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| lool | ogra_ac: poke | 11:23 |
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| * ogra_ac falls over | 11:25 | |
| ogra_ac | hey lool | 11:25 |
| lool | ogra_ac: You wanted to merge back my x-loader changes which got dropped last cycle? | 11:26 |
| ogra_ac | yep | 11:26 |
| ogra_ac | still busy with WI tracker stuff | 11:26 |
| ogra_ac | its next on my list together with some leftover merges | 11:27 |
| lool | will you upload a fix for the FTBFS? | 11:27 |
| ogra_ac | is it urgent ? | 11:27 |
| ogra_ac | yes, that too | 11:27 |
| lool | I'd like to stop thinking about it, there were some build fixes in there | 11:27 |
| ogra_ac | right, stop thinking about it and move it to my brain ;) | 11:28 |
| ogra_ac | i havent forgotten it | 11:28 |
| lool | Ok | 11:28 |
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| ogra_ac | lool, rsalveti takes over x-loader (FYI) | 13:55 |
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| Sp0tter | I've been told that the pandaboard supports 1080p playback, but that xbmc and mythtv do not work with that yet, but "ubuntu does".. could anyone clarify the usefulness of a pandaboard with ubuntu as a media front end? | 14:11 |
| * ogra_ac hasnt tried mythbuntu yet | 14:11 | |
| lool | ogra_ac: What does that mean? | 14:11 |
| lool | ogra_ac: Will he do the fishing? | 14:12 |
| ogra_ac | it plays full HD videos with totem for me | 14:12 |
| rsalveti | everything that uses gst will be able to do hd videos | 14:12 |
| ogra_ac | lool, he takes over bugfixing and re-merging of your packaging changes | 14:12 |
| Sp0tter | interesting, i'm thinkinga bout replacing my atom media computers with these | 14:12 |
| Sp0tter | pandaboards | 14:13 |
| rsalveti | Sp0tter: for natty we have a spec to propose a supported media center application to be used at arm | 14:13 |
| rsalveti | but anything that uses gst should work fine | 14:13 |
| ogra_ac | as long as you have all the TI addon packages ;) | 14:15 |
| ogra_ac | which you get by clicking the TI icon on the desktop after install | 14:15 |
| Sp0tter | ok so you would both recommend unbutu+pandaboard as a low power media frontend? | 14:15 |
| ogra_ac | well, what would you expect us to answer in the #ubuntu-arm channel :D | 14:16 |
| Sp0tter | i would expect knowledge and turth | 14:16 |
| Sp0tter | truth :) | 14:16 |
| ogra_ac | truth is that totem works fine and every other gst based frontend should too | 14:17 |
| rsalveti | Sp0tter: I'm planning to use it as my main media center | 14:17 |
| Sp0tter | the wiki says its a known bug that things don't work well if you are playing 1080p on a 1024 monitor, is this still an issue? | 14:17 |
| Sp0tter | rsalveti: do you know offhand how many watts it uses idle/load ? | 14:17 |
| rsalveti | easy to work with, small, doesn't consume much power and can decode in full hd without just fine | 14:17 |
| ogra_ac | and right, given that we plan to implement a spec for media center on panda in 11.04 plenty of us will use it that way | 14:17 |
| Sp0tter | my atom is eating up 32 idle / 39 load | 14:18 |
| ogra_ac | oh, panda surely takes less | 14:18 |
| rsalveti | Sp0tter: don't know offhand, but there was a discussion at the pandaboard m-l about how much power it consumes | 14:18 |
| Sp0tter | are there any guides for good homemade cases that you know of? | 14:19 |
| rsalveti | Sp0tter: there will be one, called bamboo | 14:19 |
| rsalveti | let me find the link | 14:19 |
| Sp0tter | i've seen the wiki for that, looks liek an expansion setup | 14:19 |
| hrw | Sp0tter: count 10W for pandaboard | 14:19 |
| ogra_ac | it has about the size of a CD cover you should be able to use something that size if you prefer custom made | 14:19 |
| Sp0tter | thanks hrw | 14:19 |
| rsalveti | http://elinux.org/Panda_Bamboo | 14:20 |
| * hrw wants Dave to release bamboo... | 14:20 | |
| ogra_ac | note that TI hasnt added any power management to the kernel yet | 14:20 |
| rsalveti | true | 14:20 |
| ogra_ac | the power consumption will drop drastically in 11.04 | 14:20 |
| Sp0tter | whats the eta on 11.04 | 14:20 |
| hrw | sure, but you can use board with 750mA so with 2A it should fly | 14:20 |
| ogra_ac | 201104 | 14:20 |
| ogra_ac | ;) | 14:20 |
| ogra_ac | april that means ;) | 14:21 |
| hrw | I use 5V 3.5A psu with panda | 14:21 |
| Sp0tter | i wish there were not a 1 month wait right now heh | 14:21 |
| hrw | as smaller ones were 1A only | 14:21 |
| Sp0tter | a lot can change in 1 month | 14:21 |
| Sp0tter | to order a pandaboard i mean | 14:21 |
| ogra_ac | indeed | 14:21 |
| hrw | Sp0tter: sure, atom N550 will arrive in cheap miniitx boards | 14:21 |
| hrw | and will replace d525 maybe | 14:22 |
| Sp0tter | my two media computer have Atom 330's in them, they don't support speed stepping | 14:23 |
| hrw | terrible... | 14:24 |
| Sp0tter | yea they were about $230 each total too, i really wish i had held out for a pandaboard for at least one of them | 14:24 |
| ogra_ac | they have a fan i bet | 14:25 |
| Sp0tter | they dont have to, but i added one | 14:26 |
| Sp0tter | they come passive cooled | 14:26 |
| Sp0tter | but it makes me nervous | 14:26 |
| ogra_ac | panda wont need any cooling | 14:26 |
| Sp0tter | yea lack of noise in the bedroom is a nice feature | 14:26 |
| ogra_ac | it doesnt go over 70°C | 14:26 |
| Sp0tter | i think the atom was at 70c | 14:26 |
| ogra_ac | even under the heaviest laod and without any PM | 14:26 |
| Sp0tter | and the fan puts it clsoer to 40c | 14:27 |
| ogra_ac | with PM i would expect it to stay aroud 50 | 14:27 |
| ogra_ac | or less | 14:27 |
| Sp0tter | 42c | 14:27 |
| Sp0tter | is what i'm at right now | 14:27 |
| * rsalveti lunch | 14:28 | |
| Sp0tter | with 1 80mm case fan | 14:28 |
| hrw | fans... radiators... | 14:32 |
| hrw | I have 3x140mm fans in desktop case (one in psu) and nearly 1kg of al/cu on cpu | 14:33 |
| * ogra_ac doesnt have any fans around him anymore | 14:33 | |
| ogra_ac | thats something i really love about the ac100 | 14:33 |
| hrw | I cant work with 10" screen and crappy keyboard | 14:34 |
| hrw | I cant work with non-ergonomical keyboard basically | 14:35 |
| ogra_ac | i really have a prob to adapt to my normal lappie since i use the ac100 constantly | 14:38 |
| Sp0tter | no fans? that is nice | 14:38 |
| Sp0tter | my desktop has 6 full size fans | 14:38 |
| Sp0tter | 120 to 160mm | 14:38 |
| Sp0tter | quite loud | 14:38 |
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| GrueMaster | Looks like the Beagle XM DVI fix was reverted instead of being released. | 18:53 |
| ogra_ac | ask the kernel team | 18:54 |
| ogra_ac | i think they changed their bug policies | 18:54 |
| GrueMaster | Looking at bjf's email. | 18:54 |
| GrueMaster | It was reverted for "lack of verification". | 18:54 |
| ogra_ac | yes, i get the bugmail too | 18:55 |
| GrueMaster | Even though it was tested and verified. | 18:55 |
| ogra_ac | right | 18:55 |
| ogra_ac | the tag wasnt changed though | 18:56 |
| rsalveti | it was | 18:56 |
| rsalveti | I turned it back because I thought it was tested with linaro's kernel | 18:56 |
| ogra_ac | you added verification-needed two days ago | 18:56 |
| rsalveti | don't know if it really got reverted, but we need to ping the kernel team about it | 18:56 |
| Neko | whats the beagle xm dvi bug? | 18:56 |
| GrueMaster | sigh. Now we get to go through the whole verification process again. | 18:57 |
| aksh | hi all i have .c prgram which i compiled using arm tool chain now i like to emulate it on x86 system ,, can anyone tell how to emulate arm executable on x86 | 18:57 |
| rsalveti | ogra_ac: but before that it was already as verification-done | 18:57 |
| Neko | 663642? | 18:57 |
| GrueMaster | Neko: It fixes the A3 change that requires a gpio for dvi to work. | 18:57 |
| rsalveti | and 2 days ago it was already in the limit, that was nov 11 | 18:57 |
| Neko | oh so just a change here.. ok | 18:57 |
| GrueMaster | aksh: qemu | 18:57 |
| GrueMaster | rsalveti: It was tested on Nov 8. | 18:58 |
| aksh | GrueMaster, i have installed qemu but dont know exactly how to | 18:58 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: on time | 18:58 |
| aksh | i am newto arm | 18:58 |
| rsalveti | so I don't know why it was automatically reverted | 18:58 |
| Neko | UGHHH | 18:59 |
| ogra_ac | how about we go over to #ubuntu-kernel and talk to brad instead ? | 18:59 |
| Neko | is it so hard for the damn beagleboard guys to ship a PDF with an index | 18:59 |
| Neko | anyone know what dvi transmitter they use on XM? | 19:00 |
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| ogra_ac | look into the TRM (and ask on #beagle for the url, i dont have it) | 19:01 |
| Neko | I have the TRM | 19:03 |
| Neko | but searching through the damn thing for real page numbers .. bah | 19:03 |
| Neko | okay I got it, TFP410 | 19:03 |
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| Neko | I'm wondering if there is a decent LVDS to HDMI bridge around somewhere | 19:05 |
| Neko | I'm guessing that's kinda painful as most LVDS display buses only go up to 112MHz :( | 19:10 |
| Neko | sigh sigh | 19:10 |
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