[00:41] <blahdeblah> head_victim: I was just going to say that the way i would do that is to just dd the whole 80 GB drive (unless it's not very full) over the top of the 120 GB drive
[00:42] <blahdeblah> (i.e. dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdd bs=256k or something  like that - be careful though: if you mix up the drives, you'll trash your data.)
[00:43] <blahdeblah> That would copy the entire drive including partition table.  Then you could use gparted to expand the partition and filesystem sizes to their maximum.
[00:43] <blahdeblah> That's the way i would do it, unless there were other things i wanted to do at the time, like convert to LVM, or use a different filesystem type.
[00:44] <head_victim> Oh sorry yeah that
[00:44] <head_victim> I ended up dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdc1
[00:45] <head_victim> I tried the cp one but it kept whinging about out of space so I was playing with dd and then I realised I'd partitioned it wrong so after repartitioning it now running
[00:47] <head_victim> Didn't use any bs switches though, is that enouhg of a drama to want to redo it when it's done?
[00:47] <blahdeblah> no, just makes it faster
[00:47] <blahdeblah> bs is block size, and i usually use at least 256 KB, often 1 MB
[00:48] <head_victim> Yeah, some people suggest 4mb, some suggest smaller, some don't use it so I just thought I wouldn't use it for now
[00:48] <blahdeblah> If you're less than 20% of the way through, it's probably worth stopping and restarting the process with bs to get the speed gain.
[00:48] <head_victim> Nah as long as it takes less than a day I'm right
[00:48] <blahdeblah> If you don't use bs, it defaults to 512 bytes, which is ridiculously small nowadays
[00:51] <head_victim> It was only an 80gb drive with about 5 - 10 gb used so it's not a 1tb or anything.
[06:39] <head_victim> elky: I've noticed that there's emails showing up on the gmane list online but not coming to my email address. The last one from nisshh never hit my inbox.
[06:40] <nisshh> i second that elky ^^^^
[06:40] <nisshh> same happens for me
[06:41] <head_victim> Still getting the moderation ones though.
[06:42] <elky> my inbox matches gmane
[06:43] <elky> LoCo Day successfully got to me
[06:43] <head_victim> I don't have the last one from the list where he wrote up the wiki 
[06:43] <darkrose> last list email I got was LoCo Day
[06:43] <elky> head_victim, could you use subject lines to speed this up?
[06:43] <elky> "the one where he did action" means I have to read all the mails :P
[06:44] <head_victim> Sorry
[06:44] <elky> I see a bounce for nisshh for 00:22.
[06:44] <head_victim> Actually it was the third last one
[06:44] <head_victim> I'm getting myself confused I was looking at it last night
[06:44] <nisshh> i havent got any since i sent the loco day one to the list
[06:44] <elky> ah no, that's a reply
[06:45] <elky> nisshh, i'm confused. was that or was that not the last mail you sent?
[06:47] <head_victim> I thought I'd missed the "IRC fortnightly sessions" and "Loco day" but have reread my inbox and they're there now.
[06:48] <elky> usually if they show up on gmane or the mailman archive, you just need to wait for a clog in the mail queue to pass.
[06:48] <head_victim> Ah ok *makes mental note*
[06:49] <blahdeblah> head_victim: I'm not even getting password reminders when i ask for them from mailman at https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/options/ubuntu-au
[06:49] <elky> highly visible mail servers manage to find themselves under large piles of spam to deal with occasionally, sometimes these large piles of spam will strike in the middle of sending out the same mail to 300 people.
[06:49] <head_victim> I'd hate to think how much traffic lists.ubuntu.com gets :/
[06:49] <elky> a metric beeptonne.
[06:49] <nisshh> elky, that was the last email i sent to the list
[06:50] <head_victim> Maybe it's lagging a bit then.
[06:50] <nisshh> i would say a lot
[06:51] <nisshh> since i sent the loco day mail a long time ago
[06:51] <elky> it's also why the sysadmins ask that we don't blacklist addresses unless they're responsible for lots of bad mails.
[06:51] <head_victim> Fair call, I default to discard.
[06:52] <elky> yep, good
[06:52] <nisshh> elky, my email isnt blacklisted is it?
[06:52] <head_victim> I think that was one of the first things you mentioned when I started it. It's been a good learning experience actually.
[06:53] <elky> head_victim, as a datapoint, I was taken off the moderator list for ubuntu-users recently, the amount of spam I get has reduced to a fraction
[06:53] <elky> nisshh, no
[06:53] <nisshh> ok
[06:54] <nisshh> actually
[06:54] <nisshh> now ive looked
[06:54] <nisshh> i dont have anything from the list since the 10th of this month
[06:54] <elky> nisshh, and if you don't send us "make your peepee bigger" mails in quantities of 10/day, we wont.
[06:54] <head_victim> I'm so glad I use filters though, I'd have no idea how to cope with it otherwise.
[06:54] <nisshh> elky, yeah, of course
[06:55] <Zanthus> just one question - unity, as it appears in 10.10, requires some sort of hardware graphics acceleration to run doesn't it?  like a nvidia or ati GPU?
[06:56] <elky> Zanthus, intel acceleration is fine too
[06:59] <nisshh> Zanthus, i ran Unity on my P4 with an Intel IGP here, works fine
[06:59] <nisshh> just a bit slow thats all'
[06:59] <Zanthus> I might give it a try on this netbook then
[06:59] <nisshh> you should
[07:00] <head_victim> I'm hanging out for the first iso's with it on the desktop so I can vm it.
[07:00] <nisshh> unless its a really useless netbook, itll run it
[07:00] <darkrose> don't forget nisshh's hardware predates silicon
[07:00] <nisshh> darkrose, i cant argue with that :)
[07:03] <head_victim> blahdeblah: see if it turns up in the next 24 hours I guess (re the password thing), I have no idea how much lag could be in the system.
[10:03] <jfer> nisshh:are there any classroom sessions planned yet?
[10:05] <nisshh> jfer, do you mean for the classroom thing i organised? or for loco day?
[10:06] <jfer> oh so there are 2 separate things?
[10:07] <nisshh> jfer, yes, but if your reffering to the topic i talked about last meeting then you will remember i said im taking suggestions
[10:07] <nisshh> so suggest away :)
[10:08] <nisshh> jfer, the first session will probably be held sometime late december/early january
[10:08] <jfer> ok. i would be interested in a session on triaging bugs
[10:08] <nisshh> maybe earier
[10:08] <nisshh> good suggestions
[10:08] <nisshh> i should make a list
[10:09] <jfer> perhaps you could add a suggestions section to the wiki
[10:09] <nisshh> ah thats right
[10:09] <nisshh> thanks for reminding me jfer :)
[10:09] <nisshh> jfer, have you seen the wiki page for it?
[10:10] <jfer> yes, I have.
[10:10] <nisshh> cool
[10:10] <jfer> i think if be make better use of the wiki it will help us regain official LoCo status
[10:10] <nisshh> jfer, although, if you want a session on triaging bugs, i expect you to come to the session (i dont want people suggesting sessions they want and then going away)
[10:11] <nisshh> jfer, exactly
[10:11] <nisshh> also
[10:11] <nisshh> i havent added it to the projects page yet :)
[10:12] <jfer> do you have experience in triaging bugs? 
[10:13] <nisshh> jfer, ive been on the bugsquad for 4 months
[10:13] <nisshh> im no guru
[10:13] <nisshh> but i know the basics plus some more
[10:13] <nisshh> and i have experience as well
[10:14] <darkrose> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/BugJams/HowToTriageClass2010July24m/Projects/BugJams/HowToTriageClass2010July24
[10:15] <jfer> ok. I have no real experience yet. I suspect a class aimed at beginners would be appropriate.
[10:15] <darkrose> logs from the last how-to-triage we had in here
[10:16] <nisshh> darkrose, 1) that was ages ago 2) kermiac is busy and 3) the bugjam is a social event, not a how-to-triage event
[10:16] <nisshh> jfer, yeah, my thinking exactly
[10:17] <nisshh> jfer, please add suggestions to the wiki if you have any more :)
[10:18] <darkrose> nisshh: 1) 2.5 months 2) doesn't make the data any less valid 3) "HowToTriageClass" looks like a how-to to me
[10:20] <nisshh> meh, whatever
[12:01] <jfer> i am having trouble packaging something
[12:01] <jfer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/531148/
[12:01] <jfer> i keep getting this error
[12:02] <dns53> you have all the required libraries to build the package?
[12:03] <dns53> have a look on line 1337 of the make file
[12:05] <elky> 1337, lol
[12:05] <elky> sorry, carry on
[12:05] <sagaci> yeah saw that too
[12:06] <jfer> ok i tried making the package with the make command and it worked
[12:06] <jfer> hang on i think something may not be listed in the depends because debuild is a minimal build environment
[13:02] <elky> !irclogs > cthulhu