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| doctormo | wow lots of mailing list activity. | 13:52 |
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| thorwil | 0.o https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/Request-5 | 17:21 |
| doctormo | Hey thorwil | 17:22 |
| thorwil | hi doctormo | 17:22 |
| doctormo | I notice j_baer has been very active in the art community mailing list. thoughts? | 17:22 |
| thorwil | doctormo: great enthusiasm, some clear thinking, but over-eagerness | 17:23 |
| thorwil | doctormo: for example, that libreoffice request doesn't belong at all and on top of that can't be filled in quite yet | 17:25 |
| doctormo | seconded | 17:25 |
| doctormo | thorwil: Do you think we need a meeting to discuss issues? | 17:26 |
| thorwil | doctormo: i would think so, but seeing how my pointing out how the artwork team isn't ready to appear as a functional unit towards the libreoffice project twice, i doubt explaining it once again won't help | 17:28 |
| thorwil | arg! i doubt explaining it once again will help | 17:29 |
| doctormo | thorwil: Depends on the context of the discussion. I propose a meeting between myself, yourself and j_baer in private where we can discuss some of the over-eager and misplaced direction frankly. | 17:30 |
| thorwil | doctormo: we can certainly try that | 17:32 |
| doctormo | If we can get the three of us on the same page, then perhaps that's all we need to form a nucleus of a community team. | 17:38 |
| thorwil | doctormo: the only other candidates would be vish and saleel (if he sticks around this time) | 17:42 |
| doctormo | Worth inviting them in on this then. Would youlike me to set up the administration side of a meeting? | 17:45 |
| thorwil | doctormo: yes | 17:46 |
| thorwil | dinner time, bbl | 17:46 |
| vish | doctormo, thorwil: i tried to bring it up the last time when he was around, but he seems a bit over lost? | 18:03 |
| vish | s/over// | 18:05 |
| doctormo | vish, thorwil: art team mailing list has the link for the meeting doodle poll | 18:07 |
| thorwil | doctormo: doodled, thanks | 18:19 |
| vish | thorwil: the time is in GMT? | 18:20 |
| thorwil | vish: yes. the one thing i miss on doodle is selectable timezone (per user) | 18:21 |
| vish | yea, and there is no indication of the timezone!!! | 18:22 |
| vish | IMO, The key to building a team is to not talk always.. if one person is doing the talking always then its less of a team, even less if there is not much reply/output | 18:25 |
| vish | thorwil: should the meeting have been 'baer intervention' ? | 18:26 |
| * vish very bad! ;p | 18:26 | |
| thorwil | heh, yeah, bad vish! | 18:26 |
| vish | thorwil: i think what might have gone wrong is, after UDS session baer might have thought that all the team needs now is just some leadership, or someone driving the team.. | 18:28 |
| vish | when actually its that we need a team!! | 18:28 |
| thorwil | hmm, could be | 18:30 |
| vish | hrmm! we better have that meeting fast, not sure what baer is thinking!! | 19:29 |
| vish | last i heard he is not interested in doing the LibO work and not sure what community he is talking about when he mentions 'being interested' !! | 19:29 |
| thorwil | vish: i guess that's an "apology " for my behavior. | 19:30 |
| doctormo | vish: I'm terribly confused, could you fill me in on WTF? | 19:30 |
| vish | doctormo: his latest reply on the LibO thread.. | 19:31 |
| vish | thorwil: yea, but still wheres the promised land? | 19:31 |
| doctormo | I'm worried because he's looking less like a maverick and more like a disruptive element which each email to the mailing list. | 19:32 |
| vish | yea.. | 19:32 |
| doctormo | I'd like to get his arse in here so we can chat. | 19:33 |
| thorwil | vish, doctormo: he must be referring to http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/msg01191.html | 19:35 |
| vish | thorwil: yea, but still not an excuse nor is that offensive.. | 19:39 |
| doctormo | thorwil: My only comment is that issues within the ubuntu community should stay in the ubuntu community. | 19:39 |
| doctormo | But other than that, I think that it's just as wrong to stand up and count yourself as representing the art community in total. | 19:39 |
| doctormo | which is what j_baer has done 3 times now. | 19:40 |
| thorwil | doctormo: yes, that's the aspect of it i'm uneasy about. but from my point of view, John and David pulled that topic over there | 19:40 |
| doctormo | pulled the topic? | 19:41 |
| thorwil | doctormo: caused me to put the record straight by repeatedly "representing" the community (John) or saying how great the Team would be and what wonders it will do (David) | 19:43 |
| doctormo | doh | 19:43 |
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