=== JaMa|Zzz is now known as JaMa|Wrk === amitk is now known as amitk-afk === amitk-afk is now known as amitk === hrw|gone is now known as hrw === asac_ is now known as asac [11:23] ogra_ac: poke [11:25] * ogra_ac falls over [11:25] hey lool [11:26] ogra_ac: You wanted to merge back my x-loader changes which got dropped last cycle? [11:26] yep [11:26] still busy with WI tracker stuff [11:27] its next on my list together with some leftover merges [11:27] will you upload a fix for the FTBFS? [11:27] is it urgent ? [11:27] yes, that too [11:27] I'd like to stop thinking about it, there were some build fixes in there [11:28] right, stop thinking about it and move it to my brain ;) [11:28] i havent forgotten it [11:28] Ok === amitk is now known as amitk-afk [13:55] lool, rsalveti takes over x-loader (FYI) === xfaf is now known as zul [14:11] I've been told that the pandaboard supports 1080p playback, but that xbmc and mythtv do not work with that yet, but "ubuntu does".. could anyone clarify the usefulness of a pandaboard with ubuntu as a media front end? [14:11] * ogra_ac hasnt tried mythbuntu yet [14:11] ogra_ac: What does that mean? [14:12] ogra_ac: Will he do the fishing? [14:12] it plays full HD videos with totem for me [14:12] everything that uses gst will be able to do hd videos [14:12] lool, he takes over bugfixing and re-merging of your packaging changes [14:12] interesting, i'm thinkinga bout replacing my atom media computers with these [14:13] pandaboards [14:13] Sp0tter: for natty we have a spec to propose a supported media center application to be used at arm [14:13] but anything that uses gst should work fine [14:15] as long as you have all the TI addon packages ;) [14:15] which you get by clicking the TI icon on the desktop after install [14:15] ok so you would both recommend unbutu+pandaboard as a low power media frontend? [14:16] well, what would you expect us to answer in the #ubuntu-arm channel :D [14:16] i would expect knowledge and turth [14:16] truth :) [14:17] truth is that totem works fine and every other gst based frontend should too [14:17] Sp0tter: I'm planning to use it as my main media center [14:17] the wiki says its a known bug that things don't work well if you are playing 1080p on a 1024 monitor, is this still an issue? [14:17] rsalveti: do you know offhand how many watts it uses idle/load ? [14:17] easy to work with, small, doesn't consume much power and can decode in full hd without just fine [14:17] and right, given that we plan to implement a spec for media center on panda in 11.04 plenty of us will use it that way [14:18] my atom is eating up 32 idle / 39 load [14:18] oh, panda surely takes less [14:18] Sp0tter: don't know offhand, but there was a discussion at the pandaboard m-l about how much power it consumes [14:19] are there any guides for good homemade cases that you know of? [14:19] Sp0tter: there will be one, called bamboo [14:19] let me find the link [14:19] i've seen the wiki for that, looks liek an expansion setup [14:19] Sp0tter: count 10W for pandaboard [14:19] it has about the size of a CD cover you should be able to use something that size if you prefer custom made [14:19] thanks hrw [14:20] http://elinux.org/Panda_Bamboo [14:20] * hrw wants Dave to release bamboo... [14:20] note that TI hasnt added any power management to the kernel yet [14:20] true [14:20] the power consumption will drop drastically in 11.04 [14:20] whats the eta on 11.04 [14:20] sure, but you can use board with 750mA so with 2A it should fly [14:20] 201104 [14:20] ;) [14:21] april that means ;) [14:21] I use 5V 3.5A psu with panda [14:21] i wish there were not a 1 month wait right now heh [14:21] as smaller ones were 1A only [14:21] a lot can change in 1 month [14:21] to order a pandaboard i mean [14:21] indeed [14:21] Sp0tter: sure, atom N550 will arrive in cheap miniitx boards [14:22] and will replace d525 maybe [14:23] my two media computer have Atom 330's in them, they don't support speed stepping [14:24] terrible... [14:24] yea they were about $230 each total too, i really wish i had held out for a pandaboard for at least one of them [14:25] they have a fan i bet [14:26] they dont have to, but i added one [14:26] they come passive cooled [14:26] but it makes me nervous [14:26] panda wont need any cooling [14:26] yea lack of noise in the bedroom is a nice feature [14:26] it doesnt go over 70°C [14:26] i think the atom was at 70c [14:26] even under the heaviest laod and without any PM [14:27] and the fan puts it clsoer to 40c [14:27] with PM i would expect it to stay aroud 50 [14:27] or less [14:27] 42c [14:27] is what i'm at right now [14:28] * rsalveti lunch [14:28] with 1 80mm case fan [14:32] fans... radiators... [14:33] I have 3x140mm fans in desktop case (one in psu) and nearly 1kg of al/cu on cpu [14:33] * ogra_ac doesnt have any fans around him anymore [14:33] thats something i really love about the ac100 [14:34] I cant work with 10" screen and crappy keyboard [14:35] I cant work with non-ergonomical keyboard basically [14:38] i really have a prob to adapt to my normal lappie since i use the ac100 constantly [14:38] no fans? that is nice [14:38] my desktop has 6 full size fans [14:38] 120 to 160mm [14:38] quite loud === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === hrw is now known as hrw|gone === zyga is now known as zyga-afk === You're now known as ubuntulog === You're now known as ubuntulog_ === You're now known as ubuntulog === sbambrough is now known as scottb-lunch === zyga-afk is now known as zyga === JaMa|Wrk is now known as JaMa|Off [18:53] Looks like the Beagle XM DVI fix was reverted instead of being released. [18:54] ask the kernel team [18:54] i think they changed their bug policies [18:54] Looking at bjf's email. [18:54] It was reverted for "lack of verification". [18:55] yes, i get the bugmail too [18:55] Even though it was tested and verified. [18:55] right [18:56] the tag wasnt changed though [18:56] it was [18:56] I turned it back because I thought it was tested with linaro's kernel [18:56] you added verification-needed two days ago [18:56] don't know if it really got reverted, but we need to ping the kernel team about it [18:56] whats the beagle xm dvi bug? [18:57] sigh. Now we get to go through the whole verification process again. [18:57] hi all i have .c prgram which i compiled using arm tool chain now i like to emulate it on x86 system ,, can anyone tell how to emulate arm executable on x86 [18:57] ogra_ac: but before that it was already as verification-done [18:57] 663642? [18:57] Neko: It fixes the A3 change that requires a gpio for dvi to work. [18:57] and 2 days ago it was already in the limit, that was nov 11 [18:57] oh so just a change here.. ok [18:57] aksh: qemu [18:58] rsalveti: It was tested on Nov 8. [18:58] GrueMaster, i have installed qemu but dont know exactly how to [18:58] GrueMaster: on time [18:58] i am newto arm [18:58] so I don't know why it was automatically reverted [18:59] UGHHH [18:59] how about we go over to #ubuntu-kernel and talk to brad instead ? [18:59] is it so hard for the damn beagleboard guys to ship a PDF with an index [19:00] anyone know what dvi transmitter they use on XM? === scottb-lunch is now known as sbambrough [19:01] look into the TRM (and ask on #beagle for the url, i dont have it) [19:03] I have the TRM [19:03] but searching through the damn thing for real page numbers .. bah [19:03] okay I got it, TFP410 === robclark_ is now known as robclark [19:05] I'm wondering if there is a decent LVDS to HDMI bridge around somewhere [19:10] I'm guessing that's kinda painful as most LVDS display buses only go up to 112MHz :( [19:10] sigh sigh === hrw|gone is now known as hrw === hrw is now known as hrw|gone === robclark_ is now known as robclark