[00:42] hey, it worked [00:43] added about 260 mb to a (very) full install of ubuntu [00:47] kristian-aalborg: lubuntu will run on about 512MB at a push, if it found your existing swap area, you should be happy with it, else use the advanced options on partitioning and tell it where your swap area is. [00:48] phillw: I have no swap as it's a ssd [00:48] kristian-aalborg: i've just sent you an invite. [00:49] sorry, I don't see it? [00:50] try the command /join #lubuntu-offtopic [01:14] hmm [01:15] so first time I ran lubuntu, everything went smooth except that I could not log out except via the terminal [01:20] now I don't even have the option to choose lubuntu when I start up [01:20] and, I still have GDM - shouldn't LXDM be default? [01:21] GDM will still run you just have to select the different session type down the bottom [01:21] hi head_victim [01:21] Gday kristian-aalborg [01:22] nope, Lubuntu is not there [01:22] I have lxde, though [01:23] lxde is the one you want. [01:23] it does not start lubuntu :( [01:23] it starts ubuntu + lxde [01:23] (=not pretty) [01:24] Odd, I don't recall that in the VM I set up prior to switching to Lubuntu [01:25] head_victim, I think you missed the first part of the saga ;) [01:26] this is "on top" of ubuntu, via aptitude [01:27] kristian-aalborg: then remove the gnome stuff :P [01:27] this machine is not for me [01:27] Yeah I did a VirtualBox install of gnome and installed lubuntu over the top [01:27] I'm trying to showcase what can be done with OSS on it [01:28] kristian-aalborg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors [01:28] that's exactly what I did [01:29] then you will no longer have ubuntu (gnome) [01:30] huh? [01:30] && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [01:30] this is what I did [01:30] nope, what does it tell you do? [01:31] kristian-aalborg: If you wish to get rid of an existing k/x/ed/ubuntu then head over to Pure LXDE. alter the very end from && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktopTo && sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop [01:32] kristian-aalborg: It's why we wrote the instructions :) [01:32] yes [01:32] so && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop *keeps* gnome [01:33] kristian-aalborg: you need to run the whole command from http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde and just alter the last bit. [01:34] I have no intention of doing that [01:34] in that case, I'd start over w/ lubuntu or something [01:34] kristian-aalborg: well, as it says, you will be running apps from both systems which is fine if you want to do so. [01:35] yup [01:35] but it bothers me that I can't log into the lubuntu desktop [01:36] did you install the ppa? [01:36] yes [01:36] everything but the key [01:37] well, without the key, you will not get the packages, that is part of linux security. [01:37] ahhh [01:40] sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4 [01:40] what would the exact command be? [01:41] IDK, if you did not accept the ppa key I'll have to go and ask. [01:42] I was not asked to? [01:45] kristian-aalborg: I'm just double checking on it, I'm not ignoring you; please give me a few minutes. [01:45] np [01:45] * kristian-aalborg lights a cig [01:49] kristian-aalborg: run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa again, accept the gpg key and will overwrite the exisiting one, there after you can do the update. [01:50] k [01:52] error 2, name or service not found [01:53] btw, would you happen to have some ram for sale? [01:53] or swap, perhaps... I have some that might fit your box [01:53] whoa [01:54] I'm tired... typing in the wrong window [01:54] error 2 was true, though ;) [01:54] kristian-aalborg: I only have spare laptop RAM. [01:54] phillw: old stuff? [01:54] as in, pc 100 or preferably 66? [01:55] 256MB sticks, I've got two of the little horrors gathering dust. [01:56] got a paypal account? [01:57] kristian-aalborg: I've tried to sell them on ebay for 99p, but no one wants them. They're out of my system when I did the upgrade, I also have some desktop RAM from a DELL computer that is also gathering dust. [02:01] phillw: I'd be glad to have it [02:12] wow, I have somehow broken wireless also [10:23] so, the LTS is 10.4 [10:23] ? [10:23] yes [10:24] k [10:24] and default file system is...? [10:24] ext4? [10:26] if you want [10:26] at least I'm running Ext4 on a 10.04 machine [10:27] I'd prefer ext2 on the ssd [10:27] yeah and I would prefer fat16 [10:28] there's no proof that journaling system is bad for SSD [10:28] if there is, I would stand corrected if someone points that to me [10:30] fat16 rocks :P [10:32] bioterror: this is first-gen ssd [10:53] how much space will 10.4 take? [10:53] hi kristian-aalborg what 10.04 exactly? [10:53] Ubuntu regular? Lubuntu? Lubuntu-desktop uppon Ubuntu? [10:54] Lubuntu [10:54] mm [10:54] should be somewhere in wiki [10:54] lemme check [10:56] mm my laptop runs 10.10 I can check how much is taken out there if u like? [10:56] cos I don't seem to find it on the wiki [10:56] but it should be something like 2 gb [10:59] friTTe|: hi are you here? [10:59] zkriesse: u here? phillw? :D [11:02] Timo_: I'm glad I'm not the only one who could see it in the wiki ;) [11:03] thing is, I have a 2gb internal drive that it would be cool to keep it on - the box seems to boot faster from that [11:05] I think that searching at Linux Questions (LQ) would be better than http://www.linuxidx.com/ I mean what the benefits are? [11:07] LQ is good [11:07] I don't know the other [11:08] mm kristian-aalborg I would wait for an answer here [11:08] and as soon as I know it I'll put it on wiki [11:08] Timo_: yup, your df -h should give me something to go by [11:08] cool [11:08] as it's pretty basic info [11:08] which is quite necessary to some [11:10] kristian-aalborg: with my 10.10 lubuntu I use 2.4 gb [11:10] ah bugger [11:11] but [11:11] it's not a default install [11:11] I've got Java installed, NetBeans IDE, Firefox [11:11] hurm [11:12] bugger [11:12] ah whatever... I'll just pop it in and see what happens [11:12] why should it be so hard to know how much a system takes @ space [11:12] :P [11:12] soz, I thought I had a clear install [11:12] but obviously it's not [11:13] they don't stay clear very long ;) [11:13] I think the installation says someting like 2,3 gb [11:13] mm k [11:13] that's a pity :( [11:14] I'll have to see later, when I get home from work [11:14] I know installs won't stay clean for long [11:14] but I actually never used my lubuntu partition [11:14] it's on my laptop, and I use LinuxMint on it [11:14] so I've just installed it some weeks ago [11:14] but apparently I also installed some software on it [11:14] at the time of installing the system [11:14] so that's a pity [11:15] most "full" distros take up that kind of space these days [11:16] Depends on what you want to do with the installation you can get it under 2gb. [11:16] head_victim: yes, I can do without some things [11:16] webcam + media burner apps [11:16] but [11:17] not easily if the installation takes up more space than I have [11:17] Look at the mini install [11:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall [11:17] but head_victim [11:18] if you install "lubuntu-desktop" you get all the lubuntu packages don't you? [11:18] it's not the end of the world [11:18] so that still gets it up to 2.3gb? [11:18] kristian-aalborg: it is! [11:18] :P [11:18] Yes, but a fresh mini install will take up LOTS less space than a normal ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop on it [11:18] I could install, trim down and copy everything to the smaller dir [11:19] head_victim: but I think he was about to install it from a live Lubuntu cd [11:19] If you're going to start from scratch, seriously, start with the mini install if you want to make it use as little disk spacea spossible. [11:19] That way you only install the programs you need. [11:20] this is an early Eee... perhaps the minimal would be better [11:21] but, I like the idea of a full OS to show what gnu/linux is [11:21] You won't get a "full" OS on 2gb. [11:21] full-ish [11:21] I have 6gb total [11:22] but media on the external 4 gb would be sweet [11:22] You might be better off using a 4gb usb thumb drive with persistence. [11:23] head_victim: it's not a thumb drive, it is an sd card [11:23] a sd card, even [11:24] no wait... an [11:24] Oh ok, thought it was just all the space you had available on the internal ssd. [11:24] *pedantic mode off" [11:24] I have 2 gb sdd and 4 gb sd [11:25] Fair enough, it's possible to get it down under 2gb but it won't be full featured. [11:26] in that case, I'll just put in on the 4gb [11:30] regardless, time to go to work [11:30] see ya [11:30] cu [12:33] hi folks [12:41] is there a way to change panel's and windowbar's font? it's bigger then in-window font and doesn't wanna change using 'customize look and feel' app [12:41] really [12:41] from settings [12:42] there was a certain application where you can change fonts [12:42] but [12:42] I think you can do it by tweaking that .config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml or what was it [12:42] I'll give it a try [12:45] it seems this will do the trick [12:45] oh yeah [12:45] thanks bioterror [12:45] np [12:45] brb then [12:46] o// [12:50] hi again [12:50] :) [12:51] it look like i had to different dpi settings for lxde apps [12:51] s/had/have [12:51] two* [12:51] argh [12:57] first things first - how can i make my lubuntu dekstop automaically encryptfs-mount-private when logging into lxde? [12:58] dunno [12:58] never needed [14:41] hello guys anyone can give me the path to the menu icon please [14:56] /usr/share/lxde/images/lxde-icon.png ? [14:58] kossaidpo is making his own rmx?-) [14:58] :P [14:58] kosbuntu :) [14:59] szczur: no such file :p [14:59] hmmm [14:59] bioterror: no im not haha i tho abt use that pack of icone of the mx lubuntu looks pretty neat tho [15:01] what do you have in that folder? [15:02] szczur: it doesnt exist hihihih [15:02] O_o [15:02] well can you please just go to menu icon then click right and past to me the path [15:02] ahh, i;m not using pure lubuntu [15:02] right [15:02] sorry [15:02] szczur: ooh okies [15:03] thanks tho [15:04] /usr/share/lubuntu/images/lubuntu-logo.png [15:04] try this [15:05] found it szczur [15:05] i guess its the same [15:05] not sure [15:05] /usr/share/icons/lubuntu/places/128/start-here.svg [15:05] ill check urs [15:06] szczur: same [15:06] ok, now i can remove these packages :P [15:06] xD [15:06] szczur: :-D [15:24] hi === leszek_ is now known as leszek === You're now known as ubuntulog === You're now known as ubuntulog_ === You're now known as ubuntulog === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:08] hey guys [20:08] finally here [20:08] guys are the lubuntu 10.10 updated? [20:30] also. if I may suggest a link to the previous releases somewhere? [20:30] kristian aalborg have you take any look to lubuntu.net? [20:31] you have lubuntu 10.04 there. [20:31] http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1004-now-available-download [21:14] Hey. I tried to log into LXDE/Lubuntu and got an XSessions error of too many arguments [21:26] mark76: it's unlikely that I can help [21:26] but, if you're more specific the better thinkers have a better chance ;) [21:27] was this on an installation or a live medium? [21:27] Installed [21:31] mark76, are you using spaces in your password? [21:31] Nope [21:32] hello guys [21:33] im lookin for a php debugger any idea guys [21:33] probably not the best channel to ask that question in :) [21:34] kosaidpo: try #php, they're really nice people (it mat be ##php) [21:35] /s/mat/may [21:35] phillw: it doesnt work it take me to #overflow [21:37] kosaidpo: /join ##php [21:37] yeh it takes me to ##overflow [21:37] try it out phillw [21:38] kosaidpo: (16/11/10 21:36:14) ChanServ: (notice) [##php] Welcome to ##PHP. Please read the guidelines. [21:39] kosaidpo: but I always use /join #php ;) [21:39] phillw: its #PHP i guess [21:39] phillw: they said it needs an invitation [21:39] no, it is in lower case, not capitals. [21:40] phillw: so weird i cant get there [21:40] you gere phillw [21:40] phillw: you there at ##php ? [21:40] kosaidpo: give me a few minutes and I'll have chat with that team. As you know I work accross teams. [21:41] kosaidpo: I logged on and then logged off. [21:41] phillw: okay thaks [23:19] damn [23:20] how do I hide/disable non-working lxdm sessions?!