[00:40] someone suggest a movie for me to watch [00:42] Survival of the Dead [00:42] * Cheri703 is all zombied out [00:43] Ironman 2? [00:43] that was pretty good, saw it in the dollar theater [00:45] Godzilla? [00:46] the one with matthew broderick? [00:46] Yes [00:46] :| meh [00:47] * Cheri703 is not trying to be rude, has just gone through several lists already and is bored [00:48] It's fine! uhhh John Wayne? [00:49] hmm...I don't think I'm in the mood for a good guy movie...if that makes sense...the "here I come to save the day!" type of movie [00:50] Have you seen the new "Red: Werewolf Hunter"? [00:51] I have not [00:51] hmm...no [00:54] 1:27 long... [00:55] * Cheri703 's preferred media acquisition site is giving an "overloaded, try again in a few minutes" message [00:56] Pirate bay? [00:57] kickasstorrents.com maaaaaay be on the list [00:57] but of course not for illegal things, only for acquiring legal things... [00:57] >.> [00:58] <.< [00:58] Of course. :P [00:58] speaking of media acquisition... I really need to learn how to use rsync to sync my laptop to my media server. [00:59] it's kind of funny, I just noticed tonight that it has a "latest searches" thing down the side...there are some...unique searches that come up [00:59] hmm...I vaguely recall hearing about rsync... [00:59] It syncs 2 folders on different machines. [00:59] ah, nice [00:59] so...like ubuntu one, but working, eh? [01:00] Sort of. It'll look at my music folder on my laptop, and copy anything different to my media server. [01:01] Basically, it'll take the folder on the media server and make it match the one on my laptop. [01:01] At least, that's what I wanna use it to do. I just need to actually learn how to do it. :) [01:02] that'd be handy [01:02] I just keep everything on the desktop/media server/various other functions and pull as needed [01:02] there's a CRAPLOAD of media on it... [01:03] Everyone in the house has access to the music collection, but I take my laptop on trips, use it to broadcast music via FM transmitter to the car stereo. [01:03] ah, gotcha [01:03] do you have an android phone? [01:03] nope [01:04] k, nvm [01:05] doesn't your battery die in the car? or do you have an inverter? [01:06] someone in ubuntu-beginners just recommended rsync as a good backup program [01:14] Going to try Red? [01:15] yeah [01:15] Tell me if it's good? [01:15] will do [01:15] :) [01:18] Oh. yeah. I use an inverter. [01:18] * canthus13 has a 150 watt, 3 plug inverter for laptops and cell chargers. [01:18] oooo, nice [01:19] * Cheri703 is jealous [01:19] it was about 30 bucks at Love's truck stop. [01:19] though I just got a 1 watt for my cell, it's doing a MUCH better job. I think the previous one was actually making it LOSE battery...it was horrible [01:19] I just got a new bluetooth headset that is WONDERFUL. I'm on the road a LOT [01:20] Wife had a nice little pendant-style bluetooth headset... Lost it, tho. :( [01:21] :( [01:21] mine is a big honkin' trucker headset...it's awesome, has really good noise canceling and gets loud enough to hear over the road noise in my truck [01:21] Nice... [01:22] I really like it, and I got it refurb on amazon for $41 with shipping [01:22] and I get like a week worth of battery out of it [01:22] AND you can use it while it's plugged in, which is awesome [04:53] * Cheri703 needs another movie to watch [04:55] The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. [04:56] I've vaguely heard of that [04:56] It's in swedish, but if you can deal with subs, it's a great movie. [04:56] All three movies in the trilogy are good, actually. [04:56] yeah, maybe not tonight, but I generally watch tv with captioning on when possible [04:56] force of habit, grew up with a brother with severe hearing loss [04:57] I'll watch it soon though :) just tonight foreign + subtitles not so great [04:57] They're supposed to be remaking them in English.. Dunno if I'll like it after seeing the originals, tho. [04:57] yeah, I hate that [04:57] They're already the movie versions of a book trilogy... [04:58] If you like anime, Ghost In the Shell is good. [04:59] Goonies... A Clockwork Orange.... Pump Up the Volume.... [05:00] Blood and Chocolate... Boondock Saints.... [05:01] Cast A Deadly Spell.... [05:03] hmmm [05:03] Cast a Deadly Spell may be a bit hard to find. [05:04] * canthus13 has only managed to find a very poor quality VHS rip of it. :( [05:04] :( [05:04] It's still a fun movie, though... Sort of a Cthulu meets classic detective novel mashup. [05:05] hmm...sounds...odd [05:05] It's funny. [05:06] Blood and Chocolate is great for a low budget film... [05:07] I'll check them out :) in a minute, going to make some cinnamon swirl toast to munch on [19:09] Hi everyone [19:09] Hey dmcglone [19:10] anybody here use dual monitors? [19:10] anybody here? [19:11] I got me an extra flat screen monitor and was wondering if I plugged it up what kind of benefit it would serve me [19:11] on occasion [19:11] also, I went to the buckeyes game yesterday. It was awesome [19:12] also, if it is in need of a new home, I'd be happy to adopt it ;) [19:12] LOL Cheri703 [19:13] I'm thinking about hooking it up and use one screen for development and one for desktop stuff [19:13] that works [19:16] I'm uploading the pre game show to my facebook [19:22] <_bbb> mount it vertically and read comics [19:26] all that just to read comics? [19:26] lol [19:28] well the pre game show is too large for facebook [19:28] I'm looking into a swivel wall mount, so I can put mine vertical when needed [19:29] <_bbb> interesting [19:31] amazon has some for reasonable prices [19:31] I'm kinda bummed shotwell doesn't do videos [19:31] neither does F-Spot [19:32] also, dmcglone (or anyone else using 2 monitors) check out this thread: http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1052784 [19:32] I have to manually remove the SD card and put it in my computer to get the videos. defeats the purpose of having a cradle for the camera [19:32] there's a script called chprimon [19:32] it changes primary monitor (moves taskbars and such over) [19:32] very handy and quick [19:35] when having dual monitors do you have to have 1 graphics card? [19:35] I have 2 separate graphics cards [19:35] one if for DMI and one is only VGA [19:36] uhm, I dunno, I only do it from my netbook [19:36] not true [19:36] I have a video card in my desktop with multiple outputs and I can put 2 monitors on that [19:36] * Cheri703 forgot [19:36] I see. mine are seperate [19:36] I think just play with it til you get it to work... [19:37] that's generally my method [22:30] paultag: you here? [22:30] got a question for ya [22:34] what is everyone using for their digital photo import program? [22:34] I like shotwell but it will not import videos yet, neither does f-spot [22:52] dmcglone, sir yessir [22:52] dmcglone, what can I do for you? [22:59] Was wondering if it was possible to have 2 versions of a config file. say for instance, shotwell and digikam use libgphoto2, but shotwell will not import movies, but digikam will, so I switched to digikam and for some odd reason I had to make a hacked version of libgphoto2 for digikam to reconize my camera. Unfortunately this hack renders shotwell and f-spot useless. [23:01] shotwell is supposed to get support for movies in December [23:03] hummmm [23:03] I'm asking you, because you seem to be a Ubuntu god ;-) [23:03] dmcglone, yes, you can, but it can get nasty. What did you have to do to make the new libgphoto? [23:04] dmcglone, did you recompile and install it? [23:04] I had to rewrite the USB rule [23:04] dmcglone, the HAL stuff? [23:05] it was basically a 1 liner, but I'm afraid I'll forget how I did it in the future and get stuck between a rock and a hard place [23:05] let me show ya [23:05] roger doger [23:05] dmcglone, either you can hack up some new files and hotswap it, or if you had to re-compile the libgphoto, you can use an ldpreload hack [23:06] dmcglone, and then swap out the binary with a shell script that hits the binary with an LDPRELOAD on the .real [23:06] I did that once for Firefox because it would call sync() over and fucking over [23:06] I changed this line: SUBSYSTEM!="usb", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" to this: [23:06] SUBSYSTEM!="usb_device*", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" [23:06] dmcglone, in what file, if I might ask [23:07] and I added this: SYSFS{idVendor}=="040a", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0581", MODE="0660", GROUP="plugdev" [23:07] that looks like a rules [23:07] in /etc/rules.d or something? [23:07] in udev * [23:07] 40-libgphoto2-2.rules [23:07] /etc/udev/rules.d [23:07] ahha [23:07] yes [23:08] dmcglone, can you paste /etc/udev/rules.d/40-libgphoto2-2.rules for me? [23:08] dmcglone, just the whole file so I'm not screwing you up here :) [23:08] paste bin? or here? it's pretty big file [23:08] dmcglone, pastebin, never paste more then 2 lines on IRC ( good instinct :) ) [23:09] ok hang tight [23:09] roger doger [23:11] check this out: http://pastebin.com/NqQBtBwR [23:11] hummmmm [23:13] I was thinking that maybe I could force digikam or shotwell to use a different file, but I may have to alter the source of the programs instead [23:13] dmcglone, and what *exactly* do you want it to do? Sorry to be overly verbose, but I'd hate to screw up something that still works because I'm not clear :) [23:13] dmcglone, You've not had to edit source so far :) [23:14] those are conf files, and those are awesome to tweet [23:14] tweek * [23:14] damn my muscle memory! [23:14] I've only changed the gphoto2-2.rules file [23:14] dmcglone, yessir [23:15] I was hoping I could keep an original and make shotwell use that one and then make digikam use a different one with my hacks. I'm wondering if it would be possible [23:15] dmcglone, for the same usb id? [23:16] dmcglone, I just don't totally get what you're trying to do just yet, I'm a bit slow today, sorry! :) [23:16] it'll probably have to be [23:17] I don't think it's you, I think I'm not explaining clearly [23:17] let me try this [23:17] dmcglone, it's OK, let's just get it solved :) [23:18] Ok with my hacks in place, shotwell will not detect my camera [23:18] but digikam will [23:18] Ahh, ahha! [23:19] I was wondering if I could force one or the other to use a seperate udev file [23:19] Ahha :) [23:19] that way, shotwell will read 1 and digikam will read the other and both will work correctly [23:20] dmcglone, OK, well here's what's going to be tough with that. When you plug something in, udev ( a daemon ) will read it's rules files and check to see if that USB device is "claimed" by anything. Most of the time a rules file will tell udev what module to use for the USB device. In the old rules file, the device was using a different module then it's using now [23:20] dmcglone, the issue here is that because it's HAL using a module, it's not per-application [23:20] Ah I see [23:21] makes a lot of sense [23:21] dmcglone, what you can do is file a bug report about it to make sure the application will look up ( and implement ) the module you're using now :) [23:22] ok hang on got a question [23:22] yessir [23:23] this isn't the module is it? SUBSYSTEM!="usb_device*", GOTO="libgphoto2_rules_end" [23:23] dmcglone, no, if you look at the bottom of that file, there's a line that labels the bottom as "libgphoto2_rules_end" [23:23] dmcglone, so when it sees a usb_device*, it skips loading fancy modules [23:23] right [23:24] dmcglone, so it will treat it as a mass-storage device [23:24] if I understand what's going on, that is [23:24] thats sounds like how it's behaving, so you've got to be spot on with that [23:24] good :) [23:26] Ok so, why would shotwell and digikam behave this way, I mean if f-spot and shotwell work correctly with the original, why doesn't digikam? [23:26] weird behavior isn't it? [23:27] it sure is [23:28] dmcglone, but if libgphoto acts as a buffer between it ( providing a facade over the MS-Mode ), then you might see this ( if digikam uses libgphoto and not fallback implementations ) [23:28] What baffles me is since HAL is using a module, every app should work with these udev rules [23:29] dmcglone, for instance if you do a libgphoto call for device 0's photos, it will do that regardless of the underlying device, whereas something else would search for it [23:29] dmcglone, it depends on implementation [23:29] dmcglone, regardless this is a shittyism, and should be reported :) [23:29] Ok [23:30] dmcglone, you're not doing anything wrong, this is the software author's fault [23:30] dmcglone, in fact, there's little you can do to fix it, if it's as inflexible as it looks [23:31] I'm going to file a bug report after I eat dinner. I guess since shotwell can't import my video files, I'll just stick with my hacked version of libgphoto until shotwell supports it in dec. [23:31] dmcglone, awesome. Send me the bug number, I'll triage it for you. [23:31] dmcglone, sorry to hear it sucks so much :( [23:32] It's ok, I Like shotwell very well, just can't import my videos [23:32] aye [23:32] and I went to the OSU game yesterday and got a bunch of video and couldn't import them [23:32] oh no :( [23:32] I managed to import them with digikam though [23:33] great to hear [23:33] but not after I hacked it all up [23:33] I was going suggest that you go into the DCIM folder [23:33] but if it's working, all is well [23:34] I tried that, and nautilus kept rendering my desktop unusable [23:34] froze it like the arctic tundra [23:34] lol [23:35] I'll be back. Dinner time :-/ [23:38] kk :) [23:49] OK I'm back, gonna go file that bug now [23:56] hey paul should I report the bug as a libgphoto2 bug? [23:56] or a udev bug?