[00:28] <SPooN> Julia looks so damn sexy
[00:42] <forer_> Hey guys, I have on my other computer settings for my e-mail and emails I'd like to transfer to my ubuntu box. Email client is thunderbird
[00:43] <forer_> is there any way of transfering emails and settings?
[00:43] <SPooN> download Thunderbird.
[00:43] <SPooN> it'll work on Linux!
[00:43]  * SPooN yay
[00:43] <forer_> I didn't want to use thunderbird on this computer though
[00:43] <forer_> unless the ubuntu thing in the top right actually will let that work
[00:44] <aveilleux> forer_: I don't think you can transfer between clients like that.
[00:44] <forer_> I hear it works commonly with everything [BUT] thunderbird
[00:44] <aveilleux> forer_: The Messaging Center works fine with Thunderbird
[00:44] <forer_> oh, snazzy
[00:44] <aveilleux> forer_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/how-to-add-thunderbird-to-the-ubuntu-messaging-menu/
[00:44] <SPooN> I never use the Broadcast accounts...
[00:44] <forer_> thanks
[00:45] <SPooN> don't get how it works
[00:46] <aveilleux> SPooN: I don't use them either, I actually don't use the messaging icon at all
[00:47] <SPooN> I technically logged into facebook with it, but I never get any notifications from it
[00:47] <forer_> I don't plan on using the broadcaster but the email I rarely check and I'm hoping it gives indications of new e-mails
[00:48] <aveilleux> forer_: Thunderbird has FireTray, you can use that instead.
[00:48] <forer_> huh
[00:48] <aveilleux> forer_: It's a plugin for Thunderbird that lets it minimize into the tray
[00:48] <forer_> cool
[00:48] <forer_> is there a package for it?
[00:49] <forer_> and how would I remove the messaging icon then?
[00:49] <aveilleux> forer_: Um, it's a Thunderbird plugin. Go to Tools > Add-Ons and click Find Add Ons and install Firetray.
[00:50] <aveilleux> forer_: To get rid of the messaging icon, you have to remove the... uh.. app it's contained in. I forget the name. But right-click > remove from panel. You'll lose your volume control app BUT there's a way to get that back.
[00:51] <forer_> that's fine
[00:51] <forer_> I'm on a laptop with fn+volume up and fn+volume down that works
[00:51] <aveilleux> forer_: I can walk you through that if you want
[00:51] <aveilleux> okay
[00:51] <forer_> so I don't use them
[00:53] <forer_> also just to doublecheck
[00:53] <forer_> I'm not expecting anyone to do an indepth doctorial essay on why this will or will not work but at a quick glance I should be able to just do this in reverse right? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=893617
[00:53] <aveilleux> forer_: Yes, that works.
[00:54] <aveilleux> forer_: Although if it's from Vista or 7 (not XP) the location is C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird
[01:16] <forer_> sorry stepped out a bit
[01:16] <forer_> and yeah it's 7, I'll find that quick
[01:20] <forer_> Sorry, remind me, apparently the thunderbird folder is /home/%user%/.thunderbird
[01:20] <forer_> the . means it's hidden right?
[01:20] <forer_> how do I access it in a file browser?
[01:20] <head_victim> forer_: yes you usually have to press control + h
[01:20] <forer_> thanks
[01:21] <aveilleux> forer_: You can also type ctrl+L and type the /.whatever
[01:23] <forer_> ahh, works fine now. thanks guys
[01:31] <SPooN> anyone know any good VM's that work on 10.10?
[01:31] <aveilleux> SPooN: Uh, VirtualBox.
[01:37] <SPooN> how do you run executable files...
[01:44] <antinatter> What is ubuntu?
[01:44] <pleia2> the ubuntu referred to here is an operating system
[01:46] <antinatter> Oh thanks
[01:46] <antinatter> What's it used for?
[01:47] <mbergamo> SPooN: May I ask what you are trying to install? You can usually find the same (or a similarly suitable) program that is made for GNU/Linux systems such as Ubuntu.
[01:47] <SPooN> I'm trying to run unetbootin
[01:48] <SPooN> Startup Disk Creator seems to be working though
[01:48] <SPooN> sooner or later I need to learn to use a VM to test this stuff instead of rebooting constantly...
[01:49] <aveilleux> SPooN: um... executable files are specific to the operating system. If it's a Linux executable, it's referred to as a "binary".
[01:49] <mbergamo> SPooN: If there is only an .exe you can use Wine
[01:49] <pleia2> SPooN: if it's not in the menu anywhere, you can just open a terminal and type: unetbootin
[01:49] <aveilleux> SPooN: Did you not see my suggestion to use VirtualBox above?
[01:49] <SPooN> yes, unsure as to how to get it to work though
[01:49] <mbergamo> SPooN: www.winehq.org/download/deb
[01:49] <aveilleux> SPooN: What's confusing you?
[01:50] <aveilleux> SPooN: You hit "new", select the OS, mount the startup disc (in the machine properties) and boot to the CD. Then the virtual machine runs just like a normal computer, but it's virtual.
[01:50] <SPooN> Oracle VM VirtualBOx right?
[01:50] <SPooN> what OS do you want to chose? mint 10 doesn't show up
[01:51] <SPooN> aveilleux^^
[01:51] <aveilleux> SPooN: Mint is based on Ubuntu.
[01:52] <SPooN> so ubuntu 64bit?
[01:52] <aveilleux> SPooN: Whatever version you're using, yes.
[01:52] <SPooN> ok
[01:53] <SPooN> do I want to Boot Hard Disk > Create new disk?
[01:53] <antinatter> Is ubuntu used for any particular devices?
[01:53] <aveilleux> SPooN: Uh, yes.
[01:53] <SPooN> antinatter... Laptops?
[01:54] <aveilleux> antinatter: Ubuntu is an operating system. It runs on the same hardware as Windows and Apple OSX.
[01:54] <aveilleux> antinatter: Think of it as being a replacement for Windows.
[01:54] <SPooN> dynamically expanding or fixed? (you see that I have no idea what I'm doing here right)
[01:54] <antinatter> Ok thanks
[01:54] <aveilleux> SPooN: Just pick the default options.
[01:54] <aveilleux> antinatter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_OS  When in doubt, Wikipedia.
[01:54] <antinatter> Thanks aveilleux
[01:55] <aveilleux> SPooN: When you choose the OS in the first step, the options are selected for you. You can choose all of the default options and run without trouble.
[01:56] <SPooN> aveilleux: it doesn't let me choose the USB to boot off of?
[01:56] <aveilleux> SPooN: What? Why are you trying to boot off of USB? You don't need to. You can boot into the disc image you downloaded from the Mint wensite.
[01:56] <aveilleux> website*
[01:57] <SPooN> how...
[01:57] <aveilleux> SPooN: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[01:58] <SPooN> thank you.
[01:58] <SPooN> Sorry I"m clueless :P
[02:03] <SPooN> aveilleux I still don't get it... No idea where you can enter in to get the .iso to boot off of
[02:04] <aveilleux> SPooN: Open up the VM's settings and go to Storage. Select the CD drive, hit the folder icon. Browse.
[02:05] <SPooN> aveilleux: doesn't work
[02:05] <SPooN> /home/alexandre/Desktop/unetbootin-linux-494
[02:05] <SPooN> crap
[02:05] <aveilleux> ....
[02:05] <aveilleux> You should not be selecting anything from unetbootn.
[02:06] <aveilleux> This is completely unrelated to unetbootn.
[02:06] <SPooN> ailed to open the CD/DVD image /home/alexandre/Desktop/unetbootin-linux-494.
[02:06] <SPooN> Could not open the medium '/home/alexandre/Desktop/unetbootin-linux-494'.
[02:06] <SPooN> VD: error VERR_VD_RAW_INVALID_HEADER opening image file '/home/alexandre/Desktop/unetbootin-linux-494' (VERR_VD_RAW_INVALID_HEADER).
[02:06] <aveilleux> Yes, that's because that's not a disc image
[02:06] <aveilleux> also
[02:06] <aveilleux> !pastebin | SPooN
[02:06] <ubot2> SPooN: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[02:07] <SPooN> aveilleux: got it working
[02:07] <SPooN> aveilleux: thanks for your help and patience
[02:07] <aveilleux> SPooN: Not problem
[02:08] <aveilleux> not a problem*
[02:09] <SPooN> hmm microphone doesn't work in Mint.
[02:15] <SPooN> can you dual boot Mint and Ubuntu?
[02:17] <aveilleux> SPooN: Considering they're both Linux distributions? Yes.
[02:17] <SPooN> well I mean I knew you could dualboot X/Windows + Linux. wasn't sure about two linux at once
[02:18] <SPooN> is the VM supposed to be so small aveilleux?
[02:18] <aveilleux> SPooN: I assume by "small" you mean "low-resolution". Yes, that's how Linux is without graphics drivers.
[02:19] <SPooN> ok. once I install or dualboot off of USB would it be normal res?
[02:20] <SPooN> hmm it keeps randomly crashing
[02:20] <SPooN> SPooN is now AWAY
[02:22] <aveilleux> SPooN: Uh, what? Booting off USB isn't dual-booting.
[02:32] <SPooN> SPooN is now BACK
[02:33] <SPooN> aveilleux: what is dualbooting to you?
[02:34] <aveilleux> SPooN: "Dual booting" means to install two operating systems side-by-side on the same host machine. Booting off of a USB stick or CD does not constitute dual-booting.
[02:37] <Mohan_chml> SPooN, For a beginner, it is difficult to shift to Ubuntu on a single day. so When one is with M$ or MAC for more than years, we first advise them to try Live CD, then install Ubuntu as a dual boot so that they can shift to the other OS if any urge. and when one thinks he/she don't need the previous OS, they can make a single boot =]
[02:38] <Mohan_chml> Hola aveilleux
[02:38] <aveilleux> Hello Mohan_chml
[02:40] <Mohan_chml> aveilleux, we were talking to each other and not to him :D
[03:01] <SPooN> k so mint is looking pretty awesome.
[03:01] <SPooN> just that in VM it crashes quit a bit hope thats only VM
[04:47] <trhisdone> hello
[04:47] <bioterror> hi
[04:50] <trhisdone> does anyone know how to hide the "boot information" im setting up a box for my daughter and i want it to boot right into ubuntu....right now there is a screen for 9secsods with choices then a login prompt and finally the ubuntu login
[04:50] <bioterror> yes
[04:51] <trhisdone> i dont want her messing with those
[04:51] <bioterror> just a moment
[04:51] <bioterror> last week we did this ;D
[04:51] <trhisdone> i know how to make the ubuntu login automatic but i dont want any of the other stuff up there either
[04:52] <bioterror> /etc/default/grub
[04:52] <bioterror> GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
[04:52] <bioterror> change that to 0
[04:53] <trhisdone> thanks
[04:54] <trhisdone> i finally got everything working, the sound card and printer were the hardest,,and my old usb wireless adapter that i found out will only do wep
[04:54] <bioterror> hahaha
[04:54] <bioterror> I've got wep too
[04:54] <trhisdone> spent an hour trying to connect with wpa
[04:55] <trhisdone> the messed up thing is the manual says it can do wpa
[04:55] <bioterror> Nintendo DS supports only WEP (or used to be!) and some old cards too
[04:55] <trhisdone> but it never did connect till i changed to wep
[04:55] <trhisdone> but thats not ubuntu's fault
[04:56] <PCChris> How do I start notification-daemon after I killed it because it glitched up?
[04:57] <PCChris> nvm, it may have started itself back up xD
[04:57] <bioterror> well laters, gotta flee to the train station ;)
[04:57] <trhisdone> thanks for the help
[04:58] <trhisdone> man the stuff people get rid of... i picked up a 2.8ghz p4 with 2gb ram, 160gb hard drive and dvd burner for $40
[05:01] <trhisdone> im still holding onto 10 new in the wrap zip disks....lol
[05:01] <trhisdone> maybe they can go in a musem some day
[05:20] <bioterror> remember to enable hyper threading
[05:20] <bioterror> trhisdone,
[05:20] <trhisdone> its show 2 processors in the system monitor so i think it sees the hyper threading
[05:20] <bioterror> yes
[05:20] <trhisdone> is there something else i have to do?
[05:21] <bioterror> not really, i think
[05:21] <trhisdone> ok
[05:21] <trhisdone> i got it setup with an xp theme so it looks similar to what she has used...she is only 8
[05:23] <bioterror> niice
[05:23] <bioterror> did you install edubuntu or what?
[05:23] <trhisdone> no just 10.04
[05:24] <trhisdone> as long as she can play some games and watch youtube she will be happy
[05:26] <UndiFineD> trhisdone, my kids have no issue switching between linux and windows, mosly elder / adult people find it much harder
[05:27] <UndiFineD> actually, showing the difference makes it eassier to recognize which platform the kid uses
[05:28] <trhisdone> i justed wanted something simple....push this button....click on this....youtube voila
[05:28] <trhisdone> some of those sites the kids go to are loaded with virus and spyware
[05:30] <trhisdone> she was on one with some pony where you can put clothes and stuff on it.......i had to reinstall my windows from a ghost backup after that... it had so much spyware and crap added to my computer
[05:30] <trhisdone> im hoping ubuntu will cut down on some of that stuff
[05:30] <UndiFineD> it will
[05:32] <trhisdone> i didn't know about edbuntu till i already mostly set this computer up
[05:32] <trhisdone> i don't want to start over
[05:34] <UndiFineD> edubuntu can be loaded on top
[05:34] <UndiFineD> just like medibuntu
[05:34] <UndiFineD> or studio
[05:35] <UndiFineD> it is one single meta package in synaptic
[05:36] <UndiFineD> selecting all needed dependencies
[05:38] <trhisdone> i havn't look throght the games downloads but im sure there are some educations games in there... thats probally good enough
[05:38] <trhisdone> er educational......sorry for the mayberry speak
[05:41] <trhisdone> brb
[07:46] <nlsthzn> hi all
[09:17] <benpowers23> how can i install a 32 bit .deb file on a 64 bit system?
[09:18] <benpowers23> i get the  "wrong architecture" error
[09:18] <bioterror> ofcourse you do
[09:19] <benpowers23> any way to make this work?
[09:23] <benpowers23> someone suggested downloading the tarball and compiling for my computer
[09:23] <bioterror> benpowers23, and what application you're trying to run?
[09:23] <benpowers23> ...
[09:24] <benpowers23> frostwire
[09:24] <bioterror> benpowers23, for torrent use?
[09:25] <benpowers23> no
[09:25] <benpowers23> i have been using the transmission for torrents
[09:26] <JoeMaverickSett> i think this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790 & this; http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-install-32bit-deb-applications.html are great guides.
[09:26] <bioterror> benpowers23, what's wrong with the gtk-gnutella?
[09:26] <bioterror> if you want to use that part of that program
[09:27] <benpowers23> is that a suitable replacement for limwire?
[09:27] <bioterror> usually I dont take part in a warez conversations, but I think you dont need to add 32bit libraries to your 64bit system
[09:29] <benpowers23> i am goin to try gtk-gnutella
[09:30] <benpowers23> thankyouall
[09:30] <bioterror> and if you end up compiling that software yourself
[09:31] <bioterror> remember to use checkinstall after make
[09:32] <benpowers23> i dont have the first clue how to compile software
[09:32] <bioterror> benpowers23, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnutella#Gnutella_features
[09:35] <benpowers23> bioterror, thank you as usual
[09:39] <benpowers23> bioterror, i downloaded and installed but when i open the app nothing happens
[09:40] <bioterror> oh
[09:40] <bioterror> really
[09:40] <bioterror> why you didnt sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[09:40] <benpowers23> as far as i know it installed correctly
[09:41] <benpowers23> i used software center
[09:41] <bioterror> okay
[09:41] <bioterror> open terminal and run that program from there
[09:41] <bioterror> you will get some answers, I think
[09:42] <benpowers23> sudo apt-get install gtk-gntuella
[09:42] <benpowers23> ?
[09:42] <bioterror> same as software center
[09:42] <bioterror> benpowers23, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[09:46] <benpowers23> apt-get -f install?
[09:46] <bioterror> Tue11:41 <+bioterror> open terminal and run that program from there
[09:47] <bioterror> you can check which binary file it is by saying dpkg -L gtk-gnutella, if I remember right
[09:49] <benpowers23>  GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
[09:51] <benpowers23> i used dpkg -L gtk gnutella   and i got this
[09:51] <benpowers23> http://paste.ubuntu.com/532888/
[09:52] <bioterror> /usr/bin/gtk-gnutella
[09:52] <bioterror> that's command yeah
[09:52] <bioterror> it's weird if it doesnt say anything else than GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
[09:53] <benpowers23> that was when i put gtk-gnutella in the cmd line
[09:53] <bioterror> yes
[09:54] <bioterror> and nothing else happened?
[09:54] <benpowers23> no
[09:54] <benpowers23> i send another past of it
[09:55] <bioterror> eeeeeverything would be nice
[09:56] <benpowers23> http://paste.ubuntu.com/532890/
[09:57] <bioterror> 10-11-16 03:47:35 (WARNING): can't read file "/home/ben/.gtk-gnutella/config_gnet": No such file or directory
[09:57] <bioterror> that's your problem
[09:57] <benpowers23> how do i correct?
[09:59] <bioterror> cd /home/ben/.gtk-gnutella/
[09:59] <bioterror> touch config_gnet
[10:00] <benpowers23> nothing happened
[10:00] <bioterror> really
[10:00] <bioterror> what does it say now when you run it from terminal
[10:01] <benpowers23> same thing
[10:01] <bioterror> what thing?
[10:01] <benpowers23> gtkspinbutton
[10:02] <bioterror> ...
[10:02] <bioterror> forget that button
[10:02] <bioterror> it does not matter
[10:02] <benpowers23> i mean that is what its saying
[10:02] <bioterror> Get:1 http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe gtk-gnutella i386 0.96.8-1 [15.8MB]
[10:02] <bioterror> Fetched 15.8MB in 1s (10.5MB/s)
[10:02] <bioterror> you made me to do this!
[10:02] <bioterror> ;D
[10:02] <bioterror> started
[10:02] <bioterror> i got window
[10:03] <benpowers23> i dont understand what you mean :S
[10:04] <benpowers23> if this helps i followed the directions on this website
[10:04] <bioterror> hmmm
[10:05] <benpowers23> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/switch-gnome-kde-45-ubuntu-1004/
[10:05] <benpowers23> to try kde
[10:05] <benpowers23> i still have not successfully uninstalled kde
[10:05] <benpowers23> i dont want it anymore
[10:05] <bioterror> sure, who wants
[10:05] <bioterror> sudo apt-get purge kde\*
[10:06] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:06] <benpowers23> do i need to cd?>
[10:06] <bioterror> no
[10:06]  * JoeMaverickSett thinks this might help? http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome :D
[10:07] <bioterror> JoeMaverickSett, removing kde\* is effective too ;)
[10:07] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: is it? never tried. :D
[10:07] <bioterror> try ;)
[10:07] <bioterror> it will gather a nice set of dependencies
[10:07]  * JoeMaverickSett == GNOME fan. doesn't touch KDE.
[10:07] <bioterror> yeah, KDE might look good, but
[10:08] <bioterror> well, I'm not married to a model :D
[10:08]  * JoeMaverickSett try KDE = 20mins kill KDE goes back to GNOME. :P
[10:08] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: lol ;D
[10:08] <bioterror> I rather take the brains than looks
[10:08] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: exactly. ;)
[10:08] <vu1kan> when i switch to a real console, the text is all blocky and unreadable...the same for plymouth and w/e the shutdown messages are delivered with...how would i fix this?
[10:09] <bioterror> vu1kan, changing the resolution of your console
[10:09] <bioterror> seems like it might be too low for your display
[10:09] <bioterror> or was it font, tell me joe
[10:09] <vu1kan> by modifying a config? or what?...or could you point me at a howto?
[10:10] <benpowers23> bioterror, http://paste.ubuntu.com/532899/
[10:10] <JoeMaverickSett> vu1kan: you might want to try this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258484
[10:11] <bioterror> benpowers23, seems like you should try that joe's url ;)
[10:11] <benpowers23> ok
[10:11] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: dependency hell! :P
[10:12] <bioterror> JoeMaverickSett, yeah, need to remove those three in a right order
[10:13] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: i've seen that kind before, what i did was kept changing GNOME-LXDE and uninstall KDE. :P
[10:13] <JoeMaverickSett> s/-/or
[10:13] <vu1kan> kewl beans, joe, this looks like it fits the bill...karma +1
[10:14]  * JoeMaverickSett karma becomes 100% :P
[10:14] <bioterror> JoeMaverickSett, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConsoleFramebuffer I was checking that, but it's really OUTDATED
[10:15] <benpowers23> http://paste.ubuntu.com/532901/
[10:15] <benpowers23> i used joes link, it didnt work
[10:16] <bioterror> benpowers23, how about sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[10:16] <bioterror> and try again removing
[10:16] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: i think that would do. :D
[10:16] <JoeMaverickSett> bioterror: i had the same problem.
[10:19] <bioterror> but benpowers23, remove that KDE first and let's continue with gtk-gnutella after that
[10:21] <benpowers23> ok
[10:21] <bioterror> but my 32bit binary worked fine
[10:21] <bioterror> I'm not at home, so I cant test with my 64bit system
[10:29] <slixz> sup
[10:29] <slixz> trying to install ubuntu netbook 1010 from 10.04 so cant use gui to get it. neone know a command i could use in term
[10:29] <slixz> no cd drive
[10:30] <bioterror> sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:31] <slixz> that does for netbook for sure
[10:31] <benpowers23> how do i select  <ok> on the configuration?
[10:31] <geirha> benpowers23: Hit tab until it's selected, then space or enter
[10:31] <benpowers23> it wont let me...
[10:32] <benpowers23> lol ty
[10:33] <geirha> Would be nice if debconf would use a GUI frontend when DISPLAY is set.
[10:36] <benpowers23> bioterror, i installed jre but it didnt fix the problem
[10:36] <benpowers23> http://paste.ubuntu.com/532911/
[10:37] <benpowers23> the remove kde cmd sisnt work
[10:37] <benpowers23> still*
[10:40] <benpowers23> bioterror, are you here with me?
[10:51] <Maddeth> heya a;;
[10:51] <Maddeth> all*
[11:01] <nev> could someone help me out following a how to..http://samiux.blogspot.com/2010/05/howto-realtek-8192su-usb-dongle.html
[11:04] <nev> got to the end of step 3, but now stuck
[11:34] <|GoLTaR|> hi, is there some one online? i need a little hel?
[11:34] <|GoLTaR|> help*
[11:39] <trhisdone> hello
[11:40] <benpowers23> when i install apps they are not showing up in the menus
[11:42] <|GoLTaR|> i have problem... i try to reboot my ubuntu... and when i do reboot it say.. The program 'reboot' can be found in the following packages:  * upstart * molly-guard Try: apt-get install <selected package> :( i try to upadte the ubutnu ... but its the same :( can somebody help me? :|
[11:46] <bioterror> benpowers23, now I am
[11:46] <bioterror> I had to move to another place
[11:46] <benpowers23> ok
[11:47] <bioterror> and I dropped my work laptop on a floor :(
[11:47] <benpowers23> ouch..
[11:47] <bioterror> man it was a beautiful fly from backbag on the floor :D
[11:47] <bioterror> what a shame, it was a power button corner :D
[11:47] <benpowers23> :s
[11:48] <benpowers23> if it make you feel better i dropped a 300 dollar camera in the ohio river yesterday
[11:48] <bioterror> haha, I hope it was a canon ;)
[11:49] <benpowers23> it was. my father is a photographer and he is a huge cannon fan
[11:50] <bioterror> that warms my nikonist heart ;)
[11:50] <benpowers23> he doesnt hate nikon just prefers cannon
[11:50] <benpowers23> his latest camera is a 7D
[11:51] <bioterror> that's nice, made some 5D MKII buyers angry ;D
[11:52] <benpowers23> so, just a thought.. i could reinstall ubuntu and solve all of my probs... right
[11:52] <bioterror> what problems?
[11:53] <benpowers23> i cant uninstall kde, i cant use gtk-untella and now i installed a game a min ago and it doesnt even show up in my menu
[11:54] <bioterror> really
[11:54] <bioterror> I've had that same menu problem at my parents-in-law
[11:54] <benpowers23> it all started when i decided to try kde
[11:55] <bioterror> :D
[11:55] <benpowers23> bad decision
[11:55] <bioterror> yeah
[11:55] <bioterror> not that I would like to bash KDE, but ;D
[11:55] <benpowers23> it was neat, but seemed pokey
[11:55] <bioterror> we had this conversation earlier!
[11:56] <benpowers23> yea but i was knee deep im terminal and was frustrated w/ myself
[11:56] <bioterror> D:
[11:57] <benpowers23> so would a clean install be my best bet?
[11:58] <bioterror> do you learn anything by doing so?
[11:58] <bioterror> I think not
[11:58] <bioterror> first you should clean your dependency problems
[11:58] <benpowers23> ok
[11:58] <bioterror> we could!
[11:59] <bioterror> apt-get --force-yes purge kde\*
[11:59] <bioterror> :D
[12:00] <bioterror> we can try to do that, if you're about to make a clean install :)
[12:00] <bioterror> "if I win or lose" ;D
[12:01] <benpowers23> didnt work
[12:01] <benpowers23> paste?
[12:01] <bioterror> remember sudo
[12:01] <benpowers23> i did
[12:01] <bioterror> does it complain again about dependencies?
[12:01] <benpowers23> yes
[12:01] <bioterror> which ones
[12:02] <benpowers23> kdebase-runtime : Depends: libkdnssd4 (>= 4:4.5) but it is not going to be installed
[12:02] <bioterror> sudo apt-get purge libkdnssd4
[12:02] <benpowers23> http://paste.ubuntu.com/532945/
[12:03] <bioterror> that's what you get when you tried to purge that libkndssd4?
[12:03] <benpowers23> its removing kde :D
[12:04] <bioterror> it's now working?
[12:04] <benpowers23> yup
[12:04] <bioterror> nice
[12:04] <benpowers23> as we speek\
[12:05] <benpowers23> btw im doing all of this teathered to a htc dinc
[12:06] <benpowers23> im literally as we speak going south in the ohio river
[12:07] <benpowers23> had a prob at the end
[12:07] <bioterror> I would like to have a Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro ;)
[12:07] <bioterror> as I hate my Nokia N97 mini ;)
[12:07] <bioterror> but I've heard that things dosnt get better by changing
[12:08] <benpowers23> http://paste.ubuntu.com/532948/
[12:09] <bioterror> oh
[12:09] <bioterror> seems like you're using kdm when you log in?
[12:09] <benpowers23> i am very pro android
[12:09] <bioterror> is that true?
[12:10] <benpowers23> it is on user control
[12:10] <benpowers23> and i use ubuntu
[12:10] <bioterror> sudo service kdm stop
[12:10] <bioterror> sudo apt-get purge kdm
[12:11] <bioterror> ;D
[12:11] <benpowers23> kdm: unrecognized service
[12:11] <bioterror> okay, what does that purge kdm say?
[12:11] <bioterror> new dependency problem?
[12:13] <benpowers23> no i dont think so
[12:13] <bioterror> what does it say?
[12:13] <benpowers23> but didnt work none the less
[12:14] <benpowers23> http://paste.ubuntu.com/532959/
[12:15] <bioterror> hahaha
[12:15] <bioterror> sudo touch /etc/init/kdm.conf
[12:16] <bioterror> and same command again ;D
[12:16] <benpowers23> i just did sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:16] <bioterror> nice
[12:16] <bioterror> hope it removes lots of stuff
[12:16] <benpowers23> it is
[12:17] <bioterror> but you really should purge
[12:17] <bioterror> becouse you want those configs also removed, those are not needed since they are for kde
[12:17] <benpowers23> ok so next step then ?
[12:17] <bioterror> well
[12:18] <bioterror> let it remove
[12:18] <benpowers23> its done
[12:18] <bioterror> try sudo apt-get purge kde\*
[12:18] <bioterror> if it finds anything
[12:19] <benpowers23> seems to be working
[12:19] <bioterror> is there still something to be removed?
[12:19] <benpowers23> ALOT
[12:19] <benpowers23> lol
[12:19] <bioterror> :D
[12:20] <benpowers23> so what is purge?
[12:20] <benpowers23> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:20] <bioterror> it's remove --purge
[12:20] <benpowers23>  kdm
[12:20] <bioterror> removes configs
[12:20] <benpowers23> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:20] <bioterror> what's that error
[12:21] <benpowers23> it was at the end
[12:21] <bioterror> there must be something
[12:22] <benpowers23> paste?
[12:22] <bioterror> yeah, I would like to see what that dpkg pukes
[12:24] <benpowers23> http://paste.ubuntu.com/532963/
[12:24] <bioterror> niice
[12:24] <bioterror> sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm
[12:25] <benpowers23> dum dum dummmmm   (fail)
[12:26] <benpowers23> http://paste.ubuntu.com/532965/
[12:31] <benpowers23> bioterror, you there?
[12:34] <benpowers23> bioterror, i have to go to bed i have to work in a couple hours ill catch you again
[12:34] <benpowers23> later\
[14:34] <mutsa> hi! i notice that my Network Manager icon disappears. It starts with the OS but somtimes, after a while, it disappears. Even if i'm connected or not, to some wireless our wire network. I'm using 10.04. thanks
[14:42] <jahbulon> hellow guyz
[14:43] <jahbulon> I need some advices to install a sound card
[14:43] <jahbulon> xonar d2 using alsa 1.0.16
[16:41] <Mohan_chml> hey Maddeth. where is _Work? :D
[16:42] <Mohan_chml> Evening hobgoblin and all =]
[16:46] <malev> hi there! how can I search for a file from the command line?
[16:47] <malev> I'm trying to use find, but with no luck
[16:50] <Maddeth> Mohan_chml, not art work :P
[16:50] <Maddeth> at*
[16:51] <Maddeth> find / -name filename
[16:51] <Maddeth> malev, ^
[16:51] <Mohan_chml> sup Maddeth ?
[16:51] <Maddeth> Mohan_chml, nm nm
[16:51] <Maddeth> trying e17
[16:52] <Mohan_chml> Wow thats nice
[16:52] <malev> Maddeth: thanks!!! I'll try it
[16:52] <Maddeth> yw malev
[16:55] <Maddeth> Mohan_chml, its nice look ing minimal, cant get used to no right click
[16:55] <Maddeth> and main menu on left
[16:56] <Mohan_chml> ah
[16:56] <jmgalloway> anyone in here good with ssh?
[16:56] <Mohan_chml> jmgalloway, just ask and the someone will answer you
[16:56] <aveilleux> jmgalloway: What about it?
[16:57] <jmgalloway> im am getting this error:  Received disconnect from 192.168.1.100: 2: Too many authentication failures for clcuser
[16:58] <aveilleux> jmgalloway: That means the password is incorrect, and whatever client you're using is trying to enter the incorrect password too many times.
[16:58] <jmgalloway> right
[16:58] <jmgalloway> how do I reset it?
[16:58] <aveilleux> jmgalloway: What client are you using?
[16:58] <jmgalloway> I have access to the remote machine
[16:58] <jmgalloway> client?  openssh
[16:58] <jmgalloway> terminal
[16:59] <aveilleux> jmgalloway: So just ssh.
[16:59] <jmgalloway> yep
[16:59] <aveilleux> jmgalloway: Are you making sure the syntax is correct? ssh user@ip.add.ress ?
[16:59] <jmgalloway> yes
[17:00] <jmgalloway> I have setup a passwordless ssh using rsa key exchanges
[17:00] <jmgalloway> the problem is...I cant ssh from a specific machine.  the remote computer can be ssh'd into from other machines.
[17:00] <aveilleux> jmgalloway: That would do it. The RSA public and private keys don't match,
[17:01] <jmgalloway> so I have to regenerate a new rsa key?
[17:02] <aveilleux> jmgalloway: I guess. I'm not very well-versed in RSA key authentication, password authentication has never failed me
[17:03] <jmgalloway> that also doesnt work.  usually I would just ssh into the machine and give the pw each time...but that became a hassle so I setup a passwordless ssh using rsa and it worked for a while...now I cant ssh at all
[17:04] <jmgalloway> well I cant ssh from this machine...I have a backup machine on the same subnet, and I can ssh from that machine no problem.
[17:11] <hobgoblin> hi Mohan_chml
[17:29] <karthick87> hiyas cprofitt :)
[17:29] <karthick87> hi hobgoblin :)
[17:29] <hobgoblin> o/
[17:30] <karthick87> \o/
[17:53] <Maddeth> hobgoblin o/
[17:53] <Maddeth> was eating
[17:53] <Maddeth> st33med, o/
[17:53] <st33med> Holy crap! Maddeth!
[17:53] <st33med> How are you!
[17:53] <Maddeth> all good thnks :)
[17:53] <Maddeth> and you?
[17:53] <st33med> In college :)
[17:53] <Maddeth> wesome
[17:54] <st33med> Nearing the end of my semester
[17:54] <Maddeth> awesome*
[17:54] <Maddeth> Ah yes
[17:54] <Maddeth> exms in Jan?
[17:54] <Maddeth> exams*
[17:54] <hobgoblin> hi Maddeth :)
[17:54] <st33med> Nope, December
[17:54] <Maddeth> nice
[17:54] <Maddeth> always had them after christmas with a stupid assignment
[17:55] <Maddeth> how do hobgoblin
[17:55]  * hobgoblin does well - how do Maddeth do 
[17:55]  * Maddeth also does well
[17:56] <Maddeth> doing 2 jobs so buring the candle at both ends till February
[17:56] <Maddeth> burning
[17:56] <Maddeth> damn laptop kb
[17:56] <hobgoblin> Maddeth:  you know what they say about burning the candle at both ends :(
[18:05] <Maddeth> it gets hot?
[18:06] <hobgoblin> for a short while - then goes pffffft and the flame goes out - pop
[18:06] <hobgoblin> all is darkness
[18:07] <Maddeth> only till feb
[18:07] <hobgoblin> ha ha ha ha
[19:05] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[19:52] <madeisha> hello
[19:52] <madeisha> can someone help me a second?
[19:53] <Silver_Fox_> Hello. Please state your query madeisha .
[19:53] <madeisha> how can I see the info of the firewire installed in my computer?
[19:53] <bioterror> lspci
[19:53] <madeisha> what do I have to type in terminal to see its hardware info?
[19:54] <madeisha> but I don't see much details...
[19:54] <bioterror> what you want to see+
[19:54] <madeisha> i see only... 15.00.1 firewire... iee 1394
[19:54] <madeisha> i want to see its id
[19:54] <madeisha> device number..etc...
[19:54] <madeisha> is it possible?
[19:55] <madeisha> its address value
[19:57] <bioterror> not really getting what you're after
[19:57] <madeisha> I need its hardware address, because I have to pass it to another user
[19:57] <madeisha> who has to modify my dsdt
[19:58] <bioterror> cat /proc/devices |more
[19:58] <bioterror> could it be that?
[19:58] <madeisha> i try...
[19:58] <madeisha> hold on
[19:58] <madeisha> hmmm i see a list...
[19:59] <madeisha> and 251 firewire.
[19:59] <madeisha> how can I enter there?
[19:59] <bioterror> mine 171 ieee1394
[19:59] <bioterror> so could it be that? ;)
[20:00] <madeisha> no.
[20:00] <madeisha> i need values like...
[20:00] <madeisha> vendor.. id...
[20:00] <madeisha> etc..
[20:00] <madeisha> such stuff!
[20:00] <madeisha> :(
[20:01] <bioterror> you've got that firewire device attached?
[20:03] <madeisha> i have found the solution!
[20:03] <madeisha> dmesg | grep firewire
[20:03] <madeisha> try it as well!
[20:04] <bioterror> it prompts same stuff as lspci
[20:04] <bioterror> or it should
[20:04] <madeisha> no.. there are more things...
[20:04] <madeisha> in lscpi there's just the brand...
[20:04] <madeisha> here now i can see fw0, guid number... etc...
[20:05] <bioterror> $ dmesg |grep fw
[20:05] <bioterror> [    1.712073] ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[18]  MMIO=[febff800-febfffff]  Max Packet=[2048]  IR/IT contexts=[4/8]
[20:05] <bioterror> something like that?
[20:05] <realeyes> is there any reason that git wouldn't work on 10.10?
[20:06] <bioterror> I've downloaded stuff from git
[20:06] <realeyes> repo sync isn't working for me, for some reason.
[20:15] <karthick87> hobgoblin: hi  can you help me  in registering ssh keys
[20:15] <karthick87> phillw: there?
[20:16] <aveilleux> !ask | karthick87
[20:16] <ubot2> karthick87: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[20:16] <karthick87> Can someone help me in registering ssh keys??
[20:18] <aveilleux> karthick87: Register what SSH key where>
[20:18] <karthick87> launchpad
[20:20] <madeisha> oh my god bioterror! I have found a command to get a bunch of hw infos! :)
[20:20] <bioterror> enlight me ;)
[20:20] <madeisha> yes yes!
[20:20] <madeisha> in console you type
[20:20] <madeisha> sudo lshw -html > hw.html
[20:20] <madeisha> and you get the whole hardware in html!!
[20:20] <bioterror> ahhh
[20:21] <madeisha> thats what i wanted
[20:21] <bioterror> could not remember that ;)
[20:21] <madeisha> you remember only the simple ones :((
[20:21] <bioterror> played with that few days ago :D
[20:22] <madeisha> i miss my windows! but ubuntu is not that bad as well....
[20:23] <bioterror> well
[20:23] <bioterror> I have windows in my worklaptop and when I boot into it, I dont miss it at all
[20:23] <bioterror> I remember why I mostly use Linux and Shitrix
[20:24] <madeisha> Shitrix?
[20:24] <madeisha> what is it?
[20:25] <bioterror> citrix
[20:25] <madeisha> oh
[20:25] <aveilleux> karthick87: Do you have any ssh keys to register?
[20:25] <bioterror> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrix_XenApp
[20:25] <karthick87> aveilleux: yes i have
[20:26] <aveilleux> karthick87: Then on lp there should be a place to do it in your user preferences
[20:29] <aveilleux> karthick87: https://edge.launchpad.net/~<USERNAME>/+editpgpkeys
[20:32] <karthick87> aveilleux: already i have pgpkeys there.Now i am talking about ssh
[20:33] <aveilleux> What does lp use SSH keys for?
[20:34] <aveilleux> oh, right
[20:35] <aveilleux> karthick87: https://edge.launchpad.net/~<USERNAME>/+editsshkeys
[21:37] <kosaidpo> guys any idea im lookin for a php debuger
[21:41] <pedro3005> kosaidpo, I think php already prints out error messages that you can use
[21:41] <kosaidpo> yeha but now it doesnt for this case pedro3005 :P
[21:42] <vu1kan> when i pass <users>, it returns my username twice-is this normal?
[21:42] <aveilleux> name and group
[21:42] <vu1kan> kthax
[21:42] <pedro3005> kosaidpo, real men don't need debuggers anyhow
[21:42] <pedro3005> :P
[21:43] <kosaidpo> pedro3005: im a nooooooooobie
[21:43] <kosaidpo> pedro3005: smart people make it easy for me so why not take advantage of it
[21:44] <kosaidpo> pedro3005: if we apply the same principe in using phone LOOL real men doesnnt call they go by foot to the guy or place ROFL
[21:44] <pedro3005> kosaidpo, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=php+debugger
[21:44] <pedro3005> :p
[21:46] <kosaidpo> pedro3005: thanks i dont kno why i was adding ubuntu to that criteria you typed
[21:46] <vu1kan> is there some way to apply changes passed to vesafb (via menu.lst) without a full reboot?
[21:47] <vu1kan> i wanna up the resolution, but don't wanna spend all afternoon rebooting to find a mode that works
[21:48] <pedro3005> vu1kan, restart X maybe
[21:48] <vu1kan> vesafb loads before x, i thought
[21:48] <pedro3005> hm
[21:49] <vu1kan> more specifically, i wanna up the resolution during boot/plymouth and in the real console
[22:02] <nlsthzn> hi all
[22:23] <robs2> Hello everyone
[22:23] <robs2> I have a question I'm hoping someone might be willint to comment on
 Recently, I converted,  or attempted to conver an rpm package to debian by using alien.  However,  the resulting debian files did not contain a  .deb  extension.  And I cannot get the newly converted package to install.  Any ideas from anyone would be helpful.  thanks
[22:25] <nlsthzn> ... have you tried just giving it a .deb extension yourself?
[22:25] <robs2> Yes.  That did not work.  Thanks for suggesting it, though  :)
[22:29] <nlsthzn> robs2: Was worth a shot... I know nothing of alien so I will get back to lurking...
[22:30] <yofel> robs1: can you tell us how to get the rpm in question? it would help if we could see what goes wrong ourselves
[22:49] <robs1> yoefe1...I could ftp the file to you;  it is actually a tar file
[22:51] <yofel> robs1: afaik alien can't do anything with tar files, it needs to be an .rpm
[22:52] <robs1> yes I understand that.  But the tar file contains the rpm files that I am trying to convert to .debian using the alien command.
[22:52] <robs1> I believe you asked me earlier if there was a way that I could get it to you or something like that
[22:52] <yofel> hm, maybe later, I really need to go to bed now, sry
[22:53] <robs1> np
[22:56] <jahbulon> hy people
[22:57] <jahbulon> need some advices
[22:57] <jahbulon> some1 wanna help meout
[22:57] <nlsthzn> jahbulon: can't help if you don't ask ;)
[22:57] <jahbulon> :)
[22:58] <jahbulon> ok .. so ... i have a sound card .. assus xonar d2 .. and i can't use digital output
[22:58] <jahbulon> xonar d2
[22:59] <jahbulon> and i don't know how to install alsa 1.0.16
[22:59] <jahbulon> i heard that it could solve the problemes
[23:02] <nlsthzn> what have you tried?
[23:03] <jahbulon>        cd /usr/src
[23:04] <jahbulon> mkdir alsa
[23:04] <jahbulon> can't create
[23:04] <jahbulon> file
[23:05] <jahbulon> thisisthe end
[23:05] <jahbulon> :(
[23:05] <aveilleux> jahbulon: Of course you can't create a file in /usr/src. You don't have write permissions to that directory.
[23:05] <nlsthzn> jahbulon:  http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776279 have a look and also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726438
[23:05] <aveilleux> jahbulon: Are you trying to build the driver from source?
[23:07] <jahbulon> i will check it ...
[23:07] <nlsthzn> well... with sudo you could write to /usr/src... however, I would suggest putting your source fieles someplace in ~
[23:08] <bioterror> if you need those sources only for a while, /tmp is a good place
[23:09] <bioterror> other wise /usr/local/src is a correct place to store them
[23:09] <bioterror>  /usr/local/ is for your stuff
[23:10] <jahbulon> witch is better
[23:10] <jahbulon> ?
[23:11] <nlsthzn> jahbulon: IMO it doesn't matter... once compiled and installed the source isn't required (stricty speaking, but I did read one place you need it to remove the installation later... but stand corrected)
[23:12] <jahbulon> now it is installing
[23:14] <jahbulon> i have also an on board sound card how can i disable it ?
[23:16] <nlsthzn> jahbulon: BIOS?
[23:16] <jahbulon> ok thanks
[23:17] <jahbulon> i must reboot for changes to apply ?
[23:18] <aveilleux> jahbulon: In BIOS? Usually, yeah
[23:19] <jahbulon>  thanks for the support
[23:40] <stlsaint> hey did i show up as cloaked when i joined?
[23:41] <pedro3005> * stlsaint (~stlsaint@ubuntu/member/stlsaint) has joined #ubuntu-beginners
[23:41] <pleia2> stlsaint: no, you should use a server password when connecting to freenode
[23:41] <pleia2> rather than identifying with nickserv after connecting
[23:41] <stlsaint> pleia2: when did this change come about?
[23:42] <pleia2> nhandler can say for sure, but I've used a server password for years
[23:43] <pleia2> it got a bit more obnoxious with the ircd replacement earlier this year (join/quit/join)