j_baer | Doctormo ? | 00:30 |
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vish | hrm! artwork ML has its own fredrik! | 08:52 |
thorwil | lol | 08:57 |
thorwil | vish: that's not fair | 08:57 |
vish | :p | 08:57 |
thorwil | vish: argh, John mailed to libreoffice-marketing, "representing" the artwork team, basically offering our services as a unit | 09:04 |
vish | exactly why i remarked..! ;) | 09:05 |
thorwil | but of course! vish is already there | 09:06 |
vish | thorwil: nah, not subscribed there, but it was brought to my attention.. | 09:07 |
thorwil | vish: i will answer that mail to say that it will make more sense for libreoffice to manage design tasks themselves | 09:08 |
vish | thorwil: any news on the brainstorm site? | 09:15 |
thorwil | vish: you saw the post on the planet, about the brainstorm site receiving some scheduled attention? | 09:17 |
vish | thorwil: oh? i must have missed it.. :( | 09:17 |
thorwil | vish: http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2010/11/03/weathering-the-ubuntu-brainstorm/ | 09:18 |
thorwil | vish: it seemed like there would be nothing stopping the logo update anymore, but it still didn't happen, so far | 09:20 |
vish | thorwil: yea i saw this one, but that does not mention anything about the site being updated, but rather about the ideas getting attention.. | 09:20 |
vish | thorwil: right, i dint want to mention about chaotic/marcus in the reply.. maybe one of them should reply to the list.. | 09:21 |
thorwil | vish: when i talked with Iain at uds, he said he thought UB might be about to be phased out, but that blog post cleared that up | 09:22 |
vish | cool.. maybe we should use UB more for ayatana.. and then it would get phased out ;) | 09:23 |
thorwil | heh | 09:23 |
vish | thorwil: what are the different statuses for the task wiki page? | 09:35 |
thorwil | vish: hmm? ask John, i guess? | 09:35 |
vish | hmm.. | 09:36 |
* thorwil puts vish in BCC | 09:44 | |
vish | not even sure what john was/is thinking … how can we offer services when we arent even active :s | 09:52 |
vish | and can manage/complete our own tasks.. | 09:52 |
vish | cant* | 09:52 |
thorwil | yeah | 09:54 |
thorwil | lovely. the wiki css will need some love. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks?action=diff&rev1=15&rev2=16 | 09:56 |
thorwil | Deletions are marked like this. Additions are marked like this. | 09:56 |
thorwil | not to forget: text is marked like this | 09:57 |
vish | lol!!! | 09:58 |
vish | argh and there seems no way to indent lines twice, or atleast it has changed with the new wiki | 10:16 |
vish | hrm! and no italics?!!? | 10:20 |
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tourach | hey everyone | 15:21 |
tourach | I'm working on some concept art, just enquiring on where to upload to for people to have a look. Please excuse if im typing in the wrong place, never used IRC before. | 15:23 |
coz_ | tourach, this is for ubuntu this concept art? | 15:30 |
tourach | hi coz_, yes it is. | 15:31 |
tourach | its not finished, but just thought I'd get an opinion on style, before finishing it | 15:32 |
coz_ | tourach, ah so you want someone here to look at it? | 15:32 |
tourach | if that's ok. | 15:32 |
tourach | I've never tried to submit anything before | 15:33 |
tourach | so didn't want to look like a fool, posting in the wrong place | 15:33 |
coz_ | tourach, well if you just want someone here to look at it you can upload the image to picpaste.com and then link it here | 15:33 |
coz_ | tourach, if you want to submit artwork ,mm let me check for the link | 15:34 |
tourach | thank you, that's great. | 15:34 |
tourach | coz_, the link is http://picpaste.com/raw_levels-6hS4RVjG.png | 15:36 |
coz_ | tourach, check this link ... there is a link to the mailing list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork?action=show&redirect=ArtworkTeam | 15:37 |
coz_ | tourach, interesting work :)... also remember that natty narwhol is a narwhol :) | 15:37 |
tourach | coz_, thanks coz. So no penguin? | 15:38 |
coz_ | tourach, well ... that is entirely up to you...but if you want your work to be considered for the next version... a penquin is generally just the general linux image | 15:39 |
coz_ | tourach, although an image like that might also be considered for Edubuntu | 15:40 |
tourach | coz_, awesome. I will finish it then. Thanks very much. Am I ok to paste a finished link in here when it's done? | 15:40 |
coz_ | tourach, well I would join their mailing list and also ask in #edubuntu channel how to submit work | 15:41 |
coz_ | tourach, I havent submitted work for many years so I forget :) | 15:41 |
tourach | thanks very much. Hope I havn't noobed out too much. | 15:42 |
tourach | all the best. | 15:42 |
j_baer | tourach, I am late to this thread. What do you want to do? | 15:42 |
coz_ | tourach, not at all..also you might want to join the ubuntu community art team | 15:42 |
tourach | thanks. | 15:42 |
coz_ | j_baer, he wants to submit some artwork | 15:42 |
tourach | I will paste the unfinished link again | 15:43 |
tourach | http://picpaste.com/raw_levels-6hS4RVjG.png | 15:43 |
j_baer | tourach, very nice. Was this done in GIMP? | 15:44 |
j_baer | My vision is most of the default artwork for default wallpaper will flow threw the Artwork Team via the mailing list. | 15:45 |
tourach | the colour correction was using gimp and gnome-color, but most of it was done using MyPaint | 15:45 |
coz_ | tourach, ah mypaint...congratulations... a worthwhile application :) | 15:45 |
tourach | awesome, I just thought that a painting might be quite cool. As I say its far from finished. | 15:46 |
coz_ | tourach, welll my paint is probably the best natural media application for linux...even competes somwhat with Corel Painter | 15:47 |
tourach | coz_, yeah, I prefer it for mimicking real paint over GIMP. | 15:47 |
j_baer | tourach, check out the wiki ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork ) and join the list. We can certainly use your talents. | 15:47 |
j_baer | I expect wallpaper requests to start showing up shortly. | 15:47 |
tourach | thanks very much, more than anything I will look for suggestions. | 15:48 |
tourach | anyway, I'm gonna shoot. sunday dinner and all. | 15:49 |
tourach | all the best everyone, thanks for your help. | 15:49 |
coz_ | tourach, ok dont forget to come to this channel often :) | 15:49 |
tourach | will do. | 15:49 |
tourach | bye bye | 15:49 |
j_baer | Best regards .. | 15:49 |
vish | j_baer: hey again, you can just idle here ... i think thorwil wanted to mention something and *poof* you were gone ;) .. sometimes people wont be at the computer but will just leave the irc chat client idle | 15:57 |
vish | j_baer: i dont understand the columns in the tasks wiki? what are the statuses | 15:58 |
vish | ? | 15:58 |
vish | j_baer: when does a task get assigned? | 15:58 |
j_baer | Sorry, it seems as soon I open this window up something happens. | 15:58 |
j_baer | My vision is we receive a request from the community to do something. The team via the mailing list discusses the request, the some agreed to accept it. | 16:00 |
j_baer | The next step is to create a spec. | 16:01 |
j_baer | Hold on, I have my first interruption - be right back. | 16:01 |
vish | j_baer: k, so then we need a set of statuses for each of those steps.. first we'd need to know what are all the steps you have in mind. | 16:03 |
vish | j_baer: also, are you planning on working on the LibO icons or designs? | 16:03 |
j_baer | vish - I have exit but I will catch up later. :( I just posted to LibO list late last night and I haven't had a chance to review my email today. I will post something to the list as a step by step. | 16:06 |
vish | j_baer: cool, as for your question yesterday about the survey.. it is to identify the need for a team and how the response will be from the team | 16:06 |
vish | j_baer: k.. bye.. | 16:06 |
j_baer | Cool - bye. | 16:07 |
thorwil | :} | 16:40 |
vish | [21:15] <j_baer> My vision is most of the default artwork for default wallpaper will flow threw the Artwork Team via the mailing list. | 17:29 |
vish | thorwil: not sure how/if that would happen^ | 17:30 |
thorwil | vish: the team is full of people who have at least as much skill and time to spend on it and are in a similarly good position regarding the communication streams to decision makers as chaotic. so it should be no problem to realize that vision and i'm puzzled why it didn't happen yet! | 17:33 |
vish | lol! | 17:35 |
dn_desaku | you would think this channel would be more active | 21:43 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, I have often said that :) | 21:43 |
dn_desaku | coz_ so are you working on anything interesting? | 21:44 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, no really... I have already submitted suggestions for compiz/unitly logo | 21:44 |
dn_desaku | may I see? | 21:45 |
coz_ | ah hold on | 21:45 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, one version http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/compiz-unity/cu3.svg | 21:45 |
dn_desaku | well, I can say that I like cu3 better than cu2 | 21:47 |
dn_desaku | :) | 21:47 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, have you tried compiz/unity? | 21:47 |
dn_desaku | compiz yes, but unity no | 21:48 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, ah ok ,, compiz/unity is the next version .04 | 21:49 |
coz_ | I heard it is not working at the moment | 21:49 |
dn_desaku | ah, I'm very lazy about looking into these things. I don't configure compositing beyond setting effects to the highest option | 21:51 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, oh ok so you didnt get into compizconfig-settings-manager then | 21:51 |
dn_desaku | nope | 21:52 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, much can be done with ccsm ...if you want to test a few things you can meet me in #compiz | 21:52 |
dn_desaku | oh nvm, I lied. I do have it on XD | 21:53 |
coz_ | oh ok :) | 21:54 |
dn_desaku | I remember when I changed the friction of the wobbly windows to near zero | 21:54 |
dn_desaku | it was so broken XD | 21:55 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, yes you dont want to do that again :) | 21:55 |
coz_ | although set correctly,,, you can "toss" windows off the screenw ith that | 21:55 |
coz_ | screen | 21:55 |
dn_desaku | yeah, I was being distracted from writing this code I was on so I decided to screw around with compiz | 21:56 |
dn_desaku | I set friction to near 0 | 21:56 |
dn_desaku | and tossed vim of the monitor | 21:56 |
coz_ | :) | 21:56 |
dn_desaku | I was thinking "dammmmmit" | 21:56 |
dn_desaku | well, I tossed it but it kept on jiggling and I couldn't touch it :( | 21:56 |
dn_desaku | I was so sad | 21:56 |
coz_ | I also want to add that that logo was improved by Cepren although I cant spell that with this keyboard since it's russian :) | 21:57 |
dn_desaku | here was the last thing I drew: http://davidnuon.deviantart.com/art/Swifty-185865115 | 21:58 |
coz_ | ah humming bird :) | 21:58 |
dn_desaku | yeah | 21:59 |
dn_desaku | then I thought | 21:59 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, inkscape? | 21:59 |
dn_desaku | Illustrator | 21:59 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, ah ok ,, have you tried inkscape? | 21:59 |
dn_desaku | yeah | 21:59 |
dn_desaku | I use GIMP and Inkscape when I'm running Ubuntu | 21:59 |
dn_desaku | Adobe CS while on Windows | 21:59 |
coz_ | ah good | 21:59 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, you may be interested in a few other applications on linux Pencil mypaint and Pinta | 22:00 |
dn_desaku | I tried Pencil, I liked it | 22:00 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, not a bad substitute for Flash but has a long way to go | 22:01 |
dn_desaku | I never used Pencil like flash | 22:01 |
dn_desaku | I used Pencil because it was like doing paper animation in real life | 22:01 |
dn_desaku | that's why I liked it | 22:01 |
dn_desaku | but then I found PAP | 22:02 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, ah I see,, it does flash animations as well :) | 22:02 |
dn_desaku | so I got that | 22:02 |
coz_ | PAP ? | 22:02 |
dn_desaku | Plastic Animation Paper | 22:02 |
coz_ | for linux? | 22:02 |
dn_desaku | Windows | 22:02 |
coz_ | oh its for linux as well | 22:03 |
coz_ | http://plasticanimationpaper.dk/download3.asp | 22:03 |
coz_ | whoa costs are way too high | 22:03 |
dn_desaku | what, I remember it costing less | 22:04 |
dn_desaku | way less | 22:04 |
dn_desaku | oh yeah, when PAP wasn't free, I did all my animation in Photoshop XD | 22:05 |
coz_ | ooo that uses an outdatd libstcd+= library | 22:06 |
coz_ | outdated | 22:06 |
dn_desaku | pap? | 22:06 |
coz_ | yes | 22:06 |
coz_ | trying to fix it here | 22:06 |
dn_desaku | yeah, the devs stopped working on it | 22:06 |
coz_ | doesnt work well | 22:07 |
dn_desaku | coz_, so what kind of artist are you? | 22:08 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, mypaint is a natureal media application if that interests you | 22:08 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, well... I am a painter and sculptor by training but on linux I do all of the graphics for compiz ,, some for cairo dock and hopefully some for compiz-unity | 22:09 |
dn_desaku | coz_, ah, I'm just an illustrator and graphic designer :) | 22:10 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, "just" ?? | 22:10 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, nothing just about illustration or graphic design :) | 22:11 |
dn_desaku | haha | 22:11 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, all of the arts take the same concentration and creative enery to work in so none of it is lesser or greater | 22:11 |
dn_desaku | 'just', as in what I focus on :P | 22:12 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, the final composition is the thing that counts | 22:12 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, ah understood | 22:12 |
dn_desaku | coz_, my any chance do you use a wacom tablet on ubuntu? | 22:13 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, i do yes I have a wacom intuos3 9x12 | 22:14 |
dn_desaku | do you have one monitor or two? | 22:14 |
coz_ | 2 | 22:14 |
coz_ | 9x12 would be painful on one monitor :) | 22:14 |
dn_desaku | XD | 22:14 |
dn_desaku | how would I constrain the tablet cursor to one monitor? | 22:15 |
coz_ | I have a smalle wacom I could use but I find it too sensitive | 22:15 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, mmm | 22:15 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, why would you want that? | 22:15 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, you would probably have to set up wacom to use only the primary monitor | 22:15 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, what size tablet is it? | 22:15 |
dn_desaku | I don't know the size, it's the smaller early bamboo | 22:16 |
dn_desaku | let me check | 22:16 |
dn_desaku | 5.8* 3.7 | 22:17 |
dn_desaku | in inches | 22:17 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, and you have dual monitors? | 22:17 |
dn_desaku | yes | 22:17 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, ooo that table would be all over the place | 22:17 |
coz_ | tablet | 22:17 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, its too sensitive for both monitors yes? small movement on table ...big movement on dual screens | 22:18 |
coz_ | tablet | 22:18 |
dn_desaku | yeah XD | 22:18 |
coz_ | yeah same issue with same size table if I connected it ....mmmm | 22:18 |
coz_ | let me check something | 22:18 |
dn_desaku | I think you're supposed to edit an x config file but I don't know which one T_T | 22:19 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, well you might have to write to the xorg.conf but hold on I am checking | 22:20 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, you might be interested in this which I found while searching for settings ,,,I have no idea if it works http://gtk-apps.org/content/show.php/Wacom+Control+Panel?content=104309 | 22:25 |
dn_desaku | oo thanks | 22:26 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, I am going to test that utility now so hold on | 22:28 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, well it installed and seems to work ,, but wont know for sure until i restart | 22:31 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, i am not finding much on calibrating the tablet for use on primary monitor... and I cant think of a good channel to go to for that ,,,, unless ##linux might know | 22:33 |
dn_desaku | I found this: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man4/wacom.4x.html | 22:33 |
dn_desaku | and I think I'm going to screw around with that for a bit | 22:34 |
coz_ | ok let me know if you get it to work properly ,, it would come in handy later :) | 22:34 |
dn_desaku | here we go: Option "ScreenNo" "n" | 22:35 |
coz_ | cool | 22:35 |
dn_desaku | oh god, I don't see any wacom config in xorg.conf. I'll have to write it myself :\ | 22:37 |
dn_desaku | oh well | 22:37 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, ooo yeah that has been changed | 22:37 |
dn_desaku | damn, my laziness is not rewarded XD | 22:38 |
coz_ | sorry about that | 22:38 |
dn_desaku | well, now I know what to do now | 22:39 |
coz_ | dn_desaku, ok cool | 22:39 |
dn_desaku | thanks for the help :) | 22:40 |
coz_ | no problem let me know if all works out well :) | 22:40 |
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