[00:02] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196303 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (8 files in 2 dirs) Add a rudimentary breadcrumb widget. At the moment you can't go up without forgetting where you just were, and it's not very pretty yet (completeness before paint(), I always say), but it is useable
[00:26] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196309 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Only delete previous views when we are going down a level from a parent that already has a child
[00:39] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196318 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (AvailableView.cpp AvailableView.h) Fix a bug where you could not go back to a category you had been to if you visited another category in between
[00:40] <JontheEchidna> Yay, breadcrumb works pretty reliably now. Just gotta make the categories view handle subcategories...
[01:13] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196323 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (AvailableView.cpp AvailableView.h) Stop ApplicationWidgets from accumulating when going back to a category's package listing and clicking a new category
[01:21] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196325 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (3 files in 2 dirs) Icon support for Breadcrumbs
[01:23] <JontheEchidna> http://imgur.com/VEIfS
[01:28] <JontheEchidna> gotta write a QPushButton subclass with a neat paint() function to make the breadcrumbs pretty
[01:28]  * JontheEchidna will rip the one off of amarok's breadcrumb button widget
[01:30] <JontheEchidna> or maybe just "borrow" the whole widget P-:
[01:30] <JontheEchidna> P-: == smiley
[01:55] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196332 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (9 files in 2 dirs) "Borrow" the BreadcrumbItemButton from Amarok and tweak it to suit our purposes... isn't open soure great? ;-)
[02:03] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196333 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/AvailableView.cpp Use a horizontal KSeparator to separate the BreadcrumbWidget from the rest of the view
[02:04] <JontheEchidna> just needs arrows in the breadcrumb: http://imgur.com/mUvlH
[03:18] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196341 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/BreadcrumbWidget/BreadcrumbWidget.cpp I can't figure out how to get arrows and icons on the breadcrumbs without screwing up the painting, so keep the icons and space the crumbs a bit more
[03:31] <valorie> \o/ for code re-use!
[04:29] <dasKreech> valorie: I'd like to express something but I'll reuse your \o/
[04:33] <valorie> lol
[04:35] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196348 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/AvailableView.cpp Don't crash when going forward to a widget we just went back from
[04:35] <JontheEchidna> technically it's a code copy, which is somewhat not \o/
[04:36] <dasKreech> \o
[04:36] <JontheEchidna> o/
[04:36] <valorie> lol
[04:36] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196349 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (6 files in 2 dirs) We are not at all pressed for space here, so an eliding button doesn't really make sense in our case
[04:37] <valorie> why isn't code copying good too?
[04:37] <valorie> why overwork the brain and fingers when you don't have to?
[04:41] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196350 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (AvailableView.cpp BreadcrumbWidget/BreadcrumbWidget.h) Correctly bold breadcrumb items when navigating back to already-visited views
[04:41] <JontheEchidna> having two separate copies of the code mean that fixes in one don't make it to the other
[04:42] <JontheEchidna> sharing code in the form of a shared library is great, but a code copy is not so great
[04:45] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196351 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/AvailableView.cpp I really, really wish QStandardItems were not editable by default :/
[04:51] <valorie> well, I see that point
[04:52] <valorie> however, display code seems a bit different to me
[04:52] <valorie> if you truly were doing a fix, I'll bet you would send a patch along to amarok
[04:53] <JontheEchidna> probably. It's not a very big class at all. Just a thin wrapper over a QPushButton with a different appearance, so it's not that big of a deal
[04:53] <valorie> otoh, if it's something lots of people will use, you could always make it a little lib
[04:53] <valorie> seems a bit obscure though
[04:54] <JontheEchidna> A KBreadcrumbWidget framework would be neat
[04:54] <JontheEchidna> might be a bit hard to make it generic enough for everybody, yet flexible enough for everybody
[04:55] <JontheEchidna> well, I'm satisified with my breadcrumb for tonight: http://imgur.com/H74Bu
[04:58] <JontheEchidna> g'night
[04:58] <dasKreech> night
[04:59] <dasKreech> haha are those lil icons instead of arrows?
[04:59] <dasKreech> that's neat
[05:42] <CIA-42> [muon] yurchor * 1196355 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationWidget.cpp fix typo
[09:19] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: i got commit access to KDE :P
[09:19] <evilshadeslayer> whee
[09:20] <valorie> that's a relief
[09:20] <valorie> what if an EVIL shadeslayer had commit access!
[09:24] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[09:57] <apachelogger> neversfelde: a translation of what?
[09:58] <apachelogger> Quintasan: surely the name is awesome
[09:58] <apachelogger> evilnhandler_: I wonder if that is good :P
[09:59] <apachelogger> dantti: IMHO printd should not be a d at all
[09:59] <apachelogger> more like a tray app
[10:17] <CIA-42> [print-manager] sitter * 1196389 * trunk/playground/base/print-manager/add-printer/AddPrinterAssistant.cpp hide help button since currently there is no help
[10:34] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: there is a typo in installer/ApplicationWidget.cpp:163, there is an extra 's'
[10:38] <apachelogger> eheheheh
[10:38] <apachelogger> dantti: that CupsThreadRequest looks odd
[10:40] <apachelogger> dantti: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2006/12/04/threading-without-the-headache/ seems more like what was intended
[10:45] <valorie> apachelogger: http://thereifixedit.failblog.org/2010/11/10/white-trash-repairs-my-little-soldering-iron/
[10:47] <apachelogger> ahahaha, the blog post by doctormo is awesome
[10:48] <apachelogger> much truth in there, even on a $DEPRJECT vs $DISTRO level
[10:48] <apachelogger> valorie: zomg!
[10:49] <valorie> cute/disturbing
[10:49] <apachelogger> uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:49] <apachelogger> kdualaction
[10:49] <valorie> every time I look at it I can't decide which side wins
[10:50] <apachelogger> aurelien is my hero
[10:50] <apachelogger> valorie: disturbing clearly
[10:50] <apachelogger> how would you like to get things plugged into your forehead?
[10:51] <apachelogger> ... => disturbing
[10:53] <valorie> well, but I'm a sentient being
[10:53] <valorie> I guess I haven't watched Toy Story enough
[10:53] <apachelogger> AND UNICORNS ARE NOT!?!??!?!!?!!?!??!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?FNb/n
[10:53] <valorie> rofl
[10:53] <valorie> but clearly, this would be a most useful unicorn!
[10:54] <valorie> especially if you have some flux around
[10:54] <valorie> a little hardware geek unicorn
[11:01]  * apachelogger is creeped out by hardware geeks
[11:01] <apachelogger> they are a bit like nano
[11:02] <apachelogger> yay
[11:02] <apachelogger> woohooo
[11:03] <apachelogger> ScottK: ice cream!
[11:03] <apachelogger> do you like vanilla? :D
[11:25] <CIA-42> [print-manager] sitter * 1196402 * trunk/playground/base/print-manager/printer-manager-kcm/PrinterDescription.ui (log message trimmed)
[11:25] <CIA-42> When using a form layout, the layout needs to allow expanding for expanding
[11:25] <CIA-42> widgets or text will be cut off. Word-wrap apparently does not have any effect
[11:25]  * apachelogger should go buy stuff
[11:26]  * apachelogger needs food and usb cables and usb hubs and alcohol and a space ship
[11:26] <ulysses> s/space\ ship/TARDIS/
[11:27] <valorie> where ya goin' in the spaceship?
[11:27] <apachelogger> home
[11:27] <valorie> lol
[11:28] <apachelogger> ulysses: is that sed?
[11:28]  * apachelogger thinks we should use supremacy and go with :%s/space ship /TARDIS/
[11:28] <apachelogger> silly whitespace escapes
[11:29] <ulysses> I hope
[11:30] <apachelogger> ulysses: surely one can avoid the whitespace escape in a sed context too
[11:30]  * apachelogger thinks the whitespace escapes where unnecessary and ulysses is messing with apachelogger's madness
[11:30] <apachelogger> :%s/madness/sanity/
[11:31]  * apachelogger finds qformlayouts very strange
[11:34] <dantti> apachelogger: not sure that site solves the problem, would thread->start() make thread his own parent?
[11:34] <apachelogger> hm, my docs blog post needs some work
[11:35] <apachelogger> dantti: why would it need to be its own parent?
[11:35] <apachelogger> (the thread of itself that is)
[11:35] <apachelogger> sounds kinda sick too ^^
[11:35] <dantti> because the problem is that the thread object was not created inside a thread so the signals are not received by the thread itself that's basic qt threading
[11:36] <dantti> I mean all thread slots actually run on the creator of the thread which makes the thread useless
[11:37] <apachelogger> not sure I flollow
[11:37] <dantti> at first i didn't understand but after thiago telling me this was how it works i understant
[11:37] <apachelogger> at the point you move an object to a thread it will run within the context of the thread's eventloop
[11:38] <dantti> apachelogger: ok, but I can move the QThread subclass to itself?
[11:38] <dantti> *can I
[11:38] <apachelogger> why do you need the sublcass?
[11:38] <apachelogger> the idea is that you do not need to sublcass at all
[11:38] <apachelogger> but have an object, create it in the current thread and then move it to a generic QThread
[11:38] <dantti> hmm right, ok
[11:40] <dantti> apachelogger: but that blog post says that you still have to have a QThread subclass to call exec()
[11:40] <apachelogger> not anymore
[11:40] <apachelogger> that got changed in 4.4 or so
[11:40] <dantti> Qt alread does this?
[11:40] <dantti> ok
[11:40] <apachelogger> the default qthread now implements a run that calls exec
[11:40] <dantti> well that code is very sensible but I'll try to do that..
[11:41] <apachelogger> dantti: also, I think we need to look into the qformlayout for the kcm description widget
[11:41] <apachelogger> that sizing in there does not look l10n/fontsize save at all
[11:41] <dantti> go to go church now.. or I gona be late :P cya later
[11:42] <apachelogger> dantti: btw, what in particular is not implemented with the add printer dialog?
[11:42] <apachelogger> from what I have seen it actually adds local printers just fine
[11:42] <apachelogger> then again it failed for me since I used bogus device URIs ^^
[11:43] <dantti> apachelogger: well, the py thing has some smarteness like probing a samba server, and suggesting a proper dirver
[11:43] <apachelogger> ah
[11:43] <apachelogger> ok
[11:43] <apachelogger> own ppd file is also not working ;)
[11:43] <dantti> also it add printers automaggically which printd needs to get notified and call add-printer
[11:44] <apachelogger> printd needs to be made printray :P
[11:44] <dantti> well it goes in kded so d:P
[11:44] <apachelogger> that needs to be changed
[11:44] <apachelogger> or is there use that actually is daemonish?
[11:45] <dantti> it is, it periodically check for new jobs
[11:45] <apachelogger> that is tray use
[11:45] <dantti> to show a printer tray icon
[11:45] <apachelogger> that is the problem there... the daemon is way too fat because it incorporates ui stuff, which it really should not do
[11:46] <apachelogger> kdeds should be lightwight and notify consumers about interesting events
[11:46] <dantti> well any way need to go now... cya
[11:46] <apachelogger> dantti: o/
[11:46] <apachelogger> at the least the daemon should be split into tray and actual daemon
[11:47] <apachelogger> however that has little merit since the daemon only watches for new printers and only has one consumer (the tray icon)
[13:03] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196434 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationWidget.cpp Typo fixes for i18n context
[13:10] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196435 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (7 files) Rename ApplicationWidget -> ApplicationDetailsWidget
[13:35] <apparle> Is there anyway to decide what notifications should be minimized into the notifcation widget, and what are just shown and then discarded and not stored
[13:36] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196440 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Move more category-modelish stuff down into the CategoryView
[15:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: which phone do you have btw?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: Desire Z isnt available here, and its supposed to be coming after 3 months, i dont want to wait that logn
[15:03] <Quintasan> :/
[15:03] <Quintasan> meh
[15:03] <Quintasan> dunno then
[15:03] <Quintasan> get something else then
[15:03] <shadeslayer> Probably the desire
[15:04] <shadeslayer> wth
[15:04] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: you cant install apps on the SD card?
[15:04] <Quintasan> Well, there are two ways to install apps on SD
[15:04] <Quintasan> apps2sd in Froyo
[15:05] <Quintasan> or
[15:05] <shadeslayer> does it require rooting and such?
[15:05] <Quintasan> create and ext3 or 2 or even 4 partition on your SDcard and symlink the partition as /data/data
[15:05] <shadeslayer> that sounds better
[15:05] <Quintasan> apps2sd in Froyo doesnt require any ingerention in software
[15:06] <Quintasan> however not all apps support native apps2sd
[15:06] <shadeslayer> so symlinking is better?
[15:06] <Quintasan> but if you symlink the partition as /data/data they have nothing to complain about because they won't even know that they are on sdcard
[15:06] <Quintasan> it is better
[15:06] <Quintasan> but u need rootz
[15:06] <shadeslayer> and does that require rooting?
[15:06] <shadeslayer> ah
[15:06] <shadeslayer> :P
[15:06] <Quintasan> and you need to format your sd card
[15:07] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: you don't want to root your phone?
[15:07] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: after i root the SD card, can i un-root it?
[15:07] <Quintasan> lol dude
[15:07] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i dont have a phone right now :P
[15:07] <shadeslayer> wait
[15:07] <shadeslayer> s/SDcard/Phone
[15:07] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Android is basically Linux
[15:07] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:07] <Quintasan> yeah, you can unroot it
[15:07] <Quintasan> it's just two files
[15:07] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: im concerned about the warranty shitz :P
[15:07] <shadeslayer> incase i break it and such
[15:07] <Quintasan> usually /system/xbin/su and /system/apps/Superuser.apk
[15:08] <shadeslayer> ah kewl
[15:08] <Quintasan> unless you are flashing ROM you can't break it permamently by rooting
[15:08] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: so the HTC page says the desire supports face recognition, the reviews say it doesnt....
[15:09] <shadeslayer> oh and the reseller told me HTC doesnt have a good reputation for keyboards
[15:09] <Quintasan> lol
[15:09] <Quintasan> their on-screen keyboard is the most popular android keyboard
[15:09] <Quintasan> and QWERTY in desire z is apparently better than the milestone one
[15:09] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: the physical one .......
[15:10] <Quintasan> read XDA instead of asking resellers
[15:10] <Quintasan> they will want you to buy the most useless phones they have on stock :P
[15:11] <shadeslayer> lol
[15:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: any comments on the Desire
[15:15] <Quintasan> Well, I had it in my hands only for few hours but I was quite impressed
[15:15] <Quintasan> Looked like a nice phone
[15:15] <Quintasan> Has a few rock solid ROMs on XDA
[15:18] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667 << .exe files? :O
[15:19] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I think those are self-extracting archives
[15:21] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i cant see a LED on the Desire
[15:21] <shadeslayer> does it have one? ( the status notifying LED )
[15:22] <Quintasan> >I can confirm red when the battery is low, orange when it is charging, and green when it is fully powered, AND when there are notifications.
[15:23] <shadeslayer> where it it?
[15:23] <shadeslayer> *is it?
[15:23] <Quintasan> upper right corner I think
[15:24] <Quintasan> http://www.xda-developers.com/android/toggle-blue-led-on-htc-desire/
[15:24] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: xda is your best resource on HTC phones
[15:25] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: im still trying to get my way around that site :P
[15:25] <shadeslayer> ahh 
[15:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: a space invader 3000
[15:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: :O ... it didnt look like one
[15:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, it is disgusing as something else for you native terrans
[15:30] <shadeslayer> ahh
[15:32] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: should i wait for android 2.3 or just go with the desire
[15:32] <Quintasan> no idea
[15:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you should get a n900
[15:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: its a fricking old phone
[15:33] <apachelogger> or wait for the n900+k - zomg edition
[15:33] <shadeslayer> epicly old
[15:33] <shadeslayer> the wait would kill ne
[15:33] <shadeslayer> *me
[15:34] <yofel> I found the 'please connect  to the Pc Suite to update' message for the last Maemo5 update my n900 amusing, apt-get dist-upgrade FTW :D
[15:34] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[15:36]  * apachelogger thinks his eyephone is malfunctioning
[15:43]  * claydoh craves a Galaxy Tab - a big android phone,  but without the phone 
[15:59] <Quintasan> It's about the time Quintasan starts learning physics instead of wasting time
[16:00]  * Quintasan has caught many bad grades just beacause he was lazy
[16:05] <apachelogger> argh
[16:05] <apachelogger> no jt around
[16:05] <apachelogger> -.-
[16:10] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You should be able to run Kubuntu Mobile on  (n900).
[16:25] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i can also run debian on the Desire :P
[16:25] <ScottK> No plasma mobile in Debian.
[16:26] <shadeslayer> ScottK: N900 is way too outdated
[16:27] <CIA-42> [kdebase-workspace] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20101113162734-n6ef3crgzt0r3crx * debian/ (changelog patches/series) (log message trimmed)
[16:27] <CIA-42> Add kubuntu_01_kdewallpapers_install.diff, which adds a button to the Plasma
[16:27] <CIA-42> wallpaper config to easily install the kdewallpapers package. The button is only
[16:28] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra?field.series_filter=natty << bluedevil packaged, can someone sponsor them :)
[16:28] <shadeslayer> night all
[16:31] <CIA-42> [kdebase-workspace] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20101113163145-vtyw5y9rqfcwjx7o * debian/ (3 files in 2 dirs) rename to 03 and actually add patch
[16:32] <CIA-42> [kdebase-workspace] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20101113163203-1xdhz5mutobac33v * debian/patches/series add knewstuff patch to series
[16:36] <CIA-42> [kubuntu-debug-installer] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20101113163634-ave13bsder3f5yi0 * debian/changelog releasing version 11.04ubuntu1
[16:50]  * neversfelde is back online
[17:01] <ScottK> apachelogger: Yes.  Actually vanilla is my favorite.  Thanks for the ice cream.
[18:32] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did you work on docbook fixing?  kmetronome is broken due to this and could stand a fixup.
[18:33] <shadeslayer> ScottK: sure can do, but this really needs upstream poking
[18:33] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Yes, but they are generally more responsive when you have a patch in hand.
[18:33] <shadeslayer> but.. i cant do it this week, i can only do it next week :)
[18:34] <ScottK> shadeslayer: OK.  Next week starts tomorrow, so that's fine.
[18:34] <shadeslayer> the week after that :P
[18:34] <shadeslayer> im looking at the FTBFS rho
[18:34] <shadeslayer> *tho
[18:34] <ScottK> Thanks.
[18:34] <shadeslayer> bahaha
[18:35] <shadeslayer> is kmetronome in git/svn ?
[18:36] <ScottK> No idea.
[18:36] <ScottK> Just saw it on the FTBFS page.
[18:36] <shadeslayer> ok
[18:41] <shadeslayer> ScottK: heh http://pastebin.com/Nr8Pk6Nx
[18:43] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You have Universe enabled?
[18:43] <ScottK> libdrumstick-dev is most definitely not a virtual package.
[18:43] <shadeslayer> hmm... natty pbuilder might not have it 
[18:44] <shadeslayer> lemme check
[18:44] <shadeslayer> universe not enabled :P
[19:03] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ive uploaded the fixed package to https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra?field.series_filter=natty
[19:04] <shadeslayer> so thats 3 packages that need sponsoring
[19:04] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did you and Quintasan agree on who's bluedevil package we'd use?
[19:05] <shadeslayer> uh... afaik he said he was testing my packages
[19:05] <ScottK> Did he give you a result?
[19:07] <rbelem> shadeslayer, ScottK, do you know where i can find kdelibs coding style?
[19:08] <ScottK> rbelem: JontheEchidna and apachelogger know about that.
[19:08] <rbelem> cool :-)
[19:08] <shadeslayer> rbelem: http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Kdelibs_Coding_Style
[19:09] <shadeslayer> ^^ for when theyre not around :P
[19:10] <rbelem> thx shadeslayer :-)
[19:33] <ScottK> shadeslayer: kmetronome uploaded.  Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu.
[19:33] <shadeslayer> kewl :)
[19:33] <maco> Riddell: you around? i need someone with epoxy experience
[20:54] <ScottK> What kind of epoxy?
[21:16] <maco> ScottK: im using shoe-goo and wanted to know how to smooth it out... but the itnernet said ice cubes, so i went with that
[21:16] <ScottK> OK.
[21:17] <ScottK> Can't argue with the internet.
[21:18] <apachelogger> you can, you'd need to go into pornography though...
[21:19]  * apachelogger needs more minions
[21:19] <apachelogger> this world needs a libphononexperimental package
[21:23]  * JontheEchidna is listening to Uzi Does It Ft. Chevy Jones by Get Busy Committee on Uzi Does It [Amarok]
[21:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: You should probably speak to our phonon maintainer about that.
[21:23] <ScottK> Oh wait ....
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> heh
[21:23] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: what's the story w/ libphononexperimental anyways?
[21:24] <JontheEchidna> seems like that should just be another git branch in trunk
[21:24] <apachelogger> why?
[21:24] <apachelogger> it extends phonon with features that are not yet ready for primetime
[21:27] <JontheEchidna> just wondering why it needs to be a whole shared library
[21:27] <JontheEchidna> out of curiosity, especially since I don't do Phonon hacking
[21:28] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: because it is not part of Qt's phonon for example ;)
[21:28] <JontheEchidna> Argh. Yeah, I can see how that would make things weird
[21:29]  * JontheEchidna notes that one course of action suggested in the UDS summary is to bring torches to Brisbane for inflicting QtMultimediaKit on us
[21:29] <JontheEchidna> ;)
[21:32] <apachelogger> I was thinking about sending a printer....
[21:32] <apachelogger> oh my
[21:32] <apachelogger> did I just write that
[21:32] <apachelogger> oh dear oh dear
[21:33] <apachelogger> Mamarok: kde bug 226329 is all messed up
[21:33]  * apachelogger counts at least 3 problems that are not even related
[21:34] <apachelogger> one being PEBKAC
[21:41]  * ScottK is tired of waiting for management to make a decision about the whole IT/Thumb2 thing and so is fixoring packages.
[21:42] <apachelogger> ScottK: fix0r the pkg-kde-tools :P
[21:42] <ScottK> You think?
[21:42] <ScottK> OK.
[21:42] <apachelogger> well, fixing it in each package is way more work
[21:43] <apachelogger> also if management comes after you with a big poking stick you do not need to revert a bazillion packages ^^
[21:57] <tazz> hey i am having trouble building kde from trunk, specifically polkit from kdesupport here is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/531410/
[21:59] <apachelogger> sudo apt-get install pkg-config
[22:00] <tazz> pkg-config is already the newest version.
[22:00] <apachelogger> whoops
[22:00] <apachelogger> my bade
[22:00] <apachelogger> !find polkit-gobject
[22:01] <apachelogger> tazz: ^
[22:01] <tazz> libpolkit-gobject-1-0 is already the newest version.
[22:01] <tazz> libpolkit-gobject-1-dev is already the newest version.
[22:01] <tazz> :-/
[22:01] <tazz> thats the problem.
[22:03] <yofel> erm, if you mean polkit-qt-1, that's not in kdesupport anymore, and polkit-qt won't build on anything newer than lucid since lucid is the last version that has polkit 0.9
[22:05] <tazz> yofel, it seems you are right, but dont i need it while building kdelib, for someof the backend stuff ?
[22:06] <yofel> our project-neon-kdelibs package currently builds fine without polkit-qt-1, but cmake says it's strongly recommended (kauth stuff I think)
[22:06] <tazz> yofel, exactly
[22:06] <yofel> well, polkit-qt-1 is here now if you need it: http://gitweb.kde.org/polkit-qt-1.git
[22:07] <tazz> yofel, thats where i am pulling it from, but i thought it was under kdesupport, so i pulled it under kdesupport.
[22:09] <tazz> ah, let it be, i'll justgo ahead without it :p
[22:11] <yofel> it *was* until recently, they moved it to git on 2010-10-26 (kdesupport r1189944)
[22:12] <apachelogger> tazz: maybe their cmake file is crap(tm)
[22:13]  * tazz shrugs if its good enough for kde trunk, kubuntu its good enough for me...
[22:13] <tazz> :)
[22:15] <apachelogger> it is not part of kde trunk
[22:16] <tazz> yea its not any more, so i need not worry
[22:17] <tazz> thanks for pointing that out, yofel apachelogger 
[22:17] <apachelogger> tazz: it never was :P
[22:17] <apachelogger> it is part of kdesupport
[22:17] <apachelogger> that is a whole different story 
[22:17] <tazz> doh!
[22:17] <yofel> heh
[22:19]  * yofel hits cmake with a sledgehammer
[22:20] <yofel> stupid error output, it's not that it doesn't find the package, it's that it doesn't make a difference between 'package not there' and 'package version too old' *-.-
[22:21] <yofel> tazz: you'll have to pull polkit from natty should you need polkit-qt-1
[22:21] <apachelogger> that is when you do not implement non-crappy cmake stuff :P
[22:21] <apachelogger> yofel: or just use the regular polkit :P
[22:21]  * yofel was thinking in project-neon dimensions :P
[22:21] <tazz> hehe, for now i dont need polkit, when i do i'll probably help fix it.
[22:22] <yofel> out TODO list only gets longer... *sigh*
[22:22]  * apachelogger wanted neon out the door the week after uds.....
[22:23] <tazz> btw i would like to help with neon stuff, its just that i am new to packaging in kubuntu and havent had any solid success building even a single package.
[22:23] <tazz> s/neon/neon natty/
[22:25] <yofel> natty is on hold until bug 669703 is fixed
[22:25] <yofel> we have *some* packages for maverick and lucid so far
[22:25] <yofel> current TODO https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/Packaging
[22:26]  * tazz looks
[22:26] <yofel> here's the ppa if you want to use something from it https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa/+packages
[22:28] <yofel> the kde* package aren't really ready yet, but kdesupport stuff should be fine to use
[22:32] <apachelogger> ScottK: whom could we poke with that bug?
[22:32] <ScottK> The Launchpad bug?
[22:32] <apachelogger> aye
[22:32]  * apachelogger considers poking jcastro to poke someone for lack of better ideas
[22:33] <ScottK> I'd ask barry on Monday (or if you see him before) who best to poke.
[22:33] <apachelogger> very well
[22:33] <apachelogger> yofel: ^
[22:35] <yofel> thanks, natty isn't that much of a priority though currently..
[22:35] <yofel> tazz: btw, if you're interested visit us in #project-neon
[22:43] <apparle> why can't I install services in dolphin from the get new services?
[22:46] <apachelogger> huh?
[22:46] <apparle> apachelogger: whatever services I install, don't appear
[22:46] <apachelogger> there is a get new service thing for service menus?
[22:46] <apachelogger> anyhow
[22:47] <apachelogger> most likely the creators were unable to package their crap properly
[22:50] <apparle> apachelogger: I tried 2-3 packages, neither of them appear on the menu
[22:54] <apparle> apachelogger: what are the packages have to be made like?
[22:54] <apachelogger> I have no idea
[22:55] <apparle> :D
[23:16] <apparle> guys, the new notification system has got problems... particularly with kopete and quassel
[23:17] <apparle> a 15 min chat with someone and the notification widget is filled up with all the messages and useful ones get hidden
[23:47] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196729 * trunk/ (13 files in 4 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[23:47] <CIA-42> I did some thinking and have made some vast improvements to the view hierarchy.
[23:47] <CIA-42> Before, the root view (AvailableView in this instance) was doing it all: Housing
[23:48] <JontheEchidna> Sketching out heirarchies really helps
[23:49] <JontheEchidna> *hierarchies
[23:49] <JontheEchidna> who needs some fancy-schmancy diagramming program? pencil + paper ftw
[23:50] <JontheEchidna> I keep mine in a notebook. It's fun seeing how designs evolve the more you think about them
[23:59] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1196740 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/CategoryView/CategoryViewWidget.cpp Don't leak subviews