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rsalvetiGrueMaster: from what I saw, it seems that the one at the proposed was the linaro's one, not ubuntu01:55
rsalvetithe message from martin pit is from 10-26, but the proposed ubuntu kernel is from 11-0501:56
GrueMasterI didn't think it would automatically install unless we had the linaro kernel on the original image.01:56
rsalvetiGrueMaster: ok, I was confused if the user actually tested with the ubuntu one01:58
rsalvetias the linaro's kernel got the fix and released some days before the ubuntu one01:58
rsalvetibut if you say it was tested with the ubuntu kernel, please move it to verification-done and add an extra kernel01:59
GrueMasterThe test process he used was to image an SD card with our released image, update uImage per your instructions on the wiki, then after booting and running through oem-config, he enabled maverick-proposed per  the wiki instructions and ran an update.01:59
rsalvetibecause the latest message said you were waiting the tester to confirm the kernel used01:59
rsalvetiok then :-)02:00
rsalvetishould be the correct one02:00
rsalvetisorry for the confusion, wasn't clear for me02:00
GrueMasterUnfortunately I really have no way to test this (other than procedural) and my system is not setup at the moment (office restructuring and I lost a monitor).02:01
rsalvetisure, np, you need a xm a3 to be able to test it02:01
GrueMasterThat's why I had someone on #beagle do it.02:02
rsalvetinp :-)02:02
rsalvetiI'll be out again, tomorrow is a national holiday here but will be on-line most of the day02:03
rsalvetisee ya02:03
GrueMasterThat a holiday, dude.  You work too hard.02:03
rsalvetiwill be on-line most of the time because I'm going to plan the vacation properly :-)02:04
GrueMasterI meant "take".02:04
GrueMasterAh.02:04
rsalvetithat will be the next week02:04
rsalvetialright, wife is going to kill me, see ya02:04
GrueMasterLater.02:04
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hrwmorgen08:15
silverrootsHi, i m newbie to this channel. Have a query regarding how can i compile a arm binary on maverick ?10:01
silverrootsi have installed arm-linux-gnueabi- package10:02
hrwsilverroots: how you would compile it for your machine?10:05
silverrootshrw, thats actually my Q is..? Can i compile using cross tool chain available in maverick?10:14
hrwyes, you can10:15
silverrootsis there any guide for that?10:15
silverrootsnormally i m compiling for x86 is using ./autogen && make && make install..but i assume there should be pre things to be done to make it arm binary10:16
silverrootshrw, thanks i guess i got a good link :)10:19
silverrootsnope..its not..it has how to for just kernel..not any regular module10:20
hrwconfigure --target arm-linux-gnueabi10:23
silverrootshrw, ok will try that now..10:24
sveinseAre there anyone who happen to have Qt 4.7 embedded compiled against SGX for maverick?10:30
hrwogra_ac: bug 67554213:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 675542 in x-loader-omap4 (Ubuntu) "Fails to apply patches (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67554213:32
ogra_achrw, why isnt that properly triaged ?13:33
ogra_acplease make sure to subscribe ubuntu-armel to bugs you want to be seen by us13:33
hrwogra_ac: I just filled it13:33
ogra_acah, yeah, 50sec ago, sorry13:34
hrwogra_ac: and I prefer to not subscribe teams to bugs on packages/projects which have living maintainer13:34
hrw~curse LP for breaking formatting13:36
ogra_achrw, works fine for me13:36
ogra_ac(on maverick in a natty chroot)13:36
hrwfun13:38
ogra_acand given that there was no change to the package since maverick release i would wonder why the patch cant apply13:38
hrwlet me check other arm13:39
hrwcrap. on efikasb it works13:42
hrw~curse pandaboard13:42
ogra_acworks on panda too here13:43
hrwmarked invalid13:43
ogra_acthanks13:43
hrwbad things happen in armel world ;(13:43
hrwqt/kde ftfbs13:44
ogra_acblame gcc13:44
hrwI know13:44
ogra_acbut there are workarounds13:44
hrwand nokia for ignoring thumb213:44
ogra_acyeah13:44
loolThe qt FTBFS is actually a qt one, not a gcc bug13:45
loolat least the thumb=it part of it13:45
ogra_acoh ?13:45
ogra_aci thought its gccs fault13:45
hrwogra_ac: gcc-4.5 dropped workaround13:45
ogra_acah13:45
hrwsth like that13:46
ogra_acwell, changed defaults13:46
ogra_acbut if the defaults carried a workaround, i agree13:46
hrwqt is armv6 and is UP13:46
hrwno thumb support, no smp13:46
ogra_acand still broken neon detection13:46
loolIt was a flag to assume that lack of specifier meant thumb specifier, which is ugly and not the upstream default13:46
ogra_acyeah13:47
hrwI hope that one day "mem=1G" will work on my panda13:49
ogra_acfix the kernel ;)13:50
hrw;D13:50
simosxIs there a guide where I can use Ubuntu, add some packages, and be able to cross compile to Arm? My current way is to download the CodeSourcery compiler .tar.gz file.13:50
hrwsimosx:  wanna cross build ? http://42.pl/u/2u8U13:50
hrwnext thing to blog about... "how to use xdeb in cross builds"13:51
ScottKogra_ac: implicit-it=thumb wasn't just removed from defaults, it doesn't work at all currently (see  675240).  Not sure if that was on purpose or not.13:53
simosxhrw: thanks :-). It's much easier this way. I need to upgrade to 10.10 to get the ARM GCC. I promise to blog about the proper way.13:53
ogra_acScottK, ouch13:53
hrwsimosx: I have to blog about it too. will replace current link in /topic then13:54
hrwshit... I forgot that natty+panda == kernel panic on boot13:55
ScottKogra_ac: Yes.  And give Thiago's comment in 673085, I suspect we are just about stuck between a rock and a hard place.13:55
hrwbug 67308513:55
ubot2Launchpad bug 673085 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Qt/KDE fails to build on ARM without implicit-it=thumb (affects: 2) (dups: 2) (heat: 38)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67308513:55
ogra_acScottK, well, we can always carry a distro patch as workaround for now13:56
ScottKogra_ac: If we have one that works, yes, but I'd want to understand why upstream wouldn't accept it (I suspect it won't just be cosmetic reasons).13:57
ogra_acno, unlikely13:57
suihkulokkilool, hrw, is the thumb2/multicore issue reported upstream? I didn't spot it in a quick search.13:57
hrwsuihkulokki: no idea, did not tracked13:59
hrwsuihkulokki: but I assume that it is not present in qt bugtracker13:59
hrwor does nokia care at all13:59
* ogra_ac guesses nokia will also have to support A9 at some point ;)14:00
suihkulokkiIts hard to care about issues people dont report :)14:00
ScottKhrw: Considering Thiago Maciera is commenting in 673085, I think not caring isn't it.14:00
hrwshit. booted panda to 460+256MB setup, refetched xloader source and still fail14:05
hrwnow test in tmpfs14:06
ogra_aci dont think you have a ram issue there, loolks more liek filesystem corruption to me if a patch doesnt apply14:06
hrwsame14:06
hrwfresh tmpfs fails14:07
hrwmd5sums of archive are correct14:07
ogra_aclool, do you plan to SRU your debootstrap workaround into maverick ? (would that make sense)14:11
ogra_ac(for the dpkg segfault)14:11
loolsuihkulokki: Dunno14:21
loolsuihkulokki: I guess not14:22
loologra_ac: Is it a problem under maverick?14:22
ogra_aclool, if you build natty, yes14:22
ogra_acits nattys dpkg that has the issue so building a natty chroot in maverick causes the same issue14:22
loologra_ac: I wouldn't mind; but I'd rather get the fix merged in Debian first; you're welcome to SRU it too; I don't debootstrap natty from maverick myself these days, albeit I could have to in the future14:23
ogra_acbut effectively its just a workaround14:23
loolIdeally, we'd fix dpkg in natty and this would fix debootstrap from maverick as well14:24
ogra_acwhich i expect to be dropped as soon as dpkg is fixed14:24
ogra_acwell, i think thats still the plan14:24
ogra_acso SRUing back and forth for the workaround probably doesnt make sense14:24
loologra_ac: Would you have time to reduce the test case in dpkg?14:33
loolI'm not sure James is looking at it and I certainly don't have the time to look into it this week14:33
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ogra_aclool, i think james is supposed to do that14:36
ogra_acat leqast thats how i understood colin14:37
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faganQuick question I want to get a toshiba ac100 and I know that most stuff works out of the box in 10.10, is there anything to stop me getting one and sticking ubuntu on it?16:36
* fagan is looking to get one 16:37
faganLast I heard sound and video werent working all that well16:37
ScottKogra_ac: I'm working on testing the IT patch from michaelh1 for qt4-x11.  My plan is to build a fixed Qt locally and then if I can build a package that currently FTBFS due to the lack of implicit-it=thumb, then I'll declare victory and upload it.16:47
ogra_acScottK, awesome16:48
ScottKIt's a LOT easier to work on armel stuff once one has some hardware ...16:48
ogra_acheh, yeah16:48
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hrwScottK: what HW you are using for builds?21:36
MartynHey all.21:42
Martynanyone even vaguely awake?21:47
hrwa bit21:55
ScottKhrw: I've got three Efika MX smarttops (running Karmic) sharing the build using icecc.21:59
hrwnice22:00
ScottKThe trickiest part was arranging to have icecc also distribute the compiler to use so they all build their bits using the same GCC version.22:02
* ScottK didn't figure out that part - was a team effort.22:02
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Guest89205Anyone awake?  I have a question about platform devices...22:41
Guest89205specifically, initializing the data that goes into the pdev->dev.platform_device22:41
Guest89205er dev.platform_data22:41
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Martyn'ogra, you online?22:50
Sp0tterI've been told that the pandaboard supports 1080p playback, but that xbmc and mythtv do not work with that yet, but "ubuntu does"..  could anyone clarify the usefulness of a pandaboard with ubuntu as a media front end?23:40
prpplagueSp0tter: you may have to wait for a bit for someone to answer23:41
Sp0tteralrighty23:41
prpplagueSp0tter: the other person to as is robclark23:41
Sp0tterprpplague: do you know where to purchase a case for the pandaboard?23:41
Sp0tteror is it just make your own only23:42
prpplagueSp0tter: no case is available currently23:42
prpplagueSp0tter: pretty much23:42
Sp0tterk23:42
prpplagueSp0tter: there is plans for an accessory board plus case called the Bamboo23:42
prpplagueSp0tter: http://www.elinux.org/Panda_Bamboo23:42
Sp0tteryea it seems to be evolving quickly23:42
Sp0tterthats the only reason i'm hesitant to order one23:43
Sp0tter1 month wait too23:43

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