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Drakesonis mipmap screwed up in compiz "static application switcher" plugin? alt-tab crashes compiz in no time.03:05
needhelp1is banshee going to be the default media player in 11.04?04:37
UndiFineDthat is the plan04:41
needhelp1is there any official stating explaining why?04:41
UndiFineDyes it was discussed at UDS-N04:42
UndiFineDI have 2010-10-29-20-15-packageselection-desktop-n-banshee.ogg04:43
needhelp1is there any discussion or group efforts to reverse this decision that come to mind ?04:44
UndiFineDshall I dcc it to you ?04:44
needhelp1i dont dcc, sorry, is it on the net anywhere04:45
UndiFineDI forgot where i downloaded it from04:45
UndiFineDmight be cdimage.ubuntu.com04:46
needhelp1is there any discussion or group efforts to reverse this decision that come to mind ?04:46
UndiFineDgobby.ubuntu.com : packageselection-desktop-n-application-selection04:47
needhelp1gobby.ubuntu.com wont load04:50
UndiFineDno you need gobby 0.5 for that04:51
UndiFineDhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/532137/04:52
needhelp1oh ok thanks04:52
needhelp1i'll apt-install gobby04:52
needhelp1im gona search the forums for any discussion on banshee in 11.0404:52
UndiFineDit is in the paste04:53
needhelp1yeah i read it04:53
needhelp1thanks04:53
UndiFineDat the bottom are the people to contact04:53
needhelp1https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-application-selection04:55
needhelp1i dont see a link for conor to contact though04:55
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OlognAha, other people are having compiz crash as well - bug #67383007:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 673830 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz segfaults when running in a VMware VM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67383007:57
OlognWell, I'll just stick with reliable old metacity...07:58
jakubohi, i have updated to natty and discovered a problem scanning for ssids on with p54pci08:04
jakuboit does find only one network, and always the same, but its not constantly there08:05
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jakuboanyone there?08:41
popeyjakubo: usually, yes08:44
jakubodo you have a clue concerning my problem?08:44
jakuboi cant connect to my ap any more please help09:31
yellabshi there09:36
yellabsnatty narwhal has problems with 82865G intel onboard video09:37
yellabsmaybe later it will be solved...09:37
yellabsi cant run testrapport,, though09:37
yellabsto bad09:38
yellabsah well thats life..09:44
timmillwoodanyone had any issues installing the nightly build of 11.04?12:49
penguin42just has a machine doing updates, I'm not doing installs yet12:49
BUGabundoits a mess currently12:49
BUGabundoI've lost most of my applets , even if installed12:49
BUGabundocompiz is a mess12:49
BUGabundonouveau won't even start X12:49
penguin42it's mostly OK for me (Intel graphics) - although the hibernate option has disappeared12:50
BUGabundocan't drag app in the app tray12:50
BUGabundobah12:50
sagacigood the release date isn't anytime soon :P12:50
timmillwoodI was trying the iso in virtualbox and couldnt even get it to boot12:50
Ian_Cornegnome-open still ignores the setting of the prefered browser :p12:51
Ian_CorneI had to remove compiz12:51
BUGabundoIan_Corne: aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh12:53
BUGabundoso that's why all link images open in eog12:53
BUGabundocompiz-extra got depreciated12:53
Ian_Corneyes also12:53
Ian_CorneI think they're messing with it12:53
timmillwoodunity in the nighty buld of 11.04 yet?12:56
BUGabundolunch12:57
BUGabundobbl12:57
BUGabundoI don't see unity for my system, on GDM (or what ever its called now)12:57
coz_what is best way to upgrade maverick to natty at this point?13:00
IdleOnecoz_: I changed the sources.list to natty, don't know if that is the best way.13:04
cozziemotoIdleOne,  thankas13:10
cozziemotoIdleOne,   on maverick machine now13:10
cozziemotoIdleOne,  i tried that but it didnt work13:11
IdleOnecozziemoto: probably best to wait for alpha1 to be released.13:14
cozziemotoIdleOne,  yeah  understood :)  I can wait...actually I wanted to test compiz/unity13:16
BUGabundocozziemoto: there used to be a PPA with it13:34
BUGabundoso you could try it on maverick13:34
BUGabundocozziemoto: what didn't work when you changed sources?13:34
BUGabundosudo aptitude full-upgrade should have worked13:34
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mhall119update-manager -d will upgrade you to 11.0413:42
BUGabundoalready ? cool13:44
wrstmhall119: finally saw the little unity enable thing in the compiz settings manager13:49
mhall119wrst: there's a unity setting in ccsm?13:51
wrstyes i couldn't get it to work mhall119 from logging into ubuntu netbook from gdm i just got a white screen, but from within gnome i can enable unity but it sorta piles it up on the existing gnome setup13:52
mhall119huh13:52
mhall119I'm still running in vbox, so I won't be able to run Unity anyway13:52
mhall119but good to know13:52
wrstyeah it plastered unity on top of my existing gnome13:53
wrstkinda weird :)13:53
wrstbut what little it was useable seems pretty neat13:53
mhall119it seemed nice on my netbook, just unusably slow and didn't fit well on a 7" screen13:55
wrston my ati card it has many problems13:57
wrstso really unusable on it13:57
Ian_Corne:D13:57
Ian_CorneOS drivers wrst ?13:57
Ian_CorneI dare not try it on my nouveau laptop..13:58
wrstyes Ian_Corne my card is "too old" for ati to support it so i have the open drivers that generally do work pretty well13:58
BUGabundonouvuea is broken13:58
BUGabundoI can't even enable it13:58
Ian_CorneI have to wait another month and nvidia should release a driver then that I can use14:00
wrsti installed unity on my 10.10 desktop with nviida it works well with it but don't have the unity/compiz running on it14:01
patdk-wkheh14:07
patdk-wk"No required driver detected for unity." :(14:07
wrstthat stinks patdk-wk14:09
BUGabundoFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU14:22
BUGabundoctrl+shift+t to open a new tab in gnome-terminal kills it :(14:22
Ian_Cornekills what?14:22
Ian_Corneit works for me14:22
BUGabundomine it _explodes_14:23
Ian_Corneyour terminal?14:23
BUGabundoyep14:24
Ian_Cornetry F114:25
Ian_Corne:p14:25
patdk-wkhmm, windows 7 claims it supports dx914:28
Ian_Corneit probably does :p14:28
patdk-wkheh, no ubuntu love :(14:29
Ian_Cornebuh?14:29
patdk-wkno 3d support in ubuntu, so unity bombs out14:29
Ian_Corneah14:30
Ian_Cornelike that14:30
charlie-tcaMust be nividia?14:31
patdk-wkna, vmware :)14:33
patdk-wklucid as my host, natty and win7 in vmware14:33
BUGabundodamn you chromium14:57
BUGabundostop killing my laptop :(14:57
Ian_Corne:p15:02
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geseranyone else having problems to connect with pidgin to ICQ?21:30
Ian_CorneSorry never really used ICQ21:31
BUGabundoevening21:39
BUGabundoanyone can tip me off on how to limit an app ram usage?21:40
BUGabundospecially chromium?21:40
lubun2BUGabundo, what for?21:41
BUGabundoso it won't make my system crash, when it mem leaks21:42
penguin42BUGabundo: use ulimit in a shell and then run it from the same shell21:48
BUGabundookay21:48
penguin42hmm I wonder if that will work with chromium21:50
* BUGabundo stabs gnome-terminal21:50
BUGabundopenguin42: I doubt it, since it will fork21:51
BUGabundobut I can try21:51
* penguin42 takes away BUGabundo's stabby thing21:51
BUGabundoonce I get gnome-terminal from killing it self everytime I open a new tab21:51
penguin42BUGabundo: It will limit the maximum size of any one process though - and if it manages that it should stop any run aways21:51
BUGabundoI could pass a flag to avoid it doing more process21:52
Ian_CorneBUGabundo: what version of chromium are you using?22:00
Ian_CorneI'm using 9.0.583.022:00
Ian_Corneand don't experience that22:00
Ian_Corne64 bit22:00
BUGabundo9.0.583.0 (66089) Ubuntu 11.0422:01
BUGabundoI'm on SSD, no swap22:01
BUGabundomy system crashes a few times a day22:02
BUGabundosome pages that do heavy loading, or have lots of multimedia object, specially flash, kill it for sure22:02
BUGabundomy system freezes for several seconds, and resumes, or freezes for good22:02
BUGabundomost of the time I can do a sysrq for recovery, but not always22:03
penguin42BUGabundo: Keep a few monitoring things going in the background so when it happens you can figure out what went on22:03
BUGabundolike?22:04
penguin42I'd keep a vmstat 1 running in a terminal - or something you can see from a terminal on nother machine22:06
penguin42see if it is running out of memory, also remove syslog can be useful22:07
BUGabundowhat the....22:49
BUGabundoits not chromium... or at least not only it22:49
BUGabundoits my X or compiz22:49
penguin42BUGabundo: Lots of cases where the problem is an application allocating large chunks of space in X's memory22:50
BUGabundoand compiz is responsible for my gnome terminal to *hide* not die22:50
penguin42BUGabundo: Try xrestop22:50
BUGabundolet me see if there's a shortcut for it22:50
penguin42yeh well compiz pushes the graphics drivers hard22:50
penguin42BUGabundo: I forget - which graphics driver are you using?22:50
BUGabundoright now, nvidia blob22:51
BUGabundosince I can't make nouvuea 3D work22:51
penguin42nod22:51
sebsebsebHI22:54
BUGabundores-base Wins  GCs Fnts Pxms Misc   Pxm mem  Other   Total   PID Identifier23:22
BUGabundo4200000    47  103    1  113  276     8825K     10K   8836K  2372 chromium-browser23:22
BUGabundo0c00000     6   34    0   20  217     4128K      6K   4134K  1436 gsd-xrandr23:22
BUGabundo0200000     0    1    0    1    0     4000K     24B   4000K   ?   <unknown>23:22
BUGabundo4a00000     5   87    1   21   70     2598K      4K   2603K 17457 Character Map23:22
BUGabundopenguin42: ^^^^^^^23:22
* penguin42 hits BUGabundo with a paste-bin23:22
BUGabundo4 lines?23:22
penguin425 - long ones - anyway, still it shows chromium isn't taking much X memory - or at least not asking for it in the normal way23:23
penguin42(I don't know enough to know what's included and what isn't)23:23
BUGabundo 2515     12      0      50363K   1.2G 432.0M     0K     0K  11% chromium-brows23:26
BUGabundo 2511    269      0      50363K   1.0G 257.3M   344K   412K   6% chromium-brows23:26
BUGabundostill, my chromium is using way too much ram23:27
BUGabundoand I can't pin point where23:27
penguin42what are you doing with it?23:31
penguin42mine shows as having a lot of virtual memory, but very little is resident (even on this machine with lots of RAM)23:31
penguin42BUGabundo: You could turn resource tracking on in Chromium23:33
BUGabundosure, how?23:34
penguin42BUGabundo: Spanner->Tools->Developer tools->resources->enable resource tracking23:35

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