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sonia_Hello, can you guys help me to log in through SSH?18:40
sonia_I already got the IP address, what exactly should I type in terminal (never used SSH before).18:40
sonia_Anyone?18:42
sonia_It's already running on the cloud so the timer is going down.18:42
dakersonia_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/ConnectingTo18:43
sonia_Yep, I saw that. Should I use my username on my computer then?18:43
sonia_Or sonia@soniadesktop and then the IP address18:43
erichammondsonia_: What cloud?18:44
sonia_EC2 I think. I wanted to try it out so it's running on the Amazon cloud18:44
sonia_I get a connection time out if I use [user]@[IP address]18:45
erichammondsonia_: What AMI id did you run?18:45
sonia_AMI?18:45
sonia_Base Install if that's what you mean18:45
erichammondUbuntu version?18:45
sonia_I was running the trial, server.18:46
sonia_The one here https://10.cloud.ubuntu.com/18:46
erichammondsonia_: Ah, thanks.18:46
sonia_So how do I log in?18:46
erichammondsonia_: Did you use an existing launchpad.net account?18:47
sonia_Yep18:47
erichammondsonia_: ssh ubuntu@IPADDRESS18:47
mhall119it should use your ssh key from launchpad18:47
mhall119do you still have the private key that goes with the one in launchpad for your account?18:47
erichammondsonia_: or, you can specify your ssh key file: ssh -i KEYFILE ubuntu@IPADDRESS18:47
sonia_Um, okay I'll try that18:48
sonia_Still getting this ssh: connect to host 174.129.130.30 port 22: Connection timed out18:51
sonia_Does the cloud use a different port or something?18:51
erichammondsonia_: Either you have the wrong IP address, or 10.ubuntu.com is not setting up the instance/security group correctly.18:52
erichammonder, 10.cloud.ubuntu.com18:52
sonia_Yeah, the website then because during the entire session you can see the IP on the bottom18:53
erichammondsonia_: Though "free" sounds attractive, you can easily set up an AWS account and try it yourself for under a dime an hour.18:53
sonia_Does Launchpad have a delay on registering your SSH key?18:53
erichammondsonia_: Your key has nothing to do with the current problem you are seeing.18:53
sonia_Once you put it in.18:53
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sonia_Okay, so it's purely a connection issue?18:53
erichammondYep18:54
sonia_I understand.18:54
sonia_Um...I guess I'll just install it on my machine then :)18:54
erichammondsonia_: There's nothing to install with EC2.  You can sign up here: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/18:55
sonia_Okay, thanks man!18:56
erichammondsonia_: or, perhaps you're talking about UEC which is completely different from Amazon EC2?18:56
sonia_UEC is a different version of the OS no?18:56
erichammondsonia_: UEC is some software you run on your own hardware.  EC2 is infrastructure as a service provided by Amazon.  You can run Ubuntu on both.18:57
sonia_I see, UEC is also for cloud computing though no? I mean, all I wanted was to test drive Ubuntu Server, I have no need for a cloud.18:58
erichammondWith EC2, Amazon owns and maintains the hardware.  You rent by the hour and have root access to your own Ubuntu servers.18:58
erichammond"cloud" is a meaningless marketing term as far as I'm concerned.  If you describe what you are trying to accomplish I might be able to point in a direction.18:59
sonia_I actually just wanted to test out Ubuntu Server.19:00
erichammondsonia_: Do you have your own hardware you want to run it on?19:00
sonia_I'm gonna be setting up only one machine with that, and use it to run an FTP server.19:01
sonia_Yes.19:01
erichammondsonia_: Ok, then you really don't need "cloud" of any sort.  Just download Ubuntu, burn a CD, and install it on that box.  More help available over in #ubuntu-server19:02
sonia_Yes, thanks for all the help.19:02
erichammondsonia_: Though I do recommend checking out Amazon EC2 with Ubuntu at some point.  You could run an FTP server there pretty cheap and not have to worry about hardware.19:02
sonia_How cheap?19:02
erichammondsonia_: It depends on how much power you need, bandwidth, etc.  EC2 charges you for what you use.19:03
sonia_Okay, I see. Thanks for all the help.19:03
erichammondsonia_: It could be as cheap as, say, $70/month19:04
erichammondhttp://ec2pricing.notlong.com19:04
sonia_I think I'll pass on that, it's not like I'm going to be running a business with it.19:05
mhall119the micro instance is less than that isn't it?19:08
sonia_Alright, I think I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the help.19:09
mhall119of is the micro instance $0.10/hr?19:09
erichammondmhall119: micro is cheaper, but you should toss in a penny or two for EBS volume storage, EBS snapshots, EBS IO requests, network traffic, etc.19:42
erichammondI don't recommend using EC2 if the hourly charge is at the upper limit of your budget.19:43

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