[04:25] <toenail> http://paste.ubuntu.com/530467/
[04:25] <toenail> the aptitude didnt work for installing software center holstein:
[04:26] <holstein> you can use synaptic if you want
[04:27] <holstein> did you run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:27] <toenail> no
[04:27] <toenail> done now try it?
[04:28] <holstein> did the machine power off in the middle of installing?
[04:28] <toenail> nope
[04:28] <holstein> interesting
[04:28] <toenail> usually does?
[04:28] <holstein> thats the only time ive seen an error like that
[04:28] <holstein> when i lost power during an update or something
[04:29] <holstein> anyways
[04:29] <holstein> try that command
[04:29] <holstein> and use synaptic
[04:29] <holstein> to install software center
[04:29] <toenail> i ran the apt get its running now
[04:30] <toenail> so do you think it could still be a kernal problem with the whole pod situation
[04:32] <holstein> OH
[04:32] <holstein> you still have trouble?
[04:32] <holstein> yeah, if your using an RT kernel
[04:33] <holstein> ans still having trouble
[04:33] <holstein> and*
[04:36] <holstein> i would look at cat /proc/interrupts
[04:36] <holstein> if we havent already
[04:36] <holstein> and just keep tweaking
[04:36] <holstein> could be that VIA chip
[04:38] <holstein> could be something in maverick though
[04:38] <holstein> ive been meaning to get a 10.10 install and confirm that the firepod works well in there for me
[04:40] <toenail> so what would i do with cat/proc ect
[04:41] <holstein> you would see what all is on the same irq with your firewire
[04:41] <holstein> if anything
[04:41] <holstein>  23:     375167   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2
[04:41] <holstein> thats one of mine
[04:41] <holstein> on my EEE
[04:41] <holstein> ideally
[04:41] <holstein> you want the firewire all by itself
[04:41] <holstein> and you can make it that way in the bios probably if its not
[04:43] <toenail> now is that a terminal command?
[04:43] <holstein> yup
[04:43] <holstein> you can run...
[04:44] <holstein> gedit /proc/interrupts
[04:44] <holstein> if you want
[04:48] <toenail> dont see a ieee1394 http://paste.ubuntu.com/530475/
[04:49] <holstein> i think it would be worth looking in the bios next boot
[04:49] <holstein>  18:       1306   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ata_piix, uhci_hcd:usb4, firewire_ohci
[04:49] <toenail> nevmind i see one firewire
[04:49] <holstein> see if you can get that off by itself
[04:50] <toenail> so just change the irq for the card your saying
[04:50] <holstein> yeah, if you can
[04:50] <holstein> some laptops dont let you :/
[04:50] <holstein> most desktops do though
[04:51] <holstein> toenail: what exactly happens?
[04:51] <toenail> yea , i remember the old isa cards were ou had to use a jumper to set an irq and none of the same could be used
[04:53] <toenail> well last night i ran rakkarak and as soon as i synced the ins and outs the pc did one of those cd skip moves (i had a station on shoutcast playing) da da da da da da da da da da da da da ect. til i hit the power switch
[04:53] <holstein> OH
[04:53] <holstein> your doing pulse to JACK then?
[04:53] <holstein> i dont use that yet at all really
[04:54] <toenail> th irq is on the left right on that link i sent you right?
[04:54] <toenail> pulse?
[04:54] <holstein> toenail: you should just poke around in the bios
[04:54] <holstein> sometimes the #'s are different
[04:54] <holstein> or can be
[04:55] <holstein> should be kinda obvious though
[04:55] <holstein> hopefully :)
[04:55] <holstein> toenail: how were you listening to a shoutcast staion?
[04:55] <holstein> with what app?
[04:55] <toenail> just waiting on open office to finish installation then ill try it
[04:56] <holstein> pulse is the audio server in ubuntu
[04:56] <holstein> and other OS's
[04:56] <holstein> use to be
[04:56] <holstein> til just now really
[04:56] <holstein> 10.10
[04:56] <holstein> JACK would suspend pulse
[04:56] <holstein> thats the way i use my audio rig
[04:56] <toenail> i dont get what your saying about this pulse
[04:56] <holstein> when i have JACK running
[04:56] <holstein> i cant open a web browser
[04:56] <holstein> and whatch a video
[04:57] <holstein> and hear anything
[04:57] <holstein> that audio is dead
[04:57] <holstein> disabled
[04:57] <holstein> while JACK is running
[04:57] <holstein> and thats the way i want it to be
[04:57] <toenail> ok?
[04:57] <holstein> JACK apps talk to each other
[04:57] <holstein> and thats all i want
[04:58] <holstein> if i want to watch a youtube vid, im probably going to be on another machine anywyas
[04:58] <holstein> anyways*
[04:58] <holstein> toenail: IF you have a shoutcast station playing
[04:58] <toenail> yea i get that but what do you mean by this pulse thing
[04:58] <holstein> and you start JACK
[04:58] <holstein> that is funky
[04:58] <holstein> already
[04:58] <holstein> you probably want to start JACK
[04:58] <holstein> get the pulse to JACK bridge going
[04:58] <toenail> oh now i get it your saying it looked up cause i had shoutcast going
[04:58] <holstein> and then start the shoutcast station
[04:59] <holstein> THEN do some work in JACK
[04:59] <holstein> BUT, i dont have any experience with that pulse to jack bridge
[04:59] <toenail> pulse ?
[04:59] <holstein> pulse audio
[04:59] <holstein> thats what normal ubuntu uses
[04:59] <holstein> and other distros
[04:59] <toenail> ok i dont have it
[04:59] <holstein> yup
[04:59] <holstein> you should
[04:59] <holstein> unless you got rid of it
[05:00] <holstein> thats what ubuntu will be using
[05:00] <holstein> til you start JACK
[05:00] <holstein> then, JACK takes over everything
[05:00] <toenail> no i didnt this is like a retard running windows well not really but for the first time i have no idea what im doing
[05:00] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[05:01] <toenail> but know enough to were i wont uninstall things that i think could be usefull
[05:01] <holstein> i can only speak about my own workflow
[05:01] <holstein> BUT the idea of pulse going to JACK is quite new
[05:01] <holstein> and totally cool
[05:01] <holstein> BUT i dont need it
[05:02] <holstein> i start JACK, pulse is suspended
[05:02] <holstein> then i got access to the pod's ins and outs
[05:02] <holstein> and whatever else JACK can use
[05:03] <holstein> which is most everything
[05:05] <toenail> ok so if i install the patches it wont lock up if i want to listen to music while useing the pod. for instance i would want to lay along with a song on there and maybe record it (classical)
[05:06] <holstein> in theory
[05:06] <holstein> there are other players
[05:06] <holstein> with jack support
[05:07] <holstein> audacious i think
[05:07] <holstein> i dont really use it like that
[05:07] <holstein> BUT yeah, its do-able
[05:07] <toenail> ok
[05:09] <toenail> the weird thing about audacios might be getting it confussed with another program but its setup is like winamp but with maverick its like windows media player maybe its a skin thing . im a winamp fan myself
[05:09] <holstein> yeah, i used to be
[05:09] <toenail> oh you know i might be thinking of xmms i think
[05:09] <toenail> oh ok
[05:09] <holstein> i use VLC mostly
[05:12] <holstein> if i want to play along with something
[05:12] <holstein> i usually just import it into ardour
[05:12] <toenail> im gonna try rack without restarting and running anything else
[05:13] <toenail> its ok ill figure that out after i get the bassics down
[05:39] <toenail> i get esily confussed thats why i said that wasnt try to be a a55
[05:39] <toenail> easily*
[05:43] <airlynx> Hey there, I've no idea where to start with this, but I seem to have a problem with PulseAudio or ALSA, audio for applications will run for about 15 minutes or so and then suddenly quit, in Audacious I can use JACK and my audio will not quit, but it will if I use either PulseAudio or ALSA
[05:44] <airlynx> I'm using 10.04, I've found this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/414217 but it doesn't seem completely accurate and not very descriptive