| kristian-aalborg | hey, it worked | 00:42 |
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| kristian-aalborg | added about 260 mb to a (very) full install of ubuntu | 00:43 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: lubuntu will run on about 512MB at a push, if it found your existing swap area, you should be happy with it, else use the advanced options on partitioning and tell it where your swap area is. | 00:47 |
| kristian-aalborg | phillw: I have no swap as it's a ssd | 00:48 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: i've just sent you an invite. | 00:48 |
| kristian-aalborg | sorry, I don't see it? | 00:49 |
| phillw | try the command /join #lubuntu-offtopic | 00:50 |
| kristian-aalborg | hmm | 01:14 |
| kristian-aalborg | so first time I ran lubuntu, everything went smooth except that I could not log out except via the terminal | 01:15 |
| kristian-aalborg | now I don't even have the option to choose lubuntu when I start up | 01:20 |
| kristian-aalborg | and, I still have GDM - shouldn't LXDM be default? | 01:20 |
| head_victim | GDM will still run you just have to select the different session type down the bottom | 01:21 |
| kristian-aalborg | hi head_victim | 01:21 |
| head_victim | Gday kristian-aalborg | 01:21 |
| kristian-aalborg | nope, Lubuntu is not there | 01:22 |
| kristian-aalborg | I have lxde, though | 01:22 |
| head_victim | lxde is the one you want. | 01:23 |
| kristian-aalborg | it does not start lubuntu :( | 01:23 |
| kristian-aalborg | it starts ubuntu + lxde | 01:23 |
| kristian-aalborg | (=not pretty) | 01:23 |
| head_victim | Odd, I don't recall that in the VM I set up prior to switching to Lubuntu | 01:24 |
| kristian-aalborg | head_victim, I think you missed the first part of the saga ;) | 01:25 |
| kristian-aalborg | this is "on top" of ubuntu, via aptitude | 01:26 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: then remove the gnome stuff :P | 01:27 |
| kristian-aalborg | this machine is not for me | 01:27 |
| head_victim | Yeah I did a VirtualBox install of gnome and installed lubuntu over the top | 01:27 |
| kristian-aalborg | I'm trying to showcase what can be done with OSS on it | 01:27 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors | 01:28 |
| kristian-aalborg | that's exactly what I did | 01:28 |
| phillw | then you will no longer have ubuntu (gnome) | 01:29 |
| kristian-aalborg | huh? | 01:30 |
| kristian-aalborg | && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop | 01:30 |
| kristian-aalborg | this is what I did | 01:30 |
| phillw | nope, what does it tell you do? | 01:30 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: If you wish to get rid of an existing k/x/ed/ubuntu then head over to Pure LXDE. alter the very end from && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktopTo && sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop | 01:31 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: It's why we wrote the instructions :) | 01:32 |
| kristian-aalborg | yes | 01:32 |
| kristian-aalborg | so && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop *keeps* gnome | 01:32 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: you need to run the whole command from http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde and just alter the last bit. | 01:33 |
| kristian-aalborg | I have no intention of doing that | 01:34 |
| kristian-aalborg | in that case, I'd start over w/ lubuntu or something | 01:34 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: well, as it says, you will be running apps from both systems which is fine if you want to do so. | 01:34 |
| kristian-aalborg | yup | 01:35 |
| kristian-aalborg | but it bothers me that I can't log into the lubuntu desktop | 01:35 |
| phillw | did you install the ppa? | 01:36 |
| kristian-aalborg | yes | 01:36 |
| kristian-aalborg | everything but the key | 01:36 |
| phillw | well, without the key, you will not get the packages, that is part of linux security. | 01:37 |
| kristian-aalborg | ahhh | 01:37 |
| kristian-aalborg | sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4 | 01:40 |
| kristian-aalborg | what would the exact command be? | 01:40 |
| phillw | IDK, if you did not accept the ppa key I'll have to go and ask. | 01:41 |
| kristian-aalborg | I was not asked to? | 01:42 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: I'm just double checking on it, I'm not ignoring you; please give me a few minutes. | 01:45 |
| kristian-aalborg | np | 01:45 |
| * kristian-aalborg lights a cig | 01:45 | |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa again, accept the gpg key and will overwrite the exisiting one, there after you can do the update. | 01:49 |
| kristian-aalborg | k | 01:50 |
| kristian-aalborg | error 2, name or service not found | 01:52 |
| kristian-aalborg | btw, would you happen to have some ram for sale? | 01:53 |
| kristian-aalborg | or swap, perhaps... I have some that might fit your box | 01:53 |
| kristian-aalborg | whoa | 01:53 |
| kristian-aalborg | I'm tired... typing in the wrong window | 01:54 |
| kristian-aalborg | error 2 was true, though ;) | 01:54 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: I only have spare laptop RAM. | 01:54 |
| kristian-aalborg | phillw: old stuff? | 01:54 |
| kristian-aalborg | as in, pc 100 or preferably 66? | 01:54 |
| phillw | 256MB sticks, I've got two of the little horrors gathering dust. | 01:55 |
| kristian-aalborg | got a paypal account? | 01:56 |
| phillw | kristian-aalborg: I've tried to sell them on ebay for 99p, but no one wants them. They're out of my system when I did the upgrade, I also have some desktop RAM from a DELL computer that is also gathering dust. | 01:57 |
| kristian-aalborg | phillw: I'd be glad to have it | 02:01 |
| kristian-aalborg | wow, I have somehow broken wireless also | 02:12 |
| kristian-aalborg | so, the LTS is 10.4 | 10:23 |
| kristian-aalborg | ? | 10:23 |
| bioterror | yes | 10:23 |
| kristian-aalborg | k | 10:24 |
| kristian-aalborg | and default file system is...? | 10:24 |
| kristian-aalborg | ext4? | 10:24 |
| bioterror | if you want | 10:26 |
| bioterror | at least I'm running Ext4 on a 10.04 machine | 10:26 |
| kristian-aalborg | I'd prefer ext2 on the ssd | 10:27 |
| bioterror | yeah and I would prefer fat16 | 10:27 |
| bioterror | there's no proof that journaling system is bad for SSD | 10:28 |
| bioterror | if there is, I would stand corrected if someone points that to me | 10:28 |
| kristian-aalborg | fat16 rocks :P | 10:30 |
| kristian-aalborg | bioterror: this is first-gen ssd | 10:32 |
| kristian-aalborg | how much space will 10.4 take? | 10:53 |
| Timo_ | hi kristian-aalborg what 10.04 exactly? | 10:53 |
| Timo_ | Ubuntu regular? Lubuntu? Lubuntu-desktop uppon Ubuntu? | 10:53 |
| kristian-aalborg | Lubuntu | 10:54 |
| Timo_ | mm | 10:54 |
| Timo_ | should be somewhere in wiki | 10:54 |
| Timo_ | lemme check | 10:54 |
| Timo_ | mm my laptop runs 10.10 I can check how much is taken out there if u like? | 10:56 |
| Timo_ | cos I don't seem to find it on the wiki | 10:56 |
| Timo_ | but it should be something like 2 gb | 10:56 |
| Timo_ | friTTe|: hi are you here? | 10:59 |
| Timo_ | zkriesse: u here? phillw? :D | 10:59 |
| kristian-aalborg | Timo_: I'm glad I'm not the only one who could see it in the wiki ;) | 11:02 |
| kristian-aalborg | thing is, I have a 2gb internal drive that it would be cool to keep it on - the box seems to boot faster from that | 11:03 |
| sultan2 | I think that searching at Linux Questions (LQ) would be better than http://www.linuxidx.com/ I mean what the benefits are? | 11:05 |
| kristian-aalborg | LQ is good | 11:07 |
| kristian-aalborg | I don't know the other | 11:07 |
| Timo_ | mm kristian-aalborg I would wait for an answer here | 11:08 |
| Timo_ | and as soon as I know it I'll put it on wiki | 11:08 |
| kristian-aalborg | Timo_: yup, your df -h should give me something to go by | 11:08 |
| kristian-aalborg | cool | 11:08 |
| Timo_ | as it's pretty basic info | 11:08 |
| Timo_ | which is quite necessary to some | 11:08 |
| Timo_ | kristian-aalborg: with my 10.10 lubuntu I use 2.4 gb | 11:10 |
| kristian-aalborg | ah bugger | 11:10 |
| Timo_ | but | 11:11 |
| Timo_ | it's not a default install | 11:11 |
| Timo_ | I've got Java installed, NetBeans IDE, Firefox | 11:11 |
| kristian-aalborg | hurm | 11:11 |
| Timo_ | bugger | 11:12 |
| kristian-aalborg | ah whatever... I'll just pop it in and see what happens | 11:12 |
| Timo_ | why should it be so hard to know how much a system takes @ space | 11:12 |
| Timo_ | :P | 11:12 |
| Timo_ | soz, I thought I had a clear install | 11:12 |
| Timo_ | but obviously it's not | 11:12 |
| kristian-aalborg | they don't stay clear very long ;) | 11:13 |
| kristian-aalborg | I think the installation says someting like 2,3 gb | 11:13 |
| Timo_ | mm k | 11:13 |
| Timo_ | that's a pity :( | 11:13 |
| kristian-aalborg | I'll have to see later, when I get home from work | 11:14 |
| Timo_ | I know installs won't stay clean for long | 11:14 |
| Timo_ | but I actually never used my lubuntu partition | 11:14 |
| Timo_ | it's on my laptop, and I use LinuxMint on it | 11:14 |
| Timo_ | so I've just installed it some weeks ago | 11:14 |
| Timo_ | but apparently I also installed some software on it | 11:14 |
| Timo_ | at the time of installing the system | 11:14 |
| Timo_ | so that's a pity | 11:14 |
| kristian-aalborg | most "full" distros take up that kind of space these days | 11:15 |
| head_victim | Depends on what you want to do with the installation you can get it under 2gb. | 11:16 |
| kristian-aalborg | head_victim: yes, I can do without some things | 11:16 |
| kristian-aalborg | webcam + media burner apps | 11:16 |
| kristian-aalborg | but | 11:16 |
| kristian-aalborg | not easily if the installation takes up more space than I have | 11:17 |
| head_victim | Look at the mini install | 11:17 |
| head_victim | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall | 11:17 |
| Timo_ | but head_victim | 11:17 |
| Timo_ | if you install "lubuntu-desktop" you get all the lubuntu packages don't you? | 11:18 |
| kristian-aalborg | it's not the end of the world | 11:18 |
| Timo_ | so that still gets it up to 2.3gb? | 11:18 |
| Timo_ | kristian-aalborg: it is! | 11:18 |
| Timo_ | :P | 11:18 |
| head_victim | Yes, but a fresh mini install will take up LOTS less space than a normal ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop on it | 11:18 |
| kristian-aalborg | I could install, trim down and copy everything to the smaller dir | 11:18 |
| Timo_ | head_victim: but I think he was about to install it from a live Lubuntu cd | 11:19 |
| head_victim | If you're going to start from scratch, seriously, start with the mini install if you want to make it use as little disk spacea spossible. | 11:19 |
| head_victim | That way you only install the programs you need. | 11:19 |
| kristian-aalborg | this is an early Eee... perhaps the minimal would be better | 11:20 |
| kristian-aalborg | but, I like the idea of a full OS to show what gnu/linux is | 11:21 |
| head_victim | You won't get a "full" OS on 2gb. | 11:21 |
| kristian-aalborg | full-ish | 11:21 |
| kristian-aalborg | I have 6gb total | 11:21 |
| kristian-aalborg | but media on the external 4 gb would be sweet | 11:22 |
| head_victim | You might be better off using a 4gb usb thumb drive with persistence. | 11:22 |
| kristian-aalborg | head_victim: it's not a thumb drive, it is an sd card | 11:23 |
| kristian-aalborg | a sd card, even | 11:23 |
| kristian-aalborg | no wait... an | 11:24 |
| head_victim | Oh ok, thought it was just all the space you had available on the internal ssd. | 11:24 |
| kristian-aalborg | *pedantic mode off" | 11:24 |
| kristian-aalborg | I have 2 gb sdd and 4 gb sd | 11:24 |
| head_victim | Fair enough, it's possible to get it down under 2gb but it won't be full featured. | 11:25 |
| kristian-aalborg | in that case, I'll just put in on the 4gb | 11:26 |
| kristian-aalborg | regardless, time to go to work | 11:30 |
| kristian-aalborg | see ya | 11:30 |
| Timo_ | cu | 11:30 |
| kaemo | hi folks | 12:33 |
| kaemo | is there a way to change panel's and windowbar's font? it's bigger then in-window font and doesn't wanna change using 'customize look and feel' app | 12:41 |
| bioterror | really | 12:41 |
| bioterror | from settings | 12:41 |
| bioterror | there was a certain application where you can change fonts | 12:42 |
| bioterror | but | 12:42 |
| bioterror | I think you can do it by tweaking that .config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml or what was it | 12:42 |
| kaemo | I'll give it a try | 12:42 |
| kaemo | it seems this will do the trick | 12:45 |
| bioterror | oh yeah | 12:45 |
| kaemo | thanks bioterror | 12:45 |
| bioterror | np | 12:45 |
| kaemo | brb then | 12:45 |
| bioterror | o// | 12:46 |
| bioterror | hi again | 12:50 |
| kaemo | :) | 12:50 |
| kaemo | it look like i had to different dpi settings for lxde apps | 12:51 |
| kaemo | s/had/have | 12:51 |
| kaemo | two* | 12:51 |
| kaemo | argh | 12:51 |
| kaemo | first things first - how can i make my lubuntu dekstop automaically encryptfs-mount-private when logging into lxde? | 12:57 |
| bioterror | dunno | 12:58 |
| bioterror | never needed | 12:58 |
| kosaidpo | hello guys anyone can give me the path to the menu icon please | 14:41 |
| szczur | /usr/share/lxde/images/lxde-icon.png ? | 14:56 |
| bioterror | kossaidpo is making his own rmx?-) | 14:58 |
| szczur | :P | 14:58 |
| szczur | kosbuntu :) | 14:58 |
| kosaidpo | szczur: no such file :p | 14:59 |
| szczur | hmmm | 14:59 |
| kosaidpo | bioterror: no im not haha i tho abt use that pack of icone of the mx lubuntu looks pretty neat tho | 14:59 |
| szczur | what do you have in that folder? | 15:01 |
| kosaidpo | szczur: it doesnt exist hihihih | 15:02 |
| szczur | O_o | 15:02 |
| kosaidpo | well can you please just go to menu icon then click right and past to me the path | 15:02 |
| szczur | ahh, i;m not using pure lubuntu | 15:02 |
| szczur | right | 15:02 |
| szczur | sorry | 15:02 |
| kosaidpo | szczur: ooh okies | 15:02 |
| kosaidpo | thanks tho | 15:03 |
| szczur | /usr/share/lubuntu/images/lubuntu-logo.png | 15:04 |
| szczur | try this | 15:04 |
| kosaidpo | found it szczur | 15:05 |
| kosaidpo | i guess its the same | 15:05 |
| kosaidpo | not sure | 15:05 |
| kosaidpo | /usr/share/icons/lubuntu/places/128/start-here.svg | 15:05 |
| kosaidpo | ill check urs | 15:05 |
| kosaidpo | szczur: same | 15:06 |
| szczur | ok, now i can remove these packages :P | 15:06 |
| szczur | xD | 15:06 |
| kosaidpo | szczur: :-D | 15:06 |
| leszek | hi | 15:24 |
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| Kurdistan | hey guys | 20:08 |
| Kurdistan | finally here | 20:08 |
| Kurdistan | guys are the lubuntu 10.10 updated? | 20:08 |
| kristian-aalborg | also. if I may suggest a link to the previous releases somewhere? | 20:30 |
| Kurdistan | kristian aalborg have you take any look to lubuntu.net? | 20:30 |
| Kurdistan | you have lubuntu 10.04 there. | 20:31 |
| Kurdistan | http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1004-now-available-download | 20:31 |
| mark76 | Hey. I tried to log into LXDE/Lubuntu and got an XSessions error of too many arguments | 21:14 |
| kristian-aalborg | mark76: it's unlikely that I can help | 21:26 |
| kristian-aalborg | but, if you're more specific the better thinkers have a better chance ;) | 21:26 |
| kristian-aalborg | was this on an installation or a live medium? | 21:27 |
| mark76 | Installed | 21:27 |
| lithpr | mark76, are you using spaces in your password? | 21:31 |
| mark76 | Nope | 21:31 |
| kosaidpo | hello guys | 21:32 |
| kosaidpo | im lookin for a php debugger any idea guys | 21:33 |
| lithpr | probably not the best channel to ask that question in :) | 21:33 |
| phillw | kosaidpo: try #php, they're really nice people (it mat be ##php) | 21:34 |
| phillw | /s/mat/may | 21:35 |
| kosaidpo | phillw: it doesnt work it take me to #overflow | 21:35 |
| phillw | kosaidpo: /join ##php | 21:37 |
| kosaidpo | yeh it takes me to ##overflow | 21:37 |
| kosaidpo | try it out phillw | 21:37 |
| phillw | kosaidpo: (16/11/10 21:36:14) ChanServ: (notice) [##php] Welcome to ##PHP. Please read the guidelines. | 21:38 |
| phillw | kosaidpo: but I always use /join #php ;) | 21:39 |
| kosaidpo | phillw: its #PHP i guess | 21:39 |
| kosaidpo | phillw: they said it needs an invitation | 21:39 |
| phillw | no, it is in lower case, not capitals. | 21:39 |
| kosaidpo | phillw: so weird i cant get there | 21:40 |
| kosaidpo | you gere phillw | 21:40 |
| kosaidpo | phillw: you there at ##php ? | 21:40 |
| phillw | kosaidpo: give me a few minutes and I'll have chat with that team. As you know I work accross teams. | 21:40 |
| phillw | kosaidpo: I logged on and then logged off. | 21:41 |
| kosaidpo | phillw: okay thaks | 21:41 |
| kristian-aalborg | damn | 23:19 |
| kristian-aalborg | how do I hide/disable non-working lxdm sessions?! | 23:20 |
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