[17:37] <SH4rma> hi
[18:40] <sonia_> Hello, can you guys help me to log in through SSH?
[18:40] <sonia_> I already got the IP address, what exactly should I type in terminal (never used SSH before).
[18:42] <sonia_> Anyone?
[18:42] <sonia_> It's already running on the cloud so the timer is going down.
[18:43] <daker> sonia_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/ConnectingTo
[18:43] <sonia_> Yep, I saw that. Should I use my username on my computer then?
[18:43] <sonia_> Or sonia@soniadesktop and then the IP address
[18:44] <erichammond> sonia_: What cloud?
[18:44] <sonia_> EC2 I think. I wanted to try it out so it's running on the Amazon cloud
[18:45] <sonia_> I get a connection time out if I use [user]@[IP address]
[18:45] <erichammond> sonia_: What AMI id did you run?
[18:45] <sonia_> AMI?
[18:45] <sonia_> Base Install if that's what you mean
[18:45] <erichammond> Ubuntu version?
[18:46] <sonia_> I was running the trial, server.
[18:46] <sonia_> The one here https://10.cloud.ubuntu.com/
[18:46] <erichammond> sonia_: Ah, thanks.
[18:46] <sonia_> So how do I log in?
[18:47] <erichammond> sonia_: Did you use an existing launchpad.net account?
[18:47] <sonia_> Yep
[18:47] <erichammond> sonia_: ssh ubuntu@IPADDRESS
[18:47] <mhall119> it should use your ssh key from launchpad
[18:47] <mhall119> do you still have the private key that goes with the one in launchpad for your account?
[18:47] <erichammond> sonia_: or, you can specify your ssh key file: ssh -i KEYFILE ubuntu@IPADDRESS
[18:48] <sonia_> Um, okay I'll try that
[18:51] <sonia_> Still getting this ssh: connect to host 174.129.130.30 port 22: Connection timed out
[18:51] <sonia_> Does the cloud use a different port or something?
[18:52] <erichammond> sonia_: Either you have the wrong IP address, or 10.ubuntu.com is not setting up the instance/security group correctly.
[18:52] <erichammond> er, 10.cloud.ubuntu.com
[18:53] <sonia_> Yeah, the website then because during the entire session you can see the IP on the bottom
[18:53] <erichammond> sonia_: Though "free" sounds attractive, you can easily set up an AWS account and try it yourself for under a dime an hour.
[18:53] <sonia_> Does Launchpad have a delay on registering your SSH key?
[18:53] <erichammond> sonia_: Your key has nothing to do with the current problem you are seeing.
[18:53] <sonia_> Once you put it in.
[18:53] <sonia_> Okay, so it's purely a connection issue?
[18:54] <erichammond> Yep
[18:54] <sonia_> I understand.
[18:54] <sonia_> Um...I guess I'll just install it on my machine then :)
[18:55] <erichammond> sonia_: There's nothing to install with EC2.  You can sign up here: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/
[18:56] <sonia_> Okay, thanks man!
[18:56] <erichammond> sonia_: or, perhaps you're talking about UEC which is completely different from Amazon EC2?
[18:56] <sonia_> UEC is a different version of the OS no?
[18:57] <erichammond> sonia_: UEC is some software you run on your own hardware.  EC2 is infrastructure as a service provided by Amazon.  You can run Ubuntu on both.
[18:58] <sonia_> I see, UEC is also for cloud computing though no? I mean, all I wanted was to test drive Ubuntu Server, I have no need for a cloud.
[18:58] <erichammond> With EC2, Amazon owns and maintains the hardware.  You rent by the hour and have root access to your own Ubuntu servers.
[18:59] <erichammond> "cloud" is a meaningless marketing term as far as I'm concerned.  If you describe what you are trying to accomplish I might be able to point in a direction.
[19:00] <sonia_> I actually just wanted to test out Ubuntu Server.
[19:00] <erichammond> sonia_: Do you have your own hardware you want to run it on?
[19:01] <sonia_> I'm gonna be setting up only one machine with that, and use it to run an FTP server.
[19:01] <sonia_> Yes.
[19:02] <erichammond> sonia_: Ok, then you really don't need "cloud" of any sort.  Just download Ubuntu, burn a CD, and install it on that box.  More help available over in #ubuntu-server
[19:02] <sonia_> Yes, thanks for all the help.
[19:02] <erichammond> sonia_: Though I do recommend checking out Amazon EC2 with Ubuntu at some point.  You could run an FTP server there pretty cheap and not have to worry about hardware.
[19:02] <sonia_> How cheap?
[19:03] <erichammond> sonia_: It depends on how much power you need, bandwidth, etc.  EC2 charges you for what you use.
[19:03] <sonia_> Okay, I see. Thanks for all the help.
[19:04] <erichammond> sonia_: It could be as cheap as, say, $70/month
[19:04] <erichammond> http://ec2pricing.notlong.com
[19:05] <sonia_> I think I'll pass on that, it's not like I'm going to be running a business with it.
[19:08] <mhall119> the micro instance is less than that isn't it?
[19:09] <sonia_> Alright, I think I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the help.
[19:09] <mhall119> of is the micro instance $0.10/hr?
[19:42] <erichammond> mhall119: micro is cheaper, but you should toss in a penny or two for EBS volume storage, EBS snapshots, EBS IO requests, network traffic, etc.
[19:43] <erichammond> I don't recommend using EC2 if the hourly charge is at the upper limit of your budget.