06:41] <ggg22> gogeta: thhen it said something about running out of space which is impossible the fiel was only 25 mb and it asked to store the file on a location for my laptop i selected in my home folder and thats where it stuck the recovered fiels. after that its acted plain weird.
[06:42] <gogeta> ggg22: yea you hit that fs bug
[06:42] <gogeta> ggg22: some see there drives as 147tb lol
[06:42] <BaTTy0> .
[06:42] <ggg22> gogeta: yeah thats me it started showing random totals like tb 1.3 and 1.2 XD
[06:42] <gogeta> ggg22: seems to only effect 64bit
[06:43] <gogeta> ggg22: well now we knoe its wreaking more havic then bad space readings
[06:43] <realeyes> You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "file:///usr/local"
[06:43] <gogeta> ggg22: well with no os on the drive updating grub with the hdd removed should give you a correct meenu
[06:43] <ggg22> gogeta: i'm just glad we know what it is do i still need to unplug it then just do install grub?
[06:43] <realeyes> how to unzip to a destination as root?
[06:44] <gogeta> ggg22: well it should scan for drives with no ext it should make a entery
[06:44] <realeyes> how to unzip to a destination as root?
[06:44] <gogeta> ggg22: then plugged in or not shouldent have a effect
[06:45] <ggg22> gogeta: okay this is badit doesn't seem to know the external is connected so i cant access the file structure?
[06:46] <gogeta> ggg22: we whant it disconnected for now
[06:46] <gogeta> ggg22: you saying its not working at all now?
[06:46] <ggg22> gogeta: okay it is disconnected. trying stuff out
[06:47] <realeyes> how do I Unzip to /usr/local (you will need to be sudo / root). ?
[06:47] <gogeta> ggg22: when the install make the first grub install it looks for any os on any drives then makes the enterys
[06:47] <gogeta> ggg22: in the case of a ext drive disconnecting it = grub crash
[06:47] <vdubhack> does anyone know an easy way to make an installable ISO of how I exactly have my system setup?
[06:48] <pcmh> anyone know how to control the GPU fan speed of a radeon card?
[06:48] <ggg22> gogeta: okay so just reinstall grub then?
[06:48] <stubuntu> @realeyes yes, root is the only way
[06:48] <realeyes> how do i do that?
[06:48] <gogeta> ggg22: you can genrly still boot it via the grub command line
[06:48] <gogeta> ggg22: fine find stage 1
[06:49] <gogeta> like find
[06:49] <ggg22> gogeta: stage 1 ?
[06:49] <gogeta> ggg22: tells it to look for the boot device
[06:49] <taran> I am unable to upodat from Ubuntu 10.10.Im behind a firewall of the office but have configured proxies properly.Any HELP?
[06:49] <gogeta> ggg22: but we are gonna fix it looking for the ext at all
[06:49] <Diverdude> Is there anywhere i can read about what the mot common root folders are used for. I mean forexample the difference between /lib and /usr/lib. Where to put executables so that i can execute them from anywhere. What is /proc  and /var etc.
[06:50] <realeyes> stubuntu: how do i do that?
[06:50] <vdubhack> Diverdude: to make a program run from anywhere put it in your path
[06:50] <vdubhack> DIverdude: Read about compiling programs its really not that hard make sure to pay attention to setting up paths
[06:51] <gogeta> ggg22: you should also be able to go into d.40 and rmeove the other drives entry and just update-grub
[06:51] <taran> How to update Ubuntu 10.10 when you are  behind a firewall?
[06:51] <Diverdude> vdubhack, yes i know...that was just an example...it was more what different standard folders are used for
[06:51] <stubuntu> realeyes: are you using the command line to copy  files?
[06:51] <Diverdude> vdubhack, like a folder overview
[06:52] <ggg22> gogeta: "find stage 1" output no such file or directory
[06:53] <gogeta> ggg22: well wasent the excat command and you do at the grub screen
[06:53] <vdubhack> diverdude: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemsExplained
[06:53] <gogeta> ggg22: but its better to remove the exra drive entry so it doesent crash at all
[06:53] <ggg22> gogeta: no wait i am in the gui still just cvan't access the external drive
[06:53] <ggg22> gogeta: not in grub right now so go install grub then go from there correct?
[06:54] <gogeta> ggg22: yea if thats the same script the live cd uses
[06:54] <vdubhack> diverdude: if thats not enough google ubuntu folders explained
[06:54] <ggg22> gogeta: oh okay. alrighjt i gotcha i'll reboot with or without the external plugged in when i edit grub?
[06:55] <gogeta> ggg22: well live = no ext defently will rmeake grub without the ext on it
[06:55] <gogeta> live plus
[06:55] <freezway> is there a way to tell my gpu usage. I have an nvidia card
[06:56] <ggg22> goeta: okay when you say live what do oyu mean i don't mess with grub very much because of reasons like these it is very sensitive.
[06:56] <gogeta> ggg22: heh yea it can be
[06:56] <gogeta> !grub
[06:56] <sailendra1> i need help in ubuntu
[06:56] <ggg22> gogeta: you mean a live disk of grub 2?
[06:57] <gogeta> ggg22: the ubuntu live cd cabnn repair grub dunni abought supergrub these days
[06:57] <ggg22> gogeta: does gpart have grub repiar?
[06:57] <sailendra1> is there any application that supports the yahoo voice chat in linux
[06:57] <ggg22> gogeta: *gparted*
[06:58] <MACscr_lappy> whats a better alternative to dd that i can use to image a drive that wont store empty space?
[06:58] <sailendra1> hello there
[06:59] <gogeta> ggg22: the say just boot live cd do sudo update-grub2
[06:59] <gogeta> ggg22: should repair the menu auto
[06:59] <mincomp> where's my bourbon?
[06:59] <sailendra1> how to use the yahoo voice chatting in linux
[06:59] <ggg22> gogeta: okay well glad my problem is solved and to think it was grub and the external harddrive XD
[06:59] <gogeta> ggg22: just do it with no ext
[07:00] <gogeta> ggg22: said it work non live to if you can still boot
[07:00] <vdubhack> MACscr_lappy: clonezilla?
[07:00] <gogeta> ggg22: i assume with ext unplugged
[07:01] <ggg22> gogeta: does it have to be in ubuntu live or can something like knoppix and that other stuff do it my only thing is my cd burner is dead.
[07:01] <MACscr_lappy> vdubhack: was hoping for something i could run from the live cd or just ubuntu in general. Dont want ot have to boot up any media to do it
[07:01] <gogeta> ggg22: says you can do it right there
[07:03] <sailendra1> any software application for linux voice chat using yahoo messenger
[07:03] <vdubhack> MACscr_lappy: dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/mnt/mydir/hda1_piece1_7-15-2006.ddclone bs=4096 conv=noerror   something like that doesnt work for you then? DD can be used to not copy free space
[07:06] <vdubhack> MACscr_lappy: if that doesnt make much sense for dd I would recommend reading the man further on it :) dd will do what you ask
[07:07] <pcmh> Anyone successfully using a RAdeon card with Ubuntu?
[07:07] <freezway> anyone here have tremulous installed?
[07:07] <MACscr_lappy> vdubhack: if wan to do the full disk, can i jsut do sda? or do i really need to use sda1, sda2, etc?
[07:08] <freezway> 'cuz i cant connect
[07:08] <lyrae> Does alt+prtscrn not work for anyone else?
[07:09] <vdubhack> MACscr_lappy: it really depends in my opinion mostly on how many diff types of file systems your making an image of and things like that.. What is you end goal your trying to accomplish? Are you trying to make an image of your current install for an easy reinstall or?
[07:11] <MACscr_lappy> basically that, though to be honest, i really jsut need an image of it because im going to do a fresh install of ubuntu and want to rsync a lot of stuff back
[07:11] <MACscr_lappy> messing around with differen driver options have just fubared my system
[07:12] <vdubhack> MACscr_lappy: I would suggest a different route then to save you hassles in the future, I would do a standard backup of your info and setup your distro differently such as putting /home on its own partition and things like that
[07:13] <vdubhack> that way you only have to reinstall the system your home and what not is still there
[07:13] <cheater99> hi
[07:13] <vdubhack> but will not save settings if you are after that
[07:13] <cheater99> how do you grep for lines that either have the string "bash" or "python" in them?
[07:13] <cheater99> i am really lost how to do it!
[07:14] <cheater99> i have tried grep \(bash\|python\) but it didn't work..
[07:14] <vdubhack> cheater99: cat file | grep bash
[07:14] <MACscr_lappy> vdubhack: what is a standard backup of my info?
[07:14] <cheater99> vdubhack: no..
[07:14] <tasslehoff> I've written an application that uses libusb. It is sad because it can't get permissions to access the device without "sudo", and the only other way I found that will solve it is to write udev rules.. Is there an easier, more user-friendly way?
[07:15] <vdubhack> or cat file | egrep 'bash | python'
[07:15] <cheater99> vdubhack: i want lines that have either bash OR python
[07:15] <cheater99> ok, let me try that!
[07:15] <vdubhack> cheater99: man grep
[07:15] <cheater99> i've read that
[07:16] <vdubhack> MACscr_lappy: copy to external drive or DVD or something like that
[07:17] <vdubhack> MACscr_lappy: then install with / on its own partition /home on its own at the min. There are great manuals out there for advanced installs
[07:17] <vdubhack> MACscr_lappy: I share my /home with 3 different linux OS's
[07:18] <pcmh> What's a good general ubuntu chat irc?
[07:18] <pcmh> channel
[07:18] <vdubhack> pcmh: where you are in #ubuntu
[07:19] <selig5> pcmh: ubuntu-offtopic
[07:19] <rww> #ubuntu is for technical support. #ubuntu-offtopic is the closest we have to a general ubuntu chat channel, though it frequently strays into other topics.
[07:19] <pcmh> Thanks selig5. vdubhack I just don't want to get in the way of people who need help :p
[07:19] <Kribs> morning
[07:19] <Spyzer> may anyone tell me an IRC channel where i can discuss about chess databases and all??
[07:20] <vdubhack> my bad since i see people in here talking about anything all time figured was here
[07:20] <codeblade> (defun hellow()(format t "hello"))
[07:20] <Spyzer> please
[07:20] <MACscr_lappy> vdubhack: so how should i do my initial backup. LOL, i need to get my system backed up correctly before i reinstall
[07:21] <dale> just start over
[07:21] <vdubhack> MACscr_lappy: burn the important stuff to a DVD or use an external drive of some sort or something like that
[07:21] <vdubhack> if you have messed up things dont save your settings just the important info
[07:21] <lyrae> on rythmbox, i added new songs to my music folder but its not showing up in the rythmbox library. How do i reload my tracks?
[07:22] <vdubhack> Sounds like you were trying some things that would be worth starting from scratch with again
[07:22] <lyrae> I could add the folder again but i think it would just make dupiclates
[07:22] <chengjiangtao> ...
[07:24] <Wraith> Is anyone really familiar with wordpress?
[07:24] <Wraith> I currently have it running on ubuntu
[07:26] <chrisg> Wraith: what in paticular do you need to know?
[07:26]  * manytou is just checking out that weird client
[07:27] <Wraith> chrisg keeps crashing
[07:28] <Wraith> and I have no idea why
[07:28] <Wraith> reboot the server...works for about 30seconds...then down again
[07:28] <chrisg> er
[07:28] <chrisg> you mean your webserver crashes?
[07:29] <Wraith> yes
[07:29] <chrisg> what does your main error_log say?
[07:30] <Wraith> not sure where that is located...I am not familair with wordpress...security is my main area..but techs are asleep so boss ahs me on it
[07:30] <Wraith> ...yay me...
[07:30] <chrisg> i think the apache logs on ubuntu by default go into /var/log/apache2/
[07:30] <Wraith> ok Ill pull it up now
[07:30] <chrisg> there ought to be an error.log/error_log somewhere ni there
[07:30] <chrisg> that shows you the webservers last errors
[07:31] <Wraith> umm...it says a lot....lol
[07:31] <chrisg> and erm, when you say crash, you mean it actually crashses and doesn't accept connections on :80 anymore?
[07:32] <Wraith> well ...no
[07:32] <chrisg> ah ha
[07:32] <Wraith> in ssh I can netstat and see the attempts to connect
[07:32] <Wraith> but they do not pull up the page
[07:33] <Wraith> but they are still hittin 80
[07:33] <chrisg> be worth looking thruogh that error log initially then
[07:33] <chrisg> and the error log for the virtualhost your wordpress install is on too, if it's defined
[07:33] <unyu> guys, my ubuntu can't shutdown
[07:34] <unyu> it stuck on black page
[07:35] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | unyu
[07:35] <unyu> !sysrq
[07:36] <phiqtion> !xwinwrap
[07:36] <unyu> well. usually i use ctrl+alt+del
[07:36] <rww> Ubottu is a bot. Messages starting with ! are usually instructions for it to display information to someone.
[07:36] <rww> That too.
[07:37] <unyu> what ???
[07:37] <Jordan_U> unyu: Ctrl+alt+delete is not sent directly to the kernel like sysrq is (ctrl+alt+delete is for windows).
[07:38] <unyu> i see, but can i repair it ???
[07:39] <Jordan_U> unyu: I don't know yet. First we need to diagnose the problem, knowing whether sysrq magic can get it to reboot will give usefull hints at the problem.
[07:40] <unyu> so, what should i do?? only type !sysrq ????
[07:40] <Dwade09> hey guys im running ubuntu in a vbox ontop my ubuntu os, how do i get ubuntu in vbox to boot into the cli and use it only as cli and not load into the gnome gui form?
[07:41] <Jordan_U> unyu: No. "!sysrq" was a command to ubottu, our channel bot, to give you a message about sysrq.
[07:41] <unyu> rrrr, so what should i do to my ubuntu...
[07:42] <Jordan_U> unyu:  In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[07:42] <shebang_wafflesa> Dwade: trying playing around with the init levels (i don't know much about 'em, but someone here should)
[07:42] <unyu> ok. i reading wiki right now
[07:42] <unyu> brb
[07:43] <unyu> ok, let leave that for now...i have another problem
[07:43] <Dwade09> shebang_wafflesa,  thanks and yeah its why i asked i know someone in here can tell me how to boot into the cli of ubuntu rather then its main gui format.
[07:43] <unyu> my system give warning about my dpkg, it says dpkg was interupted...
[07:44] <unyu> how can i fix my dpkg
[07:45] <jaran> Hi, anyone ever tried playing the Digitally Imported premium streams in Banshee or Rhythmbox?
[07:45] <iijijij> hey any help here
[07:46] <iijijij> i got backtrack based on ubuntu but hard to install stuff
[07:46] <Jordan_U> unyu: Open a terminal via Applications > Accessories > Terminal and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a". If that gives any further errors then use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ to give us a link to the full output.
[07:46] <rww> ubottu: backtrack | iijijij
[07:46] <shebang_wafflesa> dwade: look up some guides on runlevels. I've never messed with sysv style init sysytems , but there should be plenty of indo out there to get you booting up the way you want to
[07:47] <shebang_wafflesa> info**
[07:47] <Dwade09> shebang_wafflesa,  i did must over looked it before  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/boot-into-console-command-line-instead-of-x-549292/
[07:47] <iijijij> i want to know if i install ubuntu with backtrack can they share the same swap partition
[07:49] <Cyber_Beast> looking into over all size of a directory (45GB) of a portable HDD, in ubuntu 10.10 shows very different size everytime.. Can anyone explain this ?
[07:49] <taran> hello friends
[07:50] <Cyber_Beast> Figuring out what is size of a directory from portable HDD, is very slow, and everytime it is shown different.. Please help.
[07:50] <taran> hope u all r very happy
[07:50] <unyu> owh mann, thanks <Jordan_U>
[07:50] <Cyber_Beast> taran: Yeah we are, and we hope you're too
[07:51] <taran> yes seeing all the helpfull souls around
[07:51] <teamcoltra> I know this sounds like a dumb question, but whats the "me menu" listed as in the add to panel options? I meant to click "move" and clicked "remove" but now can't seem to find how to add it back
[07:51] <taran> I am behind a firewall and proxy settings are properly made yet I cant update.Any help please
[07:54] <MACscr_lappy> anyone use a linux torrent client that allows you to specify what happens to the torrent after its done downloading? aka, maybe you want it uncompress to a specific folder after its done. I hate doing that stuff manually afterwords. i know some let you uncompress, but they all go to the same folder
[07:54] <teamcoltra> MACscr_lappy, Deluge has that
[07:55] <teamcoltra> (its a plugin, but easy to install, if I remember correctly its part of the default pack)
[07:55] <MACscr_lappy> im using deluge and it seems to only allow you to do it all to the same folder
[07:55] <MACscr_lappy> seems like the labels are worthless for actions as well
[07:55] <zabka> hi, my script is working from command line but not from crontab... it is a perl script, that holds some web pages. it seems that that part fails.
[07:55] <jrib> zabka: pastebin the script and your crontab
[07:55] <teamcoltra> MACscr_lappy, are you using the deluge thats in the Ubuntu repo, or the latest version from Deluge?
[07:57] <unyu> can , we share the same /home folder with 2 or   more different linux
[07:57] <MACscr_lappy> teamcoltra: im pretty sure its the latest from deluge, but to be honest, i havent upgraded in a couple months
[07:57] <zabka> http://pastebin.com/f36QZgnJ
[07:57] <unyu> i mean, use the same /home dir with 2 linux os
[07:57] <[thor]> unyu: yes, as long as they share the same file system type ( ext3, ext4, .. .. )
[07:57] <teamcoltra> Unyu yes if they shere the same fs type
[07:57] <jrib> unyu: sure.  The only issue that may crop up is if some of your programs have a different version on the different distros and they change the syntax of a config file
[07:58] <teamcoltra> ... what [thor] said... :P
[07:58] <unyu> i see, but does it has any effect to my application, such crash or else ???
[07:58] <jrib> unyu: huh?
[07:59] <[thor]> no, as far as the distro is concerned, the /home/ folder is business as usual.
[08:00] <teamcoltra> you might run into an issue if one distro is using a different windows manager, but uses the same filename and location for settings... but I don't know of any two that do
[08:00] <unyu> ok, sorry if my questien make you confuse, i just can't say it properly I guess..he
[08:00] <teamcoltra> unyu, there are many other channels that will support you in your native language if that is not English
[08:01] <advent> n\
[08:01] <unyu> [thor] : what'd you mean by "business as usual"
[08:01] <JackStoner> nm-applet keeps crashing randomly, im on ubuntu 10.04...how do i find out what is wrong???
[08:02] <teamcoltra> unyu, "Business as Usual" means that it will just see the /home folder as if it was not shared or anything was changed
[08:02] <unyu> ok, thanks guys
[08:02] <[thor]> unyu: the distro will assume that the config files/folders in /home/ are sane and useable as long as it can read the file system.
[08:03] <unyu> hmmm...
[08:03] <unyu> ok
[08:04] <wonder32> Hi,I sell computer with ubuntu, but I don't found the oem installation mode in Ubuntu Netbook 10.04-10. Can you help me? How can I install Ubuntu Netbook in OEM mode? thanks
[08:05] <Aussieguy> Is there any way to force a program to use eth0 instead of my vpn connection?
[08:06] <Aussieguy> for example lynx browser hitting my ip update script somewhere on the internet
[08:06] <vipinb> Hi all can Anyone tell me what this message al about . I'm waiting for a solution from past 1 year "ome to #ubuntu! Please read the channel topic. This channel is logged. Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService
[08:06] <vipinb> * #ubuntu :http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <vipinb> * lorenzosu (~lo@host66-155-static.115-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #ubuntu
[08:06] <vipinb> * Aussieguy (~robbie@220-253-182-22.NSW.netspace.net.au) has joined #ubuntu
[08:06] <FloodBot3> vipinb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[08:06] <MindVirus1> Anyone know libjack-dev for JACK2?
[08:07] <Gorroth> hi
[08:07] <Dwade09> guys how do i get it where my vbox ubuntu will not load x perminantly ?
[08:08] <Gorroth> is it possible to keep something like the HP Minis or Dell Minis running while the lid is closed, but have the screen stay off?
[08:08] <Gorroth> this way i can sometimes use them as wireless APs or something
[08:08] <Gorroth> while keeping them in my backpack
[08:09] <jrib> Gorroth: yes, but I'd be worried about it overheating
[08:09] <Gorroth> well, i don't think it'd overheat just acting as an AP
[08:09] <Gorroth> plus, it's cold enough outside
[08:09] <Gorroth> anyway, how do i keep it running with lid closed but having the display off?
[08:09] <Aussieguy> the heat generated by the boxes would be harmful
[08:10] <Gorroth> okay, ignoring that
[08:10] <Aussieguy> you need some kind of ventilation
[08:10] <Gorroth> i'm not worried about that detail atm
[08:10] <hellphyre> lol
[08:10] <teamcoltra> Aussieguy, its in your power settings, just change the option for "When lid is shut"
[08:11] <teamcoltra> Aussieguy, click the battery -> Preferences -> When Laptop lid is closed -> Turn Screen Off
[08:11] <Gorroth> teamcoltra: thanks a lot
[08:11] <unyu> guys, how do i use pastebin.ubuntu.com
[08:11] <teamcoltra> errrr yeah sorry Gorroth  :P
[08:11] <[thor]> Gorroth: let us know if you melt any lappys :D
[08:11] <Gorroth> teamcoltra: i will do that when i pick one up.  i was just curious if i could do it before getting one of those systems
[08:12] <Aussieguy> I think we got confused, throught you meant close the lid on the fan vent
[08:12] <MACscr_lappy> shouldnt installing from a high speed thumb drive be faster than cd?
[08:12] <Gorroth> oh, no.  i just meant close the laptop lid like it's folded up like a notebook
[08:13] <teamcoltra> Gorroth, I use this setting, and I keep my laptop in my backpack (running with its lid closed) as I walk to and from school (I am a teacher) ... I never have an issue. I also leave my laptop on all the time. Most laptops vent from the bottom, so it doesn't really matter much, but it *IS* something to at least watch for
[08:13] <Gorroth> teamcoltra: yeah.  i think a mini should be cool enough, but i'll always stick the laptop in my bag so that the vent can get as much room as possible
[08:14] <Gorroth> i'll see if i can downclock it even
[08:14] <Gorroth> perhaps from inside linux
[08:14] <MindVirus1> Anyone know libjack-dev for JACK2?
[08:14] <teamcoltra> Gorroth, but you should be able to get an answer to a question when you ask, and not have jump through the third degree on why you shouldn't do something, you should be told the risks once, and then given an answer ;) -- I don't think much of that is nessesary. Again just keep an eye on it, if you are using it as some type of server, just watch its sensors through shell to make sure that its not over heating
[08:14] <jrib> MindVirus1: I'm not even sure that's a question
[08:15] <vipinb> Hi Can anyone tell me what is this log all about http://pastebin.com/bFHuYBGj. I'm waiting from paste 1.5 Years for an answer for this....
[08:15] <MindVirus1> jrib: It is well-defined and has a definite answer.
[08:15] <jrib> MindVirus1: "yes"
[08:15] <MindVirus1> jrib: What is it?
[08:15] <jrib> MindVirus1: I don't know, I just answered your well-defined question
[08:15] <teamcoltra> Gorroth, you could even whip out a small script to get the computer to beep at you when its temperature is over 95C (most computers will auto-shutdown at 100C)
[08:16] <wonder32> You know if is possible to install Ubuntu Netbook 10.04 or 10.10 in oem mode?
[08:16] <MindVirus1> jrib: I was just assuming that we were using the same English. My apologies.
[08:16] <Dwade09> guys nothing i am doing to boot my vbox ubuntu into cli outside x is working. i hit ctrl+alt+f1 it boots my main os into command line not my vbox
[08:16] <Gorroth> teamcoltra: yeah, i'm with your philosophy on questions/answers.  i tried my best to avoid a long debate about something unrelated to my question, but i do like that people mention potential risks
[08:16] <jrib> MindVirus1: you're the one seeking answers
[08:16] <MindVirus1> jrib: Do you know libjack-dev for JACKD 2?
[08:16] <MindVirus1> I don't know how else to ask it.
[08:16] <jrib> MindVirus1: I have no clue what you mean
[08:16] <MindVirus1> jrib: So, there's jackd 1 and jackd 2.
[08:17] <MindVirus1> libjack-dev is for jackd 1 (I think).
[08:17] <hellphyre> and dev apparently
[08:17] <Gorroth> teamcoltra: hmm, yeah, i might write a python script that can monitor temperature and alert me somehow.  shouldn't be too difficult
[08:17] <moho_> recorde cable tv shows
[08:17] <jrib> MindVirus1: well is jack 2 in the repositories ?
[08:17] <MindVirus1> jrib: I have no idea.
[08:17] <MindVirus1> But there is a jackd2.
[08:17] <jrib> MindVirus1: that would be what I would check first
[08:17] <Gorroth> teamcoltra: out of curiosity, what do you teach
[08:17] <MindVirus1> So I assume that's the same thing.
[08:17] <jrib> MindVirus1: ok, what is the package for jackd 2?
[08:18] <teamcoltra> Gorroth, query me about that
[08:18] <teamcoltra> (this channel is for support, yada yada)
[08:18] <Gorroth> oh, sorry
[08:18] <MindVirus1> jrib: I don't know. I just know there's a jackd2.
[08:18] <tripelb> I've queued up this page http://worldmassageconference.com/room/replay and I want to record it.  How do I do this? (Ubuntu 10.04)
[08:18] <jrib> MindVirus1: how do you know that jackd 2 is in the repositories?
[08:18] <MindVirus1> However, libjack-dev is removed when I try to install it.
[08:18] <roadrash1965> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to change the system sounds in Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[08:18] <tripelb> Just the audio
[08:18] <tripelb> would be fine,
[08:18] <MindVirus1> jrib: I don't know how you got that from what I said.
[08:18] <fuse512> hey guys! i have a weird problem installing ubuntu server 10.04, one of my sata disks isn't detecting in the installer menu but I can see it if i run fdisk -l in the console?
[08:19] <tripelb> I've queued up this page http://worldmassageconference.com/room/replay and I want to record it.  How do I do this? (Ubuntu 10.04)  Just the audio would be fine.
[08:19] <fasp> What does 2>&1 mean? These characters are hard to google^
[08:19] <jrib> MindVirus1: "jrib: well is jack 2 in the repositories" "you: I have no idea.  But there is a jackd2."
[08:19] <Dwade09> hello guys how can i boot my ubuntu vbox into cli without the x session?
[08:19] <MindVirus1> jrib: Right. I don't know what relation jackd2 has with JACK 2.
[08:20] <jrib> MindVirus1: what do you install that removes libjack-dev...?
[08:20] <MindVirus1> jrib: jackd2.
[08:20] <chevie> Does anybody know, who is to contact when an archive on archive.ubuntu.com is corrupt?
[08:20] <moho_> fasp, it means 2women and 1 man
[08:21] <fasp> one cup?
[08:21] <jrib> MindVirus1: what does « apt-cache depends jackd2 » return?
[08:21] <MindVirus1> jrib: Are you not on Ubuntu?
[08:22] <jrib> MindVirus1: erm, why?
[08:22] <MindVirus1> jrib: Just a question.
[08:22] <jrib> MindVirus1: I am on ubuntu
[08:22] <Diverdude> what is PPA ?
[08:23] <[thor]> vipinb: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:23] <canadacow> exit
[08:23] <Gorroth> just another question about netbooks and ubuntu.  does anyone know of any current models where the wireless card can be put into Master mode (i.e. able to act as a wireless access point)?
[08:23] <Gorroth> i'm having trouble figuring out if the HP Minis or Dell Mini 10s can
[08:23] <jrib> MindVirus1: oops, I meant "showsrc" not "depends"
[08:24] <vipinb> I'm running 10.04 and 10.10 in both i have this problem
[08:24] <jrib> !ppa | Diverdude
[08:24] <teamcoltra> Gorroth, I don't think that is a Ubuntu question
[08:24] <teamcoltra> Gorroth, you will probably have to just go to the manufactures
[08:24] <Gorroth> oh, i thought it was related to linux.  i suppose i can ask in #linux
[08:25] <Gorroth> i'll do it later though; i actually must sleep :)
[08:25] <vipinb> thor: I have raised this problem in several forum. I didnot got any answer for this.Even I can able to see same type of question in search. Without any solution
[08:25] <loktibrada> ugh
[08:26] <roadrash1965> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to change the system sounds in Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[08:26] <teamcoltra> roadrash1965, yeah they are in the sound preferences
[08:26] <[thor]> vipinb: it seems to be happening even back to jaunty
[08:26] <[thor]> vipinb: pulseaudio blames alsa, and the alsa team says shove it.
[08:27] <teamcoltra> roadrash1965, click the speaker icon, click Sound Preferences -> Sound Effects
[08:27] <ozram> how can i display a user-list in x-chat?
[08:27] <[thor]> ozram: click the View menu item and checkmark "Userlist"
[08:27] <[thor]> ?
[08:27] <teamcoltra> ozram, #xchat
[08:28] <vipinb> Thor: I'm between these two. I want to fix this issue... I do not  who will fix this issue...
[08:28] <roadrash1965> teamcoltra: the sound prefs in 10.04 doesn't have an option to use custom sounds. do you know if there is a workaround
[08:28] <aeMaeth> roadrash1965, see my pm
[08:29] <wonder32> Sorry, can you help me?
[08:29] <vipinb> thor: alsa-sink.c File is a pulseaudio file not a alsa source file.
[08:29] <roadrash1965> teamcoltra: thanx. I'll give it a try
[08:29] <chevie> Does anybody know, who is to contact when an archive on archive.ubuntu.com is corrupt?
[08:30] <[thor]> vipinb: but the error is with that sb?????? file, which is an alsa driver
[08:31] <vipinb> Thor: Is there any way to correct it. So that I can rollback the problem in that file and compile again the alsa-driver.
[08:31] <[thor]> no idea
[08:31] <[thor]> the linux audio system is a mess
[08:32] <rinku_kokiri> fresh install ubuntu 10.10 on an asus m70vmx1 WILL NOT BOOT
[08:32] <rinku_kokiri> please advise
[08:32] <rinku_kokiri> i get blinking cursor of doom
[08:33] <rinku_kokiri> grub will not install
[08:33] <rinku_kokiri> help
[08:33] <vipinb> Thor: Can you tell me which file is creating this issue in alsa driver. So that I can check it.
[08:34] <Dwade09> can anyone tell me how i can get rid of the x session in ubuntu and make it strictly cli ?
[08:34] <[thor]> sorry, that is beyond my capability.
[08:35] <rinku_kokiri> can anyone help me
[08:35] <jrib> Dwade09: edit /etc/default/grub and add "text" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, then run update-grub
[08:35] <vipinb> Cany anyone else help me please
[08:35] <Dwade09> thank you jrib
[08:35] <jrib> !helpme | vipinb
[08:36] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: above is for you too
[08:36] <lotus-blade> is there any way to deactivate the automount feature for cd drive?
[08:36] <jrib> lotus-blade: I don't know how, but you'd probably have to mess with udev configuration (that should get you started)
[08:37] <vipinb> This is my question ...  Hi Can anyone tell me what is this log all about http://pastebin.com/bFHuYBGj. I'm waiting from paste 1.5 Years for an answer for this....
[08:37] <chevie> Dwade09: I'd suggest 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[08:37] <lotus-blade> I have looked in /etc/fstab and saw only the entries for the hard drive
[08:37] <ninwa> Does anybody happen to know a good network clipboard sharing tool that is cross-platform? :o) Already using synergy between my windows and linux machines, this would be the final finishing touch.
[08:37] <jrib> chevie: gdm starts via an upstart init script
[08:38] <rinku_kokiri> jrib> error: cannot find device for / (is /dev mounted?)
[08:38] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: context?
[08:38] <rinku_kokiri> sudo update-grub
[08:39] <chevie> jrib: Oops, probably mixed it up with another distribution ...
[08:39] <rinku_kokiri> /usr/sbin/grub-probe:  [above error]
[08:39] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: why are you running "update-grub"?
[08:39] <rinku_kokiri> because you told me to
[08:39] <Dwade09> jrib i did sudo update-grub and i get /etc/default/grub: 11: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT: not found even though i added it and saved it.
[08:40] <jrib> Dwade09: pastebin your file
[08:40] <Dwade09> jrib, this is in vbox btw and i used nano.
[08:41] <lotus-blade> is there any way to deactivate the automount feature for cd drive?
[08:41] <lotus-blade> I have looked in /etc/fstab and saw only the entries for the hard drive
[08:41] <wonder32> Sorry, I have found a very simple solution
[08:41] <rinku_kokiri> jrib> i figured that since i had a boot issue, and u mentioned grub, then said above is for me too, that that's what u were talkign about
[08:41] <petan> Dwade09: what grub u have, new command is grub-mkconfig
[08:41] <rinku_kokiri> but i guess not
[08:41] <rinku_kokiri> so
[08:41] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: that was /below
[08:42] <rinku_kokiri> fresh install ubuntu 10.10 WILL NOT BOOT,
[08:42] <rinku_kokiri> blinking cursor of death
[08:42] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: sorry, my fault.  I meant the !helpme
[08:42] <yyz> Hmm
[08:42] <Dwade09> jrib http://pastebin.com/SxAgkYfX
[08:42] <yyz> Hello all
[08:42] <wonder32> bye
[08:42] <rinku_kokiri> grub-install won't work
[08:42] <rinku_kokiri> please advise
[08:42] <jrib> !enter | rinku_kokiri
[08:42] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: you followed the !grub2 wiki page?
[08:43] <rinku_kokiri> !grub2
[08:43] <jrib> Dwade09: I don't know why you are getting the error, but theer's no "text" there
[08:43] <GrimmVarg> hey, guys. Have any of you ever sett upp remote host (irssi) through ssh with screen to send notifications to the laptop in use, in the gnoe notification system?
[08:43] <Dwade09> how do i fix it jrib ?
[08:44] <lotus-blade> I do not want my cd drive to automount.  I want to be able to symlink /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom.  is this possible?
[08:44] <jrib> Dwade09: well start by adding "text"
[08:44] <rinku_kokiri> jrib> yes, it seems i have already done EVERYTHING on that page up until #4
[08:44] <rinku_kokiri> can't do much past 4 cause you need to be able to boot to go farther
[08:44] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: you should explain what goes wrong
[08:45] <jrib> !away > pa
[08:45] <jrib> !away > pavi_out
[08:45] <rinku_kokiri> jrib> i thought i did...
[08:45] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: aren't you asked to boot from a cd?
[08:45] <rinku_kokiri> the whole blinking cursor at boot after a fresh install
[08:45] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: I mean what goes wrong while following the !grub2 directions
[08:45] <rinku_kokiri> 4. Once the system has installed GRUB 2, the user can reboot and will be greeted by an updated GRUB legacy menu. As shown, the user will see a "Chainload" option which will test the GRUB 2 installation. Selecting the Chainload option will transfer control to GRUB 2 and display a GRUB 2 menu.
[08:45] <rinku_kokiri> ^^ don't get that far
[08:46] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: what happens with 1,2,3?
[08:46] <petan> !away > petan
[08:46] <aaaoooaaa> hi guys im not sure if this is the place to ask about database stuff so if it isnt would you mind pointing me in the right direction? My question : I have a CSV file that I need to edit and cannot edit it via openofficeCalc/msexcel because it changes the structure of the file. The only way I can think of doing it is to create an ODBC connection to the csv file and then hopefully edit it via open office Base. Is this the fastest way to get it done? If so
[08:46] <rinku_kokiri> sudo aptitude command not found
[08:46] <rinku_kokiri> lol
[08:46] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: don't you think that's relevant?
[08:47] <rinku_kokiri> grub-pc already installed
[08:47] <TorrBY> hi
[08:47] <rasoolsystem> hi
[08:47] <rinku_kokiri> jrib> no... aptitude has nothing to do with not being able to boot
[08:47] <petan> anybody need help
[08:47] <rinku_kokiri> yes
[08:47] <rasoolsystem> what?
[08:48] <Dwade09> petan,  it says same thing it did on what jrib told me and add text? add what text ?
[08:48] <TorrBY> I have a problem with bash script which works in CentOS but doesn't in kubuntu 10.10
[08:48] <jrib> Dwade09: the word "text"...
[08:48] <aaaoooaaa> petan: me
[08:48] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, not really
[08:48] <petan> aaaoooaaa: just ask
[08:48] <jrib> Dwade09: didn't you want no xsession?
[08:48] <rinku_kokiri> i have a problem with a fresh install of ubuntu not booting
[08:48] <Dwade09> oh ok i will try that next.
[08:48] <rinku_kokiri> like a FRESH install
[08:48] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, csv editors shouldn't modify the structure of the file
[08:48] <aaaoooaaa> petan: its kinda long and i dont wanna flood, can you scroll up
[08:49] <petan> TorrBY: what is say
[08:49] <rinku_kokiri> like i install, reboot... blinking cursor of doom
[08:49] <aeMaeth> TorrBY, dash is default in ubuntu, i would try forcing bash to use it, to make sure you're not running a bash script through dash
[08:49] <jrib> aaaoooaaa: what structure is getting modified exactly?
[08:49] <petan> aaaoooaaa: pm me
[08:49] <crashanddie_> petan, no PM'ing
[08:49] <jrib> !pm | petan, aaaoooaaa
[08:49] <Dwade09> jrib yes and its working.
[08:49] <petan> aaaoooaaa: /query petan and then past
[08:49] <aaaoooaaa> wow everyone wants to help
[08:49] <petan> crashanddie_: why?
[08:49] <crashanddie_> petan, oh, for the initial question?
[08:49] <crashanddie_> just make sure the conversation comes back here
[08:49] <rinku_kokiri> !pm | rinku_kokiri
[08:49] <aaaoooaaa> jrib : it adds commas
[08:50] <TorrBY> aeMaeth, I have #!/bin/bash at the beginning of script
[08:50] <jrib> aaaoooaaa: ah, well if it's some sort of small change, you could just use a text editor, no?
[08:50] <petan> crashanddie_: sure
[08:50] <Dwade09> jrib, i added text and then rebooted after i updated grub and it still booted into the x session.
[08:50] <aeMaeth> well, if bash <script> doesn't work,idk waht to say
[08:50] <rinku_kokiri> I hope grub [legacy] still works with ubuntu 10.10
[08:51] <jrib> Dwade09: pastebin your file
[08:51] <aaaoooaaa> jrib: not quite hundreds of repetitive "small" changes...this thing will go into controlling some pretty "heavy" stuff
[08:51] <jrib> Dwade09: and /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:51] <Dwade09> ok jrib give me a few minutes?
[08:51] <aaaoooaaa> jrib : so i would like to have the data displayed in a tabulated form
[08:51] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, what is that supposed to mean? Please provide examples, I'm sure we can provide you with help if you start explaining precisely what you are attempting to do.
[08:52] <aaaoooaaa> brb
[08:52] <jrib> aaaoooaaa: I don't know, there are certainly libraries to edit csv files that you could try.  But then you have to hope they won't add commas too.  What commas is open office adding?
[08:52] <rinku_kokiri> can any one help me fix my boot issue on a clean install of ubuntu?
[08:52] <jrib> crashanddie_: he wants to edit a csv file but when he does so with ooo, it adds commas and he doesn't want that
[08:52] <ozram> wow
[08:52] <ozram> what a pain
[08:53] <ozram> cant even install a simple flash plugin
[08:53] <ozram> i installed rpm
[08:53] <ozram> i installed it with alien
[08:53] <rinku_kokiri> ozram> i swear ubuntu is getting like windows
[08:53] <jrib> ozram: rpm is not for ubuntu.
[08:53] <crashanddie_> jrib, how can an CSV file not contain commas? "Comma separated values"
[08:53] <rinku_kokiri> not working with anything
[08:53] <Dwade09> jrib http://pastebin.com/WZZMgjnT and /boot/grub/grub.conf is empty
[08:53] <ozram> got that i368 running with both now
[08:53] <ozram> neither work
[08:53] <jrib> crashanddie_: "adds commas"
[08:53] <ozram> WTF AM I SUPPOSED to do -.-
[08:53] <rinku_kokiri> ^^ x2
[08:53] <jrib> ozram: undo what you did first of all :)
[08:53] <Dwade09> oh nvm hold on. mistype
[08:53] <aeMaeth> !ohmy | ozram
[08:54] <ozram> alright
[08:54] <ozram> so i remove alien and ..
[08:54] <ozram> rpm?
[08:54] <ozram> how?
[08:54] <FloodBot3> ozram: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:54] <rinku_kokiri> ANYONE HELP?   ubuntu WILL NOT boot after install
[08:54] <jrib> ozram: presumably alien created some sorted of deb package you installed.  Remove that
[08:55] <Dwade09> jrib http://pastebin.com/WZZMgjnT and http://pastebin.com/bL8tUjdb
[08:55] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: follow the !grub2 wiki page.  And tell us exactly what step fails and how.
[08:55] <crashanddie_> TorrBY, what shell interpreters are installed on the target systems?
[08:55] <rinku_kokiri> jrib> i did
[08:55] <rinku_kokiri>  After selecting "OK" the next option allows the user to test GRUB 2 by adding an entry to their normal GRUB menu. Select "Yes" to place a Chainload option on the GRUB menu. When GRUB boots the next time, the user can select a normal GRUB entry or transfer control to GRUB 2 via the Chainload entry.
[08:55] <rinku_kokiri> ^^ can't do
[08:55] <aaaoooaaa> alright Ill upload the files onto pastebin
[08:55] <ozram> yes i saw some locked folder, with parts of the erroneous "deb conversion"... in the download directory. is deleting that.. enough?
[08:55] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: "can't do" because...
[08:55] <rinku_kokiri> because it fails
[08:55] <rinku_kokiri> ...
[08:55] <crashanddie_> TorrBY, it could be that bash isn't installed, and then the default shell can crash on bash-specific keywords
[08:56] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: fails how exactly?
[08:56] <rinku_kokiri> jrib> error: cannot find device for / (is /dev mounted?)
[08:56] <crashanddie_> rinku_kokiri, you messed up your partitioning
[08:56] <TorrBY> crashanddie_, bash 4.1.5(1)-release
[08:56] <rinku_kokiri> .it did it itself
[08:56] <rinku_kokiri> jrib> ^^
[08:56] <rinku_kokiri> so no
[08:56] <jrib> Dwade09: I still don't see "text" there.  Do you know what you have to do?
[08:56] <crashanddie_> rinku_kokiri, reinstall, and select "use one device for all" (new users) or whatever the exact name is
[08:56] <aeMaeth> i think it's installed, just the shell might be ignoring bash and running with dash anyhow...
[08:56] <rinku_kokiri> crashanddie_> that's what i selected in the first place
[08:57] <crashanddie_> TorrBY, what error do you get?
[08:57] <Dwade09> jrib i added "text" after the line you told me to add in the /etc/default/grub
[08:57] <jrib> Dwade09: oh I see what you did.  No use the existing line that says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[08:58] <TorrBY> crashanddie_, this http://p.defau.lt/?3f_C3uw7daTY2LbKFPccig alsways return "unknown"
[08:59] <Dwade09> then i get the error as before
[08:59] <aeMaeth> within the quotes
[08:59] <jrib> Dwade09: you still haven't pastebinned the file that gives you the error
[09:00] <rinku_kokiri> jrib>    hei jack   you could have told me how to mount /dev
[09:00] <rinku_kokiri> but nooooooooo
[09:00] <aaaoooaaa> petan: original : http://pastebin.com/XHm4JqRp , opened + "saved" in office calc: http://pastebin.com/1LY4L7E4
[09:00] <rinku_kokiri> just wanted to throw !'s at me
[09:00] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: good luck with your issue
[09:01] <ozram> can someone maybe take a while and help me out? in query?
[09:01] <jrib> ozram: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[09:01] <petan> aaaoooaaa: sorry I didn't watch your issue I don't know what you need
[09:01] <Dwade09> jrib its just saying that /etc/default/grub 11: grub cli you told me to add not found heres the pastebin http://pastebin.com/P5iWGku7
[09:01] <crashanddie_> TorrBY, works fine here
[09:01] <jrib> Dwade09: oh I see what you did.  No use the existing line that says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[09:01] <s7> hi, am running an all ubuntu internet cafe. i need a recommendation for time management software
[09:01] <ozram> so ... about the failed deb-conversion leftovers from alien. is it enough if i delete those files which ended up in a "locked" folder... within my download folder?
[09:02] <jrib> Dwade09: and delete the line you added...
[09:02] <crashanddie_> TorrBY, it's not a shell issue, it's a problem in your algorithm
[09:02] <crashanddie_> ls
[09:02] <rinku_kokiri> jrib for future knowledge (so you actually know how to answer someone's question next time) i used this to fix... no thanx to you  http://www.webtechquery.com/index.php/2010/04/install-grub2-from-live-cd/
[09:03] <ozram> i mean if alien said it failed. did it maybe partially install my flash plugin and i have to go and remove/clean that up now with sort of "apt remove"... or not?
[09:03] <rinku_kokiri> jrib> maybe you can add that to your quick list of !'s or help pages
[09:03] <Dwade09> i added GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" then you said put text on the other one so i did, now its saying that. it worked the other way but booted into gui.
[09:03] <TorrBY> ok, i'v found. problem is in ^M at the end of each line of FLISH
[09:03] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: if the wiki directions are lacking, it would be great if you could update them with your experience
[09:03] <TorrBY> FLIST
[09:03] <chevie> Can someone get 'wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2' and then check the file with 'bzip2 -t Packages.bz2', please?  When I do this, bzip2 complains about a CRC error (and so does my 'apt-get update') :-(. TNX.
[09:03] <jrib> rinku_kokiri: I'm not sure why you seem to be mad at me for sending you information
[09:03] <rinku_kokiri> yep cause you're too busy "helppin people" huh
[09:03] <crashanddie_> TorrBY, also, you shouldn't use uppercase variable names
[09:04] <rinku_kokiri> maybe if you wouldn't have trigger happied me
[09:04] <ozram> how can i display a user bar in x-chat? :F
[09:04] <rinku_kokiri> peace
[09:04] <crashanddie_> TorrBY, you might have collisions with environment variables -- always use lowercase (or begin with lowercase and use uppercase to separate words, etc)
[09:04] <aaaoooaaa> hi guys I have a CSV file(ORIGINAL : http://pastebin.com/XHm4JqRp ) that I need to edit and cannot edit it via openofficeCalc/msexcel because it changes the structure of the file(File Open + saved in calc with no "changes" : http://pastebin.com/JxVsLjmp ). The only way I can think of doing it is to create an ODBC connection to the csv file and then hopefully edit it via open office Base. Is this the fastest way to get it done? If so how should i go abou
[09:05] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, actually, the second file is valid, the first isn't.
[09:06] <Dwade09> jrib, where it says quiet splash do i remove that and put text?
[09:06] <ozram> okay again... despite the ops recommendation. anyone experienced care to help for 10-15 mins. @ query?
[09:06] <spandi> Does Empathy support video chat for GTALK ?
[09:06] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, would also recommend using an IRC client that is aware of the message limit, your last line was cut ("If so how should I go abo")
[09:06] <bazhang> ozram, ask here
[09:06] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: yeah i sorta know that but i have to work with the former method
[09:06] <ozram> its not 1 question
[09:06] <aaaoooaaa> i mean format
[09:06] <jrib> Dwade09: add text so it will have three words
[09:06] <bazhang> ozram, then ask them one by one.
[09:06] <ozram> my main goal is to get thise cheap chinese midi keyboard running on ubuntu
[09:06] <ozram> which is... like.. quite a few steps left. i suppose
[09:07] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, then just write a quick shell script that "fixes" it after your changes
[09:08] <Kyrius> hi
[09:08] <Kyrius> i have a question
[09:08] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_:  Yeah except I dont know the nature of the commaing and IM not prepared to take risks
[09:08] <jrib> aaaoooaaa: how was the existing file created?
[09:08] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, btw, the only changes that could ever possibly impact it are the first 6 lines
[09:08] <petan> Kyrius: go ahead
[09:09] <Kyrius> is there a way to make rarfilesource work o linux? or is it already out there and i can't find it
[09:09] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, where you have a bunch of ,,,,, at the end
[09:09] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: whatdya mean?
[09:09] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, other than that, the files are pretty much exactly the same AFAICT
[09:09] <petan> Kyrius: what rarfilesource
[09:09] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: youre wrong. I passed it into a file comparator and its all over the place
[09:09] <aeMaeth> Kyrius, i thought vlc could do that five years ago
[09:09] <Kyrius> it is a codec that enables you playing video straight from rar
[09:10] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: tried chaning it by replace but that only made things worse
[09:10] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, don't tell people who are trying to help you "you're wrong"
[09:10] <aeMaeth> petan, http://www.v12pwr.com/RARFileSource/
[09:10] <petan> Kyrius: try vlc - apt-get install vlc
[09:10] <Kyrius> i have vlc
[09:10] <Kyrius> doesn't work
[09:10] <Kyrius> how do i enab le it
[09:10] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: im sorry didnt mean for you to take it personally. I just meant to say that i checked and it isnt just the first few lines
[09:10] <Dwade09> jrib i added text to all three of the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and still boots into xsession
[09:10] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, obviously, your parser can understand empty fields (15th line, "TAG,,Local" -- so having ,, or ,"", doesn't make a difference)
[09:11] <jrib> Dwade09: there aren't three lines with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT.  There's only one.  There's another line that kind of looks like it, but it's not.  And then there's the line that you added, but you should remove.
[09:11] <petan> Kyrius: sorry no idea, mybe others
[09:11] <Kyrius> it's ok, tnx anyway
[09:12] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, so the fact that the last two fields are being nulled (15th line, ","","" becomes 8th line ",,) has little to no bearing
[09:12] <aaaoooaaa> jrib: a proprietary program called RSLogix5000
[09:12] <veteran> hello..how can i download source code of programs?
[09:12] <jrib> !source > veteran
[09:12] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, other than that, it's just empty lines which are removed
[09:12] <gogeta> Kyrius: extract your rar
[09:12] <Kyrius> haha
[09:13] <jrib> aaaoooaaa: why not save it in OOo without making changes and use some sort of diff program to see what changes.  Then you can check if it's just the initial part of the file that's getting changed
[09:13] <Dwade09> jrib done and done, but it boots back up into xsession
[09:13] <jrib> Dwade09: right, so I asked you to pastebin the file
[09:13] <zamba> i'm looking for a piece of software that can timeshift a potentially infinite video stream and let's the user extract portions of the video stream on demand.. does anyone know of something like that?
[09:13] <crashanddie_> jrib, that's what he did
[09:13] <Kyrius> why would i want to extract it if i can play it straight out of rar
[09:13] <jrib> crashanddie_: ah, I missed that
[09:13] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: it isnt about the nulls
[09:13] <gogeta> Kyrius: so lazy
[09:14] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, have you tried using the file?
[09:15] <gogeta> Kyrius: yout not saving any space having movies rard there aruldy compressed
[09:15] <Dwade09> jrib http://pastebin.com/GhGQLhFY
[09:15] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: yes, it wont accept it, i RTM and it explicitly stated that I shouldnt try to edit the file using excel
[09:15] <Kyrius> that's true
[09:16] <jrib> Dwade09: ok, now what happens when you run « sudo update-grub »?
[09:16] <airtonix> !find csv
[09:16] <Dwade09> it updates, then whne i reboot it, it boots into the xsession. jrib.
[09:16] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, basically, any CSV editor is probably going to re-write your file as OO has done. You're probably better off using vim to edit the file
[09:16] <jrib> Dwade09: ok, now pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:16] <Kyrius> well, i'll live
[09:16] <Dwade09> jrib, how do i get the file besides using nano ?
[09:16] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: is msaccess/openoffice base a CSV editor?
[09:17] <jrib> Dwade09: gedit?
[09:17] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, yeah, they all work the same
[09:17] <gogeta> Kyrius: lol just saw it as someone with to mutch time making that plugin
[09:17] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, they load the file into memory, and when you ask to save, it jumps dumps it through a transformer: memory > CSV file.
[09:17] <jrib> aaaoooaaa: you should ask the makers of the software how you /can/ edit the csv file
[09:17] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, they don't actually go and edit a single part of the file, they just overwrite the whole thing most of the time.
[09:18] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: can I use sql?
[09:18] <aeMaeth> gogeta, i see how it could be helpful to leave it in rar's if that's how you get them and you have a lot..save space..but you could load the video into /tmp and watch it from there :P
[09:18] <aaaoooaaa> jrib: I have but they take forever to get back to me
[09:18] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, you can try, but I'm betting you a buck or two it will be the exact same result
[09:18] <feindbild> hi ^^ what resolver does ubuntu use? I have the correct nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf, nslookup will find the FQND in the LAN but whatever braindamaged resolver ubuntu uses only resolves the hostnames, not the FQNDs ...
[09:18] <airtonix> !info csvtool | aaaoooaaa
[09:18] <amagee> if i have two ubuntu machines on the same network, what's the easiest way for one to mount a directory from the other?
[09:18] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, just vim/perl it.
[09:18] <gogeta> aeMaeth: rar is not saving any spacearuldy compressed
[09:19] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, what kidn of changes do you need to do?
[09:19] <erry> hi
[09:19] <slooksterpsv> any ldap server gurus here?
[09:19] <aeMaeth> gogeta, but rar files + the extracted file = twice the size
[09:19] <erry> can i cancel an update after is installed some files
[09:19] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: I need to change the name of all the input/output tags
[09:19] <Dwade09> jrib http://pastebin.com/8k5fDkbx
[09:19] <gogeta> aeMaeth: also adding a overhead of extracting and playing
[09:19] <erry> cause i messed mysql up and it wont updae
[09:19] <airtonix> crashanddie_, lol vim ? confusing keyboard shortcuts are confusing!!
[09:19] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, that's easy
[09:19] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: without making ANY changes to the other files
[09:19] <HomerPDX75> Hey all
[09:19] <gogeta> aeMaeth: not with a video it cant compress again
[09:19] <aaaoooaaa> i mean entries
[09:19] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, can you give me an example?
[09:19] <aaaoooaaa> ok
[09:19] <jrib> Dwade09: add "text" after all the lines with "quiet splash"
[09:19] <feindbild> that and dhclient assings a .0 ip >,< how the fuck is that even possible?
[09:19] <airtonix> ...
[09:19] <HomerPDX75> Just a late night question, what happened to Ubuntu running Android apps?
[09:20] <m4rk> hi there.. i installed ubuntu netbook remix, but the interface is so terrible, i've ended up using regular gnome. is there any benefit to switching to xubuntu?
[09:20] <gogeta> aeMaeth: limits of compresion in genrel
[09:20] <aeMaeth> it's already in the rar, and if he extracts it it's in two places now, so he's saying it's easier to leave it be
[09:20] <airtonix> !language | feindbild
[09:20] <gogeta> aeMaeth: extract delete rar
[09:20] <aeMaeth> gogeta, torrents :P means you want to leave them there so others can get the files
[09:20] <erry> um
[09:20] <erry> is there a way to ge tthe defaultk mysql db and settings back?
[09:20] <feindbild> ubottu: ok, gonna spam offtopic ...
[09:20] <gogeta> aeMaeth: well retards rar torrent videos
[09:21] <Dwade09> jrib do i delete quiet splash or beside quiet splash "text" ?
[09:21] <rocket16> How to set Me Menu to display our name and photo like in 10.04 in 10.10?
[09:21] <gogeta> aeMaeth: most are not
[09:21] <erry> aptitude seems to keep my dbs
[09:21] <jrib> Dwade09: depends on the behavior you want.  Both will stop gdm from starting
[09:21] <tr3nton> !alien
[09:21] <blackshirt> erry: what you mean ??
[09:21] <amagee> the machines can see each other.. i've told machine A to "share" a directory, i just don't know how to access that directory from machine B
[09:21] <aeMaeth> gogeta, it started because of irc, and carries on for ???? reasons
[09:21] <gogeta> aeMaeth: pretty mutch
[09:21] <erry> blackshirt, i want the mysql db back
[09:21] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: http://pastebin.com/XHm4JqRp line 79 : "IN_FS_2_00" needs to be changed to "IN_2_00_FS" and line "OUT_SV_5_01" "OUT_5_01_SV"
[09:21] <erry> like the mysql mysql db
[09:21] <Dwade09> thank you jrib i will add "text" beside them first.
[09:22] <gogeta> aeMaeth: usefill for files but bettery useless for a single video file
[09:22] <aaaoooaaa> there are about 127 of ins and maybe about 30-50 outs
[09:22] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, only on line 79 or all lines?
[09:22] <gogeta> utterly
[09:22] <gogeta> aeMaeth: at least for torrents
[09:22] <aeMaeth> gogeta, well, useless in this day and age, but when everyone had slow connections and it could corrupt,  packs were easier
[09:22] <blackshirt> erry: i don't know and can' figure out your problem... if you want back, you can install it again
[09:23] <gogeta> aeMaeth: yes i  was there lol
[09:23] <gogeta> aeMaeth: crupption was rely a issue in uxnet
[09:23] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: all
[09:23] <gogeta> aeMaeth: not so mutch irc
[09:23] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, I'm not actually seeing the OUT bit
[09:23] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, which line is the OUT?
[09:24] <gogeta> aeMaeth: point was once on pc or in torrent 50 rars is pointless
[09:24] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: 391
[09:24] <amagee> surely file sharing between ubuntu machines using nautilus should be straightforward?
[09:25] <Dwade09> thank you jrib so much and i am so sorry for being so confused it worked, again i am so sorry for all the trouble.
[09:25] <jrib> Dwade09: no problem, glad it worked
[09:25] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: the reason why i wanna do it via access/base is because thats one of the prescripted workarounds in the manual
[09:26] <aaaoooaaa> crashanddie_: let me see if i can get the manual
[09:26] <aeMaeth> amagee, i use apache...but samba i hear is easy to install
[09:26] <aeMaeth> actually i sftp
[09:26] <gogeta> aeMaeth: samaba err is installed
[09:27] <jrib> aaaoooaaa: if you're just renaming variables, I would just do what crashanddie_ is suggesting (using sed)
[09:27] <jrib> !away > JimmyJ|zz
[09:27] <amagee> ah, finally, found it https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/internet/C/networking-shares.html
[09:28] <amagee> would be nice if enabling a share actually installed the packages, or gave some indication that they need to be installed before it will work :S
[09:28] <gogeta> amagee: good news it does
[09:28] <jrib> amagee: if it didn't, you should probably file a bug
[09:28] <amagee> hmm although i am still using 10.04, maybe it's fixed now
[09:28] <aaaoooaaa> jrib : seD?
[09:29] <aeMaeth> !sed | aaaoooaaa
[09:29] <gogeta> amagee: its installed by defult
[09:29] <amagee> not for me it wasn't
[09:29] <aeMaeth> that said almost nothing about sed :(
[09:29] <aaaoooaaa> SED = CLI?
[09:29] <aaaoooaaa> ooops
[09:29] <jrib> aeMaeth: yes
[09:29] <jrib> erm
[09:29] <gogeta> amagee: if your not getting a conenction you have a firewall issue
[09:29] <airtonix> aaaoooaaa,http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt
[09:29] <metallico> hi guys, i cant start firefox
[09:29] <metallico> i get
[09:29] <metallico> /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.12/firefox-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.12/libxul.so: symbol snd_pcm_recover, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference
[09:29] <FloodBot3> metallico: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <airtonix> !enter
[09:29] <amagee> it started working as soon as i installed the packages
[09:30] <aeMaeth> aaaoooaaa, do a "man sed" for more details
[09:30] <jrib> aaaoooaaa: sed will let you do find and replace.  For example: echo foobar | sed 's/foo/xxx/'
[09:30] <gogeta> amagee: well bug there
[09:30] <petan> metallico: how did you install it
[09:30] <gogeta> amagee: its been auto installing sense 9.10 days
[09:30] <petan> metallico: through apt?
[09:30] <metallico> ap-get install firefox
[09:30] <gogeta> maybe earler
[09:30] <amagee> gogeta: so i should file a bug even though it's 10.04?
[09:30] <metallico> yes
[09:30] <gogeta> amagee: cant hurt
[09:30] <amagee> kk
[09:31] <blackshirt> hello ...
[09:31] <petan> metallico: try apt-get remove firefox and install it again
[09:31] <aaaoooaaa> jrib : im not too confident with using cli editors at this point so Im kinda stuck with having to try the database option
[09:31] <aaaoooaaa> is there a database chat room?
[09:31] <computer_> #database
[09:32] <jrib> aaaoooaaa: what I wrote is *basically* all you need to know.
[09:32] <computer_> ;-)
[09:32] <amagee> gogeta: where should i go to file the bug+
[09:32] <amagee> ?
[09:32] <metallico> i just reinstalled it and it didnt help
[09:32] <gogeta> amagee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[09:32] <petan> metallico: did it work before
[09:32] <amagee> gogeta: thanks
[09:32] <computer_> !bug
[09:33] <jrib> aaaoooaaa: maybe the openoffice channel can help you with base
[09:33] <jrib> !ooo | aaaoooaaa
[09:33] <petan> metallico: or it's since you installed it
[09:33] <amagee> gogeta: i don't know which package to file it against though
[09:33] <metallico> it was working in the begining, then i rebooted the computer and it stopped
[09:33] <gogeta> amagee: for sharing the samaba server i guess
[09:33] <petan> metallico: you upgrades something?
[09:33] <amarcolino> I have installed logcheck and looking at my ssh connections, nothing to worry, except for the ports. I have set an explicit port, however, ssh is connecting to other ports, would like to know why and how do I go about stopping that?
[09:34] <tomoyuki28jp> Emacs23 on ubuntu10.04 crashes too much. Where is the log file I should take a look at?
[09:34] <metallico> no, but i have installed a few addons
[09:34] <petan> metallico: try safe mode
[09:34] <petan> metallico: of firefox
[09:34] <computer_> !ports
[09:34] <metallico> same error when i try safe mode
[09:35] <gogeta> computer_: routher issue hua
[09:35] <petan> metallico: addons were installed on your profile? or with root permissions
[09:35] <metallico> my profile
[09:35] <petan> metallico: can you switch to guest profile to test if firefox work there?
[09:35] <gogeta> petan: root on firefox who set that bomb off
[09:36] <metallico> same error
[09:36] <petan> gogeta: I mean installed as root, that happens
[09:36] <metallico> both root and guest
[09:36] <petan> metallico: that is not related to addons then
[09:36] <erry> can i restore mysql from the way it was when i installed it
[09:36] <gogeta> petan: not unless your running ff as root
[09:36] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, very verbose on purpose: perl -pi -e's/,FS_2_00,/,IN_2_00_FS,/g && s/,,IN_FS_2_00,/,IN_2_00_FS,/g && s/,OUT_SV_5_01,/,OUT_5_01_SV,/g' example.csv
[09:36] <erry> purge seems to keep the config & dbs
[09:36] <jrib> erry: purge related packages and then install it again
[09:37] <petan> gogeta: some plugins like jre are packages
[09:37] <erry> jrib, it seems to keep the config and dbs tho
[09:37] <metallico> what does "relocation error" mean?
[09:37] <jrib> erry: because you aren't purging all related packages?
[09:37] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, my bad, just saw a typo: perl -pi -e's/,FS_2_00,/,IN_2_00_FS,/g && s/,IN_FS_2_00,/,IN_2_00_FS,/g && s/,OUT_SV_5_01,/,OUT_5_01_SV,/g' example.csv
[09:37] <erry> jrib, shouldn't mysql-server be enough?
[09:37] <jrib> erry: no, do a « dpkg -S /path/to/config_file_that_doesn't_die
[09:37] <jrib> »
[09:38] <erry> oh.
[09:38] <jrib> crashanddie_, aaaoooaaa: wouldn't that fail to make the substitutions on all lines?  I believe his variables show up in other fields (not isolated) too
[09:38] <erry> well nvm leave it
[09:38] <erry> i'll mess it worse
[09:38] <jrib> erry: you won't mess it worse
[09:38] <crashanddie_> jrib, then just remove the trailing commas
[09:38] <erry> jrib, how do youi know :p
[09:39] <jrib> erry: I'm from the future
[09:39] <erry> no wai
[09:39] <erry> jrib,  did earth die in 2012?
[09:39] <gogeta> jrib: oboma still nucking helthcare
[09:39] <crashanddie_> jrib, you are indeed correct
[09:39] <petan> metallico: I think it cant find the libraries ff needs are you sure you did not perform any updates before apart of that plugins? those plugin were installed through ff?
[09:40] <metallico> yes to both
[09:40] <gogeta> lol
[09:40] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, perl -pi -e's/FS_2_00/IN_2_00_FS/g && s/IN_FS_2_00/IN_2_00_FS/g && s/OUT_SV_5_01/OUT_5_01_SV/g' example.csv
[09:40] <jrib> crashanddie_: and initial I guess.  I'd use \< \> (syntax for sed, don't know if you need to escape in perl) to make sure you don't replace "foo" in "foobar"
[09:40] <crashanddie_> jrib, no idea, which is why I put the commas there
[09:41] <cabrilo> hello all... how do I enable session choosing in GDM in Ubuntu 10.04?
[09:41] <jrib> crashanddie_: echo 'foo bar foobar cat(bar)' | sed -e 's/\<foo\>/x/g; s/\<bar\>/y/g'
[09:41] <crashanddie_> jrib, yeah, he probably should do the second one before the first...
[09:41] <gogeta> cabrilo: press the session buttion
[09:41] <petan> metallico: try get it from mozilla.org just to ensure it's same
[09:42] <petan> metallico: just unpack it to ~/bin/ff/
[09:42] <crashanddie_> aaaoooaaa, anyway, you get the idea, feel free to ask some more questions if you have them. Good luck.
[09:42] <cabrilo> gogeta, no session button...
[09:42] <gogeta> cabrilo: shure is says session
[09:42] <cabrilo> it's strange though. I have it set up so there is automatic login after N seconds... during this time, I can choose a session, but that's the only time. e.g. when I log out, there isn't one
[09:43] <gogeta> cabrilo: unless your using auto login
[09:43] <cabrilo> gogeta, I tried without auto login too
[09:43] <cabrilo> and there isn't one
[09:43] <metallico> downloading now
[09:43] <n3rV3> cabrilo, try f10 on the login screen might work...
[09:44] <cabrilo> let me give that a try
[09:44] <cabrilo> n3rV3, nope :(
[09:45] <petan> metallico: run it from ~/bin/ff you can execute it from nautilus
[09:45] <cabrilo> I have universal access preferences, date/time and shut down buttons
[09:46] <zamba> i'm looking for a piece of software that can timeshift a potentially infinite video stream and let's the user extract portions of the video stream on demand.. does anyone know of something like that?
[09:46] <n3rV3> cabrilo, do you have any other desktop mangers...
[09:47] <cabrilo> n3rV3, kdm is also installed
[09:47] <cabrilo> but it's equally useless
[09:47] <cabrilo> I couldn't even get the list of users to show in kdm
[09:47] <oam> so, could someone point me in the general direction of setting up a global proxy, also taking care of https? iptables solved my http/ftp forwarding problems, but mitm attacks and all.. for https :/
[09:49] <vince_> hi there
[09:50] <metallico> i downloaded it and extracted to bin/ff what do i do next?
[09:50] <petan> metallico: open it and run it's binary
[09:51] <metallico> it started!
[09:51] <petan> metallico: ok do you want to repair apt version? this one will work only for you
[09:51] <cabrilo> seriously though, everybody else in 10.04 have session chooser in gdm?
[09:51] <ikonia> metallico: don't install anything from mozilla.org on your ubuntu install
[09:52] <ikonia> metallico: it will conflict with the versions installed by ubuntu and will not be managed by the package manager, so your desktop will not be aware of them
[09:52] <petan> ikonia: if he just unpack it will not break anything, in his home
[09:52] <cabrilo> can somebody give me an example of their settings? e.g /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[09:52] <Benoms> Hi, I use a laptop with ubuntu and have an external display in Clone mode (Nvidia 310M). My external screen is a higher native res than my laptop so things don't fit on the laptop screen when i'm using the external screen, which is fine, coz i'm using the external screen, but when i unplug the external screen, the laptop stays at the resolution too high for its screen (it doesn't squash, it just goes off the screen).  Does anyone know of a w
[09:52] <cabrilo> gogeta, n3rV3, could you please paste me somewhere your /etc/gdm/custom.conf?
[09:52] <ikonia> petan: depends how careful he is, there is no need to download anything from mozilla.org
[09:53] <petan> ikonia: this help us to find where is problem
[09:53] <petan> ikonia: you won't break apt version by unpacking it to ~/bin
[09:53] <n3rV3> cabrilo, one moment
[09:53] <ikonia> petan: how ?
[09:53] <vince_> Does anybody know what's going on with the latest Ubuntu update? I'm suig gnome and the new update features a lot of KDE-related updates.
[09:53] <ikonia> petan: how does this help resolve his problem
[09:53] <cabrilo> n3rV3, thanks
[09:53] <NocturnalGuy> can anyone help me with ddclient?
[09:53] <petan> ikonia: now I know that problem is not in plugins for instance
[09:54] <ikonia> petan: disabling plugins in the firefox pacakge in ubuntu would prove that
[09:54] <petan> ikonia: they are installed in profile and this new version started with them
[09:54] <jkp> question: im having a problem installing the exim package with apt....heres the output: http://pastie.org/1292182.  any ideas what i can do to fix this? (is it a bug?)
[09:54] <MrDudle> vince_: you probably have some kde apps
[09:54] <plitter> Hello, I added the sentence <options snd-hda-intel model=lifebook> in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf but nothings seems to really have changed after i rebooted, so i tried changed <options snd-hda-intel model=æøæaæøæå> and still nothing changed, is there something more i need to do to check different model settings?
[09:54] <metallico> i think, I will be ok starting it from /bin
[09:54] <jkp> fresh install of 10.10 server
[09:54] <petan> ikonia: and that libraries used by firefox ar not broken
[09:54] <Benoms> meh im going back to winblows then
[09:54] <vince_> whoops, faixed
[09:55] <Benoms> ubuntu isn't ready for noobs like me
[09:55] <jpds> Benoms: OK, your choice.
[09:55] <jrib> Benoms: let's try to stick to support.  That sort of remark doesn't get you help any faster
[09:55] <petan> ikonia: you have better suggestions?
[09:55] <Benoms> sorry
[09:55] <n3rV3> cabrilo, i don't have any file by that name... i am using lucid btw, don't know if there were any changes in this package
[09:56] <cabrilo> n3rV3, hmm... probably
[09:56] <cabrilo> do you have /etc/gdm at all?
[09:56] <metallico> i am happy i can start ff now, thanxxx very much, petan
[09:56] <petan> metallico: what was the error from apt version
[09:57] <n3rV3> cabrilo, yes :) i do
[09:57] <petan> metallico: you can keep this one sure, but update link in menu
[09:57] <metallico> /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.12/firefox-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.12/libxul.so: symbol snd_pcm_recover, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference
[09:57] <cabrilo> n3rV3, ok, thanks for the help though... I'll try to file a bug or something
[09:57] <petan> metallico: backup /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.12 to ~/bck
[09:57] <cabrilo> a bit annoying... I wanted to give KDE a try and realized I couldn't switch to it
[09:58] <petan> metallico: replace the file with version from ~/bin you will need to do that as root, I suggest to use mc for that
[09:58] <ikonia> metallico: do not do that
[09:58] <ikonia> metallico: your system will lose support
[09:58] <plitter> Hello, I added the sentence <options snd-hda-intel model=lifebook> in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf but nothings seems to really have changed after i rebooted, so i tried changed <options snd-hda-intel model=æøæaæøæå> and still nothing changed, is there something more i need to do to check different model settings?
[09:59] <petan> metallico: ok follow ikonia then
[09:59] <metallico> petan private
[09:59] <ikonia> metallico: dropping binaris and libraries in from mozilla.org to replace your core ubuntu packages is not supported
[09:59] <n3rV3> cabrilo, you can
[09:59] <n3rV3> you can try using kdm's login manager
[10:00] <n3rV3> cabrilo, if the issue is with gdm's login configs... it could work
[10:01] <berkes> how do I restart my desktopcouch server? I cannot find its "binary" or startscript.
[10:01] <cabrilo> n3rV3, probably is... thanks again
[10:02] <n3rV3> cabrilo, np
[10:02] <iflema> cabrilo in a terminal try      sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm    and login/change session with kdm
[10:03] <cabrilo> iflema, I tried that as well
[10:03] <cabrilo> no sessions in KDE either
[10:03] <cabrilo> in KDM
[10:03] <reza> hi
[10:05] <MACscr_lappy> so i created an image of my ubuntu 10.10 system before i reformeted. How do i restore my settings, such as thunderbird, pidgin, firefox, etc? I thought those were stored in my home directory
[10:06] <MACscr_lappy> i copied them back to my new profile (same username), but didnt seem to make a difference
[10:06] <zamba> what's the version proof way of controlling firefox configuration through gconf?
[10:06] <n3rV3> MACscr_lappy, need to change the ownership of the files....
[10:06] <n3rV3> :)
[10:07] <aeMaeth> MACscr_lappy, afaik that should have fixed pidgin and firefox, both are stored in a hidden folder in home
[10:07] <soulthief> http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=13864 economic strategy game... money in game = real money just try it! good luck
[10:07] <MACscr_lappy> n3rV3: i copied it with the regular user. Should i have done it with sudo?
[10:08] <MACscr_lappy> and if i use the * to copy it, will it get the hidden folders?
[10:08] <mpih> Hi, can anyone tell me what Debian release Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is build from? Is it Debian 6 or still debian 5?
[10:08] <MACscr_lappy> or hell, just tell me the correct way to do it =P
[10:09] <ikonia> mpih: neither
[10:09] <soulthief> http://www.anno1777.com/index.php?i=13864 economic strategy game... money in game = real money just try it! good luck
[10:09] <ikonia> mpih: what are you trying to do
[10:09] <MACscr_lappy> someone kick soulthief for being a spammer
[10:10] <MACscr_lappy> tks
[10:10] <mpih> ikonia, I'm not trying to do anything, just need to know what Debian version Ubuntu is from ;-)
[10:10] <ikonia> mpih: neither
[10:10] <ikonia> mpih: why do you need to
[10:10] <grunny> hi. I just upgraded from Ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 (WUBI) and now when I select Ubuntu on start up it doesn't boot into ubuntu it just takes me to GNU GRUB mash. Can anyone help me? :)
[10:11] <grunny> bash*
[10:11] <mpih> ikonia, Then what ? I know it's unstable but from what branch?
[10:11] <ikonia> mpih: why do you need to know
[10:11] <n3rV3> MACscr_lappy, are you done with the changes??
[10:11] <ikonia> mpih: it's taken from a package version at that moment in time
[10:11] <jrib> MACscr_lappy: * will not expand to directories that start with a '.'.  However .* will
[10:12] <n3rV3> MACscr_lappy, it would be along the lines chown -R u+x <username> /home/<pathtohomedir>
[10:12] <mpih> ikonia, type cat /etc/debian_version in Ubuntu 10.04 and you'll get the Debian version. I'm sitting with 10.10 unfortunately, so i cannot do it myself
[10:12] <madmn> net.org
[10:13] <ikonia> mpih: I don't understand why you need to know ?
[10:13] <MACscr_lappy> n3rV3: should i use sudo? or should that not be needed since i should own both sets of files already
[10:13] <lop> hi
[10:13] <Statium> õóÿñå òóò íàðîäó
[10:13] <lop> anyoneknows what webcam software can i use for ubuntu
[10:13] <Statium> hi all
[10:13] <ikonia> !webcam > lop
[10:13] <n3rV3> MACscr_lappy, yes you need to do that, :) i skip the most important details sometimes
[10:13] <n3rV3> :(
[10:13] <Statium> åñòü êòî ñ ðîññèè
[10:14] <ikonia> !ru | Statium
[10:14] <airtonix> !repeeat
[10:14] <mpih> ikonia, nevermind ;-)
[10:14] <sacarlson> lop:  I like cheese for web cam pics
[10:14] <Statium> no
[10:14] <Statium> !
[10:14] <lop> no?
[10:14] <MACscr_lappy> man i cant wait to get things restored so i can go to bed and have a working computer tomorrow to do actual work on =P
[10:14] <ikonia> Statium: english only,
[10:14] <Statium> I am familiar with the English
[10:14] <ikonia> Statium: please speakin English in this channel then
[10:15] <lop> ikonia: does skype ubuntu support webcam?
[10:15] <ikonia> !skype > lop
[10:15] <Statium> . ikonia . ok
[10:15] <lop> because i ve already have a default skype
[10:16] <lop> but that doesnt contain the webcam
[10:16] <sacarlson> lop: I think the new version of skype now supports web cam
[10:16] <MACscr_lappy> n3rV3: think that might restore some apps i installed with wine as well? i think wine stores things in the users home directory
[10:17] <_aum> After login into ubuntu box my mouse pointer goes away. but in the terminal when i input some character in comes back. can anyone tell me why this is happening ...
[10:18] <lop> sacarlson: my distribution is older ..how could i get the latest skype?
[10:18] <maxis> !list
[10:19] <AbhiJit> lop, from skype web site
[10:19] <sacarlson> lop: just go to skype.com
[10:19] <lop> sacarlson: will try now
[10:19] <murlidhar> what is the plugin required to play online audio streaming in the browser.... apparently i have install mozilla-plugin-vlc but nothing seems to be working !
[10:19] <murlidhar> installed*
[10:20] <AbhiJit> murlidhar, you told me you were using radio tray?
[10:20] <murlidhar> AbhiJit: yes but i want to check the link first
[10:20] <AbhiJit> murlidhar, okk
[10:20] <newbcakes> Hi guys... I recently installed Ubuntu via Wubi, and was trying to make a shell script to re-map my mouse buttons, so they work properly. However, I can't seem to give my little script execute permissions. Why?
[10:20] <murlidhar> AbhiJit: i wonder why it is not working in my browser ....btw hi : )
[10:21] <AbhiJit> hi murlidhar
[10:21] <AbhiJit> :)
[10:21] <lop> once i get into http://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/post-download/, how could i run .deb file?
[10:21] <sniperjo_> is there a way to lock my processor down to a certain frequency in Ubunutu eg C4
[10:21] <murlidhar> AbhiJit: it says plugin not installed.
[10:21] <AbhiJit> murlidhar, yeah i have no idea about it. give me link. let me try if opens ehre
[10:21] <murlidhar> AbhiJit: http://www.radiomaska.com/radio128.html
[10:21] <sacarlson> newbcakes:  did you try sudo chmod +x ./yourfilename
[10:21] <newbcakes> Yes
[10:22] <AbhiJit> murlidhar, hey but we also have the link for radio maska? you gave me?
[10:22] <sacarlson> newbcakes: what does ls -l yourfilename look like?
[10:22] <murlidhar> AbhiJit: yes i have but the thing is it is not working
[10:22] <sacarlson> newbcakes: -l is lower case L
[10:23] <murlidhar> AbhiJit: do you listen to radio teental ?
[10:23] <murlidhar> it is also good.
[10:23] <newbcakes> -rw------- 1 MyName MyName 157 2010-11-12 19:44 MouseKeys.sh
[10:23] <AbhiJit> murlidhar, i faced some problems with radiomaks in recent days too. from radio tray also and from rhythmbox also
[10:23] <AbhiJit> murlidhar, no give me link i mean ip
[10:23] <murlidhar> AbhiJit: http://94.23.0.147:8128
[10:23] <sacarlson> newbcakes: what did it return when you did $sudo chmod +x ./Myname ?
[10:24] <newbcakes> You mean MouseKeys.sh?
[10:24] <AbhiJit> murlidhar, thank you.
[10:24] <murlidhar> :)
[10:24] <sacarlson> newbcakes: also looks like you might want to try chown on it if you plan to run it as a normal user
[10:24] <newbcakes> It returned nothing
[10:25] <sacarlson> newbcakes: oh yes chmod +x MouseKeys.sh
[10:26] <newbcakes> Yeah nothing happens
[10:26] <AbhiJit> murlidhar, do you have opera?
[10:26] <murlidhar> AbhiJit: yes
[10:26] <sacarlson> newbcakes:  how is that posible?
[10:26] <AbhiJit> murlidhar, then try that link in opera. it wll take you to the plugin page after clikcing on it
[10:27] <murlidhar> AbhiJit: talk to me in the OT channel ...
[10:27] <sacarlson> newbcakes: oh maybe it's in a fat32 file system
[10:27] <newbcakes> NTFS
[10:27] <sacarlson> sacarlson: ok maybe that won't support chmod values
[10:27] <Spaztic_One> hello, is it possible to start rhythmbox with a command and have it immediately start playing a specific song / internet radio station?
[10:27] <rigved> newbcakes: it seems that you do not have enough permissions to run the file. are you the only user in your wubi install?
[10:27] <newbcakes> So how would I enable the drive to execute scripts? :(
[10:27] <newbcakes> Yeah
[10:28] <sacarlson> newbcakes: ok maybe that won't suport chmod values move the file to a dir that is in a file system that's unix
[10:28] <newbcakes> Uhhh... I installed it via Wubi - it's all NTFS :X
[10:28] <randomOfAmber> Spaztic_One: ctrl + alt + T, 'rhythmbox --help'
[10:28] <baron> where am i
[10:29] <sacarlson> newbcakes: I'm not sure but you can create file system inside filesytems that can then be mounted but I foget how to do that
[10:29] <sinai> ??
[10:29] <baron> 我很晕
[10:30] <newbcakes> Sounds pretty complex
[10:30] <rigved> !cn | baron
[10:30] <baron> 这里是做什么的？？
[10:30] <sinai> 还好了
[10:30] <Spaztic_One> randomOfAmber: do I need to do rhythmbox-client, or just rhythmbox?
[10:31] <sacarlson> newbcakes: is the file you want to run in your home account dirctory?
[10:31] <newbcakes> No, it's on an internal partition
[10:31] <newbcakes> Would it help if it was in my home directory?
[10:32] <sacarlson> newbcakes: just move the file to your home dir and try the chmod again
[10:32] <newbcakes> Ok
[10:32] <sinai> what is an internal partition?
[10:32] <newbcakes> omg
[10:32] <newbcakes> You're a freaking genius.
[10:33] <ranjan> how can we install Synaptics Gesture Suite™ Linux for TouchPads in Ubuntu?
[10:33] <newbcakes> sinai: The partition for an internally-mounted hard drive
[10:33] <sinai> oh,i get it
[10:34] <sacarlson> newbcakes: so I take it that chmod in your home works?
[10:34] <newbcakes> yeah
[10:35] <sacarlson> newbcakes: yes I have worked that same problem for hours to figure it out
[10:35] <rigved> whenever i try to log into wiki.ubuntu.com, i get an Unknown Time Zone Error. any ideas on this can be fixed?
[10:35] <ozram> anyone in here experienced with jackd, qsynth and playing with a midi keyboard in standalone? i could really use some help here. this keyboard is driving me nuts....
[10:35] <newbcakes> Yeah - there was something about remounting in fstab or something
[10:35] <newbcakes> But I think this way is a lot easier
[10:35] <sacarlson> ozram: I used to get jackd to work but only as sudo to start
[10:36] <ozram> it works
[10:36] <ozram> also qsynth
[10:36] <newbcakes> Alright, thanks a ton sacarlson
[10:36] <newbcakes> If this was reddit I'd upvote you ^_^
[10:36] <ozram> i just am inexperienced with linux.. and dont know what connections i need to setup in jackd
[10:36] <ozram> plus with a potential keyboard problem... its really hard to diagnose/try around
[10:37] <sacarlson> ozram: been a while but i ran something like patch
[10:37] <nickmoeck> I know that Intrepid is no longer supported but.... is there still an intrepid repo that can be accessed to install packages?
[10:37] <ozram> im working on this problem not since hours... we are talking about days here. including vmware attempts etc.
[10:37] <nickmoeck> I know the official one is gone
[10:37] <ozram> do i need soundfronts for qsynth?
[10:37] <ozram> to actually hear any sounds?
[10:37] <jrib> nickmoeck: old-releases.ubuntu.com, but you should only use it to get up to date and then upgrade to a supported release.
[10:37] <jrib> !upgrade > nickmoeck
[10:37] <sacarlson> ozram: what is standalone?
[10:38] <ozram> i mean... i dont care about any sequencer
[10:38] <Rem> hi guys, do you know of a channel to discuss gnome look at?
[10:38] <nickmoeck> jrib: thanks for the advice on that, but that's not gonna be possible. Thanks for the url though
[10:38] <ozram> i just want to play keyboard. here..
[10:38] <ozram> ;)
[10:38] <jrib> nickmoeck: why isn't it possible?
[10:38] <sacarlson> ozram: I used the keyboard software that interfaces the leter keys to the midi events to test it
[10:39] <ozram> what is it called?
[10:39] <nickmoeck> jrib: I'd rather not answer that ;)
[10:39] <jrib> nickmoeck: it's dangerous to use an unsupported release as you aren't getting security updates any more...
[10:39] <sacarlson> ozram: I used the tmidity
[10:40] <sacarlson> ozram: and virtual midi keyboard
[10:41] <sacarlson> ozram: opps and that was timidity
[10:41] <taran> where can I get the list of channels available
[10:41] <minimec> Hi I would like to mix (and record) two input devices (Zoom H2 + Logitech Headset) I guess I have to use some of the Moptions in Pavucontrol. How would I handle that?
[10:41] <ozram> ?
[10:41] <nickmoeck> jrib: I know. It's a testing/lab environment and I need to be on Intrepid for the stuff that I'm working on
[10:41] <ozram> why a virtual one?
[10:42] <sacarlson> ozram: I don't have a midi keyboard just the keyboard on my computer
[10:42] <sacarlson> ozram: I used it to test the sounds of drum synths and stuf
[10:43] <taran> what is the meaning of rtacker returned a 4xx message?
[10:44] <ozram> i am confused
[10:44] <ozram> sometimes are not listed in the top left apps section
[10:44] <ozram> so i go to the software center
[10:44] <ozram> when i search for timidity i find 2 entries
[10:44] <ozram> but how do i start the programs?!
[10:45] <ozram> alright
[10:45] <ozram> but timidity... plays midi signals in sound?
[10:45] <sacarlson> ozram: I think timidity starts at boot but can start it from the terminal
[10:45] <ozram> okay
[10:45] <ozram> so its like jackd or ... what?
[10:45] <sacarlson> ozram: yes timidity converts midi files to sound
[10:46] <ozram> i want to generate sound from midi signals
[10:46] <ozram> not files
[10:46] <sacarlson> ozram: no jackd is more like a sound mixer
[10:46] <ozram> i have a keyboard here
[10:46] <ozram> does timidity do that?
[10:46] <Osmosis> perdonar sabeis alguno como se llama el canal de Java no puedo conectar a #Java
[10:46] <ozram> i started it from console. all that happens is some text showing up.. thats it
[10:46] <sacarlson> ozram:  timidity simulates a synthisizer with midi events it creates sounds
[10:47] <sacarlson> ozram: you can use your keyboard to create the events to play it
[10:47] <Osmosis> Sorry i forget change the chip with the language XD!, somebody know what is the name of the Java channel?
[10:47] <ozram> dont know how some console text is supposed to generate sound for me from my keyboard. when i cant see anything starting in the gui?
[10:47] <Osmosis> with #Java i can not achieve connect
[10:48] <sacarlson> ozram:  the patch panel will be the gui part to route your midi events to the instruments you want to play
[10:48] <ozram> patch panel?
[10:48] <ozram> i dont see anything here
[10:48] <sacarlson> ozram: best take this offline this is not ubuntu related
[10:49] <sacarlson> ozram: you can pm me
[10:49] <ozram> okay, thanks.
[10:51] <minimec> How can I record two input devices at the same time with PulseAudio?
[10:52] <sacarlson> minimec: well your audio card might be sterio so it can record two sounds with a simple record program
[10:53] <sinai> hello,i am a greenhand,there is a software which named ‘Prism’ in my new OS, Who can tell me what it is? There are so many english that i can't understand well.
[10:53] <sacarlson> minimec: you can create internaly software generated sound with more chanels with a recording software like rosegarden
[10:53] <minimec> sacarlson: I have a Zoom H2 and a Logitech Headset. They are both working and shown in 'input devices' in pulseaudio. SHouldn't there be the possibility to mix these two devices and use them as 'recording device'?
[10:54] <sacarlson> minimec: sounds like two sound cards yes so you can use rosegarden or other to record them
[10:56] <minimec> sacarlson: Even more sound cards. 2x Webcam Sphere + Zoom H2 + Logitech Headset + Internal audio --> 5 input devices. Thx for the Rosegarden hint. Would I be able to stream the mixed devices or does Rosegarden just record them?
[10:57] <anygivenname> dunno what happened.....my keyboard is typing differently.....some keys are typing numbers instead of letters.....how do I restore it ?
[10:58] <bungle_> hi guys anyone ever experience unexpected shutdowns in meerkat?
[10:59] <bungle_> logviewer last messgae padlock: VIA PadLock not detected.
[11:00] <n3rV3> MACscr_lappy, i wasn't here
[11:00] <n3rV3> your issue was resolved?
[11:00] <PythonIt> Hi all
[11:02] <bungle_> any admins about?
[11:02] <sacarlson> minimec: I don't know about streaming.  you might be able to setup streaming with jackd if you can get it to work
[11:02] <bungle_> hi guys anyone ever experience unexpected shutdowns in meerkat?
[11:03] <minimec> sacarlson: Yeah... I would like to avoid Jackd, as I never used it. I have no clue how that works ;)
[11:03] <blackshirt> bungle: what you mean with unexpected shutdowns ??
[11:03] <rameshchandrasin> hi i just dwnloding this theme http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Overglossed?content=74813 but it dont giving me that promised wallpaper
[11:03] <bungle_> working away no problems then just shuts down
[11:03] <rameshchandrasin> http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=74813&file1=74813-1.jpg&file2=74813-2.jpg&file3=74813-3.jpg&name=Overglossed that one
[11:03] <rameshchandrasin> help
[11:04] <bungle_> done it about 4 times in the last 2 days
[11:04] <sacarlson> minimec: well it's the only software sound mixer I know but maybe pulseaudio will replace it someday or now for all I know
[11:05] <rameshchandrasin> sumbody!?!
[11:05] <MrDudle> there anyway to not have any panels?
[11:05] <bungle_> blackshirt,  last system message b4 unexpected shutdown -   padlock: VIA PadLock not detected.
[11:05] <rameshchandrasin> rigved
[11:05] <rameshchandrasin> u helpp me
[11:05] <minimec> sacarlson: Thx for your ideas anyway. If I find the time I will test a Jackd solution. For now I will just switch record devices with Pavucontrol.
[11:06] <rigved> rameshchandrasin: shoot
[11:06] <PythonIt> What's the +W mod ?
[11:07] <akoncius> hello
[11:07] <MrDudle> there anyway to not have any panels?
[11:07] <PythonIt> What's the +W mod ?
[11:08] <A1B2C3> Hello there, do someone use a 13 ou 14 inch laptop on ubuntu ?
[11:09] <PythonIt> 17' for me x)
[11:09] <blackshirt> bungle: are you have via processor ??
[11:09] <sinai> 14.1
[11:09] <A1B2C3> im lookin for a laptop of this size but have no idea where i can get a good model
[11:10] <bungle_> sorry what do you mean blackshirt
[11:10] <bungle_> my cpu is intel dual core
[11:10] <A1B2C3> sinai, can u give me details and how it is supported by ubuntu ?
[11:10] <rigved> !offtopic | A1B2C3
[11:11] <Kills> hey i have a problem trying to load ubuntu
[11:13] <Kills> trying to boot ubuntu
[11:13] <AKA-Cage> Then?
[11:14] <Kills> it gives an error message when i try to boot
[11:15] <Kills> any1 here?
[11:15] <MrDudle> of course
[11:16] <Kills> cant tell you what the error message is right now still waiting for it
[11:16] <Kills> its loading ubuntu now on the screen
[11:16] <hobomo> im trying to navigate to a folder through the terminal, but the folder contains special characters. anyone know how to get around this?
[11:17] <MrDudle> not have it have special characters is my advice
[11:17] <thierry> Hi all, I can not "ping archive.canonical.com" (that means I can not apt-get update). Anyone else?
[11:17] <pooltable> hi looking for a way to record web viedo thanks???
[11:17] <MrDudle> pooltable: how is that related to ubuntu?
[11:17] <hobomo> its a flash drive that got automatically renamed by Windows
[11:17] <MrDudle> thierry: let me check
[11:17] <blackshirt> hobomo: special character ??
[11:17] <pooltable> i need to work with ubuntu ?
[11:17] <popey> thierry: use a different mirror?
[11:18] <hobomo> blackshirt: yeah it has a y with an accent over it
[11:18] <MrDudle> pooltable: it's called google
[11:18] <popey> pooltable: you want to save flash videos?
[11:18] <MrDudle> thierry: canonical.com is pingable
[11:18] <MrDudle> i'd try apt-get update
[11:18] <joni47> hello
[11:18] <thierry> popey: I tried to switch to french one (because i'm french) but actually it links to main one, and i'm stuck
[11:18] <blackshirt> hobomo: what the special char you mean ?
[11:18] <popey> thierry: try the uk one, gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:19] <jpds> Yo.
[11:19] <popey> thierry: or just glare at jpds
[11:19] <pooltable> http://channelsurfing.net/watch-espn.html  not sure if it is flash
[11:19] <hobomo> blackshirt: the special character is a y with an accent over it. i dont know how to type that
[11:19] <MrDudle> pooltable: so you want us to help you steal espn?
[11:19] <blackshirt> hobomo: y^
[11:19] <blackshirt> ??
[11:19] <thierry> MrDudle: canonical.com is pingable, but archive.canonical.com is not
[11:19] <pooltable> just for example
[11:20] <MrDudle> pooltable: go to google.com
[11:20] <pooltable> than ?
[11:20] <MrDudle> search save flash videos on ubuntu
[11:20] <blackshirt> hobomo: what your folder name ?? i mean for simple name
[11:20] <MrDudle> oh my god so complicated :o
[11:20] <popey> !jfgi | MrDudle
[11:20] <pooltable> thanks
[11:20] <bungle_> hobomo, try using character map
[11:21] <MrDudle> I used no acronym
[11:21] <thierry> popey: gb.archive.ubuntu.com this one ping
[11:21] <hobomo> MrDudle: you're being annoying though
[11:21] <popey> thierry: the gb one is usually pretty quick
[11:21] <MrDudle> hobomo: because i think people should use google for stupid questions?
[11:21] <popey> MrDudle: you're just firing the user looking for support at google, which isn't particularly supportive
[11:21] <MrDudle> popey: yes it is
[11:21] <popey> MrDudle: no such thing as stupid questions
[11:21] <MrDudle> Yes there are.
[11:22] <MrDudle> If you can get it on google without really needing help then do it.
[11:22] <Kills> ok what could be the problems that ubuntu doesnt boot on a laptop neither from usb neither from a cd
[11:22] <pooltable> how get kamefu to work to play turbo grafix 16 games?
[11:22] <MrDudle> A question about what software to record flash on ubuntu is something easily answered in google
[11:22] <MrDudle> it's just lazy
[11:22] <bungle_> people just ask questions without trying to solve it themselves first which is very annoying especially when there is so much info out there already
[11:22] <popey> MrDudle: its possible to help people without being rude
[11:22] <pooltable> i was not sure on if it was flash sorry
[11:23] <MrDudle> pooltable: or google desktop recording on ubuntu
[11:23] <MrDudle> google is a valuable resource for a reason
[11:23] <hobomo> blackshirt: sorry i cant figure out how to paste the name here
[11:23] <Kills> ok what could be the problems that ubuntu doesnt boot on a laptop neither from usb neither from a cd
[11:23] <root> hi
[11:23] <pooltable> i know mrdudle
[11:23] <hobomo> bungle_: what do you mean by using a character map
[11:23] <MrDudle> pooltable: so you are just too lazy to do the work yourself
[11:23] <popey> MrDudle: enough
[11:23] <bungle_> For flash videos, you can just copy the file from /tmp and then use ffmpeg2theora to convert it from .flw into .ogg.
[11:24] <bungle_> DivX videos and all other videos that are opened with mplayer-plugin can be usually saved from the player's right-click menu after the video has been fully downloaded.
[11:24] <bungle_> There are also man Firefox extensions for saving video content from web pages.
[11:24] <FloodBot2> bungle_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:24] <kerim> hi folks
[11:24] <popey> pooltable: gtk-recordmydesktop is a useful app for recording the screen
[11:24] <bungle_> hobomo applications...accessories ....character map
[11:24] <pooltable> not mrdudle just was not sure what to look for
[11:24] <blackshirt> hobome: use asteriks (*) for replacing
[11:24] <MrDudle> popey: I never ask a question here without first googling it extensively
[11:24] <popey> MrDudle: great!
[11:25] <MrDudle> especially when it's a question about what's the best software to record things
[11:25] <blackshirt> kerim : hi
[11:25] <pooltable> bungle what is the fiefox app call?
[11:25] <Josh__> ...
[11:26] <tankdriver_> archive.canonical.com is down. Are there any mirrors?
[11:26] <pooltable> bungle is this it Mozilla Archive Format (with Faithful Save) ?
[11:27] <Josh__> Not that I can think of
[11:27] <MrDudle> tankdriver_: gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <popey> MrDudle: thats not a mirror of archive. *canonical* .com
[11:27] <bungle_> capturefox
[11:27] <tankdriver_> MrDudle: thank you!
[11:28] <popey> tankdriver_: that wont work
[11:28] <pr0mised> hello! how can i enable for an user on my ubuntu just access your /home/username for the user can access other /home/otheruses or cd /etc/ this user can access JUST ONLY your HOME
[11:28] <Josh__> Uh
[11:28] <trojan_spike> pr0mised, users and groups
[11:29] <CookiesnMilkz> I'm having problems installing gimp on 10.10 it's even failed from the software center
[11:29] <Josh__> Yeah
[11:29] <tankdriver_> popey: you are right, package 404 - not found
[11:29] <popey> CookiesnMilkz: do you get a specific error message?
[11:29] <Josh__> Check your internet connection
[11:29] <popey> tankdriver_: I'm sure the sysadmins are on it
[11:29] <n3rV3> !chmod > pr0mised
[11:29] <Josh__> Or the server is down
[11:30] <tankdriver_> Ill try it later. thank you
[11:30] <CookiesnMilkz> It's unable to connect, so the server might be down
[11:30] <Josh__> your welcome
[11:30] <popey> it is
[11:30] <pr0mised> n3rV3 and trojan_spike: thanks! i'll read.
[11:31] <Josh__> If you can still recive chat messages, then your internet connection isn't down
[11:31] <crankyadmin> Anybody here running Zsh?
[11:31] <Josh__> nope
[11:31] <n3rV3> Josh__, yes you are facing connectivity issues?
[11:31] <blackshirt> CookiesnMilkz: can you pastebin your output completely ?
[11:31] <crankyadmin> s/running/using/
[11:31] <Josh__> nope
[11:31] <n3rV3> crankyadmin, no m using bash only
[11:31] <airtonix> how do i create a ufw rule to deny incoming packets from 192.168.1.3 through to 192.168.1.254 ? (192.168.1.1 is WAN gateway and 192.168.1.2 is my server )
[11:31] <CookiesnMilkz> Yeah, one sec.
[11:32] <blackshirt> CookiesnMilkz: i'm waiting for that .. :-D
[11:32] <CookiesnMilkz> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gimp/gimp_2.6.10-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb  Unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:http: [IP: 91.18
[11:32] <crankyadmin> For anybody reading the channel. Can you try running byobu (apt-get upgrade first) from Zsh and then from bash. Thanks
[11:33] <Josh__> For the last time, THIS IS NOT A ADVERTISEMENT!
[11:33] <bazhang> Josh__, whom are you addressing
[11:33] <airtonix>  /ignore Josh__ all
[11:33] <Josh__> crankyadmin
[11:33] <blackshirt> CookiesnMilkz: check your internet connection,..check your sources.list too..
[11:33] <cast> CookiesnMilkz: ping google.com :)
[11:34] <bazhang> Josh__, please prepend your responses with the user's nick
[11:34] <Josh__> M dad says to google everythin
[11:34] <Josh__> g
[11:34] <jpds> cast: What does Google have to do with us.archive?
[11:34] <crazy_bmw> ping IP
[11:34] <Josh__> yeah, it has nothing to help with
[11:35] <EvilWar> херасе народу О_о
[11:35] <Josh__> What? It can't search IP addresses
[11:35] <blackshirt> CookiesnMilkz: maybe repository server you are using down ?
[11:35] <bazhang> !who | Josh__
[11:35] <Josh__> Try another one
[11:35] <bazhang> EvilWar, /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:35] <cast> jpds: nothing. think carefully what that tests :)
[11:35] <popey> For people having issues with repositories, response from canonical sysadmins:- "known issue.  We're on it"
[11:36] <RainKing> hi all
[11:36] <crankyadmin> Josh__, I'm not advertising I'm trying to diagnose a bug on launchpad. That seems to be affecting Ubuntu users... where best to ask than in an Ubuntu IRC channel.
[11:36] <CookiesnMilkz> I'll try again and see what happens.
[11:36] <popey> crankyadmin: which bug?
[11:36] <cast> i really think people should have multiple servers listed in sources.list, for when this kind of thing happens
[11:36] <crazy_bmw> à áåëîðóñêèé ÿçûê ïîíèìàåòå
[11:36] <crankyadmin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/byobu/+bug/674217
[11:37] <cast> it is a bit disheartening that us.archive.ubuntu.com is down though :(
[11:37] <jpds> cast: It's more disheartening that us.archive isn't even in the US.
[11:38] <martinerkul> how do I change between sessions in terminal? 'm  logged on via putty
[11:38] <blackshirt> jagoan: mas jagoan neh :-D
[11:38] <bao> hello
[11:39] <CookiesnMilkz> All fixed
[11:39] <cast> ahhh, us.archive.ubuntu.com. is working again :)
[11:39] <gogeta> hey are the repos being unstable atm
[11:39] <popey> cast: yup
[11:39] <popey> yes, us.archive.ubuntu.com had an issue which has now been resolved
[11:39] <Josh__> Yay....
[11:39] <cast> what was the issue?
[11:40] <popey> no idea
[11:40] <Josh__> I don't know
[11:40] <popey> "Network outage affecting archive servers"
[11:40] <blackshirt> bao: hello
[11:40] <cast> ah
[11:40] <Josh__> Maybe someone un-plugged it, (No)
[11:40] <jpds> Josh__: Haha, "it".
[11:40] <gogeta> k was helping someone and everything got unstable lol
[11:41] <Josh__> Yay?
[11:41] <pr0mised> n3rV3: there explain how user permissions, but my directory structure is, /home/web/SITENAME/www/ so, reading there i don't see how to set permissions for the user just get access in your home /home/web/pr0mised.com/www/ for the user promised can't leave from your directory /pr0mised.com/www/
[11:42] <Josh__> You can't, it's not possible
[11:42] <Josh__> But you can make it
[11:42] <Josh__> wait, it is possible, sorry
[11:43] <cast> sounds like your average shared web hosting setup
[11:43] <Josh__> Yeah
[11:43] <Josh__> He might be using the network version
[11:43] <cast> let vsftpd deal with limiting them to their homedirs :)
[11:43] <Josh__> You know, with,
[11:45] <n3rV3> pr0mised, exactly if you set your user permissions then user can't get out if s/he doesn't have access to outer dir
[11:45] <n3rV3> though i don't know if there is some other setting for apache which i think you are refering to
[11:45] <pr0mised> n3rv3: good! but i want set permission for example chmod -R permission_number /home/web ?
[11:47] <martinerkul> can I have multiple "desktops" in terminal?
[11:47] <jrib> martinerkul: screen or tmux
[11:48] <martinerkul> for example.. now I'm in irssi.. and want another session where I can do stuff on my comp
[11:48] <jrib> martinerkul: yes, use screen or tmux
[11:49] <martinerkul> so I have to quit irssi now to get that installed? :P
[11:49] <jrib> martinerkul: maybe you can ctrl-z irssi?  I don't know
[11:49] <n3rV3> pr0mised, that is correct, but you want to deny user access to outer dir so change ownership of outer dir to root
[11:49] <jrib> martinerkul: you can also just open up a new terminal
[11:51] <martinerkul_> right.. so now i'm using screen.. (I think) .. how do I switch between this stuff? :P
[11:51] <jrib> !screen | martinerkul_
[11:51] <martinerkul_> or I could just google it.. :P
[11:51] <jrib> martinerkul_: ctrl-a ?  will give you a cheat sheet.  But you can just ctrl-a c  for a new window and ctrl-a # where # is a number to switch tabs.  I've switched to tmux though
[11:52] <martinerkul_> mkay .. ty
[11:52] <bao> so many
[11:53] <bao> thanks
[11:53] <martinerkul> lol.. think I ahve multiple irssi's running now :P
[11:55] <martinerkul_> yeah.. I'm screwing this up :p
[11:56] <Vogg> hello ~ i have a new installation of ubuntu 10.04 lts and it is all working .... except firefix, which will only connect to gogle .. all other websites it will not connect to .. can any one help ?
[11:56] <martinerkul> finally got the hold of it
[11:57] <Vogg> hello ~ i have a new installation of ubuntu 10.04 lts and it is all working .... except firefix, which will only connect to gogle .. all other websites it will not connect to .. can any one help ?  also the updater seems to fail on almost all patches
[11:58] <Vogg> hello ~ i have a new installation of ubuntu 10.04 lts and it is all working .... except firefox, which will only connect to google .. all other websites it will not connect to .. can any one help ?  also the updater seems to fail on almost all patches
[11:59] <Vogg> hello ~ i have a new installation of ubuntu 10.04 lts and it is all working .... except firefox, which will only connect to google .. all other websites it will not connect to .. can any one help ?  also the updater seems to fail on almost all patches (DNS works fine as does ping)
[11:59] <vincenzo_> salve sono nuovo volevo chiedere se in questa chat si possono scaricare anche file di film
[12:00] <Gnome1919> hi
[12:00] <erUSUL> !repeat | Vogg
[12:00] <erUSUL> !it | vincenzo_
[12:01] <vincenzo_> chiedo scusa come faccio per andare su ubuntu.it
[12:01] <Gnome1919> helloi
[12:01] <Gnome1919> is anybody there?
[12:02] <n3rV3> Gnome1919, i am here
[12:02] <ozram> -> /join #ubuntu.it @ vincenzo
[12:02] <ranjan> hi all, how can i move a window using my laptops touchpad only like in windows.
[12:02] <ozram> senza "flecha"
[12:02] <Gnome1919> hi everyone
[12:03] <Gnome1919> i have a question about netbook LCD brightness control
[12:04] <Gnome1919> dc!
[12:04] <Gnome1919> i have a question about netbook LCD brightness control
[12:05] <Gnome1919> it seems i'm unable to find that
[12:05] <Gnome1919> my keyboard function key is not working either
[12:07] <Gnome1919> :((
[12:13] <gbear14275> how can I tell if a machine has internet access?
[12:13] <gbear14275> nvm...
[12:16] <gbear14275> ok different question.  I setup a VM and am able to read the ip addr value... but is there a way to query a site or service to determine if that site/service can see the machine...  Thinking of something similar to whatismyip.com for a headless machine
[12:17] <Vogg> hello ~ i have a new installation of ubuntu 10.04 lts and it is all working .... except firefox, which will only connect to google .. all other websites it will not connect to .. can any one help ?  also the updater seems to fail on almost all patches (DNS works fine as does ping)
[12:18] <sebra> my rootpassword: 3
[12:19] <akoncius> has anybody tried software for lowering fan speed?
[12:20] <akoncius> i googled quite long time, and haven't found anything usable
[12:21] <Sk00rchen> hey guys! Need your help with locating what fills up my disk. My /var is suddenly completely full. du --max-depth=1 tells me it's in "." but I cannot find anything there with ls?
[12:23] <babu__> audio not playing in amrok...wat's the reason
[12:24] <gbear14275> Sk00rchen, I don't think you are going to get anything other than  . with a max depth of 1
[12:24] <babu__> audio not playing in amrok...wat's the reason
[12:24] <gbear14275> I ran that command on my system and got the same thing
[12:24] <babu__> audio not playing in amarok...wat's the reason
[12:25] <Vogg> hello ~ i have a new installation of ubuntu 10.04 lts and it is all working .... except firefox, which will only connect to google .. all other websites it will not connect to .. can any one help ?  also the updater seems to fail on almost all patches (DNS works fine as does ping)
[12:25] <gbear14275> Sk00rchen, nvm... I forgot to put sudo at the front
[12:25] <Sk00rchen> gbear14275: well, the large files should be directly under /var then, but there is no files there?
[12:25] <gbear14275> Sk00rchen, are you running th command as root?
[12:25] <babu__> audio not playing in amarok...wat's the reason
[12:25] <gbear14275> babu__, have mute on?
[12:26] <Sk00rchen> gbear14275: yes
[12:26] <babu__> no..
[12:26] <wegue> babu_,your desktop enviroment is gnome or kde
[12:26] <babu__> hv both gnome n kde..using both
[12:27] <ubuntu> hi, i've got problem with radeon xpress 200 with  ubuntu 10.10, I know that, amd doesn't support this, but it should work with open drivers but it doesn't work :-(
[12:27] <wegue> the default enviroment is gnome that's rigth?
[12:27] <ubuntu> yes
[12:27] <babu__> yes
[12:27] <aurilliance> I'm using xcalib -co 40 -a (bound to F9) to dim my screen, but I need a seperate keyboard binding to un-dim my screen. Is there a trick I could use to have one key to toggle the dimming?
[12:27] <aurilliance> I'm guessing It'd require some one-line bash sweetness beyond my skills
[12:28] <wegue> may be device crashed
[12:28] <joaovrmaia> #ubuntu-server
[12:28] <babu__> pls reply
[12:30] <wegue> I was meet such a problem before, the information shows that device or software crashed
[12:31] <iceroot> ubuntu: x200m is not using the vga driver, its using the chipset driver (look at website from amd/ati)
[12:32] <happzcrew> Hi can any one help? I have Win7 Ultimate 64, I installed Ubunto 10.10, had the option to boot into either Ubunto or windows 7, booted into Ubunto, restarted, and now there is no option to boot into windows 7, it has disappeared!!!! HELP!!
[12:34] <meanieface> ubunto hehe
[12:34] <happzcrew> ubuntu!!
[12:34] <happzcrew> sorry
[12:35] <wegue> try live CD to rescue
[12:35] <happzcrew> you are talking to someone that has NEVER used anything linux based!!
[12:35] <happzcrew> I am quite proficient in winblows though!!
[12:35] <happzcrew> does not help!!
[12:35] <happzcrew> LOl
[12:36] <berkes> happzcrew, that I doubt, so much hardware runs on linux under the hood :)
[12:36] <ubuntu> try sudo update-grub in applications>accesories>terminal
[12:36] <happzcrew> ok ta
[12:37] <happzcrew> it says you must run this as root!
[12:37] <babu__> pls reply
[12:37] <babu__> audio not playing in amarok...wat's the reason
[12:38] <ubuntu> have you written "sudo"?
[12:38] <ubuntu> sudo update-grub
[12:38] <happzcrew> no!
[12:38] <mawst> Yes
[12:38] <salvita> ola
[12:39] <lea123> hi I am trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my existing Vista. it gives me three options viz. Install along side , erase and use the entire disk and lastly the specify partion for advanced users
[12:39] <lea123> I need my VISTA to run along side Ubuntu for the timebeing
[12:40] <berkes> lea123, that would be Install along side.
[12:40] <lea123> i hope it doesn't write on my hidden partion where my OS and other recovery information is stored
[12:41] <lea123> Otherwise I am done
[12:41] <ubuntu> the safest option is wubi
[12:41] <lea123> I have had a terrible experience with WUBI
[12:41] <ozram> what happened?
[12:41] <ozram> im using wubi atm
[12:42] <ozram> its on the same partition as win7
[12:42] <lea123> Just conked off one fine day .... lost quite a bit of data
[12:42] <ozram> win data too?
[12:42] <happzcrew> Found linux image:    /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic    Found initrd image:    /bootinitrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic      Found memtest86+  image:  /boot/memtest86+.bin
[12:42] <ozram> or only ubuntu stuff?
[12:42] <lea123> And people suggested Wubi isn
[12:42] <lea123> isn't the best installation
[12:42] <ubuntu> i installed ubuntu on 18 computers with wubi and it works every time....
[12:42] <lea123> WOW
[12:43] <lea123> Well after 5 months it was over for me
[12:43] <ozram> how would i go over about uninstalling wubi from my main part.?
[12:43] <aurilliance> Ok, I've written the following one liner that toggles a dimmed screen, and bound it to F9, but when I try it it spits an error. Executing it from a terminal doesn't give any error... Why's that?
[12:43] <aurilliance> if [ "$screendimtoggle" -eq "1" ]; then export screendimtoggle=0; xcalib -co 40 -a; else export screendimtoggle=1; xcalib -c; fi;
[12:43] <ozram> without like... losing my win7 and everything? :]
[12:43] <ikonia> !wubi > ozram
[12:43] <aurilliance> !wubi > aurilliance
[12:44] <berkes> lea123, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot has some hints on different hidden-partiion setups.
[12:44] <ozram> maybe ill check out kxstudio and see if that works with my midi problem.
[12:44] <ozram> :/
[12:44] <berkes> maybe yours is listed there, lea123?
[12:44] <lea123> berkes I am on that page but it gives me the older version of ubuntu not 10.10
[12:45] <ozram> btw uninstaller page = 404
[12:46] <aurilliance> Anyone know why my one liner doesn't work when mapped to a keyboard shortcut? ^^
[12:47] <ozram> i think im gonna uninstall it right now and check out kxstudio
[12:47] <ozram> see no other option atm
[12:47]  * ozram bbl
[12:48] <berkes> lea123, I assume you already have windows and want to install ubuntu alongside? Or the other way around?
[12:48] <lea123> I have windows vista already
[12:48] <lea123> I chose the advance option
[12:48] <ubuXubu> yes!
[12:49] <lea123> I see the 3 partions sd1, sd2, sd3 instead of C , D and the hidden partion for windows recovery
[12:49] <ubuXubu> i dont want to interupt but i just di 18 windows-ubuntu dual booters
[12:49] <ikonia> lea123: you won't see drive letters in an ubuntu installer
[12:49] <lea123> how do I know which one is C or D ??
[12:49] <ubuXubu> if u need anything im here
[12:49] <mil0> Hi. If I tunnel my web traffic through a socks5 proxy, am I limited to the connection of the proxy or do I get the full bandwith of of my connection?
[12:49] <ikonia> ubuXubu: what are you talking about
[12:50] <ubuXubu> help installing ubuntu beside windows
[12:50] <ubuXubu> i am good a that but ill stay on the side if i am interupting
[12:51] <austenn> hmm i tried using a proxy server from home once...
[12:51] <lea123> Thanks ubuXubu ...
[12:52] <austenn> although i have hi speed cable, data connection came to a crawl on proxy
[12:52] <lea123> ubuXubu ... How will I get to know which one is C or D from SD1, SD2 and SD3 ?
[12:52] <ubuXubu> if u are trying to identify which one is your main c drive windows one way is by the size lea123
[12:52] <mil0> so looks like im limited to the proxies bandwith
[12:53] <austenn> yea i think so, but not sure on this
[12:53] <lea123> But C and D was equally divided ..
[12:53] <dewy> hi, im just about to setup a server with ubuntu alternate 10.10 using this computer http://www.ebuyer.com/product/219937 its 64bit.  Im just wondering what is the better choice, the amd64 or the i386
[12:53] <aftertaf> hey all : anyone know why on my LAN i'd have big latency at times for ssh and for nfs between my PC and server ? (all on 10.10)
[12:53] <aftertaf> dewy:  64 bit.
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> dewy:  i use 64bit OS when ever possible.
[12:53] <mil0> thanks austenn! i suppose i should just test and come back with results
[12:53] <aftertaf> me too
[12:53] <ubuXubu> c will be 1st ahead of it, plus since all your files are on c it will be bigger
[12:53] <lea123> I hadn't stored anything in D however it still says 93 MB in use
[12:53] <lundtor> lea123: cat /etc/fstab
[12:53] <dewy> thanks dr_willis and aftertaf so ill go for the AMD64
[12:54] <aftertaf> :)
[12:54] <ubuXubu> c is 1st
[12:54] <chicognu> lea123, with file type ?
[12:54] <aftertaf> latenct even seems to freeze yakuake when i'm trying to access file system by nfs
[12:55] <ubuXubu> lea123 if u are too confused u can simply dowload wubi and it will install ubuntu as a file in windows
[12:55] <aftertaf> latency
[12:55] <lea123> chicognu Linux files..
[12:55] <chicognu> lea123, it is some reservad space to super-user
[12:55] <chicognu> lea123, nothing to worry about
[12:55] <lea123> ubuXubu I had done the wubi didn't reach anywhere hence some help required
[12:55] <aftertaf> lea123: mount both of them in live CD and look in Nautilus (explorer-type)
[12:56] <ubuXubu> lea123 you installed WUBI already?
[12:56] <lea123> long time ago ... and it conked off
[12:56] <ubuXubu> conked off?
[12:56] <ubuXubu> never heard of that but ok
[12:56] <brujoh> hey all, every time I install the nvidia driver on my fresh ubuntu 10.10 install I reboot and get a black screen. Any ideas?
[12:56] <lea123> just didn't work one fine day
[12:56] <ubuXubu> lea123 did u uninstall it
[12:57] <lea123> yep
[12:57] <aftertaf> brojoh : press ALT-F1 and enter console. then cat /X11 log files in /var/log
[12:57] <lea123> I am getting 3 options change delete revert against SD1,sD2 and sd3 Do i need to click on them ??
[12:58] <aldya-^-> hello
[12:58] <ubuXubu> lea123 the steps are as follows
[12:58] <aurilliance> Ok, I've written the following one liner that toggles a dimmed screen, and bound it to F9, but when I try it it spits an error. Executing it from a terminal doesn't give any error... Why's that?
[12:58] <aurilliance> if [ "$screendimtoggle" -eq "1" ]; then export screendimtoggle=0; xcalib -co 40 -a; else export screendimtoggle=1; xcalib -c; fi;
[12:58] <ubuXubu> choose either to install it side by side and ubuntu will divide it up for u or
[12:59] <lea123> yeah I am going in for the install side by side
[12:59] <crashanddie_> aurilliance, no need for quotes around 1
[12:59] <brujoh> aftertaf, I had to reload to fix it. Unfortunately if I install it I will be broken again with no x :(
[12:59] <crashanddie_> aurilliance, just add an echo to see which branch it's taking
[12:59] <ubuXubu> advanced..and if that one, u size it yourself, u choose ext3 or 4, u choose /   , u choose to format and u choose a swap artition which is ram x 2 or less if u like
[13:00] <crashanddie_> ubuntu, "you"
[13:00] <sory> hi~~
[13:00] <aftertaf> brujoh: then look in the logs for that time/date :)
[13:00] <sory> can I ask a question ?
[13:00] <crashanddie_> !ask | sory
[13:01] <sory> ok
[13:01] <lea123> OK .. ubuXubu but I don't need the windows recovery partion to be overwritten hence I chose advanced to make sure it doesn't overwrite it
[13:01] <brujoh> aftertaf, I scrubbed the drive :(
[13:01] <sory> thankx
[13:01] <sory> sudo modprobe tap     when I do this    it comes out a problem ->FATAL: Module tap not found.
[13:01] <ubuXubu> lea123 good idea u may need it someday
[13:01] <sory> what should I do ?
[13:02] <ubuXubu> lea123 have u already made your windows back up disks?
[13:02] <crashanddie_> sory, "tap" isn't the correct name
[13:02] <crashanddie_> sory, basically, when you say "modprobe xxx", it tries to find a module for the kernel named "xxx". In this case, you asked it to load the module called "tap", and it can't find it.
[13:02] <aftertaf> lea123: best is to boot in livecd and to shrink / create partitions before running installer
[13:03] <aftertaf> lea123: if you know how to do that you're good to go.
[13:03] <sniperjo__> im getting a error :  [26195:26195:226658678793:FATAL:chrome/browser/browser_main.cc(881)] Check failed: PathService::Get(chrome::DIR_USER_DATA, &user_data_dir). Must be able to get user data directory! when starting chromium
[13:03] <sory> if I change it to "tuns" , is it same ?
[13:03] <ubuXubu> lea123 have you made your windows back up disks?
[13:04] <sniperjo__> if i run the same command on the local machine it works, through a telnet script i get that error
[13:06] <pale> in in lucid, why audacious 2.3 doesnt support volume scroll % like in earlier versions?
[13:07] <lea123> BTW SDA2 is listed as the Windows Recovery Environment (loader) ????? Its corresponds to the C drive I suppose given the size of SD2 ...
[13:07] <lea123> I thought the Windows Recovery Environment loader was the smallest partion amongst all ..
[13:08] <ubuXubu> lea123 have you made your windows back up disks yet?
[13:08] <lea123> yes
[13:08] <lea123> data backups yes
[13:10] <zamba> how do i add a shortcut to every users desktop?
[13:10] <zamba> it's basically just a .desktop file
[13:10] <ubuXubu> lea123 if u have chosen to protect your recovery partition as you stated then you are ready, if in doubt you can ask your computer manufacturer to be sure about securing that, but if you made your back up disks your even more secure.
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> zamba:  if you want to do it for all newly made users. put it in /etc/skel
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> zamba:  for allready made users.. not sure of a proper way to do that..
[13:10] <zamba> Dr_Willis: ok
[13:11] <lea123> ubuxubu Any idea why the Windows Recovery Environment loader is showing as the largest partion ?? Thats quite confusing
[13:11] <ubuXubu> lea123 no
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  Windows Recovery Env. Loader. may be the Windows 7 'boot' partition. or a 'system recovery' partition for restoreing windows.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  how large is it?
[13:12] <leadZERO> Are there any good GUIs for Server that can control the various services? IE, DHCP, DNS, Web, FTP?
[13:12] <ubuXubu> lea123 it includes your entire OS and the software to create those backup disks
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> leadZERO:  dont use webmin. :) theres another alternative.. ebox perhaps? i forget its name
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> !ebox
[13:12] <leadZERO> thanks
[13:12] <aftertaf> got an answer : First of all, you can make "UseDNS no
[13:13] <lea123> Dr Willis its showing 125 GB which is the size of C drive... Vista has partioned my HDD into 3 partions viz C 125GB , D 125 GB and 1.6GB recovery partion
[13:13] <TanteIngo> huhu
[13:13] <ubuXubu> lea123 but when you create your ubuntu partition you will be making that separate altogether and using ext 3 or 4 your choice and you will not be touching the windows partitions
[13:13] <aftertaf> lea123: last time i changed partitions on a preinstalled 7, I ended up formatting all and reinstalling from a DVD
[13:13] <aftertaf> when I removed the recovery partition :)
[13:13] <blue_anna> since I installed links2, links from applications like empathy dont open in firefox
[13:14] <blue_anna> sometimes, like from pidgin, it uses links2, but others, like with empathy, it gives me an error
[13:14] <lea123> ubuxubu Dr Wilis Any idea why the Windows Recovery Environment loader is showing as the largest partion ?? Thats quite confusing for me
[13:14] <binky> hi all.  i've created 2 users, user1 and user2.  I then created a group, group1, and added user1 and user2 to it. Then, i did a chgrp to /home/user2 to group1.  Then did a chmod 775 to /home/user2.  My problem is, user1 can't write, even though he's part of group1.  For example, if as user1 I do a "touch newfile" inside /home/user2 I get access denied. Anyone have any ideas what I forgot to do?
[13:14] <blue_anna> but xchat continues to open them in firefox .)
[13:14] <ubuXubu> lea123 i would ask the manufacturer to be sure
[13:14] <lea123> Aftertaf precisely I don't want to get into that mess at all
[13:15] <blue_anna> binky, add user2 to group1 ?
[13:15] <ubuXubu> lea123 how big is your hard drive
[13:15] <lea123> ubuxubu what shall I ask the manufacturere ??
[13:15] <lea123> its 250GB
[13:15] <binky> blue_anna: yea both are added...
[13:15] <aftertaf> lea123: if you have a large windows partition (check via livecd which are which) then shrink away :)
[13:15] <Consul_Falx> folks, please, how about installing a usb hsdpa/edge modem?
[13:15] <ubuXubu> lea123 ask them about yor recovery partitoon
[13:15] <blue_anna> binky, ooh .. and chown -R user#:group1 /home/user#
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  the 1.6gb is proberly the actual recovery partition. sounds liek the furst one is just a odd name.
[13:15] <zamba> how do i lock the homepage for a user in firefox?
[13:16] <lea123> Yeah but its (recovery partion)  hidden you see
[13:16] <Consul_Falx> I have huawei E270 and ubuntu lucid amd64
[13:16] <binky> blue_anna: i wasn't aware that u can chown for a group... just users?... checking man....
[13:16] <blue_anna> binky, even after that, you might need to be sure that the primary group for each user is group1
[13:17] <lea123> Sorry Dr. Willis I didn't understand ..
[13:17] <ubuXubu> lea123 you may be better off choosing the side by side option..after confirming which one is your recovery partition
[13:17] <lea123> Are you sure the side by side will not attempt to write on the partition recovery disk
[13:18] <lea123> What is the the meaning "device for boot loader installation" ??
[13:18] <ubuXubu> lea123 thats why i said call your manufacturer and confirm which one the recovery is
[13:18] <ubuXubu> lea123 grub should be prechecked off for that
[13:19] <binky> blue_anna: the primary group is their names... so for it to work i have to change each one's primary group? what if I have other groups where one needs access but the other doesn't?
[13:19] <lea123> ubuxubu the manufacturere will not reply since its a VISTA machine
[13:19] <Benoms1> Hi, i'm trying to use ubuntu as a sort of home file server. Can anyone tell me if there is a way i can do file/folder replication. I want to make sure that a cop certain folders (eg, photos) are present on more than 1 disk and would like this to be automatic.
[13:19] <lea123> also its a hidden partition
[13:19] <ubuXubu> lea123 yes they will if they preinstalled vista
[13:19] <ubuXubu> i know its hidden
[13:19] <Benoms1> cop of*
[13:19] <Benoms1> copy**
[13:19] <blue_anna> binky, well for the touch to work, you shouldnt need to do that. but if you want user2 to be able to open the file after user1 creates it, you need to make sure the file is created with the shared group permissions
[13:20] <lea123> Would they be knowing in terms of SD1, SD2 and SD3 ?? you mean ..
[13:20] <ivgenij> hello
[13:20] <blue_anna> binky, if you have many shared groups that they work with, your users will have to get used to the chown/chgrp commands
[13:20] <Consul_Falx> please
[13:20] <ubuXubu> lea123 they will know exactly the  size and where it lies as opposed to c drive
[13:20] <ivgenij> здесь руские есть?
[13:21] <Consul_Falx> help me, i need to configure an 3G/edge modem Huawei E270 on Lucid64
[13:21] <ubuXubu> lea123 and that will give you confidence when we build your new partitoon
[13:21] <binky> blue_anna: right i got you there, but the problem is i can't write to the directory to even do the touch...
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  you can examine all the partitions from a live linux cd. and see ahts on them.
[13:21] <blue_anna> binky, the key is to think of it as a binding between groups of files and a purpose, not a binding between groups ofpeople and a purpose
[13:21] <pibarnas> Consul_Falx: its blue light turn on and you cant navigate?
[13:21] <blue_anna> binky what is the owner and group of /home/user# (where you are touching a file)
[13:22] <lea123> ubuXubu , Dr Willis :  the graphic clearly shows the linear order of the partion first the hidden 1.6GB then 125 and 123GB ... which are the C and D drives
[13:22] <ubuXubu> lea123 when i looked at ubuntu's graphical representation of my disk, you don't seem confident
[13:22] <blue_anna> sorry, groups of people and the files ..
[13:23] <lea123> THE SD1 is the 1.6GB..
[13:23] <ubuXubu> lea123 i meant when i saw that graph i could clearly see where everything was
[13:23] <lea123> sd2 = 125GB
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> lea123:   I would guess the 1.6 is the windows recovery partition. Look on the partition see what files is there. sda1 would be the 1.6gb i imagine.
[13:23] <binky> blue_anna: the owner is user2.  the group it's under is group1, user1 and user2 are members of group1, the dir i am trying to write in to touch, is 775  so owner:rwx and group:rwx, but its denying user1 write...
[13:23] <Consul_Falx> pibarnas: it's blinking in blue and i can access the ROM on the device
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  if sda3 is empty of files. you could install linux there.
[13:23] <blackshirt> hello
[13:23] <lea123> Dr Wiliis precisely correct
[13:24] <blue_anna> binky, that's not exactly what I was expecting .. try touching a file in user1's home and changing the group to group1, then moving it there?
[13:24] <lea123> Dr. Willis Well it says no root file system is defined
[13:25] <lea123> and I can't  go further
[13:25] <ubuXubu> choose / lea123
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  you need to delete the partiton thats empty. and let the installer use the space where its at.
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  thats one way to do it. or manually make the partitions.
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  you must have a / partition and a swap partition as a minimum.
[13:26] <austenn> Graphics:  Card Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller X.Org 1.6.4 Res: 1024x768@85.0hz
[13:26] <austenn>            GLX Renderer Mesa DRI Intel 915GM GEM 20090712 2009Q2 RC3 x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version 1.4 Mesa 7.6 Direct Rendering Yes
[13:26] <lea123> Dr. Willis You mean choose SD3 and hit DELETE is it ??
[13:26] <austenn> Info:      Processes 130 Uptime 1:10 Memory 119.4/2004.5MB Client X-Chat 2.8.6 inxi 1.2.6
[13:26] <binky> blue_anna: i will try to see what happens, but in the end im trying to do a samba share and control access via groups... so it's got me stumped, because the samba permissions are all set but the simple writing for group access is not working right from the console...
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  for starters it would be 'sda3'  and if its empty.. you can delete it..
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  it can NOT be a ntfs/ or vfat/windows aprtition. You must make linux partitiosn.
[13:27] <kek> why does this work in the terminal but not from a script? echo !(5.*|*.sql|backup|dibs)
[13:27] <blue_anna> binky, wait is this a local drive or a drive across the network?
[13:28] <lea123> Dr_Willis OK now it says free space I believe I need to hit new partion table right ??
[13:28] <petrolman> Hi, I would like to test MariaDB, is there already a package for this db?
[13:28] <binky> blue_anna: the mv didn't work either, access denied.  no i can't get the rights working on the actual box
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  new partition.. not partition table....
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> kek:  is the script using Bash or sh?
[13:28] <binky> it's ubuntu server 10.10
[13:29] <duckx0r> is there a way to change the language for menus and windows by the command line?
[13:29] <kek> Dr_Willis: tried both. Using #!/bin/bash -i at the top of the script makes it work...
[13:30] <lea123> Dr. Willis Wow I didn't know that difference which meant - I had to hit ADD and it brought a small dialog box asking me to choose the type of new partion from primary or logical ??
[13:30] <blue_anna> binky, okay .. I dont know how samba works .. the groups and users you have on one machine are only superficially related to the groups and users of another .. for example if you removed the remote drive and plugged it in locally, and it had a user uid 555 named pinky, that disks files would show up with the name of the user with uid 555 on your local machine. your problem is actually with samba and not with unix fs, the f
[13:30] <blue_anna> ilesystem part you have set up correctly
[13:30] <binky> blue_anna : some extensive searching in google before i came here made me think it was acls... but not sure
[13:30] <greywalk> hi
[13:31] <blue_anna> Im surprised , windows still uses samba?
[13:31] <binky> blue_anna: sorry to confuse... i should not have mentioned samba... even in my simplest original example, having nothing to do with samba, just standard unix commands, it's not working.
[13:31] <blue_anna> binky, well, you said the drives you are writing to are not local
[13:32] <lea123> Dr. Willis a small dialog box asks me to choose the type of new partion from primary or logical ??
[13:32] <greywalk> i have a question - ubuntu 10.10 - i cannot start ntfs-config tool - it asks for the password, but the application does not launch. can anyone help me with that?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  i always use primaries
[13:32] <lea123> K
[13:32] <blue_anna> binky, if the drives are on a different machine than the user permissions files, that would explain the errors
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  if you just saved the layout with  that partition deleted.. you could restart the isntaller and tell it to use 'unallocated' space. and it would auto partition.
[13:33] <binky> blue_anna: i was just letting you know where i eventually was trying to get.  im saying that i cant get a simple touch on local drive with local users working with group permissions.
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> lea123:  example layout --> (windowws recovery)(windows) (/) (swap)
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> bye all.. bbl
[13:33] <amurabi> hola
[13:33] <maverickjesus> does anyone know if its possible to change the screen draw size in ubuntu?
[13:33] <binky> blue_anna: samba is not the issue, i should not of mentioned it.  my apologies.
[13:34] <Osmosis> Do you know something why the ##java channel is not accesible?
[13:34] <blue_anna> binky that should work .. there are examples online that demonstrate the effect. is there free space on the drive?
[13:34] <maverickjesus> regardless of whether I use nvidia/ati, ubuntu draws outside the edges of my lcd
[13:34] <maverickjesus> its really annoying
[13:34] <n3rV3> yes maverickjesus if you are looking to change screen resolution
[13:34] <binky> blue_anna: yea, many gigs :)
[13:34] <LjL> !identify > Osmosis    (Osmosis, see the private message from ubottu)
[13:34] <petrolman> the java channel has been closed by oracle ;-)
[13:34] <ikonia> petrolman: no it's not
[13:34] <amurabi> hello everbody
[13:35] <greywalk> hello everyone. i need some assistance, if possible - i cannot launch ntfs-config tool - the system asks for the root password, i introduce it, and nothing happens, the app won' launch.. is there a way to fix this?
[13:35] <n3rV3> maverickjesus, thats your display(hardware) settings, find the menu button on screen and try adjusting
[13:35] <binky> blue_anna: yea it seems to me straight forward, but for some reason permisson is being denied.
[13:35] <lea123> What is the difference between primary and logical partion ??
[13:35] <ikonia> lea123: nothing
[13:35] <duckx0r> maverickjesus, could be your monitor. is there some sort of "auto" button on it?
[13:35] <binky> blue_anna: owner works, root works, but group doesnt
[13:35] <ubuXubu> lea123 i chose logical and i saw doctor said primary so dont worry
[13:35] <maverickjesus>  its an LCD tv for a media center
[13:35] <LjL> lea123: there can only be 4 primary partitions, so logical partitions are a trick to have more. basically, one primary partition is designated as an "extended partition" and can contain several more "logical partitions"
[13:36] <ubuXubu> mine works great
[13:36] <maverickjesus> reason I ask is it never used to do it
[13:36] <maverickjesus> only since I updated to 10.10
[13:37] <wangyu> 三大
[13:37] <lea123> OK ubuxubu then I am sure i need to choose location for the partion as end rather than the beginning right considering my windows recovery partion is in the front
[13:37] <lea123> or beginning
[13:37] <wangyu> 有中国人没有阿
[13:37] <Osmosis> LjL i dont have created a password
[13:37] <binky> blue_anna: i suppose i should fire up a gentoo vm i have and try it there, but to me this seems so basic... albeit i havn't messed with groups on ubuntu before, but i assumed the same across platforms...
[13:37] <Osmosis> LjL just a username
[13:37] <ubuXubu> lea123 build it, make it ext 3 or 4 (3 is better IMO), format it, choose / as the mount point
[13:38] <ikonia> ubuXubu: why is 3 better ?
[13:38] <ubuXubu> i said i like it better
[13:38] <LjL> Osmosis: then make one, you need to have one to join that channel
[13:38] <LjL> !register > Osmosis    (Osmosis, see the private message from ubottu)
[13:38] <ubuXubu> 4 id for massice files
[13:38] <ikonia> ubuXubu: why do you prefer 3
[13:38] <ikonia> ext4 isn't for "massive files"
[13:38] <ubuXubu> 4 is for massive files waaay bigger than i will ever use
[13:38] <ikonia> no it's not
[13:39] <ikonia> it's performance in general on small files is much greater than ext3
[13:39] <ubuXubu> plus i had issue with 4
[13:39] <ubuXubu> and it went away with ext 3 for me
[13:39] <lea123> I thought version 4 would be the latest  :)
[13:39] <ubuXubu> u pick the one u want
[13:39] <ikonia> lea123: version ext4 is the latter
[13:39] <ubuXubu> lea123 as i said 3 or 4
[13:40] <lea123> What is the meaning of mount ?
[13:40] <ikonia> lea123: make the disk visible to the operatoring system
[13:40] <ubuXubu> lea123  choose /
[13:41] <ubuXubu> ikonia there have been issues with 4
[13:41] <_MadWolf_> I used wireshark to find out why my network doesn't work under ubuntu, 192.168.1.1 returns 2 different MAC addresses... but why does it work under windows?
[13:41] <blue_anna> binky, from user1 if you issue the command groups do you see group1 in the list ?
[13:42] <binky> blue_anna: yes
[13:42] <ikonia> ubuXubu: not for a long time
[13:43] <ubuXubu> ikonia interesting that you did not mention it
[13:43] <ubuXubu> ikonia when i need answers sometimes i want the sure bet and 3 is that
[13:43] <blue_anna> binky, because I noticed, I did usermod -G team -a blue and opened a new console and my groups didnt include team
[13:44] <blue_anna> even though /etc/group does include me .. I'm trying to reproduce it
[13:44] <ikonia> ubuXubu: there are still bugs in 3
[13:44] <ikonia> ubuXubu: interesting that I did not mention what ?
[13:45] <ubuXubu> ikonia maybe so, but i have never ever seen them
[13:45] <binky> blue_anna: strange, you are having a diff problem than i am now ;)
[13:45] <hariom> I am getting error while connecting to an external server using OpenVPN. It connects sometimes but most of the times it gives this error: TLS key negotiation failed to occur with 60 sec.
[13:45] <ikonia> ubuXubu: errrr "ok"
[13:45] <hariom> How to solve that?
[13:45] <ubuXubu> ikonia but i have seen odd behaviour in 4 but then again thats just me i told lea123 3 or 4
[13:45] <quiescens> o.o
[13:45] <ikonia> ubuXubu: why are you still going on about this
[13:46] <ubuXubu> so enough of the 3/4 stuff
[13:46] <binky> blue_anna: you can do a sudo groups "user" to get the groups for that from any user with sudo
[13:46] <quiescens> anyyywayy
[13:46] <ikonia> hariom: looks like your machine and the target can't do a TLS hand shake
[13:46] <StaRetji1> hi folks, how can I autostart xfce4 session as root?
[13:46] <binky> blue_anna: if you do an id user it gives more details with uuid
[13:47] <LjL> StaRetji1: don't you think there are easier ways to hoose your system?
[13:48] <StaRetji1> LjL: it's htpc system on usb stick and I need root privileges to run some bash scripts. It's behind a router, nothing important on it, just xbmc
[13:48] <osmosis_paul>  /msg nickserv register politron politrons@hotmail.com
[13:48] <LjL> osmosis_paul: do it again, with another password and without spaces before the /
[13:48] <hariom> ikonia: Yea, true but why is it so?
[13:48] <StaRetji1> lol
[13:48] <ikonia> hariom: probably a version miss-match
[13:48] <hariom> Is it something to do with MUT settings?
[13:48] <tsimpson> StaRetji1: so use sudo
[13:48] <hariom> MTU
[13:48] <ikonia> hariom: no, very doubtfufl
[13:48] <blue_anna> binky, look here. http://nopaste.dk/p2584 I dont really have a problem. and this works, so it should work for you
[13:49] <crashanddie_> hariom, it means that the client can't connect to the server
[13:49] <crashanddie_> hariom, make sure that you can access UDP port 1194
[13:49] <blue_anna> binky, assuming you dont have something particular to your set up that messes with file permissions
[13:49] <hariom> version miss match? I have 2.1.4 installed and the server has the same.
[13:49] <hariom> ikonia:version miss match? I have 2.1.4 installed and the server has the same.
[13:49] <StaRetji1> tsimpson: did that before, but got permission problems from time to time. I would really like root xsession running and not asking for password. I could edit sudoers to not ask password, but I would really like also xfce4 to be started as root user
[13:50] <ubuXubu> lea123 the nice thing is ubuntu will actually tell you if you made a crucial mistake and will make you go back and fix it.
[13:50] <ikonia> hariom: 2.1.4 of the open vpn client/server ?
[13:50] <Vogg> is there anyone here who can actually help me yet ?
[13:50] <blue_anna> binky, notice simply opening a console after adding myself to the group was not sufficient, I had to spawn a new login process
[13:50] <ubuXubu> lea123 as far as mount, or format and stuff like that goes
[13:50] <crashanddie_> !help | Vogg
[13:50] <lea123> ubuxubu :) I beg to differ but yes you are right about ext3 they are some issues with ext4 its primarily for large files
[13:51] <hariom> ikonia: on both
[13:51] <ikonia> hariom: most odd
[13:51] <Vogg> i have read the giudes and can find nothing of value ..
[13:51] <ubuXubu> lea123 i know thank you i have done my homework and i just did 18 dual booters hehe
[13:51] <crashanddie_> Vogg, ask a question
[13:51] <Vogg> its all baby speak
[13:51] <tsimpson> StaRetji1: by default the root user is disabled, so you can't login to it. also many DEs disable login as root anyway
[13:51] <lea123> ubuxubu :)
[13:51] <cast> blue_anna: fyi, you can use newgrp team to save relogging in
[13:51] <crashanddie_> hariom, can you connect to port 1194 on UDP?
[13:52] <blue_anna> binky, oo damn, I missed one of the commands in the log .. sorry, I was cutting and pasting by hand. also didnt obfuscate all of my login names :P
[13:52] <Vogg> fire fox will only connect to google ..
[13:52] <tsimpson> StaRetji1: just run a the as root and you can run whatever commands you want without entering a password every time
[13:52] <ubuXubu> lea123 i think overall ikonia knows more than me but i have 18 dual boot computers in my basement hehe
[13:52] <blue_anna> cast, yes
[13:52] <quiescens> blue_anna: in short that is pretty much the expected behaviour, the list of groups you belong to are set when you log in
[13:52] <binky> blue_anna: so you suppose it has something to do with loading access tables per session?
[13:53] <lea123> ubuxubu :) OK its now ready to format it I guess ..
[13:53] <Vogg> does anyone have any idea why firefox will connect to google on http but absolutely no other wibsites ?
[13:53] <sresu> I would like to convert a media file from one format to another. Which multimedia trancoder other than arista can help me do that?
[13:53] <blue_anna> binky, http://nopaste.dk/p2585 here it is with the chmod
[13:53] <ubuXubu> lea123 dont worry if u skipped a step ubuntu will tell u!!!
[13:53] <crashanddie_> Vogg, does the dns work on other websites?
[13:53] <ubuXubu> ubuntu is awesome
[13:53] <lea123> ubuxubu :) OK its now ready to format it I guess .. the freespace has now been renamed as SD3..
[13:53] <Vogg> in terminal using netstat -a -n -t -u i can see connections being made
[13:53] <popey> sresu: what format do you want to convert to?
[13:53] <Vogg> my router logs show the packets being allowed
[13:53] <blue_anna> binky, try newgrp group1 && touch $HOME/user2/foo
[13:53] <heiher> how to chmod /proc/<pid> ?
[13:53] <sresu> popey: .asf to .3gp
[13:53] <crashanddie_> Vogg, does dns work?
[13:54] <Vogg> yes DNS works
[13:54] <hariom> ikonia: What do you mean? I have got instruction to use 2.1.4 and it connects few times. But I do get errors most of the times
[13:54] <tsimpson> heiher: you an not
[13:54] <crashanddie_> Vogg, what happens when you tracepath another website?
[13:54] <popey> sresu: thats tricky, 3gp is a format we don't support out of teh box, you might need medibuntu ffmpeg codecs for that
[13:54] <StaRetji1> tsimpson: I've added password to root user and I have ssh access for root. So, I thought if I start xfce4 session as root I could run apps as root also, plus I have some bash scripts, I guess they will run without a permission problems if ran as root user.
[13:54] <ubuXubu> lea123 hey you did the job right by making all your back ups 1st so just dive in
[13:54] <popey> sresu: vlc might be able to do it though
[13:54] <blue_anna> binky, if tht works then yes, you just needed to log in again
[13:54] <ikonia> hariom: I mean it's odd that it's complaining of a TLS error
[13:54] <heiher> tsimpson: sysctl ?
[13:54] <sresu> popey: Otherwise, .asf to .wmv
[13:54] <Vogg> tracert shows normal network path
[13:54] <popey> sresu: ffmpeg should be able to do that
[13:55] <sresu> popey: or to .avi
[13:55] <crashanddie_> ikonia, it's probably a NAT problem, but he can't be bothered to answer my questions.
[13:55] <lea123> ubuxubu sorry the freespace has now been renamed as SD5 with ext3 filesystem and not sd3
[13:55] <sresu> popey: ok, thanks
[13:55] <DarkStar1> Hi. I know this may not be the right room for it but I need help with tomcat because I an't seem to join the tomcat room
[13:55] <popey> sresu: there is a program called winff (for linux as well as windows) which is a pretty frontend to ffmpeg
[13:55] <ubuXubu> lea123 ok
[13:55] <crashanddie_> Vogg, please reply using my nickname
[13:55] <ikonia> crashanddie_: ooh really, I didn't think of nat
[13:55] <ikonia> !register > DarkStar1
[13:55] <sresu> popey: Sure, I'll try that
[13:55] <tsimpson> heiher: /proc is a virtual filesystem, the permissions are those that the program is running under
[13:55] <silvio_> http://xdccing.com/
[13:55] <ikonia> DarkStar1: if you register you can join the tomcat channel
[13:55] <Vogg> crashanddie_; ok
[13:55] <crashanddie_> ikonia, the tls handshake within 60s problem is usually because the client can't connect to UDP 1194
[13:55] <tsimpson> heiher: the only thing that can modify those permissions is the program itself
[13:56] <DarkStar1> I am registered
[13:56] <ikonia> silvio_: why did you post that
[13:56] <DarkStar1> This nick is registered
[13:56] <lea123> ubuxubu;  Well like you said it now says you have not selected partiotions fpr use as swap space ??
[13:56] <ikonia> DarkStar1: doesn't show you as identified
[13:56] <Vogg> crashanddie_; this is a vanilla install of U 10.04 LTS
[13:56] <ubuXubu> ok lea123 make swap now
[13:56] <crashanddie_> Vogg, can you telnet to port 80 of other websites?
[13:57] <ubuXubu> lea123 how much ram do u have
[13:57] <DarkStar1> ikonia: I joined it last night, so I am registered. Besides I can join this channel
[13:57] <tsimpson> StaRetji1: you can try running xfce manually from ssh with X11 forwarding, but I can't say if it would work or not
[13:57] <ikonia> DarkStar1: #tomcat is the correct place to ask
[13:57] <blue_anna> please help me solve this - since I installed links2, links from applications like empathy dont open in firefox. sometimes, like from pidgin, it uses links2, but others, like with empathy, it gives me an error
[13:57] <lea123> ubuxubu : How to make the swap ?? I have 2 GB credit crunch :)
[13:57] <silvio_> !list
[13:57] <silvio_> saaalve
[13:57] <silvio_> !list
[13:57] <ikonia> silvio_: stop it
[13:57] <crashanddie_> !ops silvio_ piracy dude
[13:57] <ikonia> crashanddie_: it's fine, I see it
[13:57] <Vogg> crashanddie_; i have to rebot system to find out as Ubuntu will not install IRC client
[13:58] <hariom> ikonia:How can I solve that? I tried by disabling firewall but still no luck
[13:58] <greywalk> hello!
[13:58] <ubuXubu> lea123 check off swap and i still believe, unlike many ppl here that swap should be ram x 2
[13:58] <ikonia> hariom: check with crashanddie_, he has an idea
[13:58] <DarkStar1> ikonia: If only I could Join the channel. I can join any other channel except tomcat
[13:58] <StaRetji1> tsimpson: ok, will try that, thx for the tip
[13:58] <heiher> tsimpson: i want top display process myself.
[13:58] <LjL> ubuXubu: can you give a reason for that?
[13:58] <ubuXubu> lea123 but if u have a crunch choose a lot less
[13:58] <ikonia> DarkStar1: probably because your not identified
[13:58] <lea123> ubuxubu : How to make the swap file ??
[13:58] <ubuXubu> LjL the machine will run bwtter when opening huge files
[13:58] <tsimpson> heiher: you usually don't need to change the permissions to gather those statistics
[13:58] <LjL> ikonia: he is identified, and the channel is not +r
[13:58] <hariom> crashanddie: Hi, I am getting OpenVPN (ver 2.1.4) error: TLS key negotiation failed to occur with 60 sec.
[13:58] <LjL> ubuXubu: why?
[13:59] <ikonia> LjL: thanks
[13:59] <greywalk> when I added another keyboard layout - there appeared an icon with keyboard in the Indicator Applet - how do I disable that icon?
[13:59] <lea123> ubuxubu : How to make the swap file ? Should I choose the REVERT option >>
[13:59] <Quagmire> Hello Guys, Did a fresh install of 10.04 LTS a few days ago and now each time I wake the system up from hibernation mode the screen will dim after just a very few seconds, but it doesn't always do the dimming thing. It will do it for a while, then quit, then do it again later. The only thing that stops it is a reboot. No, this is not a huge deal, but I'm curious if anyone else has noticed it or knows a cure (besides rebooting.) .LOL
[13:59] <ubuXubu> LjL u know why
[13:59] <ikonia> DarkStar1: in that case, ask in #freenode why you can't join #tomcat as there are no bans in that channel
[13:59] <hariom> crashanddie: recommended by ikonia to contact you
[13:59] <crashanddie_> hariom, as I was saying earlier, please ensure that port 1194 is available on UDP
[13:59] <ubuXubu> lea123 if i recall you check it off when offered
[13:59] <ubuXubu> lea123 then you pick the size
[13:59] <LjL> ubuXubu: no, i don't. even assuming that *all* of the RAM will be swapped out to make space for the huge file, there'd still be 1x the RAM swap space free that would find absolutely no use
[14:00] <tsimpson> heiher: most of the "files" you need are world-readable
[14:00] <hariom> crashanddie: I have firewall off on my pc. I can't control server as it is external.
[14:00] <lea123> ubuxubu  : Nope it didn't offer me anywhere ..
[14:00] <ubuXubu> LjL lea123 still has not stated the ram on her system as i requested
[14:00] <crashanddie_> hariom, if it's a public server, maybe you could share the URL for us to check?
[14:00] <ubuXubu> or i  missed it
[14:00] <lea123> ubuxubu  : its 2GB RAM
[14:01] <ubuXubu> lea123 once again i will say whay i do but u can do less, i like 4 gb swap
[14:01] <hariom> crashanddie: its not public server. Corporate server.
[14:01] <furi> i'm trying to install oss4-base with apt-get, and "something wicket happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - no address associated with hostname)"
[14:01] <ubuXubu> lea123 2gb or even 1 is ok
[14:01] <heiher> tsimpson: ps aux same as ps aux | grep username. how to do it ? thanks!
[14:01] <furi> oops, i mean wicket
[14:01] <furi> wicked...
[14:01]  * cast sits quietly, having not used swap for over half a decade
[14:01] <furi> typos, typos
[14:02] <hariom> btw, if there is any public server where I can try to connect and see if it is config problem at the corporate end or at my end?
[14:02] <hariom> Do you know any such public server?
[14:02] <crashanddie_> furi, that doesn't look like a valid address
[14:02] <quiescens> for the most part because almost any amount of swap is negligible relative to the size of the disks
[14:02] <kalib> Anyone using Vostro 3300?
[14:02] <hariom> crashanddie: Do you know any such public server where I can try connecting
[14:02] <crashanddie_> furi, please check your sources.list and ensure that you don't have :http trailing
[14:02] <ubuXubu> lea123 the swap will be utilsed as virtual memory if needed
[14:02] <furi> crashanddie_, i don't understand why that's happening
[14:02] <lea123> ubuxubu  :  Where exactly does it give the option of making the swap partion ??
[14:03] <ikonia> lea123: have you read the install guide ?
[14:03] <furi> crashanddie_, i'm on an xubuntu livecd trying to fix my computer
[14:03] <binky> blue_anna: appreciate you working with me... something funky is still going on.. still trying things... thanks.
[14:03] <lea123> ubuxubu  :  cool I went back all the things seem to be there..
[14:03] <crashanddie_> furi, do you need OpenSound for that?
[14:03] <ubuXubu> it will bring up a box
[14:03] <furi> crashanddie_, on top of that, i have no idea where that file is
[14:03] <quiescens> people just seem to have this thing against having swap space, as though turning off swap completely will inexplicably make the computer faster, which even if it were the case it would only happen in edge cases and would be considered a bug
[14:03] <blue_anna> binky, sure
[14:03] <ubuXubu> lea123 and the box appears and u check it off
[14:04] <furi> crashanddie_, here, i'll give you a thread i made on ubuntuforums, it pretty much says everything i've done so far
[14:04] <ikonia> lea123: have you actually read the ubuntu install guide at all ?
[14:04] <furi> crashanddie_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1616015
[14:04] <ubuXubu> lea123 are you in a pinch for hard drive space?
[14:04] <cast> quiescens: swap can slow things down, just as it can speed things up
[14:04] <lea123> ikonia : I am on 10.10 not 9.04 therefore there aren;t any guide at all
[14:05] <lea123> ubuxubu  :  NOPE not at all ..
[14:05] <cast> quiescens: it's very difficult to tell when an allocated page is going to be needed
[14:05] <ubuXubu> lea123 then i would do 4gb swap! AND let them yell at me hehe
[14:05] <ikonia> lea123: the install guide is generic
[14:05] <ikonia> !install | lea123
[14:06] <ikonia> lea123: there is also a common problems URL in the message ubottu just posted
[14:06] <cast> there's also security considerations regarding writing what would other wise be violatile data, to disk
[14:06] <tsimpson> heiher: something like "ps -U username -u username ux" should work
[14:06] <kalib> Anyone using a Dell Vostro 3300? Just wanna know about your lspci what's their wireless chipset.
[14:06] <quiescens> there are cases where it could speed things up, but they tend not to happen too often in desktop use, but there should be very few cases where it will slow things down where the alternative would not have been to kill a random process
[14:06] <ikonia> kalib: what does it matter what theres is, yours is what interess you
[14:07] <tsimpson> heiher: actually, without the last 'x'
[14:07] <binky> blue_anna:  yea it's session related.  that's wild.  here's something else, i had to ssh in a new session to get it working, because my vnc new sessions don't reload access tables
[14:07] <kalib> ikonia, is because I'm thinking about buying a Vostro 3300. Wanna know if I'll have problems with it on Linux or not. That's why I wanna know. ;]
[14:07] <ikonia> kalib: contact the vendor then, and ask them
[14:07] <ubuXubu> lea123 noone knows how much memory they will need or what they might encounter in the future so ram x 2 is just an educated guess...swap will be used if you don't have enough ram
[14:08] <binky> blue_anna: i suppose because it's a child process as opposed to being parent.  that's my only guess...
[14:08] <squid> hi... im ubuntu newbie
[14:08] <squid> what is up????????????????
[14:08] <ikonia> !topic | squid
[14:08] <heiher> tsimpson: oh, no. some redhat linux /proc/<pid> permission is 0500, why?
[14:08] <blue_anna> binky, makes sense
[14:08] <joe_85> anyone know a good channel for hardware?
[14:09] <ikonia> joe_85: ##hardware
[14:09] <lea123> IKONIA : Where is the swap file partion mentioned on the Install guide ??
[14:09] <binky> blue_anna: so anyway, cool! thanks for helping me crack the nut! :D
[14:09] <ikonia> lea123: I don't know - read it, see
[14:09] <joe_85> ikonia, I was missing the extra hash mark. thanx
[14:09] <blue_anna> de nad
[14:09] <blue_anna> nada
[14:09] <cast> binky: as mentioned before, "newgrp group" is handy..:)
[14:09] <lea123> IKONIA : And I thought you are thorough with the guide .. :)
[14:10] <furi> crashanddie_, apparently, ALL of the link stuff has the :http after it, because even trying apt-get update returns millions of those "wicked happenings".
[14:10] <blue_anna> please help me solve this - since I installed links2, links from applications like empathy dont open in firefox. sometimes, like from pidgin, it uses links2, but others, like with empathy, it gives me an error
[14:10] <binky> cast: yea, that wasn't the issue, i had newgrp already done with, it was all session related as to why the access was not being allowed.
[14:10] <ikonia> lea123: I don't need to read the guide in detail to install, however I know it explains the basics and a walk through, so it's certainly worth you reading as you appear to be asking people what to press for each step
[14:10] <tsimpson> heiher: I don't know, you'd have to ask in redhat support
[14:10] <heiher> tsimpson: thank you very much!
[14:10] <binky> cast: i've not seen that before when changing access commands for any level did not take immediate effect.
[14:10] <lea123> IKONIA : Well I will exclude you - and you can exclude me ...
[14:11] <quiescens> binky: a user's group list is set when they log in, and usually won't be updated
[14:11] <ikonia> lea123: , no, I'm actually tying to help you, if you need this level of hand holding just to install, it's certainly worth reading/skimming the guide to understand the basics
[14:11] <ubuXubu> lea123 when i was doing the partitons in ubuntu the swap appeared durirng that time and once it even reminded me i missed it, one other time i forgot it altogether and i noticed later ubuntu allocated 653 mb for me and its all ok
[14:11] <ikonia> lea123: on the install guide page there is even a video that walks you through an example install
[14:12] <binky> quiescens: yea i've learned that now. :)  was a hair pulling experience hehe
[14:12] <ikonia> lea123: there is also an excellent screen shor driven install guide
[14:13] <lea123> IKONIA : I am trying my level best to know things. Sure you do have a perspective of hand holding but it may not entirely be correct...  Please send me the screen shot driven guide
[14:13] <ikonia> lea123: I've already sent you the url via ubottu
[14:13] <ikonia> lea123: it has an install walk through with helpful links, a troubleshooting set of links, a video install as an example and some screen shot drive install notes
[14:13] <jubei> guys I'm trying to enable the text installation by pressing ESC and choosing it from the menu that comes up but it goes back to the GUI install. any body know anything about i?
[14:13] <binky> now the next quest, to find the service i have to restart so i don't have to renew session like that....
[14:14] <jrib> jubei: what version of ubuntu is this?
[14:14] <binky> er sorry, in unix speak, daemon
[14:14] <lea123> IKONIA : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Maverick#Installing_Ubuntu this one certainly doesn't
[14:14] <ikonia> lea123: that's not the one I sent you, and that's not from an official site
[14:14] <ubuXubu> lea123 you are like me , you do not want to move on until you have answers that not only are totaly correct, but make sence to you personally....hehe
[14:14] <ikonia> !install | lea123
[14:15] <jubei> jrib: i think it's uuhmm... meerkat
[14:15] <Twiggy|worx> hey I am trying to setup Hamachi on ubuntu 10.04 and am having some issues.  I have it where I can connect and it makes a relayed tunnel, but I cannot ping any computers nore can they ping me.  I have set my route, but it changes back to the wrong route.  Why does it change back?
[14:15] <jrib> !version | jubei
[14:15] <jubei> jrib: I have a cd without a label so I'm not exactly sure if it's meerkat or the previous one
[14:15] <jrib> jubei: anyway, what do you mean by "text installation"?  Why?
[14:16] <jubei> jrib: trying to install in a very old laptop, which has only 256 ram
[14:16] <jrib> jubei: use the minimal install cd since you probably don't want full blown gnome on there anyway
[14:16] <jubei> as far as I know ubuntu had a text-install wizard
[14:16] <ikonia> lea123: you may also find this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[14:16] <jrib> !minimal | jubei
[14:16] <DJones> jubei: You may be better trying xubuntu which has a lower hardware requirement
[14:16] <jubei> ok i'll try the minimal then, thanks!
[14:17] <jrib> jubei: note minimal means you get basically nothing and need to add on what you want (no gui to start)
[14:17] <jubei> anyway, despite that .Didn't ubuntu have a non-graphical installation wizard? I'm pretty sure it did. in the main cd
[14:17] <DJones> jubei: The alternate install cd uses a classic text mode installer if that helps
[14:17] <jubei> DJones: kk thank you
[14:17] <duckx0r> I've got a small problem here. I have multiple users that do not have passwords, but when I log in to that user and then switch to another session (i.e. ctrl-alt-F8) and then come back a few min later it prompts me for a password and nothing works. How can I make it so that it never prompts for the password?
[14:18] <Twiggy|worx> anybody know anything about routing?
[14:18] <Twiggy|worx> more specifically why if I change a route it changes back
[14:19] <lea123> IKONIA : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Boot_from_a_Live_CD
[14:19] <lea123> IKONIA : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Boot_from_a_Live_CD This doesn't have any graphics and I am installing it through a live CD and not GPART
[14:19] <jrib> duckx0r: how did you create a user without a password?
[14:20] <heartinfei> hi
[14:20] <ubuXubu> lia123 if you are down to he swap aprt lets go!
[14:20] <heartinfei> any one
[14:20] <heartinfei> ?
[14:20] <ubuXubu> part*
[14:20] <duckx0r> jrib `passwd -d {username}`
[14:20] <lea123> IKONIA : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall  - An update for you it only has the screen shots for 9.04
[14:20] <heartinfei> Who is an android developer?
[14:20] <jrib> duckx0r: ah well don't know how to tell the user switcher not to ask for a pw in that case
[14:21] <jrib> !ot | heartinfei
[14:21] <heartinfei> ?
[14:21] <duckx0r> jrib, do you know how to tell it not to ask for a pw if there is one set?
[14:22] <macabre> ola, how would i go about mounting a nas?
[14:22] <lea123> ubuxubu  :  Sorry I got lost in a wasteful discussion.. I went back I could find the SWAP file partion for the life of me. I am not using GPART as you know I am on the live CD
[14:22] <jrib> duckx0r: I think I remember an option in the gui to have it never ask for a password, but I am not sure
[14:23] <duckx0r> jrib, that's only on login in the gdm
[14:23] <jrib> duckx0r: you may be right
[14:23] <blue_anna> please help me solve this - since I installed links2, links from applications like empathy dont open in firefox. sometimes, like from pidgin, it uses links2, but others, like with empathy, it gives me an error
[14:23] <ubuXubu> lia123 the whole swap thing is no biggie
[14:23] <jbwiv__> guys, two questions: 1. what is the sound system Ubuntu uses these days, and 2. what is the modern day equivalent of /dev/dsp?
[14:24] <ubuXubu> lia123 i once missed it and eneded up with 653 mb swap
[14:24] <ubuXubu> lia123 u have plenty of ram for ubuntu
[14:24] <lea123> ubuxubu  :  I think I got it..
[14:24] <ubuXubu> check it off
[14:24] <ubuXubu> and choose the size u want
[14:25] <ubuXubu> lea123 thats how ir present ed itself to me in lucid
[14:25] <JackStoner> i cant open some .jpg files...i get an error interpreting file... can anyone help?
[14:25] <lea123> ubuxubu : I need to use the ADD button twice to create 2 partions RIGHT ??
[14:25] <venilsurya> I'm trying to install ie8 on wine. The installer finishes with no errors, but i can't find the program in the wine menus. What to do?
[14:26] <ubuXubu> just make a swap
[14:26] <grendal_prime> is there a desktop background app that will pull from my gallery2 server?
[14:26] <ubuXubu> make a 1, 2, 3 or 4 gb swap your choice
[14:26] <grendal_prime> i cant find one for linux only windows...wich leads me to believe its built in or something and im just not seeing it
[14:27] <ubuXubu> not a big deal
[14:27] <Gerwin> What exactly do I need to be able to playback h264 encoded files? I got every library needed according to the documentation, and tried about 8 different players, most of them didn't even play the files, and the ones that did were only playing one frame every 10 seconds or so.
[14:27] <Twiggy|worx> I take it that nobody in here is friendly with network routes?
[14:27] <JackStoner> i cant open some .jpg files...i get an error interpreting file... can anyone help?
[14:28] <ubuXubu> lia123 if i recall, i checked off the box for swap and choose a size and a mount and boom done
[14:28] <grendal_prime> Twiggy|worx, what does that mean?
[14:29] <JoeMaverickSett> should / partition be larger than /home if i were to partition that way? or the other way round?
[14:29] <blue_anna> -- since I installed links2, links from applications like empathy dont open in firefox. sometimes, like from pidgin, it uses links2, but others, like with empathy, it gives me an error
[14:29] <Twiggy|worx> well I have asked twice, I changed a route to get Hamachi to work(which it doesnt yet) but after a few minutes the route changes back
[14:29] <ubuXubu> lia123 as i said ubuntu will make you go back if you skipped s step
[14:29] <ubuXubu> hats off to the buntu team!
[14:30] <ubuXubu> brb,,,
[14:30]  * aeon-ltd throws hat up
[14:30] <grendal_prime> Twiggy|worx, well i do know that with most linux distros it will not be a persistant route...if you adding one anyway.  you will need to put that into a init.d file or rc.local so it will get applied when the machine boots
[14:30] <jbwiv__> guys, two questions: 1. what is the sound system Ubuntu uses these days, and 2. what is the modern day equivalent of /dev/dsp?
[14:30] <grendal_prime> are you talking about the default route?
[14:31] <squid> do anyone how to install x development for WINE?
[14:31] <Twiggy|worx> grendal_prime, it changes back after a few minutes by itsself with no reboot.   Its the default route for an adapter ham0 which is for the virtual lan hamachi makes
[14:32] <ubuXubu> k
[14:33] <duckx0r> where are the settings from gconf-editor typically stored?
[14:33] <samtuke> is it possible to use apt-get install to install applications to an external HDD? I'm out of space on root partition...
[14:33] <grendal_prime> well there is probably something built into networkmanager (this is if i have to guess) that persistantly LOOKS for a workable route and does that by looking for dhcp servers and reconfigureing the network to use them.
[14:33] <manhunter> which package is responsible for this? click any partition from file manager and it's mounted
[14:33] <ikonia> lea123: the install routine is the same
[14:34] <grendal_prime> i Know i can move all over town with my netbook..and laptop and they always find some way of getting out to the internet. That was the config out of the box.
[14:34] <Poliu> irc.abjects.net
[14:34] <ikonia> lea123: and the principals of what that guide is expaining are identical and very useful
[14:34] <duckx0r>   samtuke, have you tried clearing your apt cache?
[14:34] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: Sounds like Hamachi is either losing connectivity to the remote endpoint, or it's buggy.  It would stand to reason that the routing table would be dynamically updated upon change of VPN connection status.  Have you looked into OpenVPN?
[14:35] <grendal_prime> so ya if you set the interfaces to have a static ip ...do not use dhcp and disable roaming mode you will probably get better results for a test enviroment.
[14:35] <grendal_prime> all of that is a guess Twiggy|worx but something to look into none the less
[14:35] <Twiggy|worx> rob_p, my isp doesnt allow any inbound connections, so I need something that makes an empty connection
[14:35] <Twiggy|worx> My hamachi ip is static
[14:35] <Xenom0rph> salve ho installato backtrack :)
[14:35] <Xenom0rph> xD
[14:35] <samtuke> duckx0r: no, but I'm going to continually run out of space as / is only 500 meg (plug computer), so it would be useful to know how to install elsewhere
[14:36] <ubuXubu> lia123 u can do it!
[14:36] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: That's unfortunate!
[14:36] <duckx0r> samtuke, you can mount some of the directories in / to another hard drive, but you can't install to another location
[14:36] <venilsurya> I'm trying to install ie8 on wine. The installer finishes with no errors, but i can't find the program in the wine menus. What to do?
[14:37] <jrib> !appdb | venilsurya
[14:37] <Twiggy|worx> yes very, the thing is, the hamachi on my netbook set itsself up fine, and I tried on another laptop, One computer was on my network and the other was tethered.  I could connect to them
[14:37] <jrib> venilsurya: check appdb, #winehq for more help
[14:37] <samtuke> venilsurya: find the exe and execute manually. then create a link
[14:37] <Twiggy|worx> So I kinow it has to be my ubuntu box causing the issues
[14:38] <akagi201> hi
[14:38] <akagi201> 有人吗
[14:38] <venilsurya> samtuke: I can find the exe manually
[14:38] <venilsurya> I can't find the exe manually
[14:39] <sinai> 那么多人，还问
[14:39] <samtuke> venilsurya: so look harder. it'll be in the virtual drive c file which is located in .wine in your home dir usually
[14:39] <samtuke> or you can use locate on cli to search for the exe
[14:39] <venilsurya> samtuke: Yes, I looked there
[14:39] <venilsurya> samtuke: I'll try that
[14:40] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: Well, unfortunately I don't have any practical experience with Hamachi so I can only guess what may be going on with it.  I use OpenVPN for all my VPNs and it just works.  But I also have the servers on static/unblocked/unfiltered IPs.
[14:40] <samtuke> well, it must be in there if it installed
[14:40] <noob-tux> why do i get gpg error everytime i'll updates? reading on some threads regarding to get rid of this gpg error thing helps.....but only for 1 day....prior to the next day on updating....error comes back gpg badsig.....it's so annoying.... is there a way to get rid of this gpg error for good?
[14:41] <ubuXubu> lia123 has fallen into the black hole, the 4th dimension....the ubuntu swap partition eeeeeek!
[14:41] <samtuke> noob-tux: because you havent imported the key which signs your packages
[14:41] <Twiggy|worx> does openvpn have a autojoin feature?
[14:41] <rigved> hi everyone
[14:41] <DaneM> Hello, everybody.  I've recently upgraded from 9.10 (amd64) to 10.04 and immediately after to 10.10.  I got this error a lot in the terminal output, and I don't know what it is:
[14:41] <blue_anna> -- since I installed links2, links from applications like empathy dont open in firefox. sometimes, like from pidgin, it uses links2, but others, like with empathy, it gives me an error
[14:41] <DaneM> /usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache
[14:41] <samtuke> noob-tux: signing packages is important because otherwise the update server could be hijacked and send you bad packages.
[14:41] <noob-tux> samtuke: not imported? i just did it.... :P
[14:41] <DaneM> missing
[14:41] <Twiggy|worx> and does it do mesh, does it have a windows counterpart?
[14:41] <DaneM> anybody know what that's about?
[14:41] <samtuke> noob-tux: well if you imported all the keys correctly then you wouldnt get errors :P
[14:42] <rigved> is it possible to use 2 network connections simultaneously? like one wired and another mobile broadband...
[14:42] <blue_anna> rigved, sure, look up QoS
[14:42] <venilsurya> I've found the .exe. It returns an error message "Cannot find "www.winehq.org""
[14:42] <ubuXubu> DaneM, when u see those bazillion errors hit enter
[14:42] <samtuke> rigved: yes. but i dont know how
[14:42] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: Autojoin as in automatically connect to the server endpoint?  It meshes well with the ability to control client-to-client traffic.  Yes, there is a Windows client.
[14:42] <ubuXubu> it will just continue and ur good...prolly
[14:43] <Chalkie1983> Hi, i have a question, i have a dedi box in a data centre, its currently running crappy winblows, and i wanna change that to ubuntu, my only issue is that the DC is 487 miles away, can i install without being there and get it up and running so i can RDP in?
[14:43] <noob-tux> samtuke: not signing packages wouldnt make u updates....but getting updates and got gpg error on badsig thing...is a hell out of signing packages..... read forums :P
[14:43] <DaneM> ubuXubu: It was in the terminal output of the distribution upgrade window.  It didn't require me to do anything.  Do you know why they happened?
[14:43] <ubuXubu> no
[14:43] <ubuXubu> i dont
[14:44] <samtuke> venilsurya: thats odd. i dont know why ie8 wants to contact wine.
[14:44] <Twiggy|worx> rob_p, the idea I am thinkin is that if i made a server on my netbook and used a mesh type network, then had my home computer set to autojoin my netbook.  Would that work?
[14:44] <DaneM> ubuXubu: ok.  Thanks anyway.  Do you know if they're important?
[14:44] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: I don't see why not.
[14:44] <blue_anna> what happened to all the 105 key keyboards? there used to be a million of them
[14:44] <Twiggy|worx> I just need to access the one computer
[14:44] <Sir_Konrad> Twiggy|worx, making a server out of netbook, let alone on a home network, is never a good idea. :\
[14:44] <venilsurya> samtuke: I  tried to install it on my virtualbox xp system and its saying that cryptographic settings are not ok
[14:45] <ubuXubu> DaneM, if you are referring to all thosse error messages thst occur at the very end...its more or less a bug in my opinion and was meaningless in my case
[14:45] <ubuXubu> i hit entered, it finshed up and i moved on
[14:45] <DaneM> ubuXubu: thanks.
[14:45] <rigved> blue_anna: do you mean Quality of Service? is there a package called QoS?
[14:45] <ubuXubu> my whole screen said error
[14:45] <nha> Sir_Konrad: care to explain why?
[14:45] <rob_p> Sir_Konrad: Twiggy|worx: True but OpenVPN is pretty lightweight and can run comfortably on minimal hardware.  There's even a OpenWRT port for Linksys routers!
[14:45] <ubuXubu> hehe
[14:46] <DaneM> ubuXubu: oh, wow.  that sounds a little scarier...
[14:46] <Twiggy|worx> Sir_Konrad, All I really want to do is access my mythweb, but every inbound port is blocked so I was going to use hamachi to get into my networ, but that seems to not be workign also.  Which is why I thought about try this after what rob_p suggested
[14:46] <ubuXubu> danem the folks at ubuntu like to keep our attention
[14:46] <Sir_Konrad> Twiggy|worx, oh ok. :D
[14:46] <blue_anna> rigved, I mean that yea. there is no package, its a means of configuring your computer to change its routing based on netowrk usage conditions
[14:46] <DaneM> lol
[14:46] <gamerpro2000> Hey guys, does anybody know how to force X Server to try again after it encounters a segmentation fault?
[14:46] <Sir_Konrad> nha, try setting up a web server to get ton of hits a day and you'll figure it out. ;)
[14:46] <ubuXubu> interesting concept huh danem
[14:47] <DaneM> ubuxubu: heh yeah.  Here's hoping it won't cause problems later...
[14:47] <blue_anna> gamerpro2000, it should automatically start again as long as it was started as a service
[14:47] <nha> Sir_Konrad: well duh, they're not very powerful, but if you have a spare one lying around for some low-power, but always-on tasks, why the hell not?
[14:47] <blue_anna> I would think
[14:47] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: If your ISP blocks all inbound connections, you will have to establish a connection to some external server and then you will have to connect to the same external server with your roaming client.
[14:47] <rigved> blue_anna: i'm new to this. can you tell me how to do this configuration or if can give me a guide which specifies this...
[14:47] <ubuXubu> DaneM i found an explanation for it on google but i cant honeslty recall wut they said
[14:47] <blue_anna> hmm
[14:47] <blue_anna> !qos
[14:48] <Sir_Konrad> nha, yeah I didn't see what Twiggy|worx was setting up his server for. But yeah, small stuff is ok.
[14:48] <gamerpro2000> blue_anna, it does not because it gets a signal 11 segmentation fault.  It just dies there.  I need to figure out how to get it to try again until it succeeds.
[14:48] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: OpenVPN will work just fine for that sort of thing.  I do it all the time.
[14:48] <ubuXubu> DaneM it was like something they just sorta let it ride
[14:48] <DaneM> ubuXubu: I did a google search but couldn't find anything useful.  Trying another search string.
[14:48] <gamerpro2000> blue_anna, I'm trying to come up with a workaround for a bug until its fixed
[14:48] <Twiggy|worx> okay I will try that.
[14:48] <DaneM> ubuXubu: nodnod
[14:48] <rigved> blue_anna: never mind. i found some links on google. thanx a lot!
[14:48] <ubuXubu> DaneM i am  not 100percent your errors thing is mine exactly either
[14:49] <ubuXubu> but i had a bazillion of em
[14:49] <ubuXubu> right at the end
[14:49] <Chalkie1983> can someone help me setup ubuntu over the net when the target machine is currently running winblows?
[14:49] <ubuXubu> repeats if i recall
[14:49] <DaneM> ubuXubu: ok.  I got them sporadically throughout going from 9.10 to 10.04, and then from 10.04 to 10.10.  I'll let you know if I find anything on them.
[14:50] <blue_anna> -- since I installed links2, links from applications like empathy dont open in firefox. sometimes, like from pidgin, it uses links2, but others, like with empathy, it gives me an error
[14:50] <ubuXubu> and one some of my machines it hung on the upgrades and crashed my install
[14:50] <ubuXubu> the ones that i clean installed 10.04 had the massive error thing at the end
[14:51] <DaneM> ubuXubu: eek!  Did you have any other (related) problems?
[14:51] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: Just as a point of interest, I force ALL my home Internet traffic through a VPN to one of my servers in the USA.  I live in an area of the world where privacy is not necessarily protected and I don't trust my DSL provider/phone company.
[14:51] <lea123> ubuxubu : I went back all the way to make sense .. I think I need to first specify the swap file right thats by creating a partion and then specify the reamaing as another partion
[14:51] <Chalkie1983> i guess not.
[14:52] <ubuXubu> well the ones that hung on the upgrade i had to do a clean install and then no prob but as i say it did shoe a gazillion errors at the very end but they run great
[14:52] <ahtmly2k> anybody know an audicity channel..? there's no file menu bar in my audacity window.. can anyone help me?
[14:52] <DaneM> ubuXubu: Here's a web page I found with a bug report and a possible solution.  Doesn't explain why, though.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdk-pixbuf/+bug/619003
[14:53] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: ...and since my home Internet connection is VPN'd in to my server, when I connect from other locations while traveling with my laptop, I can access the home computers just fine.
[14:53] <ubuXubu> lea123 so u undid all ur work from before?
[14:54] <blue_anna> has anyone tried to use those ipad bluetooth keyboards with their computer?
[14:54] <lea123> ubuxubu : Yeah just trying to make sense
[14:54] <Roasted_> Is there no practical way (except via terminal) to effectively chown -R of an entire folder's contents?
[14:54] <ubuXubu>  i know that feeling but u had it lia123
[14:55] <ubuXubu> the swap is not a big issue at all
[14:55] <aeon-ltd> !tab | ubuXubu
[14:55] <noob-tux> how to remove torproject on my ubuntu? i do remember i installed one but don't know where it goes and i do remember too that i havent remove it yet anyone? thanx
[14:55] <NativeAngels> hello i am using lubuntu can you tell me how to get a bash prompt from the desktop
[14:55] <aeon-ltd> NativeAngels: ctrl-alt-Fn
[14:55] <Twiggy|worx> rob_p, awesome so it seems to be a mesh network so that should work
[14:55] <NativeAngels> there is no option in the menu
[14:55] <aeon-ltd> NativeAngels: oh you mean a virtual terminal....
[14:55] <lea123> But right now on the step where i need to make the swap file partition don't we have to always give the location of the new partion from the end ?
[14:56] <grendal_prime> thsi seems like such a simple thing...a wget script and some bash could handle it im suprised this has not beeen done...actually there is a java script that aready does the downloaing part.  Hmm is there a desktop app that allows you to run a script as your wallpaper?
[14:56] <NativeAngels> no a terminal
[14:56] <noob-tux> how to remove torproject on my ubuntu? i do remember i installed one but don't know where it goes and i do remember too that i havent remove it yet anyone? thanx
[14:56] <aeon-ltd> NativeAngels: don't you have a terminal installed? xterm/aterm/urxvt/sakura etc
[14:56] <NativeAngels> i have installed the alternate version
[14:56] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: Yes.  Works just fine as long as you configure it to allow client-to-client traffic at the server.
[14:56] <ubuXubu> lea123, u will see, this time a box will be there to check off for the swap
[14:56] <aeon-ltd> !patience | noob-tux
[14:56] <NativeAngels> but for some reason all i have in the menu is run and logout
[14:57] <NativeAngels> i have tried ctrl alt and function
[14:57] <Twiggy|worx> okay, will I have to setup stuff with the router on what will be the "client side"  For reference the other side will be server/client
[14:57] <aeon-ltd> NativeAngels: its not function its F1/2/3/4/etc
[14:57] <ubuXubu> DaneM did u check the cd for errors before u installed?
[14:57] <lea123> ubuxubu yes but what should i choose as the location for the new partion - BEGINING or END?
[14:58] <ubuXubu> eh end
[14:58] <NativeAngels> no not working at all
[14:58] <lea123> Use it as SWAP AREA RIGHT from the drop down
[14:58] <DaneM> ubuXubu: I did an Internet upgrade, and I did check the CD for errors when I did the original 9.10 install (a long time ago)
[14:58] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: Other benefits of having my home network connected full-time to the VPN include having access to things like Netflix and other region-specific services.
[14:58] <ubuXubu> oh ok danem
[14:58] <ubuXubu> got lost for a sec
[14:59] <lea123> ubuxubu Should I Use it as SWAP AREA RIGHT from the drop down
[14:59] <DaneM> ubuXubu: ok
[14:59] <aeon-ltd> NativeAngels: crtl-alt-f1, ctrl-alt-f2, if this is a laptop you need fn-ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-fn-f1
[14:59] <ubuXubu> yeah thats ok lea123
[14:59] <ubuXubu> just check it off
[14:59] <ubuXubu> make it the size u like
[14:59] <lea123> I am planning 2 GB
[14:59] <Vogg> can any1 help me get an ubuntu IRC client working (i am here via windows) ?
[14:59] <ubuXubu> good one lea123
[15:00] <lee__> !anyone | Vogg
[15:00] <lee__> Vogg:   what client?
[15:00] <Twiggy|worx> rob_p, too bad there wasnt like a online free vpn hub kinda like hamachi but that allowed you to use your own client
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> Vogg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:00] <noob-tux> how to remove torproject on my ubuntu? i do remember i installed one but don't know where it goes and i do remember too that i havent remove it yet anyone? thanx
[15:00] <ubuXubu> lea123 i just recall it presenting itself to me after i did my other partition for buntu
[15:00] <Vogg> to all: any client ..
[15:00] <DaneM> Thanks for the help.  Seeya.
[15:00] <lee__> Vogg:    you haven't decided yet?
[15:00] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: Well, your home located box would be a client and so would your laptop or other "remote" box.  The server would be a box located somewhere on the 'Net on an accessible IP.
[15:01] <Vogg> the client that comes with 10.04 does not actually work out of the box
[15:01] <lee__> Vogg:  irssi, command based client
[15:01] <lea123> ubuxubu Not really when you are using the advanced option :) no offence
[15:01] <lee__> Vogg:    or xchat
[15:01] <sharkbird> Does anyone know of a multihead video card that supports three monitors and works well with ubuntu?  Years ago I was able to set this up on debian using two video cards, but that method does not seem to work with recent X servers.
[15:02] <ubuXubu> the best offence is a good defense!
[15:02] <ubuXubu> hehe
[15:02] <sresu> How to find the source code of any open source application via CLI?
[15:02] <lea123> ubuxubu :)
[15:02] <ubuXubu> lea123 its like here swap me!
[15:02] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: You might look into VPS hosting services.  I bet you could get something for pretty cheap that you could load up with OpenVPN.
[15:02] <Twiggy|worx> rob_p, I understood that, but I dont have a box on the internet anywhere
[15:02] <aeon-ltd> sresu: why not just browse and dl the source code?
[15:02] <ubuXubu> check me off do me make me ur swap
[15:03] <ubuXubu> swap me or drop me
[15:03] <Pici> sresu: apt-get source packagename
[15:03] <noob-tux> how to remove torproject on my ubuntu? i do remember i installed one but don't know where it goes and i do remember too that i havent remove it yet anyone? thanx
[15:03] <lea123> ubuxubu : infact i gave 2 it counted 2mb I think i need to put it as 1024*2 = 2048
[15:03] <lee__> noob-tux:   sudo apt-get remove --purge tor
[15:03] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: I have my own physical servers at a data center but OpenVPN can run quite happily on a virtual machine on some provider's service.
[15:03] <ubuXubu> 2gb
[15:04] <ubuXubu> or 2048
[15:04] <Vogg> lee__; i tried to install smuxi but the session just stopped
[15:04] <ubuXubu> its 6 to 1...half dozen to the other lea123
[15:04] <lee__> !smuxi
[15:04] <ubuXubu> just stick it to that swap will ya
[15:04] <Vogg> !smuxi
[15:05] <lee__> Vogg:   why not try xchat or irssi instead,  both are very popular
[15:05] <Vogg> lol
[15:05] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> Twiggy|worx: i'm running openvpn inside a cheap vps and does its job just fine
[15:05] <grendal_prime> Twiggy|worx, are you trying to set up some sort of vpn...(im sorry i was vaguly monitoring and missed your previouse posts)
[15:05] <Vogg> lee__; is xchat installed from CD
[15:05] <Twiggy|worx> rob_p, hmm well for the time being, you did say that it shouldnt have an issue with connecting to my netbook client/server.  I didnt even think,  dynamic ip's will mess this up wont they?
[15:05] <lee__> Vogg:  o_0
[15:05] <lee__> Vogg:  you do have access to a command line don't you?
[15:05] <ubuXubu> s.w.a.p.
[15:06] <lea123> ubuxubu : infact I think I am getting there .
[15:06] <lea123> :
[15:06] <sresu> Pici: I need the coding of paricular application. Like a stable snapshot of their version control system  of the app than the latest source code
[15:06] <lea123> :)
[15:06] <ubuXubu> i know u are lea123 i feel it
[15:06] <Vogg> lee__; i am admin
[15:06] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: Well, without a static IP, you'll need to use some sort of dynamic DNS service.
[15:06] <sresu> then*
[15:06] <lee__> Vogg:  sudo apt-get install xchat
[15:06] <grendal_prime> ya i was just going to say..openvpn scales very well from a single tunnell to  hell we have 600 boxes clustered
[15:06] <Twiggy|worx> grendal_prime, Well I just want access to my mythweb page.  My isp doesnt allow any inbound connections so I am trying to find a way around it, hamachi if it worked woudl be perfect
[15:06] <lee__> Vogg:   and then   xchat &
[15:06] <blue_anna> -- since I installed links2, links from applications like empathy dont open in firefox. sometimes, like from pidgin, it uses links2, but others, like with empathy, it gives me an error
[15:06] <Vogg> lee__; i tried that for smuxi .. it did not work ..
[15:07] <Twiggy|worx> the vpn issue seems like it will really start to suck.  I know its not hard to seup ddns but the only reason to do this is remote recording schedules
[15:07] <lee__> Vogg:    am I talking about smuxi?  or am i talking about xchat?
[15:07]  * ubuXubu sences a new lea123...
[15:07] <Pici> sresu: Then you need to find that then.  There isn't one command that get that for you.  You may be able to use the 'homepage' field from apt-cache show packagename to help you find where they may store that though.
[15:07] <grendal_prime> hmm...ya have that box connect to a box on the outside with a vpn ..then you can hit box b and ...well depends on what you need to do .but i would start with something reliable on the outside and a vpn to that.
[15:07] <lee__> Vogg:   try paying attention to what i'm saying you might get somewhere... you said ANY irc client.. i gave you one
[15:07] <lea123> ubuxubu : Why has SDA3 disappeared ? it now shows sd6 ext3 and sda5 linux-swap
[15:07] <grendal_prime> kinda werid restriction
[15:08] <ubuXubu> dunno
[15:08] <sresu> Pici: Being open source it should be easily available though
[15:08] <Vogg> lee__; hey .. ubuntu has been a total dead loss so far
[15:08] <Twiggy|worx> grendal_prime, I have no outside box though.  also the isp is virgin mobile broadband 2 go
[15:08] <girlcar> help
[15:08] <lee__> Vogg:    not for me bud
[15:08] <ikonia> lea123: sda3 was probably your extended partition
[15:08] <girlcar> so hardly
[15:08] <Pici> sresu: It is available, we just don't store that information.
[15:08] <ikonia> lea123: or sda4 was, so it's children partitions go bellow it eg: sda5 and 6
[15:09] <Vogg> lee__; i will try but i have to reboot etc
[15:09] <Twiggy|worx> The MiFi supports vpn passthrough, but I assume that means that I can connnect to a vpn from the virgin mobile mifi not host?
[15:09] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: You don't have a mother/sister/brother/aunt, etc. with an Internet connection that would allow you to hang a small Linux box on their connection?
[15:09] <Pici> sresu: The source that the package that is in Ubuntu is available with 'apt-get source', thats what matters.
[15:09] <evdvelde> hi all! is btrfs stable enough for everyday use? have to reinstall a pc and wonder if i should try it or stick to ext4
[15:09] <girlcar> who know how to install vlc+ffmpeg
[15:09] <sangeeth> I want to add proxy settings to WGET, how to do that
[15:10] <sresu> Pici: But that doesn't give the code. Is it?
[15:10] <Twiggy|worx> rob_p, I really dont want to go that route.  They arnt really close enough to be trying that
[15:10] <girlcar> how to register GAE,i can
[15:10] <moke99> blah, anyone here which knows which irc server linux mint chan is on? (just in case someone here is also there i mean :))
[15:10] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> Twiggy|worx: i'm paying appr. EUR 4 per month for a VPS that runs openvpn.
[15:10] <ikonia> moke99: read their website
[15:11] <mbeierl> evdvelde: according to https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page: While Btrfs is stable on a stable machine, it is currently possible to  corrupt a filesystem irrecoverably if your machine crashes
[15:11] <Pici> sresu: apt-get source bash will download the source that was used to build the bash binary package that exists in the repositores.
[15:11] <girlcar> have anyone say chinese.
[15:11] <moke99> I did but it says irc.spotchat.rog but erm doesnt show up here in xchat :/
[15:11] <girlcar> 有说中国话的吗？
[15:11] <Twiggy|worx> I wish hamachi wasnt such a fringe thing.  It seems really cool if it worked for me.
[15:11] <grendal_prime> Twiggy|worx, ooo..ya see i have a site that uses a mobil broadband connection. I have to help those people alot so i have them vpn to my server and then i can vnc to their desktop through thtat. Ya you have to have something on the outside.  Maybe you could look into a hosted vm somewhere. ...cheep for like 10 bucks a moth or something.
[15:11] <maco> !cn | girlcar
[15:11] <ikonia> moke99: you need to add it
[15:11] <grendal_prime> move it to the cloud!! Twiggy|worx!!!
[15:11] <girlcar> #ubuntu-cn
[15:11] <Twiggy|worx> ohh jeeze... cloud yayyyy
[15:12] <sresu> sresu: apt-get source will grab the ubuntu modified source files of the package, it will only get the source needed to build the version in the repos though not nessorly the latest and wont get stuff that isent in the repos
[15:12] <moke99> its been too long since i rememebred irc cmds well but thanks .. h thank you.. am trying but lol iam failing but sure, ill just google it, cheers mate :)
[15:12] <sresu> Pici^^
[15:12] <Pici> sresu: Thats correct.
[15:12] <strouthos> Is it possible to rescue Grub using the Ubuntu Live CD (like it can be done with the Alternative/Install CD)?
[15:12] <rob_p> Twiggy|worx: Well, perhaps VPS is the way to go then. Unfortunately, it won't be free and you might not be able to justify the cost if you only use it for what you mentioned.  But if you had other reasons to have regular access to your home network from remote locations, it might be worth considering.  Anyway, good luck with it.
[15:13] <evdvelde> mbeierl: that is not so good, since power failure is always possible or so :-) so perhaps not the best option yet?
[15:13] <dobak> hi all
[15:13] <Twiggy|worx> rob_p, thanks for helping me with my options.  I think I will keep trying with hamachi, being that it works with a windows computer on my network, it has to be a setting thats not right
[15:13] <mbeierl> evdvelde: you got it.  ext4 is still the better all-around option
[15:14] <strouthos> Or: Grub isn't working and at the time it seems quite difficult to fix it. How can I boot into my Ubuntu installation using the Live CD?
[15:15] <przemek_> hi strouthos
[15:16] <testim> Hi I connected to a Wifi point that has a password, now the laptop connects automaticlly, Where is the password saved ?
[15:16] <strouthos> hi przemek_. Can you help me? Ḯ've had this problem for two days now.
[15:16] <przemek_> can you boot live cd?
[15:16] <lee__> is there a cli based music player?  when i run the command it pipes right out to the speakers without needing to open a new window?
[15:16] <strouthos> Yes.
[15:16] <shebang_wafflesa> yeah, try mplayer. i'm using it now
[15:17] <lee__> shebang_wafflesa:   when i run mplayer it opens mplayer... i'm talking about playing right from cli without needing to open a window
[15:17] <przemek_> do it and find devices where your regular linux is
[15:17] <moke99> thanks btw ikonia, i just wnated mint on a flash disk and having some issues ... got my ubuntu hereon the internal.. but ya.. thumbs up
[15:17] <noob-tux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/530744/ <--- thanx
[15:17] <shebang_wafflesa> umm- ithink there's a swtich that'l open it with no GUI, hold on
[15:18] <jrib> lee__: mplayer is such a thing.  So is cmus, so is mpd, so are many more :)
[15:18] <FlintWestWood1> test
[15:18] <strouthos> przemek_: ... yes, I can access the regular hard drives. But https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows doesn't work
[15:18] <lee__> how do i view all mounted drive locations?
[15:18] <RichiH> mount
[15:19] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:19] <shebang_wafflesa> Try typing mplayer-nogui
[15:19] <ubuXubu> lea123, oh lea123 where art thou
[15:19] <lee__> thinking something more practical... skipping all the ones i don't need to see
[15:19] <przemek_> wait there was full description of grub2 over google
[15:20] <przemek_> onlty I cant find it now
[15:20] <echo310infantry> lee use disk utility
[15:20] <shebang_wafflesa> if typing mplayer-nogui works and you find it inconvenient, you can try aliasing it
[15:20] <rigved> i had installed google chrome via a .deb package downloaded from the google website. now i want to uninstall it and install chromium (open source). i tried to uninstall via software but the uninstall was incomplete. will synaptic be able to uninstall google chrome completely?
[15:20] <lee__> shebang_wafflesa:   negative
[15:20] <lea123> ubuxubu : inching towards the victory line i suppose .. but tensed though
[15:20] <rob_p> lee__: df -h
[15:20] <ubuXubu> iknow
[15:20] <echo310infantry> rigved it should
[15:20] <lee__> echo310infantry:  from cli
[15:20] <shebang_wafflesa> i think there's a package claaed mplayer no-gui, try installing it
[15:20] <lee__> df -h
[15:20] <echo310infantry> oh
[15:20] <lee__> oops :)
[15:20] <rigved> echo310infantry: ok. thanx
[15:21] <lee__> rob_p:  thanks
[15:21] <rob_p> lee__: welcme
[15:21] <ubuXubu> lea123 it hurts the 1st time lea123
[15:21] <noob-tux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/530744/ <--- thanx
[15:21] <panik__> jf you want to be the best with google chrome and become rich, back up your files, keep it lite, and reload the os
[15:21] <panik__> trust me
[15:22] <ikonia> noob-tux: what do you want us to do with that
[15:22] <lea123> ubuxubu : hope not for me else I will lose the faith :) cuz for me it second time..
[15:22] <przemek_> still there strouthos?
[15:22] <evdvelde> are there other users with btrfs experiences? is it faster? stable?
[15:22] <noob-tux> ikonia: that's the problem i got from updating :) i get rid of the gpg badsig error that's the only thing left....
[15:22] <ikonia> evdvelde: not stable at all
[15:22] <lee__> shebang_wafflesa:   negative
[15:22] <moke99> ubuXubu,  are you tellign princess Leia of the star wars abt how it is to be 'deflowered' Oo
[15:22] <ikonia> noob-tux: beccause that repo wont allow you to use it, so you need to remove it
[15:22] <evdvelde> ikonia: as in data losses?
[15:23] <ikonia> evdvelde: certainly, and overall instability
[15:23] <lee__> shebang_wafflesa:   but it is possible right... i don't see why you can't play music using cl as controller
[15:23] <evdvelde> okay... a no go for a non-testing system thus :)
[15:23] <ikonia> evdvelde: I'm enjoying playing with it, but it's nowhere near production ready in my view
[15:23] <ubuXubu> moke99 hehe
[15:23] <noob-tux> ikonia: how? i dont know where it went...so got no idea on that...mind to help?
[15:23] <lea123> ubuxubu : its over but I read somewhere its better to login to Windows vista a couple of time to reassure its space :)
[15:23] <moke99>  :)
[15:23] <ikonia> noob-tux: remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:23] <shebang_wafflesa> lee__: i thoughti heard mention that you have to launch it from xterm as opposed to gnome_terminal
[15:24] <ubuXubu> lea123 kk
[15:24] <noob-tux> thanx
[15:24] <ubuXubu> vista is ummm sensitive
[15:24] <lee__> shebang_wafflesa:  i'm using terminator
[15:24] <claude2> evdvelde: ive read that btrfs is still pretty slow at this point
[15:25] <shebang_wafflesa> lee__: do you know if there's an mplayer-nogui in the repo?
[15:25] <evdvelde> claude2: i have read phoronix tests that say it is quite fast, and very fast with compression enabled
[15:25] <lee__> shebang_wafflesa:   negative
[15:25] <SAngeli> Hi guys, I am geting an error when buring ubuntu iso files and have no clue how to solve it. This is what I get as error: http://img828.imageshack.us/f/isoerror.jpg/  what is that causes this error? Please anyone.  My OS is windows OS
[15:26] <shebang_wafflesa> lee__: maybe you have something in your .bashrc that aliases mplayer to gmplayer
[15:27] <lea123> ubuxubu : gosh my CD drive is grinding the ubuntu CD. something is wrong ..
[15:27] <x404x> what does external journaling mean ? does this create more security for a raid volume ?
[15:27] <x404x> im using jfas
[15:27] <x404x> jfs
[15:27] <echo310infantry> sangi sounds like ur drive and /or cd is screwed
[15:27] <cfedde> I managed to de-install python-zope and all the packages that go with it.  Is there an easy way to re-install that stuff?
[15:27] <shebang_wafflesa> x404: if i'm not mistaken, it should make it easier to recover from unlcean unounting and prevent data corruption
[15:27]  * ubuXubu prays...
[15:28] <lea123> ubuxubu : Thanks it stopped :)
 but if you look at the log it says illegal mode for this track
[15:28] <echo310infantry> hmm try a different program
[15:28] <ubuXubu> lea123 whew
 same with NERO
[15:28] <echo310infantry> but honestly i think its hardware related
[15:28] <x404x> what if the os drive goes dead and i have a mdadm soft array will all the parity data still be there ?
[15:29] <echo310infantry> can u burn non os images?
[15:29] <x404x> what option to recover this ?
[15:29] <x404x> i guess create overwrites it
[15:29] <SAngeli> Yes
[15:29] <rigved> echo310infantry: nope, it did not work. google chrome is still installed. i guess i keep both installed then...
[15:29] <SAngeli> echo310infantry, I burned music cds
[15:29] <ubuXubu> quit teasin me lea123
[15:29] <sresu> Pici: Hey, can I talk to you in private for a moment?
[15:29] <przemek_> hi everybody, is there any way to listen to cd in while watching tvtime? couse /dev/mixer in gone
[15:29] <shebang_wafflesa> x404: that's a good question. I would assume so, if the journal is kept on the external disks. If your writing to them, they should be journaling
[15:30] <strouthos2> Knowing this is a stupid question, who did just talk to strouthos (that's me)?
[15:30] <lea123> ubuxubu : Hey it just froze its a colorful screen of death i suppose
[15:30] <researcher1> how can I backup installed programs for re-installation on another PC which has no internet
[15:30] <echo310infantry> @rig oh well check the google wiki @sang re download the image
[15:30] <lea123> ubuxubu : nothings on my screen
[15:30]  * ubuXubu runs for the backdoor...
[15:31] <przemek_> strouthos2 that could be me
[15:31] <callaghan> Hello, is it possible to use Docky just as a Quicklaunch (only links to apps and folders) area without the launched applications in it?
[15:31] <ubuXubu> lea123 hope u were serious bout those recovery dvd's
[15:31] <echo310infantry> btw rig did u try uninstalling both chromeium and google chrome at the same time? it share a lot of files
[15:32] <mieke> hey, my mom works on ubuntu and wants to buy an ipad, how can I let those 2 work togheter?
[15:33] <echo310infantry> easy she fondles the ipad and uses unbuntu
[15:33] <evdvelde> mieke: this is going to give troubles since itunes does not work under linux
[15:33] <x404x> what happens with an 8 mdadm drive array if 4 drives fall out at the same time ? will it degrade ? shut down ? or get destroyed ? Often power plugs can have loose connections
[15:33] <rigved> echo310infantry: no. i havn't tried that. only tried uninstalling chrome but not chromium. thanx, i'll try that.
[15:34] <mieke> evdvelde: so virtualbox it is?
[15:34] <evdvelde> x404: which type of raid are we talking about? what type of configuration? but 4/8 is a lot
[15:34] <evdvelde> mieke: that is a possible solution i guess
[15:34] <evdvelde> or not using the ipad and looking for an android tablet :)
[15:34] <x404x> raid6 mdadm software , jfs 8 drives total
[15:34] <ubuXubu> well lea123 now is as good of a time as ever to try w7!
[15:35] <lea123> ubuxubu : Good news is that I successfully logged into my Windows Vista however I don't see my D partiion as of now
[15:35] <lea123> ubuxubu : Not at the moment :) I am not giving up
[15:35] <ubuXubu> never grrrrrr
[15:35] <SAngeli> echo310infantry, any advice?
[15:35] <evdvelde> x404x: raid6 can only cope with 2 failing drives
[15:35] <ubuXubu> lea123 sounds like u plopped buntu over top of d maybe
[15:36] <echo310infantry> sang i pm'd u
[15:36] <Roasted_> Is there no practical way (except via terminal) to effectively chown -R of an entire folder's contents?
[15:37] <przemek_> Roastet, check file propertis in nautilus
[15:37] <airtonix> Roasted, ^
[15:37] <kitrana> is there a way to get gkrellm to overide cpu scaling as an alert response?
[15:38] <ubuXubu> when u boot up u should have a choice vista or buntu lea123
[15:38] <ubuXubu> did that happen
[15:38] <airtonix> Roasted, you might liket o check out installing nautilus-elementary (and most of the extra nautilus packages like python-wine)
[15:39] <x404x> yes i know so if a power plug fails then my raid is toast ?
[15:39] <dude> i need to install my USB printer, it did work great in 9.04 but now in 10.04 it won't print anything
[15:39] <x404x> maybe i should solder them all together
[15:40] <x404x> can i setup mdadm to shut down the raid if more than 2 drives fail ? and not destroy it
[15:40] <ikonia> x404x: it won't "destory it" but data will be lost
[15:40] <ikonia> x404x: the array will just go offline
[15:40] <airtonix> x404x, i assume so but if not there must be a way since ebox provides such a way
[15:41] <brontosaurusrex> what could be the reason to make gnome session to autologout ?
[15:41] <Medo42> Hi. Can someone help me set up PHP mail delivery for a server?
[15:41] <przemek_> is there any way to listen to cd-in while watching tvtime? couse /dev/mixer in gone
[15:41] <raj> hi
[15:41] <student> hello?
[15:41] <raj> hi this is raj
[15:42] <noob-tux> ikonia: i got something to share.... pls tell anyone who got gpg badsig everytime they update to change server and i've used before US and now CZ it works fine! thanx hope this will help!
[15:42] <student> this is freaky
[15:42] <dude> how do i install a HP LaserJet 6L connected via USB? my system asks for a device URI - wtf?
[15:42] <ikonia> noob-tux: not really
[15:42] <x404x> how will ubuntu 10 and mdadm react to hotswap ? can i just yank a bad drive , plug in a new one and it will automatically fix it and never go offline ?
[15:42] <ikonia> x404x: host swap depends on your hardware
[15:42] <ikonia> x404x: mdadm you will need to activate the new drive into the arrray
[15:43] <rigved> echo310infantry: nop, still doesn't work. thanx for your help.
[15:43] <student> say hi
[15:43] <donica> Hi I would like to buy a flip video camera
[15:43] <donica> http://store.theflip.com/en-us/products/UltraHD8GB2HR.aspx
[15:43] <donica> to be installed on a PC with Ubunto
[15:43] <donica> think there are drives
[15:43] <donica> thanks
[15:43] <FloodBot2> donica: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:43] <erUSUL> dude: System>Admin...>Printers does not work for you ? it does not show the printer?
[15:43] <Medo42> I removed plesk because I had trouble with it, but since that also removed qmail my forum software can't send out email anymore right now. Simply reinstalling qmail did not fix the problem. Fast help would be appreciated.
[15:43] <x404x> i have a 3ware controller
[15:43] <ikonia> donica: what do you want us to do with that ?
[15:43] <ikonia> x404x: so ?
[15:43] <airtonix> !who
[15:43] <erUSUL> !mta | Medo42
[15:43] <echo310infantry> rigvid.. oh well
[15:44] <dude> erUSUL: nope, auto-detect don't work as well
[15:44] <ubuXubu> lea123, oh lea123 where are you!
[15:44] <dude> erUSUL: which is strange since it worked fine in 9.04
[15:44] <Medo42> erUSUL, I'll look into it.
[15:44] <erUSUL> dude: yep; stranage. hp printer and moreso laser printers should "just work (tm)"
[15:45] <lea123> ubuxubu : I think I don't get to see the choice for booting into UBuntu...
[15:45] <donica> ikonia I just wanted to know before you buy, if there were drives
[15:45] <erUSUL> dude: the printer show up in "lsusb" output?
[15:45] <ikonia> donica: contact the vendor and find out
[15:45] <ubuXubu> lea123 when u turn it on wut happens
[15:45] <dude> yep
[15:46] <dude> oh, i just see a friend has gotten it into "printers"
[15:46] <dude> it shows up as "idle"
[15:46] <dude> but test page dont work
[15:46] <lea123> ubuxubu it boots straight into vista
[15:46] <dude> only the printers self test page works when i press the button on the printer
[15:46] <ubuXubu> lea123 was the box checked off for grub
[15:47] <lea123> ubuxubu ; where would that be ??
[15:47] <lea123> I don't think i saw that through out the installation
[15:47] <moke99> hmm in gparted, if i resize the only parittion on an external usb, by mioving the start f the partition , wmight i lose data?
[15:47] <ubuXubu> it was just during partitioning
[15:47] <moke99> or can someone who has tried this, verify its 'safe'?
[15:47] <erUSUL> dude: right click; activate?
[15:48] <Vogg> hello ~ i tried to /install/ xchat and get the following error : E: Couldn't find package xchat
[15:48] <lea123>  ubuxubu : though my D drive has disappeared completely
[15:48] <moke99> vogg, x-chat
[15:48] <moke99> but u r on it
[15:48] <moke99> :/
[15:48] <Vogg> ffs .. yoiu  mean it has to have a dash in the name ?
[15:48] <lea123>  ubuxubu : Did you mean I had to make yet another partion to inlcude GRUB
[15:48] <moke99> lea
[15:48] <ubuXubu> no
[15:49] <dude> erUSUL: just clicked on print test page
[15:49] <moke99> at the end of instsallation , uy forgot to install bootloader or it was placed in the wrong place...
[15:49] <moke99> lea123, *
[15:49] <dude> erUSUL: state goes from "idle" to "processing"
[15:49] <ubuXubu> grub was already checked off for me i just asked u to look for it when u were workin
[15:49] <dude> erUSUL: then it goes idle again and the job kills itself
[15:49] <ubuXubu> u never answered though
[15:49] <lea123> moke99 what do you mean
[15:50] <erUSUL> dude: /var/log/cups/error_log ?
[15:50] <lea123> moke99 what do you mean?
[15:50] <moke99> no lea123, at the end i think u have 'advanced' option or so, there u will be asked or u can change whee bootloader is installed... which disk, have u installed to? (main internal one or an external or a secvondaryt or what?)
[15:50] <przemek_> is there any way to listen to cd in while watching tvtime? couse /dev/mixer in gone
[15:51] <dude> erUSUL: E [12/Nov/2010:15:47:06 +0100] Unable to remove temporary file "/var/spool/cups/tmp/.hplip" - Is a directory
[15:51] <Vogg> moke99; xchat does not have a dash in the name
[15:51] <lea123> moke99 I am using the 10.10 installation
[15:51] <dude> erUSUL: i think its from booting
[15:51] <erUSUL> dude: dounbt that's the problem... nothing else ?
[15:51] <moke99> for eaMPLE.. if you have only OEN physical disk.. and vista was preistalled it will be /dev/sda1, your new install is prolly /dev/sda2 say.. but if on the same disk, install bootloader onto /dev/sda
[15:51] <dude> nope
[15:51] <littlegirl> Does anyone know when the 260 series of NVIDIA drivers will be made available via Ubuntu --> System --> Administration --> Hardware Drivers?
[15:52] <moke99> this shud be fine with any amount of physiucal as long as we r not tsalking externals here. as sda is the mBR
[15:52] <rocket16> My system-monitor shows only 424 MB RAM, while my laptop has 512 MB. Does RAM decrease with time due to wear or tear or what? I'm a bit confused.
[15:52] <rocket16> :((
[15:52] <rocket16> :((
[15:52] <FloodBot2> rocket16: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:52] <moke99> ok well, hmm, uwish to keep yoru vista yes abd yo made a new partiton or 'use existing side by side' option?
[15:53] <ubuXubu> look in disk mgmt lea123 and see wut happened
[15:54] <rigved> rocket16: it's normal. even i have 4GB RAM but it shows up as 3.9 GB
[15:54] <moke99> in which case, it is a bit strange it didnty automatical;l;y put boot onto MBR but .. try running from the cd again, and u shud be able to boot from local disk OR go live and ah sigh... nvm, u have o reinstall bootloader on to /dev/sda
[15:54] <moke99> i gotta go though but ubuXubu will explain
[15:55] <rocket16> rigved: I see, thanks.
[15:56] <mnemoc> hi, I installed ubuntu-netbook in a 10.10 ubuntu ltsp server, but when choosing UNE in GDM on a clean (empty $HOME) test user I only see the mouse pointer and the standard ubuntu 10.10 background. there are 25 processes running under that user, but nothing that i can recognize as "unity"'s
[15:57] <mnemoc> and hint on how can I get the "netbook" desktop?
[15:57] <intick> hi all
[15:58] <SylvanEdict1> Does anyone have experience with pymol 1.3? I need it for a research project, but whenever I try to run it I get errors
[15:58] <fsalgo> does anyone know of any light weight http proxy server?
[15:58] <intick> how can i make a gnometerminale shortcut starting with already root logged on ?
[15:58] <fsalgo> and simple to setup proxy server. thanks.
[15:59] <mehwork> why does 'df -m' seem to show blocks as megabytes yet the man page and --help don't show '-m' is an option?
[16:01] <astrostl> on a 10.04 LTS system, need libglib1.2-dev (old).  is there a best-practice for installing a package on Ubuntu which isn't in the standard repository?  my default was going to crawl back to the last LTS and install from there, but I'm not looking forward to dependency issues.
[16:02] <opu> my software centre is not starting, and i cannot start synaptic or update manager too :( please help
[16:02] <zhouein> ?????
[16:02] <zhouein> njkhkjhjkhkjhjhjhki
[16:02] <ubuXubu> opu waht version ru using
[16:02] <opu> ubuntu 10.10
[16:03] <ubuXubu> ewww
[16:03] <opu> what ? :(
[16:03] <ubuXubu> reboot
[16:03] <opu> only reboot?
[16:03] <duckx0r> opu, open up your terminal program and type sudo apt-get -f install
[16:03] <fmerges> hi
[16:03] <fmerges> getting: python: /build/buildd/sip4-qt3-4.10.5/siplib/siplib.c:2600: sip_api_parse_result: Assertion `assign_helper != ((void *)0)' failed.
[16:03] <fmerges> any idea?
[16:04] <przemek_>  is there any way to listen to cd-in input while watching tvtime? couse /dev/mixer in gone
[16:04] <OerHeks> opu is there on the rightside upper panel of an update icon
[16:05] <Rictoo> hello, i received an ip address from my modem, but im unable to make any outgoing (or receive incoming) connections
[16:05] <opu> update icon har a red cross on it :(
[16:05] <Rictoo> when pinging an ip, i get network is unreachable
[16:05] <OerHeks> opy yes, klick on it
[16:05] <Rictoo> and when pinging that box, packets are received (TX increments) but it doesn't reply to the pings
[16:05] <Rictoo> what could the problem be?
[16:05] <opu> http://pastebin.ca/1989195
[16:05] <pinoyoragon> Hi. I was wondering why sometimes 10.10 give me a 1024x768 reso on my external monitor, and sometimes 1440x900. how should i fix this? i want the max reso
[16:06] <opu> update manager gives this message
[16:06] <opu> http://pastebin.ca/1989195
[16:06] <meowsus> Does anyone have any expertise configuring a base system install for a laptop? Specifically with ACPI scripts? I'm trying to do things like use pm-utils to suspend the computer when the lid is closed regardless if i'm in an X session or not...
[16:07] <bsod> hm
[16:07] <duckx0r> Rictoo, I guess you've tried resetting the connection, right?
[16:07] <Rictoo> duckx0r, of course, yes
[16:07] <lee__> pinoyoragon:    you can specify custom resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:07] <Rictoo> im using a remote console now
[16:07] <Rictoo> this is on a remote box
[16:07] <OerHeks> opu am-monkeyd-nautilus-elementary-ppa is giving an error, remove it and re-update ?
[16:07] <fmerges> getting: python: /build/buildd/sip4-qt3-4.10.5/siplib/siplib.c:2600: sip_api_parse_result: Assertion `assign_helper != ((void *)0)' failed.   any idea?
[16:07] <Rictoo> i have less than 1.5 hours to find and fix the issue
[16:07] <fmerges> 10.10
[16:07] <duckx0r> Rictoo, heh well i'm all out of ideas... except maybe if the ethernet cable needs replacing :P
[16:08] <Rictoo> well, you havent even mentioned screwed up iptables rules yet
[16:08] <coz_> if you guys cannot get a solution here at this time...try ##linux channel
[16:08] <pinoyoragon> lee__: i don't have a file like that in my ubuntu 10.10
[16:08] <Rictoo> (i flushed them though and it still doesn't work) :p
[16:08] <fmerges> on ubuntu 10.10 im getting when im trying to execute a python qt app: python: /build/buildd/sip4-qt3-4.10.5/siplib/siplib.c:2600: sip_api_parse_result: Assertion `assign_helper != ((void *)0)' failed.   any idea?
[16:08] <Chaos2358> I am having trouble with video playback on ubuntu 10.10. When playing video be it from a dvd, hard drive, or internet source such as hulu, fancast etc. my screen goes black after ten minutes. I have the screen saver turned completely off, i have power settings set to never put display to sleep when inactive but it still does it every ten minutes like clock work. someone PLEASE help!!!!
[16:08] <coz_> fmerges, is this already compiled?
[16:08] <lee__> pinoyoragon:    then somethings wrong with ur install because i run 10.10 and have it
[16:09] <lee__> pinoyoragon:   same goes for 10.04, 9, 8
[16:09] <Chaos2358> coz_ hey budddddy
[16:09] <fmerges> coz_, im using qt4, qwt + python
[16:09] <coz_> Chaos2358,  hey guy
[16:09] <mariella> hello
[16:09] <fmerges> coz_, on a freshly upgraded 10.10, on 10.4 working without problems
[16:09] <coz_> fmerges,  mmm  then I probably cant help but you may want to go to the #kubuntu chanel
[16:09] <mxgms> hello
[16:10] <Chaos2358> coz_ how you been
[16:10] <coz_> fmerges,  they may know more about qt
[16:10] <Chaos2358> well guys any ideas?
[16:10] <pinoyoragon> lee__: what should i do then?
[16:10] <coz_> Chaos2358,   well thanks,, and you?
[16:10] <fmerges> coz_, thanks
[16:10] <mxgms> what is the stuff?
[16:10] <lee__> pinoyoragon:   in terminal type "locate xorg.conf"
[16:10] <Chaos2358> coz_ good just trying to resolve a video issue
[16:10] <lee__> you don't see it?
[16:11] <karlo94> java do not work on tor browser for me, it is enabled ..any suggestions?
[16:11] <nkn> can anyone help me open some ports up or something so i can use deluge/transmission? deluge sais no incoming connections, transmission sais ports closed. got a ZTE MF110 usb modem
[16:11] <Chaos2358> coz_ hey i actually compiled a dlna server from source code yesterday! i am getting a lot better
[16:12] <lee__> nkn... that's a firewall issue most likely
[16:12] <n3rV3> nkn maybe your isp is blocking them
[16:12] <n3rV3> :)
[16:12] <erikg_> Any one successful with iscsi  devices on ubuntu server
[16:12] <lee__> nkn...  ports for transmission especially should already be open, unless you did something yourself to block them
[16:12] <panderiz> Hey I'm trying to use fglrx for graphics but from what it seems it isn't working
[16:12] <pinoyoragon> lee__: its in /var/log/xorg.conf
[16:12] <panderiz> fglrxinfo gives a seg fault
[16:12] <Chaos2358> I am having trouble with video playback on ubuntu 10.10. When playing video be it from a dvd, hard drive, or internet source such as hulu, fancast etc. my screen goes black after ten minutes. I have the screen saver turned completely off, i have power settings set to never put display to sleep when inactive but it still does it every ten minutes like clock work. someone PLEASE help!!!!
[16:13] <coz_> Chaos2358,  very cool :)
[16:13] <pinoyoragon> Chaos2358: use vlc
[16:13] <nkn> lee_ , didn't do anything :/
[16:13] <lee__> pinoyoragon:    that's just a log,  the file is missing.   what card are you using?
[16:13] <mariella> I'm sort of a newby, I've been using ubunto for almost 2 year and almost everything worked well till this summer;after an update my ndiswrapper died together with my marvell8335 wireless card. Could you help me? I tried every solution I found on forums but none worked
[16:13] <lee__> nkn,  have you tried another client?
[16:13] <pinoyoragon> lee__: i915gm
[16:13] <nkn> lee__ just deluge and transmission
[16:13] <Chaos2358> pinoyoragon, vlc wont do any good if it is happening even during internet streaming video
[16:14] <lee__> pinoyoragon:   try sudo apt-get install xorg
[16:14] <lee__> pinoyoragon:   something removed your xorg.conf, i imagine
[16:14] <pinoyoragon> lee__: it says i have the latest version
[16:14] <lee__> nkn,  are you behind a firewall?
[16:14] <brontosaurusrex> mplayer, vlc, whatelse? could be used from command line i a way to enqueue files without restarting the player itself?
[16:15] <panderiz> Hey I'm using fglrx for my graphics card but when I run fglrx info I get a segmentation fault. Anybody know how I can fix this so I can actually use fglrx?
[16:15] <frostburn> Why are all my emails being sent out in chinese
[16:15] <lee__> pinoyoragon:    yeah, that's weird.. never seen that before.  you could try purging and reinstall xorg, i suppose
[16:15] <[V13]Axel> panderiz: What is the model of your graphics card?
[16:15] <nkn> lee__, iptables i gues, i'm on 10.04
[16:15] <panderiz> [V13]Axel: I'm using HD 3300
[16:15] <lee__> nkn,  i mean a network firewall
[16:16] <nkn> lee__, not that i know of
[16:16] <mxgms> it'seasier to see the rules through ufw
[16:16] <pinoyoragon> lee__: apt-get purge xorg ???
[16:16] <lee__> nkn:  if you changed your iptables then you apparently need to uncahnge it to allow torrent ports
[16:16] <lea123> how do I install the grub if I have forgotten into include
[16:16] <lee__> nkn:   http://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter/2001-September/026499.html
[16:17] <lee__> nkn:  sorry, just google iptables ports
[16:17] <[V13]Axel> panderiz: Hmm. Have you tried running it as root?
[16:17] <Ifur> anyone know if there is known problems with intel 5400 chipset and ubuntu with kvm? cant seem to get iommu working...
[16:17] <lee__> pinoyoragon:   yes, i think that'll close your x session though, so save ur work
[16:17] <totem> hi anyone have link for printer driver canon pixma iP2770 for ubuntu 10.10 64 bit?
[16:17] <panderiz> [V13]Axel: Yeah, didn't do anything different
[16:17] <nkn> lee__, k thanks
[16:18] <totem> google doesn't love me anymore
[16:18] <frostburn> Seriously, anyone know why all my emails sent through evolution are being sent in chinese instead of UTF8?
[16:19] <[V13]Axel> panderiz: Have you tried using the drivers from ATI's website?
[16:19] <panderiz> [V13]Axel: How would I do that?
[16:20] <Failican> I wanna change something cool, telll me how ;D
[16:20] <[V13]Axel> Go to the ATI website, (www.ati.com) and under the Download Drivers section, choose your graphics card model. Then, click View results.
[16:20] <[V13]Axel> Failican: What do you mean?
[16:20] <coz_> Failican,  something "cool" ?
[16:21] <coz_> Failican,  like themes...or settings...or a new application?
[16:21] <panderiz> [V13]Axel: Alright got it downloading. How do I uninstall what unbuntu has installed?
[16:21] <[V13]Axel> panderiz: You do not need to; It will automatically be uninstalled when installing the ATI driver.
[16:22] <idefine> how can I ignore the unprotected private key file warning? I know i can change my permissions, but I actually do not want to change the permissions, how can I avoid this?
[16:22] <panderiz> [V13]Axel: Alright
[16:22] <idefine> how can I ignore the unprotected private key file warning? I know i can change my permissions, but I actually do not want to change the permissions, how can I avoid this?
[16:22] <panderiz> [V13]Axel: Will try to use .run from ati. Do I need to relog to check if it works?
[16:23] <Chaos2358> I am having trouble with video playback on ubuntu 10.10. When playing video be it from a dvd, hard drive, or internet source such as hulu, fancast etc. my screen goes black after ten minutes. I have the screen saver turned completely off, i have power settings set to never put display to sleep when inactive but it still does it every ten minutes like clock work. someone PLEASE help!!!!
[16:23] <[V13]Axel> You will have to restart your computer once it's finished installing, as it is with any video driver change.
[16:23] <panderiz> [V13]Axel: Alright
[16:24] <Chaos2358> hello?
[16:24] <Failican> hmm a new application would be considered "cool"
[16:25] <LadyNikon> Chaos2358: gonna have to wait til soneone is available to respond
[16:25] <coz_> Chaos2358,   did you already install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[16:26] <[V13]Axel> Failican: You can go to the Ubuntu Software Center and type in something that you want, like a Super Nintendo Emulator, and it will show up. The best one is ZSNES.
[16:26] <coz_> Failican,  are you aretistic in any way?
[16:26] <Chaos2358> yes i have
[16:26] <coz_> Failican, rather artistis
[16:27] <coz_> Chaos2358,   ok  and which video player are you using?
[16:27] <lea123> I just installed ubuntu on my Windows Vista- However it doesn't show up as a choice to me while booting up. Disk Manager shows the partions though..
[16:27] <Chaos2358> i hane all restricted extras
[16:27] <Failican> yeh, well im not that good but i could try :)
[16:27] <gabriel__> Hi everyone
[16:28] <lea123> Does Disk Management in Vista show the type of file system ?? such as ext3 ?
[16:28] <coz_> Failican,  ok one is gimp  and the other is inkscape  and another is pencil
[16:28] <bindi> lea123: it doesnt support that
[16:28] <coz_> Failican,  so sudo apt-get instal gimp inkscape pencil
[16:28] <gabriel__> I have a Dell latitude d800 and I  would like to know if there is a software to check my battery status in a graphical way, I use Ubuntu 10.10
[16:28] <Failican> yeah i have gimp already :)
[16:28] <lea123> bindi I meant in Disk Managment
[16:28] <bindi> yes.
[16:28] <bindi> it doesnt support that.
[16:29] <panderiz> [V13]Axel: It's working now, thanks
[16:29] <lea123> It shows NTFS
[16:29] <coz_> Failican, l you can also try mypaint which is going to be a fine replacement for corel Painter at some point
[16:29] <[V13]Axel> panderiz: It's no problem, really. :)
[16:29] <coz_> Chaos2358,   which vodeo player are you using?
[16:29] <Vogg> can any1 help me get xchat installed
[16:29] <NikitaUtiu> sure
[16:29] <coz_> Vogg,   sudo apt-get install xchat
[16:30] <Vogg> coz_; that doesnt work
[16:30] <coz_> o0
[16:30] <NikitaUtiu> have you tried synaptic ?
[16:30] <coz_> Vogg,   what is the read out when you try that?
[16:30] <gabriel__> Hi I need some help please
[16:30] <gabriel__> I have a Dell latitude d800 and I  would like to know if there is a software to check my battery status in a graphical way, I use Ubuntu 10.10
[16:30] <ptantiku> hi, anyone know how to use sdparm? it doesn't save my settings
[16:30] <carabobo> buenas
 ¿por casualidad alguien sabe como hago para volver a colocar la barrita del navegado firefox que esta a mano derecha?
 es donde uno baja y sube la pagina
[16:30] <coz_> gabriel__,  there should be for gnome panel let me check hold on
[16:31] <Vogg> NikitaUtiu; i tried synatic cente and xchat failed to install and then disappeared altogether
[16:31] <Failican> thanks for the tip im happy for today :)
[16:31] <Chaos2358> with the hdd video and dvd the standard movie player but it also does the same thing when playing online video through the web based video player
[16:31] <coz_> Vogg,  open system/adminstration/synaptic package manager
[16:31] <NikitaUtiu> Vogg; try the apt-get again and post the output
[16:32] <airtonix> gabriel__, it should already be in the panel
[16:32] <Vogg> NikitaUtiu; i have the output here now .. do you want to see it ?
[16:32] <Chaos2358> coz_ above was for you
[16:32] <coz_> Chaos2358,  did you install  vlc
[16:32] <Failican> btw where is the ny pencil
[16:32] <NikitaUtiu> Vogg; yes
[16:32] <Failican> or incscape i ment
[16:32] <Chaos2358> yes but dont use the actual player
[16:32] <Medo42> I've installed postfix now and my forum software is sending mail again, thanks.
[16:32] <airtonix> Failican, sudo apt-get install inkscape
[16:32] <gabriel__> airtonix, yeah it is but it doesnt show up the percentage left on the battery
[16:32] <coz_> Chaos2358,   try sudo apt-get install vlc  it will also install a firefox plugin for video
[16:32] <Vogg> NikitaUtiu; the last line reads :
[16:32] <Vogg> E: Couldn't find package xchat
[16:33] <Vogg> opps sorry
[16:33] <coz_> Failican,   sudo apt-get install pencil
[16:33] <Chaos2358> did all that back in 10.04 before the upgrade to 10.10
[16:33] <airtonix> gabriel__, yes it does, left click it to get more info
[16:33] <coz_> Failican,  sudo apt-get install inkscape
[16:33] <Chaos2358> coz_will try it again
[16:33] <Failican> ye i installed inkscape :) now i found it
[16:33] <coz_> Failican,  these should be under  Applications/Graphics
[16:33] <coz_> Failican,  oh ok
[16:33] <NikitaUtiu> Vogg;  do you have the repositories enabled ?
[16:33] <ptantiku> anyone know how to make sdparm save HDD config
[16:33] <gabriel__> Airtonix, I already did that and it only shows laptop battery in time left
[16:33] <coz_> Failican,  inkscape is a vector drawing applicatoin...great for crystal clear images at any size
[16:34] <airtonix> gabriel__, for me its shows a lot more than that...
[16:34] <Medo42> Is postfix "secure by default", i.e. should I be aware of any security related settings? Connecting to the smtpd from the internet seems to be blocked, so that looks good.
[16:34] <airtonix> Failican, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tag/talika/
[16:34] <Vogg> NikitaUtiu; i beleive so .. however i do get another error
[16:34] <coz_> Vogg,  did you open synaptic package manager?
[16:34] <coz_> talika is cool :)
[16:34] <LadyNikon> anyone having issues with java crashing?
[16:34] <Vogg> NikitaUtiu; i get this error from repositories : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:34] <Vogg> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[16:34] <coz_> LadyNikon,   when does it crash
[16:35] <airtonix> Failican, and you might also like cardapio too.
[16:35] <NikitaUtiu> Vogg; you have apt running somewhere else probably
[16:35] <Chaos2358> coz_ apparentlly it got removed during upgrade to 10.10 somehow because i remember downloading it but it told me it wasnt installed and is installing now
[16:35] <coz_> Vogg,  is synaptic opened
[16:35] <LadyNikon> coz_: sorry not java flash
[16:35] <LadyNikon> anyone having issues with flash crashing?
[16:35] <coz_> LadyNikon,  ok did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[16:35] <LadyNikon> coz_: ermm
[16:35] <LadyNikon> lemme see
[16:35] <Vogg> coz_; i was running synaptic app but errors as before
[16:35] <gabriel__> Airtonix, I have checked here and I cant see the option to show battery in percentage
[16:35] <airtonix> LadyNikon, pretty much everyone does... its not something unique to linux either
[16:35] <coz_> Vogg,   ok in synaptic go to Settings/Repositories
[16:36] <NikitaUtiu> Vogg; check the system monitor and close any instance of synaptic or dpkg or anything that might use apt
[16:36] <Vogg> coz_; i have done all that but the error i get every time is : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:36] <Vogg> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[16:36] <coz_> Vogg,  then click the "Other Software"  tab and tick the boxes there  then close and Reload then hit Search and look for xchat
[16:36] <paideia> hi, can i upgrade directly from jaunty to 10.04?
[16:36] <sresu> What is Ctrl+Alt+F12 for?
[16:36] <coz_> Vogg, mmmm
[16:36] <LadyNikon> coz_: nope.. they arent installed
[16:36] <coz_> Vogg,   restart x or reboot the system
[16:36] <airtonix> paideia, jaunty? 9.04 ?
[16:36] <Vogg> NikitaUtiu; i was not running any other apps .. unless the system runs them on automatic .. eg updates
[16:36] <coz_> LadyNikon,  ok install those
[16:37] <panderiz> How do I know what version of ubuntu I'm runnin
[16:37] <unitedpotsmokers> i have a problem with maverick. install nvidia driver through "hardware driver" then after reboot cannot log in as usual - no gui
[16:37] <coz_> Vogg,  actually reboot  something is running another apt in the background
[16:37] <airtonix> panderiz, open gnome-system-monitor
[16:37] <LadyNikon> coz_: 39 packages
[16:37] <paideia> airtonix, yes
[16:37] <LadyNikon> wow
[16:37] <NikitaUtiu> Vogg; as coz said, you should rebbot first the tell us if the problem persists
[16:37] <sresu> paideia: You may set to LTS upgrade and that may help you upgrade
[16:37] <airtonix> .msg ubottu upgrade
[16:37] <coz_> LadyNikon,  yep  :)
[16:37] <airtonix> ...
[16:37] <unitedpotsmokers> need help
[16:37] <[V13]Axel> panderiz: You can always use the command "uname -a"
[16:38] <panderiz> Alright I got it. Thanks again
[16:38] <paideia> sresu, how do I do that?
[16:38] <Vogg> coz_; i am here under windows - i have to reboot to go back to ubuntu - i have tried all the options u suggest - i was not running any other apps - i have tried to install thru synaptics and terminal ..
[16:38] <BluesKaj> Vogg, , close synaptic, or package manager , then in the terminal run : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:39] <Vogg> BluesKaj; what does that do then ... ?
[16:39] <paideia> sresu, how do I ask for a LTS upgrade?
[16:39] <sresu> paideia: From update-manager, where you select for normal release or LTS release notification.
[16:39] <coz_> Vogg,  understood but that error suggests that another instance of apt was running ,, I dont how or what was using it but a reboot should kill it
[16:39] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | Vogg
[16:39] <Vogg> coz_; i have rebooted 20 times today already
[16:39] <coz_> Vogg,  ooooo
[16:39] <NikitaUtiu> Vogg; it stiil can be runing in background at startup
[16:40] <BluesKaj> Vogg, it unlocks your sources databse , which has been locked some other process
[16:40] <coz_> Vogg,  its odd for sure that it would be running at start up but I suppose its possible
[16:40] <noob-tux> what's the difference between sudo aptitude update & sudo apt-get update?
[16:40] <pavel__> dd
[16:41] <coz_> Vogg,   if you get into ubuntu and it still does this .... open up  system/administration/system monitor   click the Process tab
[16:41] <llutz> noob-tux: 2 different apt-frontends, same action
[16:41] <Vogg> BluesKaj; ok .. i will try
[16:42] <duckx0r> is there any way to change the order of the users in gdm?
[16:42] <Vogg> coz_; and then
[16:42] <coz_> Vogg,   and see if any  "apt"  is running  in system monitor
[16:42] <coz_> Vogg,  that is not the only thing to try but start there
[16:42] <BluesKaj> noob-tux, some ppl think using aptitude brings application dependencies in a safer and more organized manner resulting in a cleaner less problem prone install
[16:43] <LadyNikon> coz_: was that suppose to restart x?
[16:43] <OerHeks> noob-tux, tasksel & aptitude is removed in 10.10
[16:44] <coz_> LadyNikon,   well no it shouldnt require a restart of x
[16:44] <llutz> OerHeks: from live-cd, not from 10.10
[16:44] <LadyNikon> coz_: it crashed x
[16:44] <llutz> (default install)
[16:44] <LadyNikon> and networking
[16:44] <[V13]Axel> i know it's offtopic... But... I just lost The Game!
[16:44] <sresu> paideia: Sorry, Unfortunately, you can only upgrade from one release of ubuntu to the
[16:44] <sresu> next. There is no automatic way of jumping from one LTS to the next.
[16:44] <goltoof> [V13]Axel:     you @#$%!@#
[16:45] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, strange , wasn't aware of that , did a clean install aptiudecame with it.
[16:45] <nUboon2Age> can someone please direct me to the spanish speaking ubuntu channel?
[16:45] <goltoof> and i was doing so well
[16:45] <noob-tux> coz_: i tried using aptitude just now and works fine...now in apt-get update i got this failed to fetch http://security.blahblah i386/packages.bz2 sub-process /bin/zip2 returned an error code (2) how can i fix that?
[16:45] <[V13]Axel> goltoof: Sorry:P I lost thanks to Facebook XD
[16:45] <coz_> noob-tux,   mm  try the update again
[16:46] <noob-tux> using apt-get? or aptitude?
[16:46] <sresu> nUboon2Age: "/join #ubuntu-es"
[16:46] <coz_> noob-tux,  either one
[16:46] <nUboon2Age> sresu: ty
[16:46] <goltoof> [V13]Axel:   you lose by default just from using facebok  :P
[16:47] <noob-tux> coz_: did u do something? omg i got no error lmao.....what have u done? earlier been using apt-get update and got error for 10times....haha
[16:47] <coz_> noob-tux,  you were vogg?
[16:47] <coz_> noob-tux,  :)
[16:48] <noob-tux> coz_: lol...i swear on my moms grave...this is creepy! lmao!
[16:48] <sresu> paideia: The computers on my work cluster are upgraded rarely, and it is usually an LTS to LTS jump, implemented manually. Sorry, I know not about it though
[16:48] <BluesKaj> noob-tux, check your package manager repositories for the line that's erroring and delete it
[16:48] <coz_> noob-tux,  also if a process refused to stop in the background ,,, open a terminal and type     ps ux   ,,, this will linst the runnin pricesses  and the second column of numbers is the PID  number and to kill that process  in terminal type   kill -9  PIDnumber
[16:49] <sresu> Hey Dr_Willis! LTS to LTS upgrade jump is possible?
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> sresu:  yes.
[16:49] <coz_> noob-tux,   glad it's working :)
[16:49] <sresu> Dr_Willis: How?
[16:49] <fglrx> Hello, I added the PPA mozilla-daily repo to try out/test the very newest beta builds of Firefox, the problem now is that apt is offering me pre-stable releases of normal FF too - is there a way to blacklist these packages?
[16:49] <Sereph> I am running netbook remix 10.04 on an Asus Eee PC 1015 and when I use the suspend function and resume it, all I get is a black screen with a mouse, cannot get to tty1 or anything. What should I do next?
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> sresu:  same as you  do a normal upgrade. Jumping from 'LTS' to 'LTS' is how they normally do LTS upgrades.
[16:50] <sresu> Dr_Willis:  The computers on my work cluster are upgraded rarely, and it is usually an LTS to LTS jump, implemented manually. I could never actually do one myself
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> sresu:  i always do clean installs.. i rarely upgrade
[16:50] <coz_> ^^^
[16:50] <sresu> Dr_Willis: Provided the notification is set of LTS than normal releases, right?
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> sresu:  yep
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> sresu:  thats the default.
[16:51] <domedagen> How do I create a First Page in Writer? First page as the one in "Page Style: First Page"
[16:51] <sresu> Oh.. then I was right to suggest it to paideia
[16:52] <BluesKaj> fglrx, the latest FF is quite buggy , be glad you still have the stable one available in you repos.
[16:52] <sresu> Dr_Willis: But its not possible to have the fourth release from now from Lucid, suppose.
[16:52] <ptantiku> i have a question about 'sdparm', anyone know how to use it?
[16:53] <Sereph> !ask | ptantiku
[16:53] <sresu> Dr_Willis: This is actually one of the weak points about Ubuntu and in fact most other distros
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> sresu:  you mean jumping over LTS releases? Nopt sure thats possible.
[16:53] <ptantiku> alright, i'll try again
[16:53] <dai_> hello
[16:53] <robbiedeal> good morning everyone
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> sresu:  whats a weak point? that you cant just upgrade from anything to anything.. well you can try.. and it may work..
[16:53] <dai_> 额数了
[16:54] <robbiedeal> dmb: i wanted to say thank you for all the help you offered me the other day
[16:54] <fglrx> BluesKaj: That wasn't the question. I want to blacklist non-stable packages of FF 3.6 from the mozilla-daily PPA and keep using the new FF4 packages without being paranoid when using apt-get upgrade :p
[16:55] <sresu> Dr_Willis: The best practice is to keep /home on a separate partition, so that you can just wipe out / and reinstall the new release. Applications and settings are going to be an issue no matter how you do it. But with some package manager one can import and export packages list
[16:55] <ptantiku> sdparm doesn't save my usb hdd config. it says mode page is not savable. any thought?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> fglrx, delete the non stable ppas and then purge FF , if the unstable is the default then update and reinstall the stable release
[16:57] <panderiz> Would anybody be able to help me with an issue while starting EVE online through wine?
[16:57] <coz_> panderiz,  you might want to go to the #winehq   channel
[16:58] <goltoof> panderiz:    i can start by telling you it's a horrible idea
[16:58] <fglrx> BluesKaj: Sounds pretty weird? Why would I do this exactly? Of course apt wants to upgrade to the latest build of 3.6 from the PPA since its newer. I'm lost, oh well...
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> !info ppapurge
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. thers some sort of ppa purge app/tool in the repos i thought
[16:59] <panderiz> goltoof: Why's it a horrible idea?
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> !info ppa-purge
[16:59] <BluesKaj> fglrx , it won't upgrade if you have the new ppa deleted
[17:00] <fglrx> BluesKaj: So i just reenable it when I want to upgrade the Beta build?
[17:00] <goltoof> panderiz:   nevermind me, i'm just biased and don't use wine, i only virtualize.  and i don't even play mmo
[17:00] <myrtlebeachbums> Does anyone know where the NSS files for evolution are saved in Ubuntu 10.10, because it's not ~/.evolution anymore and I need to reset my pw.
[17:00] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis, ahh, thanks for that ..been struggling with ridding my setup of unstable app/ppas
[17:01] <zani> hello! How can I get some help?
[17:01] <panderiz> goltoof: I don't think I could run eve in a VM heh
[17:01] <panderiz> zani:  By stating your problem?
[17:01] <goltoof> panderiz:   if you had a bangin system like mine you could
[17:02] <panderiz> goltoof: lol I can run it fine through wine but if I could do it through a VM I'd more than happily do that. But I've tried running crap games via virtualbox and failed
[17:02] <BluesKaj> fglrx, if  it's in your package manager, yes, but I usually delete them until they're stable
[17:02] <panderiz> Gotta head out later
[17:02] <zani> well, I use Ubuntu 10.10 updated and my graphic card just doesn't seem to work properly
[17:02] <zth> i'm looking for an application for gnome which will let me arrange and have notes, which can be accessed by a keyboard shortcut. anyone know of anything like that?
[17:02] <zth> or just have notes on the desktop
[17:03] <maco> zth: tomboy should have a keyboard shortcut to open it
[17:03] <fglrx> BluesKaj: Not what I had in mind and kinda ignored that option somehow. Still good enough for me, thanks :)
[17:03] <robbiedeal> hopefully this question is within the scope of this room, if not please tell me :P, i am looking for a good list of must have apps for Ubuntu, right now i would even settle for someones personal favorites :P
[17:03] <zani> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series] [1002:9589]
[17:04] <zth> maco, thank you!
[17:04] <fglrx> zani: Whats your problem exactly?
[17:04] <zani> I installed ubuntu 2 weeks ago so I'm pretty new to this os
[17:04] <lithpr> hello.  I have a hard drive that have windows server 2008 on it (a friend used it).  Now i can't install ubuntu or lubuntu, i get the error "error: hd0,msdos1 write error"
[17:05] <lithpr> any ideas?
[17:05] <hamid_rostami> Can i use ubuntu-10.10-alternate-i386.jigdo for upgrading ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso ?
[17:05] <zani> I can't run any 3D application
[17:05] <j_ayen_green> ran rsnapshot for the first time... rsnapshot hourly.  The configtest was ok. The result was the snapshot target directory having all the same folders as what it should backup, but they were empty. The only thing I saw on the screen odd was at the start it said rsync: readlink_stat("/home/jeff/.gvfs") failed: Permission denied (13)
[17:05] <j_ayen_green> IO error encountered -- skipping file deletion
[17:05] <fglrx> zani: Well If you can't tell If there's something wrong why would there be something wrong? ;)
[17:05] <lithpr> stack exchange/google turned up nothing
[17:05] <fglrx> zani: That's better.
[17:05] <fglrx> zani: What 3D app?
[17:05] <zani> I think that my drivers don't work
[17:06] <zani> it's a game for linux: Amnesia:TDD
[17:06] <Fanshawe> Can anyone help me get Evolution to play sounds upon scheduled events?
[17:06] <schelcj> what is The Right Way(tm) to keep /etc/resolv.conf from being overwritten
[17:06] <Fanshawe> I can get message notifications, but the sounds simply don't play.
[17:07] <zani> I also tried to test the system and it failed running 3D
[17:07] <alexneb> hola
[17:07] <zap0> new install,  it only lets me choice 640x480  or 800x600...  how do i make it offer me more?
[17:08] <zani> I also tried installing non free drivers but when it finished booting the screen would turn purple and stay still
[17:09] <zani> so I had to set the default drivers from the safe mode
[17:10] <dermo> ignore -channels #debian,#ubuntu,#opencv,#crunchbang * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[17:10] <lithpr> is there a special way to reformat a hard-drive so that it is not recognized as msdos1.  The install process was supposed to use EXT4...
[17:10] <ikonia> lithpr: the partition type and file systeem are two different things
[17:10] <lithpr> oic
[17:11] <lithpr> is there a way to change the partition type?
[17:11] <lithpr> could that be my problem?
[17:11] <zani> and when I move windows they leave a track behind
[17:11] <ikonia> lithpr: why do you want to do that
[17:11] <lithpr> i had ubuntu installed on this grive
[17:11] <lithpr> drive
[17:12] <lithpr> but i let a friend use the pc to help build a computer lab to learn from, and now no linux!
[17:12] <ikonia> lithpr: ok, so you probably just need to re-install Ubuntu depending on what your friend did
[17:12] <LuckySMack> are there any desktop editors which allow you to edit and manage markdown files? something like gedit but which supports markdown formatting
[17:13] <lithpr> no, i've tried 10.04, 10.10, and when i reboot i get "error: hd0,msdos1 write error"
[17:13] <lithpr> also lubuntu 10.10
[17:13] <ikonia> lithpr: are you doing a wubi install ?
[17:14] <lithpr> no, installing from CD
[17:14] <zani> helloo?
[17:14] <ikonia> lithpr: from the livecd can you please paste the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please
[17:14] <lithpr> sure!
[17:14] <lithpr> one sec
[17:14] <ikonia> lithpr: use a pastebin
[17:15] <authpass> huah....
[17:15] <authpass> ngantukkkkk
[17:15] <ikonia> authpass: please stop that
[17:15] <ikonia> authpass: do you need help with Ubuntu ?
[17:16] <zani> hey fglrx are you still with us?
[17:16] <ptantiku> how can i see which program is using /dev/sdb1 ?
[17:16] <hamid_rostami> ptantiku: lsof /dev/sdb1
[17:16] <ikonia> zani: there is no-one called fglrx in the channel
[17:17] <zani> what?
[17:17] <ikonia> zani: you asked if fglrx was with us, there is no-one called that in the channel
[17:17] <hamid_rostami> zani: use fgl<TAB> for autocompletion
[17:18] <uburuntu> what it means to pysch pysch pysch?
[17:18] <ptantiku> thanks hamid_rostami, i'll try
[17:18] <duffydack> I wanna have ubuntu on my 32gig usb stick but I wanna remove/add programs and save a lot of files so im wondering whats best, install it properly to the stick,  or have it live with persistence....what would use less writes?
[17:18] <hamid_rostami> ptantiku: yw
[17:18] <ikonia> uburuntu: can you re-phrase your question please
[17:19] <ikonia> duffydack: botht he same
[17:19] <uburuntu> already knew what was happening, thanks
[17:20] <ikonia> uburuntu: `then why i you ask ?
[17:20] <ikonia> did
[17:20] <zani> well I have a problem with my graphic card, can you help me?
[17:20] <duffydack> ikonia, hmmm.  what about if I install fglrx and use the STA broadcom driver, if I plug it into another machine with different gfx and wifi, would it ignore the installed driver and use whatever it detects, or would it conflict?
[17:21] <[V13]Axel> !help | zani
[17:21] <hamid_rostami> zani: just ask
[17:21] <Diverdude> i am in a folder with a lot of .h and .c files. How do i use grep to search all the files for the word "symbolic" ?
[17:21] <ikonia> duffydack: it won't ignore it as ati/nvidia requires hard coded entries in the xorg
[17:21] <LadyNikon> still having problems with flash even after installing ubuntu-resticted-extras.  Any other ideas
[17:21] <duffydack> I guess I`ll try anyway since I like to 'muck about'
[17:21] <zani> ok.. I installed ubuntu 2 weeks ago so I'm pretty new to this os.
[17:21] <hamid_rostami> Diverdude: grep -R some-text /some/dir
[17:21] <LadyNikon> zani: welcome. whats up?
[17:21] <zani> this is my graphic card 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series] [1002:9589]
[17:22] <struan> LadyNikon, i too have probs with flash and firefox - but none with opera
[17:22] <LadyNikon> flash is still carashing on me
[17:22] <duffydack> ikonia, ah, so i guess I will leave it using the fan hungry radeonhd driver.. cheer
[17:22] <duffydack> s*
[17:22] <LadyNikon> struan: firefox and chromium here
[17:22] <zani> I can't run any 3D application
[17:22] <LadyNikon> zani: did you try glxgears?
[17:23] <zani> no, what is it? I think that my drivers don't work
[17:23] <LadyNikon> zani: what does glxinfo show?
[17:23] <lithpr> hi, i'm the guy with the "error: hd0,msdos1 write error" error on boot.  fdisk -l yields: gist.github.com/674382
[17:24] <zani> glxinfo: name of display: :0.0
[17:24] <zani> Segmentation fault
[17:24] <ikonia> lithpr: `yes
[17:25] <LadyNikon> zani: did you do that as root?
[17:25] <LadyNikon> or umm
[17:25] <LadyNikon> sudo?
[17:25] <zani> ._.
[17:25] <lithpr> ikonia: thank you for your help.  do you see anything weird with that output?
[17:25] <ikonia> lithpr: that looks a fine partition table, no problems there
[17:25] <zani> wait!
[17:25] <ikonia> lithpr: it looks like your install just isn't working
[17:25] <zani> yes, that's the same message
[17:25] <lithpr> lol, thanks :)
[17:26] <lithpr> i wonder what windows server 2008 could have done to my hd?
[17:26] <LadyNikon> zani: i have nvidia
[17:26] <LadyNikon> i dont know much about ATI
[17:26] <LadyNikon> !ati
[17:26] <ikonia> lithpr: nothing
[17:26] <iradnik> anyone know of a good article explaining exactly what the host name does, how it interacts with other servers, etc? It should be a valid name that resolves to the ip of the server, correct? How would I go about changing it?
[17:26] <LadyNikon> !3d
[17:26] <Diverdude> #define and #include are lines that are compiled prior to normal lines right?
[17:27] <LadyNikon> zani: try that link and see if that works
[17:27]  * hashashin nas
[17:27] <ikonia> lithpr: I think I have an answer
[17:27] <icekk> I installed ubuntu desktop on my netbook, is there a tool i can use to strip it down a little and make it faster?
[17:27] <zani> ok..
[17:27] <LadyNikon> zani: when i did glxgears it should tell you if you have it installed
[17:27] <LadyNikon> if not it should tell you how to install it
[17:27] <LadyNikon> glxgears shows your 3d stuff
[17:28] <LadyNikon> it is literally 3 gears moving in 3d
[17:28] <ikonia> lithpr: look at your partition start and end blocks, there is n overlap
[17:28] <ikonia> lithpr: re-create your partitions
[17:28] <zani> sudo glxgears: Segmentation fault
[17:29] <zani> do I have to install it?
[17:29] <ikonia> zani: it's already installed, it's just seg faulted on you
[17:29] <Noelito> I am having a problem with a package on Ubuntu 10.04 and it is stopping my computer from updating any package. The package is update-manager-core. It is stuck on 1:0.134.10 and I can't downgrade to .7 or upgrade to .11. How can I manually remove this package or upgrade it to .11?
[17:31] <karthick87> how to remove installed Xnoise, rhytmbox on my sound indicator? I am not using these 2 music player anymore I want to remove it
[17:31] <pwasek22> What would be a better virutaliztion program to use vmware esx or citrix xenserver
[17:31] <LadyNikon> karthick87: inside of synaptic.. search for the package
[17:31] <verbeck> found this in google, says that it's ubuntuforums. whats it supposed to be? http://www.mikesplanet.net/forums/
[17:31] <ikonia> verbeck: nothing to do with ubuntu forums
[17:32] <karthick87> is it possible to remove it from terminal?
[17:32] <hamid_rostami> karthick87: sudo aptitude remove packages
[17:32] <verbeck> a new proposed look  perhaps?
[17:32] <LadyNikon> lol wow
[17:32] <LadyNikon> it looks like they copied the ubuntu forums style
[17:32] <lithpr> ikonia: i am trying my 4th install, lets see if i get lucky :P
[17:33] <karthick87> lol i tried that it din work
[17:33] <lithpr> thank you for your help
[17:33] <ikonia> lithpr: pay close attention to the partition start/end boundries
[17:33] <ikonia> lithpr: don't use an extended partition for no reason
[17:33] <LadyNikon> verbeck: it looks like they just copied ubuntus forum style.. and is testing it for their own use.  They will probably modify it later for their own perpose
[17:34] <verbeck> k. thanx for clearing that up
[17:35] <jca1981> Help: Just installed Ubuntu 10.10 on my new SSD after reboot i get no grub it just bootes windows. is this an error in the installer?
[17:35] <LadyNikon> jca1981: it seems like your bootloader didnt catch
[17:37] <jca1981> LadyNikon, do i have to reinstall or is there an easyer way?
[17:39] <iradnik> Items in init.d - for example apache2 - start when teh system starts correct? not waiting for a user to login?
[17:39] <iradnik> *the
[17:41] <LadyNikon> !grub > jca1981
[17:41] <LadyNikon> !flash
[17:42] <rigved> iradnik: yes
[17:42] <iradnik> rigved: thank you.
[17:43] <rigved> iradnik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[17:45] <iradnik> Thanks. Also does changing the hostname affect public/private keys? After doing so (and having previouslky setup passwordless ssh) I have to reenter the password to ssh in.
[17:47] <icekk> i just installed bootchart, whenever i reboot my mouse is invisible and when i log in, it tries to log in but just goes blank and comes back to the login screen'
[17:48] <icekk> ??????
[17:48] <Djokera> hello
[17:48] <num> hi
[17:48] <Djokera> i need ratbox ircd but the official website unfortunately is closed now ... so is there another place where i can get it from?
[17:48] <Uranellus> hey, where is the login message (how many packages are to be updated and so on) generated? /etc/modt and /etc/issue seem not to be the source ..
[17:48] <rigved> iradnik: you are welcome. i do not know the answer to your last question. you can ask in the seahorse mailing list - seahorse-list@gnome.org
[17:49] <Noelito> I am having a problem with a package on Ubuntu 10.04 and it is stopping my computer from updating any package. The package is update-manager-core. It is stuck on 1:0.134.10 and I can't downgrade to .7 or upgrade to .11. How can I manually remove this package or upgrade it to .11?
[17:49] <ehsan> hi
[17:50] <Failican> hey,can anyone help me with ettercap?
[17:51] <sresu> GPU is hanging rapidly. The screen hangs. How to fix it?
[17:51] <lea123> Hello I installed Ubuntu the partions are visible but I think I gave the bootloader to be loaded on the on SDA3 which was the free space for Ubuntu to be installed. Any idea how to slip around this problem ?
[17:51] <blakkheim> sresu: ati?
[17:51] <sresu> blakkheim: No, I'll try that later. Thanks.
[17:52] <sresu> How to fix an incomplete logout process?
[17:52] <blakkheim> sresu: i meant do you have an ati card?
[17:52] <sresu> blakkheim: No. I hope to discuss the question later :)
[17:53] <sresu> Currently incomplete logout process is anoying me
[17:53] <Failican> can someone help me with ettercap? it cant find my ethernet connection when i want to sniff the network
[17:54] <rigved> !details | sresu
[17:54] <tesh>  im having trouble with accessing my server via ssh.  it works when i access it using another linux box, but not when using putty!
[17:55] <sresu> rigved:  How to fix an incomplete logout process? Is what I can say. The screen hangs at a balck where it tries to kill the processes
[17:55] <skione> I just setup an ubuntu 10 server and I do not see a cron.log in /var/log how can I determine where cron is logging?
[17:56] <karthick87> how to remove rythmbox from my system..?
[17:56] <GeekShadow> bonsoir
[17:56] <karthick87> how to remove rythmbox music player from my system..?
[17:56] <GeekShadow> oops
[17:56] <rigved> sresu: sudo shutdown -h now
[17:56] <rigved> sresu: try that and see what output it gives in the terminal...
[17:57] <rigved> !cron | skione
[17:58] <skione> I know how to schedule crons, I just can't find the log file in 10.04
[17:58] <skione> normally there is a /varlog/cron.log
[17:58] <lestat> skione: check syslog maybe ?
[17:59] <rigved> skione: i do not have it either. and my cron system is not setup.
[18:00] <skione> ah there it is (syslog) how would i break it out into its own log file?
[18:00] <quiescens> skione: if you want to have a cron specific log file you can make a file in /etc/rsyslog.d/ containing the line "
[18:00] <lestat> skione: probably by configuring syslog
[18:00] <grpace> Any Cairo-Dock gurus here ??
[18:01] <quiescens> cron.*          /var/log/cron.log
[18:01] <Maletor> why did freenode tell me this? http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#proxies when i visited http://85.190.0.3/
[18:01] <Maletor> I have been getting CSRF attacks from that host on my server.
[18:01] <pacifico>  zoneminder makes audio recording with camera with audio support?
[18:01] <skione> thanks
[18:01] <sp00k> I just installed Ubuntu..I'm wondering how to actually drag an icon onto the desktop? I'm on my netbook and it won't just let me drag and drop.
[18:02] <Typh> drag from where?
[18:02] <rigved> sp00k: right-click on the desktop and add a launcher to the application that you want.
[18:03] <sp00k> When I right click, nothing happens.
[18:05] <rigved> sp00k: that's weird.
[18:06] <MrsB> Maletor: The IRC server will check your host for any open proxies when you connect, its a security thing
[18:06] <sp00k> Should there be a dropdown or anything open when I right click the desktop?
[18:06] <Maletor> Right - I am also seeing 95.215.0.136
[18:06] <Agent001> Is there a way to add some cool information/intel update perhaps on the ubuntu toolbar. IE like the weather, maybe stocks, or performance about something
[18:06] <Maletor> This IP is comment SPAM
[18:06] <Maletor> MrsB:
[18:07] <Maletor> MrsB: it's trying to gain some momentum http://www.stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/95.215.0.136
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> sp00k:  Using the 10.10 netbook version?
[18:07] <sp00k> Yes.
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> sp00k:  Unity dosent have a 'desktop' its  radically differnt from the niormal gnome interface
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> sp00k:  add stuff to your favorites perhaps.
[18:08] <blue_anna> -- since I installed links2, links from applications like empathy dont open in firefox. sometimes, like from pidgin, it uses links2, but others, like with empathy, it gives me an error
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  it proberly updated your 'alternatives' to point to links2, instead of firefox. What browser do you want to use as a 'system default' ?
[18:09] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis, firefox
[18:09] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis, I just wanted to install links for the console
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> blue_anna:  then correct the alternatives.. (i do this with the galternatives tool) a nice gui to  the cli tools.
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install galternatives
[18:10] <blue_anna> Dr_Willis, thanks boos :)
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> alternatives is a interesting way to have  selectable 'defaults' for specifif tasks
[18:10] <blue_anna> **boss
[18:10] <hylian> hello i need a very simple calendar program that will stay out of the way, but will pop up with reminders without me having to start it up. (and not part of an e-mail program!)
[18:10] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:10] <Agent001> I doubt that question will be answered since mine was overlooked asking the same thing.
[18:11] <_dhie> Test
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> If no one knows.. then no one knows.  theres always the forums and just searching the package manager listing.
[18:12] <lolllllll> Hi does anyone knows if cod black ops works on an amd x2 2.4 ghz sry for asking q here
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | lolllllll
[18:13] <blakkheim> "sorry for asking" doesn't make it ok lol
[18:13] <haxx> lolllllll what i heard it laggs if u dont got an supernew computer whit the best hardware
[18:13] <haxx> lolllllll got some engine bug, that it use 100%cpu
[18:13] <hylian> is sunbird or qorganizer a good choice for a non email client calendar that will pop up and remind me of events soon to come?
[18:13] <lock> hylian: the program will have to either be running in the background or have some sort of trigger tied to the system calendar so that it could pop up on specified dates/times...as far as which specific application, i cant help you there...just takes a lot of searching, or you can write the program yourself
[18:14] <hylian> lock, thanks for the info. i really like the calendar system that comes with evolution, but dont need an email client.
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> Then dont use the email client? :)
[18:15] <eethgd> hi there, how do you change the icons of docky? what icons does it use? where can they be found?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> I thought Docky had themes.  I dont use docky any more. so thats about all i rember on it.
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> Or was it using the system icon theme.
[18:16] <lock> hylian: your welcome
[18:16] <Agent001> thanks hylian, I didn't know evolution had a nice calender system.
[18:17] <hylian> Dr_Willis, that's not the idea. it's too muddled with everything else it does, when i open the program, i want it to come straight to the calendar, minus the email client, etc. i like the idea of KISS.
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> google has google widgits that work with google calander i recall also.
[18:17] <sp00k> Thanks for the help. I'll try to figure the rest out.
[18:17] <Agent001> google calender is one of the best if you want to support google.
[18:18] <eethgd> Dr_Willis: ah ok, maybe it does
[18:18] <d0uglas> Hi, I'm looking for a simple group shared web-based calendar system but keep striking out. Basically want something like the calendar you get with the calendar plugin for RoundCube minus the email. Any suggestions?
[18:18] <hylian> i dont mind google, but i dont want a desktop calendar. I want it to stay out of my way untill i need it.
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Docky - seems to use the system icon theme here. :) i just experimented with it.
[18:18] <num> i have written an java calendr for bash with todos but it doesnt have reminder so... dont know if it suits your needs ^^
[18:18] <csstaff> hey all, how do I check what files are in a package?
[18:19] <hylian> well im gonna install sunbird first, big on mozilla programs. if that doesnt work, ill try qorganizer.
[18:19] <d0uglas> num: gotta be web based ... but thanks
[18:19] <hylian> thanks for your input people!
[18:19] <eethgd> Dr_Willis: thanks for input =) will check it out
[18:20] <csstaff> anyone know?
[18:20] <Agent001> sunbird is just an extension, much like evolution, isn't it?
[18:20] <everyrainyday> i got a problem in VI editor
[18:21] <everyrainyday> why i can't save my file in VI editor?
[18:21] <lock> everyrainyday: are you sure you have permissions to write to that file?
[18:21] <hashashin> hi, howto make autofs work properly at boot? i need to restart them to make work at each reboot
[18:21] <MrsB> csstaff: apt-file list package
[18:21] <everyrainyday> well i try sudo vi my-file-name
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> everyrainyday:  esc :wq      to save and quit. does it give a error/info message?
[18:21] <everyrainyday> yes
[18:22] <everyrainyday> the error is
[18:22] <everyrainyday> :
[18:22] <everyrainyday> can't save
[18:22] <csstaff> ty MrsB
[18:22] <lock> everyrainyday: thats not a very explanatory error msg :|
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> try :w /tmp/foo.txt    (to se eif it goes to temp)
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> sounds like some sort of permissions issue.. more then a vi issue.
[18:23] <lock> thats what i was thinking
[18:23] <everyrainyday> i know  i forget the error i would try again
[18:23] <lock> everyrainyday: are you trying to edit an existing file or are you creating a new file?
[18:24] <everyrainyday> can't open file for writing
[18:24] <mathew> hi, how do I setup dnsmask to start on boot up
[18:24] <everyrainyday> what should i do?
[18:24] <lock> everyrainyday: you dont have permissions for that file
[18:24] <everyrainyday> cuz i'm not root?
[18:25] <mathew> @everyrainyday, use sudo
[18:25] <lock> everyrainyday: b/c you have not been granted permissions to that file
[18:25] <trism> everyrainyday: what file are you trying to edit?
[18:25] <everyrainyday> a file that i my self create it B4
[18:25] <lock> everyrainyday: do this...
[18:25] <everyrainyday> i tried sudu....no succes
[18:26] <[V13]Axel> mathew: Use the following command: 'sudo gedit /etc/rc.local' and add it to the bottom above the last line.
[18:26] <lock> everyrainyday: in terminal, change your dir to the one that contains this file, and then type "ls -l"
[18:26] <mathew> everyrainyday: try sudo chattr -i filename and then sudo
[18:26] <lock> and tell us what it says to the far left of that filename
[18:26] <peggys_mouse> hi all...i was hoping to upgrade to 10.10 but i noticed a gotcha in the release notes that i'm confused about.  it refers to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cryptsetup/+bug/622762
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> do a ls -la /the/file/youareediting.txt also. so we can see its permissions..
[18:26] <mathew> thanks Axel
[18:26] <[V13]Axel> No prob, mathew.
[18:26] <csstaff> when documentation says I need openssl-dev, what package do I install?
[18:26] <peggys_mouse> i know i have an encrypted /home partition but i don't know how to tell if it might be affected. can anyone help?
[18:26] <csstaff> i don't see such a package
[18:27] <csstaff> will openssl suffice
[18:28] <erUSUL> csstaff: libssl-dev
[18:28] <erUSUL> !info libssl-dev
[18:29] <goltoof> i'm trying to kill mplayer..  i ps aux | grep "mplayer"   but it keeps changing the process number??
[18:29] <goltoof> each time i grep it's a diff pid
[18:29] <everyrainyday> i do that.that list must show the permission for each file there hu?
[18:30] <peggys_mouse> goltoof: killall mplayer
[18:30] <everyrainyday> well my  file there is -rw-r--r--
[18:30] <goltoof> no process found
[18:31] <everyrainyday> what does it mean?
[18:31] <goltoof> it just froze up and i can't close it
[18:31] <peggys_mouse> goltoof: are you sure that is the name of the process?
[18:31] <area51pilot> Im using AptonCD to move packages to a non networked system, but it dosent seem to work. Can a USB be used for the same process?
[18:32] <goltoof> peggys_mouse:    lee      19485  0.0  0.0   4012   752 pts/7    S+   11:28   0:00 grep --color=auto mplayer
[18:32] <everyrainyday> how can i change the permissons for a file?
[18:32] <goltoof> everyrainyday:    man chmod
[18:32] <goltoof> everyrainyday:    ie,  sudo chmod 777 file.txt
[18:33] <everyrainyday> thx
[18:33] <goltoof> npr
[18:33] <trism> goltoof: that is not the mplayer process, that is the grep process filtering the ps output
[18:33] <sinusoid> whats the chan list command?
[18:33] <sinusoid> i have forgotten
[18:33] <goltoof> trism:  how can i locate the process itself?
[18:34] <bluj> goltoof, try looking at the processes from pstree
[18:34] <goltoof> bluj:     hey that's pretty cool!
[18:34] <sinusoid> whats the chan list command?   '/chan'?
[18:34] <bluj> goltoof, :-)
[18:34] <csstaff> what does  v in aptitude search mean?
[18:35] <goltoof> bluj, still doesn't give me the pid though
[18:35] <lock> everyrainyday: at terminal, type sudo chmod 777 <filenamehere>
[18:35] <peggys_mouse> csstaff: verbose
[18:35] <bluj> goltoof, use 'pstree <username>' with the username running the process.. maybe see what mplayer is called and then you can run a normal ps x to grep the pid of that process
[18:36] <csstaff> wait, but the i means installed
[18:36] <csstaff> i thought
[18:36] <num> to show more information to a package
[18:36] <csstaff> so v doesn't tell me if it's intalled or not
[18:36] <sresu> How to fix incomplete logout process? After clicking on logout, the system kills some process(ttyl), checks certain things and then simply hangs on the black screen  showing what all it did. How can I fix it??
[18:36] <bluj> goltoof, actually pstree has that built in, use 'pstree -p <username>'
[18:36] <peggys_mouse> csstaff: are you just trying to find out if something is installed?
[18:37] <csstaff> no, i'm just wondering what all the flags mean
[18:37] <csstaff> no and yes
[18:37] <sanu01> guys will ubuntutweak work for 64bit linux? (10.10)?
[18:37] <peggys_mouse> csstaff: man aptitude
[18:37] <csstaff> so does v mean it's not installed?
[18:37] <csstaff> because there isn't an i
[18:38] <intrader> Anyone, how do I set the "Software Sources" - I am interested in  setting up "Other software'" to a partner's specifier.
[18:38] <shazzr> oh m g
[18:38] <goltoof> bluj:    hm, it doesn't list mplayer anywhere, weird because i'm staring right at it
[18:38] <SixThreeOh> How can I run a program as root from the gnome menu?
[18:39] <erUSUL> intrader: Software Center. Edit>Software Sources
[18:39] <erUSUL> SixThreeOh: add the netry like this « gksudo programcommand »
[18:39] <bluj> goltoof, thats what i mean.. it probably isnt called just 'mplayer' but some other alias. but if you know enough about its parents and how you started the process, pstree -p should help. e.g. did you spawn mplayer by a terminal, from within gnome desktop environment? etc...
[18:40] <bluj> goltoof, this whole procedure isnt to find the 'mplayer' process... its running process doesn't exist on your system. you need to find out what wrapper/alias mechanism is launching it.. and kill that
[18:40] <SixThreeOh> Where do I do that?
[18:41] <intrader> erUSUL, thanks, that is different from 9.04. By any chance do you know the partner's specifier for skype?
[18:41] <Mint> Hi all
[18:41] <Mint> I have a problem and i need some help.
[18:41] <erUSUL> intrader: no; sorry
[18:41] <erUSUL> !skype
[18:42] <Mint> I have 5.1 sound system.. But i dont know how i cant but it work in ubuntu 10.10
[18:42] <goltoof> bluj:  mplayer wigged out, opened a bunch of alert windows, a few hundred or so, i just clicked thru them all, crisis averted.
[18:42] <lock> lol
[18:42] <intrader> erUSUL, thanks
[18:42] <Salsero> spanihis
[18:42] <goltoof> bluj:   but yeah that pstree -p thing will def come in handy ;)   thx
[18:43] <bluj> goltoof, i suppose thats one way to do it :-)
[18:43] <bluj> no prob
[18:43] <erUSUL> !es | Salsero
[18:43] <anotherubuntusr> Hi all. I am going mad. Once I installed panel applet that made it look like mac os's. It is interfering with some software (thou not present in panel anymore). I need to purge it but I don't knew the package name. Can someone help?
[18:44] <bluj> anotherubuntusr, go back to your mac
[18:44] <lock> anotherubuntuusr: can you look in your PM under the category and see whats installed
[18:44] <lock> bluj: HA!
[18:44] <planttt> hi, my rhythmbox keeps rebooting my ipod. how can i stop that?
[18:44] <anotherubuntusr> bluj: go fuck yourself.
[18:44] <Mint> I have 5.1 sound system.. But i dont know how i cant but it work in ubuntu 10.10. Can somebody help me ?
[18:44] <bluj> anotherubuntusr, :-)
[18:44] <num> cmon guys
[18:44] <blakkheim> !attitude | anotherubuntusr
[18:44] <goltoof> anotherubuntusr:   panel applet?
[18:45] <goltoof> anotherubuntusr:   like gnome panel
[18:45] <tortoise> anotherubuntusr: you *are* trying to make your desktop look like mac
[18:45] <tjingboem> i can not throw anything anymore in the Trash but when i look into it it is empty. Is this a bug?
[18:46] <Goldline> I have a routing issue with ubuntu
[18:46] <karthick87> !owner
[18:46] <lock> anotherubuntuusr: in your package manager, go to the searchbox and type the name of the applet, then it should show up below and you can click remove...or go to the terminal
[18:46] <anotherubuntusr> tortoise: desktop =/= panel.
[18:46] <peggys_mouse> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cryptsetup/+bug/622762 anyone know how i can tell if this encryption upgrade bug will affect me?
[18:46] <Goldline> WHo is ver experienced with adding routes in ubuntu
[18:46] <tortoise> anotherubuntusr: the panel is on the desktop :|
[18:46] <Goldline> sudo route add -net 5.0.0.0 gw 5.213.147.85 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev ham0
[18:46] <planttt> heh, never saw that one: =/= for !=
[18:46] <Goldline> example
[18:47] <everyrainyday4> how can i go to insert mode in vi?
[18:47] <goltoof> Goldline:   what you trying to do?
[18:47] <tortoise> planttt: ironically, it's common among those who don't use linux lol
[18:47] <goltoof> Goldline:   fyi, might have better luck in #networking
[18:47] <c3l> Im getting errors when im booting: its failing to mount /dev, /sys, /proc etc. im getting BusyBox.. initramfs prompt. how do I fix this?
[18:47] <erUSUL> planttt: =/= imitates the matematical symbol ( and eaqual sign crossed )
[18:47] <planttt> everyrainyday4, the I key
[18:47] <rigved> everyrainyday4: press 'i'
[18:48] <planttt> erUSUL, got that, just never saw it.
[18:48] <rigved> everyrainyday4: press 'i' key
[18:48] <everyrainyday4> thx
[18:48] <bluj> c3l, thats bad.. are there more useful warnings before the mount failing?
[18:48] <bluj> c3l, did you make any changes to your kernel?
[18:48] <goltoof> erSUL,   ahhh.. yea i never seen it either
[18:48] <anotherubuntusr> The problem is I have non-English localization of ubuntu and applet name in gui does not correspond with package name. Any suggestion?  Maybe someone used it?
[18:48] <subopt> How do i build/install a fully static version of an app using apt-get?
[18:48] <steven_> hsxhshs
[18:49] <lock> i doubt you will find anyone here trying to make their linux machine look lika a mac
[18:49] <lock> ...that is...anyone other than you
[18:49] <goltoof> lock:   +1
[18:49] <steven_> a tu quel qun ki parle francais
[18:49] <goltoof> !fr  | steven
[18:49] <lock> no offense
[18:49] <bluj> subopt, i would imagine you cant 'install'.. because those packages have package dependencies (for the dynamic linking).. if you want a fully static want youll want to get the package source and build it
[18:51] <c3l> bluj: no, its on my friend (noobish) computer, so nothing advanced has been done. the first error I see is. BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request.. but its mostly mount errors, is the partition broken yuo think_ I can mount some otherpartitions via live cd, but not this one. Though, now no live cd boots at all...
[18:51] <sresu> Which application can help me trim audio files?
[18:51] <intrader> erUSUL, I am confused with "Ubuntu Software Center". I find Skype in "Canonical Parhter", I click on "more Info", that gives me a tab with one button "Use This Source". I need some "Install" button - Sorry
[18:51] <anotherubuntusr> I will say it again 'deskto =/= panel' it's just a feature, feature that goes well with netbooks now please stop acting like I would crap on a bible while you are on sunday mass.
[18:51] <everyrainyday4> how can i edit non-text file with vi?does it chang image files?
[18:51] <nothingspecial> sresu: ffmpeg
[18:51] <sresu> nothingspecial: How to do with it?
[18:52] <nothingspecial> sresu: hang on
[18:52] <planttt> everyrainyday4, what are you trying to do?
[18:52] <tortoise> anotherubuntusr: don't get so butthurt if you want help, imo
[18:52] <xangua> intrader: if you alreade enabled the partner repository just run: sudo apt-get install skype
[18:53] <bluj> c3l, 'is the partition broken'? i dont know enough about how /dev is constructed, but a failing hard disk partition shouldnt cause that error i believe. id be concerned abuot a live cd not booting either, similar error?
[18:54] <intrader> xangua, it tells me 'Package skype has no installation candidate.
[18:54] <c3l> bluj: no, im just getting stuck at the loading screen now, earlier I got stuck at the "install now" button, when trying to reinstall the system
[18:55] <everyrainyday4> can i execute linux skin's comand  in vi's command mode?
[18:55] <anotherubuntusr> tortoise: I am not 'butthurt' but making statments like 'nobody here is interested in making glorious ubuntu look like mac' is just stupid. First of all You don't knew everybody preferences second as I previously mentioned I am not intrested in making osx out of ubuntu.
[18:55] <planttt> ppffff every time I boot windows in a VM, i am happy I'm off it.
[18:55] <num> xD me too
[18:56] <nothingspecial> sresu: with the -ss and-t options
[18:56] <Sir-Integra> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with my issue after I installed Ubuntu (Backtrack) on Truecrypt, here's a link which explains everything : http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=13021&st=0&gopid=113621 (would appreciate if anyone could help me with this situation, thanks)
[18:56] <xangua> !partner
[18:56] <xangua> intrader: did you enabled the partner repository¿
[18:56] <xangua> !backtrack | Sir-Integra
[18:56] <annkas> Have just installed an asus notebook with realtek ethernet and broadcom wireless - none of them are working. Never experienced this - can anyuone help?
[18:56] <planttt> anotherubuntusr, i nobody knows the answer, it has no use asking again and again. it is not that we are not willing. we just don't know.
[18:56] <sresu> nothingspecial: Could you give one example?
[18:56] <planttt> s/i/if/
[18:56] <intrader> xangua, ah I needed to say 'sudo apt-get update' first - it is installing... installed
[18:56] <bluj> c3l, sorry not enough info to really help you.. but it does sound like some kind of hardware failure or bios configuration problem if a live cd now wont work either. try and get out of all guis and keep console view the whole time to see whats going on
[18:57] <sresu> nothingspecial: Moreover, I got WinFF which I use for videos. Is there any GUI for trimming audio files?
[18:57] <Sir-Integra> annkas, try using ndiswrapper if they're not working out-of-the-box.
[18:57] <recon69_lap> anyone know how to install libstdc++5 in Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:57] <Sir-Integra> annkas, then use the Windows Drivers using Ndiswrapper.
[18:57] <intrader> xangua, erUSUL: thanks
[18:57] <tortoise> anotherubuntusr: ur obvusly butthert
[18:58] <anotherubuntusr> Is there a way (using command line I assume) to trace panel's components ?
[18:58] <goltoof> anotherubuntusr:  how did you obtain the applet?  do you remember the name of it?  you could try searching for the original name if it's not matching the package name
[18:58] <anotherubuntusr> tortoise: Got off 4 chan kid.
[18:58] <annkas> Sir-Integra, ok . It may be a bit difficult since i haven't internet connection - both cards are dead,
[18:58] <Sir-Integra> recon69_lap,  try  doing sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 from terminal
[18:59] <goltoof> anotherubuntusr:   i haven't played around with panel apps at all otherwise i'd tell you where to look
[18:59] <Sir-Integra> annkas, don't have a USB disk?
[18:59] <alkisg> annkas: which cards? lspci -nn -k | egrep -A 2 'Ethernet|Wireless'
[18:59] <c3l> bluj: thanks, should i try the alternate install? or what livecd do you recommend
[18:59] <hylian> why am i in ubuntu-unregged when i am regged, so sayeth nickserv?
[18:59] <nothingspecial> sresu: ffmpeg -i input.mp3 -acodec copy -ss 00:00:00 -t 00:00:10 output.mp3  ....... trim first 10 seconds. Google "ffmpeg trim", there are ton`s of examples
[18:59] <recon69_lap> Sir-Integra: thx, but that wont work as it's not in the 10.04 repos
[18:59] <anotherubuntusr> goltoof: The problem is I don't remember the package name and dpkg'ging menu does not give any good results.
[18:59] <Sir-Integra>  recon69_lap - Oh I see, my mistake.
[18:59] <nothingspecial> bad use of apostophe
[19:00] <tortoise> anotherubuntusr: do you have any name for the applet?
[19:00] <trism> anotherubuntusr: all the config files for the panel applets are kept in /usr/lib/bonobo/servers/ so you could grep that directory for the name of the applet in your language, and see if it finds anything, then search for the file with dpkg -S
[19:00] <goltoof> anotherubuntusr:   right, but how did you obtain the package? synaptic?  on the internets?
[19:00] <annkas> Sir-Integra, ethernet: realtek ..RTL-8139/8139c/8139
[19:00] <planttt> anotherubuntusr, is there no history of some sort?
[19:00] <hylian> i found the calendar app of my dreams, it's called orage. i has the options not to show on the desktop or the menu bar. so all i had to do then was set it to start automatically and whalla. very very nice!
[19:00] <alkisg> c3l: does the memtest option in the cd work ok?
[19:00] <num> anotherubuntuuser. dod you install it via bash? then you could look in the .bash_history file if you can find it again
[19:00] <anotherubuntusr> planttt: what history do You have in mind?
[19:00] <annkas> Sir-Integra, wireless: Broadcom BCM4318 (airforce one 54g) 802
[19:01] <Sir-Integra> annkas, do you have a USB pen drive avaliable or so? you could download the ndiswrapper package from the net, and the drivers for your cards, then install it off your USB.
[19:01] <planttt> anotherubuntusr, some history of stuff you installed.
[19:01] <Sir-Integra> yea, I had the same card in my old Acer laptop.
[19:01] <alkisg> annkas: try the command I said above to verify that the modules are loaded. 8139 should be supported out of the box.
[19:01] <num> the bash_history file saves commands you typed in the shell earlier
[19:01] <num> its in your home dir ~/.bash_history
[19:01] <anotherubuntusr> I use apt and I don't knew of history option (thou maybe there is one).
[19:02] <goltoof> anotherubuntusr:  ~/.bash_history
[19:02] <Sir-Integra> anyone here have knowledge of truecrypt?
[19:02] <nothingspecial> anotherubuntusr: There is an apt terminal log in /var/log that will tell you everything apt has done
[19:02] <planttt> anotherubuntusr, check /var/log/apt/history.log
[19:02] <anotherubuntusr> planttt: Thank You. I will check that out.
[19:02] <bluj> c3l, sorry was busy.. ive used the fc14 live cd recently.. it works for me
[19:02] <annkas> alkisg, lspci gives me the name of the card , but shoul I put in alle the other options to find out if it is recognized?
[19:03] <num> thanx too did not know that ^^
[19:03] <alkisg> annkas: the command as I wrote it above also says the loaded modules
[19:03] <Sir-Integra> annkas, does it not show you the kernel driver in use?
[19:03] <Sir-Integra> annkas, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:03] <nothingspecial> planttt: term.log will show you what happened on the screen
[19:03] <nothingspecial> in the terminal so to speak
[19:03] <Sir-Integra> like mine says "Kernel driver in use: rtl819xSE"
[19:04] <annkas> yes, on both cards
[19:04] <annkas> Sir-Integra, 10.04
[19:04] <c3l> alkisg: im not getting to that option
[19:04] <Sir-Integra> annkas, and you're not picking up anything with those adapters?
[19:05] <alkisg> c3l: at the initial screen, before even the kernel gets loaded, if you press space you get a menu. At that menu there's an option to do a memory test.
[19:05] <Sir-Integra> annkas,  try /etc/init.d/networking restart (as root)
[19:05] <anotherubuntusr> planttt: Thank You again. It was 'indicator-applet-complete'.
[19:05] <annkas> Sir-Integra, no, nothing, I try ifup -a, haven't got anythin
[19:05] <c3l> alkisg: thanks, ill try it
[19:05] <planttt> anotherubuntusr, you could have figured that out yourself. I never used the apt logfiles .....
[19:05] <alkisg> annkas: what does `sudo dhclient eth0` tell you?
[19:06] <anotherubuntusr> planttt: Indeed I could.
[19:06] <anotherubuntusr> Thanks for input gentleman. Have a nice day.
[19:06] <recon69_lap> hmm, you could get it from the jaunty repo, but the jaunty repo not available any more :(
[19:06] <planttt> anotherubuntusr, knowing the base Linux system is always helpful
[19:06] <Kingsy> hey ppl, my server
[19:06] <planttt> btw, my rhythmbox problem seemed to be fixed by updating the ipod
[19:06] <Malkavian_> hi, I am using kopete with ICQ and since today Kopete is saying "wrong password" and wont login, although I didn't changed any settings; I can login online, with firefox; does anyone know what is happening?
[19:06] <annkas> alkisg, failed to get attributes of '/etc/resolv.conf': no such file or directory
[19:07] <Sir-Integra> annkas, go to synpatic manager.
[19:07] <alkisg> recon69_lap: all the previous repositories are available at some other location - didn't see who needs it but they do exist if you need them
[19:07] <Kingsy> ***hey ppl, I have just decided that I am going to try and setup a print server / webserver / mailserver in my back room .. is anyone available to talk about this with me for a few mins?
[19:07] <Nece228> does ubuntu 10.10 have xorg server 1.9.2 update in their repos?
[19:07] <annkas> Sir-Integra, on ehternet it says: kernel drive in use 8139too
[19:07] <Sir-Integra> annkas,  System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package manager
[19:08] <alkisg> annkas: try `sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf` and then run dhclient again
[19:08] <Sir-Integra> completely remove bcmwl-kernel-source AND dkms
[19:08] <sresu> nothingspecial: <ffmpeg -i AE.mp3 -acodec copy -ss 00:00:13 -t 00:00:28 trimAE.mp3> Any mistake in this?
[19:08] <Sir-Integra> annkas, completely remove bcmwl-kernel-source AND dkms
[19:08] <Kingsy> like for example, the computer I have in mind for the server is very slow (it previously had windows XP installed on it) would ubuntu even run on it?
[19:08] <Sir-Integra> annkas, stay in synaptic manager, and install bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:09] <alkisg> Kingsy: cpu/ram?
[19:09] <xangua> Kingsy: how many resources¿
[19:09] <Sir-Integra> annkas, then reboot.
[19:09] <Nece228> does ubuntu 10.10 have xorg server 1.9.2 update in their repos?
[19:10] <nothingspecial> sresu: looks ok
[19:10] <Sir-Integra> annkas, actually, before you reboot, Go to System -> Administration -> Hardwaredrivers, Broadcom xxx (whatever your device is) mark it and activate, then reboot.
[19:10] <annkas> Sir-Integra, When I did as alkisg told me with touch resolv.. and startet dhcpclient again it worked  - the ethernet card'
[19:10] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: If it ran XP it certainly has enough resources to run Ubuntu server.
[19:10] <alkisg> annkas: so now you have internet? ok, a good step forward :)
[19:11] <annkas> Sir-Integra, are you talking about wireless
[19:11] <Diverdude> if i want to enable this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~gstreamer-developers/+archive/ppa   Should i just enter  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gstreamer-developers/ppa/ubuntu  and  deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/gstreamer-developers/ppa/ubuntu    into repo sources and then im done?
[19:11] <sandking> anyone use jets3t? how can i set automatic login?
[19:11] <Sir-Integra> annkas, oh ok. I was talking about the wireless, yes.
[19:11] <Kingsy> alkisg - its a 2.5Ghz Celeron with 1GB DDR
[19:11] <annkas> alkisg, Yes, i've got internet -
[19:11] <alteregoa> a setibyte of data?
[19:11] <alkisg> Kingsy: yup ubuntu will run fine, of course for server use it depends on the load
[19:12] <annkas> Sir-Integra, then i do what you instructed
[19:12] <Kingsy> Jordan_U - yea but I am not the only person going to be accessing it, so it needs to have a GUI interface
[19:12] <alteregoa> please throw it away
[19:12] <Nece228> does ubuntu 10.10 have xorg server 1.9.2 update in their repos?
[19:12] <Diverdude> if i want to enable this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~gstreamer-developers/+archive/ppa   Should i just enter  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gstreamer-developers/ppa/ubuntu  and  deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/gstreamer-developers/ppa/ubuntu    into repo sources and then im done?
[19:12] <Kingsy> alkisg - can I pm you a minute? its just easier to keep track of the conversation
[19:12] <alteregoa> does 32gb mem is ok for ubuntu 20.2?
[19:12] <Sir-Integra> annkas,  hopefully, your wireless should work after that.
[19:12] <Malkavian_> can anyone login to icq via kopete?
[19:12] <alkisg> Diverdude: try sudo add-apt-repository gstreamer-developers
[19:12] <recon69_lap> well, get an error when i try look at the repo on ubuntu site http://packages.ubuntu.com/ :(
[19:13] <Sir-Integra> If someone could help me with my issue -> http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=13021&st=0&gopid=113621& I would be made up.
[19:13] <nothingspecial> sresu: Just thought, the gui app audacity will trim audio files too
[19:13] <freezway> whenever I luach audacity i get http://pastebin.com/my8aH4jH
[19:13] <bahamas> guys, what program can i use to open .chm files?
[19:13] <Jordan_U> Diverdude: The easiest way to add a PPA is via System > Adminsitration > Update Manager, click preferences, then add a third party repository, then enter "ppa:gstreamer-developers/ppa".
[19:13] <sresu> nothingspecial: How can I do that in audacity?
[19:13] <erUSUL> bahamas: xchm ? there are a few others
[19:14] <Jordan_U> Diverdude: By entering "ppa:gstreamer-developers/ppa" rather than the apt line update-manager will also install the key for the PPA.
[19:14] <opapo> I right-click on "main menubar" then click on "edit menus" and nothing happens. What do I do?
[19:14] <Diverdude> alkisg, Error: 'gstreamer-developers' invalid
[19:14] <nothingspecial> sresu: Don`t use it, or not for ages. It`svery well documented
[19:14] <Kingsy> alkisg - nm, but for example, what operating system should I install? I need a GUI you see
[19:14] <num> @bahamas im opening it with wine
[19:14] <recon69_lap> freezway: did you install and start jackd server?
[19:14] <annkas> Sir-Integra, I have a clean install here - not been able to update/upgrade yet, guess i should do that before I continue with your instructions?
[19:14] <bahamas> erUSUL: do you recommend xchm?
[19:14] <num> right klick --> open with hh
[19:14] <sresu> nothingspecial: Thanks I'll see
[19:14] <freezway> no, but it worked fine yesterday w/o it, and i never told it to use jack
[19:14] <Kingsy> alkisg - by that I mean what version of ubuntu
[19:14] <sresu> nothingspecial: Thanks ffmpeg worked
[19:14] <peptido> hello, I have a question about localization and chinese / japanese websites. Anyone here from China/Japan / used to using websites in Chinese/Japanese?
[19:14] <Sir-Integra> annkas, sure, this won't affect the wired I don't think.
[19:14] <freezway> is there a way to force start using alsa?
[19:14] <sk> bahamas: try out xchm or gnochm..
[19:15] <erUSUL> bahamas: yep
[19:15] <nothingspecial> sresu: I think if you are comfortable with cli, it`s probably easier than audacity
[19:15] <DrManhattan> Just because they look the same doesn't mean the languages are close
[19:15] <bahamas> ok. i never got wine to work properly.
[19:15] <bahamas> thanks, guys
[19:16] <Kingsy> ok, that question to anyone then, what type of ubuntu should I install for a server? it needs to have a GUI
[19:16] <sresu> nothingspecial: Yes, I'm confortable with CLI. Just that I can take time if one doesn't do it right. GUI is good option when in hurry and when unsure of CLI
[19:16] <icek> hi i installed bootchart, now when i try to login, the mouse is invisible, and when i type my pass in and hit enter, it begins to login, screen goes blank, and then it comes back to the login screen
[19:16] <icek> any advice?
[19:16] <annkas> Sir-Integra, take half an hour to upgrade - I'll take a breake
[19:17] <Sir-Integra> annkas, no problem, good luck.
[19:17] <recon69_lap> freezway: your right there, dont see why it would require jackd. you are just opening the program?
[19:17] <freezway> yes
[19:17] <Kingsy> like would it be best to just use a standard ubuntu 10.10 install?
[19:17] <sk> Kingsy: Or you could try this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-gui-in-ubuntu-server.html
[19:17] <freezway> recon69_lap, i have opened it before, and it worked the
[19:17] <freezway> then*
[19:18] <MBeentjes> Hi
[19:18] <Kingsy> sk - exactly what I was looking for..
[19:18] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: Do you plan to use the GUI for managing the server functionality or as a desktop?
[19:18] <MBeentjes> I am two days new with Ubuntu and I am already addicted to it! :D
[19:19] <sk> MBeentjes: great
[19:19] <sil_> Hi, I have Windows XP and Ubuntu 10.10 in separate partition with dual boot. I want to remove Windows and need instructions to do it.
[19:19] <MBeentjes> What are you talking about?(just for me to join it a bit >.<)
[19:19] <rocket16> If I remove Pulseaudio from Ubuntu, will there be any major change in the sound quality?
[19:19] <erUSUL> sil_: just reformat the partition used by windows to a foprmat you can use in linux
[19:19] <KB1JWQ> rocket16: It may stop working entirely.
[19:20] <MBeentjes> Via CD you can do it
[19:20] <KB1JWQ> rocket16: Aside from that, unlikely.
[19:20] <rocket16> KB1JWQ: I see. Thanks.
[19:20] <Kingsy> Jordan_U - well the real purpose of the server is as a print server, so I was gonna ask how ubuntu was with printers? it needs to be able to print documents from windows pcs and linux, and it also needs to be able to run any printer I stick on it..    the GUI as such would just be to change the printer setups and things
[19:20] <MBeentjes> What is the dutch ubuntu channel?
[19:20] <rocket16> !du
[19:20] <MBeentjes> !du
[19:20] <MBeentjes> ty
[19:20] <KB1JWQ> !nl
[19:20] <KB1JWQ> Fail. :-)
[19:20] <sil_> Is there no problem with GRUB if I reformat Windows partition?
[19:20] <quiescens> heh
[19:20] <xangua> !de > MBeentjes
[19:21] <KB1JWQ> xangua: de is german.
[19:21] <quiescens> de is german o.o
[19:21] <coz_> MBeentjes,  it should be #ubuntu-ml
[19:21] <coz_> no
[19:21] <reactor16> hi all
[19:21] <mattchewie> O_o
[19:21] <coz_> MBeentjes,  it should be #ubuntu-nl
[19:21] <Kingsy> Jordan_U - any thoughts?
[19:22]  * quiescens dies.
[19:22] <MBeentjes> Hello
[19:22] <sresu> nothingspecial: Now the other way around. I was thinking of combining now my two trimmed audio files. How can I do that?
[19:22] <erUSUL> Kingsy: cups provides a web gui for remote admin. you do not need a "real" gui
[19:23] <Jordan_U> sil_: There's nothing wrong with removing the windows partition as long as the partition number of the Ubuntu partition doesn't change. Even then you can just re-install grub.
[19:23] <sk> MBeentjes: Hi!
[19:23] <opapo> I am using Ubuntu 10.4.  I right click on the main menu and click "edit menus" and nothing happens.  How can I fix this?
[19:23] <xangua> opapo: try launching 'alacarte'
[19:23] <Kingsy> erUSUL - I do because the GUI would be accessed from the terminal
[19:24] <opapo> xangua: will that fix the issue or is that a different program?
[19:24] <ychaouche> Hello, I try to build gource and ./configure gives me this :  configure: error: SDL_image.h is required. Please see INSTALL
[19:25] <sresu> How to append two audio files?
[19:25] <pure_x01> hi.. im compiling gcc 4.6 on ubuntu 10.10 amd64 and it fails complaining about incompatible libc : http://pastebin.com/GH3MZYB5 what can i do?
[19:25] <ychaouche> SDL_image.h is in /usr/local/include/SDL but configure seems not to find it
[19:25] <ychaouche> how do I fix this ?
[19:27] <_SKiTZO> how can i add a bootscript that just prints the IP adress of the box?
[19:27] <_SKiTZO> is that just /etc/init.d/something.sh ?
[19:27] <sk> Hello
[19:28] <ychaouche> _SKiTZO, I think that boot scripts are usually put in /etc/rc_something
[19:28] <planttt> _SKiTZO, yes, then softlink it from the runlevel dir you want it to appear in
[19:28] <Pici> ychaouche: gource is in the repositories.
[19:28] <planttt> ychaouche, no, those are softlinks to /etc/init.d
[19:28] <ychaouche> planttt, ah ok
[19:28] <ychaouche> planttt, is this specific to ubuntu ?
[19:29] <opapo> the network manager applet shows up in the notification area on one user's account, but not another.  How do I get it to show?
[19:29] <ychaouche> Pici, thank you
[19:29] <planttt> _SKiTZO, it should take 'start' or 'stop' as a parameter
[19:29] <petike-hun-ubunt> hi
[19:29] <planttt> ychaouche, no, it's a kind of standard
[19:29] <ychaouche> Pici, but it would be very nice if I can challenge that problem
[19:29] <Kingsy> so if I install ubuntu server is it compaitible with ALL printers and able to take prints from windows/linux pcs?
[19:30] <annkas> opapo, may have something to do with that users permissions
[19:30] <xangua> !printers | Kingsy
[19:30] <ychaouche> Pici, because I will eventually find that problem later, and not find any package
[19:30] <Pici> ychaouche: Did you install libsdl-image1.2-dev?
[19:30] <planttt> opapo, not. It's a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/284162
[19:30] <opapo> annkas: that user is an admin
[19:30] <annkas> ok
[19:31] <Kingsy> xangua - I guess thats a yes :)
[19:31] <_SKiTZO> planttt: thanks! will that work even after upstart was default
[19:31] <planttt> _SKiTZO, no idea. never used upstart
[19:31] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: The "any printer" portion will be a problem, more so if you use standard windows printer sharing.
[19:31] <mrcreativity> does anyone else notice a difference between the 32bit and 64bit versions of ubuntu?
[19:32] <ychaouche> Pici, I installed libsdl-image-1.2.10 from the sources
[19:32] <planttt> _SKiTZO, I always did it like that, always works fine (except in Slack, which uses a different bootscript standard)
[19:32] <ychaouche> Pici, and the header file configure is looking after is in /usr/local/include/SDL/SDL_image.h
[19:32] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: With Ubuntu most printers are supported, and with supported printers you need no configuration other than plugging it in.
[19:33] <Kingsy> Jordan_U - well, I would have the printer installed and setup on ubuntu server, then surely cant you just find that printer on the windows machine as a network printer and print to it?
[19:33] <Kingsy> easy as that?
[19:33] <goltoof> is someone here using temrinator?
[19:33] <annkas> nick embrik
[19:34] <OerHeks> goltoof, what is temrinator ?
[19:34] <goltoof> !terminator
[19:34] <cellardoor> is there anyone here I can talk to about XDMX?
[19:34] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: I haven't done much work with windows printer sharing but as I understand it, both the client and the server machines need drivers for the printer being used.
[19:34] <goltoof> OerHeks:   a terminal splitter
[19:34] <skrite> hey, can't remember the wireless router ip address, is there  a linux utility that can search for what computer is on what internal ip?
[19:34] <OerHeks> goltoof, it is not in the repositoy
[19:35] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: So you would be limited to printers that are supported by Ubuntu, and would need to instal drivers as needed on the clients.
[19:35] <goltoof> OerHeks:   pretty sweet really..  trying to find the config file tho
[19:35] <embrik> Jordan_U, don't know about the server, but the client does
[19:35] <planttt> skrite: nmap
[19:35] <goltoof> OerHeks:   sudo apt-get install terminator
[19:35] <skrite> planttt, thanks
[19:35] <planttt> Jordan_U, no. You can use Cups/Ubuntu as a print server and use the windows drivers to control them. Install as 'raw'.
[19:36] <Kingsy> Jordan_U - right ok.. well I am guessing ubuntu supports brands rather than specifc printers right?
[19:36] <planttt> Kingsy, check the cups website, they list all the supported printers.
[19:36] <red2kic> Kingsy: No. It have nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[19:36] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: While there are families of related models drivers are fairly specific to a given model.
[19:37] <goltoof> OerHeks:    what you mean not in the repository,  i'm still not savvy about package vs repo vs build etc, how you check if something is in repos?
[19:37] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: As planttt has corrected me, you can use any printer supported by the client even if it's not supported by the server directly.
[19:37] <embrik> goltoof, sudo apt-cache search?
[19:38] <OerHeks> goltoof, terminator is, but ' temrinator ' i can't find
[19:38] <Kingsy> right yea, but according to this --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters <-- its not specific models that are and are not supported. its entire brands that are supported right?
[19:38] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: What is the exact situation you're using this for?
[19:38] <Kingsy> ah ok
[19:38] <marco78> Hi, its seems impossible to get "xubuntu-9.10-src.iso" from somewhere in the planet, is there a really reason?
[19:38] <goltoof> OerHeks:    pretty sure that's a type
[19:38] <OerHeks> goltoof, is the .conf hidden in you home folder?
[19:38] <goltoof> *type  :)
[19:38] <goltoof> negative.
[19:38] <soufiane> salut
[19:38] <goltoof> OerHeks:   should be  cd ~/.config/terminator/config
[19:38] <jfcaron> I have an image file (jpeg) and I want to print it to be a specific physical size on the paper.  I'm having trouble finding out how to do that, most instructions seem to be abount setting the paper size, not the image size.  Any ideas?
[19:39] <Kingsy> Jordan_U - its gonna be a print server in my house, but I have 5 ppl living here and quite a few terminals windows and linux, and I don't know which printers I might be plugging into it in the future
[19:39] <planttt> jfcaron, use a tool like inkscape to import and scale
[19:39] <Kingsy> I just wanted to cover my bases to make sure I am not wasting my time
[19:39] <planttt> or hell, you can even use openoffice
[19:39] <embrik> I have a cheap china cell phone which can play video, jpeg-motion - can I convert regular videofiles to this format?
[19:40] <Jordan_U> jfcaron: Easiest way is probably to use Open Office, it has a ruler and presumeably more detailed controll than that.
[19:40] <jfcaron> planttt: Ah ok, openoffice can probably do it.  Thanks.
[19:40] <planttt> Kingsy, get postscript printers and be done with the problem
[19:40] <embrik> jfcaron, and you can use gimp,
[19:41] <OerHeks> goltoof, i found a folder Terminator in /usr/share/terminator
[19:41] <Kingsy> planttt - I don't even know what they are
[19:41] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: Would the printers ever be purchased by anyone but you?
[19:41] <Kingsy> yes I am afriad so :S
[19:41] <planttt> Kingsy, :) google is your friend.
[19:42] <goltoof> OerHeks:   oh i find a ton of folders for it but nothing for config
[19:42] <planttt> Kingsy, postscript is a standard way of communicating with a printer (like PDF), there exist printers that accept plain, raw, postscript and print it. No driver needed. Often they support PDF as well.
[19:43] <planttt> printer drivers are a Windows invention
[19:43] <kal4shnikov> gi
[19:43] <kal4shnikov> hi
[19:44] <kal4shnikov>  
[19:44] <erUSUL> Kingsy: linuxprinting.org --> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/database/databaseintro
[19:45] <xt3mp0r> I'm running a game using wine on my ubuntu 10.10 First it used to run in full screen mode but now something happened and it only opens in a small window ? what can be the problem.
[19:45] <embrik> icedtea - java doesn't work in a lot of web-pages - must remove and install sun-java - why is ubntu 10.04 - which is a really sophisticated distro using a java-clone which doesn't work - why don't we just install sun-java in ubuntu-restricted-extras as always?
[19:45] <Maahes> Where do I go to edit kernel options? i.e.: i8042.nomux ?
[19:46] <pkkm> I can't write to the LPT port. I tried many tools, made C and Perl programs, and nothing worked. The LPT port's data outputs are in state 255 no matter how I try to write. I'm using Ubuntu Lucid. How to enable LPT?
[19:46] <_SKiTZO> gulp! i accidentally deleted /sbin/getty ! i am still logged in, how can i fix this?
[19:46] <blakkheim> lol wow
[19:46] <_SKiTZO> i tried apt-get intsall getty but there is no such package
[19:46] <erUSUL> embrik: oracle no longer let us? oracle java moved to partner
[19:46] <GodFather_of_Jav> embrik, you are better of installing manually from the Oracle Java website
[19:46] <nothingspecial> sresu: you still there, I had to pick my kids up
[19:46] <sresu> nothingspecial: Yes
[19:47] <sresu> nothingspecial: How to append two audio files?
[19:47] <erUSUL> pkkm: you may have to unload the lpt driver. i dunno if there is a driver that lets you acces the paralell port raw
[19:47] <Jordan_U> embrik: Because it's not Free software. I've personally never had problems with IcedTea, though most of what I do with java is not applets.
[19:47] <embrik> GodFather_of_Jav, yes, I do that - I dodn't know oracle was that dificult to be with - may that be the reason a lot of developers has left openoffice as well?
[19:47] <quiescens> _SKiTZO: probably sudo apt-get --reinstall install util-linux
[19:47] <nothingspecial> sresu: sox -m first_file second_file joined_file
[19:47] <ks3> _SKiTZO, To find out what package it's from, use dpkg -S /sbin/getty
[19:47] <opapo> planttt: thanks for your help.  I will wait for the fix.
[19:47] <sresu> !info sox
[19:47] <_SKiTZO> thanks
[19:47] <planttt> opapo, good luck. i have been waiting already for over a year
[19:47] <erUSUL> sresu: sox can do it? sox file1 file2 outfile
[19:48] <Java_Guru> embrik, OpenJDK comes standard on Ubuntu Linux
[19:48] <gabriele> ciao
[19:48] <sresu> erUSUL: Testing
[19:48] <xt3mp0r> The game i am running using WINE opens in a small window and i can't resize the window, is there any way to resize the window?
[19:48] <opapo> planttt: Is there someone we can pay to get this fixed?
[19:48] <nothingspecial> erUSUL: You need the -m flag........ or not?
[19:48] <Java_Guru> embrik, I just uninstall OpenJDK and use the Oracle/Sun Java
[19:48] <embrik> Java_Guru, former known as goodfather and so on: I know
[19:48] <planttt> opapo, i guess so. look around for a talented programmer
[19:48] <planttt> opapo,  is it so important?
[19:49] <_SKiTZO> you saved my bacon guys :P
[19:49] <pkkm> erUSUL, rmmod lp?
[19:49] <qorep> I'm on 10.10, and the activity levels in pavucontroler has stoped showing, all grey as if no sound, I can still change volume etc (they worked the other day, also 10.10) what to do?
[19:49] <Maahes> Where do I go to edit kernel options? i.e.: i8042.nomux ?
[19:49] <embrik> Java_Guru, me too, but it's far too difficult for every aunt and uncle and grandfather and grandmother and nephew (who isn't a gamer) and brother in law (who just uses facebook).......
[19:49] <xt3mp0r> The game i am running using WINE opens in a small window and i can't resize the window, is there any way to resize the window?
[19:50] <planttt> xt3mp0r, we heard you the first time
[19:50] <opapo> planttt: It is my wife's account where it doesn't show up.  I don't want her to have an excuse not to use Ubuntu.  I may not pay someone, just curious.
[19:50] <planttt> opapo,  would the network applet be a excuse not to use ubuntu?
[19:50] <planttt> opapo,  just let her login first :P
[19:50] <xt3mp0r> planttt: :P
[19:51] <Snarf_> Hey folks, I want to upgrade from 10.4 -> 10.10 using the desktop iso as a software source - is this possible?
[19:51] <Java_Guru> embrik, yeah some simple instructions have to be typed up to install Oracle/Sun Java for Ubuntu Linux users
[19:51] <dv-> does the ubuntu 10.10 graphical installer offer to encrypt / or just /home?
[19:51] <embrik> opapo, show her compiz fusion :-)
[19:51] <planttt> opapo, my wife uses it, never had any complaints about it. guess she doesn't care about that, as long as the network works and she can show teletubbie youtubes to our daughter
[19:51] <Jordan_U> embrik: And I wouldn't call OpenJDK a "java clone".
[19:52] <planttt> embrik, mine doesn't give a flying crap, as long as she can just use the internet
[19:52] <goltoof> can someone explain the different clip boards in ubuntu?
[19:52] <Java_Guru> OpenJDK is supposed to be an Open Source version of Java source code
[19:52] <embrik> Java_Guru, simple for me and you, not for the above mentioned - sorry about the language - I didn't mean clone, substitute maybe?
[19:52] <opapo> planttt: my wife is very particular about how things work.  She also wants to know when she is connected to the wireless so she can use the internet.
[19:52] <planttt> Java_Guru, emphasis on *supposed* to be
[19:52] <goltoof> like when i yank some lines from vim why i can't paste them right to a browser ?
[19:52] <_SKiTZO> is it possible to tell a computer NOT to have a hostname?
[19:52] <_SKiTZO> that only the IP is good enough+
[19:52] <Java_Guru> embrik, What web browser do you use ?
[19:53] <opapo> embrik: I am not a fan of the frillies, but if it gets her from complaining about Ubuntu, I might have to.
[19:53] <planttt> _SKiTZO, i dont think so
[19:53] <sresu> nothingspecial: $ <sox -m Finaljpwhiting.mp3 trimAE.mp3 Final.mp3> gave this sox FAIL formats: no handler for file extension `mp3'
[19:53] <ks3> goltoof, When you yank lines in vim, they are stored in vim, not any type of system-wide clipboard
[19:53] <Snarf_> Hey folks, I want to upgrade from 10.4 -> 10.10 using the desktop iso as a software source - is this possible? It'd save me a chunk of bandwidth :)
[19:53] <embrik> opapo, just tell her that on ubuntu she can use the internet when ever she wants - AND she doesn't need to worry about virus :-)
[19:53] <La_Phattiustoon> does anyone know if there is a fix for pianobar, yet?
[19:53] <goltoof> ks3 no way to yank lines to system clipboard then?
[19:53] <planttt> Snarf_, still on dialup?
[19:53] <dv-> does the ubuntu 10.10 graphical installer offer to encrypt / or just /home? is that just in the text installer?
[19:53] <cy_`> how can i jumpstart ubuntu installations?
[19:53] <goltoof> outside of right click copy
[19:54] <lock> snarf: burn the iso to disc and run that at boot
[19:54] <nothingspecial> sresu: default sox in ubuntu repos has no mp3 support, I`ll have to remember how to enable it. Hang on
[19:54] <embrik> Java_Guru, Firefox when I need java-plugin - else Chrome, because of the speed and smoothness
[19:54] <Snarf_> planttt: Nope, just a 60gb cap between 5 greedy people. loc: Thanks I'll do that :)
[19:54] <ks3> goltoof, There is, but the default yank doesn't. I believe it's +yy or *yy.
[19:54] <sresu> nothingspecial: Sure
[19:54] <Java_Guru> embrik, type this command -> java -version and copy and paste the output to the sceen
[19:54] <Snarf_> lock: A bootable usb drive would assumedly work fine too?
[19:54] <goltoof> ks3, negative  :(
[19:55] <planttt> Snarf_, wait until the beginning of the month, be the first to suck the bandwidth. screw the others. :P
[19:55] <embrik> Java_Guru, Why, I am not using my own PC - do yopu still want me to?
[19:55] <Snarf_> Rolling 30 day period planttt XD
[19:55] <Java_Guru> this is me - > java version "1.6.0_22"
[19:55] <Java_Guru> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_22-b04)
[19:55] <Java_Guru> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 17.1-b03, mixed mode)
[19:55] <lock> snarf_: absolutely...just make sure you extract the files from the iso onto the main drive path
[19:55] <planttt> Snarf_, kick out your roommates or get a better ISP
[19:55] <scottmaccal> Greetings, does anyone know of a company that provides remote access to a Ubuntu account (GUI and all) for a reasonable price? I did not find anything that looked promising with Google.
[19:55] <Snarf_> Excellent. Thanks everyone!
[19:55] <lock> snarf_: (not within another folder)
[19:55] <ks3> goltoof, Sorry, "+yy
[19:56] <lock> your welcome
[19:56] <embrik> Java_Guru, java version "1.6.0_18"
[19:56] <embrik> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.8.1) (6b18-1.8.1-0ubuntu1)
[19:56] <planttt> scottmaccal, amazon EC2
[19:56] <Java_Guru> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[19:56] <Java_Guru> DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04
[19:56] <Java_Guru> DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid
[19:56] <Java_Guru> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS"
[19:56] <FloodBot4> Java_Guru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:56] <laler> scottmaccal, hack a box and take over
[19:56] <Java_Guru> embrik, Wow your Java seriously needs updating
[19:56] <noob-tux> is ther a way to open regedit in ubuntu? i just need to access a folder HKEY_CURRENT_USER
[19:56] <planttt> scottmaccal, what's reasonable?
[19:56] <ks3> goltoof, "+p will paste from the clipboard
[19:56] <DrManhattan> scottmaccal, I think you can do that with the google cloud
[19:56] <embrik> Java_Guru, ok?
[19:56] <Maahes> Where do I go to edit kernel options? i.e.: i8042.nomux ?
[19:56] <c3l> what could the problem be if my computer is having problems booting, and doing memory checks crashes the computer (it suddenly just shuts down)
[19:56] <scottmaccal> planttt: I knew you were going to ask that.
[19:56] <sresu> nothingspecial: Can this help? - <sudo apt-get install libsox-fmt-all>
[19:56] <DrManhattan> or the amazon cloud, sorry
[19:57] <Maahes> noob-tux: regedit
[19:57] <embrik> Java_Guru, I use 10.04 and upgrades whenever I have time for it
[19:57] <ks3> goltoof, From within vim, do :help x11-selection for more information
[19:57] <goltoof> ks3  :S   not working for me..  when i his + it just jumps me somewhere, never says it yanked anything
[19:57] <planttt> scottmaccal, if you are in .nl i could give you a reasonable offer
[19:57] <zcat[1]> noob-tux:  gconf-editor is probably about as near as you'll get
[19:57] <noob-tux> Maahes: regedit in ubuntu is regedit.exe and there's no way i can open .exe file in ubuntu
[19:57] <nothingspecial> sresu: That`s the one although I thought it was libsox-fmt-mp3
[19:57] <ks3> goltoof, No, preface with ", so "+yy, the quote is needed
[19:57] <Maahes> noob-tux: install wine.
[19:57] <scottmaccal> planttt: I had trouble really determining what kind of cost I would occur just as an individual and not a business.
[19:58] <Jordan_U> embrik: Do you know many people who encounter java applets regularly? I thought most things that would have used java applets have moved to flash / javascript instead.
[19:58] <planttt> scottmaccal, probably the same
[19:58] <zcat[1]> Ohh.. you're trying to fix a 'doze machine from ubuntu?
[19:58] <sresu> nothingspecial: It doesn't help either
[19:58] <Java_Guru> embrik, There is a command to remove OpenJDK from your Ubuntu Linux system it is sudo apt-get autoremove openjdk-6-jre
[19:58] <scottmaccal> with EC2.
[19:58] <planttt> scottmaccal, as an individual, I'd set it up at home or a friend's place (if no decent ISP available at home)
[19:58] <Maahes> goltoof: yanking lines to system clipboard: "+y(motion,y,i,etc.)
[19:58] <goltoof> ks3,  i want to yank 30 lines... so 30"+yy   ?
[19:58] <crankharder> could someone please pastbin the sources.list that has "source" repository lines in it?
[19:58] <nothingspecial> sresu: You have to edit some file, something about debian rules, I`m trying to remeber
[19:58] <lock> noob-tux: if you have windows and ubuntu on a dual boot, you should be able to access the windows filesystem from ubuntu, but as far as regedit, your out of luck.  You will just have to navigate to the appropriate folder and be careful
[19:58] <zcat[1]> I don't think running regedit in wine is going to help in the least
[19:59] <Java_Guru> embrik, are you on a 64 bit computer or a 32 bit computer ?
[19:59] <ks3> goltoof, Probably? Don't use the command much myself, so try it out. If not, perhaps "30+yy or similar.
[19:59] <sresu> nothingspecial: $ sox -m Finaljpwhiting.mp3 trimAE.mp3 Final.mp3
[19:59] <sresu> sox FAIL formats: can't open output file `Final.mp3': SoX was compiled without MP3 encoding support
[19:59] <scottmaccal> planttt: I might have to go that route. I'm not in .nl, but thanks for the offer. :-)
[19:59] <zcat[1]> You could run one of the many offline registry editors... ntpasswd I think would do it.
[19:59] <embrik> Java_Guru, our local bank, which everyone use, doesn't work on other than sun-java :-( (32 bit) - thanks for the sudo apt-get
[19:59] <ntr0py> Is there a way to mount a remote filesystem via SCP (NOT SFPT) in Ubuntu?
[20:00] <lock> scottmaccal: have you ever heard of the LogMeIn service?
[20:00] <planttt> ntr0py, sshfs
[20:00] <scottmaccal> lock: yes.
[20:00] <goltoof> ks3,  yea tried all different combos, still nada
[20:00] <goltoof> checking the help file
[20:00] <lock> scottmaccal: im not sure if they have linux support but that is about the cheapest and easiest way to remote in...
[20:00] <ntr0py> planttt: sshfs uses sftp asfaik, but i need scp...
[20:00] <zcat[1]> rofl.. Indian guys calling and saying they're from MSFT and my computer has a virus, that's all I know about logmein ...
[20:01] <embrik> Java_Guru, veeery old, HP pentium 4
[20:01] <planttt> ntr0py, same same
[20:01] <nothingspecial> sresu: remove sox, then reinstall it, you may have to have the libsox-fmt-mp3 before it builds
[20:01] <pkkm> erUSUL, I unloaded the driver and the port still doesn't work.
[20:01] <POVaddct> hi
[20:01] <zcat[1]> I thought SSH was the easiest and cheapest wat to remote..
[20:01] <scottmaccal> lock: thanks.
[20:01] <Java_Guru> embrik, so you would go to this website and download the Java JDK and the Java JRE for your system http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html
[20:02] <zcat[1]> Well, cheapest .. takes adding a package and some port forwarding I guess
[20:02] <POVaddct> how do i edit which binary/tool is called when gnome power management calls "suspend"
[20:02] <everyrainyday> can i share a path from my widows and ubuntu throw VM?
[20:02] <sresu> nothingspecial: Or will encoding it to .wav will help?
[20:02] <POVaddct> i want to use s2ram instead of standard acpi tools
[20:02] <Java_Guru> embrik, make sure you download the 32bit version of Java JDK and Java JRE
[20:02] <planttt> everyrainyday, yes
[20:02] <embrik> Java_Guru, thanks a lot :-)
[20:03] <industrial> I am trying out ubuntu-network-edition on my desktop now and I have some questions; What application is the icon with the cloud in the top bar on the right? I don't want to use desktop applications for twitter and facebook etc. I want it gone. I have firefox open with tabs for those applications all day. Same with GMAIL and the mail button. How do I remove the mail button?
[20:03] <ntr0py> planttt: i dont think scp and sftp is the same protocol
[20:03] <noob-tux> i was booting ubuntu using cd....from my laptop.....trying to remove the virus who can i access regedit folders? thanx
[20:03] <everyrainyday> how :D
[20:03] <nothingspecial> sresu: I`d try reinstalling first. I think it may work...... memories..... I haven`t used propper ubuntu for a while
[20:04] <planttt> ntr0py, okay, maybe not, but are you sure the SCP host you try to connect to doesn't work woth sshfs?
[20:04] <dajhorn> industrial: That is the Indicator Applet.  Just right-click it and remove it.
[20:04] <Java_Guru> embrik, you need this Java SE Development Kit 6u22
[20:04] <Java_Guru>  jdk-6u22-linux-i586.bin and this 	 Java SE Runtime Environment 6u22
[20:04] <Java_Guru>  jre-6u22-linux-i586.bin
[20:04] <sresu> nothingspecial: No, still didn't work. But you were of great help. I'll see what I can do. :
[20:04] <sresu> )
[20:04] <zcat[1]> noob-tux:  I just remove all the infected EXE's and DLL's, then clean up the registry afterwards using ccleaner
[20:04] <xangua> industrial: google is your friend http://maketecheasier.com/unlock-gnome-panel-in-ubuntu-netbook-edition-une/2010/04/25
[20:04] <industrial> dajhorn: this will also remove my volume. I want to keep my volume but not the mail icon.
[20:04] <Java_Guru> embrik, don't download the java that has rpm in it
[20:05] <Maahes> goltoof: best thing I've found for editing the registry from ubuntu: http://lifehacker.com/5584762/edit-the-windows-registry-from-a-linux-thumb-drive
[20:05] <Jordan_U> embrik: Have you tried installing Oracle java from Applications > Ubuntu Software Center? If that works it's the preffered way to go (rather than using Oracle's installer).
[20:05] <Maahes> errr noob-tux even see above
[20:05] <xangua> !java | embrik
[20:05] <Java_Guru> xangua, he doesnt need that
[20:05] <pkkm> I can't write to the LPT port (both as normal user and root). I tried many tools, made C and Perl programs, and nothing worked. The LPT port's data outputs are in state 255 no matter how I try to write. Loading/unloading lp, ppdev, parport and parport_pc doesn't help. I'm using Ubuntu Lucid. How to enable LPT?
[20:06] <dajhorn> industrial: You'll need to find alternative gnome widgets for the things that the Indicator Applet provides.  This is an Ubuntu thing that is somewhat difficult to get around.
[20:06] <sresu> nothingspecial: It works for .wav. But kinda complete mixture not one after another
[20:06] <ntr0py> planttt: yes i am, because its dropbear server on a router which i cant get working with sshfs because dropbear doesnt support sftp... Using winscp with scp protocol works fine, but i need a linux mount option for dropbear (using scp).
[20:07] <nothingspecial> sresu: Yeah just tried it myself on my wifes netbook, google sox debian rules, I got to go, kids bath then bed
[20:07] <Java_Guru> Ubuntu teaches the wrong way to install Java on Ubuntu Linux
[20:07] <planttt> ntr0py, have you looked into rcp with encryption, as scp is based on rcp ?
[20:07] <oracle> can i dualboot when im using encrypted volumes?
[20:07] <Maahes> goltoof: you might also try 30"*yy you can do :reg to see if it's actually copying into the buffer
[20:07] <oracle> can i install ań operating system at a later time if i do this?
[20:07] <industrial> dajhorn: :( default GNOME has just a volume thing for the tray, just like there is one active for eth0; This is _removed_ in ubuntu?
[20:08] <Maahes> Where do I go to edit kernel options? i.e.: i8042.nomux ?
[20:08] <industrial> also, there's no 'Settings' for the indicator applet? I can't configure it at all?
[20:09] <industrial> would be nice to be able to add/remove items in there..
[20:09] <tdhz77> Need help connecting an LG Sentio with Meerkat 10.10
[20:09] <ks3> Maahes, /etc/default/grub. Run update-grub afterwards.
[20:09] <dajhorn> industrial: Yes, this what Ubuntu provides.
[20:09] <ntr0py> panttt: no i havent where can i find rcp with encryption mount information?
[20:09] <industrial> sigh...
[20:09] <industrial> going in the wrong direction.
[20:09] <industrial> imho
[20:09] <industrial> but hey who am i
[20:09] <industrial> :D
[20:09] <FloodBot4> industrial: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:09] <recon69_lap> seem to have a intermittent recurring bug that allow a window to trap all left clicks even if they happen outside that window.
[20:10] <planttt> ntr0py, i am just guessing trying to give you pointers. Google is your friend for the details.
[20:10] <planttt> ntr0py, look into FUSE also, if you have some programming experience in C, it is almost trivially easy to create your own filesystem
[20:10] <dajhorn> industrial: Debian upstream doesn't impose this yet.  With enough work, you could probably clobber it.
[20:10] <Jordan_U> recon69_lap: Does the focus change if you use alt+tab?
[20:11] <industrial> dajhorn: why remove items from upstream though... I mean.. I should be able to get the default gnome experience aswell?
[20:11] <RealKillaz_> I have a problem with the ubuntu 10.04 LTS server. When I boot the server gives an error and then go into the initramfs command line....
[20:11] <blemish> Maahes: see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - the #
[20:11] <blemish> *
[20:11] <blemish> #
[20:11] <blemish> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT setting
[20:11] <FloodBot4> blemish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <RealKillaz_> after a Ctrl+D or exit it continues
[20:11] <evon> How do mount an SMB network drive to a folder?
[20:11] <dajhorn> industrial: Closer to a default install.  I agree that the 'X' bubble is somewhat ugly.
[20:11] <recon69_lap> Jordan_U: it dose, and i can get right clicks, just cant change window using the mouse. just cant really use the mouse
[20:11] <planttt> evon: elaborate
[20:12] <Trolly666> HEY FRESH UBUNTUS!
[20:12] <Trolly666> YOU ALL HAVE TO JOIN #defocus-de!
[20:12] <Trolly666> #defocus-de
[20:12] <Trolly666> #defocus-de
[20:12] <evon> planttt. It's that hard?
[20:12] <Trolly666> #defocus-de
[20:12] <FloodBot4> Trolly666: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:12] <RealKillaz_> I see the following error: sdb: unknown partition table
[20:12] <ntr0py> planttt: thx, i am googling already, but it told me rcp is the predecessor to scp which works for copying single files to the server, but im searching a mount option for the remote filesystem...
[20:12] <Jordan_U> industrial: There is nothing removed. You can install other notification systems.
[20:12] <erUSUL> evon: mount -t cifs -o options server/share folder
[20:12] <planttt> evon. no. I just don't understand the question. 'mounting' is *always* done on a 'folder' (directory).
[20:12] <erUSUL> evon: man mount.cifs
[20:12] <industrial> Jordan_U: there is no volume anything in 'Add to Panel'
[20:13] <recon69_lap>  Jordan_U:  I had to ctrl-alt-f6 or somthing to get to a terminal and back again to reset it and use the mouse
[20:13] <planttt> ntr0py, you really need a mount, no possibility for scripts?
[20:13] <dajhorn> industrial: Note that Ubuntu provides the "Indicator Applet Session" and the "Indicator Applet", which has the sound control.
[20:13] <Jordan_U> recon69_lap: What windows manager are you using?
[20:13] <Maahes> thankyou ks3 blemish
[20:13] <planttt> ntr0py, or other mount options? rcp, nfs, cifs, etc?
[20:13] <dajhorn> industrial: You might get what you want by removing the "Session" widget.
[20:13] <Jordan_U> recon69_lap: s/windows/window
[20:13] <evon> plantt. Right now i can access that network folder via clicking on network in nautilus. I want to be able to just click on a folder of my choosing.
[20:14] <planttt> ah
[20:14] <recon69_lap>  Jordan_U: Gnome 2.30.2
[20:14] <Maahes> err, running update-grub returns: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[20:14] <planttt> evon: read the 'mount' manpage. But in short it's 'mount -t smbfs \\\\IPADDRESS\\SHARE /folder/of/your/choosing'
[20:14] <Maahes> I am running from a live usb, just fyi
[20:15] <evon> planttt perfect thanks
[20:15] <Jordan_U> Maahes: To run update-grub from a LiveCD you'll need to chroot into the installed system first.
[20:15] <planttt> evon, or there is some kind of 'Connect network drive' somewhere
[20:15] <blemish> Maahes: try with sudo
[20:15] <ntr0py> planttt: yes i need to mount option, and i prefer not to run an extra server for it because i have very limited memory on my remote host. As winscp works fine with my configuration and scp comes from *nix bg i thought it cant be too difficult to mount it...
[20:15] <recon69_lap>  Jordan_U: this has happened a few time,lazily I have resorted to rebooting to get control back. but noticed it as a rare but serious issue
[20:16] <Jordan_U> recon69_lap: Are you using compiz or metacity?
[20:16] <Maahes> Jordan_U: no, I'm wanting to add that option to the liveusb, not the disk, blemish i used sudo
[20:16] <planttt> ntr0py, what do you offer to create a scpfs ?
[20:16] <sartan> hey folk, i'm wondering if there are ubuntu packages for cross-compiling i386-elf stuff? i'm building my own toolchain right now but there must be a better way.
[20:16] <Cyanide> i have a problem with logitec orbicam on 10.10 64bit
[20:16] <sartan> i'm on x86_64 right now and i don't have i386 dev stuff, regardless of whatever i apt-get install gcc and binutils stuff
[20:17] <Jordan_U> Maahes: The liveUSB uses syslinx not grub (though you can install grub instead if you want).
[20:17] <RealKillaz_> is their an ubuntu-server specific channel?
[20:17] <recon69_lap> Jordan_U: you got me there, just have visual effects set to normal
[20:17] <planttt> sartan no i386 target available there?
[20:17] <ntr0py> planttt: i am not sure what you mean by offer, my remote box runs uclibc openwrt and my local desktop box ubuntu x64
[20:17] <sartan> neg planttt
[20:17] <erUSUL> sartan: libc6-dev-i386 ?
[20:17] <evon> planttt:  Like this "sudo mount -t smbfs \\\\192.168.0.10\\home\\smith2\megadisk /home/evon/mediafiles"?
[20:17] <hawlp> can someone plz help me? with java in my Ubuntu 10.10 ? :(
[20:18] <erUSUL> !java | hawlp
[20:18] <Jordan_U> recon69_lap: That means you're using compiz. Try setting it to "none" and see if the problem still comes up.
[20:18] <sartan> i'll try that erUSUL
[20:18] <planttt> ntr0py, i meant you pay me money to create it :P.
[20:18] <industrial> dajhorn, Jordan_U; got what I wanted by removeing indicator-session/me/messages and restarting gnome-panel
[20:18] <recon69_lap> Jordan_U: ok.
[20:18] <planttt> evon: yes
[20:19] <industrial> cheers :)
[20:19] <sartan> aparently it's also installing gcc-4.4-multilib... this seems promising =)
[20:19] <cousteau> can this be considered a bug? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577781 - gksu doesn't work on an Ubuntu installed from minimal cd, you have to manually check /apps/gksu/sudo-mode
[20:19] <planttt> sartan, VM ?
[20:19] <erUSUL> evon: use cifs; smbfs is going the way of the dodo « mount -t cifs //server/share /dir -o user=username,otheroptions »
[20:19] <marco78> Hi, its seems impossible to get "xubuntu-9.10-src.iso" from somewhere in the planet, is there a really reason?
[20:19] <sartan> planttt: that's what i've been doing in the past, but i'd like to know how to do it properly.
[20:19] <planttt> sartan what's improper about a VM?
[20:19] <erUSUL> !eol | marco78
[20:19] <Jordan_U> Maahes: What is your end goal with this live system? If you have enough space you might be happier doing a normal install.
[20:20] <sartan> planttt: it's kind of a hog, when i'd rather not maintain an entire vm just to compile busybox.
[20:20] <echo310infantry> how many operating systems per hdd or it never matters?
[20:20] <planttt> sartan, you get a free testing platform with it
[20:20] <cousteau> 9.10 is still supported, I think
[20:20] <ntr0py> planttt: u mean there is no other option than writing fuse module for mounting it? i heard of shfs, but it seems abandoned...
[20:20] <DIL> test
[20:20] <planttt> sartan, hm. i'd say it is easier. crosscompiling is a bitch. having a VM is not so much work, and with harddisks these days
[20:21] <dajhorn> ntr0py: Dropbear doesn't have the feature that you want.  If you have an OpenWRT build with ipkg, then the easy solution is to install OpenSSH.
[20:21] <planttt> ntr0py, i don't know. I'd reckon there is a scpfs module out there somewhere. Or maybe sshfs has scp options.
[20:21] <evon> erUSUL: mount -t cifs //smith2-desktop/home/smith2/megadisk /home/evon/mediafiles -o user=username,otheroptions?
[20:22] <Jordan_U> echo310infantry: There is no hard limit, though there are cetain things that will make it harder.
[20:22] <echo310infantry> is there a reason to not have 3 operating systems on one hdd?
[20:22] <evon> erUSUL: I don't understand the username options part
[20:22] <meoblast001> hi
[20:22] <bluj> echo310infantry, sucks if your hdd goes? i suppose..
[20:22] <dajhorn> echo310infantry: No, but many operating systems assume that they are on a primary partition.
[20:22] <erUSUL> evon: well you have to put something sensible instead of username and otheroptions
[20:22] <Jordan_U> echo310infantry: Having 3 OSs on a hard drive is fairly common.
[20:22] <meoblast001> i have an original iPod Shuffle, and Ubuntu 10.04.... i think this release may have broken support, but i'm not sure
[20:22] <Maahes> Jordan_U: I cannot install. I don't own a working computer right now. I am using a live USB, on a small USB.
[20:22] <echo310infantry> ok thank you all
[20:22] <echo310infantry> i was worried
[20:22] <erUSUL> evon: see « man mount.cifs »
[20:23] <evon> erUSUL. I don't understand this man mount.cifs thing
[20:23] <evon> erUSUL. I don't understand your other comment either
[20:23] <erUSUL> evon: is the documentation on how to mount a windows share
[20:24] <evon> erUSUL. ok i will look it up
[20:24] <dajhorn> evon: Is there a reason why you are doing this at a terminal prompt and not through Places -> Connect To Server?
[20:24] <evon> erUSUL. Thanks
[20:24] <tdhz77> Nevermind
[20:25] <evon> dajhorn, Other programs don't seem to have the option to explore network drives. but if i mount it to a directory, they will find it just fine
[20:25] <dajhorn> evon: Check the $HOME/.gvfs directory for a hidden mount point.
[20:26] <Pa^2> I want to disable Rhythmbox and Shotwell from strating when I plug in my iPhone.  Where do I look for those controls?
[20:26] <Vogg> back again - i managed to get xchat installed - and even connected to an IRC server but.. I am unable to join any channels ??? can any one help thanks ?
[20:26] <meoblast001> i'm going to reboot into an older kernel
[20:26] <meoblast001> i think the problem lies at kernel level
[20:26] <planttt> Vogg: yes you can.
[20:26] <num8er> hi
[20:26] <num8er> I've problem with xubutu
[20:26] <Jordan_U> Maahes: You'll want to edit the syslinux config, which IIRC is in /syslinux/txt.cfg.
[20:26] <erUSUL> Pa^2: in nautilus preferences
[20:26] <num8er> need an asistance
[20:27] <evon> dajhorn: then what would i do
[20:27] <Pa^2> ty
[20:27] <Vogg> planttt; i try /join #channel (ubuntu etc) but nothing happens
[20:27] <hawlp> someone help me :(
[20:27] <Jordan_U> Maahes: Note that that path is relative to the root of the fat32 partition on the flash drive though, not what you see as '/' when you're booted.
[20:27] <planttt> Vogg. You *are* on the ubuntu channel now
[20:27] <erUSUL> evon: if you use Places -> Connect To Server then the share will appear to other programs in  ~/.gvfs/
[20:27] <xangua> !ask | num8er hawlp
[20:27] <Vogg> planttt; i am here via windows m8 .. not ubuntu
[20:27] <dajhorn> evon:  Non-GNOME programs can see the CIFS mount point in the .gvfs folder.
[20:27] <erUSUL> evon: ~ is your home folder
[20:27] <lessy> guys, i'm trying to install the sims 3 in ubuntu but for some reason when I put the DVD in i only get the mac OS disc contents.  please advise.
[20:28] <num8er> ok
[20:28] <xangua> !appdb | lessy
[20:28] <evon> erUSUL dajhorn, so i have to unhide the directory first so i can explore it with other programs?
[20:28] <dajhorn> evon: If you want the cifs mount to be persistent, then you need to do it the way that erUSUL suggested.
[20:28] <hawlp> lessy you are using wine right?
[20:28] <lessy> xangua, i don't think you understand my issue.
[20:28] <planttt> Vogg and no error messages in the server tab?
[20:28] <lessy> this isn't a wine problem.
[20:28] <Maahes> Jordan_U:  Thankyou :)
[20:29] <lessy> this is ubuntu mounting the disc in macosx mode.
[20:29] <hawlp> then what is it lessy?
[20:29] <erUSUL> evon: why? hidden is not the same as inaccessible. you can see hidden files in nautilus doing crtl + h
[20:29] <num8er> I've got a problem with internet. I connect to my wifi router, work in internet 5 min and suddenly internet does goes, but locally i can enter modems admin panel
[20:29] <lessy> hawlp, i've told you twice now.
[20:29] <evon> erUSUL dajhorn, ok i get it now nvm
[20:29] <Vogg> planttt; i get the connected message but no MOTD and I cannot join any channels : when i type /join #channel nothing happens - if i just type hello or something i get a message saying try joining a channel ..
[20:30] <planttt> Vogg. soory. no idea. XChat always worked fined here. Perhaps you could try to use another IRC clinet
[20:30] <hawlp> java
[20:30] <dajhorn> lessy: Discs for Mac often have two filesystems:  An HFS filesystem and an ISO9660 filesystem.  Try forcing the filesystem type to iso9660 with the -t parameter at a terminal prompt.
[20:30] <planttt> sumatra
[20:30] <num8er> I mean internet does not work, but local network works, internet on other pcs are working e
[20:30] <meoblast001> i can't select kernel version at startup
[20:30] <num8er> excepts mine
[20:31] <planttt> num8er, perhaps your default route gets fried
[20:31] <lessy> dajhorn, that will work even with a UFS disc?
[20:31] <planttt> num8er, what does 'route' tell you?
[20:31] <num8er> nothing
[20:31] <dajhorn> lessy: Just try it.
[20:31] <grobda24> Can I replace Nautilus. It causes me MISERY on things like browser file select dialogs in large directories. Please help !
[20:31] <lessy> dajhorn, trying now.
[20:32] <blakkheim> grobda24: yes
[20:32] <num8er> planttt, nothing
[20:32] <planttt> num8er, then that's it. There should be a 'default' route with your router as its gateway
[20:32] <xangua> grobda24: use any file browser you want
[20:32] <planttt> num8er, probably NetworkManager is screwing it up
[20:32] <num8er> planttt, all settings are static
[20:32] <grobda24> xangua, will it replace as system file browser - for File-Open in Firefox for example ?
[20:32] <num8er> planttt, so how 2 fix it?
[20:33] <area51pilot> copy files to a share on a Windows server, I get an invalid argument while copying file, but when I select "Cancel" the file IS there.... what is caausing this error? very annoying on multiple file xfers
[20:33] <erUSUL> grobda24: file open dialog is a gtk thing. no nautilus
[20:33] <planttt> num8er, read up on routing and try to fiddle with your network settings
[20:33] <num8er> planttt, also i must say that other computers are working with internet with no problem
[20:33] <num8er> planttt, before updating to 10.10
[20:33] <planttt> num8er, i know. AIS, it is the route in your local host that is screwed up
[20:34] <linxeh> is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 from an ISO of 10.10?
[20:34] <erUSUL> area51pilot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/220434
[20:34] <num8er> planttt, before updating to 10.10 it was working
[20:34] <xangua> linxeh: if that iso is the !alternate then yes
[20:34] <erUSUL> linxeh: the alternatecd iso can be used for that
[20:34] <linxeh> ah yeah of course
[20:34] <linxeh> doh, nm I'll just reinstall it :)
[20:34] <Vogg> hello ~ i managed to successfully install xchat on ubuntu1004 and have successfully connected to irc.freenode.net/6667 - however i can not join any channels or get a channel list or even get MOTD - Can any1 help thanks.
[20:34] <grobda24> erUSUL, why does it have all my Nautilus shortcuts in it then ?
[20:34] <num8er> planttt, what you offer 2 do?
[20:35] <xangua> Vogg: you are on freenode.......you are on #ubuntu in freenode
[20:35] <xangua> ¿¿
[20:35] <Vogg> xangua; i am here via windows noit ubuntu
[20:35] <linxeh> also, is there a way to change the touch sensitivity of the trackpad? in ubuntu the trackpad requires much more pressure to respond than in OSX or in Windows7
[20:35] <num8er> planttt, 192.168.100.253 is my routers ip, 192.168.100.88 is mine
[20:35] <dajhorn> Vogg:  Try port 7070 instead of port 6667.
[20:36] <erUSUL> grobda24: well you and others surely appreciate the consistency; don't you ?
[20:36] <SorayaUbuntu> how can i make mi ipod just mount and not open rythmbox
[20:36] <num8er> planttt, wifi settings: hidden mode with mac filtering
[20:36] <lessy> dajhorn, says wrong FS type.
[20:37] <nnoeonn> A question for ya guys, i got a lenovo t60 with x1400, can't seem to find a good way to install drivers, is there even any good ones? xD
[20:37] <Djokera> hello there. anybody familiar with irc-ratbox? i need help urgwntly
[20:37] <Djokera> urgently*
[20:37] <dajhorn> lessy: Okay. Way-back-in-the-day, you needed to pass a loop offset to the `mount` command to get into the second filesystem on a CD-ROM for Mac computers.  You'll probably need to do a web search for it.
[20:37] <Vogg> dajhorn; i am here on port 6667 and under ubuntu i connect to the server .. but for some reason xchat is not speaking to the server correctly (perhaps char-set) and so i cannot join any channels
[20:38] <planttt> num8er, and you routing table?
[20:38] <lessy> dajhorn, i've been googling.  no dice.
[20:38] <dajhorn> Vogg:  That doesn't change my advice. Try port 7070.
[20:38] <OerHeks> Vogg disable this irc chat, so chanel 6667 is free for your ubuntu
[20:39] <Vogg> OerHeks; i have to reboot to load ubuntu/xchat so it is of no consequence
[20:39] <dajhorn> lessy: Search for the phrase "mac hybrid mount".  http://www.64lines.com/mounting-hfs-plus
[20:41] <Mullvaden> Hi, I installed ubuntu for around 30 min ago but I dont get a chanse to boot it, I get the message "Pointer to flat panel table invalid", What have I done wrong ?
[20:41] <karni> I agreed to re-install windows on my sisters friends laptop. I already regret that :< Uninstalling that toshiba crapware takes ages..
[20:41] <planttt> Haha. guess num8er fixed his routing table....
[20:42] <sartan> lol. I'm just going to install an i386 centos install for builds. I give up. I've been at this for days. GCC won't compile. Screw it =)
[20:42] <sartan> need to compile gcc-i386 to compile i386. =) ack! How did the first developers ever get anything done
[20:42] <karni> Mullvaden: sartan :D
[20:42] <karni> Mullvaden: sry, wrong tab ;d
[20:43] <karni> sartan: ;D
[20:43] <Mullvaden> karni: haha =P
[20:43] <karni> sartan: I wonder if C compiler was written in C
[20:43] <erUSUL> sartan: gcc -m32 ?
[20:43] <dobreira> Hey everyone, quick, vague question - is there anything I should worry about when installing ubuntu on a 1998 imac?
[20:43] <linxeh> Mullvaden: likely you did nothing wrong, and it is a fault of your hardware, or some drive
[20:44] <Djokera> some help about irc-ratbox needed here ... :)
[20:44] <planttt> dobreira, no! go for it!
[20:44] <linxeh> Mullvaden: what hardware
[20:44] <meoblast001> i wish i could snap an iPod with my hands
[20:44] <dobreira> planttt: is it straight-forward to dual-boot with the original mac os?
[20:44] <nothingspecial> sraue: I think I got it, hang on
[20:44] <karni> meoblast001: will it blend ;) ?
[20:44] <shebang_wafflesa> dobreira: maybe, check the project page (assuming that there is one)
[20:44] <sartan> erUSUL: no luck it's looking for /usr/bin/i386-linux-gnu-gcc
[20:44] <dobreira> I have little experience with ubuntu, and even less with macintosh computers
[20:44] <erUSUL> dobreira: you would need a lighter distro if you plan to run it in a 12 years old machine
[20:44] <linxeh> Djokera: really? I'd never have guessed. if you aren't getting help its because 1) people here that are active can't help 2) people that know are asleep 3) nobody has heard of irc-ratbox
[20:44] <sartan> i need to -m32 and -target i think. I'm just going to move on
[20:44] <planttt> dobreira, no idea. that wasn;t the question
[20:45] <sraue> nothingspecial, what you mean?
[20:45] <sartan> planttt: was right with his first recommendation
[20:45] <dajhorn> dobreira: Not really.  You'll probably need to learn some Open Firmware commands.
[20:45] <meoblast001> karni: if i can't get this thing working in a good 15 minutes somehow, i think i'm going to take it out to the driveway and show it what i think about Apple
[20:45] <sartan> i'm just being lazy and have since deleted my 32bit box.
[20:45] <shebang_wafflesa> dobreira: yeah, Ubuntu on an olde iMac would CREEP
[20:45] <nothingspecial> sraue: I`m just compiling it, let me test it
[20:45] <shebang_wafflesa> older**
[20:45] <karni> meoblast001: ;) good luck, though.
[20:45] <meoblast001> i doubt i'll find luck unless i upgrade/downgrade my system
[20:45] <dobreira> heh, so maybe I should use some other lighter linux distro? The problem is the computer will be used by kids and non-tech-sawy people
[20:45] <sraue> nothingspecial, what you compile, you are sure you mean me?
[20:46] <lock> dobreira: try installing DSL linux distro...it is very small with very small requirements
[20:46] <xangua> !lubuntu | dobreira
[20:46] <nothingspecial> sraue: maybe not, sorry
[20:46] <erUSUL> dobreira: what are the specs of the machine? ram / cpu ?
[20:46] <dobreira> xangua: thank you, I'll look into it
[20:46] <dobreira> erUSUL: something like a 700mhz processor with 256mb ram
[20:46] <nothingspecial> sraue: sox?
[20:46] <planttt> meoblast001, what was the problem again?
[20:46] <dobreira> I don't have it here, but I remember it's around those specs
[20:46] <Djokera> linxeh, what? you don`t make typo`s ? of course i meant ircd-ratbox and everybody knows that
[20:47] <shebang_wafflesa> dobreira: you could try installing netbsd, debian, slackware, etc. Just expect to do alot of configring yourself
[20:47] <meoblast001> ever since i upgraded to 10.04 back in April, no media programs can detect my iPod
[20:47] <lock> dobreira: DSL is only 50 mb before installation, so it will run on pretty mujch any old machine
[20:47] <sraue> nothingspecial... dont think we have spoken together...
[20:47] <planttt> meoblast001, i just restored/reset/reformatted my ipod because rhythmbox rebooted it all the time
[20:47] <meoblast001> and i can't figure out how to boot with an older kernel because i don't even know what is going on with Grub now... so i can't test that
[20:47] <linxeh> Djokera: I've never heard of that :)
[20:47] <linxeh> Djokera: my point was that repeating every 30 seconds doesnt really help
[20:47] <lock> dobreira: and it still includes office processing woftware, along with games and other useful apps :)
[20:47] <nothingspecial> sraue: my fault, I appologise........ very similar nick
[20:47] <meoblast001> planttt: let me guess... you need iTunes for that...
[20:48] <dobreira> lock: thanks, will look into it aswell ;)
[20:48] <shebang_wafflesa> Dobreira: the thing you have to watch out for is if the port of the distro runs on PPC's
[20:48] <planttt> meoblast001, yup. i have a windows VM lying around for that stuff
[20:48] <sraue> nothingspecial no problem
[20:48] <linxeh> Djokera: you might be better off asking on efnet or something ?
[20:48] <tsunamie> help - this is starting to pee me off. when typing ulimit -Hn I get 1024. I have entered the following into "* - nofile 10240" /etc/security/limits.conf. why ar'nt the fil handelers increaing per user?
[20:48] <meoblast001> there is no way i'm installing iTunes
[20:48] <nothingspecial> sraue: sr TAB and all that, s/he seems to have left
[20:48] <planttt> meoblast001, then don't complain. I cannot have the cake and eat it, too.
[20:48] <linxeh> Djokera: http://www.ircd-ratbox.org/contact.ashtml
[20:48] <Djokera> i`m always saying something twice when i need help and especially at massive channels because it happens often nobody to see my question.
[20:49] <planttt> meoblast001, apple is closed. get used to it.
[20:49] <tsunamie> cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max gives me 100000. so I know there are enought file handelers on the system. why won't user limites increase?
[20:49] <Djokera> thank you and mind your attitude when trying to help - it does not make a good impression ...
[20:50] <Djokera> if they were not any requirements about ircd client when linking a server to a national network - I would never use linux ... it sux - the most unfriendly operating system in the world ... when it comes to ANYTHING ... they shall forbid it ... jeesh
[20:50] <planttt> Djokera, i don't think many really care. You need help, not them.
[20:50] <xangua> !attitude | Djokera
[20:51] <planttt> Djokera, talking about attitude
[20:51] <DirecTOR> Hello
[20:51] <Djokera> well he started 1st
[20:51] <tsunamie> hello
[20:51] <planttt> Djokera, you could be grown up about it.
[20:51] <DirecTOR> any rules here? about asking question
[20:51] <guntbert> Djokera: please drop that discussion
[20:51] <shebang_wafflesa> LOL, "they" should forbid it
[20:51] <guntbert> !ask | DirecTOR
[20:51] <planttt> DirecTOR, just ask.
[20:51] <tsunamie> ask away is generally the procedure
[20:51] <marco78> thats what i dont understand is why in this page (against all the others) is missing the "sources" directory ?
[20:51] <Djokera> why am i even talking to freaks ... what a pathetic excuse for an OS Linux is ... Linux developers should kill themselves ...
[20:52] <DirecTOR> !ask boxee
[20:52] <xangua> !ops | Djokera
[20:52] <marco78> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/9.10/release/
[20:52] <_hans> hey people, let's not feed the trolls
[20:52] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: People will be more than happy to help, just don;t be inflammatory
[20:52] <laler> its friday again
[20:52] <laler> trolls are out
[20:52] <tsunamie> so does anyone know why theFile Descriptors limits for users stays at 1024
[20:53] <Djokera> that ain`t true - i`ve been seeking help like for ages - and they all tried to tell me how good they are but they can`t help me
[20:53] <Djokera> what a shame ...
[20:53] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: Well what's your problem?
[20:53] <meoblast001> planttt: well, i don't think i'll be using it from this point forward ;)
[20:53] <goltoof> anyone else have trouble torifying freenode?  I tried the instructions here w/ irssi  http://pthree.org/2006/08/11/anonymity-and-freenode/
[20:53] <meoblast001> i messed it up pretty bad
[20:53] <goltoof> !anyone
[20:53] <OerHeks> Djokera, check the WineHQ database for iTunes, > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17774
[20:53] <goltoof> i get banned
[20:54] <grobda24> Does Maverick use Nautilus as the file manager ?
[20:54] <Djokera> iTunes? I never asked about iTunes
[20:54] <xangua> yes grobda24
[20:54] <goltoof> grobda24:  yup
[20:54] <alteregoa> if you like ubuntu, get an apple
[20:54] <planttt> grobda24, yes
[20:54] <Djokera> i got almost all mac products ...
[20:54] <DirecTOR> anyone using AC3/DTS in ubuntu?
[20:54] <guntbert> goltoof: freenode help in #freenode please
[20:54] <area51pilot> u got
[20:54] <laler> It's a good suggestion Djokera
[20:54] <grobda24> thanks
[20:54] <area51pilot> :P
[20:54] <Djokera> nobody even follows lol ...
[20:54] <laler> Itunes is great
[20:54] <planttt> Djokera, why are you here then?
[20:54] <goltoof> guntbert: roger roger
[20:54] <Darkonz> Free Megaupload, Rapidshare, Brazzers and other account here: http://tinyurl.com/freeaccountz  Enjoy guys
[20:54] <area51pilot> Djokera #Mac Heaven
[20:55] <tsunamie> I asked it - it was simply how to increase the fd's for users. as the guide I used does not seem to work. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-increase-the-maximum-number-of-open-files/
[20:55] <area51pilot> :P
[20:55] <_hans> tsunamie: here is another guide, i'm not sure if it works though, i haven't tried it: http://www.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~brecht/servers/openfiles.html
[20:56] <planttt> Djokera, no private please.
[20:56] <tsunamie> ty hans
[20:56] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokerra: Are you going to ask your question or not?
[20:56] <planttt> Djokera, if i understand correctly, you want to run an IRC daemon, which is only supported on Linux?
[20:57] <Djokera> yes
[20:57] <planttt> Djokera, do you have any experience in administering an IRC server?
[20:57] <Djokera> well i typed on private because i don`t want to bother the users with my stuff
[20:58] <Djokera> planttt, yes i do
[20:58] <planttt> Djokera, maybe these others could help as well
[20:58] <number_number> I want to be able to run a couple of packages without being asked for a root password... I know I can configure this from /etc/sudoers .. but I've already tried once and had to recover with the live cd! .. could anyone point me in the right direction?
[20:58] <Djokera> i seriously doubt
[20:58] <Djokera> about it
[20:58] <ArkAnGiCIA> unrealircd
[20:58] <planttt> Djokera, do you have any experience with Linux  ?
[20:58] <alkisg> number_number: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[20:58] <Djokera> poor
[20:58] <ArkAnGiCIA> it's a easy server
[20:59] <planttt> Djokera, which distro do you (need to) use?
[20:59] <ArkAnGiCIA> an
[20:59] <ArkAnGiCIA> pff
[20:59] <Djokera> ubuntu 9.04 - official distro sent to me by ubuntu blah blah blah
[20:59] <Djokera> ...
[20:59] <blakkheim> 9.04 is not supported anymore~
[20:59] <planttt> Djokera, and the IRC server you have to use?
[20:59] <xangua> Djokera: jaunty is no longer supported
[21:00] <Djokera> planttt, ircd-ratbox 3.0.6
[21:00] <erUSUL> number_number: to edit sudoer use allways visudo
[21:00] <planttt> Djokera, first off, that's a testing release, so I wouldn't use it
[21:01] <planttt> Djokera, *especially* not in a realworld setup
[21:01] <tsunamie> sorry hands
[21:01] <tsunamie> thats still not doing it foe me
[21:01] <tsunamie> it's preaty much the same guide thow
[21:01] <tsunamie> thanks anyway
[21:01] <mariella> hello
[21:01] <tsunamie> *~Hans
[21:01] <Djokera> ok how about a stable one? but it has to be irc-ratbox
[21:02] <planttt> Djokera, why does it have to be ratbox?
[21:02] <number_number> erUSUL: I did think of this shortly after the '>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 16 <<  ... and then I realised that ubuntu doesn't have a root account by default! :D
[21:02] <planttt> Djokera, 2.2.6 is in the repos
[21:03] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: it looks liek there's a package for ircd-ratbox in ubuntu
[21:03] <Djokera> didnt find help on their website ... not even a single hint ...
[21:03] <planttt> Djokera, read up a little on ubuntu and how to install software. ircd-ratbox is in the standard repository of software, which make it easy to install and administe
[21:04] <rawDawg> im trying to install ubuntu server 10.10 32bit on a very old server (IBM xseries 340) i keep getting error: on error returned while trying to install the kernel: linux-generic-pae
[21:04] <planttt> Djokera, true. the ratbox site doesn't show much, but Ubuntu took the program as part of their distribution
[21:04] <Djokera> yeah sure ... of course and why i don`t have to do it when using a normal OS?
[21:04] <blakkheim> "normal OS"
[21:04] <shebang_wafflesa> He obviously just watns to install it. Djokera, open Terminal and type sudo apt-get install ircd-ratbox or whatever the package is called
[21:05] <planttt> Djokera, it doesn't help if you talk like that. Linux just has a different approach on things.
[21:05] <planttt> ubuntu 10.10 has ratbox 3.0.6 in the repository
[21:05] <Djokera> different approach? i didn`t see an approach so far ... all i see is confusion
[21:05] <Djokera> thank you shebang_wafflesa  :)
[21:05] <shebang_wafflesa> planttt: i don't think he really cares to learn, he just wants his app to work
[21:05] <mariella> I've been running lucid 64 bit for a while and all went well till this summer: withan update my wireless card marvell 88w8335 that had been working fine with ndiswrapper stopped working and I can't see it anymore with iwconfig or ifconfig. It still works with Puppy linux or winxp 64
[21:05] <tsunamie> Hi Everyone, does anyone know how I can increase the size of the FD (file descripters) for user httpd.
[21:05] <tsunamie> I have done the following.
[21:05] <tsunamie> 1>vi /etc/sysctl.conf and apend fs.file-max = 100000 and reloaded using sysctl -p
[21:05] <shebang_wafflesa> djokera: no problem
[21:05] <tsunamie> I now get 100000 when I use cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[21:05] <FloodBot4> tsunamie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:05] <tsunamie> However when I check using ulimit -a
[21:05] <tsunamie> I get the following.
[21:05] <mariella> could someone help me?
[21:06] <planttt> Djokera, at least try to learn.
[21:06] <xangua> !enter > tsunamie
[21:06] <planttt> Djokera, once you get the hang of it, you'll be asking why others don't do it as well.
[21:07] <shebang_wafflesa> planttt: sometimes people need things to Just Work. There's nothing wrong with that
[21:07] <tsunamie> :(
[21:07] <blakkheim> until it breaks, then they will probably wish they had learned to use it
[21:08] <shebang_wafflesa> blakkheim: and that's the beauty of it, because then they'll have to learn
[21:08] <tsunamie> got disconnected
[21:08] <planttt> shebang_wafflesa, in Linux, stuff does 'just work'. But not in the way you were taught in highschool.
[21:08] <dajhorn> tsunamie: ulimits are often per session.   They may change if you logout and login.
[21:08] <tehnef> planttt, it "just works" once you edit that text file ;)
[21:08] <planttt> shebang_wafflesa, in fact, since i moved to Linux in 1999, stuff just works
[21:08] <dark3lf> Hello, is it very dangerous to surf the web in root ?
[21:08] <planttt> tehnef, FUD from the Slackware days.
[21:08] <goltoof> is there a cli file tree view like pstree?
[21:08] <tsunamie> In know, but I set it up on the conf file so it would occur every session
[21:08] <charley> ubuntu 10.10 my volume control disappeared, what's the process to get it back :D
[21:08] <xangua> !ot | planttt shebang_wafflesa
[21:09] <xangua> charley: just add the indicator applet to the panel
[21:09] <Djokera> shebang_wafflesa, what was the terminal command once again, I was updating and Ubuntu Restrted my PC ...
[21:09] <charley> thanks xangua
[21:09] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:    linux always assumes you know what you're doing
[21:09] <xangua> dark3lf: sure it is
[21:09] <tehnef> planttt: hey man, i loved my slackware
[21:09] <tehnef> planttt: and it really is still like that in a lot of cases.
[21:09] <sartan> this isn't fight club!
[21:09] <planttt> tehnef, me too. still have one running
[21:09] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Reboot if you're changing sysctls.
[21:09] <blakkheim> Djokera: man aptitude
[21:09] <tsunamie> already did that
[21:09] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: sudo apt-get install (package name here)
[21:09] <dark3lf> xangua: why ? what can happen ?
[21:10] <RealKillaz_> where can I see if something wrong happens during the boot>
[21:10] <Djokera> shebang_wafflesa, thank you onace again
[21:10] <RealKillaz_> ?
[21:10] <tsunamie> rebooted twice and the cat shows me that the max files are right
[21:10] <charley> xangua: hehe, I removed that and I didn't figure what I did ;D, thankyou
[21:10] <fabiobik> hi
[21:10] <rawDawg> i keep getting this error when trying to install ubuntu server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/530885/ please help!
[21:10] <goltoof> anyone know what i'm asking?  i want to view directories of files graphically like pstree.
[21:10] <RealKillaz_> right now my system hangs during startup... and I need to type Ctrl+D on the command line for it to continue
[21:10] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: and then type the admin password. It won't echo (show up on the screen) btw
[21:10] <tsunamie> ulimit -a open files                      (-n) 1024
[21:10] <RealKillaz_> Please your help
[21:10] <fabiobik> does ANYONE here have CS 1.6 non steam DEDICATED SERVER runing at UBUNTU SERVER 10.10?
[21:11] <tehnef> rawDawg: what does syslog say?
[21:11] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Check the /etc/login.defs file.   Your interactive user account profile is likely different than the apache daemon profile.
[21:11] <Djokera> shebang_wafflesa, can i bother you a bit on private?
[21:11] <charley> also, I'm wondering whether msn is working on empathy
[21:11] <charley> it doesn't seem to want to connect for me :)
[21:11] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: sure
[21:11] <fabiobik> does ANYONE here have CS 1.6 non steam DEDICATED SERVER runing at UBUNTU SERVER 10.10?
[21:11] <rawDawg> tehnef: i dont know how to check syslog
[21:12] <number_number> would this seem sensible to you chaps? is there a way of testing and debugging edits to the /etc/sudoers? "number number_home_server= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/vpnc,/usr/sbin/vpnc-disconnect"
[21:12] <blakkheim> !repeat | fabiobik
[21:12] <tsunamie> dajhorn - how do I reply to your messages in IRC?
[21:12] <tsunamie> like how you have messaged me
[21:12] <dajhorn> tsunamie: You are already doing it.
[21:12] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I see, I am not sure what to check in login.def
[21:12] <goltoof> !anyone
[21:12] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Most IRC clients go bing when they see your login name.
[21:13] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I see
[21:13] <Mocciani> hi there. I have just removed Windows 7 and installed UBUNTU desktop. Using a Belkin USB to connect wirelessly to my Belkin router. On the wireless icon (top right) it says connected but on Firefox it says cannot find Server no matter what site I try. Anyone?
[21:13] <dajhorn> dajhorn: The ulimit in your login session is probably different than the ulimit in the apache session.  Now that the sysctl.conf file is changed, check whether the apache process has a higher limit.
[21:13] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I I am not sure why I am looking in the login.def file, is there something I should be looking for
[21:14] <tsunamie> dajhorn - how do I check this?
[21:14] <apache7> ...
[21:14] <tehnef> rawDawg: sudo less -n 100 /var/log/syslog
[21:14] <dajhorn> tsunamie: The login.defs file also sets restrictions on user sessions that can affect the results of ulimit.
[21:14] <tehnef> rawDawg: then figure out what parts of that are relevant to what you're trying to do
[21:14] <blemish> Mocciani: make sure Firefox is not in off-line mode (File menu)
[21:14] <_hans> Mocciani: are you sure your router is connected to the internet?
[21:14] <tsunamie> dajhorn - as su ing to the user that starts apache does not seem to show the users FD's increased
[21:15] <Mocciani> _hans: Yes because I am now chatting to you using the macbook pro (using airport to access wirelessly to the router)
[21:15] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Let's backup momentarily.  Why is the default FD limit too low?  What gave you an error message?
[21:15] <rawDawg> ty tehnef
[21:15] <Mocciani> When I ping the router from the machine where UBUNTU is installed, nothing is received.
[21:15] <MaverikUser> Hello
[21:15] <planttt> Hi!
[21:15] <madsj> is emacs 23 the default version in ubuntu 10.10 ?
[21:15] <tehnef> Mocciani: do you have an IP on the ubuntu machine?
[21:16] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I am hitting my test webserver with a load of stuff and it's creating lots of temporary files. now wil ftping on it says that there are not enought file handlers
[21:16] <Mocciani> tehnef: Yes. I have assigned static ip and turned of DHCP
[21:16] <MaverikUser> I can not connect to MSN on Ubuntu, I've tryed using Amsn and Emesene but it does not work. On Windows I can connect to MSN normally
[21:16] <MaverikUser> what's the problem ?
[21:17] <dajhorn> tsunamie:  What is "wil ftping"?
[21:17] <tehnef> Mocciani: does it work with dhcp?
[21:17] <planttt> MaverikUser, pidgin works for me.
[21:17] <MaverikUser> I'll try pidgin ok
[21:17] <xangua> MaverikUser: latest stable version of emesene (1.6) and pidgin (2.7.5) work fine
[21:17] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I have increased the number the system has, however I noted that the user (httpd shell) still has 1024 when I look at cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[21:18] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: are you still there? My client set you to ignore
[21:18] <tsunamie> dajhorn - sorry thats suppose to say FTP'ing
[21:18] <Mocciani> tehnef: I haven't tried. I have disabled DHCP on the router, assigned static ip to the server and on the server the DHCP is disabled and I've assigned ip address for all pc and laptops in the flat.
[21:18] <Djokera> shebang_wafflesa, yes i am
[21:18] <Djokera> and i`m waiting ...
[21:18] <Djokera> :)
[21:18] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Are you in a virtual environment?   1024 is way too low for /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[21:18] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: i'm still figuring out how to use my IRC client
[21:19] <tehnef> Mocciani: sounds like you have a basic configuration issue. are you sure you assigned the correct IP and gateway?
[21:19] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I am using vmware esxi under ubuntu. however thats not the problem.if I cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max I get 1000000
[21:19] <Djokera> ok so basically i think i got ircd-ratbox installed already but it aint nowhere at the Applications List ...
[21:19] <Mocciani> tehnef: the gateway, I've assigned the router's IP and I have assigned the ip for this machine that I assigned from the server
[21:19] <Djokera> what do i do now?
[21:19] <tehnef> rawDawg: see any info there that will help you figure it out?
[21:20] <tsunamie> dajhorn - when I type in ulimit -Hn I get 1024
[21:20] <Djokera> ircd-ratbox is already the newest version.
[21:20] <Djokera>  - that`s what i get ...
[21:20] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: you should be able to launch it from the terminal
[21:20] <tsimpson> Djokera: is's not a GUI, it's command-line only
[21:20] <tehnef> Mocciani: what is "the server" and what do you mean by "the ip for this machine that i assigned from the server"?
[21:20] <Djokera> shebang_wafflesa,  and how do i do that?
[21:20] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: try typing the name of the command in the Terminal
[21:20] <planttt> Djokera, go read a linux-for-beginners-howto
[21:21] <Mocciani> tehnef: I have a mac mini server (running OS X) and that is connected to the router via ethernet
[21:21] <osmosis> how can I stop kvm and kvm_intel modules from loading at bootup?
[21:21] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Your system is busted if file-max is inconsistent or randomly changing.
[21:21] <Djokera> the name of which command?
[21:21] <MaverikUser> xangua: I have this error with emesene: Error during login, please retry (Connection problem: [Err,o 110] Connecton timed out)
[21:21] <tsunamie> :(
[21:21] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Check your sysctl.conf for typos.  1024 is way too low.  Is should be in the tens of thousands.
[21:21] <tehnef> osmosis: google blacklisting modules in modprobe.d
[21:21] <planttt> Djokera, rm -rf /
[21:21] <Mocciani> tehnef: as I'm trying to configure the server as a web server, I was told by apple tech team to disable dhcp and set static ip
[21:22] <Djokera> planttt, if i wanted to read i was gonna get a book wouldn't I ?
[21:22] <tsimpson> Djokera: don't run that
[21:22] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokerra: don't run what plant told you to run
[21:22] <tsunamie> dajhorn -  one sec
[21:22] <planttt> Sorry about that.
[21:22] <tsimpson> planttt: do not tell people to do that
[21:22] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokerra: try typing the name of the chat client that you installed
[21:22] <Djokera> yes i wont - i might not be familiar with linux but im not an idiot
[21:22] <Djokera> ...
[21:22] <ubuntu_> DJo
[21:22] <tehnef> Mocciani: that's a good practice, yes, but you don't have to disable dhcp on your router
[21:22] <tehnef> Mocciani: you can just manually specify on the server
[21:22] <gpled> anyone having trouble with the eject command?
[21:22] <planttt> tsimpson, yes. I typed a little too fast. Sorry again.
[21:23] <Djokera> planttt, if i wanted to read i was gonna get a book wouldn't I ?
[21:23] <shebang_wafflesa> planttt: i'm sure that's what that was
[21:23] <Djokera> OK then guys, how do i run the installed ircd-ratbox
[21:23] <Mocciani> tehnef: oh so you're saying that I should enable DHCP on the router and keep the manual settings the same on the server - is that right?
[21:23] <ubuntu_> plantt ppl like U give linux a bad name go use windows
[21:23] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: try typing ircd:ratbox in the Terminal
[21:23] <tehnef> Mocciani: it would make things easier for the rest of your network, yes.
[21:23] <planttt> Djokera, yes. Maybe you should.
[21:23] <tsunamie> dajhorn -  when typing "sysctl fs.file-max" I get  "fs.file-max = 100000"
[21:24] <tsunamie> dajhorn - this seems right to me
[21:24] <planttt> ubuntu_ I disagree.
[21:24] <blakkheim> Djokera: there are lots of good "ubuntu beginner" books online, maybe try one of them
[21:24] <xangua> Djokera: normally one comes here when he already have readed and searched for information, manuals, etc; not to be guide step by step like a baby or something
[21:24] <Mocciani> tehnef: ok I'll try that now. if I'm disconnected, I'll be back after undoing it
[21:24] <tehnef> planttt: uncool.
[21:24] <xangua> !manual | Djokera
[21:24] <ubuntu_> then stop telling noobs to  rm rf /
[21:24] <tsunamie> dajhorn - but when I type "ulimit -Hn" I get "1024"
[21:24] <shebang_wafflesa> planttt: take your trollish fanboyism somehwere else
[21:25] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Check your virtual machine for memory pressure.  You can get errors that seem to be handle shortages when the real problem is lack of regular memory.
[21:25] <shebang_wafflesa> Djokera: any luck?
[21:25] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Paravirt kernels can also be clamped by the host.  If this is a clean installation, then double-check the VMware configuration.
[21:25] <sosaited> I have Ubuntu 10.10 on Dell 1564. and I have 2 ext4 partitions (One of which is empty, other has Ubuntu) and two other NTFS partitions. After the initial install, I could see and mount all the drives normally in Places and Nautilus, but ext4 one would only mount read-only.
[21:26] <planttt> tehnef, I said sorry about the rm command. And I mean that. I was too fast. I do disagree that "people like me" give Linux a bad name. I tried to help the guy. I google his site, I checked synaptic. He needs to be taken by the hand. I think he should read a starter's guide and not ask inane questions here.
[21:26] <Mocciani> tehnef: by the way, if I enable DHCP on the router, does that mean that the server wont have a static internal IP?
[21:26] <embrik> four to five years ago I was a newbie - and I got a lot of help from this community - I thought then that in some years I may be able to help others on this channel - I haven't been very good at helping people here - but I do everything I can in my work (teacher) to help my colleauges and pupils - I think that your attitude and the free software communities' attitude has guided me and showed me the importance of helping each other in order to
[21:26] <embrik>  develop and go further. Thank you all persons on this channel using your free time to help others
[21:26] <sosaited> Now after a restart, I cant see them anywhere to mount
[21:26] <tsunamie> dajhorn - when you say check the vmware config. do you mean just check how much memory is avaiable?
[21:26] <tsunamie> because vsphear says 4gb
[21:26] <xTheGoat121x> I cannot delete the last panel, despite all the walkthroughs I've tried.
[21:26] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Dunno.  Check for anything that is non-default.
[21:26] <swim> i cannot get my windows to have space with compiz
[21:27] <shebang_wafflesa> plantt: i agree that he needs to learn some basics if he's going to run an IRC server on linux, but you should point hiuum to useful resources rather than being a troll. If he refuses to listen, don't help him
[21:27] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Well written software will ask Apache or the framework to do tmp handling.  If temporary files are choking the system, then you may also just have crappy software.
[21:27] <planttt> shebang_wafflesa, I did. I tried to help him.
[21:27] <Djokera> guys get over it - linux just sux ... i`m spending more time in searching for "how to do this and that" instead of doing it ... they should think about that. it`s pure waste of time and i won`t waste my time no more. Linux developers should think about that ...
[21:27] <shebang_wafflesa> Let's just try to forget about it
[21:28] <blakkheim> ahaha
[21:28] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I see
[21:28] <tehnef> Mocciani: no, if you specify the IP on the server, that's that
[21:28] <mariella> hello there
[21:28] <mariella> I'm not an expert of linux and I already tried with several Howto and searching forums to resolve the problem.
[21:28] <mariella> I've been running lucid 64 bit with grat satisfaction for a while and all went well till this summer: with an update my wireless card marvell 88w8335, that had been working fine with ndiswrapper, stopped working and I can't see it anymore with iwconfig or ifconfig. It still works with Puppy linux or winxp 64---I'm not an expert of linux and I already tried with several Howto and searching forums to resolve the problem.
[21:28] <mariella>  Could someone help me?
[21:28] <FloodBot4> mariella: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <tsunamie> dajhorn - I will check
[21:28] <Mocciani> tehnef: great. thanks.
[21:28] <embrik> Djokera: did you read what I just wrote?
[21:28] <tsunamie> dajhorn - thanks for all your help
[21:28] <dajhorn> tsunamie: To reiterate, login.defs is the place where you set ulimits globally (in most cases).
[21:28] <engemec> mariella: what's your problem?
[21:28] <tehnef> lol
[21:28] <swim> i can't get windows space on my 3d sphere with compiz
[21:28] <tsunamie> dajhorn - how do I set it in there to ulimit file handlers on all users?
[21:28] <mariella> sorry
[21:29] <tehnef> "Linux developers should think about that"
[21:29] <engemec> mariella: i'm reading.
[21:29] <dajhorn> tsunamie: I don't remember.  You'll need to read the man page and/or file comments.
[21:29] <hiexpo> !compiz
[21:29] <maria__> 101047
[21:29] <tehnef> some distros can be decent desktop environments...but in the end that's just not what "Linux" is targeted for
[21:30] <mariella> my wl network card marvell libertas ceased to work after update
[21:30] <gpled> did cdrom0 get lost in the upgrade to 10.10?
[21:30] <embrik> mariella, try to find out what drivers it uses, remove it completely in .f.ex synaptic, then install it again
[21:30] <shebang_wafflesa> Does anyone know if read/writeable ntfs is available on a clean ubuntu install?
[21:30] <tsunamie> dajhorn - okay thanks
[21:30] <tehnef> gpled: I always use sr0, fyi
[21:30] <dajhorn> tsunamie: Welcome.
[21:30] <planttt> tehnef I beg to differ. Ubuntu is targeted for desktop use.
[21:31] <engemec> mariella: I have a sugest to you. You can select the older kernel. Probably, the kernel had a update and the new kernel mybe don't support your wi-fi card.
[21:31] <ajeet_> hi
[21:31] <mariella> embrik:its a win driver + ndiswrapper
[21:31] <embrik> mariella, I had the same problem with my broadcom one hour ago - I'll try to find out what I did, wait
[21:32] <joe85> Anyone know why I am getting this error when I try to use the proprietary ATI driver? /var/log/Xorg.1.log:(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[21:32] <joe85> /var/log/Xorg.1.log:(EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed
[21:32] <tehnef> planttt: Yes, but the development of the foundation is not targeted for it. Ubuntu is pretty great and I use it a lot, but it's not for Joe User unless his IT guy sets it up for him and gives it to him after everything is up and running.
[21:32] <mariella> engemec: i tried to restore the old kernel ... couldnt make it work coorectly
[21:32] <root> hi
[21:32] <root> for all
[21:32] <root> plase haw spak french her
[21:33] <bazhang> Guest94515, #ubuntu-fr
[21:33] <planttt> tehnef, I beg to differ again. Maybe not on the foundation (while the future is promising), but Joe User can easily use Ubuntu. Setting up any OS is not easy.
[21:33] <jock> sounds more like 'Allo Allo
[21:33] <engemec> mariella: i had the same problem yesterday. Well, i restarted some times and every 5 restarts..... i discovered that the problem was nw-applet.
[21:33] <Guest94515> bon soiré pour tou
[21:33] <shebang_wafflesa> plantt: what distro do you run?
[21:33] <Guest94515> merci admin
[21:33] <planttt> tehnef, my wife installed a wine-based program without my knowing and it just worked
[21:34] <Guest94515> hi
[21:34] <embrik> mariella, Ok, I'm not an expert, just did what some on this channel suggested me to do. I found the drivers in synaptic - removed it completely, and opened restricted drivers in System, administration, and activated the proprietary driver for my wireless
[21:34] <planttt> shebang_wafflesa, Ubuntu 10.10 on desktops, CentOS on servers, Meamo on phone
[21:34] <tehnef> planttt: I get where you're coming from, I really do. For a lot of people, the setup is really easy and great. But for a significant amount of people, it is not.
[21:34] <planttt> tehnef, which OS *is* easy to set up?
[21:34] <bazhang> tehnef, planttt please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:35] <embrik> planttt, Linux is much easier than windows - I deal with windows computers at work - downloading drivers, rebooting, ipgrading service packs - it takes 24 hours
[21:35] <tehnef> good point bazhang
[21:35] <tehnef> sorry to derail.
[21:36] <xTheGoat121x> I'm trying to delete all my panels, but it won't let me delete the last one
[21:36] <engemec> I checked nw-applet, disabled, abled, disabled again and abled again....... after some times...... everything back to work.
[21:36] <mariella> engemac: I'll try remove the nw-apple Thanks
[21:36] <engemec> turned back to work.
[21:36] <MaverikUser> I can connect on MSN on Windows, but on Ubuntu (using: pidgin or amsn or emesene) I can't connect to msn ! I have this error: Error during login, please retry (Connection problem: [Err,o 110] Connecton timed out)
[21:36] <swim> i can't get windows to have space on my 3d sphere with compiz
[21:36] <xangua> xTheGoat121x: sure you want that¿¿ you will not have menu (alt+f1) or the launcher (alt+f2)
[21:36] <shebang_wafflesa> embrik: some distros are easier than windows. I's say that gentoo and CRUX are a hell of a lot harder to set up than windows
[21:36] <xTheGoat121x> xangua, I'm replacing it all with gnome-do and AWN
[21:37] <embrik> never used them - just debian based distros
[21:37] <shebang_wafflesa> And from what i heard, debian used to be very hard to set up
[21:37] <mariella> embrik: I already tied removing and changing at list 7 different drivers. It didn't work. Thanks anyway. you all have been very kind.
[21:38] <engemec> mariella: And more, I executed "dmesg | grep wlan"
[21:38] <goltoof> is there a cli music player, that actually looks like a music player? like an app inside of terminal, like mc
[21:38] <embrik> mariella, In windows I would have opened tha machine, removed the nic, started the computer, turned it off, installed the nic and stared the computer again
[21:39] <engemec> I saw all process, what happened.
[21:39] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: there's mplayer, and VLC which can be run from the command line iirc
[21:39] <xangua> xTheGoat121x: first you laucnhe 'gconf-editor' then go to /desktop/gnomse/session/required_components , and last delete gnome-panel from the 'panel' propertie (should be in blank) and just restart your session http://img600.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmp7mnjhd.png
[21:39] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:   this sucks because i don't think anyone knows what i'm asking for..
[21:39] <hax> goltoof: hey :)
[21:40] <madsj> and has ubuntu updated the default texlive to 2009 (or 2010) ?
[21:40] <xTheGoat121x> xangua, that's what I tried, still getting a blank panel up top.
[21:40] <engemec> Well, i have a doubt! I have problems with emphaty! Any more have this problem too?
[21:40] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:   you know mc?
[21:40] <shebang_wafflesa>  golktof, are you looking for something with text-based meus?
[21:40] <shebang_wafflesa> yeah
[21:40] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:   kind of graphical command line thingy?  i want a music player like that, it runs INSIDE of cli, but with some navigation
[21:41] <blakkheim> goltoof: mpd with ncmpcpp
[21:41] <xangua> xTheGoat121x: then you are doung something wrong
[21:41] <xangua> engemec: no problems with pidgin 2.7.5
[21:41] <mariella> embrik;-)
[21:41] <goltoof> blakkheim:  trying
[21:41] <nertilov> how to change from gnome to kde
[21:41] <hax> goltoof: save a screen in terminal is like "screen -s irssi" then restore the screen whit screen -r irssi, and what wass the one to go out of the screen in terminal ctrl+c? or ctrl+s?
[21:41] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:  yes menus
[21:41] <mariella> bye
[21:41] <engemec> xangua: I'm using pidgin!
[21:41] <xangua> nertilov: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:41] <hax> bye bye
[21:42] <nertilov> i have installed
[21:42] <nertilov> i just need to change now
[21:42] <goltoof> hax... i don't screen... terminator FTW
[21:42] <nertilov> something like switching
[21:42] <embrik> bye and thanks for all help gys and girls
[21:42] <xangua> nertilov: then just restart your session and select kde
[21:42] <hax> goltoof i meen in terminal
[21:42] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: i/'m not sure. Try what that other guy suggested
[21:42] <Jordan_U> goltoof: The keyword to search for is "curses". apt-cache search curses music
[21:43] <mrFrog> Hey can anyone help me out with understanding the empathy messaging client? The thing is for irc, I've used xchat. I like that I can close out of the window and still be in the chat room. Is there a way to do that with empathy?
[21:43] <cemc> is there a way to read the remaining time to the next break from that 'typing break applet' ?
[21:43] <hax> goltoof: so you have one terminal an use the cmd "screen -s irrsi" then type irssi, crtl+c to close it then when ever u want u can type screen -r irssi to start it again
[21:43] <blakkheim> hax: it's ctrl+a+d to detach, not ctrl+c
[21:43] <xangua> mrFrog: empathy is a very limiter irc client, last time i tried it there was not such an option
[21:43] <hax> blakkheim: thx
[21:44] <hax> blakkheim: it wass that i wass after ty
[21:44] <KB1JWQ> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi changed my life, it may change yours. :-) <-- goltoof
[21:44] <hax> my english isent so good to give a strait question
[21:44] <engemec> xangua: Nobody tested emphaty! Amazing!
[21:44] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: i think someone suggested this already. Would this http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/mpd/images/a/a5/Client_ncmpc_05112005_playlist_browser.png work for you?
[21:44] <bobbi> i have a problem. while working on a document in openoffice write, the whole system freezes. after a reboot, openoffice unsuccessfully tried to recover the file. NOW i can't save a document with the same filename?? i get: Error saving the document <name>: The object cannot be accessed due to insufficient user rights. what is this??
[21:45] <goltoof> shebang_wafflesa:   something like that....  looks like mpd with ncmpcpp did it!
[21:45] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: i just googled it. someone else suggested it
[21:45] <sosaited> Whenever I mount a ext43 partition. It mounts as read only. How can I permanently mount it as write+read?
[21:45] <blakkheim> <
[21:46] <sresu> Isn't there any app which analyse a voice and outputs a voice akin?
[21:46] <blakkheim> sosaited: ext43 wow
[21:46] <shebang_wafflesa> sosaited: ou can in /etc/fstab
[21:47] <sosaited> blakkheim: Yeah the ext43 aka typo .
[21:47] <shebang_wafflesa> blakkheim: i guess you were away for a while. there were lots of releases
[21:47] <blakkheim> must have been lol
[21:47] <sosaited> shebang_wafflesa: Can you tell what options for ext4 and write?
[21:48] <CaptSmokey6> I'm on ubuntu 10.10. i just downloaded an application, but i need it translated into English. how do i do that?
[21:48] <shebang_wafflesa> umm, in fstab you want it to say "rw" under options
[21:49] <shebang_wafflesa> sosaited: youre trying to mount a drivve or something, right?
[21:49] <xangua> CaptSmokey6: and that app is¿¿ (guessing...) have you already installed your language on system>administration>language support¿
[21:49] <nertilov> something like switching
[21:49] <nertilov> how to change from gnome to kde
[21:50] <xangua> nertilov: i have already told you to log out and select kde session
[21:50] <sosaited> shebang_wafflesa: Yes an ext4 partition which normally mounts as read only
[21:50] <shebang_wafflesa> nertilov: apt-get install kubuntu i think
[21:50] <Benkinooby> hi there. to repartition my hdds it's best to use a live system. or can i set the partition layout from my existing system and let them be applied at next boot?
[21:51] <nader> hi anyone use twm? how to change green color?
[21:51] <shebang_wafflesa> oh god, twm
[21:51] <Benkinooby> nader, maybe it's better you go to a twm channel. don't think, too many are using it around here
[21:52] <shebang_wafflesa> Benkinooby: if anyone's even in ther
[21:53] <Mocciani> tehnef: Thank you so much. It worked! It didn't work right away. After entering the physical MAC address of the server in the wireless connection settings was the icing on the cake
[21:53] <mobasher> can someone help me setup permissions for a user please :) it's user created by MQ i just want proper permission setup so I can run the app
[21:53] <Benkinooby> shebang_wafflesa, good point :P
[21:53] <Mk13> on one of my drives all files have been renamed to filename.ext__ is there a shell script that could rid of the underscores?
[21:54] <tehnef> Mocciani: Wireless connection settings? You mean on the router?
[21:54] <shebang_wafflesa> I'm not even sure if twm is themeable. You might  be better off with a modern derivative
[21:54] <Mocciani> tehnef: no. I meant the wireless section of the network settings on the machine where I installed Ubuntu
[21:55] <planttt> Mk13, 'rename' can do it, but uses regular expressions
[21:55] <Mocciani> first I went to the the server and noted down its mac address, and then entered it on the Ubuntu Wireless settings because there is a section where it asked for it
[21:56] <Mocciani> now I can go for a drive for some fresh air. enough computers!!! take care everyone and once again Tehnef, thanks a lot. have a good weekend
[21:56] <tehnef> Mocciani: that still sounds a little off. it shouldn't matter what your MAC address is, and having more than one NIC with the same MAC on a given network isn't a great idea.
[21:56] <tehnef> Mocciani: as long as it works, i guess :)
[21:56] <Mk13> plantt, how would i get it to be recursive?
[21:57] <planttt> Mk13, good one.
[21:57] <Mocciani> tehnef: yup :) and I'm sure I'll come back here if something's off. Its day 1 after installing Ubuntu
[21:57] <goltoof> next ridiculous cli question... is there a cli based audio streamer, or way to get ncmpcpp to stream audio?
[21:57] <planttt> Mk13, i'd do it with a script
[21:57] <ubuntunoob> I was wondering if some1 can help me install this program, I can't seem to figure out what info to use, I have Ubunut 10.10, TY!    http://moblock-deb.sourceforge.net/
[21:58] <Benkinooby> goltoof, mplayer
[21:58] <Benkinooby> goltoof, it can also play videos with framebuffers on the cli
[21:58] <planttt> Mk13, I found a 'krename' program, perhaps that can help. Google 'batch rename'
[21:59] <Mk13> planttt, ok, thanks
[21:59] <goltoof> Benkinooby:  i'm having no luck at all getting mplayer to do what i want in cli.
[21:59] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: this http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/What_MPD_Is_and_Is_Not ?
[22:00] <tehnef> ubuntunoob:  "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jre-phoenix/ppa" would probably get you what you need
[22:00] <ubuntunoob> oh ok TY
[22:00] <swim> i can't get windows to space on my 3d sphere with compix
[22:00] <swim> compiz
[22:01] <Benkinooby> goltoof, what do you want it to do?
[22:01] <masterko1p> hello, does ubuntu came with chkdisk by default ? (10.04)
[22:02] <goltoof> Benkinooby:  i want a 100% terminal based gui-like interface for playing music, and vids if possible
[22:02] <shebang_wafflesa> masterko1p: do you mean fsck? If so, then yes
[22:02] <AndroidLoverInSF> whats a good linux twitter client, like tweetdeck
[22:02] <goltoof> when i type mplayer, it just pops out mplayer
[22:02] <Diverdude> How do i add gstreamer docs to devhelper in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[22:03] <masterko1p> shebang_wafflesa: oh, in arch is chkfsck, thanks
[22:03] <shebang_wafflesa> goltoof: cli mplayer wouldn't give you waht you're looking for anyway
[22:03] <shebang_wafflesa> no problem
[22:03] <masterko1p> goltoof: do you wnat a ncurses based interface ?
[22:03] <ArkoldThos> hai, :) I just installed ubuntu 10.10 on an Acer Aspire AZ3 but the function buttons (light ones) are not working, and the battery is not detected by battery gnome shitty :p
[22:03] <ArkoldThos> any clue?
[22:03] <FloodBot4> ArkoldThos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <goltoof> masterko1p:   i suppose that's the term... not familiar with curses
[22:04] <Benkinooby> goltoof, hm, don't know if that is possible... didn't hear of it. if you are in cli, it would make things more difficult. to operated mplayer via cli is pretty straigt forward. you can tell it to print the playlist and add songs, chenge volumen and all..
[22:04] <shebang_wafflesa> master: he already founf the interface he wat ( ithink0- he just can't get it to work
[22:04] <masterko1p> i know that mpd have some clients ncurses based but mplayer hmmm... let me check
[22:04] <shebang_wafflesa> wow, i butchered that
[22:05] <mfaroukg> After i installed the maverick i cant boot the windows xp and it returns to the grub list again and again ??
[22:05] <Benkinooby> goltoof, if there is one thing i learned is, that most of these progs are made by people that are using them a lot. so they know what works best. it still takes some efforts for me to get rid of the gui-way ;) but it pays off
[22:06] <ubuntunoob> tehnef is did something but Now how do I run it so I can use it, TY!
[22:06] <kv102t> Hello, So if i plug in an external HDD. somewhere on ubuntu 10.4 there is a util that shows all drives on the left and then stats on the right.
[22:06] <kv102t> what is it?
[22:06] <masterko1p> goltoof: found it : http://tinyurl.com/3adrg35
[22:06] <beerbroy> have u tried http://sanastro.homeftp.net/debug/farbtabelle/ ?
[22:06] <mfaroukg> hii, After i installed the maverick i cant boot the windows xp and it returns to the grub list again and again ??
[22:07] <Benkinooby> goltoof, maybe you are looking for pytone? http://www.luga.de/pytone/pytone.png
[22:07] <masterko1p> Benkinooby: is just a metter of habbit, i barely use gui, for mplayer the cli just fits for me, it's quicker :)
[22:07] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: It sounds like you accidentally installed grub to your windows partition.
[22:08] <masterko1p> mfaroukg: more info please ?
[22:08] <goltoof> Benkinooby:  no doubt gui is easier, but i like to get as many things working in terminal as i can, since that's where i spend most my time... i may not even end up using it, but i still like to try
[22:08] <Maahes> I'm having an issue. Using the liveusb and I want to change my shell. which $SHELL returns: /bin/bash (not rbash). But running chsh says I may not change shells, and running sudo chsh gives me a PAM authentication error. there is a file for chsh in /etc/pam.d/
[22:08] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: Can you run boot info script as explained here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt to be sure?
[22:08] <masterko1p> goltoof: i just like the cli, easier for me
[22:08] <ArkoldThos> can anyone help me with the brightness function keys? :( i can't see many
[22:09] <Benkinooby> masterko1p, goltoof i think you got me wrong. i was enforcing the cli way and suggested something that fits to goltoof description http://www.luga.de/pytone/pytone.png
[22:09] <Benkinooby> goltoof, it's called pytone
[22:09] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, one min and i will send it, where should i paste ?
[22:09] <shebang_wafflesa> so does typing mplayer in ubuntu launch the GUI to mplayer by default?
[22:09] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | mfaroukg
[22:09] <goltoof> Benkinooby:   yea trying thx.   i was looking for instructions on ncmpcpp and gave up :P
[22:09] <DarsVaeda> after I'm logged into ubuntu i get a password request from gwibber, how do i remove that without removing gwibber?
[22:10] <meera> hi, dears - i opened photos over my gmx, wanted to copy them on my pc but than i deleted my chronik. i deleted emalis as well. what can i do to get photos back?
[22:10] <djs> I broke my xorg after installing KDE and removing it following a guide from "Psychocat" online... Now I don't get a GUI, my monitor turns off. How can I reset the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file if that's the problem?
[22:11] <goltoof> masterkolp:  i think i already know the answer, but is it possible to play video inside of terminal?
[22:11] <shebang_wafflesa> djs: you removed xorg?
[22:11] <dajhorn> Maahes: Just run the shell that you want to use.  `exec zsh` for example.  Add --login if necessary or desired.
[22:11] <Benkinooby> goltoof, if you are looking for more cli support you might give channels of distros that have more cli users a try. maybe archlinux, gentoo, debian...
[22:11] <djs> shebang_wafflesa: No, running startx spat out errors at one point
[22:11] <masterko1p> Benkinooby: but pytone is not a frontend for mplayer is a satndalone, that can (eventually) support xmms
[22:11] <djs> But now it starts loading and my monitor goes black as if it has no signal and I have to reboot
[22:11] <shebang_wafflesa> djs: you could try removing xorg and then typing startx
[22:12] <shebang_wafflesa> ermm, xorg.conf i mean
[22:12] <djs> That'll recreate one?
[22:12] <djs> Using open drivers?
[22:12] <shebang_wafflesa> djs: i think so
[22:12] <djs> I'll give it a shot
[22:12] <goltoof> Benkinooby:   you're right, i am a bit off topic,  but so are most "linux" question here ;)
[22:12] <shebang_wafflesa> djs: i think it'll autogenerate a xorg.conf, i have no idea about the drivers
[22:12] <Benkinooby> masterko1p, if i understoold goltoof correctly he wanted a gui-like cli player... no matter what's "under the hood"
[22:12] <djs> I keep my data on a separate drive from my OS thankfully
[22:13] <djs> brb, removing xorg.conf
[22:13] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/530908/
[22:13] <goltoof> Benkinooby:   support for many formats would be nice
[22:13] <masterko1p> Benkinooby: oh, sorry i think that he wants a mplayer frontend
[22:13] <lullabud> when you mount a remote server using Places->Connect to Server, is there a way to make that mount show up to the filesystem so you can interact with it via the CLI?
[22:13] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: That confirms it. Follow this guide to restore the windows PBR: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[22:14] <Benkinooby> goltoof, never mind... i was not correctiong you. i just wanted to say, that you might be more lucky with usable answers in other channels, where more people with cli experience are around
[22:14] <masterko1p> lullabud: what kinf of server ? SSH server, sft server ?
[22:14] <lullabud> ftp, smb
[22:14] <goltoof> Benkinooby:  i usually do,  i have yet to find a channel as active and knowledgable as this one tho
[22:14] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, will i need to reinstall the ubuntu?
[22:14] <masterko1p> lullabud: use the ftp comand-line aplication
[22:14] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: No.
[22:14] <masterko1p> check the man pages of the same
[22:14] <goltoof> Benkinooby:   and not filled with 12 year old pubks
[22:14] <lullabud> masterko1p: so what you're saying is "no"
[22:15] <masterko1p> Benkinooby: i am a cli user
[22:15] <goltoof> *punks
[22:15] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, thanks i will get back to you.
[22:15] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: You're welcome.
[22:15] <oal> Anyone here know if the programmable buttons on Logitech G700 (mouse) work in Ubuntu?
[22:15] <ArkoldThos> can anyone help me with the brightness function keys? :( i can't see nothing >.<
[22:15] <masterko1p> lullabud: no, i am saying that you can aesse ftp server using the command "ftp"
[22:15] <masterko1p> !man ftp
[22:15] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, can i change the sequence of booting after that?
[22:16] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: Change in what way?
[22:16] <masterko1p> goltoof: i am always on the archlinux channel if you want help, just ask ( nick masterkorp )
[22:16] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, i mean make windows 1st boot
[22:16] <Benkinooby> goltoof, i always found good answers in gentoo channel (if you have some linux experience) and debian. but i have to admit, that the ubuntu channel is the most active one. but if it comes to a certain complexity of question, ubuntu channel might not be the best places. still it's not wrong to ask here ;)
[22:16] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, i used to do that
[22:17] <mfaroukg> Jordan_U, i use the grub-update
[22:17] <lullabud> masterko1p: i know how to use ftp.  i'm asking if there's a way to mount a remote share on the filesystem using the gui.
[22:17] <Benkinooby> masterko1p, i never said, that NO cli users  are in here...
[22:17] <shebang_wafflesa> Yeah, i hang out in the ubuntu channel even though i'm a *BSD user. It's just much more active
[22:17] <tehnef> lullabud: what are you wanting to do again>
[22:17] <goltoof> masterko1p:   ok thx!  now if i could just configure pytone :(
[22:18] <Benkinooby> shebang_wafflesa, never felt the need to try bsd... why do you use/prefer it ?
[22:18] <lullabud> tehnef: i want to mount a remote share using the GUI
[22:18] <lullabud> tehnef: and i want that mount to show up on the CLI
[22:18] <tehnef> lullabud: when you mount something using the places:connect, it usually mounts in ~/.gvfs
[22:18] <Jordan_U> mfaroukg: According to your grub.cfg windows should already be the first option.
[22:18] <lullabud> oh, interesting...
[22:18] <Benkinooby> goltoof, try the man command ;)
[22:18] <tehnef> lullabud: it doesn't show up as a system mount. i'm guessing it's using fuse or something
[22:18] <masterko1p> goltoof: the documentation is in their page
[22:19] <shebang_wafflesa> Benbkin: many of the reasons why one would use gentoo. I found it to be more stable than linux, the upgrade process is more reliable, and i like to build from the ground up (which isn't a unique feature to te BSD's)
[22:19] <masterko1p> goltoof: read fisrt, ask later :)
[22:19] <Benkinooby> goltoof, are you using screen, tmux or something like that?
[22:19] <shebang_wafflesa> And actually the upgrade process varies between BSDs
[22:19] <goltoof> Benkinooby: can you believe that i actually do man [command] every time i need to learn something??   took me almost a year to pick that up
[22:19] <goltoof> Benkinooby:   terminator
[22:19] <lullabud> tehnef: many many thanks, that's exactly what i was hoping to find
[22:20] <bobbi> an unsuccessful recovery attempt after a crash when using openoffice writer results in me being unable to save documents with _the same filename_ as the one i used when the system crashed. any ideas?
[22:20] <masterko1p> shebang_wafflesa: agree, but i just don't like to compile everything, so i use archlinux
[22:20] <tehnef> lullabud: np
[22:20] <tehnef> bobbi: remove the file with the offending filename? sounds like a permissions screwup
[22:21] <shebang_wafflesa> master: i really like arch, but i've found that some of the packages yield buggy binaries. FreeBSD has a pretty good binary package manager if you don't have the time to compile everything
[22:21] <lullabud> tehnef: you wouldn't happen to know a cli way to do the places->connect to server mounts, would you?
[22:21] <mfaroukg> i used to use this :  sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[22:21] <Benkinooby> shebang_wafflesa, my maybe, if i am more settled with linux i'll give bsd a try. the only reason why i use linux is, because i tried the linux cd before the bsd cd when i wanted to try a new os ;) ... but on the other hand, my gentoo experiences costed me nights and nearly tears :)
[22:21] <tehnef> lullabud: i just use mount for that type of stuff, but it doesn't put it in .gvfs obviously
[22:22] <mfaroukg> Thanks, i have to reboot now
[22:22] <masterko1p> lullabud: i just awnsered you before
[22:22] <shebang_wafflesa> Benkin: that's another reason why i run BSD. It's the one i have the most exposure to
[22:22] <lullabud> tehnef: yeah, i was hoping to get standardized syntax for different protocols...
[22:22] <tehnef> lullabud: e.g. "mount -t cifs -o user=blah,password=foo,owner=username,rw //smbserver/share /media/windows_ick"
[22:22] <bobbi> tehnef: yes i get a permission error in open office like object not accessible due to user rights. but i've tried deleting the file multiple times. its in my ~/Document folder and i can save the filename with all other programs. just ooo
[22:22] <lullabud> tehnef: for instance, in osx you type "open 'smb://servername/share' and it mounts it just like you'd connected to it in the gui
[22:23] <tehnef> lullabud: oooh i didn't know that about osx. shiny.
[22:23] <tehnef> lullabud: not that i know of. i'm more of a mac geek myself as well.
[22:23] <lullabud> tehnef: yeah, i'd love to have that standard syntax for linux...
[22:24] <Kapace> hello, is there a way to force a opengl application to use Mesa Software renderer instead of the dri renderer?
[22:25] <tehnef> lullabud: i'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're SOL on that
[22:27] <cryptik> l
[22:28] <Benkinooby> shebang_wafflesa, if i get that correct, bsd is able to use the software that can be used with linux... so it's just a different kernel und software management?
[22:28] <bazhang> !ot | Benkinooby
[22:29] <Benkinooby> shebang_wafflesa, never mind, found a good site explaining it
[22:29] <shebang_wafflesa> Benkin: umm, kind of. Different kernel, different API (i think), different tools, diiferent fs. Most of these things won't be noticed by casual users
[22:29] <bazhang> shebang_wafflesa, please stick to the topic
[22:30] <blakkheim> is there such a thing as a "casual" freebsd user? lol
[22:30] <ademos> Kubuntu Forums refuses to let me register ---- the system continually tells me that I I didn't answer the verification questions correctly, but they don't tell me WHICH question is wrong. Any ideas? ---- Here's what I entered: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4742/kubunturegistration.png
[22:30] <shebang_wafflesa> PC-BSD users ;). but yeah, we're getting off topic
[22:30] <ademos> I already asked at #kubuntu , but got no answer
[22:32] <Jordan_U> ademos: You didn't include the period after "size".
[22:32] <ademos> Jordan_U: Oooh, that may be it; thanks!
[22:32] <laziac> can someone explain why some notifications appear snug in the upper right corner while others have a sizeable gap between them and the top of the screen? intended behavior or should I file a bug report?
[22:32] <Jordan_U> ademos: You're welcome.
[22:32] <ademos> Jordan_U: Nope...same response, they tell me SOMETHING is wrong with my answers, but they don't specify WHAT is wrong...
[22:33] <ademos> "You did not answer the verification questions correctly."
[22:33] <benste> hi, could some try to explain me the following "error" with EXT4 causing slow boot ?
[22:33] <benste> http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108533#post10108533
[22:34] <lullabud> tehnef: yeah... the best thing i can find is xdg-open, and it doesn't handle remote shares.
[22:37] <bobbi> i get a message: document file 'name' is locked for editing by unknown user message from openoffice write when my user owns the file
[22:38] <ArkAnGiCIA> White Rabbit !
[22:39] <benste> slow boot - ext 4 issue ? - http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108533#post10108533 - need your help
[22:42] <bobbi> tehnef: ok i solved it. it was a hidden "lock" file in the same directory
[22:42] <Starn> how can i resize my linux partition i've tried gparted i've tried windows but both only let me resize the windows partition..
[22:42] <fnordz> hey all, i have a script that i've made for two finger scrolling that i have set to run as a startup application, but it appears i also need it to run after resuming from suspend... i've tried to add it in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ but it doesn't seem to be working... any thoughts?
[22:44] <lfaraone> in curl, how can I specify an arbitrary filename when I'm doing a file upload? like, I want the filename sent to the server to be different than that of the file on the local disk.
[22:44] <xangua> Starn: use gparted from the ubuntu live cd or from the won gparted live cd
[22:45] <Starn> xangua what if i have no CD's?
[22:45] <Starn> on
[22:45] <Starn>                 gparted live cd
[22:45] <xangua> live usb then Starn
[22:45] <night> i download unity package should i restart computer to run that package
[22:45] <Starn> a;right
[22:46] <xangua> night what exactly are you refering to 'unity package' ¿
[22:46] <fredrik> hello guys
[22:46] <sisif> Hello guys. Is it normal not to have a xorg.conf in /etc/X11 or it`s just my install broken ?
[22:46] <night> my version is maverick ok
[22:47] <goltoof> sisif:  i've seen it happen to someone else today
[22:47] <night> and downloaded that to run on my desktop
[22:47] <fredrik> I have a small problem I was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to help me out with. I accidentally removed the e-mail indicator icon on the tray, and I was wondering if anyone here knows how to get it back?
[22:47] <goltoof> sisif:   not sure how often it happens, but it's odd, mine has it (10.10)
[22:47] <sisif> goltoof, any clues on what to do next (runnin 10.10 x64 now)
[22:47] <night> i mean unity interface netbook
[22:48] <goltoof> sisif, i would say reinstall x but idk if that would keep it from happening again
[22:48] <xangua> night then just close your session and start 'unity session'
[22:48] <goltoof> *xorg
[22:48] <night> how
[22:48] <DSHR> no xorg.conf is normal
[22:48] <xangua> CLOSE YOUR USER SESSION night
[22:48] <sisif> DSHR, how come? Then how / where can I set up my config ?
[22:48] <night> how can i do that
[22:48] <xangua> from the session menu...
[22:49] <xangua> that little on/off icon
[22:49] <goltoof> DSHR:  o ok, what makes it appear/disappear?
[22:49] <DSHR> sisif, for me its fully automatic
[22:49] <xangua> or is it 'power' icon
[22:49] <laziac> can someone explain why some notifications appear snug in the upper right corner while others have a sizeable gap between them and the top of the screen? intended behavior or should I file a bug report?
[22:50] <fredrik> I have a small problem I was wondering if anyone would be so kind as to help me out with. I accidentally removed the e-mail indicator icon on the tray, and I was wondering if anyone here knows how to get it back?
[22:50] <xangua> fredrik: default behavior, want to change¿ http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/tweak-notifyosd-notifications-in-ubuntu.html
[22:50] <sisif> DSHR, I`m asking because I`m having LOTS of issues with video since I installed 10.10. Ati closed drivers don`t work - I get reboots, closed screens, all kinds of errors, etc. The open source drivers give about the same issues, only fewer .
[22:50] <DSHR> Sisif: if have no problems with Xorg, you should remove the xorg.cong
[22:50] <fredrik> xangua, thanks
[22:51] <DSHR> Sisif: I see, running intel here
[22:51] <goltoof> sisif:    switch to nvidia.. poof, done
[22:51] <rmrfslash> How do I frickin' disable nouveau
[22:51] <DSHR> Sisif thn you have to  create a config
[22:51] <rmrfslash> that sucker just doesn't want to not load...
[22:51] <sisif> DSHR, ATI HD 2400
[22:52] <rmrfslash> I added a modprobe file w/  options nouveau modeset=0
[22:52] <DSHR> Sisif: Never used anything but thinkpads with intel
[22:52] <sisif> DSHR, can`t I just dpkg-reconfigure the package or is there any other way to generate a Xorg.conf ?
[22:52] <rmrfslash> ran sudo update-initramfs -u
[22:52] <ParkerR> Hey
[22:52] <sisif> DSHR, lucky you.
[22:52] <DSHR> Sisif, I think so
[22:53] <DSHR> Sisif, I had tons of problems with intel too
[22:53] <fredrik> xangua, doesn't seem to  be what I'm ooking for... You know, the envelope-icon on the top-right of the screen, well I accidentally removed it from the tray, and I'm looking for a way to get it back..
[22:53] <xangua> (16:50:42) xangua: fredrik: default behavior, want to change¿ http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/tweak-notifyosd-notifications-in-ubuntu.html was refering to laziac :S
[22:54] <xangua> fredrik: just add the indicator back to the panel
[22:54] <bazhang> fredrik, indicator-applet is what its called
[22:54] <sympt0m> If I were to want to copy my whole Ubuntu environment onto another computer, how would I do that? Like... basically making my own distro so I can install it on another system.
[22:54] <xangua> right clic> add
[22:54] <Linuxaddict> Does anyone know how to solve or remove the service in UNR 10.10 id errors unknown user id?
[22:54] <fredrik> well I choose add to panel, yet I cana't find it in the list...
[22:54] <bazhang> !clone | sympt0m
[22:55] <sympt0m> wow, that didn't make a whole lot of sense
[22:55] <fredrik> ah, yeah, just had a weird name, thanks bazhang and xangua
[22:55] <bazhang> sympt0m, or you could make a installable iso with something like remastersys
[22:55] <carloscrespo> buenas noches
[22:55] <sympt0m> that's what I'm looking for, is there a free program to do that?
[22:55] <bazhang> sympt0m, its called remastersys
[22:55] <carloscrespo> alguien podria ayudarme sobre  como instalar joomla en ubuntu
[22:55] <sympt0m> ill check it out, thanks!
[22:56] <Linuxaddict>  Basically when I boot up UNR 10.10 I sometimes get the error unkwown user id
[22:56] <bazhang> carloscrespo, english here please espanol in #ubuntu-es
[22:56] <mawst> Is there a player that supports APE but can tell where tracks end and begin?
[22:56] <mawst> Movie Player doesn't seem to do this.
[22:56] <sisif> DSHR, any idea how to generate a new xorg.conf ?
[22:56] <Linuxaddict> also are we still able to install gnome on UNR 10.10 and get rid of unity
[22:56] <Linuxaddict> ?
[22:57] <goltoof> sisif:   sudo vi xorg.conf
[22:57] <Jordan_U> Linuxaddict: Yes.
[22:57] <xangua> Linuxaddict: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:57] <Linuxaddict> yeh I know the command
[22:57] <Linuxaddict> I was just checking
[22:57] <Linuxaddict> thanks
[22:57] <DSHR> Sisif,  I think so, than you have a start for vi
[22:57] <mazadizzer> Trying to upgrade UNR 10.04 to 10.10 and getting an error to do with not being able to upgrade libdrm-nouveau1, tried to apt-get remove the package but it seems that the entire installation is dependent upon it, how can I proceed?
[22:58] <cjk> hi, are there any mirrors out there for old unsupported ubuntu releases? I am looking for an 8.10 intrepid mirror
[22:58] <DSHR> Sisif: Or better emacs ...
[22:58] <goltoof> or better vi  ;)
[22:58] <Linuxaddict> so how do I resolve this unknown user id error, any suggestions?
[22:58] <xangua> cjk:  no
[22:58] <sisif> goltoof, I know *how to crete a xorg.conf empty file. I meant .. is there a tool to generate me a default xorg.conf based on my specs ?
[22:58] <bazhang> old-releases.ubuntu.com cjk ?
[22:58] <Linuxaddict> I've tried changing my id on my user but no go
[22:58] <Linuxaddict> I have a support user account
[22:59] <Linuxaddict> which seems to be causing the issue
[22:59] <cjk> xangua, no underground ubuntu sysadmin society out there?
[22:59] <xangua> ¿¿
[22:59] <Jordan_U> sisif: An empty xorg.confg is basically a default xorg.conf. Just add whatever sections you want to have custom sections for.
[22:59] <KB1JWQ> cjk: There is, but we run supported things. :-)
[22:59] <goltoof> sisif, my experience is that the driver creates it along with whatever control panel for the card
[22:59] <becca> help!  I've reset my iphone (all content and settings) and now my phone is stuck in a loop with the apple logo.  I have no backup in itunes.  I want to get back to a factory settings iOS, how can I do this.  I can't seem to get the device into DFU mode.  Despair is imminent!
[23:00] <Linuxaddict> erm this is the ubuntu channel
[23:00] <KB1JWQ> becca: How is this even slightly Ubuntu related?
[23:00] <sisif> Haha :D
[23:00] <cjk> ok i guess bad luck for me then
[23:00] <goltoof> sisif: my nvidia control panel has a "save to xorg.conf" button, and i can manually open it and specify my own resolutions
[23:00] <Linuxaddict> try google
[23:00] <Jordan_U> sisif: If you really want all of the options hard coded in a long xorg.conf you can use Xorg --configure, but I don't recommend that.
[23:00] <Linuxaddict> for an iphone irc chanel
[23:00] <Linuxaddict> this isn't the place
[23:00] <becca> KB1JWQ, wrong chan, sorry!
[23:00] <xangua> KB1JWQ: i hope he/she doesn't answers 'is related 'cause i use ubuntu'
[23:01] <goltoof> sisif:   i had the same thing with my ati card, but ati was a nightmare and froze up my system, so i switched to nvidia and couldn't be happier
[23:01] <becca> KB1JWQ, its xchat switching to ubuntu chan by default even though I opened another chan just before
[23:01] <becca> xangua, erm, did you even read the reply above?
[23:02] <administrator> spaccotutto
[23:02] <sisif> goltoof, It`s kinda hard to unsolder my GPU from my notebook MB :D
[23:02] <benste> nobody can help me with http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108533#post10108533 ?
[23:02] <bazhang> administrator, english here please #ubuntu-it for italiano
[23:02] <xangua> becca: normally things like what i said tend to happen, just saying, don't take it personal ;)
[23:03] <Linuxaddict> why the heck are you wanting to unsolder you gpu
[23:03] <Linuxaddict> ?
[23:03] <Linuxaddict> do you mean remove your cpu
[23:03] <aroman> hey all, anyone have any preformance regressions to report after Lucid>Maverick?
[23:03] <becca> xangua, np ;0)
[23:03] <benste> aroman: only on boottiem - http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108533#post10108533
[23:04] <mazadizzer> well since no-one has any ideas i guess my option is a clean install of 10.10 and scrap this installation
[23:05] <Linuxaddict> whats wrong
[23:05] <Linuxaddict> sorry I've only just joined the channel
[23:05] <mazadizzer> Trying to upgrade UNR 10.04 to 10.10 and getting an error to do with not being able to upgrade libdrm-nouveau1, tried to apt-get remove the package but it seems that the entire installation is dependent upon it, how can I proceed?
[23:06] <Linuxaddict> ahh that is tricky
[23:06] <Justin__> hello room
[23:06] <Linuxaddict> are you sure the entire installation is dependant  on it
[23:06] <Kapace> mazadizzer, can you apt-get upgrade?
[23:06] <Justin__> has anyone here dealt with ntfs formatted drives under ubuntu server?
[23:07] <Linuxaddict> also have you tried booting Ubuntu with an earlier kernel/
[23:07] <Linuxaddict> ?
[23:07] <mazadizzer> Kapace, I can, all my packages are up to date
[23:07] <Linuxaddict> then updating
[23:07] <Sonic132> Can someone take a look at my posts on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639 and help me out? I really want to get my dual-boot working again.
[23:07] <Justin__> im thinking of switching from freenas
[23:07] <mazadizzer> Linuxaddict, how do I boot with a different kernel?
[23:07] <Kapace> mazadizzer, whats error/ log message?
[23:07] <Sonic132> mazadizzer: I believe he's referring to choosing an older one from the boot menu (at boot).
[23:08] <Linuxaddict> usually when you have updated when you boot up and see the grub version you will see an option for the previous state ubuntu was in showing a different kernel version
[23:08] <Linuxaddict> this is usually the second or third option
[23:08] <Justin__> freenas does not seem to work well with my ntfs drives
[23:09] <Sonic132> Hey y'all having some issues with fixing my grub/mbr situation so that both windows and Ubuntu will boot. Check here for details/history. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639 Please help.
[23:09] <Linuxaddict> so the top option in Ubuntu will be the latest kernel running on Ubuntu and the option under neath will have a different kernal showing
[23:10] <Linuxaddict> sorry I ment the top option in the grub menu
[23:10] <Sonic132> Newest stuff always goes on top.
[23:11] <sisif> Jordan_U, apparently Xorg - configure gives me a fatal error :D
[23:12] <mazadizzer> Kapace, Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.'
[23:12] <mazadizzer> i'll just go and try booting into a different kernel
[23:12] <mazadizzer> brb
[23:12] <Linuxaddict> ok
[23:12] <Linuxaddict> I need to reboot so brb as well :)
[23:13] <Sonic132> Anyone wanna make me feel stupid? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639
[23:14] <mazadizzer> Didn't get the option to boot into a different kernel
[23:14] <mazadizzer> think it will probably be easier just to do a fresh install of 10.10
[23:14] <mazadizzer> it's only a HTPC anyway so nothing vital stored on it
[23:15] <Sonic132> mazadizzer: Ok so when you boot. You don't get a menu? You just boot straight into the OS?
[23:15] <mazadizzer> Sonic132, that's correct
[23:15] <Sonic132> mazadizzer: Oh your single boot right?
[23:15] <mazadizzer> Sonic132, yup
[23:16] <Sonic132> mazadizzer: Makes sense then. I'm not l33t enough to know how to get a menu on single boot.
[23:16] <Sonic132> mazadizzer: But if you got nothing to lose. Do a reinstall.
[23:16] <Kapace> mazadizzer, does google help with that error message?
[23:16] <ish_> hey guys
[23:16] <Kapace> do you have 'held packages'?
[23:16] <ish_> im trying to use netcat to send the lines of a text file, i went to send one line every second
[23:17] <Sonic132> I don't want to have to do a reinstall of two OSes myself. Especially since all the drivers were a pain to hunt down.
[23:17] <ish_> what command is that
[23:17] <Kapace> ish_, man nc
[23:17] <Kapace> look at -i
[23:17] <mazadizzer> Kapace, As far as I know I don;t have any held packages
[23:17] <ish_> i tried -i but it didnt seem to be sending lines
[23:18] <mazadizzer> but I remember I had to fiddle around quite a bit to get the video working, so I probably messed something up
[23:18] <ish_> it would sometimes send half a partial line
[23:18] <mazadizzer> hopefully it should be more straightforward next time!
[23:18] <Kapace> mazadizzer, yeah, so reinstall is probably the best solution
[23:18] <Kapace> although, with some log searching, and cleaning up etc, you might be able to fix it
[23:19] <Sonic132> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639 Anyone want to help me fix my mbr/grub so that both OSes work. Instead of just Windows?
[23:20] <four2zero> im running 10.4 and have an external hard drive via usb port and would like to change the permission to write allowed when transfering files via ftp ?
[23:21] <four2zero> when i right click on the external icon from desktop, it shows permission tab as 'could not be determined'.
[23:22] <four2zero> and fstab does not show the device string
[23:23] <facepunch> question:   when you first login to a server via SSH for the first time it says that it will store a figure print of the host...  where is that stored?
[23:23] <[daemon]> facepunch: .ssh in your home
[23:24] <[daemon]> facepunch: how should it - it wasnt conected during installation so the fstab wont know it
[23:24] <[daemon]> facepunch: run hwinfo --cdrom to find out
[23:24] <facepunch> i think you mean  four2zero
[23:25] <[daemon]> Args damn completion :)
[23:25] <Sonic132> Come on! Usually people are great at fixing grub/mbr problems.
[23:26] <linxeh> is there any way to stop ubuntu chewing battery life as if it was free?
[23:26] <[daemon]> linxeh: yes - use openSUSE
[23:26] <Sonic132> Power Management?
[23:26] <linxeh> [daemon]: hohohoho. oh, I see. opensuse isnt a debian derivative. oops.
[23:27] <[daemon]> linxeh: so what?
[23:27] <Mint> hi all
[23:27] <linxeh> [daemon]: I said *ubuntu*. there is no way I'm sticking suse / redhat crap on here
[23:28] <Vogg_win32> and ubuntu is so much better ?
[23:28] <benbro> how can I find all the directories a package put files into?
[23:28] <[daemon]> linxeh: eh eh eh - crap it is then
[23:28] <Mint> lol
[23:28] <linxeh> osx manages 5-6 hours, windows 7 manages 3-4 hours on this 4 year old macbook. ubuntu barely manages 2 hours of irssi over ssh
[23:28] <blakkheim> linxeh: use os x then
[23:28] <bazhang> [daemon], install suse is not a viable help option here. so please dont
[23:28] <rui_> hi all
[23:28] <bazhang> blakkheim, please..
[23:28] <MrStarbuck83> hi everyone
[23:28] <rui_> can anyone help me
[23:28] <blackshirt> rui_: hey
[23:28] <[daemon]> bazhang: huh - why not?
[23:28] <rui_> ?
[23:28] <linxeh> blakkheim: I've been using linux as my main OS since 1995. I'm not going to switch to OSX now
[23:29] <bazhang> [daemon], check the topic here.
[23:29] <echo310infantry> is it possible to twinview over three monitors?
[23:29] <linxeh> blakkheim: I run OSX when I need to, and that is all
[23:29] <Mint> rui_, whats wrong
[23:29] <Sean93> This there way to make ushare only work for one xbox? so that no other xboxs could even see it?
[23:29] <UserX7> linxeh: have you tried powertop?
[23:29] <rui_> blackshirt:I remove from the panel my name and the shutdown button can u helpme to bring back?
[23:29] <Mint> what about xbox
[23:29] <mostholy> hi can someone help me troubleshoot an error with GIMP?
[23:30] <[daemon]> bazhang: so I'm forced to tell to use *buntu even if it is bugged?
[23:30] <mostholy> or perhaps direct me to the best place to ask
[23:30] <Mint> lol rui_
[23:30] <echo310infantry> is it possible to twinview over three monitors?
[23:30] <MrStarbuck83> I have a question about the video kernel parameter. I'd like to use a special frame buffer driver (tridentfb), so I set up grub2 to pass video=directfb:800x600 but it won't change anything. When I use modprobe to insert the driver, it works like a charm.... any thoughts on how to properly set this up on boot time?
[23:30] <rui_> Mint:hi
[23:30] <Sonic132> Hey blackshirt. I got a new issue. Old issues fixed. Details are here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639
[23:30] <bazhang> [daemon], this is ubuntu support. try ##linux if you can't stick to the topic here.
[23:30] <MrStarbuck83> ( i checked the logs, to make sure, the parameter is passed, it is! )
[23:30] <[daemon]> bazhang: why so hostile?
[23:30] <Benkinooby> hi, i used one virtual terminal to try mplayer with framebuffer. i started it with tmux (terminal multiplexer). now my terminal looks somewhat "framebuffered".i can't take a screenshot of it. but the letters are not as clear as in an other virtual terminal where no mplayer ran. any suggestions?
[23:31] <mostholy> i am getting an error relating to libbabl that prevents GIMP from running, can someone help?
[23:31] <zelo> Hello i need some help with ubuntu 10.10 on my pc. When i connect to a network by wifi (ar9285 based) the os freeze. When im connected by ethernet everything goes fine. Do you know how to solve this?
[23:31] <blackshirt> mostholy: can you pastebin output completely ??
[23:31] <Mint> zelo, in ubuntu 10.10 everything freeze :P
[23:31] <mostholy> blackshirt: it's just one line i could post it here if you like
[23:32] <Mint> also sleep
[23:32] <Mint> ;)
[23:32] <blackshirt> Sonic132: hey bro.. wait a minute
[23:32] <Sonic132> blackshirt: Ok.
[23:32] <rui_> Mint:can u helpeme
[23:32] <Mint> rui_, i am new in 10.10
[23:32] <rui_> ok
[23:32] <Mint> rtfm in google
[23:32] <Mint> :D
[23:33] <rui_> Mint:ok
[23:33] <bazhang> !rtfm > Mint
[23:33] <tensorpudding> rui_: what's the issue
[23:33] <bazhang> Mint, that is completely unacceptable here.
[23:33] <tensorpudding> rui_: you want to restore the panel/
[23:33] <echo310infantry> is it possible to twinview over three monitors?
[23:33] <zelo> Mint well i dont have any problems on my ibm t61 and everytking is working out of the box but i cant solve this problem on other notebook.
[23:33] <rui_> tensorpudding:yes
[23:33] <tensorpudding> i think there is a factoid for that...
[23:33] <blackshirt> Sonic132: i don't play well with ubuntu...
[23:33] <tensorpudding> !panel
[23:33] <tensorpudding> eh
[23:34] <bazhang> resetpanel
[23:34] <Sean93> This there way to make ushare only work for one xbox? so that no other xboxs could even see it?
[23:34] <tensorpudding> !resetpanel
[23:34] <Sean93> is**
[23:34] <Sonic132> blackshirt: What do you mean?
[23:34] <tensorpudding> ah, that would do it
[23:34] <blackshirt> Sonic132: i mean, play well with wubi
[23:34] <blackshirt> Sonic132: i'm sorry..
[23:34] <rui_> tensorpudding: i remove the button with my name and the button to shutdown
[23:34] <Sonic132> blackshirt: Ah...well I'm not using wubi anymore. That's part of the problem.
[23:34] <Mint> zelo, i have.. i went to shopping today.. and come back.... my computer freeze if i want "wake" it up
[23:34] <Sonic132> blackshirt: I have Ubuntu on an actual partition. Used lvpm to do it.
[23:34] <Linuxaddict> Hi
[23:34] <Mint> sry about my english
[23:34] <Linuxaddict> back again
[23:34] <ArkAnGiCIA> hi
[23:35] <DJZee> wubi desn't work very well
[23:35] <tensorpudding> rui_: just do what ubottu said to do, run "gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel" in a terminal
[23:35] <blackshirt> Sonic132: are you successfully transfer it to actual partition ??
[23:35] <jparks> DJZee: How so? Every time i've used it it has worked well
[23:35] <Sonic132> DJZee: It's not all bad as long as you never need any more space lol.
[23:35] <jparks> It's a little slow of course, you're running off of a file rather than a physical device
[23:35] <DJZee> well, it works a little slower is all
[23:35] <DJZee> and i have had problems on some dell machines
[23:35] <DJZee> with xp
[23:35] <jparks> when i use it though, its generally because i'm too lazy to install it to a USB
[23:35] <Lantizia> Hey I'm using a Dell Inspiron 1525 (came with Ubuntu, onboard Intel graphics using official drivers and xrandr)... I've conected the S-Video TV out... does anyone know how I can get it put in PAL-I mode instead of NTSC as this TV doesn't do NTSC
[23:36] <Sonic132> blackshirt: Yeah. It's on an actual partition. Now I can't get grub to work. Now that I uninstalled wubi from Windows.
[23:36] <jparks> so i use WUBI to install onto a physical device
[23:36] <Sonic132> Read this. Particularly the posts at the bottom http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639
[23:36] <echo310infantry> is it possible to twinview over three monitors?
[23:36] <DJZee> try booting from a live cd or usb and reinstalling grub
[23:37] <jparks> i'm on the endless search to find the best linux hypervisor
[23:37] <DJZee> uh xen??
[23:37] <Sonic132> DJZee: Ubuntu wont boot off the copied disc I have. I think it's cause somehow it got a file corrupted when it was burned.
[23:37] <Linuxaddict> does grub keep failing
[23:37] <jparks> i've tried KVM, Virtualbox, and everything but Xen
[23:37]  * Mint sucks
[23:37] <Mint> =)
[23:37] <jparks> i've tried Gentoo, Fedora, CentOS, and Ubuntu
[23:37] <bazhang> Mint, please stop that
[23:37] <rui_> tensorpudding:thank you it works.
[23:37] <DJZee> Sonic132: huh. do you have any other linux live cds?
[23:37] <phr> hello guys! what's up? ;)
[23:37] <jparks> inevitably i find some feature i hate with one distro that another distro has.. bleh i need to L2google
[23:37] <Mint> jparks, and what was THE best ?
[23:37] <jparks> well
[23:37] <jparks> so far
[23:37] <jparks> on my "server" setup
[23:38] <jparks> Ubuntu 10.10 running fluxbox w/ virtualbox
[23:38] <Sonic132> DJZee: I have Kubuntu 10.04. My Ubuntu installation is x64 10.10 though.
[23:38] <Mint> bazhang, okay i will now
[23:38] <jparks> but then i just found out about some nifty things i can do with KVM so i'm probably going to change my mind
[23:38] <jparks> I used Xen on Suse, but i've never tried it on ubuntu (because i'm scared to touch the kernel)
[23:38] <Mint> lol
[23:38] <Mint> okay
[23:38] <DJZee> Sonic132: if it's a live cd the grub program should be the same on the kubuntu cd.
[23:39] <jparks> DJZee you prefer Xen to KVM i take it?
[23:39] <Sonic132> DJZee: I really don't want to reinstall both Win and Ubuntu again because it would likely fail. Since the livecd wont boot.
[23:39] <Mint> i like ubuntu... but 10.10 dont know yet
[23:39] <Linuxaddict> I had a problem with the dell back software in windows it kept writing to the mbr
[23:39] <jparks> i'm working on figuring out why i can't launch libvirtd (other than the whole, i just compiled it thing)
[23:39] <Linuxaddict> but once I removed it
[23:39] <DJZee> jparks: yes it's a bit better.
[23:39] <Linuxaddict> then reinstalled grub
[23:39] <Linuxaddict> everything worked again
[23:39] <Linuxaddict> :)
[23:39] <Mint> :D
[23:39] <Sonic132> DJZee: Yeah...I was thinking that. But it wont install grub off the disc. I have to download it, and without internet access capable in Kubuntu Live CD. I can't.
[23:39] <jparks> was playing with FC14 today, saw virt-manager 0.8.5 in action, i can't wait to get it working on Ubuntu
[23:40] <DJZee> Sonic132: ok. so is it possible to boot any os (win or ubuntu) off your hard disk?
[23:40] <Sonic132> DJZee: Is there by any chance a Grub/Grub2 deb somewhere I could download, transfer over, and install from the livecd?
[23:40] <Sonic132> DJZee: Windows boots.
[23:40] <jparks> i refuse to try to learn how to use Fedora.. sysconfig this and chkconfig that.. i'm so stuck on Ubuntu's ease of use i've become fat and complacent
[23:40] <Mint> eeee... ubuntu 10.10 is better than windows 7 ... yeah
[23:40] <jparks> I <3 debian based distros
[23:41] <Linuxaddict> Does anyone know how to fix this issue I am having sometimes http://oi56.tinypic.com/2q8zxog.jpg
[23:41] <Sonic132> Mint: Not using 7. I have WinXP Pro Lite for Netbooks.
[23:41] <DJZee> Sonic132: well, there should be a .deb somewhere.
[23:41] <jparks> The only thing i really like about 10.10 so far is that it updates during setup, and learned how to multi-task
[23:41] <Mint> Sonic132, i have here in same computer win xp home.. (Y)
[23:41] <DJZee> Sonic132: i just haven't used grub in such a long time sorry
[23:41] <Sonic132> DJZee: Well whichever way you suggest.
[23:41] <Mint> i dont want any win vista or 7
[23:42] <Sonic132> Mint: Congrats you much have had fun.
[23:42] <jparks> It's too bad fluxbuntu fell through.. i'd like to have seen where they went with it.. i love fluxbox
[23:42] <Mint> yeah
[23:42] <Mint> a lot i guess
[23:42] <Linuxaddict> any ideas
[23:42] <frxstrem> how can I get the old Ubuntu theme (from before 9.10 or 10.04, I think)?
[23:42] <Linuxaddict> you mean gnome
[23:42] <_donvito> how to switch from gnome to kde
[23:42] <Sonic132> Ubuntu is like the hydra. There's like 20,000 heads on it.
[23:42] <Mint> frxstrem, google?
[23:42] <DJZee> frxstrem: you may be able to get it from gnome's themes site.
[23:43] <bazhang> Mint, just google is not an acceptable support advice
[23:43] <Mint> i am in ubutnu at the moment =)
[23:43] <jparks> _donvito there are a few easy and a few hard steps to do that
[23:43] <_donvito> well the safest
[23:43] <_donvito> :)
[23:43] <bazhang> _donvito, install kubuntu-desktop
[23:43] <_donvito> i need the safe
[23:43] <jparks> easiest i can suggest would be open up a terminal and type "sudo tasksel kubuntu-desktop"
[23:43] <jparks> without the quotes
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> frxstrem, not sure, but you might be able to just use "sudo apt-get install human-theme" to get the old theme (untested)
[23:44] <Mint> gfu
[23:44] <jparks> you can easily reverse it by using "sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop"
[23:44] <bazhang> Mint, what?
[23:44] <frxstrem> ZykoticK9, okay, I'll try that
[23:44] <bazhang> jparks, that wont do it
[23:44] <dasen> hi guys, can u believe i'm running natty?
[23:44] <jparks> which, tasksel or autoremove?
[23:44] <Mint> natty, where ?
[23:44] <_donvito> nertil@Maverick:~$ sudo tasksel kubuntu-desktop
[23:44] <_donvito> Usage:
[23:44] <jparks> i never (EVER) install the actual desktop
[23:44] <dasen> Mint: in my laptop
[23:44] <Linuxaddict> I keep getting this message most of the time Glib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id(0)
[23:44] <jparks> tasksel install kubuntu-desktop
[23:44] <bazhang> jparks, kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage so that wont do it. you'd want !puregnome
[23:44] <dasen> I upgraded
[23:45] <Linuxaddict> when I boot up
[23:45] <BlueMatt> anyone ever gotten mysqlnd to compile and work on an ubuntu server
[23:45] <jparks> what
[23:45] <Sonic132> frxstrem: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Old+Ubuntu+Gnome+Theme
[23:45] <Mint> dasen, lol.. i believe u now
[23:45] <jparks> it's not? hmm.. i've gotten it to work before?
[23:45] <rww> Sonic132: Don't use lmgtfy links in #ubuntu, please.
[23:45] <frxstrem> ZykoticK9, it worked :D
[23:45] <jparks> i always install from a minimal command line, i'd listen to someone else _donvito =)
[23:45] <Sonic132> What? Why?
[23:45] <Linuxaddict> any suggestions how to solve or get rid of this error Glib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id(0)
[23:45] <jparks> (which is why i use tasksel hehe)
[23:46] <bazhang> Sonic132, its not acceptable. just dont.
[23:46] <Mint> dasen, but what is natty ?
[23:46] <Mint> =)
[23:46] <calaen0> I have a custom-compiled arcmsr module that I want to try to resolve some issues with the arcmsr module that ships with Ubuntu. I have it built and it is in /lib/modules/*/extras/ However, when I restart the machine, the default module in /lib/modules/*/drivers/scsi/ gets loaded. How do I tell Ubuntu to load the module from extras/ ?
[23:46] <rww> Sonic132: It's rude. If you found something helpful using Google, link to the page you found and perhaps mention that you found it on google. No need for the indirection.
[23:46] <ZykoticK9> bazhang, actually the link provided by !puregome https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome actually says to remove the desktop package.  i got caught on this change a couple of week ago.
[23:46] <bazhang> !natty | mint dasen
[23:46] <osaucey|aw> im using the remote desktop viewer to vnc into another machine and the display isnt updating locally, but it updates fine on the remote address
[23:46] <dasen> it's the new version of ubuntu coming on april next year (isn't that the name?)
[23:46] <Mint> okay
[23:46] <Sonic132> Indirection? It's the same as using tinyurl. It gets you to the same place.
[23:46] <jparks> bazhang: what do you mean it's not a meta package? i thought tasksel was used to install meta packages?
[23:46] <kingb> is ubuntu or opensuse the better laptop distro
[23:46] <bazhang> dasen, #ubuntu+1 for that
[23:46] <furi> can someone please help me at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1616015 ? it has to do with booting problems.
[23:47] <Mint> u bot to u thx
[23:47] <rww> Sonic132: tinyurl isn't condescending or generally used here.
[23:47] <SeriouslyLaugh> Apologies if this topic has been brought up before, but the Windows program linked to for making bootable USB images on ubuntu.com tests positive for a virus "Rogue.Agent/Gen-Nullo[EXE]"
[23:47] <jparks> looking at the tasksel window (from command line) on ubuntu server 10.10 i'm given the following 3 kubuntu options to install... Kubuntu desktop, Kubuntu mobile, and Kubuntu netbook
[23:47] <BlueMatt> anyone gotten mysqlnd to compile from the ubuntu php packages
[23:47] <SeriouslyLaugh> the link can be found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download
[23:47] <Flannel> Sonic132: It's rude, that should be enough.  The whole "just google it" attitude is exceptionally rude, please refrain from it.
[23:47] <SeriouslyLaugh> and it likely a false positive
[23:47] <Sonic132> Whatever you say. I'll not use it rww.
[23:48] <rww> thanks :)
[23:48] <jc0694> does ubuntu come with default ftp/telnet support?
[23:48] <jparks> server or client?
[23:48] <BlueMatt> jc0694: yes use ftp and telnet commands
[23:48] <jc0694> client?
[23:48] <jparks> you can install either but it comes "default" with the client commands
[23:48] <jparks> yes, client, used to access the server
[23:48] <Linuxaddict> any suggestions how to solve or get rid of this error Glib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id(0)
[23:48] <jc0694> hmmmmm... can't telnet to my machine... keeps saying connection refused.  just installed ubuntu
[23:49] <ZykoticK9> jc0694, avoid using telnet where possible, ssh is a secure replacement.
[23:49] <OerHeks> SeriouslyLaugh, how did you check it ?
[23:49] <rww> jc0694: the commandline "telnet" and "ftp" programs are installed by default on all Ubuntu versions. Additionally, the Ubuntu Desktop spin has Places -> Connect to server, which supports FTP.
[23:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> OerHeks: virustotal.com
[23:49] <aroman> How should I make a backup before upgrading to Maverick?
[23:49] <Sonic132> Flannel: I've been in here numerous times and people ask me well did you Google it first? That's generally the norm here. If your here. You've already tried Googling the problem and haven't had any resolution. Those that haven't even done the first step are making things more complicated for them and everyone trying to help them.
[23:50] <rww> ubottu: google
[23:50] <SeriouslyLaugh> SUPERAntiSpyware	4.40.0.1006	2010.11.12	Rogue.Agent/Gen-Nullo[EXE]
[23:50] <Flannel> Sonic132: No, "go google it" is not the norm here.  Google only works if you have some idea what you're looking for.
[23:50] <ZykoticK9> Sonic132, please drop the google issue - it isn't up for debate.  people don't say "google it" here, it's nice ;)
[23:50] <Vogg_win32> hello again ~ still having lots of problems with ubuntu 10.04 but i noticed this in ifconfig (there seems to be a lot of errors) : RX packets:2127 errors:419 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:419 - is it possible there is some problem with the NIC or driver ?
[23:50] <blackshirt> Linuxaddict: check permition your .profile on your home directory
[23:50] <tripelb> I want to capture a streaming video. Can someone help me (I have 10.04) please!!
[23:50] <jparks> it also generally only works when searching verbatim.. i'm looking for that search engine where i just press enter and it gives me what i want.. lookin forward to 2020
[23:50] <rww> Flannel: and if you're more adept at using it than a lot of non-technical people I know :(
[23:50] <jparks> google that is
[23:50] <omegatk> i would think most the time...if someone asks a question in here they have already tried to find it themselves via google or other sources
[23:51] <Sonic132> jparks: That would be nice. The search engine that reads your intentions not what you type.
[23:52] <jparks> alright let's get to it.. then we'll pull a Google and make a mobile phone OS
[23:52] <Sonic132> So anyone want to try helping me fix my grub/mbr problem listed at the end of this article http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Old+Ubuntu+Gnome+Theme ?
[23:52] <Sonic132> Sorry wrong link!
[23:52] <Sonic132> That was an accident.
[23:52] <tripelb> I have the google-fu but sometimes it's not enough fu for the job. Like now. I want to record a streaming video. Will someone please help.  ---  "Will you wont you will you wont you? Wont you join the dance!"
[23:53] <Sonic132> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10108639#post10108639 link here.
[23:53] <kingb> is there a reason I should dl 32 bit ubuntu instead of 64 bit
[23:53] <OerHeks> SeriouslyLaugh, sorry, but i believe your scan is not correct, i tested it on http://virusscan.jotti.org/ = clean
[23:54] <Sonic132> Also, I followed a couple guides and they all end in dead ends.
[23:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok thanks OerHeks -- it's gotta be a false positive
[23:54] <Linuxaddict> brb rebooting
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> kingb: some 3rd parties still only support 32bit (like brother and canon)
[23:54] <OerHeks> SeriouslyLaugh, i hope so, maybe post to http://www.pendrivelinux.com ?
[23:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> perhaps i will, thanks OerHeks
[23:54] <DJZee> taking off dudes
[23:55] <Sonic132> Help a brother out. I want to get back to Legend of Zelda with my PS3 controller. So I need Ubuntu to work again. Took a lot of work to get it to work with everything. I don't want to start over.
[23:55] <tripelb> I asked the same  questions yesterday a couple of widelyspaced times. (tear falls) And talked at length to someone from another chatroom but he did not know. and so I return.  --- I want to record a streaming video. ----- If I look at source there are two .fld files played. So far so good. Now what?   (I use Ubuntu 10.04)  ---  !!
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> kingb: also if you have less tat 3Gb ram and dont intend to do much CPU intensive stuff then 32bit is fine
[23:56] <ctmjr> tripelb, vlc will do that also mplayer/mencoder
[23:56] <ZykoticK9> kingb, if this is the first time you are trying ubuntu, use the 32 bit version (easier, less issues to solve.  only use 64bit if you have 4+GB memory.  check out the script "getlibs" search on UbuntuForum if you need to install any 32bit libraries.  i like my 64 ;)
[23:56] <CalJohn> Sonic132: you need to give a quesiton at least 10 minutes before you get antsy :)  It takes time to read things
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: could use recordmydesktop
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> 32bit ubuntu with PAE kernel can access 64Gb RAM
[23:57] <Sonic132> CalJohn: OK. I can't see if anyone is giving my issue any thought as this is a chat room. But thanks for letting me know.
[23:57] <aeon-ltd> Sonic132: wait on a ps3? you'd trade psn access for snes/nes/n64 emulators?
[23:57] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, PAE is still a hack, no one application can use 4+GB
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> true i dislike it myself but its a thing :)
[23:58] <Sonic132> aeon-ltd: No...when Ubuntu was booting up. I had my Sixaxis controller set up and was playing Legend of Zelda on my laptop. It was awesome.
[23:59] <tripelb> I dont know how to get it to vlc. It plays in the browser ctmjr --- ActionParsnip oh, good idea. I didnt know. can I apt-get that or use a webpage to find it? (I prefer apt-get)
[23:59] <CalJohn> Sonic132: ok, so let's go through the situation you are in.  you have broken the master boot record on your machine, and you can boot neither OS, right?
[23:59] <jc0694> anybody know why when i try and telnet to my ubuntu machine it says "connection refused".  just installed ubuntu and haven't messed with any settings
[23:59] <cast> jc0694: you're not running telnetd