[00:30] Doctormo ? === DanRabbit_ is now known as DanRabbit [08:52] hrm! artwork ML has its own fredrik! [08:57] lol [08:57] vish: that's not fair [08:57] :p [09:04] vish: argh, John mailed to libreoffice-marketing, "representing" the artwork team, basically offering our services as a unit [09:05] exactly why i remarked..! ;) [09:06] but of course! vish is already there [09:07] thorwil: nah, not subscribed there, but it was brought to my attention.. [09:08] vish: i will answer that mail to say that it will make more sense for libreoffice to manage design tasks themselves [09:15] thorwil: any news on the brainstorm site? [09:17] vish: you saw the post on the planet, about the brainstorm site receiving some scheduled attention? [09:17] thorwil: oh? i must have missed it.. :( [09:18] vish: http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2010/11/03/weathering-the-ubuntu-brainstorm/ [09:20] vish: it seemed like there would be nothing stopping the logo update anymore, but it still didn't happen, so far [09:20] thorwil: yea i saw this one, but that does not mention anything about the site being updated, but rather about the ideas getting attention.. [09:21] thorwil: right, i dint want to mention about chaotic/marcus in the reply.. maybe one of them should reply to the list.. [09:22] vish: when i talked with Iain at uds, he said he thought UB might be about to be phased out, but that blog post cleared that up [09:23] cool.. maybe we should use UB more for ayatana.. and then it would get phased out ;) [09:23] heh [09:35] thorwil: what are the different statuses for the task wiki page? [09:35] vish: hmm? ask John, i guess? [09:36] hmm.. [09:44] * thorwil puts vish in BCC [09:52] not even sure what john was/is thinking … how can we offer services when we arent even active :s [09:52] and can manage/complete our own tasks.. [09:52] cant* [09:54] yeah [09:56] lovely. the wiki css will need some love. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks?action=diff&rev1=15&rev2=16 [09:56] Deletions are marked like this. Additions are marked like this. [09:57] not to forget: text is marked like this [09:58] lol!!! [10:16] argh and there seems no way to indent lines twice, or atleast it has changed with the new wiki [10:20] hrm! and no italics?!!? === Cimi__ is now known as Cimi === zniavre__ is now known as zniavre [15:21] hey everyone [15:23] I'm working on some concept art, just enquiring on where to upload to for people to have a look. Please excuse if im typing in the wrong place, never used IRC before. [15:30] tourach, this is for ubuntu this concept art? [15:31] hi coz_, yes it is. [15:32] its not finished, but just thought I'd get an opinion on style, before finishing it [15:32] tourach, ah so you want someone here to look at it? [15:32] if that's ok. [15:33] I've never tried to submit anything before [15:33] so didn't want to look like a fool, posting in the wrong place [15:33] tourach, well if you just want someone here to look at it you can upload the image to picpaste.com and then link it here [15:34] tourach, if you want to submit artwork ,mm let me check for the link [15:34] thank you, that's great. [15:36] coz_, the link is http://picpaste.com/raw_levels-6hS4RVjG.png [15:37] tourach, check this link ... there is a link to the mailing list https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork?action=show&redirect=ArtworkTeam [15:37] tourach, interesting work :)... also remember that natty narwhol is a narwhol :) [15:38] coz_, thanks coz. So no penguin? [15:39] tourach, well ... that is entirely up to you...but if you want your work to be considered for the next version... a penquin is generally just the general linux image [15:40] tourach, although an image like that might also be considered for Edubuntu [15:40] coz_, awesome. I will finish it then. Thanks very much. Am I ok to paste a finished link in here when it's done? [15:41] tourach, well I would join their mailing list and also ask in #edubuntu channel how to submit work [15:41] tourach, I havent submitted work for many years so I forget :) [15:42] thanks very much. Hope I havn't noobed out too much. [15:42] all the best. [15:42] tourach, I am late to this thread. What do you want to do? [15:42] tourach, not at all..also you might want to join the ubuntu community art team [15:42] thanks. [15:42] j_baer, he wants to submit some artwork [15:43] I will paste the unfinished link again [15:43] http://picpaste.com/raw_levels-6hS4RVjG.png [15:44] tourach, very nice. Was this done in GIMP? [15:45] My vision is most of the default artwork for default wallpaper will flow threw the Artwork Team via the mailing list. [15:45] the colour correction was using gimp and gnome-color, but most of it was done using MyPaint [15:45] tourach, ah mypaint...congratulations... a worthwhile application :) [15:46] awesome, I just thought that a painting might be quite cool. As I say its far from finished. [15:47] tourach, welll my paint is probably the best natural media application for linux...even competes somwhat with Corel Painter [15:47] coz_, yeah, I prefer it for mimicking real paint over GIMP. [15:47] tourach, check out the wiki ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork ) and join the list. We can certainly use your talents. [15:47] I expect wallpaper requests to start showing up shortly. [15:48] thanks very much, more than anything I will look for suggestions. [15:49] anyway, I'm gonna shoot. sunday dinner and all. [15:49] all the best everyone, thanks for your help. [15:49] tourach, ok dont forget to come to this channel often :) [15:49] will do. [15:49] bye bye [15:49] Best regards .. [15:57] j_baer: hey again, you can just idle here ... i think thorwil wanted to mention something and *poof* you were gone ;) .. sometimes people wont be at the computer but will just leave the irc chat client idle [15:58] j_baer: i dont understand the columns in the tasks wiki? what are the statuses [15:58] ? [15:58] j_baer: when does a task get assigned? [15:58] Sorry, it seems as soon I open this window up something happens. [16:00] My vision is we receive a request from the community to do something. The team via the mailing list discusses the request, the some agreed to accept it. [16:01] The next step is to create a spec. [16:01] Hold on, I have my first interruption - be right back. [16:03] j_baer: k, so then we need a set of statuses for each of those steps.. first we'd need to know what are all the steps you have in mind. [16:03] j_baer: also, are you planning on working on the LibO icons or designs? [16:06] vish - I have exit but I will catch up later. :( I just posted to LibO list late last night and I haven't had a chance to review my email today. I will post something to the list as a step by step. [16:06] j_baer: cool, as for your question yesterday about the survey.. it is to identify the need for a team and how the response will be from the team [16:06] j_baer: k.. bye.. [16:07] Cool - bye. [16:40] :} [17:29] [21:15] My vision is most of the default artwork for default wallpaper will flow threw the Artwork Team via the mailing list. [17:30] thorwil: not sure how/if that would happen^ [17:33] vish: the team is full of people who have at least as much skill and time to spend on it and are in a similarly good position regarding the communication streams to decision makers as chaotic. so it should be no problem to realize that vision and i'm puzzled why it didn't happen yet! [17:35] lol! [21:43] you would think this channel would be more active [21:43] dn_desaku, I have often said that :) [21:44] coz_ so are you working on anything interesting? [21:44] dn_desaku, no really... I have already submitted suggestions for compiz/unitly logo [21:45] may I see? [21:45] ah hold on [21:45] dn_desaku, one version http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/compiz-unity/cu3.svg [21:47] well, I can say that I like cu3 better than cu2 [21:47] :) [21:47] dn_desaku, have you tried compiz/unity? [21:48] compiz yes, but unity no [21:49] dn_desaku, ah ok ,, compiz/unity is the next version .04 [21:49] I heard it is not working at the moment [21:51] ah, I'm very lazy about looking into these things. I don't configure compositing beyond setting effects to the highest option [21:51] dn_desaku, oh ok so you didnt get into compizconfig-settings-manager then [21:52] nope [21:52] dn_desaku, much can be done with ccsm ...if you want to test a few things you can meet me in #compiz [21:53] oh nvm, I lied. I do have it on XD [21:54] oh ok :) [21:54] I remember when I changed the friction of the wobbly windows to near zero [21:55] it was so broken XD [21:55] dn_desaku, yes you dont want to do that again :) [21:55] although set correctly,,, you can "toss" windows off the screenw ith that [21:55] screen [21:56] yeah, I was being distracted from writing this code I was on so I decided to screw around with compiz [21:56] I set friction to near 0 [21:56] and tossed vim of the monitor [21:56] :) [21:56] I was thinking "dammmmmit" [21:56] well, I tossed it but it kept on jiggling and I couldn't touch it :( [21:56] I was so sad [21:57] I also want to add that that logo was improved by Cepren although I cant spell that with this keyboard since it's russian :) [21:58] here was the last thing I drew: http://davidnuon.deviantart.com/art/Swifty-185865115 [21:58] ah humming bird :) [21:59] yeah [21:59] then I thought [21:59] dn_desaku, inkscape? [21:59] Illustrator [21:59] dn_desaku, ah ok ,, have you tried inkscape? [21:59] yeah [21:59] I use GIMP and Inkscape when I'm running Ubuntu [21:59] Adobe CS while on Windows [21:59] ah good [22:00] dn_desaku, you may be interested in a few other applications on linux Pencil mypaint and Pinta [22:00] I tried Pencil, I liked it [22:01] dn_desaku, not a bad substitute for Flash but has a long way to go [22:01] I never used Pencil like flash [22:01] I used Pencil because it was like doing paper animation in real life [22:01] that's why I liked it [22:02] but then I found PAP [22:02] dn_desaku, ah I see,, it does flash animations as well :) [22:02] so I got that [22:02] PAP ? [22:02] Plastic Animation Paper [22:02] for linux? [22:02] Windows [22:03] oh its for linux as well [22:03] http://plasticanimationpaper.dk/download3.asp [22:03] whoa costs are way too high [22:04] what, I remember it costing less [22:04] way less [22:05] oh yeah, when PAP wasn't free, I did all my animation in Photoshop XD [22:06] ooo that uses an outdatd libstcd+= library [22:06] outdated [22:06] pap? [22:06] yes [22:06] trying to fix it here [22:06] yeah, the devs stopped working on it [22:07] doesnt work well [22:08] coz_, so what kind of artist are you? [22:08] dn_desaku, mypaint is a natureal media application if that interests you [22:09] dn_desaku, well... I am a painter and sculptor by training but on linux I do all of the graphics for compiz ,, some for cairo dock and hopefully some for compiz-unity [22:10] coz_, ah, I'm just an illustrator and graphic designer :) [22:10] dn_desaku, "just" ?? [22:11] dn_desaku, nothing just about illustration or graphic design :) [22:11] haha [22:11] dn_desaku, all of the arts take the same concentration and creative enery to work in so none of it is lesser or greater [22:12] 'just', as in what I focus on :P [22:12] dn_desaku, the final composition is the thing that counts [22:12] dn_desaku, ah understood [22:13] coz_, my any chance do you use a wacom tablet on ubuntu? [22:14] dn_desaku, i do yes I have a wacom intuos3 9x12 [22:14] do you have one monitor or two? [22:14] 2 [22:14] 9x12 would be painful on one monitor :) [22:14] XD [22:15] how would I constrain the tablet cursor to one monitor? [22:15] I have a smalle wacom I could use but I find it too sensitive [22:15] dn_desaku, mmm [22:15] dn_desaku, why would you want that? [22:15] dn_desaku, you would probably have to set up wacom to use only the primary monitor [22:15] dn_desaku, what size tablet is it? [22:16] I don't know the size, it's the smaller early bamboo [22:16] let me check [22:17] 5.8* 3.7 [22:17] in inches [22:17] dn_desaku, and you have dual monitors? [22:17] yes [22:17] dn_desaku, ooo that table would be all over the place [22:17] tablet [22:18] dn_desaku, its too sensitive for both monitors yes? small movement on table ...big movement on dual screens [22:18] tablet [22:18] yeah XD [22:18] yeah same issue with same size table if I connected it ....mmmm [22:18] let me check something [22:19] I think you're supposed to edit an x config file but I don't know which one T_T [22:20] dn_desaku, well you might have to write to the xorg.conf but hold on I am checking [22:25] dn_desaku, you might be interested in this which I found while searching for settings ,,,I have no idea if it works http://gtk-apps.org/content/show.php/Wacom+Control+Panel?content=104309 [22:26] oo thanks [22:28] dn_desaku, I am going to test that utility now so hold on [22:31] dn_desaku, well it installed and seems to work ,, but wont know for sure until i restart [22:33] dn_desaku, i am not finding much on calibrating the tablet for use on primary monitor... and I cant think of a good channel to go to for that ,,,, unless ##linux might know [22:33] I found this: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man4/wacom.4x.html [22:34] and I think I'm going to screw around with that for a bit [22:34] ok let me know if you get it to work properly ,, it would come in handy later :) [22:35] here we go: Option "ScreenNo" "n" [22:35] cool [22:37] oh god, I don't see any wacom config in xorg.conf. I'll have to write it myself :\ [22:37] oh well [22:37] dn_desaku, ooo yeah that has been changed [22:38] damn, my laziness is not rewarded XD [22:38] sorry about that [22:39] well, now I know what to do now [22:39] dn_desaku, ok cool [22:40] thanks for the help :) [22:40] no problem let me know if all works out well :)