[01:53] <nigelb> AlanBell: hah, I think she's the web designer on the team \o/
[02:33] <cjohnston> 92 hours work in 5 days...
[02:34]  * cjohnston needs another vacation
[02:40] <nigelb> lol
[02:40] <nigelb> you've had too much vaction
[02:40] <nigelb> cjohnston: ^^
[02:41] <cjohnston> In the 5 days I've been back to work I've worked more than most people work in two weeks...
[02:42] <nigelb> yes
[02:42] <nigelb> but you've had more vacation that people take in 10 years :p
[02:43] <cjohnston> lol
[02:45] <nigelb> yay spam with jussi's name on it
[02:46] <cjohnston> uggh
[02:46] <cjohnston> go figure
[02:57] <nigelb> yeah
[06:34] <nigelb> evening jono
[06:34] <jono> howdy nigelb
[06:38] <popey> morning
[06:46] <nigelb> O_O
[06:46] <nigelb> popey: no sleep?
[06:46] <nigelb> I saw you up rather late :)
[06:48] <popey> yeah, only had about an hour
[07:04]  * nigelb hugs popey 
[07:24] <dholbach> good morning!
[07:24] <nigelb> Morning dholbach :)
[07:26] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[07:39] <jono> popey, you need more sleep, pal
[07:39] <popey> tell me about it
[07:40] <dholbach> hey jono, hey popey
[07:40] <popey> morning gorgeous
[07:40] <dholbach> haha :)
[07:40]  * dholbach is excited
[07:40] <dholbach> the Berlin mafia will get together and work together today
[07:40] <dholbach> it's going to be great
[07:40] <jono> dholbach, :-)
[07:48] <jono> ok bed for me
[07:48] <jono> night all!
[07:49] <jono> oh dholbach, before I run
[07:49] <jono> could you do me a favor?
[07:49] <jono> check with pitti to see why Ahmed's blueprints are not appearing on http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-community.html - thanks!
[07:50] <popey> sleep tight
[07:50] <popey> :)
[07:50] <jono> thanks popey
[07:50] <jono> dholbach, drop me an email to let me know what is going on with the burndown and if you managed to get it fixed
[07:50] <jono> thanks!
[07:50] <jono> night!
[07:55] <dholbach> ... ok
[07:55] <dholbach> ara, ha, you managed to get the wireless working? :)
[07:55] <ara> morning dholbach
[07:56] <ara> dholbach, yes, we all did
[07:56] <dholbach> super
[07:57] <dholbach> ara: do we still need an extension cord or do you all have power?
[07:57] <ara> mmm, I think noodles wouldn't mind an extension cord
[07:57] <dholbach> ok, perfect - I'll be there in a bit
[08:05] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[08:05] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:05] <dpm> hey dholbach :)
[08:22] <nigelb> Berlin Mafia? whaa?
[08:22] <nigelb> morning dpm
[08:31] <dholbach> nigelb, the Berlinian Canonical folks
[08:31] <nigelb> oh no, worse :p
[08:33] <nigelb> dholbach: How many Canonical folks in Berlin apart from you and a r a?
[08:33] <dholbach> 3 others
[08:34] <nigelb> wow, lots of people!
[08:38] <popey> nice idea to have an office
[08:38] <popey> rather than all working at home
[08:45] <nigelb> popey: I think dholbach works from an office
[08:45] <dholbach> yes, we're in that office now
[08:45] <popey> thats what I said :)
[08:46] <nigelb> aha
[09:09] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:09] <czajkowski> dholbach: sounds like a fun packed time over there
[09:17] <dholbach> czajkowski, heya
[09:18] <dholbach> yeah, we're now complete - doko finally made it :)
[09:54] <czajkowski> yay
[10:41] <nigelb> who's training@ubuntu.com? Dinda?
[10:42] <czajkowski> used to be
[10:42] <czajkowski> not sure it's still the case
[10:42] <nigelb> well, need to give her big hugs for the photos :)
[10:42] <popey> Billy probably still gets the mail
[10:42] <nigelb> I wish it was Bcc'd instead of To'd
[12:05] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:06] <czajkowski> nigelb: not a biggie really, most if not all the mails to UDS folks are TO and not BCC'd
[12:06] <czajkowski> we're all in the same community a quick launchpad look up gives you multipl email addresses for folks
[12:07] <nigelb> czajkowski: well, true
[12:07] <nigelb> all the same, I just prefer mass mails with Bcc
[12:08] <czajkowski> but it's the same people folks mail every single day on mailing lists...
[12:08] <czajkowski> and again same community
[12:09] <czajkowski> and looking at lp/wiki gives everyone everyones contact address so just a bit confused re your comment
[15:45] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:45] <dholbach> jono, got the blueprints sorted out
[15:46] <dholbach> it was a missing "Work items:" in the first line
[15:53] <jono> ahhh!
[15:53] <jono> thanks dholbach
[16:47] <paultag> jono, http://twitter.com/paultag/status/4179379617800192
[16:49] <jcastro> hi dholbach
[16:50] <dholbach> hey jcastro
[16:50] <jcastro> is that huge line spike in the graph expected?
[16:51] <jcastro> I have nightmares
[16:51] <dholbach> yes
[16:51] <dholbach> it's the unstoppable kim0
[16:51] <jcastro> oh ok, so the line is wrong
[16:51] <jcastro> whew
[16:51] <czajkowski> lordie
[16:51] <dholbach> working with doko, noodles, ara and yaiza is fantastic - I wish we could set up a Berlin Canonical office
[16:52] <czajkowski> heh
[16:52] <czajkowski> dholbach: what are ye working on ?
[16:52] <dholbach> czajkowski, I can't tell you
[16:52] <czajkowski> ok
[16:52] <dholbach> just kidding - it's always doko triyng to interrupt our work here :)
[16:53] <czajkowski> doko?
[16:53] <dholbach> Matthias Klose
[16:53] <dholbach> on the Platform team
[16:53] <czajkowski> ahh
[16:53] <czajkowski> ok
[17:25] <dholbach> jono, 6m?
[17:30] <dpm> ok everyone, time to call it a day, see you all tomorrow!
[17:30] <duanedesign> doctormo: i was wondering if you had a second. I am stuck on creatinng my setup.py file and thought you might be able to help.
[17:31] <doctormo> duanedesign: Of course, can you pastebin it and explain what is wrong?
[17:31] <jcastro> <-- lunchin'
[17:32] <jono> dholbach, gonna be slightly delayed
[17:32] <dholbach> jono, ok
[17:35] <jono> dholbach, ok, calling on skype
[17:35] <duanedesign> doctormo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/532472/  line 32 . I have a locale directory which contains folders for each locale. In those I have the LC_Messages directorry which contains the clicompanion.mo. I want to install that in /usr/share/clicompanion/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/clicompanion.mo
[17:35]  * dholbach stops mumble and starts skype
[17:36] <dholbach> jono, let's go
[17:40] <doctormo> duanedesign: You should be using the dist-utils translation/installation code, it makes it much easier.
[17:41] <scott-work> doctormo:  i am ready to talk about how i can help you whenever you are ready :)
[17:41] <duanedesign> doctormo: that is what you used in the groundcontrol setup.py?
[17:42] <doctormo> duanedesign: See for example http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~groundcontrollers/groundcontrol/trunk/annotate/head%3A/setup.py for how gc does this work.
[17:42] <doctormo> I actually had a lot of issues with i18n until a bunch of people helped fix them.
[17:42] <doctormo> Now I use this as a template for how to do it.
[17:43] <duanedesign> doctormo: thanks i will take a look
[17:48] <doctormo> pleia2: What is the website you use for seeing when people are available for a meeting?
[17:48] <pleia2> doctormo: doodle.com
[17:49] <doctormo> thanks luv.
[17:52] <dholbach> alright my friends
[17:52] <dholbach> it's evening time over here
[17:53] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow1
[18:39] <nisshh> jcastro, truly incredible script by jlange :)
[18:53] <jcastro> jono: 8 minutes?
[18:57] <jono> jcastro, yup
[18:57] <jono> 4mins
[19:01] <jono> jcastro, let's role on skype
[19:01] <jcastro> jono: skype or other?
[19:01] <jono> jcastro, ^
[19:02] <jcastro> all set
[19:32] <doctormo> jono: Sometimes I feel left out of your boring skype calls with the community ;-) especially when there isn't much chatter in this room.
[19:35] <doctormo> jcastro: The number of unanswered questions on ask is rising, probably in line with the number of questions being asked. Some of them are really hard to answer.
[19:36] <doctormo> Should we have a way to deal with hard questions? bringing them to the attention of possible experts?
[19:39] <nisshh> doctormo, i feel left out too! *goes and cries in the corner*
[19:39] <jcastro> doctormo: mostly I just let the system work, the community user bumps the unanswered ones
[19:39] <nisshh> :)
[19:40] <jcastro> as users figure it out they get more involved, etc.
[19:40] <jcastro> doctormo: one way to help (once you get the rep) is to fix the formatting and grammer of older unanswered questions for a natural bump
[19:40] <doctormo> OK, I'll go with that, thanks jcastro. I've been pushing for rep, 800 more to go I think for editing.
[19:43] <jcastro> or help them tag better, etc.
[20:00] <sense> I'm off for today, see you guys!
[20:18] <Technoviking> jono: ping me if you have any questions about that email I just sent, but I don't think it will be a problem.
[20:21] <czajkowski> bah how if I'm suscribed to -devel does my mail still have to be moderated
[20:31] <pleia2> all mails to -devel are moderated
[20:31] <czajkowski> who moderates them
[20:31] <pleia2> it's more announcey, -devel-discuss is the open one
[20:31] <czajkowski> pleia2: perhaps just the message states you are not a dev kinda is a kick in the pants tbh
[20:32] <pleia2> "Open to all to subscribe, posting moderated for people who are not Ubuntu developers"
[20:32] <pleia2> not sure who all the moderators are
[20:32] <czajkowski> ok what is the other address that is better ?
[20:33] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[20:33] <czajkowski> pleia2: thanks
[20:33] <pleia2> sure
[20:33] <czajkowski> pleia2: think it's wise to post there even though other mail hast been modeated
[20:34] <pleia2> not sure :\
[20:34] <pleia2> I'm not all that familiar with what is strictly appropriate on -devel
[20:35] <czajkowski> will give it a go
[20:35] <czajkowski> mdz said to post the mail to devl didnt say which one
[20:35] <pleia2> you can email to -devel-discuss and just cancel your email to -devel
[20:36] <czajkowski> how do i cancle the one -devel
[20:36] <pleia2> in the email you received saying you were moderated there should be a link to cancel it
[20:37] <czajkowski> ahhh
[20:37] <czajkowski> so i do
[20:37] <czajkowski> interesting
[20:39] <czajkowski> whoo that worked
[20:39] <pleia2> good :)
[20:39] <czajkowski> now lets see if anyone replies
[20:42] <pleia2> JanC might also be worth asking, he's a *very* active fosdem guy
[20:42] <pleia2> (if you haven't already)
[20:43] <czajkowski> nods
[20:43] <JanC> well, I'm not in the FOSDEM team, but I organize the Ubuntu booth there, and know several of the organizers  ;)
[20:43] <czajkowski> we usually have a good community side at fosdem
[20:43] <czajkowski> just be nice to have more hands on dev folks
[20:43] <czajkowski> being the event that it is
[20:43] <czajkowski> it's a poor show
[20:44] <JanC> last year was pretty bad, but it was just following a Canonical sprint at the other side of the world IIRC
[20:45] <JanC> czajkowski: ubuntu-devel@ is moderated if you are not a developer
[20:46] <czajkowski> JanC: aye but sprint was annouced after fosdem dates
[20:47] <JanC> I don't remember when the sprint was announced, and maybe it was planned before, dunno
[20:47] <JanC> at least, I hope it doesn't happen again  ;)
[20:47] <JanC> or otherwise they have a sprint in Brussels
[21:00] <doctormo> czajkowski, pleia2: devel lists are limited to motus.
[21:02] <pleia2> yep
[21:44] <jcastro> czajkowski: what was the email about?
[21:45] <jcastro> I sometimes wonder if we need a "ubuntutheproject"-style mailing list
[21:46] <czajkowski> jcastro: was avout having a dev presence at fosdem
[21:46] <jcastro> nod
[21:46] <czajkowski> I'd chatted to mdz about it and he said post to the devel list
[21:46] <czajkowski> I just didnt know thre was a devel-discss
[21:46] <czajkowski> as I'd always suscribed to -devel
[21:47] <jcastro> ah
[21:47] <jcastro> historically I use -devel for things like that
[21:50] <czajkowski> yeah I tend more to lurk on devel lists than post to them
[21:54] <jcastro> me too
[21:59] <Technoviking> Green Technoviking needs beer badly!!!
[21:59] <maco> Technoviking: O_o you know... your nick is green on my client...
[22:00] <Technoviking> lol
[22:00] <jcastro> Green Technoviking is about to die!
[22:01] <Technoviking> BEWARE!!! Sin-Technoviking-star LIVES... :)
[22:23]  * popey tickles Technoviking 
[22:23] <czajkowski> got to meet 3 of the hosuemates
[22:23] <czajkowski> rather amusing chaps
[22:24] <czajkowski> 1 mechanic - drives a bike, accent rather hard to understand
[22:24] <czajkowski> german/debian redhat worker very quiet
[22:24] <czajkowski> rob the enginner has a sense of humour
[22:24] <popey> glad the guys are okay
[22:24] <popey> worried when you said you were moving in with 5 guys in aldershot
[22:25] <czajkowski> so did my mum
[22:25] <czajkowski> asked did I have a lock for bedroom
[22:25] <czajkowski> why do germans have perfect English though.
[22:30] <czajkowski> ohh included in rent is a cleaner
[22:30] <czajkowski> :o
[22:30] <popey> wow
[22:30] <czajkowski> I know!
[22:30] <popey> how many times a week?
[22:30] <czajkowski> once a week
[22:30] <popey> you've proper landed on your feet there!
[22:30] <czajkowski> tis fantastic
[22:31] <czajkowski> ahh debian dude also finds it amusing his housemate is ubuntu user and into open source
[22:32] <popey> :D
[22:52] <nigelb> *yawn*
[22:52] <nigelb> Morning all