[00:13] <Goodgame> bioterror, I've posted on the topic if you're interrested
[00:15] <bioterror> are you asking do you put all the placing settings in the same file
[00:15] <bioterror> yes
[00:16] <bioterror> you put them into lubuntu-rc.xml
[00:16] <Goodgame> bioterror, a friend of mine said their is as easier way
[00:18] <Goodgame> to open the apps at the loggin he tells me to use gnome-session-properties and for the position (and the size) to use devilspie https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie bioterror
[00:19] <Goodgame> what do you think of this?
[00:20] <bioterror> pffffffffffffffffffft
[00:20] <Goodgame> ??
[00:22] <Goodgame> bioterror, ?
[00:29] <bioterror> put them all maximized :D
[00:29] <Goodgame> don't you think his way is easier?
[00:30] <bioterror> http://code.google.com/p/gdevilspie/ go ahead
[00:30] <bioterror> if that suits your needs
[00:31] <Goodgame> I don't understand
[00:32] <bioterror> st.
[00:32] <Goodgame> ??
[00:38] <bioterror> Goodgame, well, I cannot help you with that
[00:38] <bioterror> you have to try it out yourself and think if that's what you need and want
[00:38] <Goodgame> to me it does the same thing, maybe a bit easier his way no?
[00:39] <bioterror> *shrug*
[00:47] <Goodgame> ok
[00:47] <Goodgame> thanks anyway for your help bioterror
[00:53] <Goodgame> gnight
[02:23] <ubuntuman> Hey all, hoping someone can help me out. Just installed lubuntu 10.10. wondering if there is a way to save the session on shutdown (ie, open windows, apps etc) , kinda like xfce does.
[02:26] <phillw> ubuntuman: not that I know of, you may be better off asking on the mailing list.
[04:16] <wanda> How do I browse for samba network shares on lubuntu 10.10?
[04:19] <wanda> Seemed like pybrowser was in lucid, is that my best bet?
[04:25] <phillw> wanda: there was a package missed in the iso... oops :)
[04:26] <phillw> give me one minute
[04:28] <phillw> wanda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat/#Network%20File%20Browsing%20with%20PCManFM
[04:29] <wanda> Thanks, I'll look it over.
[04:31] <phillw> there is a 10.10.1 iso due out shortly, I think that they've decided to include gvfs-backends by default as it is causing support calls.
[04:31] <phillw> the os-prober  issue will also be fixed.
[04:34] <wanda> Thanks, phillw, I don't know about the os-prober issue.  I didn't realize that regular releases had point releases.
[04:35] <phillw> wanda: yeah, Julien will be making a point release as those two issues are causing support calls on here and on the forum.
[04:36] <phillw> we're not a 'regular' release, 10.10 was released as a bets, so we are allowed to 'tweak' it :P
[04:36] <phillw> */s/bets/beta
[05:13] <wanda> Thanks, folks.
[07:24] <audio> Hi all,
[07:24] <audio> I want to monitor and record the changes made when installing an application.
[07:25] <audio> Can anyone suggest how to do it?
[07:25] <audio> Install some sort of monitoring app?
[07:28] <bioterror> why?
[07:28] <bioterror> I've used linux since 1998 and I've never found need for anything like that
[07:32] <audio> I want to try and learn how part of an app works but I can't read the code, so wanted to see what it changes.
[07:33] <bioterror> :D
[07:34] <bioterror> all you get is: dpkg -L application
[07:34] <bioterror> :D:D
[07:35] <bioterror> sudo strace apt-get autoremove
[07:35] <bioterror> :D
[07:35] <audio> That looks to list the files but does it show what changes are made to existing files?
[07:35] <bioterror> hahahaha
[07:36] <bioterror> oh for real
[07:36] <bioterror> check the source code
[07:36] <bioterror> how in the eart you think you can see changes from a binary file
[07:36] <bioterror> earth
[07:36] <bioterror> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_file read
[07:37] <audio> If I can identify the changed files I can then compare them to unchanged versions of the same file.
[07:38] <audio> The changes are likely to be config files rather than binary
[07:39] <audio> So I am looking to identify "what changed"
[07:40] <bioterror> :D
[07:40] <audio> So I was hoping to find some sort of snapshot of before and after installation.
[07:41] <audio> Or a record of what happened during installation.
[07:41] <bioterror> :D
[07:43] <audio> Does apt-get install write a detailed log of what happens during installing a new app?
[07:45] <bioterror> if you really want to know
[07:45] <bioterror> sudo strace apt-get install whatever
[07:46] <audio> OK, I'll look into strace.
[07:47] <lithpr> hello.  I installed lubuntu 10.10, and since installing the ati drivers, when i login my resolution is always reset to 640x480.  any idea what i can do to make my resolution preference persistant?
[07:47] <bioterror> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:47] <lithpr> how linuxy.  thanks :)
[07:48] <bioterror> I installed last night fglrx drivers
[07:48] <bioterror> and no problems
[07:49] <lithpr> hmm, yeah, i'm having pretty bad luck with the 10.10 'buntus on this machine
[07:51] <lithpr> there is no setting for resolution defined in my xorg.conf
[07:51] <lithpr> i'll google around to see where/how i should define it
[07:51] <lithpr> thank you
[11:56] <dean_> Hi I am currently using Ubuntu gnome desktop which runs fine but I have installed the LXDE desktop but no wireless connection could someone help me?
[12:01] <dean_> anyone here?
[18:10] <qwm> argh. burnt 10.10 to a cd, to install on an old inspiron 8200. but it fails... and it leaves me clueless.
[19:07] <zk_> 'ello all
[19:07] <zk_> quick question
[19:07] <zk_> how do i install a new theme? :D
[19:11] <zk_> and how do i keep my 1024x768 resolution? after a reboot it goes back to 1600x1200
[19:50] <slooksterpsv> question how can I change the bottom lxde bar to have a different look cause it's a gradient white to black to white
[19:50] <slooksterpsv> nvm found it
[19:50] <slooksterpsv> it was just in the panel settings
[20:23] <bioterror> :D
[21:03] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[21:03] <kosaidpo> is there any app like pitivi i can use in windows ??
[21:03] <MichealH> Windows Movie Maker? xD
[21:03] <MichealH> I joke.
[21:04] <MichealH> There will be one around. You could do It with Flash.
[21:04] <kosaidpo> MichealH: iwanna sumthin easy to use flash needs another 3 months to take in hands first
[21:05] <kosaidpo> then  start the artistic part again
[21:05] <kosaidpo> :S
[21:08] <kosaidpo> hello there
[22:42] <gogeta> hey
[22:42] <slooksterpsv> hi
[22:43] <gogeta> lubuntu is awsome butn i dont like chrome
[22:43] <gogeta> and seem to be unable to remove it without removing the lubuntu-desktop package
[22:44] <gogeta> unfortanly chrome is a fail for gma netbooks
[22:44] <gogeta> video rendering is slow
[22:47] <slooksterpsv> ok
[22:47] <slooksterpsv> you can remove it and if it does remove lubuntu-desktop that's fine, its just a meta-package
[22:47] <slooksterpsv> so it won't remove lubuntu or that, otherwise you can leave it installed and ignore it
[22:48] <gogeta> well i knoe they whont change there defuly broswer but it shouldent be linked to there meta package so i can change it without issue
[22:48] <gogeta> 4gb netbook every byte counts
[22:48] <phillw> gogeta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Remove%20lubuntu-desktop
[22:49] <gogeta> i dont whant to remove it
[22:49] <gogeta> im saying if i try to remove chrome it trys to
[22:50] <phillw> gogeta: it is completely safe to remove, please read the link I posted up.
[22:50] <gogeta> they need it not linked to that meta package
[22:50] <gogeta> so remmoving the meta will not effect updates?
[22:51] <slooksterpsv> nope
[22:51] <phillw> gogeta: it has to be for us to be able to use the --no-recomends command, which saves a pile of other stuff being installed.
[22:52] <phillw> gogeta: you only need to pop it back on when lubuntu changes from, say 10.10 to 11.04, then it can be removed again.
[22:52] <gogeta> got ya
[22:53] <gogeta> yea chrom is snappy on rendering but video rendering its alot slower then ff
[22:53] <phillw> gogeta: it's why I documented it up, it's an FAQ (Frequently Asked Question).
[22:54] <gogeta> but chrome is built for dule cores when it comes to that
[22:54] <phillw> gogeta: have you installed the lubuntu-restricted package?
[22:55] <gogeta> it has the same efect on all my older machines
[22:55] <gogeta> just how chrome is
[22:55] <slooksterpsv> well technically it's chromium, which is built for speed as far as I know
[22:55] <gogeta> spped in html rendering
[22:55] <gogeta> speed
[22:55] <gogeta> not so mutch video
[22:55] <slooksterpsv> right video eh..
[22:56] <slooksterpsv> I play divx, flash, etc. videos just fine, but then again I'm on a brand new machine, I'll have to see if I can obtain some older hardware to test out
[22:56] <gogeta> any gma atom netbook
[22:57] <gogeta> you will see the diffrence
[22:57] <gogeta> not so mutch divx
[22:57] <gogeta> being i use the mplayer plugin
[22:57] <gogeta> so not anything to do with what broswer then
[22:58] <phillw> gogeta: the only vid channel I browse is you-tube, with the html5 trial, so I'm not to sure what the others are like.
[22:58] <gogeta> its to bad the vlc plugin fails at everything lol
[22:59] <phillw> gogeta: vlc works out of the box for me?
[23:00] <gogeta> i mean forweb divx streams
[23:00] <gogeta> it will just sitb at wating for video
[23:00] <gogeta> sit
[23:00] <slooksterpsv> gogeta: if its the gma 500 poulbsa however that's spelled yeah that's the worst chipset I've seen
[23:00] <gogeta> gma 450
[23:00] <gogeta> most netbooks use it
[23:01] <gogeta> thers some tweaks you can make to make it preform
[23:01] <gogeta> like overlcoking to 300mhz
[23:01] <gogeta> 400mhz
[23:01] <gogeta> doesent hurt them any
[23:01] <slooksterpsv> that's not too bad, the 500 is horrible I actually hate myself for purchasing the netbook I got with it
[23:01] <gogeta> use gma booster
[23:01] <gogeta> and firfox or modori
[23:02] <gogeta> handels web vids on them alot nicer
[23:02] <gogeta> gma 500 serise can do 400mhz safly
[23:02] <slooksterpsv> tried, no difference lol - I did the tweeks in Ubuntu for it, the 3d effects were nice and only Ubuntu Netbook Edition would allow me to watch Hulu at full screen with medium-low skipping
[23:02] <gogeta> there just underclocked desktop gpus
[23:02] <slooksterpsv> yeah, if you want to continue this discussion further, join #lubuntu-offtopic for OT discussions
[23:03] <gogeta> booster + ff hulu medum no skips
[23:03] <gogeta> lol ok
[23:03] <slooksterpsv> really? wow the 4500 is a lot nicer