| TheMuso | /c/c | 00:44 |
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| lifeless | in maverick | 04:15 |
| lifeless | why does opening media (photos, movies) close the [usually nautilus] window I was browing from within? | 04:15 |
| * RAOF doesn't remember that behaviour. | 04:26 | |
| RAOF | Urgh! Alt-tab muscle memory is hard to unlearn; r600g is not a fan of it. | 04:27 |
| kklimonda | oh ffs, it's the last time I've tried to write something for Android | 04:38 |
| kklimonda | Eclipse just OOM'd.. | 04:38 |
| kklimonda | I can only hope that Nokia is going to succeed with Maemo | 04:38 |
| lifeless | RAOF: it may be 'just me' but it hurts... | 04:38 |
| RAOF | lifeless: Yeah, it sounds like it. Running nautilus from gdb doesn't happen to nett a backtrace, does it? | 04:39 |
| lifeless | oh, thinking a crash? | 04:40 |
| lifeless | I'll have a fiddle when I'm awake and not flat out | 04:40 |
| lifeless | the desktop icons don't go away or anything | 04:40 |
| lifeless | so I was thinking single window closing | 04:41 |
| RAOF | Mm, yeah. | 04:44 |
| RAOF | I don't suppose ~/.xsession-eros has anything interesting?\ | 04:45 |
| lifeless | well | 04:49 |
| lifeless | it has the fspot crash | 04:49 |
| lifeless | glib.GError: Failed to open file '/usr/share/quickly/icons/quickly48x48.png': No such file or directory | 04:50 |
| lifeless | (nautilus:2228): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion `value != NULL' failed | 04:50 |
| lifeless | Traceback (most recent call last): | 04:50 |
| lifeless | File "/usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-2.0/python/ubuntudevbar.py", line 59, in get_widget | 04:50 |
| lifeless | bar.add_image("/usr/share/quickly/icons/quickly48x48.png", current_template) | 04:50 |
| lifeless | File "/usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-2.0/python/ubuntudevbar.py", line 93, in add_image | 04:50 |
| lifeless | pixbuf = gtk.gdk.pixbuf_new_from_file(image_name) | 04:50 |
| lifeless | glib.GError: Failed to open file '/usr/share/quickly/icons/quickly48x48.png': No such file or directory | 04:50 |
| RAOF | Is the pastebinning of ~/.xsession-errors on the cards? | 04:50 |
| lifeless | its 500K | 04:51 |
| lifeless | And I'm at the caribe royale. | 04:51 |
| lifeless | so no. | 04:51 |
| RAOF | Why are you still there? | 04:51 |
| RAOF | Anyway. Hm. | 04:51 |
| lifeless | I just got herer. | 04:51 |
| RAOF | I'd presume nautilus is reasonable enough to not crash when one of it's python extensions backtraces, and the gconf-critical's really aren't. | 04:52 |
| lifeless | https://wiki.canonical.com/OnlineServices/Sprints/Cassandra-Orlando-2010 | 04:52 |
| lifeless | RAOF: it may be closing its windows though | 04:52 |
| RAOF | That's not totally unlikely, yeah. | 04:53 |
| lifeless | trying | 04:53 |
| RAOF | Hurray empiricism! | 04:53 |
| lifeless | http://pastebin.com/xpX1uBSY | 04:54 |
| lifeless | thats the new messages from when I double clicked on an image | 04:54 |
| lifeless | anyhow | 04:54 |
| lifeless | midnight | 04:54 |
| lifeless | ESLEEP | 04:55 |
| RAOF | GAH! ALT-TAB! | 04:55 |
| RAOF | Sleep well. | 04:55 |
| lifeless | actually | 04:56 |
| lifeless | nautilus is dying | 04:56 |
| lifeless | I was thinking the panels were disappearing/reappearing for a reason | 04:56 |
| lifeless | like a 'style' reason | 04:57 |
| lifeless | but *boom* would explain it. | 04:57 |
| RAOF | Heh. | 04:57 |
| kklimonda | now that's not fair - all CouchDB APIs return JsonObjects.. but one.. | 06:42 |
| kklimonda | and if now I've found one I'll probably found another.. | 06:42 |
| kklimonda | apparently dynamic languages root your brain :/ | 06:47 |
| pitti | Good morning | 06:59 |
| TheMuso | He pitti. | 06:59 |
| kklimonda | hey pitti | 07:00 |
| pitti | hey guys, how are you? | 07:00 |
| kklimonda | having fun trying to fit square into an oval hole.. but fine nonetheless :) | 07:02 |
| TheMuso | lol | 07:02 |
| nigelb | kklimonda: that's what you call fun? :p | 07:07 |
| kklimonda | I think I'm going to cheat and enclose all arrays into a dummy object.. | 07:10 |
| kklimonda | nigelb: well, either it's fun or I'm a closet masochist.. it's better be fun! ;) | 07:11 |
| nigelb | haha | 07:14 |
| kklimonda | 36 files changed, 1381 insertions(+), 5418 deletions(-) now that's what I call a job well done ;) | 08:40 |
| pitti | kklimonda: nice cleanup :) | 08:41 |
| didrocks | nice :) | 08:45 |
| didrocks | ogra: hey | 08:59 |
| didrocks | ogra: how are you? | 08:59 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 09:02 |
| didrocks | good morning rodrigo_, how was your week-end? | 09:05 |
| rodrigo_ | hi didrocks | 09:05 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, fine, and yours? | 09:05 |
| pitti | mvo: good morning | 09:05 |
| pitti | mvo: WDYT about enabling compressed apt indexes by default in natty? I'm currently preparing an apt upload for some apt-changelog updates | 09:06 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: was good and relaxing after a very busy week! :) | 09:07 |
| rodrigo_ | didrocks, yeah :) | 09:07 |
| kklimonda | rodrigo_: ola | 09:09 |
| mvo | pitti: I have no strong opinion, I would be inclined to leave them off by default as most people probably don't mind the additional space, but OTOH on a modern system the additional CPU will not hurt either (might be a issue on arm though). not everything is using the binary cache, some tools explicitely force building the index in memory (for savety when running as non-root to avoid that the bin-cache gets rebuild while running) | 09:09 |
| rodrigo_ | hi kklimonda | 09:09 |
| kklimonda | rodrigo_: you can pull git branch - I'm done with it :P | 09:10 |
| pitti | mvo: okay; then I'll remove the work item from the spec | 09:10 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, ok, cool! | 09:10 |
| seb128 | hey | 09:10 |
| mvo | pitti: ok | 09:10 |
| kklimonda | rodrigo_: now the boring part - testing and writing documentation :) | 09:10 |
| pitti | mvo: do we still need to have srcpkgcache.bin by default? | 09:11 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, right, but I can merge your branch first, if you want, or do you want to keep working and have it merged when it's all done? | 09:11 |
| kklimonda | rodrigo_: I think it's at the point where, if you like it, it should be merged | 09:12 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, ok | 09:12 |
| mvo | pitti: yes, I need to talk to david about it, he had some concerns | 09:14 |
| mvo | pitti: but I forgot what they were :/ | 09:14 |
| pitti | mvo: do you know what it's used for? I never saw any difference without it | 09:14 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 09:14 |
| mvo | pitti: I think him, we have a different understanding (david and me) if its important or not, need to figure out who is right | 09:15 |
| pitti | mvo: btw, we didn't notice a significant performance impact on arm with compressed indexes; it takes just as long to read five times the data from disk | 09:18 |
| mvo | pitti: heh :) that is interessting | 09:19 |
| pitti | (hence my proposal to turn it on by default) | 09:19 |
| mvo | pitti: right, that was/is my only concern, that it slows down things on slow-cpu systems. if that is not the case I'm fine turing it on | 09:20 |
| pitti | mvo: it's just a configuration option, so it can still be removed if necessary | 09:20 |
| mvo | we could do it and see if someone actually finds a case where it makes a difference | 09:20 |
| mvo | yeah | 09:20 |
| pitti | mvo: we could give it a try, it's not hard to revert? | 09:20 |
| mvo | sounds good | 09:20 |
| pitti | mvo: would you prefer shipping a new explicit configuration file, or turn on the internal default? | 09:20 |
| mvo | lets do it | 09:20 |
| mvo | just turn the internal default | 09:21 |
| pitti | my gut feeling is the latter | 09:21 |
| pitti | right | 09:21 |
| mvo | pitti: about apt-changelog, the longer term plan is to get that properly into apt-get as c++ (just fyi). but for now the script is fine of course :) | 09:31 |
| pitti | mvo: right; I'd like to keep the script until the implementation settles, as it's easier to change | 09:32 |
| pitti | mvo: now it's working for Debian as well, FYI :) | 09:32 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, I noticed the commit :) | 09:32 |
| pitti | mvo: I'm going to propose a merge request for Debian trunk to fix the test cases to get along with a changed internal default | 09:34 |
| pitti | mvo: would you also like an MP for enabling gzip indexes by default for Debian? | 09:34 |
| mvo | pitti: hm, that would only be interessting for experimental at this point | 09:35 |
| mvo | pitti: because of the debian release cycle | 09:35 |
| pitti | *nod* | 09:35 |
| pitti | mvo: not urgent from my side; I can propose it after squeeze | 09:35 |
| mvo | ok | 09:36 |
| mvo | that sounds good | 09:36 |
| * pitti hugs mvo, thanks | 09:36 | |
| mvo | cheers | 09:36 |
| mvo | ! | 09:36 |
| * mvo hugs pitti back | 09:36 | |
| geser | does someone know why some of my panel applets don't appear in my panel anymore in natty? do they need porting to the new libpanel-applet-3-0? | 09:41 |
| pitti | mvo: ok, sent | 09:42 |
| seb128 | geser, no, there is a compatibility loader | 10:00 |
| seb128 | geser, which ones? | 10:00 |
| geser | I'm missing netspeed, the tomboy applet and the session-applet in my panel | 10:01 |
| geser | or I'm missing a package for that compatibility loader? | 10:02 |
| seb128 | can you add them back? | 10:03 |
| geser | I don't have them in the "Add to panel" dialog | 10:05 |
| geser | do I need gnome-panel-bonobo installed for it? | 10:05 |
| pitti | seb128: bonjour! had a nice weekend? | 10:08 |
| geser | seb128: it's was the missing "gnome-panel-bonobo". Perhaps I should re-think to install recommends by default again. | 10:10 |
| seb128 | geser, ok, makes sense | 10:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, guten tag, yes it was excellent | 10:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, how was yours? | 10:11 |
| pitti | we had marvellous weather, so I went for some bicycling again, and seeing family | 10:11 |
| seb128 | great | 10:11 |
| pitti | it was 20 degrees, like spring :) | 10:11 |
| seb128 | it's not cold there but rainy often | 10:12 |
| rodrigo_ | hey seb128 | 10:12 |
| seb128 | hey rodrigo_ | 10:12 |
| pitti | seb128: since natty opening URLs from terminals takes ages and hangs the terminal for some 10 seconds; do you have that as well? | 10:12 |
| pitti | or did I break something locally? | 10:12 |
| pitti | (could be a firefox bug, too) | 10:12 |
| seb128 | didn't try from a command line but it's doing the same from GNOME softwares | 10:13 |
| seb128 | xchat-gnome for example | 10:13 |
| seb128 | it could but I didn't upgrade firefox for a while when that started there | 10:13 |
| seb128 | seems rather a bug in the gio call or something | 10:13 |
| seb128 | I didn't have time to debug it really, I copy paste urls rather than clicking on it for some days | 10:13 |
| didrocks | pitti: confirmed here | 10:14 |
| pitti | seb128: that's fine, just wanted to know whether it just affects me | 10:14 |
| pitti | cheers | 10:14 |
| didrocks | it's gio related I think, I reproduce that in both FF and chromium | 10:14 |
| geser | I see that too, I got even surprised that I got eog instead of firefox when I clicked on a http link to a png | 10:20 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, bug #674824 | 10:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 674824 in gnome-media (Ubuntu) "cant install gnome-media-common: broken dependencies (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674824 | 10:21 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, lookinh | 10:22 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ah, right, the sound capplet has been moved, so we need to package gnome-media in that PPA | 10:23 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you need at least to make your gnome-control-center, conflict,replaces gnome-media | 10:23 |
| seb128 | so people upgrading get gnome-media removed rather than a conflict breaking upgrades | 10:23 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, well, it just replaces one part of it, so is 'replaces' the right thing to do? | 10:23 |
| seb128 | not really no | 10:24 |
| seb128 | replaces means "you can overwrite files" | 10:24 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, ok | 10:24 |
| seb128 | but if you install the new g-c-c and then remove it you get those files missing | 10:24 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 10:24 |
| seb128 | it's just meant to be used when a file moved between binaries to avoid conflict | 10:24 |
| seb128 | you need a "breaks: gnome-media-common (<< 2.91)" | 10:25 |
| seb128 | Breaks | 10:25 |
| seb128 | to say that both need to be updated or that gnome-media should be uninstalled | 10:25 |
| rodrigo_ | right | 10:25 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, so -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/532248/ <- is that ok? | 10:31 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you need to patch the control.in | 10:31 |
| rodrigo_ | right! | 10:32 |
| seb128 | you should check what files you replace exactly | 10:32 |
| seb128 | I would not be surprised if you rather need a | 10:32 |
| seb128 | Replaces: gnome-media-common, (<< 2.91), gnome-media (<< 2.91) | 10:32 |
| seb128 | Breaks: gnome-media (<<...) | 10:33 |
| seb128 | the Replaces to say files moved between those binaries | 10:33 |
| seb128 | the Breaks to say to upgrade gnome-media | 10:33 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, testing that | 10:33 |
| seb128 | did you check what files moved between sources? | 10:34 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, all of the sound capplet | 10:34 |
| seb128 | ups | 10:35 |
| seb128 | don't ctrl-W in xchat-gnome ;-) | 10:35 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 10:36 |
| Zdra | seb128, is there already a package for webkitgtk3 somewhere? is it planned to push in gnome3 ppa? | 10:52 |
| seb128 | not that I know about and yes once we get one | 10:52 |
| seb128 | contributions are welcome ;-) | 10:52 |
| Zdra | hehe, ok :) | 10:52 |
| pitti | seb128: FYI, I packaged libnotify 0.7 into the gtk 3 PPA | 11:05 |
| pitti | seb128: it's a new ABI, so I renamed the source and binary to make it installable in parallel; I guess it'll take some time to switch all rdepends | 11:06 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 / pitti / didrocks / geser - the URL handling is broken because of the x-scheme-handler changes in glib | 11:06 |
| chrisccoulson | see mozilla bug 611953 for part of the fix | 11:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, why not pushing to natty? | 11:06 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 611953 in Shell Integration "GNOME 3.0 readiness" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=611953 | 11:06 |
| chrisccoulson | we need to add x-scheme-handler/http to the firefox desktop file | 11:06 |
| pitti | seb128: no particular reason, I can do that if you like; it doesn't depend on gtk | 11:06 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 11:06 |
| seb128 | thanks | 11:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, the cleaner the ppa is the easier we can handle it ;-) | 11:07 |
| seb128 | ideally the stack would land in natty now and the ppa would be a staging for things that need work or testing | 11:07 |
| pitti | seb128: it will definitively move libnotify-bin to 0.7 | 11:07 |
| pitti | seb128: so far the only package I've seen that needs 0.7 is the 2.91 packagekit-gnome version, but I stayed at 2.32 since it needs other stuff as well | 11:08 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - once i've updated the desktop file for firefox, we need to do a desktop-file-utils update to add the new types to /etc/gnome/defaults.list too | 11:09 |
| seb128 | GNOME 2.9n should depends on it | 11:09 |
| pitti | seb128: okay, I'll upload it | 11:09 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok great | 11:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 11:09 |
| chrisccoulson | then it will all start working again :) | 11:09 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, that makes sense now | 11:11 |
| seb128 | that's why it opens files as file in applications rather than in firefox | 11:11 |
| pitti | seb128: FYI, libnotify4 uploaded (in source NEW now) | 11:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, I can review that | 11:15 |
| pitti | not urgent, I guess | 11:15 |
| seb128 | right, still when I've a free slot | 11:15 |
| seb128 | sorry everybody but I'm going to gnome3 spec spam you today | 11:15 |
| pitti | don't apologize for doing work :) | 11:16 |
| * didrocks prepares the "mark all as read" :) | 11:16 | |
| === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic | ||
| mvo | pitti: I created bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mvo/apt/apt-get-changelog/ that contains a native implementation of this feature now, it should be fine because the location of the changelogs (changelogs.ubuntu.com and packages.debian.org/changelogs is pretty stable since years) | 11:56 |
| pitti | mvo: wow, that fast? | 11:57 |
| pitti | mvo: I had expected lots of trouble, since that'd need to call wget or link to curl, etc? | 11:57 |
| mvo | pitti: apt as a lot of goodness that I was able to leverage, the diff is relatively small, the harded part is doing all the uri construction :/ | 11:57 |
| nessita | good morning everyone! | 11:58 |
| pitti | hey nessita | 11:59 |
| pitti | mvo: we should just be aware that the config option won't be configurable, as you have the entire path | 11:59 |
| pitti | and my version just the prefix | 12:00 |
| pitti | mvo: but if that lands within natty, it shouldn't be a problem | 12:00 |
| nessita | hey pitti! | 12:00 |
| mvo | pitti: it uses the internal apt download method, so that is fine (no need for wget or curl). about the config> good point, I will make sure to fix it in the merge | 12:01 |
| rodrigo_ | ${source:Version} expands to the upstream version or the package version? | 12:07 |
| didrocks | good morning nessita | 12:07 |
| nessita | hey didrocks, how are you? | 12:08 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: the package source version, afaik | 12:08 |
| rodrigo_ | hi nessita | 12:08 |
| didrocks | rodrigo_: source:Version is retrieved from debian/changelog | 12:08 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 12:08 |
| Zdra | seb128, is there anyone working on gnome-keyring3? :D | 12:09 |
| didrocks | nessita: so, I had a look at your package, nice work :) | 12:09 |
| didrocks | nessita: really really small remarks: | 12:09 |
| didrocks | nessita: there is no need for Uploader: in ubuntu | 12:10 |
| nessita | didrocks: ah, lintian was complaining if not | 12:10 |
| didrocks | nessita: oh really? with --pedantic then? | 12:10 |
| nessita | didrocks: nopes, lintian -i. But I can re check. | 12:11 |
| nessita | didrocks: what else? | 12:11 |
| didrocks | ubuntuone-control-panel depends on "python-ubuntuone-control-panel (>= ${source:Version}),". Do you ensure compatibilty or should it be rather (= ${binary:Version}) for both? (same Architecture: all) | 12:11 |
| didrocks | as both comes from the same source and build on the same architecture, = is safer than >= with no additional issue because of a partial upgrade | 12:12 |
| nessita | didrocks: it should be binary. Not sure what you mean with "Architecture: all" | 12:12 |
| nessita | ah | 12:12 |
| didrocks | and equals please, don't shoot in your feet :) | 12:13 |
| nessita | didrocks: hum? not sure what that means :-) | 12:13 |
| didrocks | "= is safer than >=" | 12:13 |
| nessita | yes! | 12:14 |
| didrocks | :) | 12:14 |
| didrocks | apart from that, nothing do add | 12:14 |
| didrocks | I didn't try to build yet though | 12:14 |
| nessita | awesome | 12:14 |
| didrocks | nessita: nice work! | 12:14 |
| nessita | thanks! | 12:14 |
| didrocks | nessita: this will replace u1preference ? | 12:14 |
| nessita | didrocks: yes | 12:14 |
| didrocks | nessita: ok, so I should work based on that for getting my login account and such for oneconf, right? | 12:15 |
| nessita | didrocks: I think so, yes. But let me give you a few pointers: | 12:16 |
| nessita | when you need tokens, you will need to call ussoc (ubunut-sso-client) as usual | 12:16 |
| * didrocks listens :) | 12:16 | |
| pitti | mvo: hm, do we have any debconf integration in s-c at all? when I install xdm from synaptics, I get the fancy debconf-gtk dialog, but in s-c I don't see anything at all | 12:16 |
| nessita | didrocks: you would need to use u1cp when you want the user to know what Ubuntu One is | 12:17 |
| didrocks | nessita: but the tokens ensure me that the user have a u1 account (as having a sso account differs from having a u1 account, right?) | 12:17 |
| nessita | didrocks: if ussoc provides tokens for the 'Ubuntu One' app, then the user has an Ubuntu One account | 12:17 |
| nessita | didrocks: the u1 control panel will no handle tokens, at least not directly | 12:18 |
| mvo | pitti: we should have that | 12:18 |
| mvo | pitti: let me check if something broke | 12:18 |
| didrocks | nessita: oh ok. I should paste that somewhere when I'll have some time to dive into that :) | 12:18 |
| didrocks | nessita: of course, I'll spam you with questions as well :) | 12:18 |
| nessita | didrocks: sure! | 12:18 |
| nessita | didrocks: I have some feedback about OneConf, when you have some time (can be now if you'd like) I'll share | 12:19 |
| seb128 | Zdra, not yet | 12:19 |
| nessita | didrocks: not sure how to fix the "Architecture: all", shall I remove it from every binary package but python-ubuntuone-control-panel ? | 12:20 |
| didrocks | nessita: I'll have time to work on that seriously from A2, so if you don't mind and if that can wait, I would prefer when I'll have time for that :) | 12:20 |
| nessita | didrocks: sure! | 12:20 |
| didrocks | nessita: no no, it was just to illustrate that both binary packages will be published in the same time. No action on that | 12:20 |
| seb128 | hey nessita | 12:20 |
| nessita | didrocks: ok, thanks | 12:21 |
| nessita | hey seb128, how are you? | 12:21 |
| didrocks | nessita: yw :) | 12:21 |
| seb128 | nessita, great, thanks, what about you? | 12:22 |
| nessita | seb128: pretty good :-) | 12:23 |
| nessita | didrocks: I removed the Uploaders field and now I get no lintian warning, I probably messed up something before :-D | 12:25 |
| nessita | didrocks: so, changes would be: remove Uploadres, change (>= ${source:Version}) for (= ${binary:Version}), right? | 12:26 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| didrocks | nessita: exactly :) | 12:27 |
| nessita | didrocks: fixed and pushed to the same location | 12:30 |
| didrocks | nessita: ok, will build and sponsor (ready for natty, isn't it?) | 12:32 |
| nessita | didrocks: yes sir | 12:34 |
| didrocks | nessita: oh thinking about that, if that's going to replace u1preferences, should this one got uninstalled on upgrade? | 13:00 |
| nessita | didrocks: u1preferences is not a separated package, is part of u1client | 13:01 |
| nessita | didrocks: so we'll just remove the code... | 13:01 |
| didrocks | nessita: ok, not packaging magic to do then, nice :) | 13:01 |
| nessita | didrocks: both app will be "live" until we release u1cp (in natty, before freezes and all :-)) | 13:02 |
| didrocks | nessita: u1cp is "released" with this upload, right? | 13:03 |
| didrocks | or is it something else? | 13:03 |
| didrocks | (argh, get caught by the exception of "no @ubuntu email adress in the maintainer field and upload has an ubuntu member" | 13:03 |
| didrocks | let me see if I can bypass the check in the code locally | 13:04 |
| nessita | didrocks: yes, u1cp is released now, I meat the official release, like when is actually ready to replace u1preferences | 13:06 |
| didrocks | nessita: ok, just to ensure we were speaking about the same thing, let me try it once I can build it without any checking error :) | 13:06 |
| nessita | didrocks: sure | 13:09 |
| didrocks | nessita: do you mind to set ubuntu developers as the maintainer and you as the XSBC-Original-Maintainer as explained in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField#Design ? | 13:11 |
| fagan | didrocks: im getting a white screen when I start up unity (compiz) and compiz normally works and unity (mutter) worked fine. Is there any big issues that would cause that other than my computer being terrible? | 13:13 |
| didrocks | fagan: if unity mutter works, that means that you didn't upgrade everything. | 13:13 |
| nessita | didrocks: on it | 13:13 |
| didrocks | apt-cache policy unity? | 13:13 |
| didrocks | nessita: thanks | 13:13 |
| fagan | didrocks: I meant that unity mutter worked before the upgrade | 13:14 |
| didrocks | fagan: are you in the desktop session? | 13:14 |
| fagan | didrocks: nope I still have panel on the desktop session. The netbook session is still the default for unity right? | 13:15 |
| didrocks | fagan: did you look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/InstallationGuide ? | 13:16 |
| fagan | didrocks: nope I just installed the ppa ill have a look | 13:16 |
| didrocks | fagan: read that page, it will explains you how to activate unity | 13:16 |
| fagan | its just the ccsm bit I missed | 13:17 |
| didrocks | and the desktop session :) | 13:17 |
| seb128 | didrocks, nessita: using XSBC-Original-Maintainer for Ubuntu sources is buggy | 13:18 |
| didrocks | seb128: how do you deal with it then? When the upload doesn't have an @ubuntu.com adress? | 13:18 |
| seb128 | export DEBEMAIL=random@email.com | 13:19 |
| devildante | fagan: unity+compiz is very very buggy, fyi ;) | 13:19 |
| didrocks | seb128: sounds like an hack to me and doesn't respect https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField#Design | 13:19 |
| seb128 | didrocks, the source is coming from debian? | 13:19 |
| nessita | seb128: nopes, from me | 13:19 |
| didrocks | seb128: nop, but if we have ubuntu changes, it's written that the maintainer should have an @ubuntu address | 13:20 |
| seb128 | ok, so XSBC-Original-Maintainer is not needed | 13:20 |
| didrocks | which isn't the case | 13:20 |
| seb128 | why do we have ubuntu changes? | 13:20 |
| seb128 | if that's an ubuntu source | 13:20 |
| didrocks | I think the goal of the versionning is to have it one day in Debian? | 13:20 |
| seb128 | the debian maintainer build failure thing is just stupid | 13:21 |
| seb128 | having an ubuntu source this way is just a valid usecase | 13:21 |
| seb128 | we shouldn't have the mangle the maintainer for our own work there | 13:21 |
| fagan | yay its working :) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | the mangle -> to mangle | 13:22 |
| didrocks | well, another solution is to hack Ubuntu.pm to get a "or canonical", but that can be controversial :) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | nessita needs to run for ubuntu membership and use an ubuntu email | 13:23 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:23 |
| didrocks | :) | 13:23 |
| seb128 | well I just set DEBEMAIL to some email@debian.org when I sponsor things for her usually | 13:23 |
| seb128 | I consider it as a bug in the XSBC-Original-Maintainer checker | 13:24 |
| didrocks | yeah, but seems to violate also the same wiki page :) | 13:24 |
| seb128 | you should have a flag to tell it you know what you are doing | 13:24 |
| didrocks | but yeah, I don't care enough to argue :) | 13:24 |
| seb128 | no it doesn't? | 13:24 |
| seb128 | the goal is for packages coming from debian | 13:24 |
| seb128 | the wiki doesn't mandate to mangle ubuntu source coming from ubuntu | 13:24 |
| didrocks | "if a source package is modified relative to Debian (this can be determined automatically by examining the version number)" -> this is what is broken, it should check if it's in debian or not rather. But that's a big hammer for small cases | 13:27 |
| seb128 | didrocks, right, me neither, you can set XSBC-Original-Maintainer or unset DEBEMAIL | 13:27 |
| nessita | didrocks, seb128: I just read backlog and I'm not sure what to do, other than apply to ubuntu membership (link pliz?) | 13:27 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, i'll unset DEBEMAL | 13:27 |
| seb128 | nessita, that turned to an Ubuntu policy discussion | 13:27 |
| nessita | heh | 13:28 |
| seb128 | nessita, you don't really need to do anything, but you can apply for ubuntu membership if you want | 13:28 |
| nessita | seb128: I'd like to, not sure if I gather all the requirements. Is there a list of reqs available? | 13:28 |
| seb128 | nessita, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership | 13:29 |
| didrocks | ok, because of compiz crashing I couldn't paste the link faster :) | 13:29 |
| didrocks | it crashes chromium as well, which sounds… ackward | 13:29 |
| * rodrigo_ -> lunch | 13:30 | |
| didrocks | nessita: btw, is it normal your DEBMAIL/EMAIL is your gmail adress? (the one reported in debian/changelog) | 13:30 |
| nessita | didrocks: yes, but if you need I can change it. I package more thing ourtide canonical... | 13:31 |
| didrocks | nessita: no no, I was just wondering :) | 13:31 |
| nessita | :-) | 13:32 |
| nessita | things*, outside*. Drinking mate while typing makes my typing suck :-P | 13:33 |
| didrocks | :) | 13:33 |
| seb128 | nessita, stop drinking at work! | 13:35 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:35 |
| nessita | seb128: why?!?! you're just jealous :-D | 13:36 |
| didrocks | nessita: no, it's just seb128 never stop drinking. So he's not "drinking at work", but all the day :) | 13:36 |
| seb128 | could be ;-) | 13:36 |
| * didrocks runs… | 13:36 | |
| * seb128 whip noises | 13:36 | |
| didrocks | nessita: can't start it and seems I have the latest (and greatest of the deps): http://paste.ubuntu.com/532339/ | 13:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: ahah :) | 13:37 |
| nessita | didrocks: ah! good catch mister! I need to require natty's ubunutone-client | 13:38 |
| nessita | didrocks: which I'm not sure there is package for | 13:38 |
| nessita | didrocks: I'll hunt dobey | 13:39 |
| nessita | or rodrigo_? | 13:39 |
| didrocks | nessita: doesn't seem as the apt-cache policy seems to show I have the latest in natty | 13:39 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: any idea who's building the natty packages for u1client? | 13:39 |
| didrocks | I didn't apt-get update, let me check | 13:39 |
| nessita | didrocks: yeah, but I don't think anyone packaged latest u1client for natty, since you stole^W borrowed rodrigo_ | 13:39 |
| didrocks | (to refresh apt-cache policy) | 13:39 |
| didrocks | :) | 13:40 |
| nessita | didrocks: I'm pretty sure we need a new package for u1client, and I need to add the version to the Requires | 13:40 |
| didrocks | yeah, checked, there is pending one in maverick-proposed but maverick and natty currently have the same | 13:40 |
| nessita | yes | 13:41 |
| nessita | didrocks: I'll get back to you, I'll chase some people first :-) | 13:41 |
| didrocks | nessita: please do, chase them! :-) | 13:42 |
| nessita | didrocks: thanks a lot for this catch, I'm running u1 nightlies so this issue didn't come up | 13:42 |
| seb128 | nessita, rodrigo left for lunch | 13:42 |
| seb128 | let's wait for him to be back | 13:42 |
| nessita | seb128: yes boss! | 13:43 |
| nessita | :-P | 13:43 |
| didrocks | nessita: yw, quite hard to catch when you have things moving and no "clean machine" :) | 13:43 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 13:43 |
| bcurtiswx | has anyone started packaging emapthy 2.32.1? | 14:19 |
| bcurtiswx | empathy* | 14:19 |
| mterry | seb128, is there a reason I shouldn't try updating to gtk3-based gedit for natty? i.e. we're going ahead with the low-hanging fruit (if gedit turns out to be such)? | 14:23 |
| seb128 | mterry, not at all | 14:24 |
| seb128 | mterry, bug #656887 is yours I guess | 14:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 656887 in gtksourceview2 (Ubuntu) "requires a new source for GTK3 (affects: 1) (heat: 86)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656887 | 14:24 |
| mterry | New source? :-/ | 14:24 |
| mterry | Oh, for gtksourceview, sure | 14:24 |
| seb128 | mterry, right | 14:25 |
| seb128 | mterry, I think I checked when I opened the bug and they support only one gtk flavor so no way to dual build | 14:25 |
| seb128 | mterry, so new source since we can't drop the gtk2 build easily it has some rdepends | 14:26 |
| seb128 | mterry, btw if you want to do some updates I think gdl and anjuta could be updated | 14:26 |
| seb128 | gdl has only 2 rdepends, anjuta and gtranslator | 14:26 |
| seb128 | gtranslator seems to be pretty much ported to gtk3 in git | 14:26 |
| mterry | seb128, gdl? | 14:27 |
| seb128 | since anjuta is in universe there should be no issue to upload a gtk3 version | 14:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, libgdl-1-3 | 14:27 |
| seb128 | mterry, it's a lib used by anjuta | 14:28 |
| seb128 | I guess you would need to update it first if you update anjuta | 14:28 |
| mterry | seb128, gotcha, haven't run into it before | 14:28 |
| seb128 | mterry, other "easy target" should be cheese | 14:28 |
| seb128 | mterry, I guess you have enough items, just pick some in those ;-) | 14:28 |
| seb128 | let me know or update the spec though so we don't dup work | 14:29 |
| mterry | seb128, what happened with launchpad-integration? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, I just merged it, I'm about to upload | 14:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, I had days off work on thursday and friday so I just picked up on backlog today | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | seb128, nudge on endorsement :) | 14:31 |
| mterry | seb128, ah, OK. Didn't mean to be impatient :) | 14:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, oh right ;-) | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | seb128, also can you look at ubuntu-geoip again? | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | lp:~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu-geoip/ubuntu | 14:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | thx | 14:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey btw, had a nice weekend? ;-) | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | i sure did | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | did you? | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | i managed to play some soccer yesterday, that was fun :) | 14:33 |
| bcurtiswx | anyone who has a free minute or two, im working on bug #675555, and building gives errors of the following, http://paste.ubuntu.com/532362/ any ideas or tips I can use to figure it out? or would this be better for -motu ? | 14:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 675555 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy SRU maverick 2.32.1 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/675555 | 14:33 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I had a great weekend, didn't play soccer though | 14:34 |
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| devildante | bcurtiswx: it seems the patch isn't working | 14:34 |
| devildante | bcurtiswx: you should try to fix it | 14:34 |
| bcurtiswx | devildante, i would be lying if i said i knew where to start fixing it :-X | 14:34 |
| devildante | lol | 14:35 |
| bcurtiswx | lieing* | 14:35 |
| devildante | lying is correct spelling, ya know :p | 14:35 |
| bcurtiswx | eh, i grew up speaking english and i still can't get it right.. i gave up trying to get it right :P | 14:36 |
| devildante | lol | 14:36 |
| bcurtiswx | to-may-toe to-mah-to.. same diff :P | 14:36 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you think that we will get g-s-d (it handles gnome keybindings right?) to the gsettings version? It's linked to g-c-c for the capplet, isn't it? | 14:37 |
| bcurtiswx | didrocks, back to the paste, line 57 is the additions of the libindicate but the only other option would be to remove it i would assume.. and that doesn't seem right to me | 14:38 |
| bcurtiswx | whoops devildante not didrocks | 14:38 |
| bcurtiswx | sry | 14:38 |
| devildante | bcurtiswx: try to look at configure.ac in both original and diff, at lines 57and 597 | 14:38 |
| didrocks | no worry :) | 14:38 |
| devildante | lol | 14:38 |
| devildante | (again :p) | 14:38 |
| bcurtiswx | tab complete fail | 14:39 |
| bcurtiswx | not my brain this time | 14:39 |
| devildante | did ssh change in natty? I get a message about how my private ssh key has too much open permissions | 14:40 |
| jcastro | didrocks: good morning! | 14:43 |
| jcastro | didrocks: I was wondering what your schedule is like this week? | 14:43 |
| jcastro | Laney and crew have been slimming down the packaging of banshee | 14:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, not sure, read the email spam you got from me on the gnome3 spec | 14:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, or read the whiteboard | 14:44 |
| jcastro | and check this out: http://people.ubuntu.com/~hyperair/banshee-dep.png | 14:44 |
| jcastro | seb128: you too ^^^ | 14:44 |
| jcastro | the red boxes are stuff they've removed since UDS that we don't need to ship | 14:44 |
| jcastro | and blue is pending | 14:44 |
| hyperair | in addition, the red boxes are the stuff already included in the calculation done in UDS. blue ones weren't included in those calculations | 14:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: the whiteboard doesn't status on that, hence the fact I wanted to hilight it, because: | 14:46 |
| didrocks | (jcastro: will be back to you in a second) | 14:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, status on what? | 14:46 |
| Laney | hyperair: is the new gdata synced? | 14:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: compiz needs the gconf backend to read GNOME keybindings if they are in gconf | 14:47 |
| hyperair | Laney: yes. | 14:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well it highlight that it's a update bundled with gnome-control-center gnome-screensaver livgnomekbd | 14:47 |
| Laney | awe + some | 14:47 |
| hyperair | Laney: -5, right? | 14:47 |
| hyperair | Laney: i didn't do it, someone else must have. | 14:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: I discussed that with smspillaz last week. In fact, the plugins needs to read, but also write them | 14:47 |
| Laney | looks like directhex did | 14:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I don't think we will have a decision on g-s-d before the rally | 14:48 |
| hyperair | Laney: i guess he did. | 14:48 |
| Laney | Depends: cli-common (>= 0.5.1), libmono-corlib2.0-cil (>= 2.6.3), libmono-system2.0-cil (>= 2.6.3) | 14:48 |
| Laney | mmm slim | 14:48 |
| jcastro | Laney: over the weekend gabaug mentioned that the only thing that uses libgdata is the youtube extension. | 14:48 |
| Laney | yeah | 14:48 |
| jcastro | Laney: tbh it's alot of disk space for one feature | 14:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, so no support for GNOME keybinding before the rally as well, sounds ok? | 14:49 |
| Laney | the gdata package itself can be split up further | 14:49 |
| didrocks | (some for ws switcher and such) | 14:49 |
| didrocks | same* | 14:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, let's switch to query it's noisy there | 14:49 |
| hyperair | Laney: don't the dlls depend on each other? | 14:49 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, there hasn't been any releases, so I haven't done any new package for natty | 14:51 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, there should be in the nightlies, not sure if that has natty packages | 14:51 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: thet is no natty package yet, I've just asked dobey to help us with that. Who used to do the releases? | 14:52 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, me | 14:52 |
| nessita | rodrigo_: ah, ok. We'll try to build the package tomorrow, if we need a hand we may ping you :-) | 14:53 |
| dobey | i think we'll survive | 14:53 |
| rodrigo_ | nessita, yes, dobey knows how to, and he has upload rights also | 14:54 |
| rodrigo_ | but yes, ping me if you need anything from me | 14:54 |
| nessita | dobey, rodrigo_: thanks | 14:54 |
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| didrocks | Laney: hyperair: did you check the MIR btw? | 15:04 |
| hyperair | no i didn't | 15:04 |
| didrocks | I think it's the latest thing before changing the seed | 15:05 |
| Laney | we need mono -4 first | 15:05 |
| hyperair | hm | 15:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, libnotify | 15:12 |
| seb128 | DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_libnotify1 := -V "libnotify1 (>= 0.5.0), libnotify1-gtk2.10" | 15:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, wrong binary name | 15:12 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, that's obsolete | 15:12 |
| pitti | it'll get entirely ignored, as there is no such binary | 15:12 |
| seb128 | well you probably want the keep the line for the new soname? | 15:13 |
| seb128 | or use a .symbols | 15:13 |
| pitti | seb128: unless you know what that libnotify1-gtk2.10 thing was all about, I don't think we need it | 15:13 |
| pitti | seb128: but a symbols file would be better, yes; I'll upload a followup package | 15:13 |
| seb128 | pitti, I don't, I guess it was a virtual package to match a gtk abi | 15:14 |
| seb128 | gtk loader abi rather | 15:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, but that's not required with the current version | 15:14 |
| pitti | right, it doesn't use GTK any more apparently | 15:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, source accepted | 15:15 |
| pitti | seb128: cheers; I'll upload a .symbol-ized version | 15:15 |
| pitti | thanks for spotting | 15:15 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:15 |
| seb128 | yw | 15:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, copyright needs an update as well | 15:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, tools/notify-send.c is LGPL as well it seems | 15:16 |
| seb128 | Sat Aug 25 18:08:01 PDT 2007 Christian Hammond <chipx86@chipx86.com> | 15:17 |
| seb128 | * tools/notify-send.c: | 15:17 |
| seb128 | - Relicense notify-send under the LGPL in order to keep licensing | 15:17 |
| pitti | ok, thanks; I guess I'll modify it for DEP5 | 15:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, great | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | pitti, can you look at the ubuntuone-team work items and see why some blueprints aren't showing up? | 15:17 |
| pitti | I built that package based on lp:ubuntu/libnotify, I hope I'll get an auto-import branch soon, so that I can properly bzrify that | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-ubuntuone-n-apis | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | that one is showing up | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | but | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-ubuntuone-n-shares-status-udfs | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | isn't | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | oh... maybe she isn't in the team... nm | 15:20 |
| pitti | kenvandine: presumably because she is only an indirect team member | 15:20 |
| kenvandine | yeah, so you have to be a direct member right? | 15:20 |
| pitti | the arm guys changed the code so that transitive members work as well | 15:21 |
| pitti | but I'm not sure how in particular | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | ok, i'll make sure they add all members directly | 15:21 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ah, add it to recursive_teams dict in natty.cfg | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | ok | 15:22 |
| pitti | kenvandine: r195 in lp:launchpad-work-items-tracker | 15:22 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ubuntu-geoip is gold | 15:24 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:24 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no comment from me, should I sponsor it? | 15:24 |
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| kenvandine | seb128, yes please | 15:24 |
| kenvandine | then i'll do the mir | 15:24 |
| kenvandine | pitti, i don't have write perms | 15:25 |
| pitti | kenvandine: sure; sudo -u platform -i | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | oh | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | thx | 15:26 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, oh, one comment, have a watch would be handy ;-) | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | oh... forgot that one :) | 15:27 |
| kenvandine | i'll add | 15:27 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok, in any case uploaded and wiki comment added for your application as well | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | ok, cool | 15:30 |
| kenvandine | wiki comment? | 15:30 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, to support your application | 15:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, so you can get proper upload rights ;-) | 15:31 |
| kenvandine | oh that... thx | 15:32 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:32 |
| seb128 | yw | 15:32 |
| seb128 | less work for me over time I'm sure ;-) | 15:32 |
| lamalex | TheMuso, seb128 can we possibly get at-spi2 into main? | 15:32 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:32 |
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| seb128 | lamalex, no objection from me, ideally it would become default this cycle, we just need a mir for it | 15:34 |
| lamalex | seb128, we may need it in unity depending on how I decide to to a11y | 15:35 |
| seb128 | lamalex, you should talk to TheMuso | 15:36 |
| seb128 | we need to settle on one at-spi version at some point | 15:36 |
| seb128 | we can't have both installed | 15:36 |
| lamalex | he's hard to talk to, being in Australia and all | 15:37 |
| lamalex | I emailed him this morning (my morning) | 15:37 |
| seb128 | lamalex, right, let's wait for him to reply to the email then | 15:38 |
| seb128 | lamalex, I think the plan of record was to try to get at-spi2 by default this cycle | 15:38 |
| lamalex | I mean, we should probably move to at-spi2 anyway | 15:38 |
| seb128 | not sure how testing etc is going though | 15:38 |
| seb128 | lamalex, right, TheMuso said at UDS he needed to make sure things work with it and that the speed issues are not a stopper or can be resolved | 15:39 |
| lamalex | yah | 15:39 |
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| mterry | seb128, whoops, sorry about launchpad-integration ftbfs. My bad on the last minute vala-0.12 -> vala change, didn't grep for other uses of vala-0.12. Prepping a new merge | 15:48 |
| didrocks | (we should do a rule, 1 FTBFS -> 1 beer at UDS/rally) | 15:49 |
| seb128 | mterry, no worry, if you didn't start fixing it yet don't bother I can do it | 15:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, stop drinking | 15:50 |
| mterry | :) | 15:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: I'm following nessita's advice :) | 15:51 |
| chrisccoulson | hey pitti. do you have time to process a removal? (bug 675587) :) | 15:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 675587 in pyxpcom (Ubuntu) "Please remove and blacklist pyxpcom from the archive (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/675587 | 15:52 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: that urgent? yes, can do | 15:52 |
| nessita | didrocks: what did I do? | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - it's not really urgent as such, but i'd like to not forget about it? :) | 15:52 |
| didrocks | nessita: just read two lines above my comment :) | 15:52 |
| seb128 | mterry, did you start on it or should I do it? it's a one liner I guess | 15:52 |
| mterry | seb128, I did | 15:53 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:53 |
| mterry | seb128, but it is a one-liner, easier for you to do than me to propose a merge | 15:53 |
| mterry | seb128, just change debian/liblaunchpad-integration-dev.install | 15:53 |
| nessita | didrocks: :-) | 15:53 |
| mterry | to not have the -0.12 suffix | 15:53 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, what I though, thanks | 15:53 |
| seb128 | will do that now | 15:53 |
| * nessita will messed up the desktop team with the drinking | 15:53 | |
| nessita | mess* | 15:54 |
| mterry | tedg, did you see the indicator-applet dbus merge? Not sure if you got my IRC ping last week | 15:55 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: done | 15:55 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - excellent, thanks | 15:55 |
| tedg | mterry, Yeah, I did. I hadn't had a chance to go through it though. | 15:56 |
| mterry | np | 15:56 |
| tedg | mterry, Is the new GNOME panel in the Maverick GNOME 3 PPA? | 15:56 |
| mterry | no rush, just didn't want it to get lost. not everyone seems to get merge emails | 15:56 |
| * tedg is worried about "going beta" early this cycle. | 15:56 | |
| mterry | tedg, the new panel is in natty | 15:57 |
| seb128 | tedg, no, we didn't start backporting the application stack and not sure we want | 15:57 |
| seb128 | it's quite some work to get right and we don't have cycles to waste | 15:57 |
| mterry | seb128, wait a sec on that change | 15:59 |
| seb128 | mterry, the lpi one? | 15:59 |
| kenvandine | seb128, ted made releases dbusmenu and libindicator for the gtk3 transition, what should be done with the packaging? soname bump and build-depends, anything else? | 15:59 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah... I did a build just to be sure, and it failed to find /usr/share/vala as well. something's odd | 15:59 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, I'm installing the build-depends I was lacking as well there | 16:00 |
| seb128 | been lazy the first time | 16:00 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, do they build both versions? | 16:01 |
| seb128 | or is that a new source? | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | i actually haven't looked at it yet, i assumed just for gtk3 | 16:02 |
| kenvandine | not new source | 16:02 |
| seb128 | ok, hold that off | 16:02 |
| kenvandine | tedg, ^^ | 16:02 |
| kenvandine | it is blocking all of tedg's other packages :) | 16:02 |
| seb128 | it's not going to trivial work | 16:02 |
| seb128 | to be trivial work | 16:02 |
| seb128 | why? | 16:02 |
| seb128 | tedg, there? | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | api changes, i guess... tedg ^^ | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | he didn't really explain, just that he couldn't do other releases until we got these done | 16:03 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the configure allows to select the gtk version at build time right? | 16:04 |
| seb128 | can we build with gtk2 for now? is that enough to unblock other tarballs? | 16:04 |
| kenvandine | i am grabbing the source now | 16:05 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:05 |
| tedg | seb128, There's a soname bump to get reserveds back. | 16:05 |
| seb128 | let me do that as well | 16:05 |
| tedg | We need the .pc files to start building the other libs on GTK3 | 16:05 |
| tedg | So I'd like to get the package sets figured out so that we can start building up the stack. | 16:05 |
| seb128 | ok, so you build both versions? | 16:06 |
| tedg | I don't, I thought packaging was going to do that. | 16:06 |
| seb128 | well, configure allows to specify which one to build? and they don't conflict? | 16:06 |
| tedg | So once with "configure --with-gtk=2" and once with "configure --with-gtk=3" | 16:06 |
| seb128 | like you namespaced the .pc .h etc | 16:06 |
| asac | Riddell: why do we have libqtwebkit 2.0 in maverick? i am told qt 4.7 came with 2.1 ? | 16:07 |
| seb128 | or directories | 16:07 |
| tedg | I think so, but it's really hard to verify :-/ | 16:07 |
| tedg | To be fair, mterry did all the work. | 16:07 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 16:07 |
| Riddell | asac: you're told wrong, Qt 4.7 came with QtWebKit 2.0, QtWebKit 2.1 is still in development | 16:07 |
| asac | heh nice | 16:07 |
| * mterry reads back | 16:08 | |
| kenvandine | doesn't seem to let you choose both | 16:08 |
| mterry | tedg, seb128, kenvandine: Yeah, for dbusmenu and friends, there are namespaced pc files and such. I did that stuff a while ago, though, so I'm hazy on details. But they are *supposed* to be dual-buildable | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | so we would have to do multiple passes | 16:08 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well, we need 2 builds one for each gtk | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | yeha | 16:09 |
| seb128 | similar to what mterry did for lpi | 16:09 |
| asac | Riddell: you are right ;) ... thanks | 16:09 |
| seb128 | launchpad-integration | 16:09 |
| * kenvandine remembers how much from that was with python-indicate | 16:09 | |
| seb128 | kenvandine, mterry, tedg: ok, the real question is: | 16:09 |
| kenvandine | s/from/fun | 16:09 |
| seb128 | - do we need to have all indicators on the same gtk version | 16:09 |
| seb128 | and | 16:09 |
| seb128 | - do we need to have the applet using the same gtk version than the indicators | 16:09 |
| kenvandine | i really hope the answer to number 2 is no | 16:10 |
| seb128 | ideally the reply to both would be no, but I guess really world is not like that ;-) | 16:10 |
| mterry | seb128, I remember tedg saying that all libindicate rdepends need to be ported at the same time (like, 2 or 3), but as long as libappindicate and such were dual-installable, indicators could be ported lazily | 16:10 |
| tedg | seb128, Yes, but we take care of that by making two directories. | 16:10 |
| tedg | XFCE applet will be GTK2, and Unity/indicator-applet will be GTK3. | 16:11 |
| tedg | So we'll need to dual build all of the indicator's .so | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | ok | 16:11 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm, if they are loaded in process, mixing GTK2 and 3 is buggy | 16:11 |
| tedg | Applications should be fine with libappindicator though. | 16:11 |
| tedg | They can choose which one, the only issue is the stuff we write. | 16:11 |
| * tedg loves his use of "only" there :) | 16:11 | |
| seb128 | tedg, well question 2 is the important one | 16:12 |
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| kenvandine | hehe | 16:12 |
| seb128 | tedg, I don't think we have a gtk3 applet yet and I'm not sure we will be able this cycle | 16:12 |
| mterry | seb128, (re: lpi, continue with that one-line change. I just had to autoreconf to make the change I did in lib/Makefile.am move to lib/Makefile.in) | 16:12 |
| seb128 | so can we keep the applet on gtk2? | 16:12 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok thanks | 16:13 |
| tedg | seb128, Well, I think that Unity will need to be GTK3.... | 16:13 |
| tedg | njpatel, ^ | 16:13 |
| kenvandine | tedg, but that isn't going to be an applet | 16:14 |
| njpatel | unity compiz plugin will be gtk3 | 16:14 |
| njpatel | but the panel service can be gtk2 or gtk3 | 16:14 |
| njpatel | (panel service actually loads the indicators) | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | i would think that could be gtk3 and indicator-applet still be gtk2 | 16:15 |
| tedg | kenvandine, Yes, we could. | 16:15 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well that means each indicator would have to be built twice | 16:15 |
| seb128 | one for unity and one for GNOME or xfce | 16:16 |
| tedg | I guess the question is: Do we need to have GTK3 indicator .so's? | 16:16 |
| tedg | If we're going to use the GNOME 3 panel, we do AFAIK | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | why? the indicators themselves don't depend on gtk do they? | 16:16 |
| tedg | kenvandine, The .so's do. | 16:16 |
| kenvandine | ugh | 16:16 |
| seb128 | tedg, vuntz said gnome-panel will be able to load gtk2 applets | 16:16 |
| seb128 | gtk2 and gtk3 | 16:16 |
| seb128 | he has a trick to make that work apparently | 16:17 |
| tedg | Is there going to be a libpanel for gtk2? | 16:17 |
| seb128 | I guess there will be one to make that work | 16:17 |
| dobey | i would imagine it would be an external process that used ~current libpanel-applet | 16:18 |
| seb128 | ok, so let's go back step by step | 16:18 |
| tedg | Ah, that would mean that indicator-applet would still link to Bonobo.... | 16:18 |
| seb128 | tedg, can we do the dbusmenu and libindicate update built with gtk2 to unblock other updates? | 16:18 |
| njpatel | seb128, why once for unity? | 16:19 |
| seb128 | like package the new version with gtk2 and get going? | 16:19 |
| tedg | seb128, No, really what I need is the package names etc. for the GTK3 migration. | 16:19 |
| seb128 | njpatel, well, "once for gtk3 loaders, once for gtk2 loaders" | 16:19 |
| tedg | seb128, We need to do GTK3 regardless for libappindicator. | 16:19 |
| seb128 | njpatel, what between unity, gnome-panel and xfce goes in each category is still not determined | 16:19 |
| tedg | seb128, Though, if we could figure out how to do the GTK2 everything -- I'm happy not doing libindicator. | 16:20 |
| njpatel | seb128, right, and just remember unity can be a gtk2 or a gtk3 loader, whatever makes your guy's life easier, as the thing that deals with it is it's own binary/daemon, outside of Unity plugin | 16:20 |
| seb128 | njpatel, ok, that's useful ;-) | 16:20 |
| seb128 | njpatel, thanks | 16:20 |
| * kenvandine hugs njpatel | 16:20 | |
| * kenvandine misses, falls on face | 16:21 | |
| seb128 | lol | 16:21 |
| seb128 | tedg, ok, so let's say we dual build gtk2 and gtk3 version for those | 16:21 |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:21 |
| seb128 | those being libdbusmenu libindicate | 16:21 |
| seb128 | tedg, can we not port any indicator to gtk3? | 16:21 |
| seb128 | libindicate -> libindicator | 16:22 |
| kenvandine | would we name the gtk3 build to dbusmenu-gtk3 ? | 16:22 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, we would name the binary to match the library | 16:22 |
| tedg | seb128, We don't have to port any indicator to GTK 3. The only reason to do it would be for the loaders. | 16:22 |
| seb128 | tedg, indicators no, applications using libindicator might go gtk3 | 16:23 |
| tedg | seb128, Correct. But that's different. | 16:23 |
| tedg | Applications only use libappindicator not libindicator | 16:23 |
| seb128 | ok, so for now I lean toward not porting any indicator | 16:23 |
| seb128 | so we just need a libappindicator dual build? | 16:23 |
| tedg | Yes, and that one requires libdbusmenu. | 16:24 |
| tedg | Oh, and libindicate needs to dual build as well. | 16:24 |
| seb128 | I'm fine adding dual build for those 3 | 16:24 |
| tedg | So *need* for applications: libappindicator, libindicate, libdbusmenu | 16:24 |
| seb128 | what I'm trying to understand is what we need to update up the stack once that's done | 16:24 |
| tedg | Need for loaders: libindicator, all the indicator-* packages | 16:25 |
| seb128 | or rather if we can not update things | 16:25 |
| rodrigo_ | if libappindicator is GTK2, can we link that one to GTK3 apps? I guess not | 16:25 |
| seb128 | tedg, the applications using libappindicators only do dbus right? | 16:25 |
| tedg | rodrigo_, No, because it'd pull in GTK2 and get symbol conflicts | 16:25 |
| rodrigo_ | right | 16:25 |
| seb128 | tedg, no direct gtk use that force them to be on the same gtk than the service? | 16:25 |
| tedg | seb128, Correct. | 16:26 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:26 |
| seb128 | so let's dual build those 3 libs and use them nowhere yet | 16:26 |
| seb128 | we will just use libappindicator on gtk3 when required | 16:26 |
| seb128 | but not port any indicator yet | 16:26 |
| seb128 | deal? | 16:26 |
| seb128 | tedg, ^ | 16:26 |
| tedg | Sounds fine to me. | 16:26 |
| seb128 | ok, let's start with that | 16:26 |
| seb128 | kenvandine do you feel like doing that? | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | i'll do it.... doesn't sound fun though :) | 16:27 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, start with dbusmenu and ping me for review once it's done | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 16:27 |
| seb128 | no it's not :-( | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | will do | 16:27 |
| seb128 | you can try to use mterry's work from launchpad-integration as inspiration for example | 16:27 |
| kenvandine | yeah, will do | 16:28 |
| mterry | I can't take credit from lpi's packaging work. I copied the dual-build logic already there for supporting multiple python versions | 16:28 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the binary name should just follow the library naming convention, I think mterry patches made things installable in parallel, so it's basically picking the name he picked for the libraries | 16:29 |
| seb128 | likely adding a "3" in the library name | 16:29 |
| * mterry does love adding 3 to things | 16:29 | |
| seb128 | ;-) | 16:29 |
| kenvandine | :) | 16:29 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you can switch to dh7 if you think it will make your life easier | 16:29 |
| mterry | tedg, did I add support for building a gir file? I don't think I did, but it would have been a neat thing to do | 16:29 |
| tedg | mterry, It already did, so I think it just made a versioned one. | 16:30 |
| mterry | hot! | 16:30 |
| mterry | that sounds familir | 16:30 |
| * kenvandine grabs some food, bbs | 16:30 | |
| pitti | seb128: libnotify4 fixes uploaded, FTR | 16:55 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I already added a comment on the whiteboard about the nautilus gsd depends | 17:02 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ah, sorry, didn't see it | 17:02 |
| seb128 | no worry | 17:02 |
| seb128 | I've been editing the whiteboard a lot today ;-) | 17:02 |
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| fta | seb128, chrisccoulson, i see "build webkit with gtk3", what about flash? | 17:32 |
| seb128 | ? | 17:32 |
| seb128 | it's for desktop applications | 17:32 |
| seb128 | empathy for example | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | does epiphany use it? | 17:33 |
| seb128 | well not now, the GNOME 3 version probably will | 17:34 |
| seb128 | fta, the work item is a "build binaries for both gtk2 and gtk3" | 17:34 |
| fta | for chrom*, upstream says they'll stick to gtk2 because of adobe flash | 17:35 |
| seb128 | fta, it doesn't imply on what applications will use what versions | 17:35 |
| seb128 | the gtk3 build will be useful for desktop softwares | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - doesn't chrome run flash out-of-process? | 17:35 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, yep, remains to be tested | 17:38 |
| ari-tczew | could someone from ubuntu desktop review my merge patch? bug 674908 | 17:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 674908 in meta-gnome2 (Ubuntu) "Merge meta-gnome2 1:2.30+6 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674908 | 17:38 |
| kklimonda | kenvandine: wrt to your problem with json-glib and not knowing the type of return json result - you can use JsonReader which will make it fairly easy to work around that. | 17:40 |
| kenvandine | kklimonda, yeah i hoped that was the case | 17:40 |
| kenvandine | i haven't looked at the API yet | 17:40 |
| kklimonda | kenvandine: you can do something like that: http://pastebin.com/W78U1nda | 17:40 |
| kklimonda | it's still not very high level and using JsonReader bloats your code a little (as you need two functions to get every value instead of one) but I think it's as good as it can get unless rodrigo_ thinks of something better :) | 17:43 |
| mterry | seb128, I have a gtksourceview3 package ready. Should review happen via NEW queue or somewhere else? | 17:59 |
| seb128 | NEW is fine | 17:59 |
| seb128 | I can review it before you upload if you want a first review | 17:59 |
| mterry | seb128, naw, thanks | 18:00 |
| mterry | seb128, I already pushed it once you said "NEW is fine" :) | 18:00 |
| seb128 | ok | 18:00 |
| seb128 | mterry, lpi failed to build on !i386 | 18:01 |
| seb128 | it's annoying because I've no clue why | 18:01 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/launchpad-integration/0.1.42 | 18:01 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, so upstream g-s-d gave in wrt. xrandr behaviour? nice :) | 18:02 |
| mterry | pitti, I just uploaded a gtksourceview3 to NEW for ya. But I just realized I made one change that debian may not make that would create a package name delta... So don't review it yet. Maybe I can talk to Debian guys and see what their naming scheme will be for 3.0 | 18:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, not really, different upstream decided it was better this way | 18:03 |
| seb128 | mterry, you can ask on #debian-gnome on oftc | 18:03 |
| pitti | mterry: okay; if that's going to take longer, want me to reject it for now, to avoid another archive admin picking it up? I know Riddell is very thorough in NEW review on Tuesdays | 18:03 |
| seb128 | mterry, I think I will just commit our gtk3 packages to their svn | 18:03 |
| seb128 | so they have a work basis and know what we do and can tweak over that if they want | 18:03 |
| mterry | pitti, OK, safer that way | 18:04 |
| mterry | seb128, OK, but still want to pass this by them 'in person' | 18:04 |
| * mterry hops on #debian-gnome | 18:04 | |
| pitti | mterry: ok, done; you can reupload unmodified (same version number etc.) if it turns out to be okay | 18:04 |
| seb128 | hum, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/59165700/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.gnome-settings-daemon_2.32.1-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 18:05 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ it's your bug :p | 18:06 |
| seb128 | (not sure to understand what's going on though) | 18:06 |
| pitti | didrocks, seb128: hm, what was the gnome 3 staging PPA again? I want to remove libnotify4 | 18:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/gnome3-builds | 18:06 |
| pitti | seb128: merci | 18:06 |
| seb128 | de rien | 18:06 |
| seb128 | ok, time for sport | 18:07 |
| seb128 | mterry, if you want to investigate the lpi build issue you are welcome | 18:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks, same for you | 18:07 |
| seb128 | on the gnome-settings-daemon one | 18:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: not today, but tomorrow | 18:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok, I might try to figure what is wrong as well | 18:08 |
| seb128 | gnome-update-wallpaper-cache.c:(.text+0x27): undefined reference to `gdk_init' | 18:08 |
| seb128 | but it has pkg-config --cflags --libs glib-2.0 gdk-2.0 | 18:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: i'm about living, I'm fed up with the /opt hack :) | 18:08 |
| didrocks | side effects and such… | 18:08 |
| seb128 | I'm about to go for sport | 18:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, enjoy your evening | 18:08 |
| chrisccoulson | you might get a new firefox version in the archive this evening :) | 18:09 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks, you too :) | 18:09 |
| mterry | seb128, I can look at failure after I eat some lunch | 18:11 |
| pitti | good night everyone! taekwondo time | 18:12 |
| seb128 | 'night pitti | 18:12 |
| seb128 | time for swimming there | 18:12 |
| didrocks | good night everyone, sport and then will work a little offline :) | 18:20 |
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| doctormo | bryceh: ping | 19:50 |
| sense | Isn't 'libgnome2-perl' needed to make Debconf run with a GTK+ GUI? If so, why then was it removed from the desktop seed in natty? | 19:53 |
| kklimonda | kenvandine: actually JsonReader have json_reader_is_array and json_reader_is_object | 19:59 |
| kklimonda | and I'm getting a headache from looking at all this Json stuff already.. | 19:59 |
| kklimonda | rodrigo_: ping :) | 20:00 |
| kenvandine | kklimonda, hehe | 20:03 |
| doctormo | Can anyone remember the ubuntu irc channel for xorg? got some questions. | 20:58 |
| chrisccoulson | doctormo, #ubuntu-x ? | 20:59 |
| doctormo | thanks chrisccoulson | 21:01 |
| kenvandine | hey robert_ancell | 21:30 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, hey | 21:30 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, how has the gwibber stuff gone? I noticed some new packaging in lucid | 21:31 |
| robert_ancell | natty rather | 21:31 |
| kenvandine | i think great, split into plugins | 21:31 |
| kenvandine | also think we fixed the facebook problems | 21:32 |
| kenvandine | just need to get that update out to everyone | 21:32 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, can you look at the gnome-screensaver package - I'm not sure if all your patches went upstream | 21:32 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, so what was the fb problem? | 21:32 |
| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, yeah, can do, once ff-4.0 is uploaded :) | 21:32 |
| kenvandine | allocation is API requests + DB queries | 21:32 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, heh, of course! | 21:33 |
| kenvandine | so one of our API requests, which had some nested FQL queries, ended up making 266 million DB queries per day | 21:33 |
| kenvandine | which is what i have been asking since the beginning, do db queries count in the allocation | 21:33 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, hey | 21:34 |
| kenvandine | when you say "API Requests", it sounds like http calls to facebook | 21:34 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, hey | 21:34 |
| kenvandine | not how many db queries it ends up being under the covers :) | 21:34 |
| robert_ancell | kenvandine, yes, exactly. So was there a cheaper API call to use? | 21:34 |
| kenvandine | i was able to drop it complete | 21:35 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, how are you? | 21:35 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, did you receive my emails last week? | 21:35 |
| kenvandine | because i had just fixed a bug 2 weeks ago, that made that request useless | 21:35 |
| ubot2 | kenvandine: Error: Bug #2 not found. | 21:35 |
| kenvandine | haha | 21:36 |
| kenvandine | there is no bug #2? | 21:36 |
| ubot2 | kenvandine: Error: Bug #2 not found. | 21:36 |
| kenvandine | :) | 21:36 |
| kenvandine | robert_ancell, so i just had to back port that fix to lucid and maverick plus drop the api call | 21:36 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, the libdmapsharing and remmina one? | 21:37 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, yes | 21:37 |
| robert_ancell | hmm, they're there but I seem to have skipped over them. I'll reply now | 21:38 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, the vinagre and applet one as well | 21:38 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ok ;-) | 21:38 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, btw you updated nautilus, I guess it can't load .so using gtk2? | 21:39 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I've updated the gnome3 spec a lot today | 21:39 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, did you get a reply from debian about the GTK3 packaging naming? | 21:39 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, ah, I was suprised that the standard plugins worked with nautilus, which one are you talking about? | 21:39 |
| ari-tczew | hello robert_ancell ! I prepared a first merge to review: bug 674908 . are you able to take a look? | 21:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 674908 in meta-gnome2 (Ubuntu) "Merge meta-gnome2 1:2.30+6 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 1422)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674908 | 21:40 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I didn't check the upgrade yet, but things like gdu | 21:40 |
| seb128 | or file-roller | 21:40 |
| seb128 | hum, need to restart my session, brb | 21:40 |
| seb128 | re | 21:44 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I couldn't find anything not working with file-roller | 21:44 |
| seb128 | sorry got some issues | 21:44 |
| seb128 | ok, so it loads the .so? | 21:44 |
| seb128 | like right menu on a tar.gz has an extract there? | 21:45 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, afaict, but it may be silently not doing so | 21:45 |
| seb128 | or right click on a drive icon as a format entry | 21:45 |
| seb128 | has | 21:45 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, compress shows | 21:45 |
| seb128 | ok great | 21:45 |
| robert_ancell | (and opens the dialog) | 21:45 |
| robert_ancell | it must just be a separate app that shares window id | 21:45 |
| seb128 | nautilus is using gtk3 right? | 21:46 |
| robert_ancell | yes | 21:46 |
| seb128 | you have the "send to"... working as well? | 21:46 |
| seb128 | it will make things easier that I though then | 21:46 |
| seb128 | so we don't have to upgrade all those with nautilus | 21:47 |
| robert_ancell | yeah | 21:47 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering if the other way around works as well, I will give it a try tomorrow | 21:47 |
| seb128 | loading gtk3 .so with the current nautilus | 21:47 |
| seb128 | I guess it will not work that great this way | 21:47 |
| robert_ancell | why not? It the plugin system doesn't share binary GTK+ info then it should work just as well | 21:48 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, right, if they didn't change the interface it should work | 21:51 |
| rodrigo_ | robert_ancell, chrisccoulson: I have been rebasing the g-screensaver patches today | 22:07 |
| rodrigo_ | and pinging mccann about some others | 22:08 |
| robert_ancell | rodrigo_, cool, thansk | 22:08 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 22:08 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, the problem, afaik, is if GTK2 and GTK3 are loaded on the same process | 22:09 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, right, I didn't check what nautilus does | 22:10 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I though it would dlopen the .so | 22:10 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, which is in the same process | 22:10 |
| seb128 | well that wouldn't work then | 22:10 |
| rodrigo_ | afaik, it compiles now with GTK3, so all plugins would need to be GTK3 | 22:10 |
| seb128 | but it does work so they must do it differently ;-) | 22:10 |
| rodrigo_ | ah | 22:10 |
| rodrigo_ | they work? | 22:10 |
| seb128 | well robert_ancell says they work | 22:10 |
| rodrigo_ | and is the nautilus package in the PPA compiled with GTK3? | 22:11 |
| seb128 | he can compress files from the context menu etc | 22:11 |
| seb128 | yes, it's 2.91 | 22:11 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm | 22:11 |
| robert_ancell | rodrigo_, yes, been using the PPA version for a few days, haven't seen any problems | 22:12 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, what naming did I say I would check? | 22:12 |
| seb128 | sorry I dropped that one on the way I think | 22:12 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, it was libgnomekbd, but generally I think we need to know what to name the gtk3 versions of libraries | 22:13 |
| seb128 | right, we try | 22:13 |
| seb128 | mterry just checked for the update he did today on #debian-gnome | 22:13 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, libgnomekbd I don't think we need to rename | 22:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, did you read my comments on the bug about it? | 22:14 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I've the feeling sometime you don't read comments from bugs you are subscribed to ;-) | 22:14 |
| robert_ancell | no, I did read them. it's been put in the PPA, but the naming hasn't been resolved. Why do you think it will work with both GTK2 and 3 apps? | 22:15 |
| seb128 | it will not | 22:15 |
| robert_ancell | oh, I see your suggested names there. But will Debian do the same? | 22:16 |
| seb128 | but as said on the bug they didn't version the files | 22:16 |
| robert_ancell | right | 22:16 |
| seb128 | well I decided against | 22:16 |
| seb128 | the number of rdepends is 3 | 22:17 |
| seb128 | we just need to update g-s-d g-c-c and g-s together | 22:17 |
| seb128 | we did need to update g-s-d and g-c-c together anyway | 22:17 |
| seb128 | so it's just adding g-s and the libgnomekbd update to the list | 22:17 |
| seb128 | which should not be an issue | 22:17 |
| robert_ancell | ah, ok. I thought there were more things that used it | 22:17 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, well, apt-cache rdepends suggests not | 22:18 |
| rodrigo_ | g-s package will come soon, although it's taking longer, since the 2.91.0 release doesn't compile with gnome-desktop-3 | 22:19 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I've written that in the gnome3 blueprint whiteboard btw, I keep taking notes there | 22:19 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok great | 22:19 |
| seb128 | 'night | 22:43 |
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