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micahgif I'm preparing the debdiff for an SRU, can I just do this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/531484/01:50
geserlp bug number missing01:51
micahggeser: ah, good point01:51
micahgI haven't actually filed the bug yet...01:51
micahggeser: but just giving attribution like that is fine?01:52
geseryes01:52
micahgok01:52
gesermicahg: while you are here: can I get your opinion on http://www.bienia.de/tmp/natty.html ? (FTBFS with packagesets)01:57
micahggeser: that looks very cool01:59
micahgit even lets you know if a package in your packageset is in another02:00
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micahghi fabrice_sp, I was going to sponsor bug 671358, but I seem to have an issue getting the zip file from upstream, I see you sponsored it in the past, are there any tricks?06:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 671358 in mame (Ubuntu) "[upgrade] New upstream release 0.140" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67135806:51
fabrice_spHi micahg06:59
fabrice_splet me check06:59
fabrice_spIIRC, there is a get-orig-source target in the rules files07:01
* micahg checks, thanks07:01
fabrice_spI think that cesare should have upload access for mame: he made all the updates, and knows well when and what to update :-)07:02
fabrice_sp(re. the u releases)07:03
fabrice_spperhaps the watch file should be updated to avoid this versions?07:03
* micahg hasn't checked the watch file yet, just checked the websire07:03
micahg*website07:03
micahgit only looks for s versions, so I think it's good07:04
micahgwow, ok, now I see how this works, I guess I should have checked the Debian dir first07:05
fabrice_sp:-)07:05
micahgfabrice_sp: if the get-orig-source rule is broke, I should have that fixed by him, right?07:10
fabrice_spor you can fix it yourself. As Cesare is very responsive, you can ask him to fix it07:11
micahgok, I asked him, I'll see if I can grab something else to sponsor07:15
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euroneethi hi07:35
micahgfabrice_sp: I'm worried about being too critical on a sponsoring request, can you review my comment?07:43
fabrice_spmicahg, sure! any link?07:43
micahgfabrice_sp: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/531602/ for bug 67306607:43
ebrodermicahg: It looks fine to me07:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 673066 in librest (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to 0.7.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67306607:43
ebroderOh, never mind07:43
micahgebroder: yeah, I took care of that other one :)07:44
fabrice_spmicahg, not sure about the bzr merge one. The other ones mekae sense07:45
ebroderYeah, I was just trying to figure out what I think about that07:45
fabrice_spmicahg, I usually give feedback to new packaging by files. For example: debian/changelog: 1) please collapse all non uploaded ....07:46
ebroderI understand what you're saying, although I might say something like, "can you either propose a bzr merge or attach a debdiff of something, since those are the preferred form for patches [maybe add a link to something relevant here]"07:46
micahgfabrice_sp: well, he has it in a junk branch right now based on just the Debian dir, wouldn't it make sense to base it of the current packaging07:46
ebroderThe junk branch bothered me when I looked at that, too07:47
fabrice_spmicahg, you're right07:47
fabrice_spI usually request a debdiff myself07:47
micahgI don't mind a bzr merge as long as there's a current branch for it07:48
micahgfabrice_sp: updated: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/531604/07:49
fabrice_spmicahg, sounds good to mee07:50
ebroderSame for me07:51
micahgdone, should I unsubscribe sponsors while waiting?07:51
ebroderI think that's fine, with another comment to re-subscribe sponsors when your concerns have been addressed07:52
micahgoops, one of the comments should have been under anotehr section (build-dep should be under changelog), I'll add a comment07:53
fabrice_spI usually unsubscribe sponsors, asking to re-subscribe them when fixed07:53
micahgthanks guys07:55
fabrice_spthank you for working on the sponsorship queue :-)07:55
ebroderwhat fabrice said07:56
* micahg was hoping to sponsor something this week, will keep an eye out tomorrow07:56
* fabrice_sp still remembers when the universe sponsor list was more than 100 requests long07:57
micahgmaybe Cesare will get back to me with the mame update07:58
* micahg is thinking of pushing that into Debian if the pkg-multimedia team will take it07:58
micahgBut I need to do a little cleanup work for them before I ask for sponsorship of a new package07:58
fabrice_spmame is not really a multimedia app. I'd classify it under games07:59
micahgoh really, hmmm07:59
micahgoh right, that's the section it's in08:00
* micahg must have been thinking of something else08:00
micahgah, there's already a hijacked ITP for it, debian 42490508:02
ubottuDebian bug 424905 in wnpp "ITP: sdlmame -- A port of the popular MAME" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/42490508:02
* micahg forwards to Cesare08:02
micahgfabrice_sp: ebroder: have you guys seen the FTBFS page this evening?  geser updated it to include packagesets08:06
micahgs/evening/morning08:06
fabrice_spyep: I'm wondering why eclipse is under mozilla packageset08:06
micahgfabrice_sp: build-depends on xulrunner08:07
fabrice_spoh, ok08:07
fabrice_spthen why the PS? is not marked?08:07
micahgfabrice_sp: what do you mean?08:08
fabrice_spthe PS? column08:08
fabrice_spit's arked for all main packages, but in the mozilla package set, non is marked08:08
micahgfabrice_sp: where?  it's marked in teh universe list08:08
fabrice_spnot in the mozilla list08:08
ebroderTooltip says "belongs also to a (different) packageset?"08:08
fabrice_spohh08:08
micahgright08:09
ebrodertooltip on the checkbox is what PS that is08:09
* fabrice_sp is not used to tooltips in web app :-) 08:09
ebroderAlthough...picking one at random, I'm kind of fascinated that gimp is in ubuntu-server08:09
fabrice_spyeah: seems strange08:11
fabrice_spso the PS? column in the general view means "is within a package set" and in the other views, it means "within another PS"08:12
micahgyes08:12
fabrice_spgot it08:12
micahgthat way MOTUs can focus on the non-packageset parts of universe first08:13
micahgand packageset uploaders can easily see what they need to take care of08:14
fabrice_spgood idea, yes08:14
geserany ideas how to make the meaning of the "PS?" column more clear?09:22
hyperairwhat PS? column?09:27
hyperairoh whoops ignore me09:27
fabrice_spgeser, I think the meaning is clear in the 'general' list. What bugged me is that the meaning in the packageset list is different, but the label is the same10:07
fabrice_spand the tooltip is also the same10:09
micahgI had a double take originally also, but once you think about it it makes sense10:11
gesercurrently both tables use the same template (but it can be changed). Any suggestions for the column label and tooltip for the packageset table to make it more clear from the beginning?10:14
fabrice_spit will be hard to find a different short label. For the tooltip, in the general table, I think "Belongs to a packageset" would do the trick10:28
fabrice_spand for the packageset table, perhaps "Also belongs to another packageset"10:28
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ari-tczewcjwatson: my compassion. there are a lot of merges for you in main :(19:01
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