[04:16] <Chaos_Zero> ey
[04:16] <Chaos_Zero> cj
[04:16] <Chaos_Zero> me again
[04:18] <Chaos_Zero> well if you happen to come back, i want to tell you that it worked and i can see the harddrive so thanks.
[04:18] <Chaos_Zero> also, is their a version you can download so the computer that you are installing it onto does not need internet connection?
[04:19] <Chaos_Zero> and finally, i know you asked me to report something yesterday but i forgot
[04:19] <Chaos_Zero> yeah i know im talking to no one
[10:03] <CIA-4> main-menu: cjwatson * r143 ubuntu/ (17 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.33
[10:04] <CIA-4> main-menu: cjwatson * r144 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.33ubuntu1
[10:07] <CIA-4> base-installer: cjwatson * r410 ubuntu/ (70 files in 4 dirs): merge from Debian 1.114
[10:08] <CIA-4> base-installer: cjwatson * r411 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.114ubuntu1
[10:12] <CIA-4> apt-setup: cjwatson * r203 ubuntu/debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 1:0.49
[10:13] <CIA-4> apt-setup: cjwatson * r204 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1:0.49ubuntu1
[10:15] <CIA-4> cdrom-checker: cjwatson * r254 ubuntu/debian/ (po/is.po changelog po/bn.po po/ca.po po/zh_TW.po): merge from Debian 1.19
[10:16] <CIA-4> cdrom-checker: cjwatson * r255 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.19ubuntu1
[10:24] <CIA-4> cdrom-detect: cjwatson * r467 ubuntu/debian/ (6 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 1.36
[10:26] <CIA-4> cdrom-detect: cjwatson * r468 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.36ubuntu1
[10:30] <CIA-4> choose-mirror: cjwatson * r645 ubuntu/debian/ (70 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 2.36
[10:32] <CIA-4> choose-mirror: cjwatson * r646 ubuntu/Mirrors.masterlist: update Mirrors.masterlist to Debian 2.36
[10:33] <CIA-4> choose-mirror: cjwatson * r647 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.36ubuntu1
[10:36] <CIA-4> clock-setup: cjwatson * r221 ubuntu/ (7 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 0.105
[10:37] <CIA-4> clock-setup: cjwatson * r222 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.105ubuntu1
[10:38] <CIA-4> finish-install: cjwatson * r840 ubuntu/ (6 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 2.27
[10:40] <CIA-4> finish-install: cjwatson * r841 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.27ubuntu1
[10:44] <CIA-4> hw-detect: cjwatson * r148 ubuntu/ (7 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.81
[10:45] <CIA-4> hw-detect: cjwatson * r149 ubuntu/debian/po/is.po: msgmerge
[10:46] <CIA-4> hw-detect: cjwatson * r150 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.81ubuntu1
[10:47] <CIA-4> iso-scan: cjwatson * r274 ubuntu/debian/ (14 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 1.30
[10:48] <CIA-4> iso-scan: cjwatson * r275 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.30ubuntu1
[10:50] <CIA-4> lilo-installer: cjwatson * r443 ubuntu/debian/ (13 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 1.33
[10:51] <CIA-4> lilo-installer: cjwatson * r444 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.33ubuntu1
[10:51] <CIA-4> net-retriever: cjwatson * r365 ubuntu/debian/ (12 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 1.26
[10:52] <CIA-4> net-retriever: cjwatson * r366 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.26ubuntu1
[10:54] <CIA-4> netcfg: cjwatson * r644 ubuntu/ (12 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.57
[10:55] <CIA-4> netcfg: cjwatson * r645 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.57ubuntu1
[10:56] <CIA-4> partman-base: cjwatson * r219 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog po/bn.po): merge from Debian 146
[10:57] <CIA-4> partman-base: cjwatson * r220 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 146ubuntu1
[10:58] <CIA-4> partman-basicfilesystems: cjwatson * r593 ubuntu/debian/ (21 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 68
[10:59] <CIA-4> partman-basicfilesystems: cjwatson * r594 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 68ubuntu1
[11:00] <CIA-4> partman-ext3: cjwatson * r770 ubuntu/debian/ (12 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 61
[11:01] <CIA-4> partman-ext3: cjwatson * r771 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 61ubuntu1
[11:02] <CIA-4> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r730 ubuntu/debian/ (8 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 78
[11:03] <CIA-4> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r731 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 78ubuntu1
[11:04] <CIA-4> partman-target: cjwatson * r800 ubuntu/debian/ (11 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 70
[11:06] <CIA-4> partman-target: cjwatson * r801 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 70ubuntu1
[11:11] <CIA-4> yaboot-installer: cjwatson * r272 ubuntu/debian/ (15 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 1.1.18
[11:12] <CIA-4> yaboot-installer: cjwatson * r273 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.1.18ubuntu1
[11:18] <CIA-4> pkgsel: cjwatson * r168 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog po/bn.po): merge from Debian 0.32
[11:18] <CIA-4> pkgsel: cjwatson * r169 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.32ubuntu1
[11:20] <CIA-4> partman-efi: cjwatson * r655 ubuntu/debian/ (15 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 22
[11:22] <CIA-4> partman-efi: cjwatson * r656 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 22ubuntu1
[11:31] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r871 ubuntu/ (8 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.56
[11:33] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r872 ubuntu/debian/po/is.po: msgmerge
[11:37] <CIA-4> grub-installer: cjwatson * r873 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.56ubuntu1
[11:49] <CIA-4> net-retriever: cjwatson * r367 ubuntu/ (Makefile debian/changelog): Fix vergt link line ordering.
[11:50] <CIA-4> net-retriever: cjwatson * r368 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.26ubuntu2
[11:53] <CIA-4> partman-base: cjwatson * r221 ubuntu/ (Makefile debian/changelog): Fix link line ordering to avoid breaking with 'ld --as-needed'.
[12:04] <CIA-4> netcfg: cjwatson * r646 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog netcfg-common.c):
[12:04] <CIA-4> netcfg: Temporarily include <linux/if.h> rather than <net/if.h> on Linux, to
[12:04] <CIA-4> netcfg: work around LP #673073.
[12:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 673073 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "<net/if.h> and <linux/if.h> are incompatible (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673073
[12:04] <CIA-4> netcfg: cjwatson * r647 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.57ubuntu2
[12:06] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4434 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/plugininstall.py):
[12:06] <CIA-4> ubiquity: Remove 'localhost' from default ::1 line in /etc/hosts (see netcfg 1.57,
[12:06] <CIA-4> ubiquity: Debian #595107).
[12:06] <ubot2> Debian bug 595107 in netcfg "netcfg (debian-installer): /etc/hosts makes iceweasel-3.6.8 sluggish and has trouble handling localhost" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/595107
[12:18] <CIA-4> partman-crypto: cjwatson * r706 ubuntu/debian/ (17 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 45
[12:19] <CIA-4> partman-crypto: cjwatson * r707 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 45ubuntu1
[12:54] <CIA-4> partman-auto-lvm: cjwatson * r236 ubuntu/debian/ (po/is.po changelog po/bn.po po/ca.po po/zh_TW.po): merge from Debian 37
[12:59] <CIA-4> partman-auto-lvm: cjwatson * r237 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 37ubuntu1
[13:06] <CIA-4> partman-auto-raid: cjwatson * r183 ubuntu/debian/ (13 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 17
[13:07] <CIA-4> partman-auto-raid: cjwatson * r184 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 17ubuntu1
[13:12] <CIA-4> partman-crypto: cjwatson * r708 ubuntu/ (blockdev-wipe/blockdev-wipe.c debian/changelog): Include <sys/mount.h> for BLKGETSIZE rather than <linux/fs.h>.
[13:14] <CIA-4> partman-crypto: cjwatson * r709 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 45ubuntu2
[16:49] <shtylman> some serious sadness happened when I tried to install onto my dmraid disk setup this weekend... /boot was etc4 and / was btrfs
[16:50] <shtylman> my thinking is that after the system booted it didn't have btrfs things loaded and could not find / cause /dev/mapper/..etc didn't exist
[16:50] <shtylman> I am thinking to just put /boot on another drive, undo the dmraid thing, and just use btrfs built in raid
[16:54] <Primedeath> Anyone know if there's a way to create a USB installation of 10.10 in Windows?
[16:56]  * holstein uses http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[16:57] <Primedeath> Persistent?
[16:57] <holstein> im sure there is a way
[16:58] <holstein> you could also use a live CD
[16:58] <holstein> and install to a USB drive
[16:58] <Primedeath> Don't have a CD. >_<
[16:58] <holstein> BEING catious of where grub is installing
[16:58] <Primedeath> I am on the school computers at the moment, volunteering, and I am getting annoyed by having to reinstall everything.
[16:59] <holstein> try checking out http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[16:59] <holstein> all the options
[17:00] <davmor2> Primedeath: Ah your limited then, I was going to suggest an iso mounter
[17:00] <Primedeath> Hmmm.
[17:00] <Primedeath> There is one computer without DeepFreeze enabled.
[17:01] <holstein> AFAIK you can make USB sticks from the live CD
[17:01] <holstein> maybe you can just go to another box for a bit
[17:01] <holstein> and boot a CD
[17:04] <Primedeath> Bah.
[17:04] <Primedeath> Back.
[17:06] <Primedeath> If only I could remove Deep Freeze on this computer.
[17:09] <Primedeath> So, hm... If only I had another USB Drive.
[17:10] <cjwatson> there's a usb-creator.exe on the image
[17:10] <cjwatson> hm, maybe there isn't.  there used to be
[17:11] <davmor2> cjwatson: I couldn't see it on natty iso is there a ppa or something with it in though?
[17:11] <cjwatson> doubt it.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick has some helpful links
[17:11] <cjwatson> I suspect it was broken
[17:14] <Primedeath> There are installers for older versions of Ubuntu, I just want the latest version. Heh.
[17:21] <Primedeath> Yawn.
[17:23] <CIA-4> console-setup: cjwatson * r156 ubuntu/debian/ (3 files):
[17:23] <CIA-4> console-setup: Exit cleanly from initramfs hook if /etc/default/console-setup doesn't
[17:23] <CIA-4> console-setup: exist for some reason (LP: #634402).
[17:33] <cjwatson> actually, the 10.10 desktop CD has usb-creator.exe on it
[17:34] <cjwatson> ev: could you arrange for http://people.canonical.com/~evand/usb-creator/natty/ to exist?  that's the only reason usb-creator isn't on natty CDs
[17:35] <cjwatson> Primedeath: you should find usb-creator.exe in the root of the 10.10 CD filesystem.  Try it
[17:38] <superm1> cjwatson, are you sure that reading the amount of ram from /sys/firmware/memmap/* gets an accurate number?  just as a quick test on my box: http://paste.ubuntu.com/532475/
[17:39] <cjwatson> superm1: should come straight from DMI
[17:39] <superm1> and to confuse things further, the old dmi-available-memory binary is getting a different number too
[17:39] <superm1> $ sudo ./usr/lib/base-installer/dmi-available-memory
[17:39] <superm1> 4194304
[17:40] <cjwatson> what should the number be on that system?
[17:40] <superm1> lemme reboot and double check from the firmware.  i think 4 gigs
[17:40] <cjwatson> MemTotal in /proc/meminfo isn't authoritative
[17:40] <cjwatson> that's just how much memory the kernel can currently manage to use
[17:45] <superm1> looks like 2 2gig dims, firmware says 4096 MB installed and 3960 MB available
[17:46] <cjwatson> the number from memmap seems plausible then
[17:46] <cjwatson> only interested in the available count
[17:46] <superm1> it's a factor of a gig too large though isn't it?
[17:47] <cjwatson> oh, I misread your test script
[17:47] <superm1> i just snipped it out of partman-auto or so
[17:47] <cjwatson> can I have a tarball of /sys/firmware/memmap
[17:47] <cjwatson> ?
[17:47] <superm1> sure
[17:49] <superm1> http://people.ubuntu.com/~superm1/memmap.tar.gz
[17:53] <cjwatson> ah, ok, bug in that it fails to subtract the start address
[17:53] <cjwatson> actually, well, sort of
[17:54] <cjwatson> I copied that from base-installer, whose test is simply "is there RAM above 4GB?"
[17:54] <cjwatson> and in your case there is - but the partman-auto test needs to be subtler because it actually needs to know how much, minus holes
[17:54] <cjwatson> could you file a bug on partman-auto and attach that memmap.tar.gz?  thanks
[17:54] <superm1> sure
[17:58] <Primedeath> Apparently Universal USB Installer has a Persistent file it can make3.
[17:58] <Primedeath> Going to have to try it.
[17:58] <cjwatson> superm1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/532491/ should be better
[17:58] <cjwatson> but I have to run now
[17:58] <Primedeath> PenDriveLinux that is.
[18:00] <superm1> cjwatson, yeah that gets it a lot better.  shows as 4150 for that
[18:01] <cjwatson> and remember that's decimal megabytes
[18:01] <cjwatson> the raw number that gives is 4150219776 bytes, which is 3958 * 1024 * 1024
[18:01] <superm1> oh right, so yeah that's dead on
[18:02] <cjwatson> (decimal because of disk manufacturers' marketing tricks)
[18:02] <superm1> awesome,
[18:02] <superm1> thanks