[11:23] <lool> ogra_ac: poke
[11:25]  * ogra_ac falls over
[11:25] <ogra_ac> hey lool
[11:26] <lool> ogra_ac: You wanted to merge back my x-loader changes which got dropped last cycle?
[11:26] <ogra_ac> yep
[11:26] <ogra_ac> still busy with WI tracker stuff
[11:27] <ogra_ac> its next on my list together with some leftover merges
[11:27] <lool> will you upload a fix for the FTBFS?
[11:27] <ogra_ac> is it urgent ?
[11:27] <ogra_ac> yes, that too
[11:27] <lool> I'd like to stop thinking about it, there were some build fixes in there
[11:28] <ogra_ac> right, stop thinking about it and move it to my brain ;)
[11:28] <ogra_ac> i havent forgotten it
[11:28] <lool> Ok
[13:55] <ogra_ac> lool, rsalveti takes over x-loader (FYI)
[14:11] <Sp0tter> I've been told that the pandaboard supports 1080p playback,  but that xbmc and mythtv do not work with that yet, but  "ubuntu does"..  could anyone clarify the usefulness of a  pandaboard with ubuntu as a media front end?
[14:11]  * ogra_ac hasnt tried mythbuntu yet
[14:11] <lool> ogra_ac: What does that mean?
[14:12] <lool> ogra_ac: Will he do the fishing?
[14:12] <ogra_ac> it plays full HD videos with totem for me
[14:12] <rsalveti> everything that uses gst will be able to do hd videos
[14:12] <ogra_ac> lool, he takes over bugfixing and re-merging of your packaging changes
[14:12] <Sp0tter> interesting, i'm thinkinga bout replacing my atom media computers with these
[14:13] <Sp0tter> pandaboards
[14:13] <rsalveti> Sp0tter: for natty we have a spec to propose a supported media center application to be used at arm
[14:13] <rsalveti> but anything that uses gst should work fine
[14:15] <ogra_ac> as long as you have all the TI addon packages ;)
[14:15] <ogra_ac> which you get by clicking the TI icon on the desktop after install
[14:15] <Sp0tter> ok so you would both recommend unbutu+pandaboard as a low power media frontend?
[14:16] <ogra_ac> well, what would you expect us to answer in the #ubuntu-arm channel :D
[14:16] <Sp0tter> i would expect knowledge and turth
[14:16] <Sp0tter> truth :)
[14:17] <ogra_ac> truth is that totem works fine and every other gst based frontend should too
[14:17] <rsalveti> Sp0tter: I'm planning to use it as my main media center
[14:17] <Sp0tter> the wiki says its a known bug that things don't work well if you are playing 1080p on a 1024 monitor, is this still an issue?
[14:17] <Sp0tter> rsalveti: do you know offhand how many watts it uses idle/load ?
[14:17] <rsalveti> easy to work with, small, doesn't consume much power and can decode in full hd without just fine
[14:17] <ogra_ac> and right, given that we plan to implement a spec for media center on panda in 11.04 plenty of us will use it that way
[14:18] <Sp0tter> my atom is eating up 32 idle / 39 load
[14:18] <ogra_ac> oh, panda surely takes less
[14:18] <rsalveti> Sp0tter: don't know offhand, but there was a discussion at the pandaboard m-l about how much power it consumes
[14:19] <Sp0tter> are there any guides for good homemade cases that you know of?
[14:19] <rsalveti> Sp0tter: there will be one, called bamboo
[14:19] <rsalveti> let me find the link
[14:19] <Sp0tter> i've seen the wiki for that, looks liek an expansion setup
[14:19] <hrw> Sp0tter: count 10W for pandaboard
[14:19] <ogra_ac> it has about the size of a CD cover you should be able to use something that size if you prefer custom made
[14:19] <Sp0tter> thanks hrw
[14:20] <rsalveti> http://elinux.org/Panda_Bamboo
[14:20]  * hrw  wants Dave to release bamboo...
[14:20] <ogra_ac> note that TI hasnt added any power management to the kernel yet
[14:20] <rsalveti> true
[14:20] <ogra_ac> the power consumption will drop drastically in 11.04
[14:20] <Sp0tter> whats the eta on 11.04
[14:20] <hrw> sure, but you can use board with 750mA so with 2A it should fly
[14:20] <ogra_ac> 201104
[14:20] <ogra_ac> ;)
[14:21] <ogra_ac> april that means ;)
[14:21] <hrw> I use 5V 3.5A psu with panda
[14:21] <Sp0tter> i wish there were not a  1 month wait right now heh
[14:21] <hrw> as smaller ones were 1A only
[14:21] <Sp0tter> a lot can change in 1 month
[14:21] <Sp0tter> to order a pandaboard i mean
[14:21] <ogra_ac> indeed
[14:21] <hrw> Sp0tter: sure, atom N550 will arrive in cheap miniitx boards
[14:22] <hrw> and will replace d525 maybe
[14:23] <Sp0tter> my two media computer have Atom 330's in them, they don't support speed stepping
[14:24] <hrw> terrible...
[14:24] <Sp0tter> yea they were about $230 each total too, i really wish i had held out for a pandaboard for at least one of them
[14:25] <ogra_ac> they have a fan i bet
[14:26] <Sp0tter> they dont have to, but i added one
[14:26] <Sp0tter> they come passive cooled
[14:26] <Sp0tter> but it makes me nervous
[14:26] <ogra_ac> panda wont need any cooling
[14:26] <Sp0tter> yea lack of noise in the bedroom is a nice feature
[14:26] <ogra_ac> it doesnt go over 70°C
[14:26] <Sp0tter> i think the atom was at 70c
[14:26] <ogra_ac> even under the heaviest laod and without any PM
[14:27] <Sp0tter> and the fan puts it clsoer to 40c
[14:27] <ogra_ac> with PM i would expect it to stay aroud 50
[14:27] <ogra_ac> or less
[14:27] <Sp0tter> 42c
[14:27] <Sp0tter> is what i'm at right now
[14:28]  * rsalveti lunch
[14:28] <Sp0tter> with 1 80mm case fan
[14:32] <hrw> fans... radiators...
[14:33] <hrw> I have 3x140mm fans in desktop case (one in psu) and nearly 1kg of al/cu on cpu
[14:33]  * ogra_ac doesnt have any fans around him anymore
[14:33] <ogra_ac> thats something i really love about the ac100
[14:34] <hrw> I cant work with 10" screen and crappy keyboard
[14:35] <hrw> I cant work with non-ergonomical keyboard basically
[14:38] <ogra_ac> i really have a prob to adapt to my normal lappie since i use the ac100 constantly
[14:38] <Sp0tter> no fans? that is nice
[14:38] <Sp0tter> my desktop has 6 full size fans
[14:38] <Sp0tter> 120 to 160mm
[14:38] <Sp0tter> quite loud
[18:53] <GrueMaster> Looks like the Beagle XM DVI fix was reverted instead of being released.
[18:54] <ogra_ac> ask the kernel team
[18:54] <ogra_ac> i think they changed their bug policies
[18:54] <GrueMaster> Looking at bjf's email.
[18:54] <GrueMaster> It was reverted for "lack of verification".
[18:55] <ogra_ac> yes, i get the bugmail too
[18:55] <GrueMaster> Even though it was tested and verified.
[18:55] <ogra_ac> right
[18:56] <ogra_ac> the tag wasnt changed though
[18:56] <rsalveti> it was
[18:56] <rsalveti> I turned it back because I thought it was tested with linaro's kernel
[18:56] <ogra_ac> you added verification-needed two days ago
[18:56] <rsalveti> don't know if it really got reverted, but we need to ping the kernel team about it
[18:56] <Neko> whats the beagle xm dvi bug?
[18:57] <GrueMaster> sigh.  Now we get to go through the whole verification process again.
[18:57] <aksh> hi all i have .c prgram which i compiled using arm tool chain now i like to emulate it on x86 system ,, can anyone tell how to emulate arm executable on x86
[18:57] <rsalveti> ogra_ac: but before that it was already as verification-done
[18:57] <Neko> 663642?
[18:57] <GrueMaster> Neko: It fixes the A3 change that requires a gpio for dvi to work.
[18:57] <rsalveti> and 2 days ago it was already in the limit, that was nov 11
[18:57] <Neko> oh so just a change here.. ok
[18:57] <GrueMaster> aksh: qemu
[18:58] <GrueMaster> rsalveti: It was tested on Nov 8.
[18:58] <aksh> GrueMaster, i have installed qemu but dont know exactly how to
[18:58] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: on time
[18:58] <aksh> i am newto arm
[18:58] <rsalveti> so I don't know why it was automatically reverted
[18:59] <Neko> UGHHH
[18:59] <ogra_ac> how about we go over to #ubuntu-kernel and talk to brad instead ?
[18:59] <Neko> is it so hard for the damn beagleboard guys to ship a PDF with an index
[19:00] <Neko> anyone know what dvi transmitter they use on XM?
[19:01] <ogra_ac> look into the TRM (and ask on #beagle for the url, i dont have it)
[19:03] <Neko> I have the TRM
[19:03] <Neko> but searching through the damn thing for real page numbers .. bah
[19:03] <Neko> okay I got it, TFP410
[19:05] <Neko> I'm wondering if there is a decent LVDS to HDMI bridge around somewhere
[19:10] <Neko> I'm guessing that's kinda painful as most LVDS display buses only go up to 112MHz :(
[19:10] <Neko> sigh sigh