Drakeson | is mipmap screwed up in compiz "static application switcher" plugin? alt-tab crashes compiz in no time. | 03:05 |
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needhelp1 | is banshee going to be the default media player in 11.04? | 04:37 |
UndiFineD | that is the plan | 04:41 |
needhelp1 | is there any official stating explaining why? | 04:41 |
UndiFineD | yes it was discussed at UDS-N | 04:42 |
UndiFineD | I have 2010-10-29-20-15-packageselection-desktop-n-banshee.ogg | 04:43 |
needhelp1 | is there any discussion or group efforts to reverse this decision that come to mind ? | 04:44 |
UndiFineD | shall I dcc it to you ? | 04:44 |
needhelp1 | i dont dcc, sorry, is it on the net anywhere | 04:45 |
UndiFineD | I forgot where i downloaded it from | 04:45 |
UndiFineD | might be cdimage.ubuntu.com | 04:46 |
needhelp1 | is there any discussion or group efforts to reverse this decision that come to mind ? | 04:46 |
UndiFineD | gobby.ubuntu.com : packageselection-desktop-n-application-selection | 04:47 |
needhelp1 | gobby.ubuntu.com wont load | 04:50 |
UndiFineD | no you need gobby 0.5 for that | 04:51 |
UndiFineD | http://paste.ubuntu.com/532137/ | 04:52 |
needhelp1 | oh ok thanks | 04:52 |
needhelp1 | i'll apt-install gobby | 04:52 |
needhelp1 | im gona search the forums for any discussion on banshee in 11.04 | 04:52 |
UndiFineD | it is in the paste | 04:53 |
needhelp1 | yeah i read it | 04:53 |
needhelp1 | thanks | 04:53 |
UndiFineD | at the bottom are the people to contact | 04:53 |
needhelp1 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-application-selection | 04:55 |
needhelp1 | i dont see a link for conor to contact though | 04:55 |
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Ologn | Aha, other people are having compiz crash as well - bug #673830 | 07:57 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 673830 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz segfaults when running in a VMware VM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673830 | 07:57 |
Ologn | Well, I'll just stick with reliable old metacity... | 07:58 |
jakubo | hi, i have updated to natty and discovered a problem scanning for ssids on with p54pci | 08:04 |
jakubo | it does find only one network, and always the same, but its not constantly there | 08:05 |
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jakubo | anyone there? | 08:41 |
popey | jakubo: usually, yes | 08:44 |
jakubo | do you have a clue concerning my problem? | 08:44 |
jakubo | i cant connect to my ap any more please help | 09:31 |
yellabs | hi there | 09:36 |
yellabs | natty narwhal has problems with 82865G intel onboard video | 09:37 |
yellabs | maybe later it will be solved... | 09:37 |
yellabs | i cant run testrapport,, though | 09:37 |
yellabs | to bad | 09:38 |
yellabs | ah well thats life.. | 09:44 |
timmillwood | anyone had any issues installing the nightly build of 11.04? | 12:49 |
penguin42 | just has a machine doing updates, I'm not doing installs yet | 12:49 |
BUGabundo | its a mess currently | 12:49 |
BUGabundo | I've lost most of my applets , even if installed | 12:49 |
BUGabundo | compiz is a mess | 12:49 |
BUGabundo | nouveau won't even start X | 12:49 |
penguin42 | it's mostly OK for me (Intel graphics) - although the hibernate option has disappeared | 12:50 |
BUGabundo | can't drag app in the app tray | 12:50 |
BUGabundo | bah | 12:50 |
sagaci | good the release date isn't anytime soon :P | 12:50 |
timmillwood | I was trying the iso in virtualbox and couldnt even get it to boot | 12:50 |
Ian_Corne | gnome-open still ignores the setting of the prefered browser :p | 12:51 |
Ian_Corne | I had to remove compiz | 12:51 |
BUGabundo | Ian_Corne: aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 12:53 |
BUGabundo | so that's why all link images open in eog | 12:53 |
BUGabundo | compiz-extra got depreciated | 12:53 |
Ian_Corne | yes also | 12:53 |
Ian_Corne | I think they're messing with it | 12:53 |
timmillwood | unity in the nighty buld of 11.04 yet? | 12:56 |
BUGabundo | lunch | 12:57 |
BUGabundo | bbl | 12:57 |
BUGabundo | I don't see unity for my system, on GDM (or what ever its called now) | 12:57 |
coz_ | what is best way to upgrade maverick to natty at this point? | 13:00 |
IdleOne | coz_: I changed the sources.list to natty, don't know if that is the best way. | 13:04 |
cozziemoto | IdleOne, thankas | 13:10 |
cozziemoto | IdleOne, on maverick machine now | 13:10 |
cozziemoto | IdleOne, i tried that but it didnt work | 13:11 |
IdleOne | cozziemoto: probably best to wait for alpha1 to be released. | 13:14 |
cozziemoto | IdleOne, yeah understood :) I can wait...actually I wanted to test compiz/unity | 13:16 |
BUGabundo | cozziemoto: there used to be a PPA with it | 13:34 |
BUGabundo | so you could try it on maverick | 13:34 |
BUGabundo | cozziemoto: what didn't work when you changed sources? | 13:34 |
BUGabundo | sudo aptitude full-upgrade should have worked | 13:34 |
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mhall119 | update-manager -d will upgrade you to 11.04 | 13:42 |
BUGabundo | already ? cool | 13:44 |
wrst | mhall119: finally saw the little unity enable thing in the compiz settings manager | 13:49 |
mhall119 | wrst: there's a unity setting in ccsm? | 13:51 |
wrst | yes i couldn't get it to work mhall119 from logging into ubuntu netbook from gdm i just got a white screen, but from within gnome i can enable unity but it sorta piles it up on the existing gnome setup | 13:52 |
mhall119 | huh | 13:52 |
mhall119 | I'm still running in vbox, so I won't be able to run Unity anyway | 13:52 |
mhall119 | but good to know | 13:52 |
wrst | yeah it plastered unity on top of my existing gnome | 13:53 |
wrst | kinda weird :) | 13:53 |
wrst | but what little it was useable seems pretty neat | 13:53 |
mhall119 | it seemed nice on my netbook, just unusably slow and didn't fit well on a 7" screen | 13:55 |
wrst | on my ati card it has many problems | 13:57 |
wrst | so really unusable on it | 13:57 |
Ian_Corne | :D | 13:57 |
Ian_Corne | OS drivers wrst ? | 13:57 |
Ian_Corne | I dare not try it on my nouveau laptop.. | 13:58 |
wrst | yes Ian_Corne my card is "too old" for ati to support it so i have the open drivers that generally do work pretty well | 13:58 |
BUGabundo | nouvuea is broken | 13:58 |
BUGabundo | I can't even enable it | 13:58 |
Ian_Corne | I have to wait another month and nvidia should release a driver then that I can use | 14:00 |
wrst | i installed unity on my 10.10 desktop with nviida it works well with it but don't have the unity/compiz running on it | 14:01 |
patdk-wk | heh | 14:07 |
patdk-wk | "No required driver detected for unity." :( | 14:07 |
wrst | that stinks patdk-wk | 14:09 |
BUGabundo | FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU | 14:22 |
BUGabundo | ctrl+shift+t to open a new tab in gnome-terminal kills it :( | 14:22 |
Ian_Corne | kills what? | 14:22 |
Ian_Corne | it works for me | 14:22 |
BUGabundo | mine it _explodes_ | 14:23 |
Ian_Corne | your terminal? | 14:23 |
BUGabundo | yep | 14:24 |
Ian_Corne | try F1 | 14:25 |
Ian_Corne | :p | 14:25 |
patdk-wk | hmm, windows 7 claims it supports dx9 | 14:28 |
Ian_Corne | it probably does :p | 14:28 |
patdk-wk | heh, no ubuntu love :( | 14:29 |
Ian_Corne | buh? | 14:29 |
patdk-wk | no 3d support in ubuntu, so unity bombs out | 14:29 |
Ian_Corne | ah | 14:30 |
Ian_Corne | like that | 14:30 |
charlie-tca | Must be nividia? | 14:31 |
patdk-wk | na, vmware :) | 14:33 |
patdk-wk | lucid as my host, natty and win7 in vmware | 14:33 |
BUGabundo | damn you chromium | 14:57 |
BUGabundo | stop killing my laptop :( | 14:57 |
Ian_Corne | :p | 15:02 |
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TecnicoDPC | Hello 2 All | 18:31 |
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geser | anyone else having problems to connect with pidgin to ICQ? | 21:30 |
Ian_Corne | Sorry never really used ICQ | 21:31 |
BUGabundo | evening | 21:39 |
BUGabundo | anyone can tip me off on how to limit an app ram usage? | 21:40 |
BUGabundo | specially chromium? | 21:40 |
lubun2 | BUGabundo, what for? | 21:41 |
BUGabundo | so it won't make my system crash, when it mem leaks | 21:42 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: use ulimit in a shell and then run it from the same shell | 21:48 |
BUGabundo | okay | 21:48 |
penguin42 | hmm I wonder if that will work with chromium | 21:50 |
* BUGabundo stabs gnome-terminal | 21:50 | |
BUGabundo | penguin42: I doubt it, since it will fork | 21:51 |
BUGabundo | but I can try | 21:51 |
* penguin42 takes away BUGabundo's stabby thing | 21:51 | |
BUGabundo | once I get gnome-terminal from killing it self everytime I open a new tab | 21:51 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: It will limit the maximum size of any one process though - and if it manages that it should stop any run aways | 21:51 |
BUGabundo | I could pass a flag to avoid it doing more process | 21:52 |
Ian_Corne | BUGabundo: what version of chromium are you using? | 22:00 |
Ian_Corne | I'm using 9.0.583.0 | 22:00 |
Ian_Corne | and don't experience that | 22:00 |
Ian_Corne | 64 bit | 22:00 |
BUGabundo | 9.0.583.0 (66089) Ubuntu 11.04 | 22:01 |
BUGabundo | I'm on SSD, no swap | 22:01 |
BUGabundo | my system crashes a few times a day | 22:02 |
BUGabundo | some pages that do heavy loading, or have lots of multimedia object, specially flash, kill it for sure | 22:02 |
BUGabundo | my system freezes for several seconds, and resumes, or freezes for good | 22:02 |
BUGabundo | most of the time I can do a sysrq for recovery, but not always | 22:03 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: Keep a few monitoring things going in the background so when it happens you can figure out what went on | 22:03 |
BUGabundo | like? | 22:04 |
penguin42 | I'd keep a vmstat 1 running in a terminal - or something you can see from a terminal on nother machine | 22:06 |
penguin42 | see if it is running out of memory, also remove syslog can be useful | 22:07 |
BUGabundo | what the.... | 22:49 |
BUGabundo | its not chromium... or at least not only it | 22:49 |
BUGabundo | its my X or compiz | 22:49 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: Lots of cases where the problem is an application allocating large chunks of space in X's memory | 22:50 |
BUGabundo | and compiz is responsible for my gnome terminal to *hide* not die | 22:50 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: Try xrestop | 22:50 |
BUGabundo | let me see if there's a shortcut for it | 22:50 |
penguin42 | yeh well compiz pushes the graphics drivers hard | 22:50 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: I forget - which graphics driver are you using? | 22:50 |
BUGabundo | right now, nvidia blob | 22:51 |
BUGabundo | since I can't make nouvuea 3D work | 22:51 |
penguin42 | nod | 22:51 |
sebsebseb | HI | 22:54 |
BUGabundo | res-base Wins GCs Fnts Pxms Misc Pxm mem Other Total PID Identifier | 23:22 |
BUGabundo | 4200000 47 103 1 113 276 8825K 10K 8836K 2372 chromium-browser | 23:22 |
BUGabundo | 0c00000 6 34 0 20 217 4128K 6K 4134K 1436 gsd-xrandr | 23:22 |
BUGabundo | 0200000 0 1 0 1 0 4000K 24B 4000K ? <unknown> | 23:22 |
BUGabundo | 4a00000 5 87 1 21 70 2598K 4K 2603K 17457 Character Map | 23:22 |
BUGabundo | penguin42: ^^^^^^^ | 23:22 |
* penguin42 hits BUGabundo with a paste-bin | 23:22 | |
BUGabundo | 4 lines? | 23:22 |
penguin42 | 5 - long ones - anyway, still it shows chromium isn't taking much X memory - or at least not asking for it in the normal way | 23:23 |
penguin42 | (I don't know enough to know what's included and what isn't) | 23:23 |
BUGabundo | 2515 12 0 50363K 1.2G 432.0M 0K 0K 11% chromium-brows | 23:26 |
BUGabundo | 2511 269 0 50363K 1.0G 257.3M 344K 412K 6% chromium-brows | 23:26 |
BUGabundo | still, my chromium is using way too much ram | 23:27 |
BUGabundo | and I can't pin point where | 23:27 |
penguin42 | what are you doing with it? | 23:31 |
penguin42 | mine shows as having a lot of virtual memory, but very little is resident (even on this machine with lots of RAM) | 23:31 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: You could turn resource tracking on in Chromium | 23:33 |
BUGabundo | sure, how? | 23:34 |
penguin42 | BUGabundo: Spanner->Tools->Developer tools->resources->enable resource tracking | 23:35 |
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