[00:12] <roxy_> djustice: *getting annoyed* :P
[00:26] <MagikGimp> Hi, anybody there?
[00:26] <James147> MagikGimp: yup
[00:27] <MagikGimp> Can I ask a novice question? Are you up for such a dull thing?
[00:27] <James147> !ask | MagikGimp
[00:27] <MagikGimp> hokay
[00:27] <MagikGimp> Bare with me
[00:28] <MagikGimp> OK, so just installed
[00:28] <MagikGimp> Put GRUB2 (presumably) in /boot
[00:28] <MagikGimp> But that partition hasn't been set to boot
[00:29] <MagikGimp> Only Windows comes up. Now I know I can read about changing this but I'm worried doing so will mess with Windows' boot Windows or Recovery Console menu
[00:29] <MagikGimp> Am I making any sense?
[00:29] <MagikGimp> I can't seem to find anyone else with the same concern
[00:29] <MagikGimp> If I change the MBR will that menu still appear when I choose to boot Windows?
[00:30] <James147> MagikGimp: generally you install grub to the mbr of the disk (not the partition) the config files will go in /boo though... but yes, installing grub will overwrite the windows bootloader in the mbr, although this isnt normally a problem, you can always use a windows recovery disk to install it back again should you want to remove linux
[00:30] <James147> !grub2 | MagikGimp for more info
[00:31] <James147> MagikGimp: what will happen if you install to the mbr, grub will boot, and ahve an option to boot to windows, which will chain load the windows boot loader
[00:33] <MagikGimp> But that menu, will it still be there? I know the Recovery Console is NOT in its own partition but I have no idea where the menu comes from. Wait, isn't it something you can fiddle with in.... slipped my mind (you type something into the Run box). Anyway, I think you've answered the question by saying that it should stay intact so many thanks, I'll go read one of the many mess with the MBR
[00:33] <MagikGimp> threads. Cheers!
[00:34] <MagikGimp> Goodnight James, I'll do it in the morning (half midnight here)
[01:30] <daniel3> In xchat running on Kubuntu 10.10, Im getting an error "Unable to set transparent background".  Anyone else got this error before?
[01:35] <JontheEchidna> daniel3: desktop effects would probably have to be enabled for that to work, so that would be the first thing I would check
[01:35] <JontheEchidna> But I use konversation, so I don't know if I can be of much more use than that
[01:35] <daniel3> They are.  I have the cube animation and stuff like that.  Ill look for a more specific option.
[01:35] <daniel3> Oh man.
[01:35] <daniel3> I forgot about Konversation.
[01:36] <daniel3> Ive been deployed, this is the first time ive been able to use linux in like 6 months.
[01:36] <daniel3> Does Konversation support transparent backgrounds?
[01:37] <daniel3> Why does Kubuntu have QuasselIRC as the default IRC client?
[01:48] <IHeartLinux> I am having trouble installing Kubuntu.  I also tried Ubuntu.
[01:51] <daniel3> So Konversation doesn't have the ability to set a transparent background?
[01:53] <tsimpson> daniel3: xchat probably requires metacity or compiz running
[01:54] <moetunes> nope xchat doesn't
[01:55] <daniel3> moetunes: Then why wouldn't xchat let me set a transparent background under KDE 4.5.1 in Kubuntu?
[01:55] <moetunes> it does a transparent background here in fluxbox
[01:55] <moetunes> daniel3:  no idea
[01:55] <daniel3> hrm..
[02:00] <daniel3> There, I just made Konversations Window transparent.
[02:00] <daniel3> Love KDE's windows settings.
[02:16] <jmichaelx> daniel3: what do you mean by transparent window?
[02:16] <daniel3> I made the entire Konversation window transparent using KDE's windows settings.
[02:18] <daniel3> I like keeping my IRC client and terminal transparent.
[02:18] <daniel3> But I use yakauke for my terminal, which is a wonderful program
[02:19] <daniel3> Triple booted my Mac Book Pro with OS X 10.6.4, Windows 7 Home Premium, and Kubuntu 10.10.  So trying to customize KDE to my liking.
[02:23] <goodtime> ke keeping my IRC client and terminal transparent.
[02:23] <goodtime> [21:18] <daniel3> But I use yakauke for m
[02:23] <goodtime> whoa
[02:23] <goodtime> sorry
[02:24] <daniel3> lol
[02:29] <daniel3> I really wish Quanta would upgrade for kde4.
[02:32] <jmichaelx> daniel3: i have been wishing that too for some time.... i once looked into whether or not anyone was even working on porting it to KDE4, and do not even remember what i found
[02:33] <daniel3> According to their website, the last update was years ago.  Quanta is a great program, but it looks be to abandoned.
[02:36] <daniel3> My last civilian job was a lead web developer for a startup company.  Boss introduces me to Quanta.  It's probably one of the better few.  Now Im going to Iraq very soon, so guess I don't get to do web development for a little while.
[02:38] <jmichaelx> i will try to not turn things to politics, but if you are military, i wish you could do web dev instead of being deployed as well
[02:38] <jmichaelx> daniel3: quanta is really nice, a lot of people liked it
[02:40] <jmichaelx> do you still use the kde3 version in the repos?
[02:40] <daniel3> So besides Kate, whats a good light weight php editor for KDE?
[02:52] <ubuntu> anyone here able to point me to a technical support channel? i would post in a forum but i need my problem fixed by midnight(5 hours from now)
[02:53] <bazhang> Darrick, for kubuntu? ask here
[02:54] <Deamonsoul> well not precisely for kubunto... im trying to use kubunto to fix my problem cuz its the only thing that works... at all
[02:54] <bazhang> Deamonsoul, for what then
[02:57] <Deamonsoul> i have windows 7 but it wont boot (normal or safe) i have ultimate boot cd but it wont boot. i have windows 7 disks but they wont help and i have kubunto disk which runs live perfectly fine... and im trying to get windows 7 to boot cuz i have like half doneuniversity homework done that i need to hand in by midnight... if i can access my drive it will do for now but i have 3 partitions C D and Z (in windows) the only one that will mount in kubuto is z
[02:57] <Deamonsoul> and i have to force it to, i just get errors for the other two
[02:58] <bazhang> Deamonsoul, is kubuntu even installed on this machine?
[02:59] <Deamonsoul> no its running live off its dvd
[02:59] <Deamonsoul> thats why i didnt think this was the place to ask
[02:59] <bazhang> Deamonsoul, tried ##windows ?
[03:02] <Deamonsoul> ill try
[03:17] <Deamonsoul> Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[03:17] <Deamonsoul> error when i try to mount a partition
[03:39] <comawhite> what's the best way to create a package for kubuntu for my application?
[03:40] <moetunes> !packaging
[03:41] <comawhite> thank you moetunes
[03:41] <moetunes> np :)
[03:42] <mrmcq2u> When I go into desktop effects everythng is greyed out including the tabs
[03:42] <mrmcq2u> any ideas?
[03:43] <LeeJunFan> mrmcq2u: dri isn't working on your graphics drivers.
[03:43] <mrmcq2u> it was a few hours ago
[03:43] <mrmcq2u> :)
[03:44] <LeeJunFan> I had an issue once like that when DRI was working I ended up having to delete a config file in the ~/.kde dir. Can't remember which one, it was the one which held the settings for desktop effects though.
[03:45] <mrmcq2u> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R600 (RV610 94C1) 20090101 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL DRI2
[03:45] <mrmcq2u> thats from the glxinfo output
[03:45] <LeeJunFan> does it say dri: yes on one of the lines?
[03:46] <mrmcq2u> well isnt dri2 dri
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[03:46] <mrmcq2u> john@john-desktop:~$ glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[03:46] <mrmcq2u> direct rendering: Yes
[03:47] <mrmcq2u> should i nuke a config file for kwin then?
[03:47] <LeeJunFan> Maybe it's the same issue I had. I think it's actually kdeglobals
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> yeah, kdeglobals is where the effects are enabled
[03:48] <comawhite> is there a way to get trunk on kubuntu?
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> Or maybe you could just edit it by hand and enable it.
[03:49] <mrmcq2u> where is kdeglobals? :) im a recent gnome convert :)
[03:49] <comawhite> mrmcq2u, what you mean kdeglobals?
[03:49] <LeeJunFan> ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[03:50] <LeeJunFan> mrmcq2u: there's a line "EffectsEnabled=false"
[03:51] <valorie> comawhite: there is project neon, which is daily builds
[03:52] <mrmcq2u> that option doesnt seem to be there
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> mrmcq2u: you may have to log out of KDE, make the changes, then log in. Otherwise it's just going to run with what it has in memory, and might overwrite your changes when you log out.
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> mrmcq2u: ah, perhaps that's the issue. I'd cp it for a backup, then nuke it. But you should probably log out of kde and do it from console, then log in.
[03:59] <syb> http://stanford.edu/~pgbovine/cde.html - Binary wrapper to run any binary app through different linux machines (same arch though) .. without installing any dependence!
[03:59] <syb> just spreading news
[04:00] <mrmcq2u> right, gonna reboot and see if this works.
[04:00] <mrmcq2u> Thanks for the help LeeJunFan
[04:00] <LeeJunFan> good luck.
[04:13] <MaSa69> hey guys.....perhaps this  little you of borders in this chat, but i jusst have to find answer....
[04:14] <valorie> what?
[04:14] <valorie> !ask
[04:15] <MaSa69> ...so i'm usin windows server 2008 and trying to "force" a default backgroun with gp
[04:15] <bazhang> MaSa69, how does that relate to kubuntu
[04:15] <MaSa69> as i said in beginning it does not :)
[04:16] <bazhang> MaSa69, then take it to ##windows please
[04:16] <MaSa69> k
[04:16] <MaSa69> ty
[04:20] <valorie> perhaps people don't know the /list command
[04:21] <valorie> you can find your items of interest by typing /list interest
[04:21] <bazhang> valorie, that's not a good one; /msg alis list *term*  is, however
[04:21] <valorie> whatever that interest might be
[04:21] <bazhang>   /list will cause many irc clients to overload and quit
[04:21] <valorie> by itself, sure
[04:21] <bazhang> so best to follow the alis usage instead
[04:22] <valorie> you want to filter by putting in something
[04:26] <Deamonsoul> how much damage can be caused my xbox games landing on a keyboard, about 10 or them from a foor and a half - 2 feet?
[04:26] <Deamonsoul> its a laptop
[04:26] <Deamonsoul> lol i forgot the important part
[04:26] <bazhang> Deamonsoul, using kubuntu?
[04:28] <dasKreech> bazhang: lol
[04:28] <bazhang> Deamonsoul, try #defocus
[04:28] <dasKreech> Deamonsoul: I think that the Xbox stands more chance of damage
[04:28] <dasKreech> hi bigbrovar
[04:30] <bigbrovar> dasKreech: Hi
[04:35] <dasKreech> how are you?
[04:55] <nikhil_> when i open amarok via krunner, it crashes plasma (which restarts) and then continues running fine. anybody seen this behaviour before?
[04:56] <dasKreech> Can I use apt/dpkg to test if a file has changed since it was installed?
[04:57] <dasKreech> nikhil_: Well Amarok uses Libplasma perhaps there is a discrepancy?
[04:58] <rapidsp> dasKreech: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
[04:58] <nikhil_> dasKreech: what kind of discrepancy
[04:58] <dasKreech> rapidsp: Hmm?
[04:58] <nikhil_> rapidsp: i think he means one specific file
[04:58] <nikhil_> ?
[04:58] <dasKreech> nikhil_: I dunno that's the only thing I can think of that would make amarok crash plasma shell
[04:58] <rapidsp> oops
[05:02] <dasKreech> nikhil_: Which version of each?
[05:05] <rapidsp> why quassel dont save panels setting after restart?
[05:08] <valorie> rapidsp: did you shut down quassel, or just restart without doing so?
[05:09] <rapidsp> valorie: after restart PC for example
[05:09] <valorie> most apps save state on shutdown
[05:09] <valorie> so if you don't shut them down, they won't save state
[05:10] <rapidsp> i think too
[05:10] <rapidsp> its not right...
[05:10] <rapidsp> ok.... trying now....
[05:10] <valorie> that's the way apps work
[05:11] <valorie> as I recall, even in Windows
[05:11] <valorie> although that was many years ago.....
[05:11] <valorie> lol
[05:11] <nikhil_> dasKreech: amarok 2.3.2, plasma...how do i check plasma version?
[05:12] <rapidsp> valorie: yea... after quassel down only it saved :)
[05:13] <dasKreech> nikhil_: plasma-desktop --version ?
[05:15] <nikhil_> dasKreech: 03
[05:19] <dasKreech> Mine as well
[05:20] <valorie> same here
[06:30] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[06:30] <cxo> Is there a kubuntu live disc with amarok-1x installed on it? (Doesnt have to be the latest ubuntu)
[06:30] <eagles0513875> how can i get an hp lasterjet p1102w working on lucid?
[06:31] <bazhang> eagles0513875, check linuxprinting.org first step
[06:32] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:34] <eagles0513875> bazhang: doesnt look like its in the db :(
[06:34] <bazhang> eagles0513875, let me check
[06:34] <eagles0513875> bazhang: i know i can download the hplip package from the hp site but it always seems to fail to install
[06:36] <valorie> wasn't there a project awhile ago to do KDE3.x updates?
[06:36] <valorie> that would presumably have the old Amarok
[06:37] <valorie> project emerald, or diamond, or something like that
[06:37] <bazhang> http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479670 eagles0513875 post #2
[06:37] <bazhang> valorie, kde3.5 team? yes
[06:39] <valorie> that was for cxo
[06:39] <valorie> dunno if they have a liveCD though
[06:40] <cxo> valorie, apparently kubuntu 8.10 was the last release with amarok-1.4.10 I'm downloading the live cd right now
[06:41] <dasKreech> valorie: project trinity
[06:42]  * eagles0513875 pokes dasKreech with a skreech :p
[06:42] <valorie> trinity!
[06:42] <valorie> that's it
[06:42] <eagles0513875> odd now it seems to be installing the hplip stuff last i tried it would error on install
[06:42]  * dasKreech pokes eagles0513875 with a  dormouse
[06:43] <eagles0513875> no poking with peripherals plz
[06:43]  * dasKreech pokes eagles0513875 with a  door
[06:44] <valorie> good luck with that, cxo
[06:44]  * valorie <3 the newest Amarok from git
[06:45] <eagles0513875> valorie: i love version 2 as well
[06:46] <cxo> I'm not actually going to use it. I just want to double check how it did a few things from a user's point of view
[06:46] <valorie> cool!
[06:46] <cxo> my gtk clone is almost ready for the wild world, wanted to align some of the behavior
[06:47] <eagles0513875> cxo: viva vms right lol
[06:47] <valorie> this is like a..... Gnome branch?
[06:48] <eagles0513875> bazhang: :) thanks seems like even hp for this printer didnt have right link or somethign to hplip[
[06:48] <eagles0513875> bazhang: is it possible for ubuntu to keep pushign newer versions of hplip as they become available after release?
[06:52] <cxo> valorie, http://amatory.sourceforge.net/public/images/screenshots/Screenshot-3.png
[06:52] <valorie> trippy!
[06:57] <michael_g> i want to deinstall postgres server completely. does anyone know what addional must be done, after remove with the packet manager?
[06:59] <michael_g> kubuntu 10.10 postgres 8.4
[07:18] <masci> hi und zwar hätte ich eine Frage zu Kubuntu 10.10, benutze es erst ein paar Tage und bin eig. sehr zufrieden damit, aber ich suche eine Funktion bzw Möglichkeit die Desktop-Icons nach einem Gitter oder  ähnlichem anzuordnen
[07:18] <masci> unter einer älteren kubuntu version hab ich die Möglichkeit noch gefunden, aber hier leider nicht, oder ich bin einfach zu blind:)
[07:19] <masci> google habe ich schon bemüht, aber hat mir auch nicht viel gebracht
[07:20] <valorie> masci: try #Kubuntu-de
[07:21] <masci> ok thx, thougt i would've been in the right channel :) shame on me..
[07:24] <valorie> masci, this is for english-speakers
[07:24] <valorie> you might find a few German-speakers here by chance
[07:25] <masci> vector: ok thanks, or might i try to post my question in english here?
[07:25] <valorie> just trying to steer you to the best place for help
[07:25] <valorie> sure, that's fine
[07:25] <masci> ok i'll try, don't laugh about my bad englisch :)
[07:25] <valorie> gotta be better than my Deutsche!
[07:26] <masci> i've been using kubuntu 10.10 for a few day's now, and i'm quite happy about it. but one problem that i have is that my desktop/workspace is very untidy
[07:26] <masci> i am looking for a possibility to sort the icons by a grid oder something like that
[07:27] <valorie> if you right-click on the desktop, you can do that
[07:27] <masci> ok, i tried so, but where exactly?
[07:27] <valorie> desktop settings
[07:28] <masci> ok but there i can only change my background, mouse gestures etc.
[07:28] <valorie> hmmm, not seeing the snap to grid thing
[07:28] <masci> nothing else
[07:28] <valorie> let me look
[07:29] <valorie> another possibility is creating activities, so that you only have the stuff you want for a particular activity
[07:29] <valorie> checking the weather and headlines, for instance
[07:29] <valorie> working
[07:29] <masci> i just want the same space between the icons, but if that works, that would be fine too
[07:29] <valorie> playing music
[07:29] <valorie> ok, sec
[07:29] <FloodBotK2> valorie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <FloodBotK1> valorie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <masci> jo thanks :)
[07:31] <valorie> I must tell you though, that icons on the desktop are going away
[07:31] <valorie> unless you opt for folder-view
[07:31] <masci> ok and how can i do that?
[07:31] <valorie> I don't have icons on the desktop any more
[07:31] <kyubutsu> folderview is a widget!  :D
[07:32] <masci> okay and how do you manage your shortcuts?
[07:32] <valorie> Desktop settings > Activities > folder View
[07:33] <valorie> I think once you have that view, then you can snap to a grid
[07:33] <valorie> haven't tried that since I upgraded though
[07:33] <masci> ah okay thanks that also looks great and good for me
[07:33] <valorie> what sort of shortcuts?
[07:33] <valorie> I use the kmenu for most things
[07:33] <masci> no sorry i think shortcuts was the wrong expression
[07:34] <eagles0513875> !skype
[07:34] <masci> i think this solutions here is also great for me
[07:34] <valorie> like for files and stuff, I just use Dolphin
[07:34] <valorie> cool!
[07:34] <valorie> glad I could help
[07:34] <masci> yeah thanks ;)
[07:34] <valorie> you are very welcome
[07:34] <masci> great support around here!
[07:34] <valorie> and your English is great
[07:34] <valorie> :-)
[07:35] <masci> lol okay thanks:)
[07:37] <StrongOrder> Hello guys! Does anyone know how can I configure VLC so that it uses QT by default. Currently it uses gtk widgets and colors..
[07:40] <moetunes> start it with   vlc -I qt
[07:42] <StrongOrder> moetunes: is that L in there as a parameter? it does not work here
[07:42] <moetunes> StrongOrder:  nope it is a capital eye
[07:43] <StrongOrder> moetunes: ahm, still the same, gtk...
[07:44] <StrongOrder> does it work for you? I still see brown (ubuntu) colors
[07:45] <moetunes> StrongOrder:  yep it works here
[07:47] <moetunes> StrongOrder:  you could try this from the vlc --help   --qt-display-mode {0 (Classic look), 1 (Complete look with information area), 2 (Minimal look with no menus)}  Selection of the starting mode and look
[07:48] <moetunes> so   vlc --qt-display-mode 0
[07:49] <StrongOrder> nope, does not work. Maybe it's because my vlc is built with gtk ?
[07:49] <StrongOrder> because, in intefaces menu I cannot see qt os similar
[07:50] <moetunes> try using the -vv switch with -I qt to see why it won't work
[07:51] <moetunes> afaik qt is the default for vlc
[07:53] <StrongOrder> moetunes: nope, here is the oputput :( http://dpaste.org/jVwJ/
[07:53] <moetunes> k
[07:55] <StrongOrder> it opens files using kde dialog, but displays it in gtk :) ugly
[07:57] <moetunes> you haven't set something in the config or the lua scripts to use gtk?
[07:58] <StrongOrder> no, not manually, but I'm using ubuntu with kde installed, so that must me something related to that
[07:59] <moetunes> check with the folk in #videolan - I'm sure it should be an easy fix
[07:59] <StrongOrder> thank you very much, i took your time
[08:00] <moetunes> np:)
[08:12] <sresu> Need help with KWin(Desktop effects). Few minutes after using it, the screen hangs probably with certain processes running. On Ctrl+Alt+F1, GPU is found to be hanged or some error with GPU. How to fix it?
[08:14] <moetunes> sounds like it might be temperature related...
[08:15] <sresu> moetunes: As in?
[08:16] <sresu> moetunes: Can any command or log help you identify it properly?
[08:17] <moetunes> sresu:  it is a guess that the gpu is getting hot and protecting itself - there might be something for your card to monitor the temp, it depends on the card
[08:17] <sresu> moetunes: What all things are required for KWin to function properly?
[08:18] <sresu> moetunes: If I'm right, desktop effects by default are handled by Kwin and not Compiz
[08:19] <moetunes> sresu:  yep kwin does the effects and all you should need is a default kubuntu install
[08:19] <sresu> moetunes: I mean the minimum hardware requirements
[08:19] <sresu> ..
[08:19] <moetunes> which leads me to beleive it might be hardware
[08:20] <sresu> moetunes:  Yeah. There used to be a command to know the graphic drivers etc. I forgot it
[08:20] <sresu> grep !
[08:20] <moetunes> sresu:  if the card can use the dri module it should be fine - the cpu might work harder if the card is lower end tho
[08:20] <moetunes> sresu:  lspci | grep -i vga
[08:20] <sresu> moetunes: I don't know how to check it
[08:21] <valorie> sresu: what sort of vid. card?
[08:21] <sresu> moetunes:  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[08:21] <sresu> Intel Chipset
[08:21] <valorie> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/nvidia%20video%20card%20temp%20monitor?content=23844
[08:21] <sresu> Nothing like Nvidia or radeon
[08:22] <sresu> Oh. valorie. Hi! :)
[08:22] <moetunes> I doubt there is a temp measurer for intel
[08:22] <sresu> moetunes: Yeah.. It isn't
[08:22] <valorie> http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/
[08:22] <valorie> there is!
[08:22] <sresu> Huh?
[08:22] <sresu> Lemme see
[08:23] <moetunes> there is an issue with some intel chips and kwin iirc - the 945G chip reports it does stuff that it doesn't really do for example
[08:23] <sresu> So I should be downloading that program?
[08:23] <valorie> support is win-only though
[08:23] <valorie> :(
[08:23] <eagles0513875> hey guys is anyond else having issues with themes and theming
[08:23] <valorie> which probably means it has .dlls and crap
[08:23] <moetunes> it might be the 945GM chip
[08:23] <eagles0513875> valorie:  and moetunes i know there are some bugs with the intel gpus again
[08:23] <sresu> valorie: moetunes: Umm.. I'm not able to understand the causes of problems properly
[08:24] <moetunes> sresu:  it works ok without the desktop effects?
[08:24] <sresu> moetunes: Yes, perfectly fine
[08:25] <eagles0513875> moetunes: what exactly is happening
[08:25] <valorie> http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=2329
[08:25] <valorie> might help
[08:25] <moetunes> eagles0513875:  sresu has his gpu shutdown after a few minutes running the desktop effects
[08:26] <eagles0513875> im wondering if its related to the intel gpu bugs that have resurfaced
[08:26] <moetunes> I was thinking that - or a temp prob
[08:26] <eagles0513875> i might have stumbled on something rather interesting but not desktop effects related
[08:26] <eagles0513875> moetunes: was thinking temp prob too
[08:26] <valorie> I have the hardware temp sensor widget
[08:26] <eagles0513875> valorie: how accurate are they
[08:27] <valorie> the vid. card seems hotter than everything else
[08:27] <sresu> valorie: What's the name?
[08:27] <valorie> it's just a dial for each of them
[08:27] <sresu> KDE w/o KWin looses the look and feel effect :(
[08:27] <valorie> Hardware Temperature
[08:28] <valorie> and it's a widget I put onto the desktop
[08:28] <eagles0513875> if its a laptop he should get a can of compressed air and blow it out
[08:28] <sresu> eagles0513875: Desktop PC
[08:28] <valorie> sresu is female, as am I
[08:28] <valorie> we're not all guys here.....
[08:28] <sresu> :)
[08:29] <valorie> I don't think it's dust
[08:29] <sresu> valorie: Hardware Temperature shows only MB and CPU temperarture here
[08:29] <valorie> I just have a wimpy card, I think
[08:29] <valorie> every once in awhile, it gets rather s l o w
[08:29] <valorie> probably because it's hot
[08:30] <eagles0513875> just figured out how to fine tune my performance issues i was having with graphical effects and desktop effects off
[08:30] <valorie> sresu: that aptosid link above talks about adding more sensors
[08:30] <eagles0513875> valorie: i wonder though if the gpu isnt powerful enough to handle it
[08:30] <valorie> I have 3
[08:30] <sresu> Disabling really does affect performance
[08:30] <valorie> didn't change anything....
[08:30] <eagles0513875> what if under application appearence then style then fine tuning you change the graphical effects
[08:31] <sresu> eagles0513875: Yes, its the default chipset. Nothing much can be expected from it unless one have Nvidia or radeon
[08:31] <valorie> it would be nice if there was a tut. somewhere telling you what each choice does for you
[08:31] <valorie> mine is supposedly radeon
[08:31] <valorie> but......
[08:31] <eagles0513875> im having some really interesting desktop rendering issues at times it it becomes really sluggish redrawing the icons i have on the bottom
[08:31] <eagles0513875> my desktop is nvidia
[08:31] <sresu> valorie: Yeah I'm going through the link
[08:31] <penny> hi
[08:32] <sresu> valorie: You got AMD architecture, I suppose
[08:32] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Linux 2.6.35-22-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.5.3 (KDE 4.5.3), CPU: AMDTurionX2Dual-CoreMobileRM-74 at 550 MHz (4389 bogomips), HD: 86/371GB, RAM: 3483/3708MB, 189 proc's, 11.17h up
[08:33] <valorie> yep
[08:33] <eagles0513875> nice nice
[08:33] <sresu> Cool!
[08:33] <eagles0513875> i wont start processor wars in here
[08:33] <sresu> Help me resolve it... please
[08:33] <eagles0513875> sresu: does it still happen if you disable the desktop effects
[08:33] <Machtin> sooo.. does /dev/random give out TRUE random numbers?
[08:33] <valorie> I wouldn't fight to defend this laptop architecture
[08:33] <valorie> lol
[08:33] <sresu> eagles0513875: No
[08:34] <eagles0513875> Machtin: ?
[08:34] <eagles0513875> valorie: lol im pro intel whats funny is amd uses intel registers in their cpus
[08:34] <eagles0513875> so techincally your getting a lower performing cpu with intel tech in it
[08:34] <Machtin> eagles0513875: anything there that i could explain better? :)
[08:34] <eagles0513875> Machtin: whats are you exactly trying to do
[08:35] <Machtin> creating a truly random integer.
[08:35] <eagles0513875> Machtin: and this is using kubuntu to do it
[08:35] <Machtin> yup.. however, it's not really kubuntu-specific
[08:36] <Machtin> but I'm doing it on a kubuntu-machine, so yeah.
[08:36] <eagles0513875> have you asked in the programming channel?
[08:36] <Machtin> Nope, it's actually off-topic in a programming channel, i'd say.
[08:37] <Machtin> at least for platform-independent languages
[08:37] <eagles0513875> what programming language are you trying to do this in
[08:38] <eagles0513875> wowy the dark wonton theme has really improved
[08:38] <Machtin> c++, but i don't really need true random numbers.. i'll use urandom
[08:38] <Machtin> i'm just curious whether /dev/random is truly random.
[08:38] <eagles0513875> Machtin: ask in c++ this channel is more for kubuntu specific issues
[08:39] <eagles0513875> Machtin: i honestly dont know
[08:39] <Machtin> i see. :) i'll try the linux-channel then. thanks anyway.
[08:40] <sresu> moetunes: valorie: eagles0513875:  http://pastebin.com/5uCQpvQ7
[08:44] <moetunes> sresu:  I think you need a specific sensor app for the graphics
[08:44] <moetunes> I could be wrong tho
[08:44] <sresu> moetunes: Like?
[08:45] <sresu> valorie?
[08:45] <moetunes> sresu:  it's not something I have ever bothered with - that link you gave did not mention anything about the graphics
[08:45] <valorie> interesting
[08:46] <valorie> but yeah, I didn't see anything there that says graphics to me
[08:46] <valorie> not that I know anything special about it
[08:46] <sresu> valorie: After Mamarok suggested about vlc backend to Amarok, these things started becomming worse and that is what probably made Amarok to crash upon exit randomly
[08:47] <valorie> right, but supposedly markey has fixed that
[08:47] <sresu> moetunes: valorie: Whats should be the command for that?
[08:47] <valorie> I'm unable to build vlc from source though
[08:47] <valorie> git keeps hanging up on me
[08:47] <valorie> most annoying
[08:47] <sresu> Yeah.. likewise
[08:48] <moetunes> sresu:  command for what sorry ?
[08:48] <sresu> graphics details
[08:48] <valorie> I wonder if they allow anonymous access to videolan git
[08:48] <moetunes> sresu:  I don't think there is a standard command for the gpu temp
[08:49] <sresu> Okay, then I think I should not use Desktop effects
[08:50] <eagles0513875> sresu: i would recommend against it if you know its causing you problems
[08:50] <sresu> till my new netbook with a better graphic card comes
[08:50] <eagles0513875> i know for me
[08:50] <eagles0513875> on login plasma workspace would crash for me with them on
[08:50] <eagles0513875> this is on a desktop im talking about
[08:50] <sresu> Oh..
[08:50] <eagles0513875> tbh desktop effects are still buggy
[08:51] <eagles0513875> im tempted to turn them back on but i have had such a stable and trouble free system so far, with rekonq crashing once in a blue moon but on the hole rather rock solid system for a change
[08:51] <eagles0513875> 4 days of stability and counting
[08:51] <sresu> Anyways, I'll find it and since its most likely hardware related
[08:51] <sresu> 4 days alone
[08:51] <sresu> !
[08:52] <sresu> Kubuntu is not that radioactive!! :P
[08:52] <eagles0513875> ha dude you do not know what i went through to get maverick installed on my system
[08:52] <sresu> kk
[08:52] <eagles0513875> live cd gives me hell about reading files etc which probably means my cd drive is on the way out
[08:53] <eagles0513875> but then again i was installing to a single 2tb partition
[08:53] <sresu> valorie: What was markey's suggestion for vlc backend over Xine?
[08:53] <eagles0513875> after using a 500gb partition with lvm
[08:53] <eagles0513875> everythign was fine cept for kde but thankis to the help of a fellow user i got kde working
[08:53] <valorie> building from source, where he fixed the problem
[08:54] <valorie> I'm no longer on #phonon, so I don't know exactly what he fixed
[08:54] <sresu> valorie: But will removing it and preferring Xine would probably stop crashing Amarok on exit. Hmm?
[08:55] <hp_> ciao
[08:55] <hp_> !list
[08:55] <eagles0513875> !it | hp_
[08:55] <valorie> you don't have to remove it, just prefer Xine
[08:55] <moetunes> !it | hp_
[08:55] <eagles0513875> moetunes: i win :p
[08:55] <moetunes> heh
[08:56] <sresu> valorie: Yeah. Okay.. For a while I'll forget the problems with .aac then
[08:58] <sresu> Thanks
[09:02] <eagles0513875> !kvm
[09:15] <eagles0513875> hey guys have any of you run kvm
[09:16] <moetunes> I still use vbox here
[09:17] <moetunes> eagles0513875:  is there an issue?
[09:17] <moetunes> found this - www.linux-kvm.org/page/HOWTO
[09:19] <eagles0513875> moetunes: no no im following the wiki tutorial
[09:19] <eagles0513875> so far so good
[09:19] <eagles0513875> just curious if there is a gui based front end for it
[09:20] <moetunes> eagles0513875:  aqemu seems to be one
[09:20] <eagles0513875> moetunes: reason im asking is this is my first time setting it up
[09:21] <eagles0513875> want to run some tests before i possibly setup a cloud for my business
[09:22] <moetunes> eagles0513875:  in www.google.com/linux I searched for   howto kvm   and there was stuff about setting up a cloud
[09:23] <eagles0513875> moetunes: thanks i need to get my hands on a machine before i consider doing it
[09:23] <eagles0513875> have only one machine atm
[09:24] <moetunes> eagles0513875:  http://kernelnews.com/articles/2010/linuxdesktopvirtualization2.html
[09:25] <eagles0513875> thanks moetunes :)
[09:26] <moetunes> np :)
[09:26] <eagles0513875> this looks promising
[09:26] <eagles0513875> does kvm allow one to install a guest from an iso img
[09:27] <moetunes> no idea :)
[09:34] <cxo> eagles0513875, sure, kvm is just a framework. its up to the client like qemu to allow those things
[09:35] <eagles0513875> ahh ok
[09:47] <DiogenesW> i'll be back ...
[09:48] <moetunes> no arnie impersinations pls...
[10:03] <Insomniac_> How to change system fonts?
[10:06] <moetunes> should be in system settings somewhere
[10:07] <kyubutsu> systemsettings, down to systemadministration>font installer
[10:47] <lolo_> list
[10:49] <moetunes> lolo_:  it's not that sort of channel - what are you looking for?
[10:50] <jjman6_> i upgraded my nvidia drivers but now things aren't working.   The error log says that the Nvidia kernel version does not match the driver version.  how can i also update the kernel version.
[10:51] <moetunes> reboot might work
[10:51] <jjman6_> also, nvidia-settings is completely useless in the matter as it won't let me configure anything because its botched.
[10:51] <jjman6_> i've rebooted a dozen times  lol
[10:51] <jjman6_> i've tweaked the xorg.conf  to no effect
[10:51] <moetunes> k :)
[10:52] <jjman6_> it won't even let me run my old xorg.conf b4 i upgraded.   so i had to resort to generic just to get into X
[10:52] <moetunes> maybe the install didn't update the kernel - tried reinstalling the driver
[10:52] <feng_> try a new dirver
[10:52] <moetunes> ?
[10:53] <jjman6_> i've installed it twice
[10:53] <jjman6_> ;-)
[10:53] <feng_> you can find your driver in novia.com
[10:53] <jjman6_> feng_:  its the newest version.  290.19.21
[10:53] <moetunes> time for a diff driver then - newest isn't always best
[10:53] <feng_> No the newest version is the best
[10:53] <jjman6_> thats the whole point.  I grabbed the newest version and its broken things because the kernel is now out of sync
[10:54] <feng_> what's your video card?
[10:54] <jjman6_> 250GTS
[10:54] <feng_> note book?
[10:54] <jjman6_> negatory
[10:57] <jjman6_> shouldn't the nvidia installer update the kernel version also.  thats what i don't understand
[10:57] <jjman6_> i wasn't even aware there were 2 version to be running
[10:57] <feng_> 32bit?
[10:57] <jjman6_> 64b
[10:57] <jjman6_> runnin Kubuntu 10.10
[10:58] <feng_> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux-display-amd64-260.19.21-driver-uk.html
[10:58] <feng_> is this ?
[10:58] <jjman6_> thats what i DL'd yes
[10:59] <feng_> have you installed the linux-source?
[11:00] <jjman6_> errr no i don't think so
[11:00] <jjman6_> not sure what u refer too
[11:00] <feng_> and the linux-headers-*
[11:01] <jjman6_> I've updated latest updates.  which included headers
[11:01] <jjman6_> 2.6.35-22-generic
[11:04] <moetunes> if you have installed the nvidias drivers before ok then it must be something with this driver afaik
[11:06] <feng_> this issue happened, at most time,because of the kernel upgrade
[11:06] <jjman6_> mhmm
[11:07] <jjman6_> so how do i force it to upgrade the kernel
[11:07] <Eruaran> If you install nvidia drivers from nvidia's website, if there is a kernel upgrade you will lose your nvidia drivers and have to isntall them again
[11:07] <Eruaran> If you install nvidia drivers from the repositories this wont happen
[11:08] <moetunes> I thought they fixed that...
[11:08] <valorie> how can they?
[11:08] <valorie> sticking with the repositories is the safe way to go
[11:09] <bazhang> you still might need to go into low res mode even if installed from hardware drivers. for nvidia and maverick better to use the open source driver
[11:09] <jjman6_> so i should uninstall nvidia's and install the ones in repo?
[11:09] <bazhang> jjman6_, yes
[11:10] <Eruaran> jjman6_: yes install the nvidia drivers from the repositories
[11:10] <jjman6_> lol & how might i uninstall.    can i just install over the top from repo
[11:11] <valorie> if you look in your original download from nvidia, there might be an uninstaller
[11:11] <valorie> it's irresponsible to distribute without one
[11:12] <jjman6_> its just a single file  .run
[11:12] <jjman6_> so i'm looking at the repo.  and nvidia-current & nvidia-common are both already installed
[11:12] <Eruaran> just purge any nvidia stuff thats already installed
[11:12] <Eruaran> then install from the repo
[11:17] <jjman6_> whatya know it has an uninstaller  just add --uninstall  worked  ;-)
[11:17] <Eruaran> cool
[11:19] <jjman6_> so what exactly do i n eed from the rpo.  cause it looks like everything is alredy installed
[11:19] <jjman6_> repo
[11:19] <kiosfoss> assalamualaikum
[11:19] <jjman6_> should i just reinstall the nvidia-current & -common
[11:20] <kiosfoss> howto install font
[11:21] <jjman6_> teh repo version is rather out of date  260.19.06
[11:27] <jjman6_> rebootin
[11:31] <dbc254> STILL trying to get my wireless PCI card on my desktop to work. It's installed, driver installed, no wireless tab.  What's wrong?
[11:59] <dbc254> anybody alive in here?
[11:59] <bazhang> yep
[11:59] <moetunes> dbc254:  yep - but I don't do wireless
[12:00] <moetunes> s/do/use/
[12:01] <moetunes> dbc254:  it's a quiet channel atm - no need for a pm
[12:01] <dbc254> trying a command-mode irc client. Are these preferred to the gui ones?
[12:02] <bazhang> dbc254, just personal like or dislike
[12:02] <bazhang> weechat irssi vs. xchat/quassel/etc etc
[12:02] <dbc254> this seems quicker
[12:03] <bazhang> dbc254, irssi or weechat
[12:03] <dbc254> irssi was suggested, so I'm trying it. was running Qassel?
[12:03] <bazhang> dbc254, try with screen then
[12:03] <bazhang> !screen
[12:03] <bazhang> whoops wrong one
[12:03] <dbc254> just type !screen
[12:04] <dbc254> !screen
[12:04] <bazhang> dbc254, no use screen with irssi
[12:04] <dbc254> um, how?
[12:05] <bazhang> dbc254, let me find a guide, hang on a second
[12:06] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi#Irssi%20with%20screen  dbc254
[12:10] <dbc254> installing screen
[12:12] <simone> ciao
[12:12] <simone> !list
[12:12] <dbc254> help
[12:12] <moetunes> !it | simone
[12:28] <tim_> server: irc.gimp.org
[12:28] <tim_> irc.gimp.org
[12:29] <moetunes> try   /server etc
[12:30] <tim_> I must be missing something in the command.
[12:31] <annihilator> why cant i d/l a windows program in kubuntu
[12:32] <moetunes> tim_:  try   /server    with no colon
[12:34] <nicola> ubuntu-it
[12:34] <moetunes> nicola:  try   /join #ubu8ntu-it
[12:34] <moetunes> nicola:  try   /join #ubuntu-it
[12:42] <tim_> can anyone tell me how to change servers and channels? I'm trying to get to irc.gnome.org and #gnucash
[12:43] <moetunes> tim_:  it should be   /server irc.gnome.org
[12:43] <moetunes> if that server exists
[12:43] <tim_> nothing seems to change when I use the /server command
[12:44] <moetunes> is there a gnome.org server? - it doesn't show in my network list
[12:45] <tim_> how about a gimp.org server?  where do i find a list of servers?
[12:45] <moetunes> I connected to that server before with   /server irc.gimp.org
[12:46] <tim_> when I hit enter the line just dissappears
[12:46] <pali> hello
[12:47] <moetunes> tim_:  open a new server tab maybe - I'm connected there now
[12:47] <pali> does anybody know similar soft to whereisit for linux - KDE enviroment?
[12:47] <tim_> ok. how do i open a new server tab? sorry i'm very new
[12:48] <moetunes> tim_:  there should be an option in your irc clients menu somewhere
[12:48] <moetunes> in xchat it is under the xchat menu item
[12:49] <tim_> i'm using quassel
[12:49] <moetunes> I don't know quassel - check in the menu if it has one
[12:50] <moetunes> 30 ppl in #gnucash
[12:50] <tim_> maybe I'll go install xchat
[12:50] <moetunes> tim_:  is there a freenode tab in quassel - errors will be there
[12:54] <loo0oola> hi
[12:54] <loo0oola> i'm new to use kubuntu
[12:54] <loo0oola> irealy love it
[12:54] <loo0oola> i have been ud=sed ubuntu form 2009
[12:55] <loo0oola> this first time i used kubuntu
[13:01] <apparle> hey guys, some one please send me a private message after a 10 seconds, I am trying to test a setting of quassel
[13:04] <apparle> hi guys wassp
[13:17] <mfraz74> Any idea what oxygen-demo is for?
[13:18] <bazhang> !find oxygen-demo
[13:18] <bazhang> !info kdebase-workspace-bin
[13:19] <mfraz74> Is it supposed to demo oxygen or for some other reason?
[13:23] <apparle> when I run it, it shows various gui element demos
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:28] <mfraz74> apparle: I like the scroll wheel
[13:29] <apparle> mfraz74: it is more like a volume wheel
[13:29] <mfraz74> true
[13:30] <mfraz74> haven't seen it used in any apps
[13:30] <apparle> I don't see much use as such
[13:30]  * eagles0513875 has just come to the conclusion that kvm rocks
[13:30] <eagles0513875> does anyone know if kvm allows a user to setup guests on a remote system using aqemu
[13:31] <apparle> mfraz74:  I personally don't like to use a wheel over a slider... with a mouse
[13:31] <eagles0513875> hey guys quick question im testing out kvm on kubuntu, but i have a server which is running ubuntu-server. does anyone know if aqemu will support setting up of guests on a remote machine?
[14:03] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[14:03] <phoenix_firebrd> anyone using bluedevil
[15:31] <astronaut> hello
[15:49] <janet_> sound stopped working a while ago on this machine... can anyone help in diagnosing and fixing this?
[15:50] <outlooper> FireFox 3.6.12 on Kubuntu: When I right-click to open a downloaded file using the FF downloaded file window, I can't open the file or the download directory.
[15:52] <outlooper> FireFox 3.6.12 on Kubuntu 10.10 : When I right-click to open a downloaded file using the FF downloaded file window, I can't open the file or the download directory.
[15:54] <KukuNut> open dolphin instead
[15:56] <janet_> is there any way to reset the sound driver/settings back to default, or autodetect like on the first installation?
[15:56] <outlooper> I know I can open dolphin instead but navigation is easier of ff will directlu open the folder
[15:58] <BluesKaj> outlooper, place dolphin in the panel
[15:58] <BluesKaj> janet_, have you upgraded lately
[15:59] <janet_> BluesKaj: it's on lucid, all up to date
[16:00] <BluesKaj> yes janet_ your update could have reset your alsamixer ctrls and the main could be muted or turned off
 thank you, but thats not much help.  I use downthemall too, and want to open folders directly.
[16:00] <janet_> BluesKaj: in kmix, Master is unmuted and with high volume, and nothing else jumps out as incorrect - what should I try?
[16:01] <KukuNut> janet_: in systemsettings->multimedia  there is a 'default' button
[16:01] <BluesKaj> janet_, try system settings/multimedia /phonon test
[16:02] <janet_> KukuNut: ok, I click it and nothing happens
[16:03] <janet_> BluesKaj: I don't see a phonon test, just a Test button. clicking it shows it pressed for several seconds, but nothing is heard
[16:03] <KukuNut> janet_: you might need to reboot
[16:03] <KukuNut> janet_: you need to select phonon and then 'test'
[16:04] <janet_> KukuNut: it doesn't even let me press the Apply button, as in nothing changed (after pressing Defaults)
[16:04] <janet_> where do I select phonon?
[16:04] <KukuNut> janet_: select phonon and then select device and then test
[16:05] <janet_> KukuNut: I don't see phonon anywhere, where is it supposed to show up?
[16:05] <KukuNut> in multimedia
[16:06] <BluesKaj> janet_, which kubuntu version are you running ?
[16:06] <janet_> I'm at the multimedia page, I see 'Device Preference' with a few categories, and Intel something and Jack Audio Connection Kit on the second pane. On the second 'Backend' tab there's xine, and nothing selectable
[16:06] <KukuNut> janet_: if you don't see phonon on the left most pane then that could be your problem
[16:07] <janet_> KukuNut: is it supposed to show as one of the categories under Audio Output, or a top-level section on it's own?
[16:08] <janet_> (btw I don't recall seeing that on any other system either, where everything works. also apt-get install phonon shows it's already installed.)
[16:08] <BluesKaj> janet_,I'll ask again,  which kubuntu version are you running ?
[16:08] <janet_> I'll answer again: Lucid, all up to date :-)
[16:10] <BluesKaj> janet_, and alsamixer shows which audio card ?
[16:11] <janet_> BluesKaj: Intel ICH5
[16:13] <janet_> hold on, I'll reboot in case something did change
[16:16] <micha__> Hi, I am trying to configure a vpnc connection using the network manager plasmoid. However, after having it configured, nothing happens when I click on the connection. Any idea?
[16:19] <janet_> still no sound
[16:21] <janet_> BluesKaj: any other ideas?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> !intelhda || janet_
[16:22] <janet_> BluesKaj: thanks, I'll check it out
[16:27] <janet_> BluesKaj: The instructions seem outdated, but I managed to find the chip is AD1985 - however it doesn't appear in the HD-Audio-Models.txt list...
[16:28] <janet_> does that mean support was dropped for it in lucid or something like that?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> janet_,  there's a bug in launchpad about the Intel ICH5 , however the reported problem still  seems unresolved on 10.04
[16:30] <janet_> BluesKaj: :-(
[16:31] <janet_> BluesKaj: it worked on earlier releases
[16:31] <janet_> in ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz I found the line: ad_sharing  For AD1985, turn on OMS bit and use headphone (in section about quirks mode) - any idea what OMS is?
[16:32] <janet_> BluesKaj: hey I just got it to work!!
[16:32] <janet_> BluesKaj: very strangely, I set the headphones in kmix to mute, and this made the speakers work again!
[16:33] <BluesKaj> janet_, cool !
[16:33] <janet_> BluesKaj: thanks for your help :-)
[16:33] <BluesKaj> heh, what help :)
[16:33] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:33] <janet_> without finding that bit on using headphones in the file in the link you posted, I wouldn't have tried muting them
[16:34] <BluesKaj> ok , good
[16:34] <janet_> BluesKaj: I just hope I'll remember this someday when I notice the earphones are muted and won't know why... ;-)
[16:35] <BluesKaj> janet_, I was about to suggest upgrading to 10.10 unless you're tied to LTS releases
[16:36] <janet_> BluesKaj: I've had very bad experience upgrading lucid->maverick on my home pc, so I'm not too happy about upgrading my mom's machine (this one)...
[16:36] <janet_> it's much easier maintenance leaving it on LTS
[16:40] <ughfres_> Hello
[16:40] <BluesKaj> janet_, I've noticed that lucid and maverick have more HW kernel source problems than previous releases
[16:41] <janet_> BluesKaj: yes, on my other system the left mouse button stopped working. Talk about a showstopper...
[16:41] <BluesKaj> bummer
[16:49] <janet_> BluesKaj: anyways, I'm outta here - thanks again
[16:50] <BluesKaj> janet_, NP , bye
[16:58] <roxy_> on my hp mini laptop my touchpad it wont right click.... how can i go about fixing that? it didnt work since i installed kubuntu...
[17:22] <dasKreech> roxy_: it has physical buttons and they don't work?
[17:22] <dasKreech> check out xev
[17:24] <mordesku> hello
[17:25] <mordesku> is in kubuntu 10.10 support for intel gma500 graphic chip?
[17:29] <roxy_> dasKreech:  ummm... not sure what you are talking about im kind of new to this all....... >.<
[17:31] <BluesKaj> hey kkathman, dasKreech
[18:13] <jasonluke1234567> hello any one here
[18:13] <jasonluke1234567> i am looking for software
[18:14] <tsimpson> look in the package manager
[18:14] <jasonluke1234567> software for making gift cards, banners, certificates,
[18:21] <dasKreech> hi BluesKaj
[18:21] <dasKreech> roxy_: hi :) Ok does your touchpad have physical buttons?
[18:27] <daniels_> Hi, i've just downloaded kubuntu 10.10 Desktop CD, 32bit (md5 checked) and i'm trying to install in on a eMachines E525 laptop. Whan i boot from CD i just get a black screen with following message "ISOLINUX 4.01 debian-20100714 ETCD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al" any ideeas what can i do?
[18:28] <dasKreech> hmm
[18:28] <daniels_> the CD works fine on my other laptop
[18:29] <roxy_> dasKreech: its like black all in one no button type thing like i see on other laptop.....
[18:31] <dasKreech> roxy_: k have you tried synaptics?
[18:31] <dasKreech> roxy_: alt+F2 -> touchpad -> press enter
[18:32] <dasKreech> daniels_: Is there anything significant about the laptop?
[18:33] <roxy_> dasKreech: dnt think i have.... and did that...
[18:34] <dasKreech> roxy_: and you did the buttons section and didn't work?
[18:34] <daniels_> dasKreech: just average laptop, Intel Celeron 2.2GHz, 3GB DDR2, Mobile Intel GL40 Express Chipset. I had windows vista preinstalled on it.
[18:36] <roxy_> dasKreech:  is the button section is it under tapping?  if not there is nothing there to change i
[18:36] <roxy_> it*
[18:39] <daniels_> dasKreech: just tryed a old CD with ubuntu 8.04 and this boots, :( so is ths related just to KDE? don't both use the same boot loader? or maybe 10.10 uses a newer version of the bootloader that has issues... ?
[18:40] <claydoh> daniels_: it still could be the burned image not getting along with your optical drive. I suggest trying a burn at a slower speed or different media
[18:41] <claydoh> daniels_: even if the md5sum is good, the disk might have a spot that the drive may just be able to read well enough to procede
[18:41] <daniels_> i've tryied two methods: frist using a USB Stick, same thing. Then i burned the CD thinking that there is an issue with USB method
[18:43] <daniels_> i've made the USB stick using the usb-creator.exe from inside the downloaded iso
[18:43] <daniels_> this is really weird :(
[18:44] <claydoh> daniels_: sometimes the usb drives are not all good for booting, I have 4 different ones, and only one seems capable of booting a livecd iso
[18:44] <claydoh> it is wierd, definitely
[18:44] <dasKreech> daniels_: likely the kernel
[18:44] <BluesKaj> daniels_, maybe the cd you burned is faulty on this laptop but not on the other , due to a slightly more sensitive reader on the other cdrom
[18:45] <claydoh> daniels_: ^^ which is why trying a new burn at slower speed may help
[18:45] <BluesKaj> I had that situation a few times
[18:45] <daniels_> guess this would be the only reasonable explanation
[18:46] <daniels_> i've burned at 16x, i'll try again at 4x
[18:46] <dasKreech> daniels_: or the CD just hates certain CDs
[18:46] <dasKreech> I've had to drop my burn to 2x on a certain combo of a mobo cd drive and CD brand
[18:46] <BluesKaj> yeah , I had probs with fuji media
[18:47] <dasKreech> If I change anyone of the equation then I can speed up the burn and it works
[18:59] <eagles0513875> does the kubuntu live cd come with memtest?
[18:59] <theannihilator> last i checked yet
[18:59] <theannihilator> yes
[18:59] <eagles0513875> ok
[19:04] <sebastien_> salut
[19:04] <dasKreech> hi sebastien_
[19:07] <roxy_> djustice:  *poke*
[20:12] <Roxy_> djustice_f: *poke*
[20:33] <bodom> Hi there.
[20:33] <bodom> Network manager displays my interfaces as "unmanaged". May someone help me make them work?
[20:39] <roentgen_> bodom: did you put anything in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[20:39] <roentgen_> server or desktop
[20:39] <roentgen_> ?
[20:41] <bodom> roentgen_: desktop
[20:42] <bodom> roentgen_: on /etc/network/interfaces I have "auto lo \ iface lo inet loopback"
[20:44] <roentgen_> what type of network connection do you have?
[20:45] <bodom> i have one wired and one wireless connection. The wireless is the one that i'm more interested to make it work
[20:46] <roentgen_> check also the file in /var/lib/NetworkManager
[20:46] <bodom> roentgen_: it's a directory
[20:46] <roentgen_> there should be a file in it
[20:47] <bodom> Networkmanager.state [main] \ NetworkingEnabled=false \ WirelessEnabled=true \ WWANEnabled=true
[20:48] <roentgen_> that false thing doen't look right
[20:49] <roentgen_> there's a checkbox for the that in the GUI
[20:49] <bodom> mhhh
[20:50] <bodom> roentgen_: checked
[20:51] <bodom> but the file doesn't changed
[20:52] <roentgen_> hmm... try to stop kdm, modify the file to say true there and get back with kdm
[20:52] <roentgen_> stopping kdm will kill all your X apps
[20:52] <bodom> yep, I know
[20:54] <bodom> roentgen_: wow
[20:54] <bodom> it worked
[20:54] <bodom> I love brute force
[20:55] <bodom> I'm gonna check if it will still work after a reboot
[20:55] <roentgen_> great... what kde version
[20:55] <bodom> mhhh
[20:55] <bodom> some 4.x
[20:55] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[20:55] <roentgen_> open kate and check in help
[20:55] <bodom> 4.5.1
[20:56] <roentgen_> aha...
[20:56] <roentgen_> this must be it
[20:56] <phoenix_firebrd> any one using nokia mobiles?
[20:56] <bodom> ?
[20:56] <roentgen_> I've seen this bug many times with older kdes but not recently
[20:56] <roentgen_> currently I'm on 4.5.3
[20:57] <bodom> this should be the lastest "official" kde in kubuntu
[20:57] <TFrog> last night i had my system lockup during the kdm splash phase of bootup.  couldn't even load Xwindows from the CLI.  i backed up the log files and reloaded.  upon examining the logs, i didn't see anything wrong during the boot process.  anyone have a similar issue?  btw.  it's kubuntu 10.4.1 with KDE 4.5.1 loaded on it.
[20:57] <roentgen_> yeah...
[20:57] <roentgen_> there's a ppa for kubuntu :)
[20:57] <phoenix_firebrd> kde 4.5.3 in backports
[20:58] <TFrog> phoenix_firebrd, that ppa for kde 4.5.3 is only for those running 10.10 and not for 10.04.1
[20:58] <bodom> oh :) I usually stay away from backports: I work with that PC and I need it to be stable
[20:58] <phoenix_firebrd> TFrog: ya
[20:58] <bodom> btw, your fix survived reboot
[20:58] <roentgen_> bodom: in Linux current version is more stable :)
[20:59] <bodom> that's a very nice thing. I was trying to fix that problem for a long time
[20:59] <bodom> ty very much
[20:59] <roentgen_> you're welcome
[20:59] <phoenix_firebrd> TFrog: any conflicting dependencies
[21:00] <TFrog> non that i've seen.  nothing reported as broken.  it was strange that the logs didn't show any errors
[21:00] <phoenix_firebrd> TFrog: did you check with aptitude?
[21:01] <TFrog> i checked all over.  even checks some of the things that might have broke.  the system just didn't load kwin at all.  froze at the display icon after login
[21:02] <bodom> TFrog: maybe you can try creating a new user and logging in with that user
[21:02] <phoenix_firebrd> TFrog: if you have created backup of your data, why dont you reinstall plasma-desktop
[21:02] <TFrog> only thing i can think was i ran a scan of the entire system with klamav before shutting down the last time before booting it later
[21:03] <TFrog> i just finished reloading it about 5 hours ago.  had a current backup thankfully
[21:06] <phoenix_firebrd> TFrog: you are not able to login even in cli mode?
[21:06] <TFrog> last night when i had the issue i was able to login with the cli.  then attempted to use the command "startx"  locked up in the same exact place
[21:07] <phoenix_firebrd> TFrog: so now you are a ble to login in cli mode
[21:08] <TFrog> no.  i reloaded 10.04.1 this morning and everything else.  haven't had an issue yet.  was curious if anyone else had this issue before that way i might have a fix should it happen again
[21:10] <phoenix_firebrd> TFrog: do you have the copy of the log files of the troubled installation, if yes, you could file a bug
[21:10] <TFrog> btw.  while at the cli last night i unloaded clamav along with it's gui to see if that was causing the issue.  that didn't effect anything even after a reboot
[21:10] <TFrog> i forgot about that.  shame to.  i've already wiped them :(
[21:12] <phoenix_firebrd> TFrog: its ok
[21:13] <TFrog> lesson learned i guess.  but i'll be keeping an eye on this install.  can't really run 10.10 worth a crap on this dinosaur laptop.  got the intel i8.xx chipset in it
[21:17] <dutch> where can I find the "terminal" in kubuntu 10.04 ?
[21:18] <bdizzle> dutch, its listed under "konsole"
[21:19] <dutch> bdizzle, thanks...I'll look...need it to run telnet
[21:20] <bdizzle> telnet is a windows program... but okay
[21:21] <dutch> yeah,  but,  I run telnet for a amateur radio program...and I still can't find it
[21:21] <bdizzle> hmm
[21:21] <bdizzle> 10.04, right?
[21:21] <dutch> yes
[21:21] <dutch> just installed it
[21:22] <bdizzle> okay, from the k-menu bar, go to Applications -> System -> Terminal
[21:22] <bdizzle> then just type in "telnet" and it will open
[21:23] <dutch> bdizzle, ok...got it now....wasn't there 15 minutes ago,  but had added a few more programs since then
[21:24] <dutch> you can also "ALT-F2" and get it that way
[21:25] <bdizzle> that too...
[21:26] <bdizzle> I keep forgetting about that function
[21:26] <dutch> but,  it doesn't work for me....
[21:27] <dutch> I can get a terminal up,  but when I try "dx.k1ttt.net"  it just says "invalid command"
[21:27] <bdizzle> yeah, I don't know how to use telnet to be honest, I've never used it
[21:28] <dutch> I used it just about every day on 9.04...an amateur radio cluster..it's a reporting system
[21:31] <bdizzle> okay, quick question. I've got a laptop with buttons along the side of the keyboard that do various things under windows. How do I map them to call up applications in kubuntu?
[21:40] <kilogolfsix> exit
[21:56] <vlad> hello everyone
[21:56] <vlad> can someone please help me with a little problem?
[21:57] <rysiek|pl> vlad: just state the problem; if somebody knows how to help, they will
[21:58] <vlad> i want to use wireshark in kubuntu, i managed to get it work but when is opening the nasty old interface shows out
[21:58] <vlad> can i make it open using the kde styles an colors?
[22:01] <jtduncan> it looks like i'm in a bit of a bind now after upgrading kde 4.5.3.........
[22:01] <jtduncan> after login, all i see is a black screen with the cursor.......
[22:01] <jtduncan> if i suspend compositing, i can see the background of the kde splash screen......
[22:01] <jtduncan> but that's it
[22:01] <phoenix_firebrd> vlad: you there?
[22:02] <jtduncan> any ideas?
[22:02] <vlad> yes
[22:02] <vlad> here
[22:02] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: welcome
[22:02] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: yesterday i had to same problem
[22:02] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: resolved it
[22:03] <vlad> some ideas for me?
[22:03] <jtduncan> ooh! how?!
[22:03] <phoenix_firebrd> vlad: is the wireshark a gtk app
[22:04] <vlad> wireshark is a network monitor aplication
[22:04] <vlad> a program like amarok
[22:04] <vlad> with graphical user interface
[22:04] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: there is a conflicting package . a weather widget, that made the upgrader not to install the plasma -desktop for me
[22:05] <jtduncan> phoenix_firebrd: how did you resolve this?
[22:06] <vlad> some ideas?
[22:06] <phoenix_firebrd> vlad: install gtk2-engines-aurora and tell me
[22:07] <vlad> the program runs well when i`m not runing it like sudo but when i`m entering the sudo command the old interface is used
[22:07] <vlad> i need to run it as sudo s-o it can detect my network interaces
[22:08] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: i installed the aptitude that is not in kubuntu 10.10, installed plasma-desktop, in that process aptitude removed the conflecting package
[22:08] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: do you know how to use aptitude right? if not tell me
[22:09] <jtduncan> yeah, that's fine......
[22:09] <jtduncan> it the whole part about how to connect to the internet without the nm widget........
[22:09] <jtduncan> that has me stumped.......
[22:09] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: have you resolved the problem?
[22:10] <jtduncan> no
[22:10] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: live session?
[22:10] <jtduncan> i can't do `aptitude install` because i don't have internet access
[22:10] <jtduncan> live session?
[22:10] <jtduncan> how do you mean?
[22:11] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: are you using the livecd just for accessing the net now?
[22:11] <jtduncan> no
[22:11] <jtduncan> i'm booted into my install
[22:11] <jtduncan> i did alt+shift+f2 to get a command prompt
[22:11] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: wait
[22:11]  * jtduncan is waiting ^_^
[22:12] <dutch> bdizzle,  thanks for the help...got the telnet thing figured..
[22:12] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: are you not able to use internet in commandline mode?
[22:12] <jtduncan> ping google.com -> "unknown host"
[22:13] <jtduncan> ping <my subnet host> -> "Network is unreachable"
[22:13] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: ok
[22:14] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: sorry i have no idea how to fix your network problem
[22:15] <jtduncan> phoenix_firebrd: is there a way i could download the package and provide it to apt-get without having to got the internet route?
[22:16] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: i think you can. download the latest build of kubuntu and edit the pdate sources to look into the cd for updates
[22:17] <moetunes> I would try a new user first see if it has the same issue
[22:18] <jtduncan> hmmmm
[22:36] <yomguy> Hi all ! Ive got a bug on Kubuntu 10.10 on a touch netbook with a reversible screen : when I want to rotate the desktop with KrandRtray, the touch controller is not rotated and make it unusable. The USB mouse is well rotated. Not a big bug but I don't really know where to file the bug (Kubuntu, KDE, Xorg, Linux ?). Any help welcome ;)
[22:37] <jtduncan> phoenix_firebrd: thanks for your help!! ^_^
[22:37] <jtduncan> i managed to get the computer connect to the network (from the cl, no less ^_^), and then installed plasma-desktop
[22:37] <jtduncan> yay!
[22:37] <moetunes> yomguy:  a way to find out what is the issue is to use xrandr in terminal to do the rotate - if that works then it is the kde app at fault - if not it is X
[22:38] <phoenix_firebrd> jtduncan: how did you connect to net in cl
[22:40] <yomguy> moetunes: thanks, I'll try this
[22:41] <phoenix_firebrd> i have a problem sending files from computer to my mobile using bluetooth
[22:41] <phoenix_firebrd> can anyone help me
[22:42] <newboon2age_> i probably can't help, but if you describe the problem in detail maybe someone will jump in with some help phoenix_firebrd
[22:42] <phoenix_firebrd> ya sure
[22:43] <yomguy> moetunes: but how a touchscreen "mouse" can't be treated as any mouse by X ? Do you think there could be a link with the kernel driver that does not expose the touch screen as any mouse ?
[22:43] <apparle> why can't I install services in dolphin from the get new services?
[22:44] <phoenix_firebrd> i am using nokia 5800( s60 phone) and nokia 2690 (s40 phone), kubuntu 10.10, kde 4.5.3. i am not able to send files from my computer to my mobile phone using bluedevil
[22:45] <moetunes> yomguy:  I don't know anything about touchscreens sorry - I would think the rotation shouldn't matter
[22:45] <phoenix_firebrd> paring is possible from mobile , but not from computer, able to send file from mobile, but not the other way
[22:48] <phoenix_firebrd> i experiencing  this problem from kubuntu 9.04(that is my first linux install), bluetooth was working fine in windows using the bluesoliel packaged soft for my bluethooth hardware
[22:48] <moetunes> yomguy:  this seems like it worked - https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=107167
[22:49] <phoenix_firebrd> in 9.04 i was using bluesolil's linux app, but sadly the company droped support for linux
[22:50] <phoenix_firebrd> i informed to the bluedevl's developer, he said it should be working fine and asked me to file a bug report
[22:50] <yomguy> moetunes: oh yeah THANKS for the tip
[22:51] <yomguy> moetunes: I was indeed looking for xinput rules ;)
[22:51] <moetunes> seems to need some xset input
[22:51] <moetunes> oops xinput :)
[22:51] <phoenix_firebrd> i had a doubt that if it was a problem with the distribution and so tried with suse kde. same problem was present there too
[22:53] <phoenix_firebrd> if any other person has the same problem , then i will file a bug report or if you feel that you have a solution kindly help
[22:53] <yomguy> moetunes: ok, i'll try this, and maybe file a bug to X then ;)
[22:57] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: what is your problem
[22:57] <apparle> yomguy: and how does bluetooth relate to X
[22:58] <apparle> yomguy: forget it... I confused :)
[22:58] <phoenix_firebrd> not able to send files from my computer to my mobile
[22:58] <yomguy> apparle: no pb ;)
[22:58] <phoenix_firebrd> using bluetooth
[22:58] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: what is happening?
[22:59] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: when you  say you are not able to... did you try restarting?
[23:00] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: bluedevil ->send file-->select mobile device. the copying notification popup and shows the copy speed as 0 kb/sec and remains.
[23:01] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: Back when I used it in 10.04, it used to sometimes stop working until a restart... but I don't have the dongle to check in 10.10
[23:01] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: tried restarting, no use
[23:01] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: what phone model?
[23:01] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: that doesn't matter... when it stopped. it stopped with all phones
[23:02] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: do you receive anything?
[23:02] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: ya, i can
[23:02] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i can even pair from the phone
[23:02] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  seen this - http://lovinglinux.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8406201 ?
[23:03] <moetunes> has the opposite prob to you...
[23:03] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: try delete the pairing on phone, and on computer (if bluedevil has any...)
[23:03] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: tried those thing,not working. i am getting an error with sdp browse command , can you help me with that
[23:04] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: did that
[23:04] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: do you get the confirmation message on phone.
[23:04] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: that is the problem, no messages of any kind in mobile
[23:05] <moetunes> I don't know what "sdp browse command" is...
[23:05] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: ok
[23:05] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: at least the bluetooth icon on 5800 change to bluetooth doing communication?
[23:05] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: ya
[23:06] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: :D at least your computer is sending something to the phone :P
[23:07] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i think its trying to communicate with the mobile
[23:07] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i think all nokia phones have this problem
[23:07] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: does it work on other phones?
[23:09] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i tried with nokia 5800, nokia 2690 and nokia 6600, not working in any one. but i didnt try with other model. can you tell me what model are you using
[23:09] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: I used my 5230 long time back
[23:10] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd:  you can't conclude it is phones problem unless you try another phone or computer with it
[23:11] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: was is working fine?
[23:11] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: try it with another laptop etc
[23:12] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: what is the difference
[23:12] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: I checked it 6 months back on lucid... now I don't have a bluetooth dongle
[23:12] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i am having this problem right from karmic
[23:12] <apparle> ohhh
[23:13] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: do you think that my dongle would be a problem?
[23:13] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: did you try it in windows or other os... does it work there
[23:14] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: it works fine
[23:14] <apparle> there you go.. dongles fine... mobiles fine.... kubuntu has got the problem :P
[23:15] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: now you have to locate it and fix it :) was the problem same in all kubuntu versions?
[23:15] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: ya
[23:16] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: look if you can can find a bluedevil log, or a way to run it from konsole to see the error messages if any
[23:19] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle:  ya i saw that yesterday. when i ran the bluedevil-wizard that adds mobile to the list. it said the mobile authentication failed. do you want the exact error message
[23:20] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: I can't help you much, I am not a developer, just giving you an opinion
[23:20] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: you got that message after deleting the pairing right?
[23:21] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: nope
[23:21] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: this is the error message i am getting "Error response:  "Authentication Canceled""
[23:22] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: that seems as if your phone rejected etc, you have deleted the pairing right?
[23:23] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: ya just now checked that, there is no paired device
[23:23] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: is there anyway to run the wizard in verbose mode so as to get more info?
[23:25] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i too had that idea but i checked the source code of bluedevil, that is a default message for unknown reason of failure in pairing
[23:25] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: so we cannot get anymore messages
[23:26] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: are you good at compiling stuff? or did you understand the code :P
[23:27] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i am not that good, i can understand the code little bit since it is written in qt
[23:27] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: just find the part which handles the error message... and try to find the value you get
[23:28] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i got this error message when i was using kbluetooth "Sorry, your bluetooth device does not support input services"
[23:29] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: no idea... but maybe gui thought that because it was supposedly cancelled or not responded to
[23:29] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: ya you are right
[23:29] <BluesKaj> what bug crerates this permission error:  "no write access to /home/user/.ICEauthority "  ?
[23:30] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: when do you get this error message
[23:30] <apparle> BluesKaj: did you launch the concerned app as su earlier?
[23:32] <moetunes> just chown that file
[23:33] <apparle> hey what is the diff between chmod and chown?
[23:34] <moetunes> chmod changes who can do what to the file and chown changes who owns it
[23:36] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: did you try with a non kde distro?
[23:36] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: tried with ubuntu, not working
[23:36] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: maybe it is a bug, file it
[23:36] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i think its the bluetooth driver that is causing the problem
[23:37] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: bluedevil
[23:37] <apparle> okay guys, got to go.. bye
[23:37] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: whe i run the command the device name is not displayed
[23:37] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: thank you
[23:38] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: which command?
[23:38] <phoenix_firebrd> lsusb
[23:38] <apparle> that is weird... it is a usb dongle right? check if the dongle has some linux issues
[23:40] <apparle> see you later guys
[23:40] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: bye
[23:43] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  remove the dongle, run dmesg in a terminal, plug the dongle in and run dmesg again
[23:43] <moetunes> it should show any errors
[23:43] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: ok
[23:45] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: i am getting this "[85010.673034] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[23:45] <phoenix_firebrd> "
[23:46] <moetunes> so the kernel sees it - sure it isn't in lsusb?
[23:47] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: it shows as "Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0c10:0000  "
[23:47] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: no name
[23:48] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  time to see if there is support for the device - what is it? brand name etc
[23:49] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: bluesoleil
[23:51] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  found this - http://www.linux4u.info/wiki/doku.php/bluesoleil
[23:51] <moetunes> looks like an app - what is the device tho
[23:52] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: it does not have a name written on, i think its a chinese duplicate. it uses bluesolil software in windows
[23:54] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  here's the linux version of bluesolil - http://shareme.com/details/bluesoleil.html
[23:55] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  oops - sorry that is the windows version
[23:56] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: the linux version that is available in the bluesoliel website requires an outdated kernel
[23:57] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  you might have to boot into windows to see if it knows the device name/brand etc
[23:58] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: sorry removed all the windows installations
[23:58] <moetunes> heh