| kim0 | duanedesign: hey there .. sorry for not noticing your question earlier .. Well I can't really say I've seen a killer cloud book. It's not really a separate field, any seasoned Linux server sys-admin is going to feel mostly at home. It's all about config management, and a high level of automation (unless your work for amazon :) | 00:08 |
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| kim0 | duanedesign: might wanna hang out in #ubuntu-cloud as well | 00:09 |
| kim0 | and since it's past 2am for me .. I need to disappear :) | 00:09 |
| ScottL | doctormo, i realized my previous comment may seem inordinately negative so i would like to clarify | 02:00 |
| ScottL | i will be happy to be of any possible assistance and i look forward to talking with you next week about helping you with wacom support :) | 02:01 |
| nigelb | Morning folks | 02:47 |
| nigelb | darn, I missed paultag. :/ | 02:47 |
| duanedesign | helloooo nigelb | 03:16 |
| nigelb | hello duanedesign | 03:20 |
| doctormo | ScottL: I didn't take it in any other way than positive :-) I knew what you meant. | 06:08 |
| === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell | ||
| sense | goedemorgen | 09:47 |
| duanedesign | morning sense | 12:53 |
| sense | hi duanedesign | 12:56 |
| nigelb | 'lo sense and duanedesign :) | 12:56 |
| nigelb | taking a nap 'for just half an hour' wasn't a great idea | 12:57 |
| sense | hi ni | 12:58 |
| duanedesign | nigelb: heh, i do that sometimes on my lunch break if I am really tired | 12:59 |
| duanedesign | nigelb: its a little iffy if it is helpful or not :P | 12:59 |
| nigelb | heh | 13:03 |
| vish | duanedesign: hey.. is there a beginners team for fixing bugs? | 13:55 |
| duanedesign | vish: there is. We have a Bugs Focus Group. | 13:58 |
| vish | duanedesign: hmm, i thought that was the bug triage focus | 13:59 |
| duanedesign | vish: ohh, i see | 14:01 |
| duanedesign | vish: i am sorry. not awake yet. 'fixing' bugs :) | 14:02 |
| vish | hmm, the beginners team wiki is a bit confusing.. | 14:02 |
| vish | duanedesign: np.. :) | 14:02 |
| vish | how very odd!!! | 14:03 |
| duanedesign | vish: what part is confusing? | 14:03 |
| vish | Ubuntu has existed for so long and there seems to be no team for fixing bugs.. | 14:03 |
| vish | or atleast i cant find any. ;) | 14:03 |
| vish | duanedesign: info-overload on : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam | 14:04 |
| vish | not sure why the IRC channels for the Focus groups need to exist in the main landing page.. | 14:04 |
| duanedesign | yeah I was a bit curious aout that recently when the Beginners Team was reevaluating its Focus Groups. I initially started to put Bug Fixing and Bug Triage in the same 'group' | 14:05 |
| vish | duanedesign: yea, we are starting this new team for papercuts for bug fixers, so was trying to make sure there is no overlap | 14:06 |
| duanedesign | that will be great | 14:06 |
| duanedesign | vish: thank you for the input on the BT wiki. I agree with you, there is some stuff on that landing page that does not need to be there | 14:07 |
| vish | duanedesign: np.. | 14:07 |
| * vish really hating the new wiki 'theme' , fonts are so damn small!!! | 14:08 | |
| vish | and the headers are huge | 14:08 |
| vish | seems more than double the size or maybe nearly triple.. | 14:08 |
| duanedesign | vish: On my laptop I can Ctrl + once and everything still fits on screen and is a little easier to read | 14:11 |
| vish | duanedesign: i'v *never* had to zoom into a page.. but yea that makes it a little better.. thanks | 14:13 |
| duanedesign | vish: when I was looking at Bug Fixing the only thing I really found was this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix | 14:13 |
| vish | yea, that wiki is good | 14:13 |
| vish | duanedesign: i blame jcastro ! he only made sure people adopted packages and triaged bugs, dint care about fixing bugs ;p | 14:14 |
| vish | ah ha! next week bitsize bounties!!! | 14:20 |
| duanedesign | vish: that will be nice. | 15:08 |
| jcastro | vish: I am an enabler! | 15:17 |
| vish | ;) | 15:25 |
| vish | duanedesign: well, bitesize bounties is what i /think/ jcastro is planning for next week.. | 15:25 |
| jcastro | not bounties per se | 15:26 |
| vish | yea, no rewards per se but you can just call them that ;) | 15:26 |
| jcastro | heh | 15:26 |
| vish | jcastro: working on Unity is the bounty! | 15:27 |
| jcastro | heh | 15:27 |
| vish | ehe | 15:27 |
| vish | duanedesign: how good is response in the beginners team bug triage ? | 15:29 |
| vish | like how many have 'graduated' to Bug-Control? | 15:29 |
| vish | there is bug squad mentoring as well and seems we are duplicating efforts now.. | 15:30 |
| duanedesign | vish: In the past becoming a member of Bug Control was encouraged and not required. I think that is one thing we were looking at. I have an action item to work from our discussions at UDS to work with Pedro on our mentoring program. | 15:49 |
| vish | cool.. | 15:53 |
| nisshh | jcastro, hey, any idea when unity-compiz (or whatever the package is called) will make it into the official repos for natty? | 16:16 |
| nisshh | (i know its in a PPA) | 16:16 |
| vish | nisshh: how well did the PPA work for you? [looks like you cant wait to get hold of it officially ;) ] | 16:18 |
| nisshh | vish, i dunno, im not brave enough to run natty dailies :) | 16:25 |
| nisshh | urh | 16:25 |
| nisshh | daily's :) | 16:25 |
| nisshh | vish, i dont normally upgrade till around alpha 2/3/beta | 16:26 |
| nisshh | vish, im mainly interested because i like Unity but the mutter/clutter version was slow | 16:27 |
| vish | nisshh: jump first and then see how it works out, you never know until you've tried it.. ;) | 16:27 |
| duanedesign | there are still a couple small issues. The dash is not working so well so you can only launch apps from the launcher | 16:27 |
| vish | nisshh: i'v rarely seen major problems with dev releases.. | 16:27 |
| nisshh | vish, yeah, i had problems with maverick alpha 2 not working, so that put me off the really early stuff | 16:27 |
| nisshh | vish, you reckon i should upgrade to natty daily? | 16:28 |
| nisshh | duanedesign, this is the unity alpha in the PPA your talking about? | 16:28 |
| vish | nisshh: you are missing the good stuff mmaaan! <blows puff of smoke> | 16:28 |
| nisshh | lol | 16:29 |
| nisshh | ok | 16:29 |
| nisshh | maybe i will :) | 16:29 |
| vish | nisshh: what i do is usually have partitions and install the +1 release on another partition | 16:29 |
| nisshh | ah ok | 16:29 |
| nisshh | i usually chuck it in a VM first | 16:29 |
| vish | nisshh: while the stable is on another partition with the same home | 16:29 |
| nisshh | yeah | 16:29 |
| vish | /home | 16:29 |
| nisshh | too much mucking around :) | 16:30 |
| nisshh | vish, link to the daily builds of natty? | 16:33 |
| nisshh | (google cant find it) | 16:33 |
| vish | nisshh: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 16:35 |
| nisshh | thanks vish :) | 16:35 |
| vish | yw.. | 16:35 |
| nisshh | oh nice | 16:36 |
| nisshh | an oversize cd image | 16:36 |
| nisshh | looks like ill have to find a DVD :) | 16:36 |
| vish | nisshh: use a usb live | 16:37 |
| nisshh | vish, old computer here, has an option in the BIOS for usb boot, doesnt work though :) | 16:37 |
| nisshh | i tried with maverick | 16:37 |
| vish | i have one like that, gah that is irritating!! | 16:38 |
| nisshh | yeah | 16:38 |
| nisshh | makes me want a new computer so badly :) | 16:38 |
| nisshh | vish, is unity default in natty yet? | 16:39 |
| vish | nisshh: havent booted to natty in a while, so not sure.. | 16:40 |
| nisshh | ah ok | 16:40 |
| nisshh | found a DVD! | 16:48 |
| nisshh | and its blank! | 16:48 |
| AlanBell | vish: here is my take on the wiki theme http://libertus.co.uk:8080/FrontPage | 17:02 |
| AlanBell | that is just running on my laptop at home | 17:03 |
| vish | AlanBell: neat! *much* better.. | 17:04 |
| AlanBell | fluid width, font sizes readable, contrast improved, headers distinguishable but not huge | 17:05 |
| AlanBell | but not following the design guidelines strictly enough | 17:05 |
| vish | a lot of other things seem odd with the wiki, no italics | 17:06 |
| AlanBell | file bugs | 17:06 |
| vish | yea.. | 17:06 |
| vish | cant seem to be able to do double indentations.. | 17:06 |
| vish | weird.. | 17:06 |
| AlanBell | the theme was a lot worse before, they did accept one or two fixes I did | 17:08 |
| AlanBell | italics is indeed missing, file a bug and I will do a merge proposal for that one | 17:09 |
| nisshh | vish, bah! it didnt work :) | 17:18 |
| nisshh | wait, i meant :( | 17:18 |
| nisshh | the GUI installer hasnt worked for me since 9.10 | 17:18 |
| nisshh | i thought, maybe, just maybe, but no, still doesnt | 17:19 |
| nisshh | grrr | 17:19 |
| nisshh | </rant> | 17:19 |
| vish | AlanBell: merge away.. filed Bug #674936 | 17:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 674936 in ubuntu-website "Italics not possible on wiki (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674936 | 17:21 |
| duanedesign | sorry nisshh, yes I was talking about the Unity-compiz alpha | 17:22 |
| nisshh | duanedesign, yeah | 17:22 |
| vish | nisshh: oh the installer itself dint work? weird :s | 17:22 |
| vish | nisshh: you are trying on a VM or ..? | 17:22 |
| nisshh | vish, i booted it from DVD | 17:23 |
| nisshh | vish, it gets to the loading screen, finishes loading, displays the wallpaper for about 15 seconds, then appears to start booting, but stops with no cpu or cdrom activity | 17:24 |
| vish | nisshh: hmm, there was a problem with the installer not working because of low memory.. how much memory does the sys have? | 17:24 |
| nisshh | 1GB | 17:24 |
| nisshh | of RAM | 17:24 |
| nisshh | should be enough | 17:24 |
| vish | yeah.. | 17:25 |
| nisshh | vish, 1GB not enough? | 17:25 |
| vish | nisshh: should be enough | 17:25 |
| nisshh | yeah | 17:25 |
| nisshh | im trying it in a vm now | 17:25 |
| nisshh | vish, when installing maverick i had to resort to the alternate cd to get it installed | 17:26 |
| nisshh | vish, just curiously, i tried update-manager -d, it says there is 11.04 available, i didnt know it was possible to upgrade yet | 17:41 |
| vish | nisshh: yea, that update available once the +1 repo is open | 17:42 |
| nisshh | vish, oh, so the +1 repo isnt open yet? | 17:43 |
| vish | nisshh: i wonder if today is inverse day, and everything i say somehow means the other way.. :D | 17:43 |
| vish | nisshh: nah, i meant its available as soon as the repo is open, hence available.. | 17:44 |
| nisshh | ah | 17:44 |
| nisshh | so it IS available | 17:44 |
| nisshh | vish, i just didnt know if it was simply there, or if it worked or not | 17:45 |
| vish | nisshh: yup.., updating using that command should get you to natty | 17:45 |
| nisshh | cool | 17:46 |
| nisshh | seems like thats my only option unless i wait for the alternate cd | 17:46 |
| nisshh | vish, i just realised, the compiz port of unity will require compiz to be turned on all the time wont it? | 17:52 |
| vish | nisshh: yup | 17:52 |
| nisshh | hmmm | 17:52 |
| nisshh | this thing runs with compiz on, but its slow | 17:53 |
| nisshh | slower | 17:53 |
| jcastro | nisshh: next week | 20:05 |
| jcastro | after they are not-so-broken in the PPA | 20:06 |
| nisshh | jcastro, cool, thanks :) | 20:09 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
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