| Cheri703 | someone suggest a movie for me to watch | 00:40 |
|---|---|---|
| TheErk | Survival of the Dead | 00:42 |
| * Cheri703 is all zombied out | 00:42 | |
| Unit193 | Ironman 2? | 00:43 |
| Cheri703 | that was pretty good, saw it in the dollar theater | 00:43 |
| Unit193 | Godzilla? | 00:45 |
| Cheri703 | the one with matthew broderick? | 00:46 |
| Unit193 | Yes | 00:46 |
| Cheri703 | :| meh | 00:46 |
| * Cheri703 is not trying to be rude, has just gone through several lists already and is bored | 00:47 | |
| Unit193 | It's fine! uhhh John Wayne? | 00:48 |
| Cheri703 | hmm...I don't think I'm in the mood for a good guy movie...if that makes sense...the "here I come to save the day!" type of movie | 00:49 |
| Unit193 | Have you seen the new "Red: Werewolf Hunter"? | 00:50 |
| Unit193 | I have not | 00:51 |
| Cheri703 | hmm...no | 00:51 |
| Unit193 | 1:27 long... | 00:54 |
| * Cheri703 's preferred media acquisition site is giving an "overloaded, try again in a few minutes" message | 00:55 | |
| canthus13 | Pirate bay? | 00:56 |
| Cheri703 | kickasstorrents.com maaaaaay be on the list | 00:57 |
| Cheri703 | but of course not for illegal things, only for acquiring legal things... | 00:57 |
| Cheri703 | >.> | 00:57 |
| Cheri703 | <.< | 00:58 |
| canthus13 | Of course. :P | 00:58 |
| canthus13 | speaking of media acquisition... I really need to learn how to use rsync to sync my laptop to my media server. | 00:58 |
| Cheri703 | it's kind of funny, I just noticed tonight that it has a "latest searches" thing down the side...there are some...unique searches that come up | 00:59 |
| Cheri703 | hmm...I vaguely recall hearing about rsync... | 00:59 |
| canthus13 | It syncs 2 folders on different machines. | 00:59 |
| Cheri703 | ah, nice | 00:59 |
| Cheri703 | so...like ubuntu one, but working, eh? | 00:59 |
| canthus13 | Sort of. It'll look at my music folder on my laptop, and copy anything different to my media server. | 01:00 |
| canthus13 | Basically, it'll take the folder on the media server and make it match the one on my laptop. | 01:01 |
| canthus13 | At least, that's what I wanna use it to do. I just need to actually learn how to do it. :) | 01:01 |
| Cheri703 | that'd be handy | 01:02 |
| Cheri703 | I just keep everything on the desktop/media server/various other functions and pull as needed | 01:02 |
| Cheri703 | there's a CRAPLOAD of media on it... | 01:02 |
| canthus13 | Everyone in the house has access to the music collection, but I take my laptop on trips, use it to broadcast music via FM transmitter to the car stereo. | 01:03 |
| Cheri703 | ah, gotcha | 01:03 |
| Cheri703 | do you have an android phone? | 01:03 |
| canthus13 | nope | 01:03 |
| Cheri703 | k, nvm | 01:04 |
| Cheri703 | doesn't your battery die in the car? or do you have an inverter? | 01:05 |
| Cheri703 | someone in ubuntu-beginners just recommended rsync as a good backup program | 01:06 |
| Unit193 | Going to try Red? | 01:14 |
| Cheri703 | yeah | 01:15 |
| Unit193 | Tell me if it's good? | 01:15 |
| Cheri703 | will do | 01:15 |
| Cheri703 | :) | 01:15 |
| canthus13 | Oh. yeah. I use an inverter. | 01:18 |
| * canthus13 has a 150 watt, 3 plug inverter for laptops and cell chargers. | 01:18 | |
| Cheri703 | oooo, nice | 01:18 |
| * Cheri703 is jealous | 01:19 | |
| canthus13 | it was about 30 bucks at Love's truck stop. | 01:19 |
| Cheri703 | though I just got a 1 watt for my cell, it's doing a MUCH better job. I think the previous one was actually making it LOSE battery...it was horrible | 01:19 |
| Cheri703 | I just got a new bluetooth headset that is WONDERFUL. I'm on the road a LOT | 01:19 |
| canthus13 | Wife had a nice little pendant-style bluetooth headset... Lost it, tho. :( | 01:20 |
| Cheri703 | :( | 01:21 |
| Cheri703 | mine is a big honkin' trucker headset...it's awesome, has really good noise canceling and gets loud enough to hear over the road noise in my truck | 01:21 |
| canthus13 | Nice... | 01:21 |
| Cheri703 | I really like it, and I got it refurb on amazon for $41 with shipping | 01:22 |
| Cheri703 | and I get like a week worth of battery out of it | 01:22 |
| Cheri703 | AND you can use it while it's plugged in, which is awesome | 01:22 |
| * Cheri703 needs another movie to watch | 04:53 | |
| canthus13 | The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. | 04:55 |
| Cheri703 | I've vaguely heard of that | 04:56 |
| canthus13 | It's in swedish, but if you can deal with subs, it's a great movie. | 04:56 |
| canthus13 | All three movies in the trilogy are good, actually. | 04:56 |
| Cheri703 | yeah, maybe not tonight, but I generally watch tv with captioning on when possible | 04:56 |
| Cheri703 | force of habit, grew up with a brother with severe hearing loss | 04:56 |
| Cheri703 | I'll watch it soon though :) just tonight foreign + subtitles not so great | 04:57 |
| canthus13 | They're supposed to be remaking them in English.. Dunno if I'll like it after seeing the originals, tho. | 04:57 |
| Cheri703 | yeah, I hate that | 04:57 |
| canthus13 | They're already the movie versions of a book trilogy... | 04:57 |
| canthus13 | If you like anime, Ghost In the Shell is good. | 04:58 |
| canthus13 | Goonies... A Clockwork Orange.... Pump Up the Volume.... | 04:59 |
| canthus13 | Blood and Chocolate... Boondock Saints.... | 05:00 |
| canthus13 | Cast A Deadly Spell.... | 05:01 |
| Cheri703 | hmmm | 05:03 |
| canthus13 | Cast a Deadly Spell may be a bit hard to find. | 05:03 |
| * canthus13 has only managed to find a very poor quality VHS rip of it. :( | 05:04 | |
| Cheri703 | :( | 05:04 |
| canthus13 | It's still a fun movie, though... Sort of a Cthulu meets classic detective novel mashup. | 05:04 |
| Cheri703 | hmm...sounds...odd | 05:05 |
| canthus13 | It's funny. | 05:05 |
| canthus13 | Blood and Chocolate is great for a low budget film... | 05:06 |
| Cheri703 | I'll check them out :) in a minute, going to make some cinnamon swirl toast to munch on | 05:07 |
| dmcglone | Hi everyone | 19:09 |
| Unit193 | Hey dmcglone | 19:09 |
| dmcglone | anybody here use dual monitors? | 19:10 |
| Unit193 | anybody here? | 19:10 |
| dmcglone | I got me an extra flat screen monitor and was wondering if I plugged it up what kind of benefit it would serve me | 19:11 |
| Cheri703 | on occasion | 19:11 |
| dmcglone | also, I went to the buckeyes game yesterday. It was awesome | 19:11 |
| Cheri703 | also, if it is in need of a new home, I'd be happy to adopt it ;) | 19:12 |
| dmcglone | LOL Cheri703 | 19:12 |
| dmcglone | I'm thinking about hooking it up and use one screen for development and one for desktop stuff | 19:13 |
| Cheri703 | that works | 19:13 |
| dmcglone | I'm uploading the pre game show to my facebook | 19:16 |
| _bbb | mount it vertically and read comics | 19:22 |
| dmcglone | all that just to read comics? | 19:26 |
| dmcglone | lol | 19:26 |
| dmcglone | well the pre game show is too large for facebook | 19:28 |
| Cheri703 | I'm looking into a swivel wall mount, so I can put mine vertical when needed | 19:28 |
| _bbb | interesting | 19:29 |
| Cheri703 | amazon has some for reasonable prices | 19:31 |
| dmcglone | I'm kinda bummed shotwell doesn't do videos | 19:31 |
| dmcglone | neither does F-Spot | 19:31 |
| Cheri703 | also, dmcglone (or anyone else using 2 monitors) check out this thread: http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1052784 | 19:32 |
| dmcglone | I have to manually remove the SD card and put it in my computer to get the videos. defeats the purpose of having a cradle for the camera | 19:32 |
| Cheri703 | there's a script called chprimon | 19:32 |
| Cheri703 | it changes primary monitor (moves taskbars and such over) | 19:32 |
| Cheri703 | very handy and quick | 19:32 |
| dmcglone | when having dual monitors do you have to have 1 graphics card? | 19:35 |
| dmcglone | I have 2 separate graphics cards | 19:35 |
| dmcglone | one if for DMI and one is only VGA | 19:35 |
| Cheri703 | uhm, I dunno, I only do it from my netbook | 19:36 |
| Cheri703 | not true | 19:36 |
| Cheri703 | I have a video card in my desktop with multiple outputs and I can put 2 monitors on that | 19:36 |
| * Cheri703 forgot | 19:36 | |
| dmcglone | I see. mine are seperate | 19:36 |
| Cheri703 | I think just play with it til you get it to work... | 19:36 |
| Cheri703 | that's generally my method | 19:37 |
| dmcglone | paultag: you here? | 22:30 |
| dmcglone | got a question for ya | 22:30 |
| dmcglone | what is everyone using for their digital photo import program? | 22:34 |
| dmcglone | I like shotwell but it will not import videos yet, neither does f-spot | 22:34 |
| paultag | dmcglone, sir yessir | 22:52 |
| paultag | dmcglone, what can I do for you? | 22:52 |
| dmcglone | Was wondering if it was possible to have 2 versions of a config file. say for instance, shotwell and digikam use libgphoto2, but shotwell will not import movies, but digikam will, so I switched to digikam and for some odd reason I had to make a hacked version of libgphoto2 for digikam to reconize my camera. Unfortunately this hack renders shotwell and f-spot useless. | 22:59 |
| dmcglone | shotwell is supposed to get support for movies in December | 23:01 |
| paultag | hummmm | 23:03 |
| dmcglone | I'm asking you, because you seem to be a Ubuntu god ;-) | 23:03 |
| paultag | dmcglone, yes, you can, but it can get nasty. What did you have to do to make the new libgphoto? | 23:03 |
| paultag | dmcglone, did you recompile and install it? | 23:04 |
| dmcglone | I had to rewrite the USB rule | 23:04 |
| paultag | dmcglone, the HAL stuff? | 23:04 |
| dmcglone | it was basically a 1 liner, but I'm afraid I'll forget how I did it in the future and get stuck between a rock and a hard place | 23:05 |
| dmcglone | let me show ya | 23:05 |
| paultag | roger doger | 23:05 |
| paultag | dmcglone, either you can hack up some new files and hotswap it, or if you had to re-compile the libgphoto, you can use an ldpreload hack | 23:05 |
| paultag | dmcglone, and then swap out the binary with a shell script that hits the binary with an LDPRELOAD on the .real | 23:06 |
| paultag | I did that once for Firefox because it would call sync() over and fucking over | 23:06 |
| dmcglone | I changed this line: SUBSYSTEM!="usb", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" to this: | 23:06 |
| dmcglone | SUBSYSTEM!="usb_device*", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" | 23:06 |
| paultag | dmcglone, in what file, if I might ask | 23:06 |
| dmcglone | and I added this: SYSFS{idVendor}=="040a", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0581", MODE="0660", GROUP="plugdev" | 23:07 |
| paultag | that looks like a rules | 23:07 |
| paultag | in /etc/rules.d or something? | 23:07 |
| paultag | in udev * | 23:07 |
| dmcglone | 40-libgphoto2-2.rules | 23:07 |
| paultag | /etc/udev/rules.d | 23:07 |
| paultag | ahha | 23:07 |
| dmcglone | yes | 23:07 |
| paultag | dmcglone, can you paste /etc/udev/rules.d/40-libgphoto2-2.rules for me? | 23:08 |
| paultag | dmcglone, just the whole file so I'm not screwing you up here :) | 23:08 |
| dmcglone | paste bin? or here? it's pretty big file | 23:08 |
| paultag | dmcglone, pastebin, never paste more then 2 lines on IRC ( good instinct :) ) | 23:08 |
| dmcglone | ok hang tight | 23:09 |
| paultag | roger doger | 23:09 |
| dmcglone | check this out: http://pastebin.com/NqQBtBwR | 23:11 |
| paultag | hummmmm | 23:11 |
| dmcglone | I was thinking that maybe I could force digikam or shotwell to use a different file, but I may have to alter the source of the programs instead | 23:13 |
| paultag | dmcglone, and what *exactly* do you want it to do? Sorry to be overly verbose, but I'd hate to screw up something that still works because I'm not clear :) | 23:13 |
| paultag | dmcglone, You've not had to edit source so far :) | 23:13 |
| paultag | those are conf files, and those are awesome to tweet | 23:14 |
| paultag | tweek * | 23:14 |
| paultag | damn my muscle memory! | 23:14 |
| dmcglone | I've only changed the gphoto2-2.rules file | 23:14 |
| paultag | dmcglone, yessir | 23:14 |
| dmcglone | I was hoping I could keep an original and make shotwell use that one and then make digikam use a different one with my hacks. I'm wondering if it would be possible | 23:15 |
| paultag | dmcglone, for the same usb id? | 23:15 |
| paultag | dmcglone, I just don't totally get what you're trying to do just yet, I'm a bit slow today, sorry! :) | 23:16 |
| dmcglone | it'll probably have to be | 23:16 |
| dmcglone | I don't think it's you, I think I'm not explaining clearly | 23:17 |
| dmcglone | let me try this | 23:17 |
| paultag | dmcglone, it's OK, let's just get it solved :) | 23:17 |
| dmcglone | Ok with my hacks in place, shotwell will not detect my camera | 23:18 |
| dmcglone | but digikam will | 23:18 |
| paultag | Ahh, ahha! | 23:18 |
| dmcglone | I was wondering if I could force one or the other to use a seperate udev file | 23:19 |
| paultag | Ahha :) | 23:19 |
| dmcglone | that way, shotwell will read 1 and digikam will read the other and both will work correctly | 23:19 |
| paultag | dmcglone, OK, well here's what's going to be tough with that. When you plug something in, udev ( a daemon ) will read it's rules files and check to see if that USB device is "claimed" by anything. Most of the time a rules file will tell udev what module to use for the USB device. In the old rules file, the device was using a different module then it's using now | 23:20 |
| paultag | dmcglone, the issue here is that because it's HAL using a module, it's not per-application | 23:20 |
| dmcglone | Ah I see | 23:20 |
| dmcglone | makes a lot of sense | 23:21 |
| paultag | dmcglone, what you can do is file a bug report about it to make sure the application will look up ( and implement ) the module you're using now :) | 23:21 |
| dmcglone | ok hang on got a question | 23:22 |
| paultag | yessir | 23:22 |
| dmcglone | this isn't the module is it? SUBSYSTEM!="usb_device*", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" | 23:23 |
| paultag | dmcglone, no, if you look at the bottom of that file, there's a line that labels the bottom as "libgphoto2_rules_end" | 23:23 |
| paultag | dmcglone, so when it sees a usb_device*, it skips loading fancy modules | 23:23 |
| dmcglone | right | 23:23 |
| paultag | dmcglone, so it will treat it as a mass-storage device | 23:24 |
| paultag | if I understand what's going on, that is | 23:24 |
| dmcglone | thats sounds like how it's behaving, so you've got to be spot on with that | 23:24 |
| paultag | good :) | 23:24 |
| dmcglone | Ok so, why would shotwell and digikam behave this way, I mean if f-spot and shotwell work correctly with the original, why doesn't digikam? | 23:26 |
| dmcglone | weird behavior isn't it? | 23:26 |
| paultag | it sure is | 23:27 |
| paultag | dmcglone, but if libgphoto acts as a buffer between it ( providing a facade over the MS-Mode ), then you might see this ( if digikam uses libgphoto and not fallback implementations ) | 23:28 |
| dmcglone | What baffles me is since HAL is using a module, every app should work with these udev rules | 23:28 |
| paultag | dmcglone, for instance if you do a libgphoto call for device 0's photos, it will do that regardless of the underlying device, whereas something else would search for it | 23:29 |
| paultag | dmcglone, it depends on implementation | 23:29 |
| paultag | dmcglone, regardless this is a shittyism, and should be reported :) | 23:29 |
| dmcglone | Ok | 23:29 |
| paultag | dmcglone, you're not doing anything wrong, this is the software author's fault | 23:30 |
| paultag | dmcglone, in fact, there's little you can do to fix it, if it's as inflexible as it looks | 23:30 |
| dmcglone | I'm going to file a bug report after I eat dinner. I guess since shotwell can't import my video files, I'll just stick with my hacked version of libgphoto until shotwell supports it in dec. | 23:31 |
| paultag | dmcglone, awesome. Send me the bug number, I'll triage it for you. | 23:31 |
| paultag | dmcglone, sorry to hear it sucks so much :( | 23:31 |
| dmcglone | It's ok, I Like shotwell very well, just can't import my videos | 23:32 |
| paultag | aye | 23:32 |
| dmcglone | and I went to the OSU game yesterday and got a bunch of video and couldn't import them | 23:32 |
| paultag | oh no :( | 23:32 |
| dmcglone | I managed to import them with digikam though | 23:32 |
| paultag | great to hear | 23:33 |
| dmcglone | but not after I hacked it all up | 23:33 |
| paultag | I was going suggest that you go into the DCIM folder | 23:33 |
| paultag | but if it's working, all is well | 23:33 |
| dmcglone | I tried that, and nautilus kept rendering my desktop unusable | 23:34 |
| dmcglone | froze it like the arctic tundra | 23:34 |
| dmcglone | lol | 23:34 |
| dmcglone | I'll be back. Dinner time :-/ | 23:35 |
| paultag | kk :) | 23:38 |
| dmcglone | OK I'm back, gonna go file that bug now | 23:49 |
| dmcglone | hey paul should I report the bug as a libgphoto2 bug? | 23:56 |
| dmcglone | or a udev bug? | 23:56 |
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