[00:57] Hello all. Has anyone ever dealt with various URLs coming back as invalid? [00:57] Currently, I can't hit anything with "netflix.com" [00:57] I restarted nscd, but that didn't do anything [01:03] netflix.com working fine here [01:05] when i enable the kubuntu-ppa, update, and look at what would happen if i decided to upgrade to KDE4.5.3, i see that yawp will be removed in the process... will yawp be available if i do this upgrade? [01:06] Yeah, it happens to me from time to time [01:06] Different sites suddenly won't display [01:06] I get Invalid URL all over the place [01:07] draik: but no likely clue as to what is causing the problem? [01:08] draik: what happens if you ping those sites? [01:14] jmichaelx: http://pastebin.com/VxpKehCf [01:16] draik: strange.... that seems to indicate that you are able to see the site just fine [01:18] And now the site loads. [01:19] I go yell now. [01:19] draik: what DNS servers are you using? [01:21] Google [01:22] hola [01:26] draik: i have had a few momentary issues with google DNS, but nothing significant [01:31] I am using Kubuntu 10.10, my mouse keeps disappearing off the screen, is there a way I can keep my mouse on the screen? [01:34] is it a laptop or an optical mouse and when does this happen? [01:37] can somebody do me a favor and post a message to the screen with billytwowilly: to start? I'm testing out weechat.. [01:38] billytwowilly: [01:38] billytwowilly: testing [01:38] there is #test for that :) [01:39] thanks. [01:39] it worked. [01:39] I appreciate the help. [01:57] moetunes: It happens with both my trackpad and optical mouse [01:57] moetunes: It happens all the time, I can just move it right off the screen [01:58] at the left and right sides? [01:58] moetunes: just top and left it seems [01:59] elijah: the mouse leans to the right doesn't it? [01:59] moetunes: Not following you? [01:59] moetunes: I can move it way off the top and left and it takes a while to get back [02:00] mine seems to disappear on the right and bottom 'cause it leans left [02:00] hmm [02:00] elijah: check the screen resolution then [02:01] moetunes: checked, 1280x800 nividia settings [02:02] look right to me [02:02] elijah: sounds like somethings up with your vid cards driver then - using the one from nvidia or the repos [02:02] the proprietary one [02:02] does it happen with a diff driver? [02:03] i will try [02:03] where do i change it again? [02:06] found it [02:06] I don't know anything about using proprietry drivers sorry [02:06] k [02:07] applications/system/add. drivers' [02:42] hey, need some guidance here: I'm on a vps, where do you think would be more appropriate to install a website's cleanup script, as a crontab or inside cron.daily? [03:07] Hey everyone! I got a lot of help last time I was here, fixed loads of problems, would you mind me askin about 2 other things, last 2 problems! [03:08] depends on what the questions are [03:09] I have an ASRock motherboard, using a PCI Express card not internal, but it has nForce 6100/405 networking and audio, with Fedora the sound worked pretty good, though not as good as Windows for quality, but with Kubuntu it reports that it can only use mono at 60% volume orsomething and sounds generally crap. [03:09] I looked for nForce linux drivers but they are like 2 years out of date, it recognises the card fine, but only works in mono [03:10] is there something I can do about this or am I stuck with it, and not too difficult to do? [03:10] I am using kubuntu 10.10. In Kde4, if i add applications desktop. the applications on the desktop are now showing in a proper order, and the right-click does not showing any options like "arrange by name, arrange by type. etc..." . How i can auto arrange the items on the Desktop so that desktop will appear properly ? [03:11] yea and i'm using kubuntu 10.10 [03:12] and i want kubuntu because fedora i can't get some other more important things working [03:13] can anyone help :( [03:13] I don't use that chipset and don't have any experience with it [03:14] hmm, i'll try using the drivers i found when i get back to the machine [04:16] how do i add the latest kde to 10.10...right here... http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.5.3 .... all i can find is for 9.04 [04:20] FloridaGuy: you add ppa:kubuntu-ppa to your repositories [04:20] update, and then upgrade [04:21] valorie, then that will add the lastest kde to the repo [04:21] yes [04:21] that's exactly how I did it a few weeks ago [04:22] ok [04:23] Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release.gpg Something wicked happened resolving 'ppa.launchpad.net:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) [04:23] Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [04:24] weird -- your link opens the gpg key [04:24] I would just do it again [04:25] i added it the way you said [04:27] can you look at your list of repositories, and see if there is an obvious error somewhere? [04:27] because this looks wrong: 'ppa.launchpad.net:http' [04:28] see that? === bryan is now known as Guest21107 === programmer is now known as Guest6471 [04:46] can someone please tell me where the wallpapers are stored? [04:47] i downloaded wallpapers using the desktop settings tool...but i dont knwo where they are storeed === bigbrovar_ is now known as bigbrovar === micro is now known as Guest15374 === ahmed is now known as Guest64915 === Guest64915 is now known as hamoza [06:36] how do I stop KDE's network management applet (so that I can run nm-applet) [06:37] I don't think you need to stop it [06:38] $ nm-applet --replace [06:38] An instance of nm-applet is already running. [06:39] and it's not. [06:41] why the --replace? [06:41] because (i) nm-applet has no man page at all and (ii) I've tried all possible options to make it start anyway [06:42] So, I suppose that it sees KDE network manager, and barks [06:42] ok - you tried to pkill it? [06:43] pkill what? [06:43] there's no 'nm-applet' in ps output [06:43] KDE network manager [06:43] well, it's apparently not a program any longer [06:44] it's plasma plugin of some sort [06:44] does ps aux | grep net show it? [06:44] no [06:45] does ps aux | grep -i net show it? [06:46] it is called NetworkManager iirc - with a capital N [06:46] kill `pidof NetworkManager` [06:46] It's NetworkManager daemon, not KDE's UI for it. [06:47] and nm-applet need daemon to work [06:50] I've no idea then - I don't use any network managers [06:50] gotta uninstall KDE one, as last resort [06:51] wicd works for alot of ppl [06:57] I'd much rather write openconnect support for KDE, in the long term ;-) [06:58] and, if wicd does not support VPN, it's kinda useless [06:59] there's something on the wicd home page about that === michael is now known as Guest63512 [07:26] i cannot install anything I download and nothing makes sense on the web [07:27] hi [07:28] does any know how to lock the laptop keyboard, so I can put a book on top of it? [07:29] anyone there? [07:30] so nobody knows how to do anyhting [07:30] what they knows, then? [07:30] food and woman? [07:31] i cant install anything I download and nothing makes sense on the web [07:32] hello. i'm using kubuntu in failsafe gui mode currently [07:34] i have no idea why, but since i shut down the computer when I left for work it won't boot up normally. it gets to the login screen, i type my password, and it hangs forever on a black screen with just the mouse thereafter. no significant processor usage, judging by the fan [07:35] this is why people stick with windows cause they can actually get help with their problems [07:36] any suggestions about something to try would be welcome [07:37] the only significant thing I recall doing is uninstalling the mysql server [07:37] nobody knows nothing in here [07:37] what i can tell sofar [07:40] can anybody say anything at least [08:02] zztr: is your /tmp full? [08:03] zztr: also you can CTRL+ALT+F2 into a console, login there and run top to see if there's anything it's trying to do.. [08:03] zztr: it could be the session manager trying to load something - though I'd expect it to get further. [08:03] zztr: you can also tail /var/log/messages to see if there is anything significant there. [08:04] webinator: more details - what are you trying to install/download, what happens when you do .. [08:05] webinator: The silence here is probably a lot to do with timezones [08:13] frogonwheels: thanks. I have to quit since I can't move windows around in this mode it seems [08:14] control shift f2 does nothing in this mode [08:14] zztr: ctrl+alt+F2 should get you to the linux console [08:14] you should tell ppl how to get back too [08:14] oh there it is. great, i just misread. [08:15] moetunes: good point [08:15] :) [08:15] ctrl - alt - f7, correct? [08:15] zztr: to get back you press alt+F7 (or alt+F8 sometimes) [08:15] not the ctrl you only need that when going from Xwindows [08:21] well it seems the ext3fs maximal mount count is reached [08:22] i have no idea how. i have one external drive that's fat [08:22] zztr: oh weird presumably it's one of your primary partitions? [08:23] it is a partitioned drive. the other partition is osx... [08:23] but why does that matter... it's not ext3 [08:24] and if it doesn't mount, that's fine anyway [08:24] zztr: well is it your main partition that reaches the mount count? [08:24] zztr: look even so, it shouldn't stop you from loging in. [08:25] where would all the other mount points come from?? [08:25] or is the max number suddenly really low like 1 [08:25] how do i check this stuff [08:25] zztr: typically for ext3 it's quite high.. [08:28] zztr: errm tune2fs -l apparently [08:29] zztr: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/??? [08:30] there's probably something erroring out and remounting - check the size of the log files [08:31] there's a lot in /var/log/messages. too much to go through. nothing jumps out at me [08:32] Excuse me,but is there anybody here? [08:32] nope :) [08:32] we're all hiding. [08:32] Er [08:33] cristie: ;) just ask your question [08:34] Do any body install the Adobe Reader 9.0? [08:34] what happened when you tried, cristie? [08:34] I can`t find the way to uninstall it. [08:34] cristie: how did you install it? [08:34] That`s the problem [08:35] I get the .deb from adobe.com [08:35] cristie: ok - then that should just uninstall from your favourite package manager [08:36] But I can`t find it in the Ubuntu Software Center [08:37] did you install it with dpkg -i ? [08:37] I think I did not [08:37] moetunes: probably installed it with that kde package installer thing, whatever it's called [08:37] moetunes: which log files? [08:38] Ok. [08:38] zztr: I would do ls -lh /var/log/ [08:38] zztr: the total is on the first line [08:38] frogonwheels: fiddling with tune2fs, doesn't seem to be happy with anything in /dev [08:39] I think I find the way to deal with it [08:39] zztr: did you sudo ? [08:39] cristie: you found the package? [08:39] frogonwheels:Year [08:40] But not it the Software center [08:40] frogonwheels: yes [08:40] frogonwheels:I find the files.There is an 'uninstall' in it. [08:41] moetunes: 8.8m total, biggest logs are dpkg.log.1 and daemon.log.1 [08:41] frogonwheels:But thank you the same.You know I am new to Linux. [08:41] cristie: hmm.. really you should use the package manager [08:41] cristie: it would be _much_ better if you did [08:42] that's ok then - obviously no large amounts of messages being written [08:42] moetunes: both 1.3m [08:42] cristie: do you know what the filename of adobe is called (the executable)? [08:42] frogonwheels:yes,I agree. [08:42] zztr: I have had logs that were 60m + due to errors [08:42] cristie: you can find the package name with dpkg-query -S [08:43] cristie: and then you can sudo dpkg -r [08:44] frogonwheels:em [08:44] cristie: from 'konsole' [08:44] frogonwheels:I get it. [08:46] moetunes: ah that sounds scary [08:47] moetunes: yeah - I've had GB logs that filled up the disk-space and thus nothing started :) [08:55] frogonwheels: ok i was wrong. /dev/sda4 doesn't give an error message and has real output [09:00] i gotta sleep for work tomorrow. thank you very much for your help! i'll of course look at this again [09:01] 'night! === marcusw is now known as runlevelten [09:10] is there any way to make kopete minimise to the task bar like it used to? [09:11] if i click the x everything closes.. [09:16] does anybody know about progress for mesa, blur and kde 4.5? [09:29] всем привет [09:37] hello [09:39] i still have problems with kde4 slowdown after a while (konsole for example with 20 ~ tabs open, switching to konsole or between tabs cause 100% cpu and needs 1-3 s), typing in quassel and sending msg also slow === noaXess is now known as noaXess_mobile === noaXess_mobile is now known as noaXess [10:35] hi! i want a script to start after booting, do i realize it by making a symlink from /etc/rc2.d/S20bla on my script? [10:37] hi everyone, is there an app in linux preferably a KDE app that can send SMS at low rates or even free through other gateways? [10:52] I think you'll need to find somewhere online to do that === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [11:37] anyone familiar with any KDE SIP app that supports sending SMS as well just like Twinkle? [11:45] sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440 [11:49] faydriss@Faydriss:/etc$ kdesudo kate sudoers sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting [11:50] any ideas? === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [12:00] chmod? [12:41] Is there a command called "screen_it" in ubuntu? [12:42] found here: http://github.com/vishvananda/novascript/blob/master/nova.sh#L153 [12:49] hi i'm new and i want to know more [13:08] hi all [13:09] can you tell me if I can use the normal network manager and the wpasupplicant? [13:27] am I seeing this right? I am on Kubuntu 10.04, fresh install plus just Chromium, so out of the box, and I see 210mb of ram is all thats used? [13:29] seems all the eye candy is on so it would seem. I was under the impression that KDE was heavier that Gnome. [13:35] <[mors]> hello [13:35] <[mors]> can't configure routes in knetworkmanager's pptp vpn config dialog [13:35] <[mors]> anyone ? [13:48] [mors]: sorry, I have no idea about vpn [13:57] hello, just changed mother boards, got video up and running, googled to no avail in re-configuring sound to work, any ideas ?, thanks. [13:59] wn1zid, alsamixer in the terminal, to see if your soundcard is showing [13:59] k, brb [14:00] huh, no such file or directory [14:02] wn1zid, ok , sudo aptitude install alsa-base alsa-utils [14:02] k, brb [14:03] its all there, [14:03] what's all there? [14:03] alsa-base alsa-utils [14:04] did it install or was it already there? [14:04] already there [14:04] ok [14:04] I like the tab button in the terminal - try typing alsam and then hitting the tab button [14:05] i installed gstreamer-properties last nite to see if i could switch to but the option is not there [14:06] wnlspci | grep -i audio [14:06] oops [14:06] k [14:06] lspci | grep -i audio [14:07] hi, kshowdown blocks kubuntu desktop 10.10 and function off of the computer does not work when is installed [14:07] kshutdown [14:07] it sees it ok [14:07] but alsamixer should see your card [14:08] no go for alsamixer [14:08] weird [14:08] aplay -l should list the card [14:09] Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10) [14:10] aplay -i did nothing [14:10] wn1zid, purge alsa-utils and alsa-base .reboot and sudo aptitude update then install alsa again [14:10] speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -t wav [14:11] wn1zid: that should have been an lower case L not a I [14:11] ah [14:12] not to sound dumb, but how to purge ?, never had to b4 [14:13] i remember when using sabayon, it gave a reconfigure --alsa command and it found the card [14:14] <[mors]> can't configure routes in knetworkmanager's pptp vpn config dialog, help please ? :( [14:14] wn1zid, well you can try that but I've never seen it work [14:15] ya, it was on a fresh install to get the card seen [14:15] standard proceedure [14:16] see if the module is installed . lsmod | grep snd [14:16] just show me how to purge the 2 and i should be ok from there [14:16] k [14:16] all there\ [14:16] hi, in kubuntu 10.10, kshowndown stops my desk and cause a failure in the function of the computer shutdown [14:18] wn1zid, sudo aptitude purge alsa-base , the same for alsa-utils , then reboot and sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade , then sudo aptitude install alsa-base alsa-utils [14:18] excellent, thank you, brb === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [14:23] hi === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [14:24] anyone know how to change the "all chats" and "nicks" background color in quassel [14:24] hi, anyone know if kshutdown work very well in kubuntu 10.10? [14:25] napier, what happens if you do ; sudo halt === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [14:28] bluesut shutdown can shut down the pc but cause many problems in my desktop [14:30] napier, paste the error messages in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ , copy the url and post it here [14:31] heh, still no mixer [14:32] did you install alsa-base and alsa-utils? [14:32] brb === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [14:33] maybe itl work on reboot, thanks, brb === christian is now known as Guest44951 [14:41] blueskaj, this is the problem with kshutdown in kubuntu 10.10: to activate the desktop takes a long time and the button to turn off the computer does not work and the desktop effects are disabled [14:42] ok, now on boot, it says 'hda intel' no codes installed [14:44] !intelhda | wn1zid , try this tutorial , it should help install the right driver [14:44] wn1zid , try this tutorial , it should help install the right driver: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [14:44] ok, thanks [14:49] Yo, I've just installed kubuntu today and I pressed something on the taskbar and now all of the open windows seem to have gone [14:50] this is the problem with kshutdown in kubuntu 10.10 but the parameter sudo halt doesnt report error : to activate the desktop takes a long time and the button to turn off the computer does not work and the desktop effects are disabled [14:50] Was that in response to me? [14:52] napier, were you replying to me then? If so I don't understand what you said [14:52] selsper, no he wasn't [14:53] was for bleskaj my question? [14:53] Ahhh, awesome. Can somebody help me please? [14:55] selsper, you probly clicked on the desktop window icon, you can run several desktops simultaneously , the default is 2 ..look for a little square in the panel [14:55] there should be 2 [14:56] I see them [14:58] is posting images to the channel allowed? it would be easier to explain that way [14:58] napier, I'm sorry I have no idea what could be wrong with your machine , one thing you might try is the additional drivers in the kmenu/applications/system [14:59] sel post an image on a webpage and post the url here like imagebin.com [14:59] !imagebin [14:59] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it. [15:00] bleskaj i have the nvidia drivers installed [15:00] ok [15:00] !tab | napier [15:00] napier: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [15:00] so when i minimize a window it seems to just close [15:02] ubottu: ok thanks [15:03] selsper, install taskmanger widget in the panel [15:03] ahhh so simple [15:03] I hate being a complete noob :P [15:03] cheers [15:03] napier, are you using the recommended driver? [15:03] hello togther [15:04] doese anyone have the same Problem with authenticating with kopete against ICQ? [15:05] Havoc][, there was someone in here yesterday withat problem , but i dunno whether they solved it [15:05] hm [15:05] thanks, BluesKaj [15:06] icq...din't know ppl still used that [15:06] sadly most of my contacts does :-( [15:07] !ICQ [15:07] Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, YIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and, in KDE 3, IRC. See also !Pidgin [15:07] hmm [15:19] i cant install anything I download and nothing on the web helps [15:22] I'm a noob to linux and really dont know anything but want to learn [15:24] kubuntu comes with lots of packages [15:24] !packages [15:24] You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !KPackageKit, !Adept, "apt-cache search ", or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways! [15:24] ah! Found a Workarround in #kopete: Topic for #kopete: ICQ fix: preferences->setup->change account settings->override server "login.icq.com" [15:26] like I tried following the steps to istall uTorrent but some of the steps just dont work [15:27] utorrent is a windows app - you can't use them in linux - there's ktorrent for torrenting [15:28] !info ktorrent [15:28] ktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client based on the KDE platform. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 945 kB, installed size 4052 kB [15:28] but you can run with samba i thought [15:28] not with samba - the app is called wine [15:28] !wine [15:28] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [15:28] isorry wine but it doesnt work [15:29] or cannot open once installed [15:29] it is way easier to use the native apps [15:29] exactly [15:29] I cannot get none of my torrents to seed properly [15:30] Im part of a private tracker and nothing is uploading [15:30] webinator: you need to ask in the wine channel about using windows apps in it - do /j #winehq [15:30] k [15:31] then if i download something like a different desktop how do i go about installing it [15:31] depends on the desktop [15:31] heh, cant seem to get it operating [15:32] most add an entry to the session button at login [15:32] well i wish i cantalk more nut i gotta go to work. see you guys when i get home. [15:44] I'm fairly certain I've installed flash, but it's not working [15:46] selsper, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer [15:47] BluesKaj: thank you [15:48] selsper, it should work for you [15:49] I did that, it seemed to work, but the likes of yt and vimeo still aren't working, do I need to install something for firefox too? [15:50] BluesKaj: [15:52] selsper, install libdvdcss2 to run/copy DRM protected dvds [15:53] not familiar with vimeo , selsper [15:53] I don't have any drm protected dvds to run [15:54] vimeo is like yt it uses flash, I was trying to see if that worked too, or wether the problem was exclusive to yt [15:54] well, it's still good to have..another you might check is ffmpeg [15:55] Alright [15:55] the flashplugin-installer should solve any browser falsh plugin probs , selsper [15:55] err flash [15:56] :P I understood [15:58] BBL [16:09] hey how do I make my own plasma panels please? [16:16] servus [16:17] hi any one like to chat [16:19] in kate i enable the tabify plugin.. on each restart of kate, it's gone.. any idea? === You're now known as ubuntulog [16:34] faydriss@Faydriss:/etc$ kdesudo kate sudoers sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting <~~~ what happened? [16:37] the last thing i did was sudo gadmin-samba and now my sudo is broke === You're now known as ubuntulog_ === You're now known as ubuntulog === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === ubuntu is now known as Bala [17:00] Hello [17:01] can anyone here help me === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:08] !ask | bala [17:08] bala: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [17:16] somebody know how to make vlc to show cyrylic fonts (russian)? === fer is now known as Guest44226 === sebastian_ is now known as Sebastian-Silver === Sebastian-Silver is now known as Sebast3ian [18:14] is there a good video converter for qt/kde/linux [18:15] I have somehow messed my system, such that winebrowser is the default on my system. where do I fix it? [18:18] apparle, ffmpeg is a good cli video converter [18:18] apparle: System Settings > Default Applications normally [18:18] a good gui [18:19] rork: it is alright there [18:20] the gui version of ffmpeg is winff, apparle [18:21] BluesKaj: but is it good, does it have all the options? [18:24] gute nacht [18:25] apparle, http://winff.org/html_new/ [18:25] !de | DiogenesW [18:25] DiogenesW: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [18:25] ubottu i think you can stand those few words [18:25] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:26] oh [18:26] ok DiogenesW , good evening to you too :) [18:33] BluesKaj: winff is dumb [18:43] apparle, most video gui converters are dumb , you could try avidemux , but i prefer ffmpeg in the cli. Go to the ffmpeg site for a very connvincing tutorial as to why cli is superior to gui clunkiness :) [18:45] BluesKaj: I know how to use ffmpeg cli... but I am looking for a good gui for ffmpeg or mencoder [18:45] BluesKaj: like format factory on windows [18:45] BluesKaj: although it is not perfect but way better than winff [18:47] apparle, if you find a perfect converter app , pls let me know [18:48] BluesKaj: I am thinking of writing a gui for both ffmpeg and mencoder [18:48] apparle, be my guest :) [18:50] BluesKaj: but if I get enough time. [18:51] BluesKaj: I am thinking, I would make it such a way that it would generate cli code for any cli converter..... by looking up a xml file or something like that [18:53] winff already does that [18:55]