[00:22] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1197477 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)
[00:22] <CIA-42> Several improvements to ScreenShotViewer: - Only allow one dialog to be open at
[00:22] <CIA-42> a time, to protect against accidental multiple clicks - Set the busy cursor
[00:27] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1197478 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationDetailsView/ (ApplicationDetailsWidget.cpp ApplicationDetailsWidget.h) Memory management++
[00:28] <CIA-42> [muon] jmthomas * 1197479 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ScreenShotViewer.cpp SVN_SILENT: Tweak padding
[08:49] <apachelogger> Riddell: either qoauth is unmaintained or upstream doesnt like me or his mail address in the copyright is dated
[09:42] <Riddell> apachelogger: hmm, I thought qoauth was quite recently written
[09:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: that does not mean it cannot be unmaintained ;)
[09:45] <apachelogger> ubuntuone-kde also was quite recently written :P
[09:45] <Riddell> right enough
[09:59] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBHONx9vTtI
[10:07] <Riddell> uh oh, random youtube leak
[10:15] <apachelogger> better than talking binary I suppose ;)
[10:15] <apachelogger> that said...
[10:17] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/binaryirc.c
[10:18] <apachelogger> in case it should happen again, this bugger will decode it ;)
[10:42] <Riddell> Friday 16:00 for meeting I think
[10:43] <maco> 1600 utc?
[10:44] <al> apachelogger, hmm, perl -pe 's/[01]{7,8} ?/pack("B8", $&)/ge;'
[10:47] <Riddell> maco: yes
[10:47] <apachelogger> al: perl is being removed from you bun too
[10:47] <apachelogger> do not use legacy software :P
[10:53] <al> haha
[10:53] <al> (you *are* kidding, right?)
[10:54] <apachelogger> nope
[10:58] <alvin> apachelogger: Any source for that?
[11:00] <apachelogger> some UDS spec
[11:01] <Sput> so when are they going to remove gnome?
[11:01] <apachelogger> in the quest for getting more space on the CD they are removing stuff that is not absolutely necessary
[11:01] <Sput> can't get much more legacy then that :P
[11:01] <apachelogger> such as perl, which is only used by like 5 scripts on the CD or so
[11:02] <apachelogger> Sput: I was thinking that they would announce it at UDS (going with unity to qt and all), but they didnt :(
[11:02] <apachelogger> surely it is only a matter of time though
[11:02] <alvin> Ah, on the cd. Like they did with aptitude and gimp. As long as it's in main, there's no need to worry.
[11:06] <hrw> apachelogger: unity and qt?
[11:11] <apachelogger> sure
[11:12] <al> is python on the CD?
[11:12] <apachelogger> python>perl
[11:12] <al> in file size?
[11:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: the timeanddate link you posted is for 2010-12-19...
[11:13] <apachelogger> al: in relevancy to you bun too
[11:14] <Riddell> apachelogger: doh
[11:29]  * ulysses hates copyright
[12:23] <Riddell> ScottK: so the patch might fix the compile failure of Qt on ARM but there's now another problem?
[12:56] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  gcc regression. Bug #675347
[12:58] <ScottK> apachelogger: Qt compiled in less than 12 hours.
[12:58] <ScottK> (4 minutes less)
[12:58] <ScottK> So that's cut the time half.
[12:58] <ScottK> Very impressive..
[12:59] <ScottK> Riddell: It built with the patch.  Now I want to build something with that Qt.  If that works, then I'll call it good.
[13:00]  * apachelogger doesn't have a good feeling about today's calculus exam :S
[13:00] <apachelogger> ScottK: only :O
[13:00] <apachelogger> there is bound to be improvement possible
[13:00] <apachelogger> ...say add a 4th machine ;)
[13:00] <shadeslayer> Quintasan_: apport hooks were done by yofel
[13:00] <ScottK> Considering much of the time is spent on things that aren't ice creamable, I think it's very good.
[13:00] <ScottK> apachelogger: Yes.  Just a matter of needing time to do it.
[13:00] <apachelogger> hm
[13:01] <apachelogger> here is a thought... have i386 do the build but distribute the jobs to arm ^^
[13:01] <apachelogger> then linking and stuff probably would be even faster
[13:03] <Riddell> ScottK: so we need to revert the change to gcc and add the patch to Qt?
[13:10] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.
[13:11] <hrw> apachelogger: in next months launchpad will get several pandaboards for build farm
[13:12] <hrw> so armel builds will go faster
[13:12] <apachelogger> and who again does not get one ... apachelogger ...
[13:12] <apachelogger> this world is very cruel to me
[13:12] <apachelogger> no ideapads, no n900s, no pandas...
[13:16] <apachelogger> hrw: anyhow, surely the buildds will still not be able to build Qt in 12 hours :P
[13:17] <hrw> world is cruel... no ideapad here as well
[13:17] <hrw> btw - what is ideapad?
[13:18] <shadeslayer> ...
[13:18] <apachelogger> some small thinkpad IIRC
[13:18] <apachelogger> sorta netbookish I suppose
[13:18] <hrw> ah.. lenovo netbook with atom...
[13:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you have a ARM processor on you phone!
[13:19] <shadeslayer> go use adb and compile stuff
[13:19] <shadeslayer> p.u.c had a nice post 
[13:19] <apachelogger> what would the point of this be?
[13:19] <alvin> Well, perl is preinstalled on the N900 ;-)
[13:20] <apachelogger> legacy perl for legacy N900, makes sense
[13:21] <alvin> One should not mock perl (and there's nothing legacy about the N900. The built-in GPS software is worthless, but come on, the machine has a command line! What more do you want?)
[13:22] <apachelogger> http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities/?pkg.set=kubuntu that is a lot of opportunities right there...
[13:22]  * shadeslayer runs
[13:22] <apachelogger> alvin: ask you bun too, perl is legacy!!!!
[13:22] <apachelogger> even if DarkwingDuck says otherwise
[13:24] <alvin> I use perl extensively, but I do miss Qt4 bindings.
[13:25] <ScottK> Riddell: Here's the arm patch: http://pastebin.com/66R907FK - Also need to revert the export of implicit-it=thumb in debian rules.
[13:26] <Riddell> ScottK: ok I'll do that before I upload
[13:26] <Riddell> having fun with qtwebkit today, it seems to have gained support for three different build systems
[13:26] <ScottK> Please be sure to credit the guy that wrote it in the changelog
[13:26] <ScottK> Nice.
[13:26] <ScottK> The guy that did the patch is a Linaro guy and I want to make sure he feels good about the contribution.
[13:27] <apachelogger> alvin: I dare you to port perlqt to qt4
[13:27] <ScottK> apachelogger: Didn't someone do that already?
[13:27] <alvin> apachelogger: It's already in progress, yes
[13:27] <apachelogger> I wouldnt know
[13:27] <apachelogger> perl is legacy so I have little interest :P
[13:27] <apachelogger> probably c# is the future
[13:27] <alvin> This is the project http://search.cpan.org/~cburel/Qt4-0.60_b1/lib/Qt4.pm
[13:27] <hrw> ScottK: nice. can you share source package?
[13:28] <ScottK> hrw: In a few hours.  Yes.
[13:28] <hrw> thx
[13:28] <apachelogger> that said... you bun too is dropping all sorts of stuff to gain space and yet they effort having mono on the CD, do they not?
[13:28] <hrw> will give some work for panda
[13:28] <ScottK> apachelogger: it's been there for quite a while.
[13:28] <apachelogger> alvin: I dare you to contribute to that project
[13:28] <apachelogger> ScottK: changelogs were there long before :P
[13:29] <ScottK> True
[13:29] <alvin> apachelogger: Maybe it only needs a debian package to be finished :-)
[13:29] <ScottK> We'll get more space though and the change won't be our fault, so not so bad.
[13:31] <shadeslayer> we should kick amarok for depending on glib.....
[13:31] <shadeslayer> and anything else that deps on glib
[13:31] <shadeslayer> Qt is the future 
[13:32] <apachelogger> Qt uses glib
[13:32] <apachelogger> ...
[13:33] <apachelogger> or as you would put it ... 01100111 01101100 01101001 01100010 00100000 00111100 00110011
[13:33] <shadeslayer> we need better toolkits -.-
[13:34] <Riddell> it's gtk that amarok depends on which is annoying (via libgpod)
[13:34] <apachelogger> Tk!
[13:34] <apachelogger> Riddell: so does the [libre,open]office
[13:34] <apachelogger> or does it not anymore?
[13:35]  * apachelogger feels dirty from all that g* talk and feels like taking a shower
[13:36] <Riddell> yes, that too
[13:42] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[13:48] <apachelogger> ah!
[13:48] <apachelogger> maco: I remember the particular push button situation from UDS
[13:48] <apachelogger> now I do not argue the push button states
[13:49] <apachelogger> we were merly suggesting to not use a push button for that use case at all
[13:51] <apachelogger> oh dear
[13:51] <apachelogger> surveymonkey is not doing the working in rekonq
[13:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: !!!
[13:51] <shadeslayer> whaa....
[13:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: test case
[13:52] <shadeslayer> it opens up fine here....
[13:52] <apachelogger> the surveys do not work!!
[13:52] <apachelogger> ticking stuff does not do not ticky sign
[13:53] <shadeslayer> i dont have a form i can tick :P
[13:53] <apachelogger> eh
[13:54] <apachelogger> did you not get a uds survey at some point?
[13:54] <shadeslayer> ah that one
[13:54] <shadeslayer> i think i filled that one out in chromium
[13:55] <apachelogger> ...
[13:55] <apachelogger> even the rekonq dev uses a working browser
[13:56] <shadeslayer> i cant open the form again :P
[13:57] <apachelogger> create your own survey
[13:57] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: what's wrong with kdesupport?
[13:57] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: eh?
[13:58] <Quintasan> kdebindings cant find automoc4 and claims it is a part of kdesupport
[14:00] <shadeslayer> bah
[14:00] <apachelogger> no it isnt?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you are right, but imo its webkits fault
[14:00] <Quintasan> tell that to kdebindings
[14:01] <apachelogger> http://gitweb.kde.org/automoc.git
[14:01] <shadeslayer> whoa
[14:01] <shadeslayer> hold on
[14:01] <Quintasan> CMake Error at /opt/project-neon/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:198 (MESSAGE):
[14:01] <Quintasan>   Did not find automoc4 (Automoc4Config.cmake, part of kdesupport).
[14:01] <Quintasan> wutz
[14:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i made it work once
[14:01] <apachelogger> ehm
[14:01] <shadeslayer> ah see theres a sweet spot there
[14:01] <apachelogger> Quintasan: there is a difference between part of kdesupport and part of kdesupport's source
[14:01] <apachelogger> ...
[14:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://imagebin.ca/view/zNh66q.html
[14:02] <apachelogger> https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/automoc
[14:02] <apachelogger> there
[14:02] <apachelogger> part of kdesupport
[14:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what sort of madness is this?
[14:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: click on the area between the grey button and the white button on the top
[14:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: kdewebkit madness ....
[14:03] <apachelogger> I did it otherwheres meanwhile
[14:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: please report a bug to whatever of your upstreams is at fault
[14:03]  * apachelogger packs his bag for calculus
[14:10] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: care to do do git builds of automoc or we will use the one from repos?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: will look at them tonight after im done with some other stuff first
[14:39] <ScottK> hrw: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/qt4-x11_4.7.0-0ubuntu9.dsc - Assuming you have the orig.tar.gz, you should be able to just dget that.
[14:39] <hrw> thx
[14:39] <hrw> tar.gz is not a problem - my apt-cacher-ng should have it
[14:39] <ScottK> You'll need to make sure not to use the current gcc-4.5 in Natty due to Bug #675347
[14:40] <hrw> ok
[15:22]  * Riddell high fives ScottK 
[15:23] <Riddell> awesome, point releases can now go in -updates
[15:26] <Tm_T> oh, so we do not need ppa for stable KDE releases? that means PPC binaries! <3
[15:29] <ScottK> It does.
[15:29] <Tm_T> very good from that point too then
[15:29] <Tm_T> but also, very good we can provide stable releases neatly
[15:39] <ScottK> Sent mail to the mail list.
[15:40] <ScottK> Riddell: I think it was Jon the Taco that had tracked testing of 4.4.5 for Lucid and thought it was ready.  Once he's around, we ought to see if we can get that one moving.
[15:42] <Riddell> ScottK: we start tracking 4.5.3 in maverick too presumably?
[15:43] <ScottK> Yes, but AIUI, 4.4.5 is ~ready.
[15:43] <Riddell> yes
[15:43] <ScottK> 4.4.5/7 I should say ....
[15:56] <ScottK> apachelogger: I got proper ice cream from a logged in chroot with running the hook by hand and exporting the items you mention in comments.
[15:56] <ScottK> apachelogger: I think we are to the point this should be blogged about.
[16:51] <ScottK> Riddell: My test build of qmf with the patched Qt succeeded, so I think that patch is good (for a distro patch).  It still needs to be made portable to go upstream.
[16:53] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: cam doesnt work on the Desire HD ports to Desire .... kaboom
[16:54]  * shadeslayer hates oxygen-icon uploads
[16:54] <shadeslayer> 156MB source package..... 16 MB binary package
[16:57] <apachelogger> expensive news everyone!
[16:57] <ScottK> Uh. Oh.
[16:57] <apachelogger> apachelogger is giving away free work hours this fine evening has he tries to approach ballmers peek
[16:57] <apachelogger> s/has/as
[16:58] <ScottK> apachelogger: Time for a blog post on the ice cream success.
[16:58] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you need to blog on the ice cream armada
[16:58] <shadeslayer> what
[16:58] <ScottK> apachelogger: You do one touting your technical brilliance and I'll do another on your technical brilliance and management overview.
[16:58] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[16:58] <apachelogger> uhh, that sounds like fun indeed
[16:59]  * apachelogger fires up the blogilo
[16:59]  * shadeslayer should get a wp domain
[16:59] <ScottK> Then maybe Riddell would allow us to announce the hardware donation and give proper appreciation to the sponsors of the hardware on kubuntu.org.
[17:00] <shadeslayer> about that.... what hardware? i saw it on planet.ubuntu that we got hardware
[17:00] <Riddell> ScottK: no problem with that from me
[17:00] <shadeslayer> more specifically... kubuntu-devs got hardware
[17:01] <ScottK> shadeslayer: More incentive to rise from minion status.
[17:01] <shadeslayer> ScottK: but what did you get!
[17:01]  * apachelogger notes that he himself did not get hardware even though is constantly whining for an n900 or other fancy stuff he could run kubuntu mobile on
[17:01] <ScottK> (for which first, as apachelogger and I distinctly reminded you yesterday, you need to find us some more minions)
[17:01] <ScottK> shadeslayer: http://www.genesi-usa.com/products/efika.
[17:02] <apachelogger> <3 minions
[17:02] <shadeslayer> oic
[17:02] <shadeslayer> ScottK: and where are these awesome boxes ?
[17:02] <ScottK> In my basement data center.
[17:02] <shadeslayer> ah kewl
[17:03] <ScottK> (well one is still in it's box since I didn't set it up yet)
[17:03] <apachelogger> oh noes
[17:03] <apachelogger> you disclosed the secret location
[17:03] <apachelogger> of our secret hardware, with which we do secret things
[17:03] <ScottK> I didn't say where in the basement.  It's well hidden.
[17:03] <apachelogger> there goes the newly obtained elitism of kubuntu-dev :(
[17:03] <ScottK> Plus the basement is a mess, so even if you knew where, you'd have a hard time finding it.
[17:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i dont know where ScottK lives tho
[17:04] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It's not hard to figure out.
[17:04] <shadeslayer> ScottK: yeah... ill just have to look it up on the wiki/launchpad
[17:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: still, it would be better if we were able to claim that the hardware was on a cloaked spacepship from the future orbiting earth 
[17:04] <ScottK> However the fact that you considered not already knowing might be some kind of barrier is confirmation that minion status is still quite appropriate.
[17:05] <ScottK> apachelogger: Latency is too low for low earth orbit.
[17:05] <ScottK> TCP/IP to space just sucks.
[17:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: since he runs a company that surely cannot be that difficult to find out ;)
[17:05] <ScottK> Due to the whole speed of light nonsense.
[17:05] <apachelogger> ScottK: we could say that we use a newly developed protocol developed only for our use 
[17:05] <ScottK> That or whois my not at all secret domain name.
[17:05] <apachelogger> oh
[17:05] <apachelogger> oh
[17:06] <apachelogger> ohhh
[17:06] <ScottK> We could say lots of things.
[17:06] <apachelogger> since the spaceship is from the future it got fancy tech that allows data transmission at warp5
[17:06] <Riddell> apachelogger: should I set -graphicssystem raster on the Qt compile or do you recon environment variable is better?
[17:06] <shadeslayer> were getting raster? 
[17:06]  * apachelogger just got lost in a fantasy and watches a mathmagician pull a rabbit out of an epsilon
[17:06] <shadeslayer> yayy
[17:07] <ScottK> It's in the spec, so it must be true.
[17:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: I am more for envrionment variable for starters
[17:07]  * ScottK too
[17:07] <apachelogger> saves us two pointless rebuilds in case it turns out to be the crap
[17:07] <apachelogger> also shtylman still needs to fix openoffice to work with raster by default
[17:09] <Riddell> apachelogger: presumably it means doing a kdebase rebuild to add it to startkde though?
[17:09] <yofel> Quintasan: I packaged automoc a while ago, look at our packaging todo and ppa package list
[17:09] <yofel> and there's not much left in kdesupport, most moved to git
[17:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: xession scripty
[17:10] <apachelogger> or we could use /usr/share/env or something like that (as is executed by startkde)
[17:10] <apachelogger> xsession is probably best though
[17:11] <apachelogger> oh dear
[17:11] <apachelogger> choqok notifies about successful posting
[17:12] <shadeslayer> isnt that good?
[17:12] <apachelogger> exactly how I like it, choqok just got to -13% of overall awesomeness
[17:12] <apachelogger> (it used to be at -126)
[17:16] <shadeslayer> im having a bit of trouble understanding this FTBFS https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/2049243/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.kdebase-workspace_4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[17:16] <shadeslayer> kdebase-runtime is built, kdepim-runtime is built... why is it complaining then?
[17:21] <ScottK> Why does workspace need a runtime to build?
[17:21] <apachelogger> magical reasons I would suppose
[17:22] <shadeslayer> no idea whatsoever
[17:22] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you need to set up a chroot and see what happens when you install it
[17:22] <shadeslayer> working on that right now
[17:23] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNM2K8cmU8
[17:25] <Riddell> apachelogger: what's that?
[17:25] <apachelogger> work music
[17:46] <apachelogger> ScottK: I really do not know what to blog
[17:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: you still did not reply on my fancy idea regarding reduction of config paths to search :(
[17:52] <ScottK> apachelogger: About the ice creaming and teaching it to deliver the right compiler so it didn't misbuild, etc.
[17:52] <ScottK> And about building Qt in half the time.
[17:52] <apachelogger> hm, not particularly much content
[17:52]  * apachelogger will have to switch to rambling mode
[17:53] <apachelogger> omg, so much to do
[17:53] <ScottK> You can also talk about how as phonon maintainer you had our first success with fixing armel build failures
[17:53] <apachelogger> qtcreator cmake support waits, likeback waits, phonon waits... :S
[17:53] <ScottK> apachelogger: Blog about how more wonderful KDE/Kubuntu on arm can be now that the community has hardware to work with.
[17:54] <apachelogger> oh, yeah
[17:54] <apachelogger> public relations ftw!
[17:54] <ScottK> Exactly.  Isn't that what blogs are for?
[17:54] <apachelogger> jussi: do you have a pic of qt on arm?
[17:54]  * Riddell makes note to reply on apachelogger'sfancy idea regarding reduction of config paths to search
[17:55] <apachelogger> ScottK: I usually abuse them as wikis or when I feel the need to get my tech ego enlarged ;)
[17:55] <ScottK> OK.  That too.
[18:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: he took one on his phone
[18:06] <shadeslayer> so he is bound to have it
[18:08] <ScottK> apachelogger: You can always repurpose the one used in the Karmic release announcement.
[18:08] <apachelogger> uh?
[18:12] <ScottK> apachelogger: http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/29/kubuntu-910-release-adds-plasma-netbook-preview
[18:14] <apachelogger> oh, no, too geeky ^^
[18:14] <apachelogger> Id rather have a proper Qt on arm ;)
[18:14] <ScottK> It's OK.  Your post is geeky, mine is technical.
[18:14] <ScottK> err
[18:14] <ScottK> technical/management
[18:15] <apachelogger> pfff
[18:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: its building fine in my pbuilder
[18:18] <shadeslayer> then theres https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/2049475, when i already have libindi in the ppa
[18:23] <apparle> how to set which application handles http links
[18:24] <shadeslayer> its under system settings
[18:24] <apparle> shadeslayer: in default applications?
[18:24] <shadeslayer> File associations i think
[18:25] <apparle> I have somehow messed my system such that... man:something tries to open through wine browser
[18:28] <apachelogger> :O
[18:33] <apachelogger> no sheytan!!!
[18:33] <apachelogger> omg
[18:35] <apachelogger> ScottK: I cannot publish without first harassing the artwork overlord for a blog header picture...
[18:36]  * apachelogger still has a blog post on kubuntu documentation in the pipeline too :S
[18:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dpkg --compare-versions 1 > 2 isnt working, what am i doing wrong?
[18:40] <apachelogger> you are not reading the documentation
[18:40] <apachelogger> ubuntu-bug shadeslayer
[18:40] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[18:40] <shadeslayer> shadeslayer package doesnt exsist in the archives:P
[18:40] <shadeslayer> so i use lt ....or gt ... or whatever
[18:41] <apachelogger> whatever might not be the right word there :P
[18:41] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[18:42]  * apachelogger hates rekonq
[18:42] <apachelogger> I cannot even save a webpage to a kio slave
[18:43] <apachelogger> how silly is that
[18:43] <apachelogger> could just as well use arora and have a non-crappy multi-tab behaviour
[18:43] <shadeslayer> uh what
[18:43] <apachelogger> go to web page
[18:43] <apachelogger> try to save as...
[18:43] <apachelogger> to a kio slave
[18:44] <shadeslayer> now where do i find that?
[18:44] <shadeslayer> oh
[18:44] <shadeslayer> you mean remote folders and such?
[18:44] <apachelogger> yes
[18:44] <shadeslayer> afaik its made that way or something
[18:44] <shadeslayer> there was a discussion on the ML about this
[18:45] <apachelogger> I also argued in a bug report about it
[18:45] <apachelogger> because there is no reason for this limitation
[18:45] <apachelogger> none
[18:45] <apachelogger> absolutely none
[18:45] <apachelogger> not even a small one
[18:49] <shadeslayer> bug adjam in rekonq mailing list?
[18:50] <apachelogger> you can tell him to come with a proper argument for not changing 3 lines or so, to make it work :P
[18:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: tell him yourself, it would be a better impact imo
[18:52]  * apachelogger is busy reaching ballmers peak :P
[18:52] <apachelogger> also I am still waiting for the artist
[18:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also, can you look at https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/2049475
[18:53] <shadeslayer> i have libindi - 0.6.1-0ubuntu2~lucid1~ppa1 in the ppa
[18:53] <ScottK> shadeslayer: More and more I'm considering we should reconsider our decision on rekonq as default.
[18:54] <apachelogger> is anyone on top of the rekonq-consider-yourself-bashed list?
[18:54] <shadeslayer> why? ..... what happened?
[18:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I almost got too late to lecture because I could not print a pdf
[18:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I think upstream has an unreasonable resistance to reasonable feature requests.
[18:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats fixed in KDE 4.6 apparently... or something similar
[18:55] <shadeslayer> ScottK: such as openwith? :P
[18:55]  * ScottK is noticing apachelogger's current difficulty and recalls the welcome reception open with got.
[18:55]  * apachelogger recommends shadeslayer to recommend to adam to consider the dolphin way of considering features
[18:55] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Yes, but I get the impression he's got his way and is not open to input.
[18:56] <apachelogger> libindi-dev(inst 0.6.1-0ubuntu2~lucid1~ppa1 ! >= wanted 0.6.1-0ubuntu2)
[18:56] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that makes perfect sense?!
[18:56] <ScottK> Heh.
[18:56] <ScottK> Yep.
[18:56] <shadeslayer> ScottK: frankly im in the favour of open with, but adjam would probably any revert any commits i make wrt   open with
[18:56] <apachelogger> *cough*fork*cough*
[18:56] <ScottK> shadeslayer: I'm not suggesting you do it.  I'm suggesting it's evidence of an unhelpful upstream.
[18:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: bah.... i did make sense of it, just wasnt sure
[18:56]  * apachelogger is all in favor of having shadeslayer as lead dev :P
[18:56] <shadeslayer> lol
[18:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the project would probably die out :P
[18:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: foo~something reduces foo by an epsilon
[18:57] <ScottK> apachelogger: We need to find a minion to do the analysis of how much more space it would take to ship firefox.
[18:57] <apachelogger> and if you can pull a rabbit out of the epsilon, the epsilon was to big :P
[18:57] <apachelogger> uh that one is never getting old
[18:57] <apachelogger> the calculus prof got all Oo when I told him that ^^
[18:58] <apachelogger> ScottK: let me generalize that to "we need to find a minion"
[18:58] <ScottK> Certainly.
[18:58] <DarkwingDuck> hehehe
[18:58] <ScottK> Maybe debfx knows a minion candidate.
[18:58] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: do you have one already?
[18:58] <DarkwingDuck> starcraftman: ping
[18:58] <ScottK> Ah.  Right.
[18:59] <DarkwingDuck> I told you apachelogger.... I've sent starcraftman in here for you.
[18:59] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: I sent flowers to starcraftman, yet he did not reply
[18:59] <shadeslayer> moar minions?
[18:59] <ScottK> Never enough.
[18:59] <DarkwingDuck> There are never enough.
[18:59] <ScottK> Particularly when you look the slackers we've got now.
[18:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you are a spoiled single minion
[18:59]  * DarkwingDuck looks around in a panic
[18:59] <shadeslayer> yeah :D
[19:00] <apachelogger> in the past we always had at least 2 minions or 1.5 :P
[19:00] <DarkwingDuck> hehehe
[19:00] <shadeslayer> in my defense... i had exams for the past week
[19:01] <apachelogger> that is no defense
[19:02] <DarkwingDuck> It is however an excuse
[19:02] <apachelogger> ask jr, he always wanted me to study for exams, yet I usually did write fancy scripts or package some KDE release
[19:02] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: not even that
[19:02] <DarkwingDuck> No, it may be a poor excuse but, still an excuse
[19:02] <apachelogger> works for me
[19:03] <DarkwingDuck> Then again... excuses are like #&$@oles... everyone has one and they all stink :P:P:P
[19:03] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: can you find me an artist?
[19:03] <DarkwingDuck> For?
[19:04] <apachelogger> sheytan seems to be MIA today and I need one to make me a fancy blog post header picture
[19:04] <DarkwingDuck> Let me to some checking...
[19:06] <apachelogger> omg, going to wikipedia these days is dangerous, jimbo will jump right at you ^^
[19:06]  * apachelogger wonders why jimbo did not stop by at UDS though
[19:06] <apachelogger> isnt he living in florida or something?
[19:07] <apachelogger> the wikipedia says so at least, must be true then
[19:08] <DarkwingDuck> lol
[19:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I was thinking, we could include a binary en/decoder in quassel
[19:12] <apachelogger> that way we could do elite talk without even noticing :P
[19:12] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[19:12] <shadeslayer> or something with a better algorithm :P
[19:14] <yofel> you can just make a script, put it in .config/quassel-irc.org/scripts/ and then use /exec binconv.sh BLA
[19:14] <yofel> that wouldn't doo auto-decoding though :P
[19:15] <apachelogger> yeah, insufficient
[19:15] <apachelogger> didnt know that quassel das scripts though
[19:15] <apachelogger> yofel++
[19:16] <apachelogger> ScottK: btw, I spotted ulysses doing packaging
[19:16] <ScottK> Oooh.
[19:16] <ScottK> That's right.
[19:16] <apachelogger> that said, #ubuntu-motu is orange for half the day now...
[19:16] <ScottK> Maybe he can do the analysis.
[19:16] <yofel> well, it can run them and paste stdout, not much, but better than nothing
[19:20] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the clear arrow thing in line fields.... whats it called?
[19:20] <apachelogger> clear arrow?
[19:20] <shadeslayer> for which we have a feature request
[19:20] <shadeslayer> in rekonq
[19:21] <apachelogger> clear arrow
[19:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the class name
[19:21] <apachelogger> there is no class
[19:21] <apachelogger> well
[19:21] <apachelogger> maybe there is
[19:22] <apachelogger> but generally it is a member of klineedit
[19:22] <apachelogger> showClearButton() or somesuch
[19:22] <apachelogger> indeedly
[19:22] <shadeslayer> setclearbuttonshowed
[19:23] <shadeslayer> shown()
[19:23] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot95.png
[19:23] <shadeslayer> yep
[19:24] <shadeslayer> i so hate PPA's right now.....
[19:24] <apachelogger> OBS ftw
[19:24] <shadeslayer> kdebase-workspace is FINALLY building... stupid thing must not have published packages even when it said it did
[19:24] <shadeslayer> apachelogger++
[19:24]  * apachelogger really does not know how to refactor likeback into proper structure
[19:25]  * apachelogger does some ruby
[19:26] <shadeslayer> ok look at this now : http://imagebin.ca/view/Kkqv8d.html
[19:26] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:26] <shadeslayer> what do you see just above the cursor?
[19:27] <shadeslayer> its a one line change and it works!
[19:28] <apachelogger> kde is quite supreme
[19:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.ca/1993699
[19:28] <shadeslayer> yeah
[19:28] <apachelogger> hm
[19:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: loose the KLineEdit::
[19:29] <apachelogger> eeek
[19:29] <apachelogger> also
[19:29] <apachelogger> ewww
[19:29] <shadeslayer> make a object ?
[19:29] <apachelogger> you should do that in the ctor
[19:29] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:29] <apachelogger> klineedit itself will take care of only displaying the button if text is available to be cleared
[19:29] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: urlbar is an object
[19:29] <apachelogger> deriving from klineedit
[19:30] <apachelogger> hence the KLineEdit:: is poinless
[19:30] <shadeslayer> aye
[19:30] <shadeslayer> ok
[19:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.ca/1993705
[19:33] <shadeslayer> seems more logical now
[19:33] <shadeslayer> ok im all charged up after doing that now, ill kode all night until i get stuck now :P
[19:34] <apachelogger> that comment seems pointless TBH
[19:35] <shadeslayer> leave out the comment then?
[19:35]  * apachelogger needs to write his own option parser for the new kde release script -.-
[19:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yeah
[19:35] <Quintasan> yofel: great
[19:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: so thats your wishlist item down
[19:37] <apparle> dexconf generates the default xorg.conf right?
[19:37] <ScottK> apachelogger: There is no default xorg.conf.  Normal is not to have one.
[19:38] <ScottK> apachelogger: sorry.
[19:38] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[19:38] <ScottK> apparle: ^^^
[19:39] <Quintasan> yofel: it is a separate package ,right?
[19:40] <mgraesslin> congratulation to your new update policy
[19:40] <apparle> ScottK:  I want to generate default one to modify it. man page of dexconf says generates the default xorg.conf from debconf?  but it is doing nothing
[19:40] <ScottK> apparle: That's probably obsolete documentation.  The default xorg.conf is nothing.
[19:41] <ScottK> I'd ask in #uubntu-x about it.
[19:43] <yofel> Quintasan: right, project-neon-automoc
[19:44] <yofel> based on git import
[19:44] <Quintasan> trying kdebindings now :P
[19:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: is there a way to request merges or do i move my request to reviewboard? or since i have a commit account, i just commit my changes?
[19:46] <shadeslayer> ( i pushed the changes to my clone )
[19:50] <apachelogger> just merge
[19:50] <apachelogger> reviewboard only ought to be used for review-needing changes
[19:55] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: done ... we now have a clear button in urlbar
[19:55] <apachelogger> cool
[19:56] <apachelogger> if arg == '-h' or arg == '--help'
[19:56] <apachelogger>                 # TODO
[19:56]  * apachelogger writes epic code :D
[19:56] <shadeslayer> also.... it would be kewl if CIA-42 could read my commits :)
[19:57] <apachelogger> CIA-42: read his commits
[19:59] <apachelogger> it's just a jup to the left and then a step to the right with your hands on your hips
[20:00] <claydoh> knees?
[20:01] <apachelogger> what do knees have to do with it?
[20:01]  * apachelogger waits for claydoh to say it ^^
[20:01] <claydoh> 'bring your knees in tiiiiiight'
[20:02] <claydoh> then its a pelvic thrust..........
[20:02] <apachelogger> let's do the time warp again!
[20:02] <Quintasan> apachelogger: grr
[20:02] <apachelogger> Quintasan: Was ist los?
[20:02] <Quintasan> apachelogger: You want to take a look at kdebindings python magic?
[20:02]  * Quintasan versteht nicht
[20:03] <ScottK> apachelogger: It's you quoting music he's not old enough to listen to.
[20:03] <apachelogger> Was is los? == What is up?
[20:03] <apachelogger> Quintasan: Nicht wirklich.
[20:03] <Quintasan> I understood that much :P
[20:03] <claydoh> lol its a 'timeless' song hah!
[20:03] <apachelogger> ScottK: surely he is old enough for that :P
[20:05] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.  Maybe that one, but there are others from the same show that are questionable for youth.
[20:06]  * neversfelde likes that the updates policy is approved
[20:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lol : http://imagebin.ca/view/nyb9SWI.html
[20:07] <neversfelde> but we should really have more time for the doodle votes ;)
[20:07] <apachelogger> ScottK: I wouldn't go there or I had to kick myself from the channel ;)
[20:10]  * apachelogger just had a mad idea
[20:11] <apachelogger> since the new kde release script is supposed to be very modular I will make the optparser's --help base its option list off parsing the scirpt files lying around in the libary folder :D
[20:17] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Would you be kind enough to forward this to Lex when he is around? http://pastebin.com/tsiG4CHa
[20:17] <apachelogger> hm
[20:18] <apachelogger> I do have join/parts/quits hidden
[20:18] <apachelogger> so I never know when anyone is around 
[20:18] <apachelogger> assuming that everyone is around everytime
[20:18] <apachelogger> Quintasan: why dont you just send a mail?
[20:18] <apachelogger> seems more reliable
[20:19]  * Quintasan is too lazy to search for his email
[20:19] <apachelogger> also there is memoserv :D
[20:20] <ScottK> Looks like I could pretty easily write a hook to script a kdesvn trunk build.
[20:21] <apachelogger> scary
[20:21] <apachelogger> but cool
[20:25] <shadeslayer> ive rarely seen lex after he became kubuntu dev :(
[20:27] <ScottK> He got smarter ...
[20:27] <ScottK> Actually he tends to be around in bursts.
[20:27] <ScottK> Very active for a week or so and then less time.
[20:27] <shadeslayer> yeah.... active the week KDE gets tagged :D
[20:29] <ScottK> Nothing wrong with that.  First 4.6 beeta isn't far away.
[20:30] <shadeslayer> yep
[20:31] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: we should have asked him to work on neon as well
[20:32] <Quintasan> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video
[20:32] <Quintasan> what the hell
[20:36] <shadeslayer> whoa
[20:36]  * Quintasan compiles git kernel
[20:36] <Quintasan> though I don't know if my pc will not explode
[20:38] <apachelogger> wow this is sick
[20:38] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/533209/
[20:42] <shadeslayer> btw has anyone tried bridging connections between the Ethernet and Wifi cards in KDE/
[20:43] <ScottK> That may be what happened to Tonio.
[20:44] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/533213/
[20:44] <apachelogger> muahahah
[20:44] <apachelogger> ScottK: lol
[20:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what is there to bridge?
[20:45] <apachelogger> iptables does that just fine I would suppose
[20:45] <shadeslayer> ive never tried it, so thats why im asking
[20:46] <apachelogger> there are a bazillion howtos on iptables based routing/natting
[20:46] <shadeslayer> probably
[20:46]  * apachelogger needs to schedule a phonon-merge-request-review day
[20:47] <shadeslayer> anyways, im off to sleep
[20:47] <shadeslayer> cya
[20:49] <yofel> gn
[20:51] <yofel> hm, improving system performance with cpu and memory load is nice, but please fix the fact that using swap makes the system almost unusable too...
[20:54] <apachelogger> sudo swapoff -a
[21:02] <apparle> is there anyway to start a part of daemon with an argument?
[21:08] <apparle> how to pass an argument to start-stop-daemon
[21:09] <apachelogger> -- --foo=bar
[21:09] <apachelogger> I suppose
[21:09] <yofel> apparle: you mean to the damon that's started? -- --opt
[21:10] <apparle> yofel: there isn't any such option in the man page of start-stop-daemon
[21:11] <yofel> apparle: I meant, '--' and add your deamon options
[21:11] <yofel> -- is used as an option seperator
[21:11] <yofel> like: --exec=/usr/bin/daemon -- --logfile=...
[21:13] <apparle> yay.... I finally got lircmd on my home made receiver :D
[21:17] <maco> Riddell: "exciting" has a 'c'
[21:18] <apachelogger> how exiting
[21:19] <maco> if only he lived like 100mi south of where he is...then i could make a joke about being english and not knowing how to spell in english...
[21:20] <apachelogger> ^^
[21:21]  * apachelogger went beyond ballmers peak 
[21:21] <apachelogger> enough hacking for today
[21:21] <ulysses> :D
[21:21] <apachelogger> that option parser I wrote is super fancy
[21:21] <apachelogger> also it solves 90% of the problems I had with the release script design
[21:48] <dasKreech> why is there more chatter in here than the support chan?
[21:48] <apachelogger> kubuntu is too good
[21:48] <apachelogger> no need for support
[21:48] <apachelogger> we should introduce some bugs
[21:49] <dasKreech> Funny I've heard it's buggered enough as it is
[21:49] <ulysses> apachelogger: bug 644740 :P
[21:50] <dasKreech> I've been out of it for a little are we merging kdelibs with Qt?
[21:51] <claydoh> I think the entire intarwebs  is picking on jono and/or cananonical, so no time for other chats
[21:51] <dasKreech> What did Jono do?
[21:51] <apachelogger> what did canonical do?
[21:51] <claydoh> plus once everyone figgered out how to get sound in kubuntu, all is pretty nice :)
[21:52]  * apachelogger is moving to meego, there he gets his beloved fedora and does not have to deal with people drawing attention
[21:52] <claydoh> jono just has to speak these days, but itd the whole openrespect thingy that seems to do it this week
[21:52] <dasKreech> Why are people attacking him for that? did he initiate it?
[21:53] <dasKreech> or is he just the contact person
[21:53] <dasKreech> that would be harmony correct?
[21:53] <ScottK> dasKreech: I think given how well merging Phonon stuff into Qt has gone, it's a sure thing we'll  merge kdelibs.
[21:53] <claydoh> dasKreech: he started the idea (iirc) but somehow pissed off the ususal haters and hotheads
[21:54] <ScottK> Well it's not like the haters and hotheads are completely without merit.
[21:55] <dasKreech> and it's kinda jono's job to deal with them so I think he'll be ok
[21:55] <claydoh> no but the level of it seems to be quite high
[21:55] <claydoh> dasKreech: agreed
[21:56] <dasKreech> plus at the rate that announcements are dropping I'm sure in 4 weeks people will forget about this much as people no longer really talk about Unity or the buttons being on the "wrong side"
[21:57] <claydoh> but like us politics its either either/or, bad/good left/right
[21:57] <apachelogger> unity unity unity
[21:57] <apachelogger> 3 * unity = trinity
[21:57] <claydoh> buttons? they moved the buttons??? o my
[21:57] <dasKreech> it's the Wayland forward!
[21:57] <claydoh> :)
[21:57] <apachelogger> whereland?
[21:57] <claydoh> whyland
[21:58] <claydoh> actually unity kinda looks nice to me
[21:58] <dasKreech> Again I don't think that most people would have an issue with anythign that happens as long as there was a feeling that it was open and intended for upstream
[21:58] <apachelogger> it is like pornography for geeks
[21:58] <claydoh> as  a gnome-hater its looking kinda nice (unity)
[21:58] <dasKreech> Goodness knows that Fedora has had some seriously off the wall experiments but people kinda nod at it and wait to see what happens
[21:59] <apachelogger> claydoh: well it is not gnome
[21:59] <dasKreech> I haven't looked at it at all but then I haven't gotten around to trying the netbook KDE either
[21:59] <dasKreech> no clue when I'll get around to the media center 
[21:59] <claydoh> while ubuntu does it and everyone yells
[21:59] <dasKreech> claydoh: because people feel that it's against the principle that they are working with
[22:00] <apachelogger> nah
[22:00] <apachelogger> because you bun too has many loud no sayers
[22:00]  * apachelogger thinks that sentence is very confusing in english
[22:00] <apachelogger> I shall only communicate in binary for the time being
[22:00] <claydoh> its the 'the big guys have to be knocked down' syndrome
[22:01] <claydoh> linux needs to be the niche, cool, geeky OS if grammy uses it, it can't be good
[22:01] <dasKreech> apachelogger: it's worse in Jamaican. It has atleast two entendres 
[22:01] <claydoh> thats what I bet it all really boils down to
[22:02] <dasKreech> claydoh: redhat is quite a bit larger than Canonical
[22:02] <claydoh> mindshare wise tho
[22:02] <dasKreech> I wouldn't doubt if you looked at Novell it's bigger as well
[22:02] <apachelogger> novell
[22:02]  * apachelogger giggles
[22:02] <apachelogger> novell is a big load of worthless junk 
[22:02] <apachelogger> and opensuse
[22:02] <dasKreech> but people feel that it's US |----| Ubuntu
[22:02] <apachelogger> if you get the hint there ;)
[22:03] <apachelogger> oh, I wanted to talk binary
[22:03] <dasKreech> while they feel that Novell and Redhat are part of US
[22:03] <apachelogger> ubuntu also feels very US
[22:03] <claydoh> I don't think so, there have been haters since the very very beginning
[22:03]  * claydoh was one of the anti-borg crowd
[22:04] <apachelogger> you did not like the borg?
[22:04] <apachelogger> :O
[22:04] <ScottK> Current Natty soprano and attica are too old for kdesvn trunk.  Someone might want to look at updating them.
[22:04] <claydoh> only the cool iniforms
[22:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: arent they latest already?
[22:04] <claydoh> uniforns rather
[22:04] <ScottK> apachelogger: Maybe latest release, but not new enough.
[22:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: well, I personally would perfer to wait for alpha1
[22:05] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.
[22:05] <apachelogger> you never know what changing those sort of things break
[22:05] <ScottK> dasKreech: One difference is that the Ubuntu "experiments" tend to be part of the default install.
[22:05] <apachelogger> something is very off with my english
[22:05] <ScottK> If it's in the default, it's not an experiment anymore, IMO.
[22:05] <apachelogger> clearly I beyond ballmers peak
[22:06] <ScottK> Quick, go help Sput with fixing his Windows port.
[22:06] <apachelogger> *beyond*
[22:06] <apachelogger> that reminds me that I needed to do QA on phonon for windows
[22:06] <apachelogger> apparently there are tag reading problems
[22:06] <ScottK> PolkitQt-1 needs updating too.
[22:06] <apachelogger> ahhhh, so much to do
[22:07]  * apachelogger starts crying
[22:07] <ScottK> apachelogger: I understood "beyond" when I suggested working on a Windows thing.
[22:07] <apachelogger> lol
[22:08]  * apachelogger is willing to do this for getting qtmultimediakit dead
[22:12] <ScottK> apachelogger: No ice cream when I build -j5 with the upstream build script thingy.
[22:12] <apachelogger> :O
[22:12] <ScottK> I build a debian package in the same chroot with -j5 and it icecreamed just fine.
[22:12] <apachelogger> :O
[22:12] <apachelogger> see, that is what I meant when I said that the script is scary
[22:13] <ScottK> BTW, finally made it through configure on kde4libs from trunk.
[22:13] <apachelogger> ScottK: maybe it hardcodes the g++ path or some stuff
[22:13] <ScottK> Maybe.
[22:13]  * ScottK looks around for his ice cream expert.
[22:13] <hrw> ScottK: anything more then downgrade of gcc-4.5 packages required?
[22:13] <JontheEchidna> The newest polkit-qt1 requires KDE trunk
[22:13] <JontheEchidna> or more specifically
[22:13] <ScottK> Oh hai apachelogger.
[22:13] <JontheEchidna> KDE 4.5 will fail with the latest polkit-qt-1
[22:13] <apachelogger> meh!
[22:14] <apachelogger> why me, oh my oh my
[22:14] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Good thing I didn't install that then.
[22:14] <JontheEchidna> (I already have packages for polkit-qt-1 and polkit-kde-1
[22:14] <JontheEchidna> )
[22:14] <JontheEchidna> Breaks API/ABI too
[22:14] <ScottK> (it's not abosolutely required to build)
[22:14] <ScottK> hrw: old gcc and new kdesupport stuff, but as JontheEchidna says, you need to be careful about that.
[22:14] <ScottK> The kde build script fails since it doesn't know about attica moving to git.
[22:15] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Did you see the news about KDE point releases in -updates?
[22:15] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[22:15] <ScottK> Didn't you have 4.4.5 all tested and ready for when the glorious day arrived?
[22:16] <JontheEchidna> I've not done a lot of packaging lately
[22:16] <ScottK> 4.4.5 isn't lately.
[22:16] <JontheEchidna> oh, right
[22:16] <apachelogger> ScottK: and it is the very same chroot?
[22:16] <ScottK> apachelogger: Yes.
[22:17] <apachelogger> hmmmm
[22:17] <apachelogger> echo $PATH please
[22:17] <ScottK> Can't.  In the middle of building.
[22:17] <apachelogger> omg
[22:17] <apachelogger> screen ftw
[22:17] <ScottK> I did do the export path thingy in your comments.
[22:17] <apachelogger> hmmmm
[22:17] <apachelogger> then I really do not see why it would not work
[22:17]  * apachelogger sshs
[22:17] <ScottK> screen won't get me more than one instance inside the chroot.
[22:18] <ScottK> Let's see how kde4libs does then.
[22:18] <apachelogger> it is mocing right now
[22:18] <ScottK> Yes, it is.
[22:19] <ScottK> the lack of ice cream was based on watching it not work on kdesupport.
[22:19] <apachelogger> also byobu or whatever its name is does silly stuff /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check
[22:19] <ScottK> I had to build attica separately, so I used debian packaging for htat.
[22:19]  * ScottK doens't use that.
[22:19]  * apachelogger shall use use good ol screen again, since he does not use anything of that fancy stuff anyway
[22:19]  * ScottK finds it too fancy.
[22:20] <apachelogger> first thing I do with it, is change the key combos to standard screen
[22:20] <apachelogger> them silly f-keys shortcuts conflict with about any CLI app I use ^^
[22:20]  * hrw uses byobu on remote and screen on local
[22:20] <ScottK> Looks like it's a good thing I got the 16 GB usb stick.
[22:20] <ScottK> /dev/sdb1             15396092   8251096   6362900  57% /var/cache
[22:20] <hrw> and yes - stealing of fkeys is ARGGGSHH 
[22:21] <ScottK> apachelogger: Do you need any of the other chroots that are left lying around on that box?
[22:21] <hrw> Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320071851520 bytes
[22:21] <apachelogger> no
[22:21] <hrw> ops, wrong window
[22:21] <ScottK> Thanks.  I'll clean up.
[22:22] <hrw> ScottK: qt4-x11 build started on single pandaboard. will give you info tomorrow how much time it took and did it passed
[22:22] <ScottK> Thanks.
[22:23] <ScottK> hrw: I'm reasonably confident of that patch since I was also able to build qmf on top of the fixed Qt.  It'll still be interesting.
[22:26] <hrw> ScottK: and who knows... maybe in two days I will be able to run kde4/natty on panda D:
[22:26] <ScottK> Maybe.
[22:31] <apachelogger> now that would be sweet
[22:31] <apachelogger> what also would be sweet if apachelogger got a device he could also run natty on :P
[22:37] <hrw> apachelogger: where are you from?
[22:37] <hrw> looks like european time zone..
[22:37] <apachelogger> the mountainy lands of austria
[22:39] <hrw> apachelogger: knock to my door and I can share beagleboard c3. crap (due to 256MB ram) but device 
[22:40] <apachelogger> ^^
[22:41] <ScottK> apachelogger: looks like the path is being monkeyed with.  
[22:42] <apachelogger> this silly script!!!
[22:42]  * apachelogger waves fist
[22:42] <ScottK> At least it's building.
[22:42] <apachelogger> ScottK: I think we can export an env var to enforce ICECC
[22:43] <apachelogger> lemme ask the intarwebs
[22:43] <ScottK> OK.
[22:43] <Sput> whut. windows?
[22:43] <Sput> not gonna touch that as long as I'm sober enough to read the screen
[22:43] <ScottK> Sput: Perfect place for a programmer that's past Ballmer Peak.
[22:43] <apachelogger> or maybe not
[22:43] <apachelogger> we could force make into doing it
[22:43] <apachelogger> ...
[22:43] <ScottK> apachelogger seems to have made a bit of a recovery.
[22:44] <Sput> ScottK: regarding the ballmer peak, I'm in limbo right now
[22:44] <Sput> I'm not far enough over to go to bed now
[22:44] <ScottK> apachelogger: Figure out how to get it as an option in the script and send it upstream.
[22:44] <Sput> which means MOAR ALCOHOL I guess
[22:44] <apachelogger> ScottK: I do not want to
[22:44] <apachelogger> it is the perl
[22:44] <apachelogger> the perl is legacy
[22:44] <apachelogger> that would be like doing gnome stuff
[22:44] <apachelogger> oh how I hated doing gnome stuff
[22:44]  * apachelogger waves fist again
[22:45] <apachelogger> ScottK: DarkwingDuck knows all about perl he told me
[22:45] <Sput> perl is great
[22:45] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.  Explain him what to do and he can be your perl minion.
[22:45] <apachelogger> in fact he is as supreme in doing decent things with perl as I am with ruby
[22:45] <Sput> you kids with those shiny new toys, go away
[22:45]  * ScottK has to go for a while.
[22:45] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: pingy
[22:46]  * apachelogger sings .... always look on the bright side of life, always look on the light side of life...
[23:16] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: pong
[23:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: my wishlist item?
[23:58] <starcraftman> apachelogger: thanks for the flowers, and for the record my zerglings are minions, I like to think I'm a bit higher up the ladder. Like evil henchman maybe?
[23:59] <starcraftman> need to start signing in from work maybe, keep missing people pinging me :/