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delimiterHi, can someone explain the benefit of running the kernel 'linux-virtual' inside a kvm guest, if any?00:28
kialldelimiter, I dont have any specifics - but I would imagine that the -virt kernel is lighter in that it doesnt contain hardware drivers for every piece of kit ubuntu supports, only those typically used in kvm/xen/esx etc00:30
cvanceI have an ubuntu server setup and I installed drupal via apt-get. It installed fine, but to www.domain.com/drupal6. I would like it installed to the root of www.domain.com, how can I change the configuration?00:32
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SpamapScvance: you will need to modify the apache configs to do that.00:44
SpamapScvance: if you don't want to run anything else on your site, the simplest way is to change DocumentRoot to the location where drupal is installed.00:45
smoserSpamapS, if you're bored (or if anyone is), you could review https://code.launchpad.net/~awstools-dev/+junk/iamcli . i'm wanting to get that into archive (bug 675686)00:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 675686 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] package amazon iamcli" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67568600:48
cvanceSpamapS that sounds like a good idea. Could I symlink the /var/www directory to point to the /usr/share/drupal6 directory?00:53
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zulhallyn: now i am00:57
hallynzul: sorry - nm, i was going to ask a q about sru's01:03
hallynzul: oh, well, i still have a q about sru's:01:04
zulhallyn: sure01:04
hallynhow come we stopped doing sru nominations at server mtgs?01:04
hallynwere we only doing those during lucid+1 cycle bc there were so many (lucid being fresh)?01:04
zulbecause no one was bringing anything up01:04
zuland we have such a huge freaking backlog01:05
hallynyeah01:05
hallynthat's how i feel about qemu :)01:05
zulheh..01:06
SpamapSsmoser: looking now01:29
hallynjdstrand: i built the natty kvm for maverick and installed it here, and got the same result.  interesting.  lemme try the daily build01:31
SpamapSsmoser: not really sure how that rules file works with no .install or anything else files. ???01:37
SpamapShrm.. anybody else using squid-deb-proxy on maverick? In addition to bug 666014 it just doesn't even seem to be starting the main squid-deb-proxy service01:54
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 666014 in squid-deb-proxy "Avahi service for squid-deb-proxy does not start" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66601401:54
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twbI use debmirror01:58
twbEw, a native package01:59
twbWhere's the to_ubuntu_mirrors  ACL defined?  I can't see it in the source package.02:01
SpamapSacl to_ubuntu_mirrors dstdomain "/etc/squid-deb-proxy/mirror-dstdomain.acl"02:02
SpamapShttp_access deny !to_ubuntu_mirrors02:02
twbOh, sorry, I can't read02:02
SpamapS;)02:02
SpamapSI'm just trying to figure out why it didn't get started on boot02:02
SpamapSupstart.. please tell me what you're doing.. thanks... mmmmkay02:03
twbGood luck debugging upstart02:03
SpamapSits my new crusade02:04
twbAFAICT it doesn't actually provide any useful debugging techniques02:04
SpamapSIt does, they're just not well documented.02:04
twbThe best they can tell you is to put "set -x" in the script begin, and the boot with --debug02:04
SpamapSor rather, not well publicized. :)02:04
twbAnd "console owner", of course.02:04
SpamapSno, thats nasty02:04
SpamapScjwatson is working on having plymouth spit out upstart's dbus messages to make it easier to find these things though. :)02:05
twbAdmittedly, most of the problems I had last time were with mountall (which is kinda-but-not upstart) and plymouth hijacking the vga console even when booting without "splash"02:05
* SpamapS reboots and curses himself for not having a maverick VM ready.02:05
SpamapSwhoa. .I'd reboot but I don't have a power button on my panel02:06
twbDoes grep http_port /etc/squid-deb-proxy/squid-deb-proxy.conf|cut -d' ' -f2 succeed?02:06
SpamapStwb: yes, 800002:07
twbAnd the start condition (started squid-deb-proxy and started avahi-daemon) is definitely met?02:07
SpamapSno, squid-deb-proxy isn't starting02:11
SpamapSrunlevel [2345] should totally be met02:11
twbOh, sorry, I misread your original post02:12
SpamapSNov 15 18:10:29 clint-MacBookPro init: squid-deb-proxy main process (1205) terminated with status 102:12
SpamapSahh02:12
SpamapSwell wife and baby are home so... bbl02:12
twbPoor sod.02:13
twbIn d-i partman, how do I install to a RAID1 of *one* node?02:21
twbAh, looks like I tell the GUI "-n 2 /dev/sda", which is extremely counter-intuitive.02:21
twb(Trying to tell it -n 1 just causes it to return to the same prompt without any error or hint as to what is wrong.)02:22
SpamapSFATAL: ipcache_init: DNS name lookup tests failed.02:24
SpamapShrm02:24
SpamapSok.. so this is another bug02:27
SpamapSsquid needs the network up02:27
SpamapSor more accurately, squid-deb-proxy needs it up02:27
SpamapSsince I think the main squid starts with -D02:27
SpamapSnope.. squid.conf does (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE=!lo)02:30
SpamapSwhich, I think we should have an event triggered at that point called "(ready-to-serve)"02:30
SpamapSstart on ready-to-serve reads so nicely02:30
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twbOK, so get this03:03
twbIf you do a tasks=standard install and configure raid, it causes postfix to be installed03:03
twbI think it is taking recommends a bit far for an MTA to be pulled in by configuring software RAID.03:03
ScottKThis has been discussed pretty far before.03:07
ScottKThe rough consensus was that on servers people want to be notified about RAID failures more often than they don't.03:08
twbI agree that there isn't an obviously superior decision to make03:09
twbI'm just a bit grumpy03:10
ScottKIn any case, right or wrong, it's not by accident.03:10
twbMainly because I'm doing two installs in parallel for an RAIDed AoE, and only the "master" host knows about the RAID at install time, so only it got postfix.03:10
ScottKIt's a little stranger in the desktop RAID case.03:10
ScottKWill the other one know to complain if it dies later?03:11
arrrghhhcron seems to need postfix as well.  awesome.03:11
twbScottK: the other one is just exporting a disk over AoE, which the master host happens to use as a RAID node03:11
ScottKarrrghhh: cron suggests an MTA.  That won't pull it in automatically.03:12
ScottKI see.03:12
twbThis is an... unconventional setup :P03:12
arrrghhhi seem to be having issues with it.. i don't have postfix installed, and i get errors in my syslog that cron can't send mail.  i should probably fix it.03:12
ScottKarrrghhh: cron does like to send mail, so you probably should.  trivial enough to do.03:13
arrrghhhi don't need it to send mail outside03:13
ScottKEither you can then teach cron to be less verbose or learn something you ought to know about the system.03:13
twbI *do* like that d-i is smart enough to install sshd if I use the network-console udeb, and smart enough to use serial if I do the install over serial.03:13
arrrghhhhow would i do that anyway?  point it to a pop3 smtp provider?03:13
arrrghhhi ought to know about postfix...?03:14
ScottKI mostly run mail servers, so it's not a problem.03:14
arrrghhhi have no need for a mail server.03:14
ScottKYou can configure it for local delivery.03:14
twbarrrghhh: if you're a sysadmin, you SHOULD learn at least one MTA.03:14
arrrghhheveryone has different needs.03:14
arrrghhhhrm.03:14
arrrghhhpretty sure my provider wouldn't appreciate that traffic anyways...03:14
twbIn the same way that any unix sysadmin should know how to use vi, even if they normally use vim or emacs.03:14
* arrrghhh sucks and uses nano.03:15
twbScottK: OK, I tell a lie.  It seems that the non-RAID host is configuring postfix, just later in the d-i process.  Dunno what pulled it in.03:15
arrrghhhguess i'm not a unix sysadmin, but that's why i use ubuntu i guess...03:15
twbarrrghhh: sooner or later you'll run into a system that only has vi -- maybe it'll be a busybox rescue shell on ubuntu, even.03:16
twbarrrghhh: at that point, it's better if you already know how to use vi :-)03:16
arrrghhhi've tried.  many times.  just can't get the hang of it.03:17
arrrghhhi'm sure it'd be one of those things if i do learn it, i'll get fast with it... but i just can't force myself to use it when nano is so simple lol03:18
twbFor me, nano is an automatic fail because it defaults to auto-wrapping03:30
arrrghhherm i didn't think it did on any of my ubuntu installs...03:31
arrrghhhdoesn't wrap lines for me.03:34
arrrghhhputs a little $ at the end of the line if it goes off the window03:34
arrrghhhmaybe that's just how ubuntu is configured?  i've never changed any settings with nano.03:35
mattcenHi all. Is there any distinct location that says which packages are supported for the 5 years Server LTS?03:37
arrrghhhwell i would assume anything in the repo's mattcen...03:45
arrrghhhanything that you install 3rd party... who knows.03:45
twbGood GRIEF.  grub-extras allows you to insmod lua support IN YOUR BOOTLOADER.03:46
mattcenarrrghhh: I don't believe that's correct. I believe you can't assume that 5 year support for everything in the 'main' repo for example; otherwise, every package would have 5 year server support, and nothing would have 3 year desktop support.03:47
arrrghhhmattcen, well the base server install will be supported at the very least :P03:48
arrrghhhi think they mean security updates03:48
arrrghhhpatches, etc.03:48
arrrghhhdoesn't apply to packages now that i think about it.03:48
twb!ubuntu-maintenance-check03:49
twbparent_location = http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Enijaba/ubuntu-maintenance-check/trunk/03:49
twbThat's the only way I *know* of, but I thought I once saw the support EOL for individual packages listed in an aptitude GUI03:49
mattcenThere's some hand-wavy info at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Server/TechSpecs/1004LTS, but that's not particularly comprehensice03:51
mattcens/comprehensice/comprehensive/03:51
arrrghhhlol looks empty03:52
arrrghhhoh03:52
arrrghhhlinked the comma in d'oh03:52
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twister004hi guys.. I have smokeping running on my ubuntuserver... the web server is apache... about 2 days back, the web gui for smokeping stopped working... the process is still running, but I'm not able to access the gui for smokeping...04:20
twister004please advise what could be the possible cause04:21
twister004thanks in advance04:21
arrrghhhdidja try restarting the service?04:21
twister004arrrghhh... yes I did04:22
twister004it didn't work04:22
arrrghhhdo other pages load on the apache server...?04:22
twister004it has something to do with the web service.. I also have nagios.. and it isn't workin either04:22
arrrghhhrestart apache?04:23
twister004arrrghhh...some pages load.. I have a mediawiki.. that's working..04:23
twister004gulp... production env04:23
arrrghhhlol04:23
arrrghhhmaintenance hours?04:23
twister004nop04:23
arrrghhhhrm04:23
arrrghhhi use smokeping with zenoss04:23
arrrghhhnever used it by itself...04:23
arrrghhhand we use nagios, but i don't manage that box at work :P04:24
arrrghhhhrm but the wiki is working04:24
arrrghhhso it is unlikely that apache is the problem... but odd that both nagios and smokeping aren't working.04:24
twister004i dont understand what went wrong in apache... the logs show the following warning: [error] an unknown filter was not added: PHP04:24
twister004arrrghhh.. you think this could be the cause?04:25
arrrghhhperhaps, but i have no clue what it means unfortunately...04:26
arrrghhhdoes anything php work?04:26
arrrghhhmaybe that's the problem.04:26
arrrghhhany updates recently?04:26
twister004arrrghhh.. no updates were installed recently... how can i check if php is misbehaving?04:27
arrrghhhwell there's the php test page04:27
arrrghhhwhen you first install it...04:28
twister004arrrghhh.. where's the test page?.. how can I load it?04:28
twister004it was installed many years back04:28
arrrghhhi'd have to google it tbh04:29
twister004arrrghhh.. could you direct me on some php stuff?.. Im new to this04:32
blackshirthello04:42
homecableany one have problems booting a grsec kernel on 10.10 ?04:51
blackshirthomecable: i don't have experience with grsec kernel04:51
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Error404NotFoundanyone awake here?06:00
ChmEarlon lucid I have a custom kernel and uname -m returns x86_64. It needs to say amd64. Can I config a fix for that?06:24
joschiChmEarl: x86_64 and amd64 are equivalent. you kernel is fine06:29
ChmEarljoschi, the virtualusr script dies if arch returns x86_64 instead of amd6406:30
ChmEarljoschi, might have a workaround cooked up06:30
twbuname -m returns "x86_64" on ALL debian/ubuntu kernels06:46
twbThat is not a bug.06:46
twbObviously your script is broken06:47
qman__mine returns i68607:23
qman__but I am running karmic07:23
qman__oh, nevermind, I thought it was an actual arch problem07:24
twbqman__: obviously that's because you're not on an x86_64 cpu (or are running in x86-emulation mode)07:26
qman__yeah, I just misunderstood the "problem", been awake too long ;)07:29
Zeu5hi there , i am using LAMP inside ubuntu server. i am not sure but i can run this http://thecopyninja.com/info.php but i cannot run this http://www.thecopyninja.com/php/P06upcomingentrepreneur/index.php please advise?09:30
joschiZeu5: ask the developers of the php script in question. and well, obviously the file can't be found09:33
Zeu5joschi: i wrote teh script myself. i placed it in the subfolders php > P06UpcomingEntrepreneur.09:34
joschiZeu5: you're already getting help in #httpd09:34
Zeu5joschi: yup. thanks :)09:34
Zeu5was concerned at first that its due to the way i configured my server. thank you09:35
ikonia             lp;09:38
ikoniaoops09:38
ikoniacat on laptop, sorry09:38
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lieuwethe sensors command gives all kind of weird min/max values, anyone here any idea what could be the cause? since min +0.08v and max +0.06v seems unlikely09:58
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twbIn mdadm, how do you add a "best effort" mirror to an existing RAID1 array?11:09
twbThat is, I want to tell it that /dev/sdz should be kept in sync with md0 (/dev/sd[ab]), but if it can't keep up, not to slow down /dev/sd[ab] on its account11:10
twbAh, --write-behind11:10
uvirtbotNew bug: #675965 in apache2 (main) "Apache crashes with glibc detected and stack trace" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67596511:56
BuenGeniohello12:28
BuenGeniohow come there are more SpamAssassin rules in Mandriva that Ubuntu? :-P12:28
twbBecause somebody changed something?12:40
eriksson25Hi, Anyone know the comand for setting a users home folder. I have created a user test. And he shuld have home folder /hdd/users/test but when I log in with ssh with test it cant find the home folder and points to root13:28
alvineriksson25: usermod -d <username> Better read the manual of usermod first13:31
eriksson25thx13:36
zulDaviey: did you have a look at the bzr branch?13:38
kirklandhallyn: hey13:52
kirklandhallyn: you should use your ubuntu.com email address in changelogs13:52
kirklandhallyn: I export DEBEMAIL="kirkland@ubuntu.com" in my .bashrc13:52
consumerismhow do i set a permanent hostname on ubuntu? i did hostname myhost and changed /etc/hosts, but the hostname is reset on reboot.13:55
patdk-wkyou never edited /etc/hostname?13:55
consumerismpatdk-wk: that file doesn't exist on my system13:56
consumerismshould it contain just the hostname i want? any special format?13:57
kirklandhallyn: wow, first time i've noticed13:57
kirklandhallyn: you always sign your changes with @canonical.com13:57
kirklandhallyn: anyway, we're supposed to use @ubuntu.com for signing changelogs13:57
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hallynkirkland: funny, there was something on the wiki about using canonical.com to give canonical credit for it beign done on its dime14:04
hallynkirkland: i'm fine either way.14:05
kirklandhallyn: really ...14:05
hallynyeah, when i first joined up14:05
kirklandhallyn: okay, well, i don't care14:05
hallynkirkland: well, if i'm doing it wrong, then i do :)14:05
kirklandhallyn: any chance you can find that wiki page again?14:06
hallynwill try14:06
sorenhallyn: Unless it changed, you're supposed to use @ubuntu.com in debian/changelog and @canonical.com virtually everywhere else.14:11
sorenhallyn: AFAIR, at least.. debian/changelog certainly were an exception to the general rule. I'm not 100% sure it was the only exception.14:11
sorens/were/was/ grammar fail.14:11
sorenWeird.14:12
BuenGenioanyone know where are update sources stored for SpamAssassin ?14:13
jdstrandhallyn: thanks for the qemu-kvm fix :)14:34
jdstrandfwiw, I still use @ubuntu.com for platform work...14:34
jdstrandbut I hardly keep up with the changing new hire wiki stuff14:35
hallynjdstrand: thanks, i'm switching14:43
hallynkirkland: we should talk sometime about how to offer the 0.13.0 to debian.  (not now, we have a few bugs to shake out :)15:17
kirklandhallyn: ack15:18
uvirtbotNew bug: #676094 in tomcat6 (main) "Missing pid file check in tomcat6 init script causes failed startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67609415:26
smoserSpamapS, regarding the simple rules file. dh makes magic happen if you have a very simple package with a 'make install'15:37
jdstrandhallyn: qemu-kvm ftbfs on i386 and armel, which makes qemu-kvm on amd64 uninstallable because qemu-common isn't built :(15:39
smoserzul, could i get you to review and possibly sponsor at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/67568615:40
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 675686 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] package amazon iamcli" [Wishlist,New]15:40
zulsmoser: muhahha....muhahaha...sure :)15:40
zulsmoser: can i park it until this afternoon?15:41
smoserabsolutely not. i need it NOW!15:41
smoseror, wait, thats right, i'm asking you a favor15:41
smosersure15:41
zulsmoser: :P15:44
AndyGraybealwhen sharing usb device inside KVM, does this work?  I'm wondering because I think it isn't working for me.  Do i need to disable accessing the device from linux?  so the device can be access only by the virtual machine?15:52
zulhggdh: where is the latet uec preseed stuff?15:56
hggdhzul: let me get the link15:59
hggdhzul: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~uec-testing-scripts-dev/uec-testing-scripts/preseeds/changes15:59
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SpamapSsmoser: I guess I didn't see the Makefile in there doh16:00
zulhggdh: thanks..mind if i start on a natty one16:00
smoserSpamapS, its patched in16:00
hggdhzul: not at all...16:00
smoserquilt 3.0 format extracts and applies patches16:01
smoseralthough i might have that wrong... ie, i think the commited code should have that, shouldn't it.16:01
zulhggdh: cool thanks16:01
smoseri'm kind of fuzzy on that.16:01
SpamapSsmoser: right, I didn't read the patches. Makes sense.16:02
smoserso do you know, should i check the code in with patches applied ?16:02
SpamapSsmoser: I tend to just use .install files instead of patching in a Makefile .. but if there's a build step too.. then you kind of need a Makefile to get it right.. but then I wonder why its not in the orig source16:03
uvirtbotNew bug: #590537 in linux (main) ""lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions" keeps showing up in the system log" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59053716:03
smoserSpamapS, cause there really is no build step.16:03
smoseri just find a general 'make install' to be more useful than debian/rules install16:04
SpamapSsmoser: the install file would be a much clearer way to do it though, if all you're doing is copying files around16:05
smoserwell, its not only copying files. but i would still sort of disagree.16:06
smoser'make install DESTDIR=' is quite standard and expected.16:06
smoserso i just added one that does that.16:06
kiallsmoser, you seem to know a thing or two about UEC ;) .. Neither my UEC instances, nor the euca community cloud instances can ping their own public IPs .. do you know if thats a bug? or bad config? or intended?16:07
smoseroh. kiall its user error ;-)16:07
smosermost likely16:08
smosersecurity groups16:08
kiallI'm not sure it is to be honest, I can ping the public IPs of other instances in the same security group, just not that one.. (in case you didnt get what I meant - Running a ping command on Instance X, aimed at Instance X's public IP fails)16:09
smoserwell, i dont know what that should do to be honest16:10
smoserit seems inconsistent with other results16:10
smoseri would suspect its a bug, at least worth opening one.16:11
kiallit certainly works on EC2, and would require hairpin NAT on the CC to work ... which half works at the mo (ping another instances public IP, and you geta  reply from the private IP)16:11
mvohi, quick question - is vm-builder no longer maintained and if not, what is the new way to create a minimal kvm/qemu image (I need this for my automatic upgrade tester).16:13
jdstrandmvo: it hasn't received as much love as it should... can it not create a natty vm?16:14
jdstrandmvo: fyi, I still use it, but haven't tried a natty vm yet. if it doesn't work, I'll update it16:14
mvojdstrand: it tells me it can not create a maverick VM - that is a bit of a blow to me16:15
mvojdstrand: I use it too and I love it16:15
jdstrandreally... interesting16:15
jdstrandlet me look at it16:15
mvojdstrand: thanks, its enough that you verify that I'm not blind (or stupid) - I can fix it myself and I'm happy to do a SRU if its really not working16:16
jdstrandmvo: I can confirm16:16
mvojdstrand: dang, thanks16:16
mvojdstrand: I test a fix now16:16
mvocrazy!16:16
jdstrandmvo: if you file a bug, I can get it fixed in natty. you can pursue an SRU if desired16:17
ScottKPerhaps it just means you're supposed to be working on Natty and not Maverick now.16:17
jdstrandheh16:17
mvojdstrand: don't worry, I take care of this one :) but it would be really good if it would get a bit more love  in the future (/me looks at soren)16:18
mvoScottK: heh :) it needs to create maverick chroots to test maverick -> natty upgrades16:18
ScottKmvo: I know, but it was funnier my way.16:19
jdstrandmvo: ok, thanks16:19
mvoScottK: that is true :)16:19
jdstrandmvo: can you also update it for natty?16:19
jdstrandmvo: meaning, create natty VMs as well as maverick?16:19
mvosmoser: are you using vm-builder for the ec2 images? or do you have a different tool?16:19
mvojdstrand: in the sru ? or for natty? (or both ;) ?16:20
smoservm-builder slightly branched https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-virt/vmbuilder/0.1116:20
smoser(and old)16:20
jdstrandmvo: for natty definitely, but I think for SRU would be great. it is one of those things like debootstrap...16:20
maxagazhi16:20
mvojdstrand: ok16:20
maxagazhow to untar.gz all files of a drawer at once ?16:21
jdstrandin fact, istr it being on one of the ReleaseCycle lists...16:21
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mvosoren: if you add me to the approriate group I will be happy t merge/upload vmbuilder for natty with maverick and natty in it16:33
mvojdstrand: what branch did you use for your natty upload? or did you patch directly?16:35
mvojdstrand: aha, I see quilt?16:36
jdstrandmvo: let me see...16:38
jdstrandmvo: I'm not the maintainer per se, but have updated it a few times. I just would use quilt and upload and let the autoimporter deal16:39
mvojdstrand: thans, I will just do that16:40
jdstrandsure16:40
mvojdstrand: I just asked you because you touched it last ;)16:40
jdstrandI figured. that is all I did16:41
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jmgallowayanyone here good with ssh?16:46
jmgallowayI have an authentication failure question16:46
uvirtbotNew bug: #676141 in squid (main) "squid's apport hook should include /var/log/squid/cache.log in crash reports" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67614116:47
jmgallowayI keep getting this error:  Received disconnect from 192.168.1.131: 2: Too many authentication failures for clcuser16:47
jmgallowayI have uninstalled, reinstalled, changed the maxauthtries variable in ssh_config, tried to re-exchange rsa keys....nothing works.16:48
jmgallowayI have passwordless ssh login on each of my machines due to rsa key exchange.  two of my servers give me the too many authentication failure error...16:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #676144 in eucalyptus "ec2metadata should not add trailing / to requests" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67614416:51
smosermvo, as you probably guessed i already patched 'natty' string in16:52
mvosmoser: do you use your own branch ? i.e. is that not going into trunk?16:54
smoserwell, that should go into trunk, yes.16:55
smoserbut i'm branched off 0.1116:55
smoserjust because i have never spent effort to move forward16:55
mvosmoser: aha, ok16:55
mvosmoser: thanks :)16:55
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hallynSpamapS: Daviey: did you ever hear anything i said during the chat?17:43
Davieyhallyn: no :(17:43
hallynhm.17:43
hallynat least i was able to hear y'all, which was an improvement17:44
hallynbut i really don't see why ppl like the touch interfaces.  I want a scrollbar!17:44
RoAkSoAxis there a meeting today? (if so 18:00 UTC or 19:00 UTC?)17:44
ScottKServer meeting already happened17:44
RoAkSoAxoh really? lol17:44
RoAkSoAxScottK: to what time has it been changed to?17:45
RoAkSoAxnevermind I just remembered17:47
matt_keyshow do you tell lmsensors that a temperature sensors is a temperature sensor? I can see the correct results from sensors, but when I query 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.16 it's putting them all into the misc category18:01
zacaI need some help18:27
zacaWhile installing my 32 bit server, after creating a username, another install progress bar appears and then just stops at 5%18:28
highvoltagezaca: who doesn't?18:28
zacahmm18:32
zacaCan you upgrade from desktop edition to server edition inside linux?18:32
matt_keyszaca : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop -y18:37
zacaThank you for your help, it's really appreciated.18:39
zacabut won't that install the desktop version?18:39
zacaI mean, I think I can have desktop ubuntu working fine18:39
zacafrom there, can I install/upgrade to server from the ubuntu desktop?18:39
ZMohi, which is the better distro for a kvm/corosync server between lucid and maverick? I mean, is there some particulary work on maverick about virtualization against lucid? Thanks18:39
matt_keyssorry read that wrong... I suppose the opposite would work--sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop18:40
matt_keysserver is just desktop without the guis...18:40
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zacaAh, No extra functions are installed?18:40
zacaanything like.. "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server" ?18:41
matt_keyszaca : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq#What%27s%20the%20difference%20between%20desktop%20and%20server?18:42
zacaThank you very much, matt.18:43
zacaI'm switching from Microsoft Web Server18:44
zaca200818:44
matt_keysyou just need server then18:44
zacai just need to install apache then18:44
zacait's an old desktop pc18:45
matt_keysyeah just install server and select the LAMP category when it asks what to install18:45
zacaLinux Server keeps getting stuck at %5 after creating a username.18:45
matt_keysverify your installation media. i've had that happen a few times before from either a bad CDr or burn speed18:46
zacapossibly18:46
hallynkees: drat, 'CAP_SYS_ADMIN' for dmesg, eh?18:46
zacathe CD I burned just before worked perfectly18:46
zacaso I am assuming18:46
keeshallyn: as a possibility, yeah18:46
zacabut now I don't have an os on the only machine with the cd burner. :p18:47
zacawell, I'm going to run the server install for a moment here18:48
hallynkees: my 'drat' was at re-using cap-sys-admin18:48
zaca"Check disk for defects"18:48
jjohansenkees: oh please not CAP_SYS_ADMIN, a new cap maybe?18:48
hallyn@jjohansen++ :)18:49
zaca"Checking CD rom integrity"18:51
zacaFAILED18:51
zacacorrupted.18:52
qman__it can also be caused by a failing/incompatible drive, too18:53
qman__I haven't run into that problem since about 6.06, but still18:53
qman__if it's an older machine, consider trying a different drive18:54
zacaI think the drive is fine, but thanks, I'll try the second cd drive.18:55
zacaand that isn't sarcasm. >.>18:55
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slicslaksomething is eating proc on my box, can't even run top18:57
slicslakis there a lighter command (options for ps?) that show me the top proc eating processes?18:58
qman__slicslak, yes, but I don't know them off the top of my head18:59
qman__you can also use `top -n1`18:59
qman__to output a single reading18:59
zacaUbuntu TRY desktop works fine18:59
zacagoing to use it to burn another server install disk19:00
zacaactually...19:00
zulsmoser: whats the bug number again?19:00
smoserSpamapS, if you're bored (or if anyone is), you could review https://code.launchpad.net/~awstools-dev/+junk/iamcli . i'm wanting to get that into archive (bug 675686)19:00
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 675686 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] package amazon iamcli" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67568619:01
smoseroops.19:01
smoserbut that is the bug. sorry for spam, spamaps19:01
zacaCan I  "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server" ? from inside TRY desktop?  Would that work to install the server?19:01
qman__not exactly19:01
qman__you'd have to first remove all the desktop stuff19:01
qman__then switch kernels19:01
qman__then install the server bits you want19:02
zacait's trying the desktop19:02
zacaTRY running off the CD19:02
zacafrom there can I install the server to disk?19:02
qman__not directly19:03
zacaunfortunately, the other drive isn't connected/ out of comission19:03
zacais it possible to remove the live CD to burn another for a few minutes? >.>19:05
zacaI'm probably asking very stupid questions19:07
zulsmoser: after a quick look at it....i have two things (1) fix the changelog (2) and in the debian/control move the ${misc:Depends} to the end19:08
smoserwhat is wrong with changelog ? the ~natty ?19:08
zacaHaha19:09
smoserzul, ^19:09
zulsmoser: the ~ppa1 bit19:09
zuler...ppa0 bit19:10
zacanevermind... won't even let me use the drive even though the live cd is out19:10
smoserpushing those now19:10
zulsoser: lemme know when done ill upload it19:13
zacaThanks for your help guys19:13
zulsmoser: ^^^19:13
zacaI know it's a bitch helping linux newbs. :D19:13
smoserzul, done19:14
smoseroops19:14
smosershoot19:14
smoserlp:~awstools-dev/+junk/iamcli is done now.19:15
smoserrev 2119:15
keesjjohansen, hallyn: it's the syslog CAP again...19:16
keeshallyn: see, we needed it now! :)19:16
SpamapSsmoser: did we file a blueprint to add all the missing aws tools as erichammond asked?19:17
hallynkees: no argument.  sadly, i only just realized that linux-security-module is another list whose subscription got dropped19:17
smoseri dont know if there is a blueprint, SpamapS19:18
smoseri dont think so19:18
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hallynkees: i don't even remember what happened to htat patch19:18
keeshallyn: it's gotta be in there somewhere...19:18
zacaAwesomesauce, Booted up with Live Desktop, using the burner to burn another, hopefully good, server install cd19:19
hallynkirkland: if i wanted to switch kvm-pxe to use the new gpxe tree...  should i jsut create an ubuntu/natty/gpxe and have the ubuntu/natty/etherboot go away, or should i try and 'update' the etherboot tree with the gpxe contents?19:19
hallynkees: you mean in the archives?19:19
keeshallyn: yeah, I assume. I mean, I remember reading it a while back.19:20
kirklandhallyn: is gpxe a new project?  ie, is it separate from etherboot?19:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #676208 in backuppc (main) "package backuppc 3.1.0-6ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: underprocess installerade post-installation-skript gav felkod 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67620819:26
hallynkirkland: gpxe is the new etherboot19:26
kirklandhallyn: i haven't looked at it much, but I'd think this would be a new package we'd need to add to the archive, no?19:27
kirklandhallyn: ie, it's more than just a name change, right?19:27
hallynkirkland: right, and i'm going to19:27
hallynjust wondering how19:27
hallyni dunno how much the actual code layout has changed19:27
hallynit is a new git tree19:27
kirklandhallyn: okay, so first, check that debian hasn't packaged it yet19:27
kirklandi don't see it19:27
kirklandhallyn: perhaps look for an ITP (intend to package)19:28
kirklandhallyn: and if it's not packaged, then yeah, we'd need to package it up19:28
kirklandhallyn: as of debhelper7, packages from scratch are pretty trivial19:28
* hallyn 's eyes glaze over at 'debhelper7' :)19:29
hallynall right, ITP - obviously the way to go!19:29
hallynthanks19:29
hallyn(in fact, maybe i/we asked about that a few months ago)19:29
zacaHey, Matt, thanks for the help19:30
SpamapSkirkland: note that there's a new tool, 'pkgme' that should make packaging from scratch even easier... sort of the debhelper equivilent of dh_make.19:58
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ScottKSpamapS: You should consider some of the acronym expansion in that sentence.19:59
SpamapSScottK: I see no acronyms... ?20:01
ScottKSpamapS: What is dh_make short for.20:01
ScottK(specifically the dh part)20:01
SpamapSScottK: right, but dh_make is crusty and doesn't do what pkgme intends to do. ;)20:01
ScottKOK.  But a debhelper version of debhelper make is nonsense.20:02
SpamapSwell its the debhelper equvilent.. I actually meant to type debhelper7 equivilent.. as the idea is to just type 'pkgme blah' like 'dh blah'20:03
SpamapSthough the end goal is really to be able to determine a) what IDE/build system/etc. was used to produce the cwd's source, and b) what is missing to fill in a complete debian dir from it.20:04
SpamapSthen of course, c) if all is available, make a debian dir.20:04
ScottKRight.20:05
smoserwhere is pkgme ?20:05
smoserSpamapS, ^20:06
smoserkirkland, ping20:06
kirklandsmoser: pong20:06
smoserhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smoser/+junk/uec-on-ec2/files has 'maverick-commands' that turn ec2 image into uec20:07
zacaSo far my server install is going smoothly, I ran the CD check and it passed20:07
smosererr ec2 instance into a uec20:07
smoserand that is functional20:07
smoserso you can likely just scrape that for your live iso20:07
smoserie, somewhere in that 150 lines might be something that makes your iso work20:08
SpamapSsmoser: https://launchpad.net/pkgme20:10
eriksson25Need help, I compiled some mantis driver for my tv card. But it jamed the system, wouldent boot, Only solution was to remove the card. Then it worked as usual. How can I remove this drivers?20:19
eriksson25I installed with this, sudo dkms add -m mantis -v mercurial20:20
eriksson25sudo dkms build -m mantis -v mercurial20:20
eriksson25sudo dkms install -m mantis -v mercurial20:20
zacaI'm installing ubuntu server20:24
zacaand I'm unsure what each of all these packages I can install do20:24
zacaI know I want the LAMP, print20:24
zacabut I don't know what they all do >.>20:24
RoyKjust start off with ssh20:25
RoyKthen you can install the rest afterwards20:25
RoyKif you need mysql and apache, use lamp, if not, just stick to a simple install20:26
zacaI plan for this to be used for web serving, FTP, print serving20:26
zacaI'd like to be able to remotely manage it20:26
zacaPossibly mail20:27
RoyKLAMP = linux + apache + mysql + php20:27
RoyKfor an ftp server, no need for that20:27
RoyKfor a web server, apache will do, unless you want wordpress or something on it20:27
zacamy website uses a lot of PHP20:28
RoyKall packages are installable after initial install20:28
RoyKso never mind - just start out with ssh and lamp20:28
RoyKlamp will install myql, which may not be needed, but it won't hurt much20:29
zacaokay20:29
zacaSounds good to me.20:29
zacaI just can't find a list online describing the function of each package/collection20:29
aCleverMonikerHey everyone.  I have a strange issue.  I can see /var/www shared from my server on both windows and osx boxes on my network, but I *don't* have nfs-kernel-server or samba installed.20:30
aCleverMonikerI'm trying to figure out what is causing it to be shared.20:30
zacaI've selected lamp,, mail, print, openSSH and I think I'll continue with that.20:30
RoyKzaca: if you're a newbie (which I suspect you are), just start off with lamp+ssh and take it from there20:30
zacadefinitely a newby with linux and servers20:30
zacamy skills are more limited to local networks and individual computers20:30
RoyKzaca: never mind - learn as you go20:31
RoyKaCleverMoniker: perhaps AFS is involved?20:31
zacaI'm a beast with windows20:31
aCleverMonikerRoyK: I'm not sure.  How would I check that?20:31
zaca:D  but that's $300 software20:32
RoyKaCleverMoniker: just install the nfs kernel server - never mind about the rest20:32
zacawould you suggest using a password for MySQL?20:32
RoyKzaca: would you recommend having a secure network?20:32
zacathat's a yes20:33
aCleverMonikerRoyK: I had it installed originally, but I was having trouble seeing anything in exports (except for /var/www) on my windows/mac boxes.  I decided to uninstall it and switch to samba, but when I uninstalled it, I'm still able to see /var/www.20:33
aCleverMonikerSo that's concerning.20:33
zulsmoser: do you want me to upload that?20:34
zacaI usually accomplish that by very strict firewall use.20:34
smoseryes please.20:34
zacatalking out of my ass a little20:34
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RoyKzaca: firewall security doesn't count if you have a bad webapp where people can insert user/pass for the mysql db20:35
RoyKzaca: and those things happen more often than you want to know20:35
zaca-nods-20:36
zacaI've noticed a large number of annoying dictionary attacks through ftp20:36
RoyKnever use ftp20:37
zacasftp then?20:37
RoyKit's a highly insecure protocol20:37
zacavery open to man in the middle20:37
RoyKsftp, as in ftp over ssh, yes20:37
RoyKsftp with ssl/tls is somehow insecure as well20:37
RoyKssh is quite secure20:37
zacaThis is also a home network20:38
zacathe reason I'm still ignorant about it it because I haven't felt that security is absolutely needed.20:38
RoyKimho all networks should be built by a fanatic paranoid sysadmin :รพ20:38
zacaI'll be back in about 20 minutes, the server is installing the packages, I have to pick up my little brothers from school20:39
zacaThanks RoyK20:39
amarcolinohi I can't seem to mount cdrom on a clean install of ubuntu lts running in vbox, command outputs mount: can't find /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab20:41
amarcolinowhat do I need to do to get the cdrom showing?20:41
matt_keyshow do you tell lmsensors that a temperature sensors is a temperature sensor? I can see the correct results from sensors, but when I query 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.16 it's putting them all into the misc category20:42
zulsmoser: done20:48
smoserwhoowhoo20:48
zulhggdh: do you want to file a bug on it?20:54
hggdhI think I should. Hell is that there are no logs20:55
hggdhzul: ^20:55
zul*grr*20:55
hggdhzul: bug 676245 opened; we do not have a way of getting the logs, but the kernel folks can access the system anytime they want21:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 676245 in linux "Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 not recognised on install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67624521:03
zulhggdh: sweet...thanks21:03
Zacawesome sauce21:13
ZacThe server is finished installing21:13
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Guest99415booting up for the first time21:13
Guest99415nick21:14
Guest99415-nickname21:14
Guest99415I forget how to do this21:14
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ZacServerInstallawesome21:14
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okaynick ZacharyUServer21:20
okayhello21:20
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ZacharyNewbI've just installed my server, and it's now running21:21
ZacharyNewbhowever I have no idea how to configure it21:21
ZacharyNewbI'd like to start with web serving21:21
ZacharyNewbI already have an entire website on the second ntfs drive21:21
ZacharyNewbI'm starting with ddclient for dynamic ip address updating21:23
ZacharyNewbhow do I uninstall ddclient?21:33
ZacharyNewbI need some help ?21:35
ZacharyNewbHow do I uninstall ddclient?21:35
jdstrandhallyn: fyi, I uploaded libvirt21:36
jdstrandhallyn: amd64 ftbfs because of the qemu-kvm ftbfs on amd64 I mentioned earlier today. when qemu-kvm is fixed can you either ping me or retry the libvirt builds?21:37
guntbertZacharyNewb: sudo apt-get remove ddclient21:37
ZacharyNewbdoes that remove all of it's configuration files as well?21:38
guntbertZacharyNewb: no21:38
ZacharyNewbAlright, I screwed up configuring it,21:38
ZacharyNewbI'm trying to delete those settings and retry21:39
guntbertZacharyNewb: then sudo apt-get purge ddclient21:40
hallynjdstrand: well that's just whacky, bc the exact same source did build in my ppa at https://launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/+archive/virt?field.series_filter=natty21:40
ZacharyNewbawesome, I love you21:40
guntbertZacharyNewb: you're welcome :-) (have a look at the !serverguide   some time :-))21:42
ZacharyNewbI'm trying to set up the dns updater21:43
hallynjdstrand: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/qemu-kvm/+builds  the amd64 build passed according to this21:43
ZacharyNewbwhat protocol do you think I need to use for no-ip.com ?21:43
guntbertZacharyNewb: look on their web site21:44
ZacharyNewbthey say http resquest21:44
ZacharyNewbbut that's not a listed option in ddclient ?21:44
jdstrandhallyn: I'm sorry. I meant to say that libvirt ftbfs because qemu-common isn't available on amd64, because qemu-common is built in the i386 builds and it ftbfs21:46
hallynah21:46
hallynok, i'm asking on #ubuntu-devel about the i386 failure21:46
hallynhm, well, i suppose i'll try here in a chroot first21:47
hallyndoh, i don't have a natty chroot yet :)21:47
guntbertZacharyNewb: If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)21:50
ZacharyNewbaha, of course21:50
jdstrandhehe21:51
guntbertZacharyNewb: as an example: http://pastebin.com/ABK5t4Gd21:54
ZacharyNewbguntbert: Yes, I found that.  Problem is I don't know the protocols for namecheap,  or their addresses or other settings.  Thanks you though,  I'm currently chatting with tech support.21:55
guntbertZacharyNewb: all right and Good luck :-)21:56
ZacharyNewbguntbert: don't know if install gedit was a good idea >.>22:07
guntbertZacharyNewb: ??22:07
ZacharyNewbguntbert: trying to edit the ddclient.conf file22:08
ZacharyNewbdon't know how to open it, perhaps using gedit?22:08
guntbertZacharyNewb: are you running a server with GUI?22:08
ZacharyNewbnope, probably the reason why it's a bad ide22:08
air^"nano ddclient.conf" ?22:08
ZacharyNewbahahaha22:09
ZacharyNewbSee, I realized I messed up when the server started installing tons of extra packages.22:09
air^:)22:09
ZacharyNewbso, "sudo apt-get purge gedit"  then?  remove all that crap I just installed? :p22:10
ZacharyNewb-waiting recklessly to hit enter with the command typed in, for someone to yell at him "No, you moron!  don't do it that way!"22:11
ZacharyNewb-22:11
ZacharyNewbFIRE22:12
ZacharyNewbwell, gedit's removed now, but a metric ton of extra packages are now installed.22:13
fluvvellZacharyNewb, sudo apt-get autoremove22:15
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: I'm starting over the server install completely.22:16
ZacharyNewbI need to learn more about the process anyway.22:16
fluvvellI'd not think that really necessary, but it can be a useful learning route.22:17
fluvvellyes22:17
ZacharyNewbWell now I'm stuck with..22:17
ZacharyNewbThe Server was absolutely perfect!22:17
ZacharyNewbonly the packages I needed! Barebones, simple and beautiful22:17
ZacharyNewbthen I recklessly run  install gedit22:18
ZacharyNewband I get a ton of extra crap22:18
ZacharyNewbsuddenly.22:18
ZacharyNewbmy virgin install has become very violated. ;_;22:18
ZacharyNewbI have to reinstall completely, fresh22:19
fluvvellZacharyNewb, if gedit was the only thing you installed, its not hard to remove22:20
fluvvellZacharyNewb, and autoremove cleans out un-necessary packages after you remove-purge it22:20
fluvvellTheres very little you can't undo during an ubuntu install22:21
ZacharyNewbfluvvell:  I love linux now.  I've been all giddy since rediscovering it. :D22:21
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: When I first started using it, it kept crashing, and was more difficult, now it's like a wetdream.22:22
fluvvellZacharyNewb, he he, whats not to love.  Re: gedit, when offering to install on my 8.04 server, it only wants to install 52 packages. Not what I'd call hugely problematic. (I'm remote accessing it via ssh)22:23
fluvvellZacharyNewb, and if I install it, then remove it later, apt-get autoremove will remove all 52 packages that are no longer needed.22:23
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: In past dealings in windows, SSH was a total bitch to set up, so I decided not to use it, despite knowing it would then be less secure22:24
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: I presume that ssh is much easier to use in linux?22:24
fluvvellZacharyNewb, its built in22:24
fluvvellZacharyNewb, and in windows, you just install putty. It takes all of about 5 seconds to download and install22:24
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: This computer I'm chatting on is running windows 7, dual-booting with ubuntu netbook22:25
ZacharyNewbrather, the two OSs are installed side by side22:25
fluvvellZacharyNewb, thats probably similar to how many of us started22:25
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: am I able to remotely access and control ubuntu server from windows?22:25
fluvvellI now only ever run windows in a virtual machine now.22:25
fluvvellNot if they are on the same computer22:26
ZacharyNewbno22:26
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: Ubuntu Server is on my old desktop pc connected to the router under the cabinet.  Beforehand I had Windows Web Server 200822:26
fluvvellZacharyNewb, the problem will be if you want to remote run any X based apps22:26
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: X being the graphics engine for linux? which understandably wouldn't work with windows connections?22:27
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fluvvellZacharyNewb, yeah, there are ways but it gets a bit complicated.22:27
fluvvellbut putty is your first point of call22:28
ZacharyNewbNg:  why do you keep toggling your nickname between uppercase and lowercase?22:28
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: for now I'd like to start with basic stuff22:28
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fluvvellZacharyNewb, yep good idea. Is your server installing now?22:29
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: would you suggest I switch to linux netbook to access the server?22:29
NgZacharyNewb: that's not me :)22:29
ZacharyNewbfluvvell:  yes, it is. installing base system, it'll take longer since it's having to do it via optical disk22:29
ZacharyNewb83%22:30
ZacharyNewb9022:30
fluvvellZacharyNewb, Its not critical at this stage, have you got a copy of putty installed on the windows box?22:30
ZacharyNewbnot currently, one moment, I'll install it on here now22:30
fluvvellthen you can remote into the linux server.22:31
hallynjdstrand: interesting, the gentoo forums suggest problems due to parallel builds22:31
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: What do I use to remote?22:32
hallyn(which woudl expalin the somewhat random failures022:32
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: With Windows Web Server 2008, I was using Windows 7 RDC (Remote Desktop Connection) to conenct, and was merely using certificate authentication on some random back alley port22:33
ZacharyNewbNow at  "Select and Install Software"22:34
ZacharyNewbfluvvell: putty.exe is on my desktop, I opened it and now I have a bunch of options22:35
ZacharyNewbfluvvell:  server isn't finished installing, but until then, Do I need any other application to use to remote into linux?22:35
kirklandsmoser: ping22:42
kirklandsmoser: i'm curious about the MIR items in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-desktop-images22:43
kirklandsmoser: I'd think for 11.04, we should be able to do this blueprint without MIR'ing stuff22:43
jdstrandhallyn: interesting. I've seen that before, but not on qemu-kvm22:43
air^hmm.22:52
air^I got a folder shared both through afp (for mac useage) and through nfs (for xbmc).22:52
air^I know netatalk supports "veto" to hide files, but what about nfs?22:52
fluvvellZacharyNewb, you only have a bash/command line on stock standard server install, so putty will give you that access.22:54
eriksson25Plz, how do I get rid of a installed mantis driver that is installed with dkms22:59
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cjc2010How do I go about creating 10 mailboxes23:20
cjc2010pls23:20
bluefrogcjc2010, install a mail server23:21
cjc2010pls name an easy to configure and light weight mail server for me to try23:22
eriksson25Plz, how do I get rid of a installed mantis driver that is installed with dkms23:23
cjc2010^that supports IMAP4rev123:24
uvirtbotcjc2010: Error: "that" is not a valid command.23:24
cjc2010^ that supports IMAP4rev123:25
uvirtbotcjc2010: Error: "that" is not a valid command.23:25
cjc2010that supports IMAP4rev123:25
bluefrogeriksson25, removing it seems a good idea23:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #676294 in openssh (main) "unable to open remote java application over ssh (UGBoJ)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67629423:26
cjc2010is Dovecot a good choice/23:29
cjc2010is Dovecot a good choice?23:29
eriksson25bluefrog Yes, but how, I compiled it with23:30
eriksson25sudo dkms add -m mantis -v mercurial23:30
eriksson25sudo dkms build -m mantis -v mercurial23:30
eriksson25sudo dkms install -m mantis -v mercurial23:30
eriksson25Any easy way to remove it?23:30
eriksson25If I have tha tv card in that the mantis drivers is for it wount boot. Gives me all kinds of strange errors. If I remove the card it works fine.23:31
eriksson25So I just want to remove the driver.23:31
bluefrogdkms remove23:33
eriksson25<bluefrog>, shuld I use -m or -all?23:35
bluefrogdon't know man dkms23:36
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eriksson25sudo dkms remove --all Mantis23:39
eriksson25Gives23:40
eriksson25Error! Invalid number of parameters passed.23:40
eriksson25Usage: remove -m <module> -v <module-version> --all23:40
eriksson25   or: remove -m <module> -v <module-version> -k <kernel-version>23:40
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