[00:00] <smw> pragmaticenigma, I know nothing about dell c400's. What problem are you having?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> ZenGuy: 9.04 great Ubuntu release, except for a little feature that really got at me by default, but yeah no longer supported, but that probably also means other distros that were based on it
[00:00] <pragmaticenigma> I've always had trouble with the graphics drivers
[00:00] <ZenGuy> sebsebseb: Should I remain with the stable version or go woth the beta?
[00:00] <pragmaticenigma> I was able to get 10.04 installed with using i915.modeset=0
[00:00] <smw> pragmaticenigma, what happens when you put in the disk?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> ZenGuy: oh of test disk, I guess try the stable first,  then you could try beta later as well if  not recoverd or whatever I guess
[00:00] <smw> pragmaticenigma, and that does not work now?
[00:00] <pragmaticenigma> but that same idea is not working with 10.10
[00:01] <smw> pragmaticenigma, what happens?
[00:01] <pragmaticenigma> I've tried that, I have also tried nomodeset
[00:01] <iflema> ~
[00:01] <pragmaticenigma> In both cases, X server fails to load
[00:02] <smw> pragmaticenigma, what is the video card?
[00:02] <smw> pragmaticenigma, lspci | grep vga
[00:02] <pragmaticenigma> The Dell C400 is a compact laptop running an Intel 82830 integrated graphics chip
[00:02] <smw> pragmaticenigma, lspci | grep -i vga
[00:02] <smw> pragmaticenigma, ok
[00:03] <sebsebseb> ZenGuy: also test disk and I guess maybe photorec as well, seem to only work on partitions that have been deleted,  what happended to yours anyway?
[00:03] <smw> pragmaticenigma, I am very sorry, I need to go
[00:03] <pragmaticenigma> I will have to boot it up here in a second with the Live disk running
[00:03] <ZenGuy> sebsebseb: i'm using testdisk now to back up the linux partition
[00:03] <pragmaticenigma> okay smw... thanks for your help
[00:04] <ish_> hey do u guys know of a program that can find the rgb value of any color on ur screen?
[00:04] <ZenGuy> I thought i deleted a video file but another windows with always on top was in the way so i stupidly confirmed...turns out I deleted my entire download folder sebsebseb
[00:04] <datadude> ish_: Take a screenshot and open in GIMP.
[00:04] <datadude> Hello, everyone!
[00:05] <sebsebseb> ZenGuy: oh
[00:05] <blackshirt> datadude: hello
[00:05] <ZenGuy> datadude: hey that's a neat trick to remember
[00:05] <pragmaticenigma> if you are trying to capture screen colors in your web browser there are plugins for firefox that work
[00:05] <datadude> First time in the channel: is this an advanced topics only channel, or are help requests permitted?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> !ask | datadude
[00:05] <ZenGuy> datadude: i think everythoings goes
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> guess datadude doesn't have a question
[00:07] <CIDR> I'm looking around on a guide to load balance, I know bonding isn't possible, multiple dhcp connections.  Any ideas?  Looking for a local linux solution, don't need to provide routing.
[00:07] <Skater0Guy> how do i fix this ^[[Askaterguy@skaterguy-A7N8X2-0:~$ sudo visudo
[00:07] <Skater0Guy> >>> /etc/sudoers: syntax error near line 22 <<<
[00:07] <Skater0Guy> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 22
[00:07] <Skater0Guy> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[00:07] <FloodBot1> Skater0Guy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <datadude> Thanks, guys. I'm an Ubuntu user who just switched to OS X as my primary OS, and I missed it too much. So I have an Ubuntu 10 virtual machine running, and I'm having a bit of trouble installing the Parallels Tools.  I'm curious if anyone else has run into these problems.  First I tried following the instructions here : http://kb.parallels.com/5560 and tried again, and then I found this : http://kb.parallels.com/4981 . Is it true that
[00:08] <datadude> Ubuntu isn't supported for Parallels Tools any more, or is that out of date? If it is supported, can someone suggest to me how to install it?
[00:08] <n2diy> There are a some webpages that keep timing out on me, at first I thought the websites were down, but this has been going on for a number of days now, other webpages like Yahoo and Google I have no trouble with, I tried pinging the websites and they don't respond, ideas?
[00:09] <charliebucket> has anybody got X working in 10.10 with the Intel i915 video card/driver.  I had to roll back to Lucid.  Maverick booted me right to a console... hmmm.
[00:09] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy, who is your ISP?
[00:09] <pragmaticenigma> I'm having the same issue charlie
[00:10] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: Blue Ridge Cable/PTD.net.
[00:10] <fiveam> Skater0Guy, log in as root
[00:10] <pragmaticenigma> I've had some limited luck with i915.modeset=0 charliebucket
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy: what region of the US are you in?
[00:11] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: E. Pa.
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy: I know that a lot of cable companies are in disputes with various web sites.  What websites are you trying to access?
[00:11] <Skater0Guy> skaterguy@skaterguy-A7N8X2-0:~$ login
[00:11] <Skater0Guy> login: Cannot possibly work without effective root
[00:12] <sixam> Skater0Guy, reboot with --init=/bin/bash and enable root or fix sudoers file
[00:12] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: odesk.com, and opinionoutpost.com
[00:12] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: What are some things you have tried to make it work?
[00:12] <sebsebseb> !root | Skater0Guy sixam
[00:12] <Skater0Guy> where do i fint the sudoers file
[00:12] <Skater0Guy> find*
[00:13] <sixam> sebsebseb, he killed his /etc/sudoers so locked out from sudo for good
[00:13] <pragmaticenigma> Skater0Guy: you should not access the sudo file directly
[00:13] <charliebucket> pragmaticenigma: I installed Lucid! :)  I needed the box up and working so I just reinstalled Lucid.  I came here to see if it was a known issue or just me.
[00:13] <sebsebseb> Skater0Guy: lets type instead :D  Ubuntu have a thing about root being enabled, sudo is meant to be used instead, however sixam seems to know what he/she is on about so listen to them
[00:13] <pragmaticenigma> Skater0Guy: use "sudo su" to gain access to root
[00:13] <Skater0Guy> well i did sudo visudo to change to no passwd then this started happening
[00:14] <turgon> hello any vim user?
[00:14] <pragmaticenigma> you have to access visudo with root account... you can't use sudo visudo it doesn't work...
[00:14] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: what type of system do you have?
[00:14] <magicianlord> how do you use vi in visudo?
[00:14] <Skater0Guy> my account is root
[00:15] <turgon> how can i run an external program from vim?
[00:15] <charliebucket> pramaticenigma: the box I have the problem on is an ACER 7741Z laptop.  Everything else worked out-of-the-ox.  Under Lucid it all works.  Wonder what happened to the video?
[00:16] <sixam> turgon, ! probably
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: The most common problem I run into is the Graphics Accelerator being detected as a false positive
[00:16] <Trea> is anyone able to help me out for a few minutes getting ubuntu dual booted?
[00:16] <sixam> Trea, with what?
[00:16] <magicianlord> Trea: in installer, it does it
[00:16] <turgon> sixam, yes it does... but i have a problem with it: it anytime i reexecute the program, i still see the previous results
[00:17] <pragmaticenigma> setting nomodeset and/or i915.modeset=0 stops the kernel from trying to autodetect card settings
[00:17] <charliebucket> pragmaticenigma: Thanks...I'll give that a try...
[00:17] <sirninja> I'm having trouble with my wireless frequently disconnecting and not reconnecting after that
[00:18] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: I have a Dell C400 laptop, right now I set it up with CentOS 5.5 just to get it running
[00:18] <mickster04> sirninja: howgood is signla strength
[00:18] <sixam> Trea, do you have other OS installed already? what's your partition configuration?
[00:18] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: only problem is CentOS is really outdated at the moment
[00:18] <sirninja> mickster04: It's good, I'm right next to the router
[00:18] <mickster04> sirninja: and i don't suppose it's a new router?
[00:19] <charliebucket> pragmaticenigma: I'm very happy with Lucid, esp since it's a LTS  But I don't want to fall too far behind the release schedule...  Thinking of maybe leaving Ubuntu.  Any recommendations?  Maybe straight Debian?
[00:20] <mickster04> charliebucket: i've heard good things about debian for reliability, arch for customisation, fedora for, well what do you want from your OS?
[00:20] <sixam> !pm | Trea
[00:20] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: I don't think there is a safe bet... I haven't looked up your exact specs on your machine, but guessing any of the newer editions are going to give both of us trouble
[00:21] <njbair> has anybody else experienced issues with the Ubuntu One contacts feature in evolution? I keep getting "other error" notifications when I try to change things
[00:21] <charliebucket> I really don't need to update every six months.  My rig is rock-solid and does what I need now.  I just don't wan to miss out on the new developments!!  :)
[00:21] <pragmaticenigma> I have tried OpenSuSE, Ubuntu (Lubuntu, Kubuntu) 10.10, Fedora
[00:21] <pragmaticenigma> all have them fail
[00:21] <himanshu> how to uninstall a software using cmd line? dpkg -purge <pks name>
[00:21] <himanshu> ?
[00:21] <datadude> Aha, looks like Ubuntu Forums answered my question re: Parallels.  What a ripoff! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1475607&page=2
[00:21] <sixam> dpkg -r <package>
[00:21] <himanshu> ok
[00:21] <jrib> charliebucket: so what you're saying is you want new software but don't want to install it?  :P
[00:21] <mickster04> charliebucket: i don't think you will, i mean you can still get the latest updates etc from an lts, thats the point of it, it is long term supported
[00:21] <foobaru> charliebucket: Depends on what you like. If you want bleeding edge use Fedora or rolling release like arch or Debian testing
[00:21] <GEEGEEGEE> is there something to make an image of a disk but to a remote ftp server instead of a local hard disk
[00:22] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: I wouldn't worry about missing out on anything... lately I have seen most developers offering their own ppa's for installing software directly from their own maintained repos
[00:22] <sirninja> mickster04: are you still here? Sorry, my wireless disconnected again
[00:22] <sixam> how to download *.deb from repo?
[00:22] <jrib> sixam: why?
[00:22] <mickster04> sirninja: humm, how new is the router in question (and the laptop for that matter)
[00:22] <pragmaticenigma> pidgin is one of them that I installed their PPA just so I can have the latest edition
[00:22] <turgon> when i run a program in vim using "!" how can i clean the buffer?
[00:22] <mickster04> sixam: you don't you install the software using apt get?
[00:22] <sirninja> mickster04: it's at my university. I seem to only have this problem in my dorm unfortunately
[00:22] <jrib> turgon: #vim
[00:22] <Trea> I have ubuntu loaded on a disk right now and I want to dual boot it with my current OS.  I tried going through the setup and when I select the drive i want to install it on and select the amount of space to get it I get a message saying I haven't selected the root I do believe it said.  Right now I'm running it off the cd just to get on here and get some assistance
[00:22] <ZenGuy> he's doing it wrong
[00:23] <sixam> jrib because apt-get and aptitude think my system has broken dependencies and stop
[00:23] <charliebucket> I agree.  I've got a Hardy Heron box at work that's till humming along great...  I guess I don't *have* to upgrade just because there's a new version available
[00:23] <turgon> #vim
[00:23] <mickster04> sixam: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade;
[00:23] <jrib> sixam: you should pastebin exactly what you are running and the full output so the channel can help you
[00:23] <pieces029> does anyone have a good way to stream video from a webcamera on a ubuntu box to a webpage?
[00:23] <GEEGEEGEE> is there something to make an image of a disk but to a remote ftp server instead of a local hard disk
[00:24] <turgon> jrib, i dont get it?
[00:24] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: it's always great to have the latest bleeding edge... but sometimes stability is worth the sanity
[00:25] <ir1844> how do i mount a cd rom and sony burner?
[00:25] <sirninja> mickster04: do you know where I could possibly see a log of what's going wrong? It sometimes causes nm-applet to crash. That might be enough to get me started to finding the solution
[00:25] <ir1844> how do i mount a cd rom and sony burner?
[00:25] <sixam> apt-get complains about broken dependencies (unrelated to package being installed) and stop doing anything it was asked to. how to get *deb manually?
[00:25] <charliebucket> pieces029:  Have you looked at 'motion'  http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/setup-an-advanced-webcam-security-system-with-ubuntu-8-04-and-motion/
[00:26] <pragmaticenigma> GEEGEEGEE: A paid program is Norton Ghost, which will let you upload to an FTP site... though it's not recommended to do anything over the network during a disk imaging
[00:26] <pieces029> charliebucket, no have not will check it out thanks!
[00:26] <pragmaticenigma> it's better to use a spare drive to store the file then transmit it
[00:27] <sixam> something like wget http://archives.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/lucid/pool/f/foobar/foobar_0.0_i386.deb ?
[00:27] <pragmaticenigma> GEEGEEGEE:  There are other solutions out there that allow backing up over the network but they use a setup server/client stup
[00:27] <himanshu> i installed oracle xe 10.2 version. Now i want to re-install (As i lost the passwrd for admin and other user, so i can't use it). Two things: is the only right option left? what is the package name that is to be give nto the dpkg -r command
[00:27] <pragmaticenigma> sixam: if you are having dependencies issues with apt-get you will not be able to install from the .deb file either
[00:27] <GEEGEEGEE> pragmaticenigma, ok, thanks :)
[00:28] <sixam> pragmaticenigma, dpkg -force-depends -i zzz.deb works
[00:28] <pragmaticenigma> yeah, that works but you risk system stability issues or the program not getting the dependencies it requires
[00:28] <sixam> but I don't know how to get repo address for the file
[00:28] <charliebucket> GEEGEEGEE: dd will work over SSH http://daverdave.com/node/65
[00:29] <mickster04> sirninjaI dunno where logs are, /var/logs?
[00:29] <sixam> broken dependencies I have have no relation to what i'm trying to do now
[00:29] <pragmaticenigma> okay
[00:29] <sc30317> does anyone know of a good network diagram tool for ubuntu?
[00:29] <SPooN> anyone used Mint 10 at all?
[00:29] <sixam> btw is there a way to 'remove' package but left its files on disk??
[00:29] <sixam> !mint
[00:30] <sixam> *leave
[00:30]  * SPooN was just looking for opinions
[00:30] <charliebucket> sc30317: have you looked at Dia? http://live.gnome.org/Dia
[00:31] <raskol> How can I change the language used by Ubuntu Software Center to describe applications?
[00:31] <red2kic> sixam: I don't know about apt-get -- but you're talking about downloading the package from the server? (ie, aptitude download pidgin)
[00:31] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: Have you tried Mint 10 on your rig?
[00:31] <sc30317> charliebucket, I have;
[00:31] <Trea> I currently have a HP laptop running windows 7 64bit with 4gb of ram, 320gb hard drive.  AMD Turion II Dual-Core Mobile Processor M520.  I'm trying to get it Ubuntu to dual boot on the hard drive.  When I get there in the installation I select my hard drive and then try to select the amount of space to give Ubuntu and then continue but i get a message saying I didn't select the root even though I selected as high up as I could
[00:31] <sc30317> charliebucket, I was looking for something like this: http://www.networknotepad.com/download.html
[00:31] <sixam> red2kic, aptitude tries to remove some packages instead of downloading what I ask :(
[00:32] <red2kic> sixam: That's awesome. :)
[00:32] <charliebucket> pragmaticenigma: no, I haven't.  I *did* recommend it to a friend since I heard it installs more by default.  I may have to look into that.
[00:32] <hiexpo> Trea, get use to linux first just run live cd
[00:32] <red2kic> sixam: Try again.
[00:32] <Agent001> Pretty impressive laptop trea
[00:32] <TeslaTony> SPooN, My recommendation is to try a USB flashdrive version of whichever Linux distro you want, and install your favorite.
[00:32] <wedwo-> Trea, select the "/" option
[00:33] <SPooN> charliebucket: it comes preloaded with flash & wine, meaning windows users will probably love it
[00:33] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: I think Mint is more interested in operating rather than graphics... I haven't tried it yet
[00:33] <pragmaticenigma> but it might be the solution for both of us
[00:33] <SPooN> TeslaTony: was unaware that you could USB boot Mint
[00:33] <charliebucket> Dumb question, but there's a liveCD version of Mint, ight?
[00:34] <foobaru> charliebucket: Yes
[00:34] <pragmaticenigma> yes
[00:34] <x404x> if i use mc to copy files will i loose long filenames ?
[00:34] <SPooN> Charlotiebucket: yes
[00:34] <TeslaTony> SPooN, If there is a livecd version of it, you probably can. I haven't run into many modern distros that don't work that way
[00:34] <sixam> charliebucket, DVD only
[00:34] <sc30317> charliebucket, ahhhh
[00:34] <sc30317> got it
[00:34] <sc30317> thanks
[00:34] <SPooN> Charlotiebucket: theres also a DVD version
[00:34] <Trea> Agent: thanks
[00:34] <ir1844_> im running ubuntu 10.10 but it did not reconize my cdrom and dvd player what should i do?
[00:34] <himanshu> what is a package in ubuntu jargon. When i install a .deb file, it gets stored in /usr/bin dir (lets say). How do i remove it?
[00:34] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: I reset my router, and now I can get the webpages.
[00:34] <himanshu> remove means using dpkg to remove it
[00:34] <ir1844_> im running ubuntu 10.10 but it did not reconize my cdrom and dvd player what should i do?
[00:34] <sixam> himanshu, dpkg -r <package-name-vithout-version-arch-and-stuff>
[00:35] <SPooN> !mint
[00:35] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy: glad to hear it
[00:35] <Trea> hiexpo: I use linux at work all the time I just wasn't the one to load it.  I wanted to have it on here so at times when I want to bring my work home with me I have a compatible system
[00:35] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy: When I used cable internet I had to reset my modem and router about once a week or every 2 weeks
[00:35] <magicianlord> Trea: what do you need
[00:35] <pragmaticenigma> for similar problems with website access
[00:35] <ir1844_> im running ubuntu 10.10 but it did not reconize my cdrom and dvd player what should i do?
[00:35] <sixam> Trea, try WUBI install, it's safest option
[00:36] <Jef91> Anyone here know there way around the Ubiquity installer well? I am trying to add SLiM login manager support to it
[00:36] <pragmaticenigma> ir1844_ please don't spam
[00:36] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: roger that, the modem doesn't give me any trouble, but the router acts up once or twice a month. knock knock.
[00:36] <Trea> magicianlord: well I was getting stuck when I was trying to select the hard drive and amount of space to partition off for Ubuntu to run on
[00:36] <sixam> ir1844_, install correspondong firmware?
[00:36] <hiexpo> Trea, i have never seen that dual boot last long
[00:36] <grr> my problem is that my client can not write to a mounted nfs share. the server is exporting the share as rw. does the server's exported directory permissions matter?
[00:36] <ir1844_> what is that?
[00:36] <Trea> sixam: where would I get WUBI install at?
[00:36] <Guest95105> hi guys im trying to restart crond in ubuntu but im getting this error
[00:36] <Guest95105> root@blurr:/etc/init.d# cron start
[00:36] <Guest95105> cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 26071: Resource temporarily unavailable
[00:37] <valentino_tuga> hi. Iḿ trying to change DNS server in resolv.conf file but, each time i start a new connection networkmanager resets and changes the DNS. is there a solution?
[00:37] <pragmaticenigma> n2diy: Until I got my Motorola Surfboard (don't recall the model) I had to reset the modem to get the memory buffers to empty
[00:37] <sixam> Trea, it's EXE file on Linux livecd
[00:37] <Guest95105> what does this meean?
[00:37] <hiexpo> !cron
[00:37] <pragmaticenigma> ir1844_:  Don't ask your question repeatedly in short duration
[00:37] <sixam> valentino_tuga, turn off dhcp?
[00:37] <raskol> !softwarecenter
[00:37] <superman> i read that already
[00:37] <superman> and it didnt work
[00:37] <ir1844_> ok
[00:38] <n2diy> pragmaticenigma: interesting, I'll keep that in mind.
[00:38] <sixam> superman, you have other crond with pid 26071 or ?
[00:38] <superman> i have no idea im new to linux
[00:38] <valentino_tuga> sixam, iḿ newbie. how do i turn off dhcp?
[00:39] <red2kic> valentino_tuga: I'm guessing. If you're using networkmanager, shouldn't you be changing the settings using networkmanager?
[00:39] <grr> having problem with nfs. client can't write, only read. anyone help?
[00:39] <magicianlord> Trea: are you trying to decide how much space to give to ubuntu?
[00:39] <Trea> sixam: I'll look to get that cd but right now I just loaded Ubuntu 10.10 ISO on a disk and am running off that right now, was hoping to get a better idea of where I was going wrong
[00:40] <valentino_tuga> red2kic, i have searched google and they tell me to change resolv.conf file
[00:40] <pragmaticenigma> grr: check your NFS setup, make sure that you are using a username and password... if your machine is able to access the shares without a password, it's likely it's a guest account without write access
[00:40] <superman> hey sixam it says this
[00:40] <superman> root@blurr:/etc/init.d# pidof cron
[00:40] <superman> 26071
[00:40] <sixam> Trea, well, you need to create a partition to install ubuntu to
[00:41] <superman> so cron is already running im assumming but im wanting to restart it
[00:41] <sixam> superman, kill it then
[00:41] <valentino_tuga> how do i turn off dhcp?
[00:42] <red2kic> valentino_tuga: You could do "chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" so nothing can modify it.
[00:42] <grr> pragmaticenigma: userids and passwords on server and client.
[00:42] <MagicJ> how do I change the screen that is shown as the system boots
[00:42] <Trea> sixam: yea, when it allows me to pick it has my hard drive at the top and then under that all the partitions it currently has.  I selected the highest level and then tried to continue.  Do I need do something else first?
[00:42] <sixam> valentino_tuga, open the wired connection properties in Network manager
[00:42] <coldboot|home> Does anyone know what part of the operating system will automatically mount any anonymous volume, and load up a nautilus window with the mount point in /media/<partition-hash> ?
[00:42] <sixam> "highest level"?
[00:42] <grr> pragmaticenigma: where should userid and password be?
[00:42] <pragmaticenigma> valentino_tuga: you can't turn off DHCP, you can set a static IP address for your network adapter in Network Manager which is effectively the same
[00:43] <valentino_tuga> thanks all
[00:43] <pragmaticenigma> grr: I haven't worked with NFS before... I usually use samba so my windows boxes have easy access
[00:43] <Trea> sixam: I'll leave here and go back through the options and write it all down if it won't allow me to do the dual boot.  I know you can't help much when I'm not giving you good information
[00:43] <sixam> Trea, wait do you have a free disk partition?
[00:44] <grr> pragmaticenigma: I understand that. But I want to learn NFS first.
[00:44] <raskol> How can I change the language used by Ubuntu Software Center to describe applications? It is currently in German
[00:44] <magicianlord> you can resize it
[00:44] <pragmaticenigma> You NFS "server" will need accounts setup on it... usually by default you will have your user accounts that are on the "server" box enabled by default
[00:45] <pragmaticenigma> from your "client" machine you might have to go to your "Places" menu, then go to "connect to..." and then select NFS
[00:45] <pragmaticenigma> I don't have ubuntu running right now, I use Kubuntu
[00:45] <nesto100> Can anyone help me out on enebaling 5.1 analog surround sound on my desktop? I'm on Ubuntu 1.04, and the sound's integrated...
[00:46] <MrDudle> 1.04?
[00:46] <pragmaticenigma> I think they ment 10.04
[00:46] <hiexpo> he means10
[00:46] <magicianlord> yes
[00:46] <magicianlord> he meants 10.4.1
[00:47] <nesto100> 10.04
[00:47] <nesto100> lol my bad
[00:47] <isleshocky77> Ever since upgrading to Ubuntu 10.10, Evolution sucks. Anyone else having issues? It keeps having my imap inbox disappear with all other subscribed folder. I have to go to "Folder"->Subscriptions and reload that account for them to come back.. and then it disappears 10 minutes later. Any idea?
[00:47] <percious> is it possible in ubuntu to compile libraries as both 32 and 64 bit?
[00:47] <charliebucket> I hate to beat a dead horse, but if I were to load Mint in a virtualbox session and it worked, would that mean the video would work outside of VirtualBox?
[00:48] <nesto100> Can anyone help me out on enebaling 5.1 analog surround sound on my desktop? I'm on Ubuntu 10.04, and the sound's integrated...    <-- There fixed... :P
[00:48] <percious> IE, to have linkable libraries for both bitcounts
[00:48] <pragmaticenigma> isleshocky77: I have never had any luck with evolution, I have had great luck with Thunderbird
[00:48] <sixam> percious, yes, just specify architecture explicitly
[00:48] <pragmaticenigma> charliebucket: No, VB uses a special custom "hardware" identifier
[00:49] <Irok> There is a metallic ring to all sound. I have no idea what's wrong! Ubuntu 10.10, nvidia ion (sound via hdmi)
[00:49] <Jef91> Anyone here know there way around the Ubiquity installer well? I am trying to add SLiM login manager support to it
[00:49] <charliebucket> Thanks.  Saved me an evening of frustration!
[00:50] <pragmaticenigma> but you never know... Mint 10 might better identify or gracefully setup your graphics
[00:50] <nesto100> Ok, another question since the last one doesn't seem like it's going to be answered....  How can I update SMPlayer
[00:50] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: I've been using Evolution for years now without an issues. Very sad to see it have issues. I put in a bug report into launchpad a couple of days ago, but no response yet.
[00:51] <sixam> Jef91, ubiquity just copies whatever you put on disk...
[00:51] <pragmaticenigma> isleshocky77: I honestly thought the project had been abandoned
[00:51] <meowsus> Does anyone know how to properly configure acpid to work with pm-utils? I run a mini install of ubuntu and i want to make sure my computer suspends and hibernates properly when the lid is closed
[00:51] <grr> pragmaticenigma: problem was that the permissions on the server directory evidently need to support rw . otherwise clients can not write to it.  seems obvious but this was not on my reference.
[00:51] <sixam> pragmaticenigma, no, but only RH work on it
[00:52] <pragmaticenigma> I only use e-mail and a calendar so Thunderbird plus Lightning plug-in works great for me
[00:52] <pragmaticenigma> have it synced with google calendars
[00:52] <pragmaticenigma> and my gmail account
[00:53] <superman> hey sixam
[00:53] <superman> i killed it
[00:53] <superman> but it just came right back up with a  new pid
[00:53] <Jef91> sixam It has a "auto matic login" option box that only works with GDM/KDM/LXDM - not SLiM
[00:53] <djGentoo> Hey, I can't get my 10.10 partition to boot all the way.
[00:53] <djGentoo> It hangs after checking battery state.
[00:53] <tato_42> does anyone know how to move all the icons on the left hand screen to the bottom on 10.10 mav
[00:54] <djGentoo> This is after the upgrade, but I haven't used it for a while.
[00:54] <pragmaticenigma> tato_42: click and drag them there
[00:54] <tato_42> ok thanks i'll give it a try
[00:54] <sixam> Jef91, then that is a slim problem for not following standard
[00:56] <superman> hey guys or sixam why is it doing this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/532691/
[00:56] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: Evolution!?! It's the default PIM for Ubuntu with GNOME
[00:56] <raskol> superman: you killed crond, it didn't delete its own pid file
[00:57] <pragmaticenigma> isleshocky77: Ubuntu is dropping it in the next release I believe
[00:57] <superman> so what am i to do raskol?
[00:57] <shawnboy> How do I change the partition Grub 2 is installed on?
[00:57] <Jef91> sixam You obviously have not looked at the source code for Ubiquity - it has separate entries for each KDM, GDM and LXDM. Not just some "Standard"
[00:57] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: Did Thunderbird ever fix their contact manager? That's why I stopped using it a long time ago.
[00:57] <Jef91> I understand you are trying to help sixam but please be informed :(
[00:57] <raskol> superman: (it uses this file to make sure two cron applications aren't running concurrently and, say, overwriting your good logs with empty ones from the last 500ms)
[00:57] <raskol> superman: try deleting /var/run/crond.pid
[00:57] <raskol> superman: and avoid killing crond in the future
[00:57] <pragmaticenigma> what was wrong with the contact manager?
[00:58] <superman> thanks a lot  raskol it worked  may i ask why what can happen?
[00:58] <raskol> superman: use /etc/init.d/cron restart
[00:58] <shawnboy> anyone?
[00:58] <djGentoo> My 10.10 setup hangs after checking the battery state, I think this is the first boot after upgrading, and I haven't used it in a couple weeks.
[00:58] <shawnboy> moving Grub 2 to different partition?
[00:58] <raskol> superman: Probably not a lot, cron itself is old and heavily focused on not having concurrency problems, but you can lose state and important "transactions" can be interrupted
[00:59] <pragmaticenigma> djGentoo: are you able to post up what you are seeing in the pastebin?
[01:00] <superman> ok raskol  one last question do i save this as a  .sh file? http://www.learncpanel.com/cpanel-tutorials/how-to-setup-load-alerts-on-your-dedicated-server-or-vps/
[01:00] <djGentoo> pragmaticenigma: I'll see if I can get to the logs from here (Windows 7), but I doubt it
[01:00] <djGentoo> It just says "Detecting battery state" and locks up.
[01:00] <djGentoo> This is after disabling the splash, of course.
[01:00] <shawnboy> I need a load alert for my Grub 2
[01:01] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: Do you know if there is a replacement they're going to be using?
[01:01] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: Also, do you have a source or reference that they'll be removing evolution in the next release. Can't seem to find that anywhere.
[01:01] <shawnboy> I hear the price of turkey in germany has increased.
[01:02] <raskol> superman: I'm having problems with that website. It looks like there's a 34-line script lacking a shell type line, then a crontab line, then a line to restart crond
[01:02] <pragmaticenigma> isleshocky77: I haven't found it either... It's something I thought I read in passing a few months ago
[01:02] <shawnboy> otherwise the vinegar in the storehouse is only good on Thursdays.
[01:02] <raskol> superman: You should make a file /root/loadalert with the line:
[01:02] <raskol> #!/bin/bash
[01:02] <raskol> then that 34-line script following
[01:02] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: I can't believe they would remove it since I've never heard of a replacement for it.
[01:02] <raskol> superman: if you trust that website, anyway
[01:02] <shawnboy> I can't believe it either. I'm appalled.
[01:03] <superman> well my ssh its having spike problems and i think its a memory thing
[01:03] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: Has Thunderbirds contact manager gotten any better? (ie multiple address, phones, emails, dates, notes  - full vCard)
[01:03] <Znuff> Hi. Can you start byobu at boot with a program like you used to do with screen? but have the program dispalyed the first tiem you log in?
[01:03] <superman> i wanted to check a script that e-mails me when a process is load
[01:03] <superman> is high
[01:03] <superman> to see if that is the problem
[01:03] <shawnboy> I doubt the problem has anything to do with covering.
[01:03] <pragmaticenigma> not really isleshocky77, it appears that you can set a private and work address
[01:04] <shawnboy> I usually set the common address
[01:04] <djGentoo> pragmaticenigma: No luck on the logs. I remember the last thing it said was "Detecting battery state", though, and it skipped that if I removed the battery.
[01:04] <rizalinux> hello alll.....???
[01:05] <pragmaticenigma> djGentoo: it still stalls with battery removed?
[01:05] <shawnboy> rizalinux: forget it. nobody here interested in interacting.
[01:05] <djGentoo> Yes, but it doesn't show the message, just the ones before it.
[01:06] <pfifo> how can I fix this 'libssl-dev : Depends: libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8o-1ubuntu4) but 0.9.8o-1ubuntu4.1 is to be installed' im on 10.10
[01:06] <isleshocky77> pragmaticenigma: I'm going to check out this. Looks promising. http://mozillalabs.com/messaging/thunderbird-contacts/
[01:06] <shawnboy> this channel sucks tonight. how worthless and rude to not even acknowledge anyone.
[01:06] <ubuntu> hola
[01:07] <sixam> pfifo, try sudo apt-get update first
[01:07] <pragmaticenigma> isleshocky77: that would be really cool if I could get that to sync with google contacts
[01:08] <pfifo> sixam, same error
[01:08] <superman> hey raskol in ssh it says this
[01:08] <CIDR> I have multiple internet connections that I use iproute2 for multi-wan/round-robin.  The problem is the connections aren't all that reliable and go up and down.  I'd like to write a script to ping say google/yahoo, determine weather the router is up or not, then adjust the default route according.  I've tried a few starts on it, but I'm not getting anywhere.  Any suggestions?
[01:08] <superman> root@blurr:~# bash loadalert
[01:08] <superman> sort: open failed: +2: No such file or directory
[01:08] <superman> sort: open failed: +3: No such file or directory
[01:08] <superman> root@blurr:~#
[01:08] <isleshocky77> Yes. I have ~500 contacts with lots and lots of details which sync between google, evolution, and my phone.
[01:08] <FloodBot1> superman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <superman> what does that mean?
[01:09] <pragmaticenigma> superman: the url that FloodBot has sent you is where you should have posted your earlier messages
[01:10] <Irok> I made a /etc/asound.conf, lost sound, deleted the asound.conf, rebooted, but still have no sound. What can I do?
[01:10] <tory> Where can i find a good #Java channel on freenode? ##Java says i have to be invited to join the channel
[01:10] <pragmaticenigma> then posted the link it gives you at that site back here
[01:10] <raskol> tory: you need to register w/Freenode
[01:10] <sixam> pfifo, do you have security updates repository enabled? the site says maverick has ...-4.1 version
[01:10] <djGentoo> pragmaticenigma: Any suggestions?
[01:10] <red2kic> tory: For starters, register your nickname
[01:11] <sixam> http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/libssl-dev
[01:11] <pragmaticenigma> I'm not sure djGentoo... I don't think it's something to do with your battery... it's what ever is trying to load afterwards
[01:11] <tory> done but i forgot how to login
[01:11] <tory> "/msg or something?
[01:11] <pragmaticenigma> what was the last thing you did with the machine before this happend?
[01:11] <pfifo> sixam, no way, that update popup is the most annoying thing ever
[01:12] <djGentoo> pragmaticenigma: With Ubuntu, upgraded from 10.04. Then I just left it alone and went back to Windows for a while.
[01:12] <superman> im sorry prag / guys here is the script + the ssh error http://paste.ubuntu.com/532694/
[01:12] <djGentoo> I'll try to see what the next step of the boot process is.
[01:13] <bawn> bawn is in da house
[01:13] <bawn> who has problems, i'm here for ya bud
[01:14] <Ste4lth> i have problems
[01:14] <bawn> yes?
[01:14] <jstoone> hi guys, we're two buddies playing around with circuit board we made in school, it has a 7 sigment LED display on it, do any of you know how to output to it? it's connected to /dev/ttyUSB0 with a USB to Parallel&Seriel converter..
[01:14] <Ste4lth> tell me how to stop all network connectivity on ubuntu without stopping the actual card, packet wise, i don't want ANYTHING going through until i start a program
[01:14] <pragmaticenigma> djGentoo: I have a feeling you might have to re-install
[01:14] <djGentoo> Ugh.
[01:14] <pragmaticenigma> maybe bawn knows
[01:14] <red2kic> Irok: http://imadethisdesign.blogspot.com/2009/11/htpc-zotac-ion-n330-xbmc-vdpau-1080p.html ?
[01:15] <bawn> im thinking
[01:15] <djGentoo> Installing in the first place was kind of a pain in the ass, especially getting my NVidia card working, so I'm trying to avoid it.
[01:15] <magicianlord> Ste4lth: yo
[01:15] <magicianlord> djGentoo: nvidia is easy
[01:15] <pragmaticenigma> ubfw is your answer Ste4lth
[01:15] <magicianlord> djGentoo: i can help you
[01:15] <djGentoo> Irok: What's the problem again?
[01:15] <Ste4lth> ubfw?
[01:15] <bawn> Ste4lth, what exactly do you mean by the card being on packet wise
[01:15] <djGentoo> magicianlord: I figured it out eventually, there was a walkthrough.
[01:15] <Ste4lth> bawn: i mean, start up wireshark, see nothing going through other than the network discovery, etc...
[01:16] <Ste4lth> bawn: no outgoing packets
[01:16] <bawn> okay
[01:16] <djGentoo> magicianlord: http://code.google.com/p/vaio-f11-linux/wiki/NVIDIASetup <-- This was what did it for me.
[01:16] <bawn> i happen to use wireshark
[01:16] <afeijo> how can I map a network drive (my host disk) thru ssh ?
[01:16] <Chaos2358> hey guys i am running 10.10 on a laptop and have the laptop connected to a 46 in television via s-video cable. i have great picture but the text is a little small. I have tried desktop zoom function from compiz and it apparentlly isnt compatible with video out and i have also tried changing the screen resolution. when i change resolution the text is enlarged but the second monitor "television" flickers really really badly. any ideas on how to either fix
[01:16] <Chaos2358>  this or an app i can use to get same results?
[01:16] <blind> hey i keep losing audio in flash videos... i downloaded the latest from adobe, then found out chrome uses its own flashplayer.so so i replaced it with the one i downloaded from adobe. makes for a much smoother experience, but im still losing audio randomly..
[01:16] <djGentoo> red2kic: That link might help you/Irok too, I'm using a GT330M too.
[01:17] <Trea> sixam: I just went back through and wrote everything down
[01:17] <sixam> how nautilus guesses filetype for files without extensions?
[01:17] <magicianlord> djGentoo: all you do is this. dl it from nvidia.com and save it to your home dir. nano into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add "blacklist nouveau" and "blacklist nvidiafb" then save and reboot. hold shift while booting to enter grub2 menu and select recovery mode. drop to root prompt. init 3. then log in with regular account and "sudo sh NVIDIA..." installer. let it xconfig and done.
[01:17] <pragmaticenigma> brb folks
[01:17] <bawn> Chaos2358, do you have the appropriate drivers?
[01:18] <red2kic> Chaos2358: Change Font Size in Appearance Preferences?
[01:18] <Jordan_U> afeijo: sshfs [user@]host:[dir] mountpoint [options]
[01:18] <djGentoo> magicianlord: That failed me about five times over. The walkthrough showed me how to plug in the EDID, and that fixed it.
[01:18] <Irok> djGentoo: I had very metallic sounds in Ubuntu. I.e. I could hear all the sound, but with metallic scratchy noises along with it. So I made a asound.conf, after which I got NO sound, but deleting the file and rebooting didn't help. aplay -D -hw:1,7 path/to/wavfile gives perfect sound though
[01:18] <Chaos2358> when i run the driver program t doesnt find any missing
[01:19] <bawn> Irok, do you have a soundblaster card by any chance?
[01:19] <magicianlord> djGentoo: EDID? oh i c. good to know
[01:19] <Chaos2358> no havent tried font size
[01:20] <bawn> Chaos2358, i happened to have the same problem too, before, and figured out that tv's arent my thing
[01:20] <pragmaticenigma> I had metallic sounds too Irok, but it was only happening in pidgin and just set that to manually output all sounds to aplay
[01:20] <pragmaticenigma> mine is an integrate intel chipset
[01:20] <magicianlord> intel gpu is best for linux
[01:20] <magicianlord> because it's open source
[01:20] <Irok> bawn: nope, nvidia ion 2
[01:21] <bawn> usually that means you need to turn down your volume software wise
[01:21] <magicianlord> goodnight
[01:21] <pragmaticenigma> magicianlord: I beg to differ... I can't get my intel 82830 graphics chip to work in 10.10
[01:21] <aeon-ltd> magicianlord: the performance sucks though
[01:21] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, i have mine working
[01:21] <aeon-ltd> damn. he/she/it left
[01:21] <Chaos2358> ok i tried font size and though it increases it cuts off alot in the window instead of giving me a horizontal scroll
[01:21] <Trea> I'm back, could someone help me get ubuntu to dual boot on my system please
[01:21] <Barridus> is there a linux twitter client that is actually reliable, unlike gwibber?
[01:21] <bawn> trea sure
[01:22] <FloridaGuy> anyone able to please help....??    ....   ??  running ubuntu 10.10....trying to install canon printer drivers....on cnijfilter-common_2.90-1_i386.deb...i keep geting ..there seems to be a programming erorr in aptdaemon....i have uninstall it and all its dendencings and reinstalled and still geting the samething ?? i need my printer
[01:22] <Trea> bawn: mind if I im you, I've got all the details of the last time i ran through the setup
[01:22] <timposey> Ubuntu 10.04 was working fine this morning, turned it on when I got home and boots up normally and enters desktop, but says networking disabled and I cannot click on anything with the mouse on the menu bar.  Nothing will work, I can click on icons on desktop and they will open, anyone got any idea?
[01:22] <pragmaticenigma> how did you get it running, I can't even get the live Cd to work
[01:22] <yagoo> FloridaGuy, you tried install/search for "pcf" with your package manager?
[01:22] <yagoo> FloridaGuy, cups is nice
[01:22] <red2kic> Chaos2358: If possible, use HDMI or VGA when you're outputting to the bigger monitor.
[01:22] <Irok> djGentoo: Ok, I'm progressing. In mplayer, if I specify -ao alsa:device=plughw=1.7 I get perfect sound. How do I make that device the system default?
[01:22] <bawn> Trea, huh?
[01:22] <rusivi> FloridaGuy: Did it work in Lucid?
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: how did you get the intel 82830 working?
[01:23] <FloridaGuy> yagoo, no dident do a pcf
[01:23] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, i needed to run forcevideo
[01:23] <Chaos2358> the s-vid is the only thing the tv and laptop share
[01:23] <FloridaGuy> rusivi, dident run lucid
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> can you post up some sort of instructional or link to a help page?
[01:24] <rusivi> FloridaGuy: may want to try the Live CD of Lucid see if the printer works in it
[01:24] <Chaos2358> no hdmi on laptop and the tv doesnt have the standard monitor plug like most. it has the squared off looking crap sony experimented with
[01:24] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, could you get the terminal to work?
[01:24] <FloridaGuy> yagoo, rusivi i see on the web alot of aptdaemon programming erorrs with no fix's
[01:24] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: Not exactly
[01:24] <Trea> bawn: when I went through the setup on Ubuntu to dual boot it I got to the screen where I allocate the drive space.  It showed my devices in there, I selected /dev/sda which should be the hard drive as a whole.  I said install it said, "No root file system is defined.  Please correct this from partitioning menu"
[01:24] <djGentoo> pragmaticenigma: Could you tell me what the files are in /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d for you?
[01:24] <Chaos2358> brb gonna try rebooting after changing font size
[01:25] <djGentoo> I'm trying ti figure out what the step after battery detection is.
[01:25] <djGentoo> *to
[01:25] <pragmaticenigma> I don't have a laptop running ubuntu at the moment
[01:25] <djGentoo> Anyone else?
[01:25] <djGentoo> I just want a directory listing.
[01:25] <bawn> Trea, that is sorta warning you that you will be using the whole harddrive for single boot
[01:27] <Trea> bawn: ok then which of the devices should I select to get it partitioned?  I also tried to select /dev/sda2 but no luck either, same error
[01:27] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: I can get terminal if I boot with nomodeset
[01:27] <FloridaGuy> rusivi, why try that....download 600 meg when i can install something eles that i know my printer works on
[01:27] <pragmaticenigma> what next?
[01:27] <bawn> Trea, can you take the free space from one of the partitions, and make a new partition with it for ubuntu?
[01:28] <bawn> Trea, and make a new partition
[01:28] <jags> can I partition a flash drive to have a bootable ubuntu on it, and the rest ntfs storage space, I have a 16GB stick, what size should the ubuntu partition be?
[01:28] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[01:28] <SPooN> if I have a file on my host computer can I get it on a VM?
[01:28] <blackshirt> hello everybody...
[01:28] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, once you are there, run 'forcevideo', it worked for me
[01:28] <Trea> bawn: i selected /dev/sda2 and said change the partition size of that one, is that where I would do that?  As I was looking the add button was greyed out at this point
[01:29] <trojan_spike> jags, do u mean a live usb?
[01:29] <bawn> yes, Trea
[01:29] <timposey> anyone having trouble with ubuntu 10.04 menu not responding, nothing in the bar at top or bottom of page will respond
[01:29] <pragmaticenigma> how do I make it permanent
[01:29] <pragmaticenigma> when I complete the isntall bawn?
[01:29] <bawn> Trea, you make one partition smaller, while you make room for a new one
[01:29] <Trea> bawn: ok when I went in there I can change the size, but the other options is where I got confused in there
[01:29] <jags> trojan_spike, yes I'd like to have a live usb drive, but I'd like to keep a good majority of the space ntfs, I can partition a flash drive or not?
[01:29] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, it works on livecd, too if you can work it right
[01:30] <Trea> bawn: what would I want to use the partition as?  It gave me a drop down list of options
[01:30] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[01:30] <FloridaGuy> i know 10.10 is useing aptdaemon....can i switch back to the older package installer
[01:30] <bawn> FloridaGuy, what do you mean?
[01:30] <pragmaticenigma> I know bawn, but I want to install and have it permenatly work
[01:30] <bawn> FloridaGuy, it's been apt for a long time
[01:31] <trojan_spike> jags, yea u can partition it with ntfs 13GB first,, then use the rest for the iso ubuntu
[01:31] <elijah> I am using Kubuntu 10.10, my mouse keeps disappearing off the screen, is there a way I can keep my mouse on the screen?
[01:31] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[01:31] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, once forcevideo is done, you can start the desktop environments and configure further
[01:31] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: I understand that, but what am I configuring?
[01:32] <pragmaticenigma> Obviously network manager isn't going to fix the problem... what programs/applications should I use to make the configuration?
[01:32] <jags> trojan_spike, so I only need 2GB for ubuntu?
[01:32] <bawn> the resolution, by default is usually too high for that chip
[01:32] <jags> trojan_spike, 3GB*, and does that include swap?
[01:33] <Trea> bawn: when I change the size of the drive to partition, lets say I drop it to 225000 then the left over should become a free partition for me to install ubuntu on?  and if so what do I want to use that partition as when I go into the change menu?
[01:33] <bawn> jags, i use 1 gb and it works great with ubuntu
[01:34] <bawn> Trea, you should see some grey area, and you can create a new ext3 or ext4 partition for that new empty space
[01:34] <jags> Is there a security distro of ubuntu, I mean with network tools on a live cd?, or should I look to another distro?
[01:35] <Irok> aplay -D plughw:1,7 etc works, but how do I make that system default?
[01:35] <bawn> Trea, the leftover, essentially is nothing, with no partition whatsoever, unless if you create a new one, or expand the old one
[01:35] <Trea> bawn: ok doesn't matter which one I select then?
[01:35] <blackshirt> jags: what you mean ? backtrack maybe
[01:35] <FloridaGuy> bawn, guess i was thinking of the other part of apt....gdebi.......
[01:35] <jags> blackshirt, yah thats what I was thinking, forgot the name
[01:35] <bawn> trea ext3 is more compatible, and ext4 journals, apparently quicker
[01:36] <Trea> bawn: ok thank you very much I'm gonna give it another go now
[01:36] <blackshirt> jags: you can install security tool under ubuntu
[01:36] <jags> blackshirt, yah i know, I was looking for a something I could use live on a flash drive
[01:37] <SPooN> how do you run executable files...
[01:37] <jags> blackshirt, but forgot what backtrack was called, thanks
[01:37] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[01:37] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: I think I missed something with forcevideo... is that something I add during boot?
[01:37] <blackshirt> jags: ok
[01:37] <P2E> I have to disable my laptop buttons (like volume/mute/etc beside my keyboard) before I go insane, can anyone tell me what I need to uninstall?
[01:37] <blackshirt> djGentoo: what the problem with your boots ?
[01:38] <djGentoo> blackshirt: It hangs after the message "Detecting battery state".
[01:38] <djGentoo> It's not the battery, since it hangs without the battery in, just without that message.
[01:38] <sixam> SPooN, specify full path to it in bash
[01:39] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, it is a program that changes resolutions for xorg
[01:39] <pragmaticenigma> not available on the livecd
[01:39] <bawn> trea you are welcome
[01:39] <SPooN> sixam: bash = terminal?
[01:39] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: or is it an argument I place after startx?
[01:40] <jags> Can I put multiple live distros on a single usb stick?
[01:40] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, im pretty sure it's a command built into xorg
[01:40] <jags> meybe install something like grub along with it?
[01:40] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, before
[01:40] <sixam> SPooN, yes
[01:40] <blackshirt> SPooN: what you mean /
[01:41] <pragmaticenigma> I'll see what happens
[01:41] <pragmaticenigma> right now it takes forever in a day to boot off the live on this machine
[01:41] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, good luck
[01:41] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, wait
[01:41] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: what am I waiting for?
[01:41] <xangua> jags: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-multiboot-usb/
[01:41] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, i said it can work on livecd, but it is only for the livecd session
[01:42] <pragmaticenigma> right now if I use the command forcevideo it says it doesn't recognize it as a command
[01:42] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, if you want it to work on the harddrive, you do it on ther, good luck
[01:42] <jags> xangua, thanks much
[01:42] <bawn> hmmmm weird
[01:42] <pragmaticenigma> I can't get ubuntu installed without the GUI bawn
[01:42] <bawn> alt cd?
[01:43] <pragmaticenigma> no, using live DVD
[01:43] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, alternate dvd is for you, if u wanna avoid gui
[01:43] <clutch_> I haven't updated to Karmac Koala but as of recently it boots me into a CLI interface. It was recently doing a fix for the system. Can anyone help me?
[01:43] <pragmaticenigma> whenever I use the alt, I can never figure out how to install Gnome or KDE so I can get somewhere
[01:44] <xangua> pragmaticenigma: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for gnome, kubuntu-desktop for kde
[01:44] <bawn> gnome is in the ubuntu install pragmaticenigma  not kde, that's just... how it is
[01:44] <pragmaticenigma> I know that
[01:44] <SqlShell__> hi all
[01:44] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[01:44] <pragmaticenigma> I was refering to a simple way to install one or the other
[01:44] <SqlShell__> salam
[01:45] <blackshirt> sqlShell: salam alaika
[01:46] <SPooN> !mint
[01:46] <bawn> !ubottu
[01:47] <SqlShell__> what is the best ubuntu10 or backtrack4 ?
[01:47] <pedestrianentran> when I plug in any usb device, my ( ubuntu 10.04) system does not seem to mount the devices. I don't get a shortcut on the desktop and I can't find them in the file system. I have to reboot with the usb device plugged in in order for it to be mounted. Any ideas how to make this stuff work automatically?
 ubtuntu 10.10
[01:47] <blackshirt> SqlShell: it justa based your need...
[01:48] <SqlShell__> i need for hacker hhhhhhhhhh and use backtrak4
[01:49] <xangua> !backtrack > SqlShell__
[01:49] <blackshirt> SpooN: i think ubuntu best for other reason..and maybe not suite for other reason
[01:49] <uncola> pedestrianentran, that's weird, I thought ubuntu automatically mounted usb drives
[01:50] <pedestrianentran> uncola: it used to, until I upgraded to 10.04
[01:50] <blackshirt> SqlShell: just use it...feel free to use it..it's opensource
[01:51] <cain22> hello all
[01:51] <arranon> Hi there. I'm trying to setup ubuntu netbook remix, and it looks like the setup screen resolution isn't supported. Anything I can do?
[01:51] <uncola> pedestrianentran, check this page it has some info on enabling/disabling automounting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[01:51] <blackshirt> cain22: hello
[01:51] <pedestrianentran> uncola:thanks, Ive been reading that before coming here to ask
[01:52] <cain22> arranon: luck with the unr...its good stuff
[01:52] <uncola> arranon, could you plug the laptop into an external display and try it that way?
[01:52] <gong42> hi, i've been trying to install 10.10 on an intel imac today and i keep getting kernel panics - unable to mount root fs.
[01:53] <xrdodrx> Has anyone figured out how to resolve this Gnibbles bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/654272
[01:53] <SqlShell__> thinks  ubottu and  blackshirt
[01:53] <Beloved_One> hi
[01:53] <Beloved_One> i got a question
[01:53] <The_Tick> gong42: why would you do that?
[01:53] <xrdodrx> !ask | Beloved_One
[01:54] <pedestrianentran> usb storage devices are not being mounted by my ubuntu 10.04 system.... dmesg gives the following error (sometimes) after plugging in the device:  new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4          and         device not accepting address 6, error -71              ...........any ideas?
[01:54] <Znuff> Some people are serious about gnibbles, lol
[01:54] <gong42> The_Tick, i know i know.  i had to do it at work and i spent all day on it with no success.  still bothering me that i couldn't install an OS :P
[01:54] <Beloved_One> i have vista and of course i want to change over but will my files get erase during installention
[01:54] <SqlShell__> bye
[01:55] <xangua> Beloved_One: if you install ubuntu in all the HD yes
[01:55] <pedestrianentran>  /join #linux
[01:55] <Vic> bonjour
[01:55] <xrdodrx> Znuff, if you're talking about the one that said it's __CRUCIAL__, that's yours truly
[01:55] <The_Tick> gong42: no I mean
[01:55] <The_Tick> gong42: run a vm and put linux in it
[01:55] <Beloved_One> so i would need to store all my data before installention
[01:55] <xrdodrx> Beloved_One, correct
[01:56] <Beloved_One> i dont care about vista anymore
[01:56] <xangua> if you want to install ubuntu in all the HD, yes Beloved_One
[01:56] <Guest28070> est ce que quelq'un serait français et pourrait m'aider pour ubuntu
[01:56] <Beloved_One> ok
[01:56] <Znuff> Beloved_One, or make sure you resize your partition properly
[01:56] <xrdodrx> !fr | Guest28070
[01:56] <Znuff> !fr
[01:56] <gong42> The_Tick, i need to run it natively.  i'm building it for one of the dickhole devolopers.
[01:56] <Znuff> xrdodrx, if it's *that* serious, just recompile it?
[01:56] <The_Tick> gong42: give him a dell
[01:56] <The_Tick> seriously, that's a waste of money
[01:56] <Beloved_One> would it also erase my program files
[01:56] <The_Tick> anyhow
[01:56] <Guest28070> Someone speaks french here?
[01:56] <gong42> believe me, i'd love to
[01:57] <xrdodrx> Znuff, I tried, I have no idea how. Isn't this supposed to be linux for human beings? Just saying.
[01:57] <bill_> how do i get potable apps (.bin) files to execute under Xubuntu
[01:57] <The_Tick> gong42: so what's the problem?
[01:57] <gong42> i have a pile of them to get rid of
[01:57] <The_Tick> gong42: I'll take one :)
[01:57] <xrdodrx> Znuff, we can continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic, if you'd like :)
[01:57] <The_Tick> my mbp died
[01:57] <The_Tick> need one to work on perian and growl
[01:57] <Znuff> Beloved_One, are you familiar with the concept of partitions?
[01:57] <xangua> Beloved_One: if you want to install ubuntu in all the HD, ALL will be erased
[01:57] <gong42> when i try to boot livecd or install, it kernel panics about 2 seconds in with unable to load fs as root
[01:57] <Beloved_One> yes, dual booting
[01:57] <Znuff> xrdodrx, no thx, I'm just saying, you should just recompile your game if it's that serious
[01:58] <Znuff> Beloved_One, You realise what disk partitions are and that they can be resized?
[01:58] <gong42> i tried no acpi, using root=/dev/sr0 or 0b00 since that's the device that shows up before the kernel panic
[01:58] <xrdodrx> Znuff, want to help me? It's not as easy as it looks. I'd have to recompile the whole gnome-games, because the gnibbles package doesn't have its own makefile, etc
[01:58] <gong42> and used both the normal alternate version and the mac alternate version and experienced the same issues
[01:58] <Beloved_One> yes i even know how to triple boot
[01:58] <The_Tick> are you sure it's intel and not ppc?
[01:59] <gong42> yes
[01:59] <xrdodrx> not to mention I am on a netbook, so the time involved in doing that would be crazy
[01:59] <gong42> it's an aluminum (not white) core 2 imac
[01:59] <gong42> 24"
[01:59] <Beloved_One> i will be doing it over my laptop
[01:59] <Znuff> Beloved_One, then just resize your Vista partition(s) and make room for your ubuntu. Then you won't have to erase your data.
[01:59] <CIDR> It's kind of a convoluted question, but basically I have multiple connections/routes.  To use them the default route looks something like, ip route add default nexthop via x.x.x.x dev eth1 nexthop via x.x.x.x dev eth2 nexthop via x.x.x.x eth3 nexthop via x.x.x.x eth4, etc...  There's a number of connections, but they aren't always stable.  I can do like a ping -c 1 google.com -I eth1 && echo ok to get wether or not the interface is up, but how d
[01:59] <CIDR> The only thing I've come up with so far is having if statements for each possibility, but with 4 interfaces you have a TON OF possibility, one up, two up, three up, all 4 up, etc...
[01:59] <Sannya18> hy all
[01:59] <xrdodrx> Sannya18, hi
[01:59] <Znuff> xrdodrx, nah, it's been 3+ years since I compiled gnome, wouldn't be of so much help
[01:59] <GeekyAdam> hi
[01:59] <The_Tick> gong42: this is with 10.10?
[01:59] <xrdodrx> GeekyAdam, hi
[02:00] <Beloved_One> ok will ubuntu have access to my files as well
[02:00] <The_Tick> gong42: if so, try 10.04 ;)
[02:00] <Znuff> Beloved_One, yes
[02:00] <gong42> yeah, i also tried 9.04 and had the same thing
[02:00] <The_Tick> bleh
[02:00] <xrdodrx> Znuff, okay then. I've grown rather attached to the gnome-games over the years, lol
[02:00] <The_Tick> sounds like it's panicing
[02:00] <Beloved_One> ok but if i do the full install i would need to hackup all my files, ok i got it
[02:00] <arranon> is there a boot option i can enter during setup to change the instlaler resolution?
[02:00] <gong42> it installs os x just fine
[02:01] <gong42> i just installed a new 500gb ssd in it, do you think that could have something to do with it?
[02:01] <The_Tick> gong42: try debian
[02:01] <The_Tick> see if it even boots
[02:01] <gong42> well i tried it in another 24" imac with a normal hd and it did the same thing i guess
[02:01] <The_Tick> or some other distro
[02:01] <gong42> even livecd
[02:01] <The_Tick> do they care about what distro it is?
[02:01] <The_Tick> or just that "it's LOONIX!"
[02:01] <zheng> How to set DHCPv6 for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, for DHCPv4, it is: iface eth0 inet dhcp.
[02:01] <gong42> well it must be upgraded to the most recent at some point
[02:01] <gong42> all of the developers are using 10.10
[02:02] <The_Tick> they want a pretty machine with a non-pretty gui
[02:02] <The_Tick> that's irony
[02:02] <xrdodrx> !enter | gong42
[02:02] <xrdodrx> and The_Tick
[02:02] <Beloved_One> lol
[02:02] <The_Tick> xrdodrx: I'm 28, I'm not going to change
[02:02] <The_Tick> I don't see you helping him
[02:02] <Beloved_One> is it possbile to use cs3 or 4 on uvuntu
[02:02] <The_Tick> gong42: anyhow, I dunno man
[02:02] <john38> Anybody here getting sub par performance with Nvidia GTX 470
[02:03] <gong42> yeah i had to put it on a brand new macbook pro just the other day D:
[02:03] <The_Tick> gong42: that's horrible
[02:03] <The_Tick> gong42: maybe it has to do with the firmware?
[02:03] <avelldiroll> gong42: did you check the md5sum of the isos you downloaded ... and checked the CDs ?
[02:03] <xrdodrx> !wine | Beloved_One
[02:03] <Beloved_One> ty
[02:04] <gong42> yes avelldiroll, on all 4 distros i tried
[02:04] <bawn> Beloved_One, try playonlinux
[02:04] <Znuff> Beloved_One, adobe's apps kind of blow under wine.
[02:04] <john38> Beloved_One,  try PlayonLinux
[02:04] <pragmaticenigma> adobe has native apps for linux... what are you trying to run?
[02:04] <bawn> john38, are you copying me?
[02:04] <john38> bawn, what
[02:04] <bawn> lol
[02:04] <john38> bawn, oh.. you already said that
[02:05] <bawn> great minds think quite the same
[02:05] <afeijo> how can I map a network drive (my host disk) thru ssh ?
[02:05] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: I'm grabbing the Alt Install disk... I let you know what happens
[02:05] <Beloved_One> plAYON LINUX?
[02:05] <john38> Beloved_One, find it in software center
[02:05] <john38> Anybody here getting sub par performance with Nvidia GTX 470
[02:06] <xangua> !manual | Beloved_One
[02:06] <raidel> i can't install google earth
[02:06] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, if im still on here that is
[02:06] <xangua> raidel: just give permitions to run like a program to the bin (tight clic>properties) and.....run it
[02:06] <xrdodrx> Has anyone figured out how to resolve this Gnibbles bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/654272
[02:07] <Beloved_One> TY I HOPE TO MAKE LINUX MY MAIN OS
[02:07] <bawn> Beloved_One, playonlinux is one word, if u wanna install it run 'sudo apt-get install playonlinux'
[02:07] <Beloved_One> I WILL CHECK IT OU
[02:07] <Beloved_One> OUT
[02:07] <xrdodrx> !caps
[02:08] <djGentoo> Can anyone tell me what files are in their /etc/rc3.d and /etc/rc5.d? I'm trying to figure out how to fix my boot sequence.
[02:08] <Beloved_One> ok
[02:08] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: I doubt I will get a chance to install it tonight
[02:09] <tripelb> how do I make VLC be my default for video files?
[02:09] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, the partition thing in alt install is a bit scary, so use gparted first, if u need a partition
[02:09] <pragmaticenigma> I just don't understand how the Alt CD is going to work any better than the regular disk
[02:09] <xangua> tripelb right clic> properties> open with
[02:09] <pragmaticenigma> I'm familiar with the partitioning... really only need to setup swap and a root partition
[02:10] <avelldiroll> tripelb: right clic on a video file > properties > open with > select vlc
[02:10] <avelldiroll> art ... late ...
[02:10] <Znuff> pragmaticenigma, the alternate install doesn't depend on certain modules like the live one does... it's kind of a fail-safe install
[02:11] <cynfab> testing weechat
[02:11] <jags> is there a good non command line program like winrar for linux? Archive manager can't seem to open rar files
[02:11] <pragmaticenigma> I know bawn has been a great help, but I will ask it again since some new faces are here... right now we are attempting to install the Alt CD to attempt a different way to get X and Gnome running... has anyone here had difficulties with intel 82830 integrated graphics chips ?  (Dell c400 pentium 3)
[02:11] <neiz> is there a ventrilo client for ubuntu?
[02:11] <cynfab> testing weechat
[02:12] <xrdodrx> !info unrar | jags
[02:12] <GeekyAdam> neiz: mangler?
[02:12] <Sannya18> i like join to a (open source)game developer team. can anybody help me?
[02:13] <xrdodrx> Sannya18, as your first order of business, fix gnibbles ;)
[02:14] <ge0rge0000> hello all! I have problem with emoticons at amsn,i can't see anyone! Some friends send me many emoticons and the only thing i can see is a blank space.
[02:14] <ge0rge0000> has anyone this problem?
[02:14] <zheng> How to set DHCPv6 for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, for DHCPv4, it is: iface eth0 inet dhcp.
[02:14] <xangua> neiz: did you install rar unrar ¿
[02:14] <The_Tick> ge0rge0000: talk to amsn people
[02:14] <xrdodrx> Sannya18, in all seriousness, go to open source games' pages that you already play, most of them you can get started right away by contributing code
[02:14] <tripelb> avelldiroll, yes, that is what I am doing now to play with VLC. I guess I will continue itt.
[02:15] <Tweaky> hi. ive noticed in terminal when i get a ls or dir of a large directory when i scroll up it doesnt show all of it just some. how do i change this to veiw it all
[02:15] <Znuff> Sannya18, try Warsow!
[02:15] <Sannya18> xrdodrx: you know someone?
[02:15] <xrdodrx> ge0rge0000, you may be better helped in #amsn
[02:15] <Sannya18> thx
[02:15] <jags> is there anyway to quickly get the filepath that your currently @ in nautilus onto the clipboard, so it can be pasted into a terminal?
[02:15] <Znuff> Sannya18, or OpenTTD!
[02:15] <elijah> If I remove the proprietary driver (nvidia) do I have to restart or logout in order to use the FOSS driver?
[02:15] <ge0rge0000> there is noone here ,thats why i asked here
[02:15] <uncola> so I'm going to install ubuntu server to create a NAS..  should I just use EXT4 for my hard drives or is there a better file system I should use?
[02:16] <xrdodrx> ge0rge0000, actually, there's 24 people there
[02:16] <Znuff> uncola, you should use a simple distribution like FreeNAS if you want just a nas
[02:16] <Beloved_One> hmmm question is their a way i can store like gbs of files on the web until i am done installing
[02:16] <kotu> Hello! Do you know a simple way to use notebook as a second screen? I've got it connected to my PC using LAN. On each machine I've got Ubuntu 10.10/Gnome desktop
[02:16] <ge0rge0000> i mean there is noone at the keyboard
[02:17] <xrdodrx> !ubuntuone | Beloved_One
[02:17] <Znuff> kotu, Synergy?
[02:17] <hurstman54> My audio is broken.  If I play enough videos it somehow manages to fix itself.  But audio breaks again when my laptop goes into standby or if I shut the laptop.  any suggestions
[02:17] <uncola> Znuff, I don't think freenas would be good for me because I need to run SABNZBD on it and I don't think it's easy to set up for freenas
[02:17] <avelldiroll> tripelb: you might have missed the "properties" part of the procedure: right clic on a video file > PROPERTIES > open with > select vlc
[02:17] <xrdodrx> Beloved_One, there's also dropbox and e-mailing stuff to yourself on gmail
[02:17] <Tweaky> is there any way to increase the amout of up-scroll cache kept in a terminal window?
[02:17] <Znuff> *wonders why do people still use newsgroups*
[02:17] <sofaking88> Hello everyone. I have a linux mint question. Is that acceptable here?
[02:17] <lee__> sure
[02:17] <Znuff> sofaking88, that depends, try to ask it first
[02:18] <bawn> hurstman54, does it work with headphones?
[02:18] <GeekyAdam> Tweaky: right-click in terminal, properties
[02:18] <hurstman54> no
[02:18] <macrophage001> Do any of you have any experience with thc-hydra?
[02:18] <IdleOne> !mintsupport | sofaking88
[02:18] <Beloved_One> ok ty xrdodrx its hard since i dont have an eternal hd
[02:18] <xrdodrx> sofaking88, the distros are pretty much the same. unless you have an issue with a specific UI element of linux mint, you should be able to be helped here
[02:18] <GeekyAdam> macrophage001: i do a little but no one here will help with it
[02:18] <IdleOne> Linux mint is not supported in this channel.
[02:18] <bawn> hurstman54, seems like a hardware failure, but i could be wrong, but i cannot help you further
[02:18] <Tweaky> GeekyAdam: i feel dumber now lol.. thanks
[02:18] <macrophage001> GeekyAdam: can you help me?
[02:18] <lee__> just ask the mint question
[02:19] <bawn> sofaking88, what's your question
[02:19] <kotu> Znuff: that's I was looking for :] thx
[02:19] <sofaking88> Stupid question actually - Can I update from 9 to 10 from a flash drive... I don't have any blank cds
[02:19] <lee__> yes you can
[02:19] <lee__> its called a live cd
[02:20] <lee__> i mean
[02:20] <lee__> live usb
[02:20] <bawn> you can do it without either i believe
[02:20] <sixam> had the random corription of files >512 MB on ext4 been fixed?
[02:20] <P2E> sofaking88: why not just use the internet?
[02:20] <SPooN> SPooN is now AWAY
[02:20] <Znuff> kotu, you can't move apps from one to another, btw, but it will help you control 2 or more computers with just one mouse and keyboard
[02:20] <lee__> im pretty sure mint has to be done with a clean install
[02:20] <Chris____> is this the right place for an installation question ?
[02:20] <lee__> sure chris
[02:20] <lee__> ask away
[02:20] <sofaking88> P2E: I don't want to sign up on any forums >.>
[02:20] <macrophage001> Do any of you know where I can find some help on this?
[02:20] <Chris____> ok, i bought this thinkpad X60
[02:20] <xrdodrx> !google | P2E
[02:21] <lee__> sokaking you can install it on a live usb
[02:21] <lee__> download a program called unetbootin
[02:21] <sofaking88> but uh... how about the package manager?
[02:21] <Chris____> and I had ubuntu 10.10 32 bit on it
[02:21] <Chris____> anyways, decided to upgrade to a SSD
[02:21] <lee__> no you cant upgrade mint from the package manager
[02:21] <lee__> you have to clean install
[02:21] <Beloved_One> wat u think about google os
[02:21] <Chris____> and well, not it just won't boot
[02:21] <IdleOne> lee__: take the mint support elsewhere please
[02:21] <Chris____> mint ?
[02:22] <lee__> hes just asking
[02:22] <IdleOne> lee__: and I told you it is not supported here
[02:22] <IdleOne> so you are offtopic.
[02:22] <lee__> well tell him that then
[02:22] <IdleOne> I did
[02:22] <lee__> okay sir
[02:22] <P2E> sofaking88: I was referring to the update manager in an already-installed situation.
[02:22] <P2E> xrdodrx: ^
[02:22] <IdleOne> you made yourself king and rule maker when you told him to ask anyway.
[02:23] <Znuff> IdleOne, and except you.. who's minding about supporting mint? even though it's based on ubuntu?
[02:23] <lee__> its based on ubuntu dude its almost exactly the same thing
[02:23] <IdleOne> Znuff: it is channel policy. Mint is NOT Ubuntu even though it is based on it.
[02:23] <xangua> Znuff lee__ just stick to the topic...... ¬¬
[02:23] <lee__> okay
[02:23] <lee__> so what is todays topic
[02:23] <Znuff> And Kubuntu is not ubuntu, right?
[02:23] <IdleOne> Ubuntu support as always
[02:24] <gogeta> Znuff: mint has there own irc for support
[02:24] <lee__> kubuntu is ubuntu
[02:24] <sofaking88> P2E: Update manager doesn't do anything :/
[02:24] <The_Tick> ok, so where does he get mint support?
[02:24] <IdleOne> !mintsupport
[02:24] <Znuff> And mint is ubuntu with another GUI ontop. Stop being assholes.
[02:24] <xrdodrx> lol@fragmentation of things that are almost exactly the same
[02:24] <IdleOne> Znuff: watch your language
[02:24] <Znuff> I give a fuck.
[02:24] <gogeta> Znuff: mint is built diffrent then ubuntu go look at the mint site
[02:25] <Tweaky> anyone know the argument for dir or ls to list all files in subdirectories too
[02:25] <lee__> no mint isnt built differently
[02:25] <lee__> its packaged differently
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> Mint != Ubuntu just like Fedora != RedHat
[02:25] <gogeta> lee__: same yea
[02:25] <The_Tick> ok, it doesn't matter guys
[02:25] <IdleOne> lee__: Please drop it. it is not supported.
[02:25] <The_Tick> they don't want you talking about mint in here
[02:25] <lee__> lol
[02:25] <lee__> alrighty
[02:25] <IdleOne> thank you.
[02:25] <lee__> yes sir!
[02:25] <mihai_> does anyone know what is the reason for slow loading webpages ? i noticed it happening after 3-4 hours of system uptime,pages like youtube take up to 3-5 mins to load or sometimes it just doesn`t load at all,even google.com takes 1-3 mins to load And i noticed everything going back to normal after i reboot,at least for another 3-4 hours. i`m using ubuntu 10.10
[02:26] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: i hopw that was to compare the diffrences
[02:26] <pragmaticenigma> yes
[02:26] <sixam> mihai_, something eats your cpu?
[02:26] <mihai_> no
[02:26] <lee__> have you tried a problem with your cable?
[02:26] <Chris____> anyways, is there any reason why ubuntu would install to a laptop regular HD but not a laptop SSD drive, the installer sees it and  all, it pretends to install, but then it doesn't boot
[02:26] <mihai_> sixam, most of the time is below 10-20%
[02:26] <pragmaticenigma> mihai_: Have you rebooted your router and modems lately?
[02:26] <lee__> you have a ssd on your comuter?
[02:27] <Chris____> laptop
[02:27] <lee__> how much is it
[02:27] <sixam> Chris____, define 'doesn't boot'
[02:27] <lee__> like gig
[02:27] <avelldiroll> mihai_: did you test with another browser ?
[02:27] <mihai_> it`s probably been 3 days since i last rebooted my router
[02:27] <mihai_> yes,tested with bout chrome and firefox
[02:27] <Chris____> I mean, I turn it on and it goes to a screen that just shows a dash and stays there
[02:27] <gogeta> mihai_: thats a good one i knoe there suggesting alot but sounds like some sort of networking isue
[02:27] <Chris____> forever
[02:27] <pragmaticenigma> mihai_: what is the make and model of your computer?
[02:27] <napster> The calender and the panel applet has a huge gap in between them. How to fix this problem apart from moving the applet to the top panel?
[02:27] <Chris____> lenovo X60 1706-5DU
[02:28] <mihai_> asus motherbord with intel d cpu
[02:28] <mihai_> gogeta, it works just fine after i reboot
[02:28] <gogeta> mihai_: it sounds like the driver is having problems coming back from being inactiv
[02:29] <pragmaticenigma> Have you recently installed any new applications mihai_?
[02:29] <mihai_> i see,so i should try installing a new driver for my network adapter ?
[02:29] <Skeletal> guy
[02:29] <mihai_> i just reinstalled ubuntu 2 days ago
[02:29] <gogeta> mihai_: well wifi can be buggy if its a lan its another problem
[02:29] <mihai_> it`s on lan
[02:29] <avelldiroll> mihai_: did you try to restart the network instead of rebooting ?
[02:30] <Skeletal> how can I do for SAVE mu current system in VMWARE ? like, for example, make a restore point.
[02:30] <mihai_> avelldiroll, no i didn`t,good idea :-)
[02:30] <gogeta> mihai_: cuple says of doing that
[02:30] <gogeta> ways
[02:30] <UnholyTerror> Skeletal, snapshot
[02:30] <pragmaticenigma> that really isn't going to change anything, restarting the networking is the same as rebooting
[02:30] <pragmaticenigma> just don't have to wait as long
[02:30] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: its to see if it speeds up
[02:30] <Skeletal> good man! but where's this option:?
[02:31] <lee__> hey guys i have a real question on graphic drivers and what not
[02:31] <Skeletal> I use vmware player
[02:31] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: and its not the same
[02:31] <mihai_> yeah but then i`ll be sure it`s something to do with my network adapter,right ?
[02:31] <pragmaticenigma> lee__:  just ask your question, don't ask to ask a question
[02:31] <lee__> yes sir!
[02:31] <UnholyTerror> Skeletal, in the preferences
[02:31] <gogeta> mihai_: well something in the network yea
[02:32] <lee__> well on my asus laptop i have the nvidia optimus technology and was wondering if nvidia optimus is supported by xserver
[02:32] <pragmaticenigma> mihai_: Do you run in any applications for BitTorrent or other p2p applications?
[02:32] <gogeta> mihai_: genrely a craling nic = network conflict
[02:32] <avelldiroll> mihai_: it might be your router having a memory leak or else ... did your router always behaved like this ? when/how did the problem appear ?
[02:32] <mihai_> ok,thanks ,i`ll try that and if it does fix it i`ll try installing a different driver
[02:32] <mihai_> yes i use vuze
[02:32] <The_Tick> ok, since nobody in that mint channel is answering
[02:32] <gogeta> mihai_: nic drivers all work fine
[02:32] <gogeta> mihai_: im thinking conflict
[02:32] <SPooN> SPooN is now BACK
[02:32] <mihai_> avelldiroll, no ,it didn`t
[02:32] <The_Tick> what exactly is the difference between ubuntu and mint?
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> lee__: you may have to install the proprietary drivers to enable those options... I haven't heard anything about that option yet
[02:33] <Skeletal> <UnholyTerror>  I can't find it. I went in FILE and PLAYER PREFERENCER, i can't find nothing there
[02:33] <gogeta> mihai_: just strange it starts hrs later
[02:33] <lee__> i know i install all drivers and what not
[02:33] <lee__> but
[02:33] <ubuntu4shane> what is the simplest virtual machine to use these days?
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> mihai_: try shutting down vuze and see if the problem improves
[02:33] <ubuntu4shane> vbox?
[02:33] <lee__> whenever i load my system back up
[02:33] <lee__> the screen is just black
[02:34] <mihai_> i haven`t started vuze since my last reboot
[02:34] <gogeta> ubuntu4shane: well virtulbox is free
[02:34] <pragmaticenigma> are you sure it's not running in the background
[02:34] <lee__> so im assuming theres some kind of conflict between intel and the nvidia
[02:34] <mihai_> i`ll keep it this way to test it
[02:34] <lee__> but i cant run my nvidia driver on ubuntu
[02:34] <pragmaticenigma> Do you have two GPUs in your machine lee__?
[02:34] <lee__> yes
[02:34] <lee__> intel and the nvidia
[02:34] <pragmaticenigma> Xserver doesn't support dual GPUs
[02:34] <gogeta> mihai_: normaly a nic well slow to being slow if 2 pcs are rying to use the same subnet or ip
[02:34] <ubuntu4shane> gogeta, I guess that is as simple as any of them, I'm not interested in usb and all that stuff, just need to test a few things
[02:35] <pragmaticenigma> It will pick one or the other, it's currently defaulting to your Intel, but trying to use the Nvidia drivers
[02:35] <Skeletal> Lee_   can you know how run your nvia drive?
[02:35] <lee__> yes
[02:35] <lee__> i know how to run it
[02:35] <gogeta> ubuntu4shane: well the one in the repos does not have usb not one you dl from orcal has usb both install fine
[02:35] <lee__> it just turns to a black screen when i reboot it
[02:35] <mihai_> i only have my desktop and notebook connected to this router and i haven`t used my notebook in 2 days or so
[02:35] <ubuntu4shane> gogeta, does the repo version access web?
[02:36] <lee__> when i install the nvidia drivers my whole system doesnt work
[02:36] <pragmaticenigma> mihai_: Are you sure Vuze is not automatically loading and running in the background?
[02:36] <gogeta> mihai_: has the connecting been stable for those 2 days
[02:36] <Sonja> how do i tell ubuntu to always mount certain network drives when possible?
[02:36] <gogeta> ubuntu4shane: yes only lacks usb support
[02:36] <sloni> is there a way to restore for a new session each time a user logs in. i want to reset all changes my kid does in his login each time logs off, so he starts clean. i'm tired to hunt deleted icons and menu items :)
[02:36] <mihai_> no,i`m having these problems every 3-4 hours
[02:36] <ubuntu4shane> gogeta, ok, thanks!  that will meet what I'm looking for thanks!
[02:36] <mihai_> pragmaticenigma, gonna check the processes in a sec
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> lee__: It's likely it's trying to use the Nvidia drivers on the intel chip and they aren't compatible.. you might need to check and find out if you can disable the intel somehow in BIOS
[02:37] <mihai_> vuze isn`t running atm
[02:37] <lee__> the only thing from the bios that i can do
[02:37] <lee__> is stop the intel virtualization
[02:37] <lee__> but that doesnt affect the actual chip
[02:38] <pragmaticenigma> what is the make and model of your computer lee__?
[02:38] <gogeta> mihai_: thats a good one nic slowing but only after time has passed normal a conflict is visable immadly
[02:38] <thedangler> anyone have simple instructions on how to get WUSB100-rm wireless stick to work :)
[02:38] <mihai_> yeah,i was just thinking about that,it`s probably some application i`ve been using and not noticing it
[02:38] <lee__> its a Asus k52j series, intel I5 processor, has a nvidia geforce 310m cuda and intel graphics
[02:39] <mihai_> gonna pay more attention and i`ll hopefully find out what`s causing it
[02:39] <napster> The calender and the panel applet has a huge gap in between them. How to fix this problem apart from moving the applet to the top panel?
[02:40] <mihai_> oh,i`ve just remembered,i`ve been playing wc3 with a friend every now and then using garena if any of you is familiar with it,i think that could be the source of the problem
[02:40] <UnholyTerror> Skeletal, search up snapshots in the HELP menu... looks like you have to enable it during VM creation.
[02:40] <gogeta> mihai_: worth a try
[02:41] <dark3lf> hello, I want to know my public ip adress from terminal, is it possible ?
[02:41] <pragmaticenigma> lee__: from the few articles I just googled, it looks like you cannot enable the nvidia graphics chip
[02:41] <pragmaticenigma> your stuck with the intel chip
[02:41] <gogeta> paranoidi: a 310gtx should have closed drivers for linux
[02:41] <lee__> i know thats what i gathered from it too. lol
[02:41] <lee__> but thank you anyways
[02:41] <lee__> its not the drivers
[02:41] <lee__> thats the problem
[02:41] <lee__> its the conflict
[02:41] <gogeta> lee__: your 310 cuda needs linux drivers?
[02:41] <mihai_> thanks for the help,i`ll test a bit to see what triggers it ,good night :-)
[02:42] <lee__> no i installed the drivers
[02:42] <pragmaticenigma> If Ubuntu rumors and promises are true, when they switch to Wayland you won't have that issue
[02:42] <lee__> from the proprietary
[02:42] <lee__> and i tried
[02:42] <lee__> the actual
[02:42] <lee__> nvidia ones from their site
[02:42] <FloodBot1> lee__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:42] <gogeta> lee__: so whats up with the card?
[02:42] <bawn> whats wayland pragmaticenigma
[02:43] <pragmaticenigma> dark3lf: it is possible... I'm not sure how at the moment
[02:43] <lee__> i have intel graphics and i also have a nvidia card. when i try to install my nvidia drivers it works good but when i reboot the system the screen turns black when it goes to load the log-in
[02:43] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: wayland is an alternative to Xorg
[02:43] <Irok> I'm trying to solve a problem with gnome-mplayer and some posts say try SVN of gnome-mplayer
[02:43] <bawn> pragmaticenigma, is it better?
[02:43] <gogeta> lee__: maybe you have to turn off the intel from bios
[02:43] <Irok> I'm trying to solve a problem with gnome-mplayer and some posts say "try SVN of gnome-mplayer". What does that mean?
[02:43] <lee__> i cant though. there isnt an option
[02:44] <pragmaticenigma> bawn: It's supposed to be lighter weight and allow better compatibility with 3d graphics, also it will solve lee__'s issue
[02:44] <gogeta> lee__: option 2 would be genrating a xorg.conf and manuly tell it to use the nivida
[02:44] <Beloved_One> wat is the huge difference between gde and kde
[02:44] <lee__> i did that option also lol
[02:45] <lee__> it didnt do anything. i aslo edited the edid
[02:45] <pragmaticenigma> lee__: the only other option I can think of is you might have to generate an xorg.conf file and specifically find a way to set it up to use the Nvidia full time from there
[02:45] <pragmaticenigma> Beloved_One: There is no such thing as gde
[02:45] <gogeta> paranoidi: yep said he tryed that to
[02:45] <lee__> ill just wait for wayland
[02:45] <Beloved_One> opps typo
[02:45] <lee__> i heard they have compatability
[02:45] <UnholyTerror> Skeletal, but you could always just make a copy of the folder/files too.
[02:46] <lee__> and i already tried to manually edit the xorg
[02:46] <lee__> didnt do much
[02:46] <Gallaeaho> So I'm kinda curious now.
[02:46] <Gallaeaho> Who made the installer for 10.10 so complicated?
[02:46] <lee__> its not
[02:47] <pragmaticenigma> how is it complicated Gallaeaho?
[02:47] <thedangler> is there something in ubuntu to share the internet trhough the ethernet ? like on mac?
[02:47] <Gallaeaho> I'm running a multipartition setup and I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 to one of the partitions
[02:47] <gogeta> lee__: nivida has a fix for your bug
[02:48] <gogeta> lee__: guess the latest drivers from them work
[02:48] <pragmaticenigma> gogeta: it helps if you can post a link for lee__ to follow
[02:48] <Gallaeaho> Normally I'd just click "Install alongside operating system", select my partition and then tell it to use the whole partition instead of installing alongside the other OS
[02:48] <Gallaeaho> But now I don't even get that
[02:48] <lee__> im pretty sure i tried that one but show me the link and ill see it
[02:48] <Gallaeaho> It thinks that my whole drive is one partition
[02:48] <aeMaeth> thedangler, there should be a "share this with other computers" or something similar in your network settings, also there is a ubuntu page for network bridging afaik
[02:48] <gogeta> lee__: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/660596
[02:49] <gogeta> lee__: looks like you need to add nomode set to grub
[02:49] <sdwrage> Hey all,
[02:49] <sdwrage> I moved my system from Windows 7 to Ubuntu and everything works perfectly it seems except the touchpad... this does not work at all. It is an electro-static multi-touch pad for the Sony Vaio VPCEB33FM/BJ Model.
[02:49] <sdwrage> I have the latest version of Ubuntu
[02:50] <pragmaticenigma> sdwrage: it is possible that your hardware is too new and drivers haven't been developed yet
[02:50] <gogeta> lee__: the post rho_t has
[02:51] <lee__> how do you do that
[02:51] <Gallaeaho> Also, my hardware is an Acer Aspire 5810TZ. I'm 64 bit capable but I'm going to install a 32 bit OS. The only reason in doing so is that Adobe Flash does not have a 64-biit driver for its software.
[02:51] <gogeta> lee__: his post says how
[02:51] <sdwrage> pragmaticenigma, how long does it usually take?
[02:51] <Gallaeaho> Can anyone confirm whether this is still the case?
[02:52] <The_Tick> Gallaeaho: you're wrong
[02:52] <The_Tick> there's a beta flash .so
[02:52] <The_Tick> I just installed it yesterday
[02:52] <pragmaticenigma> it takes as long as necassary to reverse engineer the drivers needed or for the maker of the touchpad to release their own drivers
[02:52] <Gallaeaho> The_Tick, interesting
[02:52] <lee__> well i already tried this by editing the grub
[02:52] <lee__> it didnt work
[02:52] <lee__> but thank you
[02:52] <gogeta> lee__: thers more to it
[02:53] <gogeta> lee__: blakclisting nevu edting the corg.cong
[02:53] <lee__> i know it says how to add your customedid to it
[02:53] <lee__> i did the blacklisting
[02:53] <Gallaeaho> One last question. the DVD Drive in this is a TSSTCorp CDDVDW TS-U633A, are there still mount issues with this drive in 10.10 or have they been corrected?
[02:53] <gogeta> xrrg
[02:53] <gogeta> xorg
[02:53] <gogeta> lee__: still bad effect hua
[02:53] <lee__> yes sir lol
[02:54] <lee__> i edited the grub blacklisted, noveau, set to nomodeset and all that jazz
[02:54] <lee__> i just ended up with one hell of a display after that
[02:55] <lee__> i also have one more question
[02:55] <gogeta> lee__: try it without nomodeset then
[02:55] <Kevin_> hey im stuck
[02:55] <Kevin_> i just installed ubuntu 10.10 from the disk
[02:55] <Kevin_> when i boot up it says something like cannot read from disk
[02:56] <Kevin_> and grub rescue comes up
[02:56] <lee__> maybe it got written wrong to the cd
[02:56] <pragmaticenigma> Kevin_: were you trying to do a dual boot system?
[02:56] <Kevin_> no
[02:56] <Gallaeaho> Be right back.
[02:56] <Kevin_> its a new fresh hdd
[02:56] <gogeta> lee__: defently a new bug being people say it works on lucid
[02:56] <DhyE> kevin : have you tried repair with grub??
[02:57] <clutch_> I seriously need help. I have my college essay on Ubuntu but I can't access it.
[02:57] <Kevin_> no not yet
[02:57] <lee__> i know, everyone one lucid says it works now. but funny thing is is that i tried it with lucid and it still didnt work
[02:57] <clutch_> Whenever I try and boot it either hangs at the boot screen.
[02:57] <lee__> i think it has to do with the conflicting intel and nvidia
[02:57] <clutch_> Then it goes into cli
[02:57] <DhyE> kevin ; try repair with rescue cd then repair the grub with grub option
[02:57] <Kevin_> ok
[02:57] <Kevin_> wait
[02:57] <Kevin_> i dont have a rescue cd :S
[02:58] <zakwilson> clutch_: boot from the install disk. You'll be able to access the contents of the hard drive(s)
[02:58] <clutch_> Thanks.
[02:58] <gogeta> lee__: whats is it one of those laptops that uses both
[02:58] <clutch_> Will I be able to fix the partition from there?
[02:58] <lee__> yes
[02:58] <DhyE> kevin ; may u have a fedora instalatuon dvd ?? from there u can repair the grub
[02:58] <lee__> i wasnt answering you clutch
[02:58] <Sabri> How do I see all the dependencies of a package?
[02:58] <Kevin_> no i only have the ubuntu istalation cd
[02:59] <lee__> umm yeah my computer has the nvidia optimus technology so it has both
[02:59] <gogeta> lee__: umm it should defult to the intel then and use the nivida on demand
[02:59] <Kevin_> instalation*
[02:59] <lee__> yes it should, and it is with the intel part at least.
[02:59] <lee__> i have intel graphics just cant use nvidia
[02:59] <gogeta> lee__: it does not switch?
[02:59] <lee__> no
[03:00] <pragmaticenigma> gogeta: Xorg doesn't support automatic switching yet
[03:00] <pragmaticenigma> you have to restart X in order to switch GPUs
[03:00] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: yea but his black screens on boot
[03:01] <DhyE> kevin : an ubuntu live cd?
[03:01] <lee__> yes it blacks on boot
[03:01] <gogeta> lee__: does it blacksceen after driver install or after you try to force the nivida
[03:01] <lee__> after i install nvidia
[03:02] <lee__> well its not right after
[03:02] <lee__> its after i do the restart to complete upgrade
[03:02] <gogeta> lee__: we may be going backwords
[03:02] <lee__> yes a little
[03:02] <lee__> tis alright
[03:02] <Secubun> Hello everyone! Do any of you know if Ubuntu 10.10 uses Selinux or AppArmor ? :)
[03:02] <gogeta> lee__: force intel at boot then switch to nivida after
[03:02] <Kevin_> sorry yes a ubuntu live cd
[03:02] <lee__> how would one go about doing that
[03:02] <fryguy> Secubun: apparmor
[03:03] <DhyE> kevin : visit this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ..
[03:03] <Secubun> fryguy: is there an GUI tool out for apparmor like policycoreutils for selinux?
[03:03] <fryguy> Secubun: probably
[03:03] <UnholyTerror> apparmore
[03:03] <Kevin_> but i havent installed windows ...
[03:04] <gogeta> lee__: this might be helpfull
[03:04] <DhyE> kevin : yup i know.. but in your case, the grub was failed..try install a new grub
[03:04] <gogeta> lee__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=923406
[03:04] <Kevin_> o ok
[03:05] <gogeta> lee__: looks like you have totell grub what card to use
[03:05] <lee__> is there a way to use wayland? is wayland stable enough, or even ready for use?
[03:06] <gogeta> lee__: dunno
[03:06] <pragmaticenigma> I wouldn't attempt to install wayland on your own
[03:06] <Gallaeaho> Ok, so I've kinda figured out what I have to do. Do I just have to select the partition and select Install Now, or do I need to click Change and select ext4 fs
[03:07] <gogeta> lee__: seems no its still early
[03:07] <lee__> why would mark even say ubuntu will be using wayland in the future than?
[03:07] <lee__> if its not even ready
[03:07] <gogeta> lee__: from that fourm psot ou make 2 working configs and switch them eyther threw grub or a script
[03:07] <gogeta> you
[03:07] <jellow> everything is still built for Xorg anyway
[03:08] <gogeta> jellow: it will still use xorg for a long time
[03:08] <gogeta> jellow: before its totaly on its own
[03:08] <pragmaticenigma> Ubuntu devs are putting effort to help the wayland team get their product ready... but's it's going to be awhile before it's mainstream ready
[03:08] <sagaci> !wayland
[03:09] <Jmcver> I am having trouble getting the Internet Connection Sharing to work between my computers, can anyone help?
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> don't think that one exists sagaci
[03:09] <pragmaticenigma> !wayland | sagaci
[03:09] <lee__> whats your guys take on ubuntu switching to unity?
[03:10] <gogeta> lee__: i dont like th interface
[03:10] <pragmaticenigma> Indifferent
[03:10] <schwartzRN> join #techno
[03:10] <uncola> I tried out ubuntu netbook remix with unity.. on an atom nettop..  and I really hated it
[03:10] <gogeta> lee__: at that point threy mine as well dump gnome
[03:10] <uncola> it made me miss gnome.. did not seem fast at all.. and that was on an atom 1.6GHz with 2 gigs of ram
[03:10] <lee__> well technically it still is gnome
[03:10] <pragmaticenigma> unity for netbooks versus the desktop are supposedly going to look very different
[03:11] <gogeta> lee__: unity is made form there hate of gnome shell
[03:11] <pragmaticenigma> Gnome is slow and clunky
[03:11] <gogeta> paranoidi: yea i use lxde these days
[03:11] <lee__> if the gnome shell had customizable panels i think it would be nice
[03:11] <Rash--> is there anyway to change ownership of a folder via livecd?
[03:12] <pragmaticenigma> Rash--: there is a way, but it's not recommended... it's better if you can do it from within the installed system on the computer
[03:12] <pragmaticenigma> what folder are you trying to change the ownership of?
[03:12] <misbach_> huuuuuy ubuntu users
[03:12] <Rash--> pragmaticenigma -- issue is, the HD that had my MBR (was dual boot) died and I can't get the hard drive with ubuntu to boot
[03:13] <Jmcver> #ICS
[03:13] <Rash--> and I am trying to get my files on to a new PC I bought
[03:13] <pragmaticenigma> The live CD should be able to read the files from the drive to another drive
[03:13] <gogeta> Rash--: then you install grub to the new hdd
[03:13] <Rash--> pragmaticenigma it will read them, but the files are in my old home folder
[03:14] <Rash--> which is protected, so I can't actually rw the files
[03:14] <lee__> is the linux mint channel mintirc?
[03:14] <pragmaticenigma> But you should be able to read the files, yes?
[03:14] <Rash--> Nope
[03:14] <gogeta> Rash--: wel you can move the files read only
[03:14] <pragmaticenigma> !mint | lee
[03:14] <ubuntu4shane> !mint | lee__
[03:14] <gogeta> Rash--: to your new hdd
[03:14] <lee__> its !mint?
[03:14] <meoblast001> hi
[03:15] <Rash--> every folder except MP3/Pictures/Documents are coming up with the you are not the owner error
[03:15] <pragmaticenigma> once they are copied to your new system you can chown to change the ownership
[03:15] <meoblast001> what's the name of the program that builds USB flash driver installers?
[03:15] <meoblast001> of Ubuntu
[03:15] <gogeta> Rash--: still should be able to copy past them
[03:15] <xangua> !unetbootin | meoblast001 works better for me
[03:16] <pragmaticenigma> lee__ the !mint is a way to get the ubottu to respond with pre-made messages
[03:16] <Gallaeaho> alright, since apparently now i have to specify all my partitions manually just so i can use one partition
[03:16] <Rash--> gogeta Im going to try that no, stand by... let me see if I can copy/paste them onto a network share
[03:16] <gogeta> Rash--: or you can from the term cd into the home dir do sudo cp * /media/yournewhdd
[03:16] <lee__> so do you know the name of it?
[03:16] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, System -> Administration -> Startup Disk Creator
[03:16] <Gallaeaho> what is a recommended size for swap space
[03:16] <meoblast001> thanks
[03:16] <Kevin_> k i just re installed ubuntu but when i boot up i get the grub screan
[03:16] <meoblast001> ubuntu4shane: oh, sorry, i probably should have mentioned it was not preinstalled as i switched to Kubuntu
[03:16] <misbach_> swap= 1gb
[03:16] <Kevin_> how do i boot in the the GUI?
[03:16] <pragmaticenigma> ubottu just told you were to find the mint support group
[03:17] <pragmaticenigma> where*
[03:17] <gogeta> Rash--: your network share will need to be rw
[03:17] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, in that case look for: usb-creator-gtk
[03:17] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, that is the actual commandline to start the application
[03:18] <meoblast001> hm, i don't think Unetbootin is what i want
[03:18] <meoblast001> ah, usb-creator-gtk, thanks
[03:18] <gogeta> meoblast001: they do the same thing but whatever you like\
[03:18] <misbach_> indonesia indonesia indonesia indonesia indonesia indonesia
[03:18] <pragmaticenigma> meoblast001: unetbootin is a frontend for usb-creator
[03:18] <tzanger> Good evening... where do I start debugging a suspend problem with 10.10? nothing at all of interest appears in pm-suspend.log, and suspend worked GREAT with 9.04, 9.10 and 10.04.
[03:18] <meoblast001> ah
[03:19] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: no its a diffrent program
[03:19] <gogeta> pragmaticenigma: but it does the same thing
[03:19] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, they are different
[03:19] <Kevin_> im so confused :S
[03:19] <pragmaticenigma> Kevin_: boot issues are hard to solve in chat
[03:19] <Rash--> gogeta comes back, The folder April cannot be handled because you do not have permission to read it
[03:19] <Kevin_> y?
[03:20] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, the usb-creator is a little more ubuntu friendly, and unetbootin would create a usb startup disk for about anything you throw at it
[03:20] <gogeta> Rash--: then you can use a term cd to the home dir then do sudo cp * /yournetworkshare
[03:20] <ubuntu4shane> meoblast001, whereas usb-creator assumes you are making a Ubunut usb stick
[03:20] <pragmaticenigma> Kevin_: The solution to your problem is to start the installtion process again
[03:20] <hanasaki> what is the current flavor of choice for vpn software? free/opensource and needs to work with windows and mac too
[03:20] <gogeta> Rash--: whatever your network share mount point is
[03:20] <Kevin_> i did 2 times
[03:21] <gogeta> Rash--: and the folder you whant to store everything
[03:21] <pragmaticenigma> are you using the default settings in each prompt?
[03:21] <gogeta> Rash--: eg sudo cp * /mshome/stored
[03:21] <dli> how to create ubuntu liveUSB from windows?
[03:21] <pragmaticenigma> Kevin_: Are you following the prompts with defaults during the installation?
[03:22] <gogeta> Rash--: just make shure you in the home dir when you use * or you will copy the entire fs
[03:22] <Kevin_> ya
[03:22] <xangua> try unetbootin dli
[03:22] <crimeboy> anyone know if have someway to know when (date) occurring the instalation of disto?
[03:22] <pragmaticenigma> dli: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811397
[03:22] <dli> xangua, pragmaticenigma thanks
[03:23] <sukuri> I'm running a custom distro of Ubuntu 10.04 specifically designed to handle intel's gma500 graphics card. When I boot my computer the first time, everything runs well. When I finish a long list of updates, the regular progress bar goes across the screen, then the screen begins to flash, showing the console-login screen a couple of times. When I put my computer in standby and bring it out of it, I can then use the console mode.
[03:23] <sukuri> Any thoughts on how to fix my current issue?
[03:23] <pragmaticenigma> sukuri: We can only really support the generally available installation CDs
[03:24] <pragmaticenigma> Custom spins, you may need to find the person who made it and get help from them
[03:24] <sukuri> pragmaticenigma: if it weren´t a custom install, what would you say? Al that was supposedly changed was that they added gma500 support
[03:24] <crimeboy> sukuri: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:25] <pragmaticenigma> I would be left to believe that an update broke a setting or package provided by sukuri
[03:25] <mouse> I have a question.  If 10.04 is lts then why would I want to use 10.10 that is NOT lts?
[03:25] <crimeboy> mouse: u dont
[03:25] <sukuri> pragmaticenigma: is there a systematic way of trying to find out which package broke the build that does not involve me formatting the device over and over again?
[03:25] <moho> what's a good open source software for ripping dvd's then burning them?????
[03:25] <pragmaticenigma> 10.04 means that ubuntu will be supported and updates provided for long term, non-lts editions are supported for one year from realse
[03:26] <avelldiroll> mouse: in order to have more recent packages
[03:26] <ubuntu4shane> mouse, because you gotta have the latest greatest stuff?
[03:26] <pragmaticenigma> sukuri: I'm not aware of any methods to roll back updates, I know it's possible
[03:26] <ubuntu4shane> mouse, that is kind of an opinion question, really depends on what you want.
[03:26] <Gallaeaho> Alright, I've (hopefully) done these partitions right so I've given 155GB to Ubuntu and the other 1GB of the 156GB partition to swap
[03:26] <misbach_> How to create triple boot
[03:26] <pragmaticenigma> moho: We don't support piracy
[03:27] <misbach_> what was that
[03:27] <misbach_> d
[03:27] <achuinard> hey yall
[03:27] <josh1> how do I write a script or something to automate shutting down the computer via this command "sudo shutdown -P 30"
[03:27] <misbach_> hey
[03:27] <achuinard> i'm running IntelliJ (java ide), a java dev server from command line, along with chrome, rhythmbox, and a few others
[03:27]  * hashashin nas
[03:27] <mouse> Okay then my next question is how do I get the update manager to stop asking me if I want to upgrade to 10.10?
[03:27] <moho> what's a good open source software for ripping dvd's then burning them?????
[03:27] <achuinard> but things seem to start running slow - i have a 6-core amd and 4gb of ddr3 memory.  can anyone help me troubleshoot why my system starts lagging?
[03:27] <ubuntu4shane> misbach_, with grub2, I think that is much easier now days.
[03:27] <Gallaeaho> moho: Why do you keep asking
[03:28] <achuinard> I'm on ubuntu 10.04 64
[03:28] <pragmaticenigma> moho: No one here is going to answer that question
[03:28] <sukuri> crimeboy: didn´t fix
[03:28] <moho> only asked 2 times gallaeaho
[03:28] <Gallaeaho> moho: But the problem is that your question is asking us to tell you how to commit acts of piracy
[03:28] <xueya> ni men wei shen me bu xue hanyu
[03:29] <mouse> achuinard, One quick way is to open the cpu monitor and see what's using up most of the resources.
[03:29] <uncola> acts of piracy!?
[03:29] <achuinard> mouse, I notice at the top my CPU monitor gets a more blue, less apparent line
[03:29] <moho> o did not know that
[03:29] <Gallaeaho> uncola: moho wants to know about DVD ripping software that will A) rip a DVD and B) create a copy
[03:29] <Gallaeaho> of said DVD
[03:29] <achuinard> mouse, that spikes above the normal blue activity line
[03:29] <Gallaeaho> moho, may I ask what kind of DVD
[03:30] <Gallaeaho> You want to rip
[03:30] <uncola> Gallaeaho, what if he wants to rip his cousins home video dvd and make a copy for himself?
[03:30] <uncola> it could be totally legit
[03:30] <Gallaeaho> uncola, that's why I just asked that question
[03:30] <Gallaeaho> :p
[03:30] <mouse> achuinard, and you want to know what's using up so much of the cpu right?
[03:30] <Tort> Can someone link me to a good howto for ssh?
[03:30] <achuinard> mouse, I don't think it's the CPU, it seems more memory related. Like all these Java processes are slowing things down.
[03:30] <pragmaticenigma> what is the default burning program in ubuntu?
[03:31] <ubuntu4shane> tort across lan, or across www?
[03:31] <sagaci> pragmaticenigma: brasero
[03:31] <pragmaticenigma> thanks sagaci
[03:31] <moho> trying to may only my one legal backup copy
[03:31] <achuinard> mouse, java in htop is using 1755M under Virt, 793M under Res, 11008 under CPU, and Mem% is 20%
[03:31] <Tort> perhaps something that covers both
[03:31] <Tort> or just both..
[03:31] <pragmaticenigma> moho: You can use brasero or k3b to make copies of non-copyrighted disks
[03:31] <achuinard> sorry, 11008 is under SHR
[03:31] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, across lan is super simple, install openssh  and you are good to go
[03:31] <moho> you can
[03:31] <pragmaticenigma> moho: there is no such thing as a legal backup copy
[03:32] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, I use it all the time on lan
[03:32] <mouse> achuinard, Oh I run 10.04 amd64 too and sometimes I have to kill java manually.  It's usually minecraft related.
[03:32] <joey_> how do i share my internet connection with my windows xp computer?
[03:32] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: I was under the impression that you had to have a client installed on the second machine though?
[03:32] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, after that, on both machines, you can ssh user@ipaddress
[03:32] <Kevin`> pragmaticenigma: you have to draw a line somewhere between right and legal
[03:32] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, I'm 95% sure it is just openssh, but let me check
[03:32] <avelldiroll> mouse: system>administration>software sources>updates>Release upgrade -> Long term support releases only
[03:32] <Gallaeaho> it depends on what he needs to make a "backup copy" of
[03:32] <achuinard> There are some params on java like -Xms128m, -Xmx1024m, -XX:MaxPermSize=250m.  Is it possible I can increase these?
[03:32] <pragmaticenigma> moho: under the DMCA it's illegal for anyone to tell another person how to circumvent encryption technology
[03:33] <mouse> avelldiroll, Ah thank you.
[03:33] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: Maybe it only changes if you are ssh'ing into a machine with Windows?
[03:33] <achuinard> I'm thinking that's not enough memory for Java since I'm running a dev server plus an IDE
[03:33] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, ohh, right, I only work with Linux boxes, very simple
[03:33] <moho> ok,i hear you
[03:33] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: okay that's fine, what about over www?
[03:33] <Kevin`> Tort: windows doesn't normally have an ssh server
[03:34] <mouse> avelldiroll, Is that going to prevent other updates from happening or just remove the upgrade to 10.10 option?
[03:34] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, never done that over www, that is a different ball game, because I assume you are going to need router configurations, and port forwarding etc.  gets complex
[03:34] <JabberWalkie> I think you can set up an ssh server on windows using cygwin
[03:34] <Kevin`> Tort: if you are doing it over the internet I recommend using dns so you don't have to remember the ip
[03:34] <JabberWalkie> infact, I have done it before
[03:34] <ubuntu4shane> Tort on the other hand I have ssh access into my server, but they are a server. :)
[03:35] <avelldiroll> mouse: only the 10.10 option ... updates for 10.04 will keep on coming
[03:35] <pragmaticenigma> I know there is a way to setup SSH on windows without requiring Cygwin
[03:35] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, this is a little dated, but https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html  should be fine
[03:35] <pragmaticenigma> just can't recall the name of the program here
[03:35] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: alright I'll check that out. Thanks
[03:35] <mouse> avelldiroll, Okay thank you.
[03:35] <JabberWalkie> is there a way to get updates to install automatically? It always keeps bugging me so I can press ok....
[03:36] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, I don't think you have to do all the configuration, just the two install commands at the top
[03:36] <Kevin`> JabberWalkie: yes. it's an option when installing, but i'm sure you can change it after
[03:36] <loltoad> hey, when i use cat bootsec.bin > /dev/sdb, sometimes after I eject the flashdrive, the datas not on it
[03:37] <Kevin`> Tort: the client is available by default on a normal ubuntu or mac install
[03:37] <pragmaticenigma> JabberWalkie: it's smarter to not let it auto update... because if an update breaks something you may lose your system
[03:37] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, that being said there are all kinds of security additions that you can configure if you are paranoid, I did those for several years, and decided ahh, don't really live in a dangerous area. :)
[03:37] <blackplague1347> I installed a game with Wine and PlayOnLinux (the Sims 3), anyone know where it is? I need access to the \BIN\ folder.
[03:37] <pragmaticenigma> JabberWalkie: there is a way to have it download the updates then prompt you to install them
[03:37] <JabberWalkie> i mean just security updates
[03:37] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: what do most people use ssh for? I know what it does but I haven't heard of a practical use outside of system administration
[03:37] <Gallaeaho> blackplague1347: it would be under ~\.c_drive\
[03:38] <Gallaeaho> I think that's how it goes for WINE
[03:38] <JabberWalkie> nm, ill google
[03:38] <avelldiroll> mouse: but updates for a version of ubuntu only fixes bugs, if you want new versions of softwares (with new features ... ) you will need to upgrade to the next ubuntu version (i.e. 10.10)
[03:38] <jellow> blackplague1347: int in the /home/USER/.playonlinux
[03:38] <pragmaticenigma> JabberWalkie: I'm not sure there is a way to only auto update security fixes
[03:38] <bastidrazor> Gallaeaho: your \ should be /
[03:38] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, hmm, system admin. :)  I use it a lot to copy files from my cpu to the laptop
[03:38] <pragmaticenigma> I've never really looked into it
[03:38] <Gallaeaho> er, my mistake bastidrazor
[03:38] <Gallaeaho> Mind's in /reverse/ tonight... Haha.
[03:38] <bastidrazor> Gallaeaho: an easy one to do. :)
[03:38] <blackplague1347> Okay, I'll check both of those places.
[03:38] <pragmaticenigma> Gallaeaho: is in windows land tonight is more like it
[03:39] <Gallaeaho> Yes
[03:39] <ubuntu4shane> Tort, mostly system admin, update a box I'm not setting at, I access my pc from laptop a lot for files, just laziness.
[03:39] <Gallaeaho> Anyways, this installer is finishing up
[03:39] <Gallaeaho> I'm praying that I didn't mess up anything
[03:39] <pragmaticenigma> okay friends... time for me to hit the sheets
[03:39] <Tort> ubuntu4shane: cool, I'm really lazy :P
[03:39] <Gallaeaho> I'd like to KEEP the XP install intact
[03:39] <moho> so then caan somone pm me  a link to a page that has that info. rember to pm and not in open room
[03:40] <Gallaeaho> moho, Brasero should be on your system already
[03:40] <Gallaeaho> Applications -> Sounds & Video -> Brasero Disc Burner
[03:40] <blackplague1347> How do I address a message to a specific user in Xchat?
[03:40] <Gallaeaho> prefix with /msg
[03:40] <blackplague1347> I'm new to IRC, I'm afraid.
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> er
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> try /query User
[03:41] <Kevin`> blackplague1347: /q or /query name
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> and in the new window that pops up
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> just type the message.
[03:41] <pragmaticenigma> start the line with /msg followed by the users name
[03:41] <pragmaticenigma> the /q may upset some people
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> that works, but for added assurance use /query
[03:41] <ubuntu4shane> Blackguard, do you mean private message, or just in general?
[03:41] <ubuntu4shane> Blackguard, opps, wrong nick. :)  sorry to wake you
[03:41] <Gallaeaho> Alright, so I have one final question
[03:42] <Gallaeaho> The addition of the "Retrieve updates from the internet" feature is genius
[03:42] <ubuntu4shane> blackplague1347, do you mean for private  message or just in general?
[03:42] <MrGoodkat> hey guys
[03:42] <Gallaeaho> But why, after doing that and installing the system, do I get plagued with 100 more updates on the first reboot
[03:42] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, that is a statement. :)
[03:42] <blackplague1347> Like that thing you guys are doing which makes your messages appear as red on my screen
[03:42] <Gallaeaho> Oh
[03:42] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, there have probably been that many fixes to packages since the release.
[03:42] <Gallaeaho> that's called a highlight
[03:42] <MrGoodkat> im currently on 10.10 and whenever i toggle scim to "Off" the windows showing the chinese characters dont disappear, they just become unclickable
[03:43] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: I wouldn't worry about it too much, in any case there is only ONE pass of updates when you run it, and 0 or 1 reboots
[03:43] <Gallaeaho> A highlight occurs when someone mentions your name in chat
[03:43] <MrGoodkat> but are still visible, as if the screen doesnt refresh or smth
[03:43] <ubuntu4shane> blackplague1347, type the first few letters of my name and hit tab, it should complete my name, so you don't have to type it all
[03:43] <Gallaeaho> alright
[03:43] <Gallaeaho> rebooting HOPEFULLY into a functioning laptop install of Ubuntu 10.10
[03:44] <ubuntu4shane> blackplague1347, or type my entire nickname if it is easier, either way it will show red on my screen
[03:44] <blackplague1347> ubuntu4shane, so it's just like the terminal in that sense.
[03:44] <ubuntu4shane> blackplague1347, there ya go!  it is best if someone answers your question to respond to them with that, otherwise they may not see it.
[03:44] <blackplague1347> what about if i put your name in the middle of the sentence, ubuntu4shane ?
[03:45] <ubuntu4shane> it is the same in the middle or at the end blackplague1347
[03:45] <blackplague1347> ubuntu4shane, Awesome. Thanks.
[03:45] <ubuntu4shane> I guess most put it first out of habbit blackplague1347
[03:45] <ubuntu4shane> blackplague1347, no problem
[03:46] <blackplague1347> jellow, Thanks for telling me where to find the BIN folder for my game.
[03:46] <Gallaeaho> God damnit...
[03:46] <ubuntu4shane> ok, it is bed time, nite all
[03:47] <Gallaeaho> I broke my god damn XP install somehow
[03:47] <Gallaeaho> It's seeing WINDOWS 7, the OS that I _JUST ERASED_
[03:47] <ubuntu4shane> !language | Gallaeaho
[03:47] <moho> so then caan somone pm me  a link to a page that has that info. rember to pm and not in open room
[03:47] <Gallaeaho> ubuntu4shane: My apologies
[03:47] <Gallaeaho> I was just trying to avoid this mishap and somehow it still happened
[03:48] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, I know it is frustrating, did you try to boot it?  perhaps it just mis-named it?
[03:48] <Gallaeaho> I formatted the right partition, but grub didn't detect XP
[03:48] <Gallaeaho> It's giving me Windows 7 Bootloader, not XP
[03:48] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, don't fret it too bad, XP is still there, just a matter of getting grub to pick it up
[03:49] <moho> help
[03:49] <Gallaeaho> Hm, yeah ubuntu4shane...
[03:50] <Gallaeaho> I really don't want to even install updates until I get this working
[03:50] <Habstinat> I have an Ubuntu 10.10 CD in the drive right now, and I still had this in the drive when my computer was starting up. So, how does this picture make any sense at all, and what should I do about it? http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/193084708.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1289880402&Signature=ISdjVI0k5c4DRerJOlrT1ARi9JE%3D
[03:51] <moho> please
[03:51] <jgautier> is there a command i can use to rename all files in a directory to lower case?
[03:51] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, I'm not that good with grub2, and it is past my bed time, grub1 I could do it, I'm sure there is documentation, or someone that can help, just don't get too excited and doing crazy stuff
[03:51] <kilimanjaro> I get noticeably worse network performance on my laptop when I am not connected to A/C power (so, just running off the battery). Could this be due to some sort of power management setting in Ubuntu? I looked around but didn't see anything
[03:52] <Gallaeaho> Alright, enjoy your nights sleep ubuntu4shane, I'll look for you tomorrow if I can't solve my problem tonight.
[03:52] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: do you have both windows 7 and xp?
[03:52] <moho> so then caan somone pm me  a link to a page that has that info. rember to pm and not in open room
[03:52] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`, no, I had XP, The Windows 7 loader is coming from the Recovery Partition
[03:52] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, run this in the terminal:  sudo update-grub2  and see if XP gets picked up this time around
[03:52] <bastidrazor> moho: what are you talking about?
[03:53] <Gallaeaho> moho, search the software center
[03:53] <Gallaeaho> All else fails, google.
[03:53] <moho> how to you know
[03:53] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: ah. you might have to manually add it then. this system has xp if you want an example, although it will be similar to the windows 7 one
[03:53] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, you did backup before your installation right?
[03:54] <Gallaeaho> No, I didn't backup. I had no reason to because I was erasing the partition I wanted Ubuntu on. The XP partition itself is still in tact, but the grub installer didn't detect it-- Therefore not offering it as a bootable option
[03:54] <Gallaeaho> *intact
[03:55] <bastidrazor> !details | moho
[03:55] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: manual additions should go to /etc/grub.d/40_custom or similar, not to the grub config itself (otherwise it will get erased on an update)
[03:55] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, hindsight has told me always good idea to backup when messing with partitions, at any rate, should be there, and should be able to get it loaded.
[03:55] <ubuntu4shane> Gallaeaho, Kevin` can probably help you get it solved I'm off.  Night.
[03:56] <moho> the less you know the better  off you will be
[03:56] <mdpatrick> How do I get SSH setup so I can log into my desktop from a remote location????
[03:56] <mdpatrick> Is there a guide for which daemon I need to install? Got the impression there might be more than one?
[03:57] <bastidrazor> moho: apparently, you are the one who needs help. the lack of details prevents you getting what yo uneed.
[03:57] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: on an unrelated note, you do have a backup of the recovery partition, right? or the dvds it creates from windows? your oem will CHARGE you to replace that stuff, that's why they have it there at all
[03:57] <bastidrazor> mdpatrick: openssh-server is all that is needed and if behind a router port 22 forwarded
[03:57] <Maahes> now that x configuration has significantly changed, how does one go about changing the specified driver?
[03:57] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`, no I don't, and I don't care because I have media
[03:57] <seannon> hi all
[03:57] <mdpatrick> bastidrazor: damn good answer, would've forgot port 22 forwarding. thanks a ton :)
[03:58] <Gallaeaho> Er, I should say that I have original installation media
[03:58] <moho> ok,here it is. i need to know how to copy some dvd movies
[03:58] <Gallaeaho> moho, that we won't be able to help you with
[03:58] <bastidrazor> mdpatrick: it is common to forget port forwarding
[03:58] <Maahes> Additionally: Is there a way to query the bios version while the system is running?
[03:58] <Gallaeaho> lshw ?
[03:59] <bastidrazor> moho: acidrip  does well
[03:59] <moho> can yoou pm to where i can get help
[03:59] <Kevin`> moho: dvdbackup and growisofs with appropriate options usually works quite well. that one k* disc burning program can do it too.
[03:59] <Maahes> I don't think lshw does it, let me check again
[03:59] <Gallaeaho> Maahes, it might not, but it's the only thing I can think of righ tnow. Haha
[04:00] <bastidrazor> moho: even dvdrip is a good application. Kevin` k3b
[04:00] <Kevin`> lshw DOES show that info btw
[04:00] <mdpatrick> Any opinions on what SSH client I should get for my iphone? ;)
[04:00] <moho> ok will try
[04:00] <Gallaeaho> Oh, interesting
[04:00] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`
[04:00] <mdpatrick> (Gasp! I should have android!! hehe.)
[04:00] <Gallaeaho> There is no bootmgr on the Windows XP partition
[04:01] <rikkimaru> I have a samba share that I used to have to put a password in for when I tried to open the folder in my "Networks" tab in "Places". It doesn't ask for the password any more and I can't access the files (read-only). I suspect someone selected "Remember password forever" Is there a way to delete this kind of saved password?
[04:01] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: does it magically work anyway? which partition is marked active? (the ubuntu installer probably wouldn't change that)
[04:01] <Gallaeaho> give me a moment
[04:03] <Kevin`> if I was me I would be testing this with kvm, and manually entering things into grub for a minimum of rebooting, but you aren't necessarily me
[04:03] <meoblast001> hi
[04:03] <slgma> is there a way to open isos with gnomebaker
[04:03] <meoblast001> i'm having trouble connecting to my network with the following /etc/network/interfaces
[04:03] <slgma> like gnomebaker whatever.iso from terminal (obviouslt that doesnt work or i wouldnt have asked)
[04:03] <rikkimaru> how do I remove passwords that were stored and are used automatically on a samba folder?
[04:03] <meoblast001> iface eth0 inet static
[04:03] <meoblast001> address 192.168.1.100
[04:03] <meoblast001> network 192.168.1.1
[04:04] <meoblast001> this was working in the past.... but i just reinstalled my system, and now this configuration doesn't work
[04:04] <Kevin`> slgma: gnomebaker sounds like an authoring program, if you just want to burn an iso it may not be appropriate/necessary
[04:04] <meoblast001> i made sure i reserved that IP on the router, so that DHCP starts at 192.168.1.105
[04:05] <Kevin`> meoblast001: pastebin ip addr; ip route
[04:05] <tecnico> rikkimaru: not what you are looking for but a workaround is to change the pasword and force the client to ask for it again. This time don't save it
[04:05] <meoblast001> ah, i found it
[04:06] <Gallaeaho> Kevin, update-grub2 is not finding it
[04:06] <meoblast001> output of /etc/init.d/networking restart gave some useful error info
[04:06] <Gallaeaho> er
[04:06] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`
[04:06] <meoblast001> brb
[04:06] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: what I meant was, if you try to boot it anyway (with the pbr, as you normally would), does it work? update-grub not finding it is understandable if it has no bootloader
[04:07] <slgma> kevin`
[04:07] <slgma> gnomebaker is similar to brasero in its functionality
[04:08] <slgma> except it seems more stable
[04:08] <reya276> How can I get my Monitor Driver or Ubuntu to recognise my Flatpanel Display?
[04:09] <Kevin`> slgma: I may not be much help if you persist in the question (others should), I normally just use wodim/cdrecord or growisofs ;p
[04:10] <slgma> well im not a robot i prefer guis for complex tasks
[04:10] <Kevin`> what task are you doing?
[04:10] <slgma> i just want a disk burning app to open my isos when i double click them
[04:10] <bastidrazor> slgma: why not mount the iso if you don't want to burn it.  also if you don't mind a few extra libraries k3b is one of the best burning applications
[04:10] <Kevin`> heh, that's hardly a complicated task IMO ;p
[04:10] <slgma> im using k3b right now, jus tinstalled it
[04:10] <slgma> but i dont like the interface
[04:11] <slgma> i just want to associate gnomebaker with iso files if possible
[04:11] <slgma> i dont want other peoples opinions on what is a better way of doing it
[04:11] <bastidrazor> slgma: right click the iso and then open with.
[04:11] <slgma> it doesnt work with gnomebaker, atleast not as simple as you just said
[04:11] <slgma> already tried it
[04:12] <Kevin`> part of this comes from my best dvd burner being in the basement and many of my systems not having cd drives at all because they don't do anything
[04:12] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`, you wouldn't know where I can find a copy of bootmgr, would you?
[04:13] <adrian> hello
[04:13] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: the xp install cd can recreate that stuff, but I would hold off on it for now, and instead determine how it was managing to boot itself before you installed ununtu. the install wouldn't have deleted bootmgr
[04:13] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`, my guess is that the MBR was on the partition I deleted
[04:14] <stabme> Hello! I'm trying to write up my fstab so that it mounts my FAT32 drive, and gives me read / write / execute permissions; at the moment I can't seem to change the 'allow executing as program' checkbox. There is no prior entry for the external USB drive. What options should I be looking at?
[04:14] <lee_> hello everyone
[04:15] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: I think the relevent command is fixboot (not fixmbr, that will just screw up grub, mbr only has a very small part of the boot code) for xp, but it's really a ##windows question if that's not enough information on it
[04:15] <slgma> does brasero have a beta repo?
[04:15] <lee_> how do i get my keyrings to automatically start when my system boots up
[04:15] <slgma> id love to just stick with brasero but even in 10.10 it doesnt eject my dvd drive
[04:15] <gogeta> Kevin`: whats he trying to do
[04:15] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: although when you screw up grub you can come back here and ask about it :D. both channels can probably answer both questions for obvious reasons though
[04:15] <slgma> while gnomebaker has no problem ejecting it
[04:15] <lee_> like the wifi
[04:16] <Gallaeaho> Kevin`, but I'm trying to avoid a huge pain in the arse
[04:16] <Gallaeaho> :P
[04:16] <gogeta> Gallaeaho: if you removed linux yes you can use fixmbr for winows
[04:16] <Gallaeaho> No, I installed linux and can no longer boot into windows
[04:16] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: if the windows bootloader really was on the partition you deleted the pain in the arse is unavoidable. mark the windows partition as active (very important for ms tools) and run fixboot
[04:17] <gogeta> Gallaeaho: its not in your grub list?
[04:17] <Gallaeaho> that means i have to find the windows xp install cd that i burned for this laptop. ugh...
[04:17] <gogeta> Kevin`: you dont usew windows tools for fixing grub stop spreding bad advice
[04:17] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: you could also use a server 2003 cd
[04:17] <Kevin`> gogeta: grub works fine
[04:17] <Gallaeaho> er, I don't have any of those kicking around
[04:18] <Gallaeaho> Although, if I really needed that, I could sign onto MSDN and download it...
[04:18] <lee_> i have a little question
[04:18] <gogeta> Gallaeaho: if you partations have change just boot ubuntu live cd run sudo update-grub2 it will regenrate the list
[04:18] <lee_> how do i get my keyrings to automatically start when my system boots up
[04:19] <lee_> i hit the automatically do it at login but it doesnt work
[04:19] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: I really recommend you try booting each of the partitions in turn with grub first though (as I asked originally), although you are probably right in it being currently impossible
[04:19] <Gallaeaho> I did that
[04:19] <Kevin`> and what did it do? you just said you ran update-grub
[04:20] <Gallaeaho> It just rebuilt the config with the same OSes listed
[04:20] <gogeta> Kevin`: its update-grub2
[04:20] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: I don't want you to run update-grub, I want you to type crypic commands from the grub menu and have it actually try to boot the partitions manually (or add menu entries for them)
[04:21] <gogeta> Kevin`: you cant use find stage 1 on grub 2
[04:21] <Kevin`> gogeta: his grub is working
[04:21] <Kevin`> he erased the windows bootloader during the install
[04:22] <Gallaeaho> I'm a her fyi.. :p
[04:22] <gogeta> Kevin`: grub handels the boot loading
[04:22] <Kevin`> not for windows, it just loads the windows bootloader
[04:22] <Kevin`> check the menu entry if you don't believe me ;p
[04:22] <gogeta> Gallaeaho: then hes correct use xp cd go into recovery console type fixboot c:
[04:23] <Gallaeaho> doing so right now
[04:23] <Gallaeaho> i hope i got the right XP CD though
[04:23] <Kevin`> Gallaeaho: did you check which partitions were active first? microsoft's tools will just get confused if it's not marked correctly beforehand
[04:23] <gogeta> Gallaeaho: standerd installer
[04:23] <Gallaeaho> Yeahm I know gogeta
[04:24] <Kevin`> it doesn't need to be a specific make of cd, although it needs to be an installer for xp or similar, NOT an image recovery cd
[04:24] <Gallaeaho> But I have two editions of XP laying around, Professional and Home editions
[04:24] <Gallaeaho> And Home edition does not have the recovery console
[04:24] <Kevin`> either will work
[04:24] <Kevin`> (an installer for it, that is)
[04:24] <Gallaeaho> I don't think so, at least.
[04:25] <gogeta> Kevin`: i dont think thats whats rending it unbootable
[04:25] <infopirate> what do i need to put in my sources.lst file to apt-get openoffice?
[04:25] <gogeta> Kevin`: the xp boot loader just looks for first activ and boot it uses the mbr
[04:25] <blackshirt> infopirate: apt-get install open-office
[04:26] <infopirate> blackshirt: E: Couldn't find package open-office
[04:26] <maximumHAX> can anyone tell me what package provides 'netdate' ? i cannot seem to find it on ubuntu..
[04:26] <Kevin`> infopirate: apt-cache search open office
[04:26] <bastidrazor> !find netdate
[04:26] <blackshirt> infopirate: can you pastebin your sources.list
[04:27] <maximumHAX> thanks
[04:27] <gogeta> Kevin`: if you deleted his partation he changed his layout making grub unable to boot it
[04:27] <Kevin`> gogeta: he deleted it before he came here
[04:28] <lee_> if he resized or deleted any linux partition he deleted his grub so just needs to reinstall the grub
[04:28] <lee_> then tell it so mount windows
[04:28] <gogeta> lee_: his grub works just whont start windows
[04:28] <Kevin`> (or at least, before I was here)
[04:28] <lee_> ohh
[04:28] <lee_> he should do a fstab -l
[04:28] <lee_> see if it comes up
[04:28] <lee_> i think thats the command
[04:29] <rbht> fdisk -l
[04:29] <lee_> yeah
[04:29] <lee_> fdisk pardon me
[04:29] <rbht> rm -rf /mnt/windows
[04:29] <bastidrazor> rbht: don't be silly
[04:29] <gogeta> Kevin`: i had a windows do that once before and adding chanloder +1 to grub worked
[04:30] <rbht> boot to dos
[04:30] <rbht> install dos bootloader
[04:30] <rbht> then download bootpart
[04:30] <rbht> and use it to load linux
[04:30] <Kevin`> gogeta: the command in grub 2 is a bit differenter, but you will note I DID recommend trying that approach first (even though he checked that the actual windows bootloader executable is missing, probably won't do much)
[04:31] <zoidberg-> bada bing, bada bong! :D
[04:31] <theGman> Can someone tell me or point me to a doc to allow me to use both a wireless and wired conn in 10.04?
[04:31] <gogeta> Kevin`: you mean ntbl or whatever
[04:31] <gogeta> Kevin`: that normaly means nucked install
[04:31] <theGman> I am not trying to bridge the conns either...unless I have to...
[04:32] <Kevin`> gogeta: if you have anything except a straight one disk one partition at install time you risk windows putting the bootloader and main system on different partitions and calling c: q: instead and similar. probably happened to him here.
[04:32] <theGman> I am going to be using a laptop for dev and another machine as the "fileserver/webserver" but that mach needs to stay connected to net with wireless for emails and skype.
[04:32] <gogeta> Kevin`: never had that happon
[04:32] <Kevin`> I would hope he didn't erase the os partition, although that makes recovery far easier ;p
[04:33] <Kevin`> theGman: that kind of stuff is generally easiest to do WITHOUT networkmanager
[04:33] <A_New_Server> Is there an official channel to discuss problems with the emerald theme manager?
[04:33] <mobasher> !pastebin
[04:34] <theGman> Kevin`: Uh...ok...then next logical question is...now what? :P
[04:34] <Kevin`> theGman: and my next logical question is: explain your network setup
[04:34] <gogeta> theGman: i dont get your question
[04:36] <theGman> gogeta: Which question?
[04:36] <gogeta> ba
[04:36] <[thor]> theGman: i can connect both my eth0 and wan0, but i am not sure which is being used in any given occasion
[04:36] <Kevin`> these channels are a strange time black hole. I have dwarf fortress sitting in the background using 3.5gb ram and it's doing nothing while i'm here ;p
[04:37] <[thor]> theGman: i simply enable both, and provide no additional configuration aside from the wifi pass
[04:37] <gogeta> [thor]: whatever one you set defult
[04:37] <theGman> [thor]: True...however, in my case, if I have a wired conn present it won't let the "inet" stuff connect trhough wireless...
[04:37] <Kevin`> theGman: you should not have a default gateway specified on the wired interface
[04:37] <gogeta> well he didnt even say what he whanted to do
[04:38] <A_New_Server> How do I use an emerald theme? I have it in the Emerald Theme Manager and it says it's up-to-date, unfortunately clicking nor double-clicking apply the theme. I've also tried emerald --replace and it doesn't help, although everytime I click the theme in the Theme Manager it says "Refreshing" in the console.
[04:38] <theGman> as soon as I disconnect my local...oh wait...I bet the wired router still has the default ip stuff...which would be the same as the wireless atm...linksys is like that...all 192.168.1...etc
[04:38] <Kevin`> theGman: it also should be a differnet subnet, of course. if it's the same, you have other problems
[04:38] <xangua> A_New_Server: run: " emerald --replace "
[04:38] <theGman> Ok...know how to fix it then :P
[04:39] <gogeta> theGman: why use 2 nic to connect to the same net
[04:39] <Kevin`> theGman: if you are using dhcp on both, you should make this change from the wired side's dhcp server
[04:39] <kish> does anyone have an asus 1215n
[04:39] <A_New_Server> xangua, I said I tried that and it didn't work. I tried it with the spaces exactly as you did it and it does the same thing
[04:39] <theGman> gogeta: Duh...that's the point...it wasn't SUPPOSED to conn to the same net...one is ONLY internal...but their default confis are all the same...if I went to store and bought one right now...it would ALSO be the same.
[04:40] <reya276> how can I get my Monitor Driver or Ubuntu to recognise my Dell Flatpanel Display?
[04:40] <xangua> A_New_Server: are you running compiz¿
[04:40] <iszak> Is there anyway to make an alias for a chain of commands?
[04:40] <theGman> gogeta: One of the routers doesn't conn to the net...only internal.
[04:40] <gogeta> theGman: then wtf
[04:40] <A_New_Server> xangua, that name doesn't ring a bell, so if it doesn't run by default then no.
[04:40] <theGman> gog
[04:40] <ftg2> gogeta: how is that strange to you? thats not an unusual setup
[04:40] <Kevin`> theGman: this is why networking is never truely plug and play or config-free unless you are just a user ;p
[04:40] <xangua> A_New_Server: a.k.a. desktop efects...
[04:40] <theGman> gogeta: but internally still has the default setup...
[04:41] <theGman> Kevin`: I know right. :P
[04:41] <gogeta> ftg2: well i knoe setting one nic to shard host only and using nic 2 for net in a cat5 setup
[04:41] <A_New_Server> sudo apt-get install compiz?
[04:41] <xangua> A_New_Server: you can only use emetald with compiz
[04:41] <A_New_Server> Aaah
[04:41] <gogeta> ftg2: on a roughter you only need 1
[04:41] <theGman> Kevin`: Good thing it's not diff for me to fix :)
[04:41] <xangua> compiz already comes installed in ubuntu
[04:41] <theGman> ok...I'm off then.
[04:41] <Kevin`> theGman: personally I would set up the other router to have internet access in one form or another, I don't like things unroutable
[04:42] <A_New_Server> xangua, It says I already have it and it's updated. How do I run it?
[04:42] <xangua> A_New_Server: do you have desktops eefect¿
[04:42] <A_New_Server> xangua, how do I check that?
[04:42] <iszak> nvm
[04:42] <Kevin`> there is some extra config app to enable various desktop shiny, but it's something I look up every time I have to use it
[04:43] <xangua> A_New_Server: ......... 3d efects¿¿
[04:43] <Kevin`> you need video drivers working first though
[04:43] <A_New_Server> xangua, I do in Windows 7 (my host, I'm running Ubuntu as a guest in vbox), I've never tried nor would I know how to test if they're working here.
[04:43] <gogeta> Kevin`: oh a dule roughter setup well he left heh but just connecting to 2 should auto set
[04:43] <Luqman> Hello
[04:44] <Luqman> I seem to be getting some weird glib errors
[04:44] <Kevin`> A_New_Server: are you sure vbox supports 3d accelleration for guests? (I would be out of date in this information, but it used to NOT)
[04:44] <robertzaccour> is there a good dock program that doesn't require compiz?
[04:44] <gogeta> Kevin`: yes but barly
[04:44] <Luqman> any program which uses glib will not start for me
[04:44] <lee_> docky doesnt i i think
[04:44] <A_New_Server> Kevin`, no, I don't know at all, I don't think I ever really used 3D acceleration
[04:44] <xangua> A_New_Server: i believe you can't enable efect in virtualbox, so then you can't use compiz and emerald; if i am wrong some one correct me
[04:45] <robertzaccour> lee, i will try that thanks
[04:45] <Luqman> Virtualbox does have some 3d acceleration for guests
[04:45] <Kevin`> xangua: A_New_Server: gogeta says it might be possible
[04:45] <lee_> i think it says in the description of it that it doesnt require compiz
[04:45] <A_New_Server> Can someone recommend me to a good snow leopard theme that doesn't use emerald then, please?
[04:45] <lee_> and it looks nice
[04:45] <A_New_Server> I've found 3 and they all use emerald
[04:45] <gogeta> A_New_Server: you need the closed source version of virtulebox from orcal
[04:45] <lee_> ill check
[04:45] <xangua> robertzaccour: you just need to enable metacity composite : run "gcong-editor" go to /apps/metacity/general and mark 'compositing_manager"
[04:45] <Luqman> So is anyone else getting any problems with glib?
[04:46] <kish> when i install this proprietary nvidia driver my xorg will fail to load. is there a way to solve this?
[04:46] <Luqman> I get "GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.0/glib/gmem.c:202: failed to allocate 15728116520 bytes" when I try to run any program using glib
[04:47] <krashed> i need help finding drivers for my sony vaio motion-eye
[04:47] <krashed> krashed@hacktop:~$ lsusb|grep Ricoh
[04:47] <krashed> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05ca:18b3 Ricoh Co., Ltd
[04:47] <krashed> i can find other pid modules but not 1 for 05ca:18b3
[04:48] <lee_> Luqman_: try installing the nvidia drivers from the actual nvidia website
[04:48] <bawn> how do i get the comment "created by gimp" to stop coming up
[04:48] <Luqman> lee_, why would I install nividia drivers? I have an intel card
[04:48] <dzup2> lolz
[04:48] <bawn> nvm
[04:48] <Kevin`> kish: yes. simplest method of course would be to have xorg not use the driver so it works again, but I don't think that is what you wanted? did you install the driver from nvidia's download or from ubntun packages?
[04:49] <Kevin`> glib is not a 3d library
[04:50] <Kevin`> the error itself sounds rather annoying though, unless you are somehow running just programs that need large amounts of ram and you don't have swap
[04:50] <A_New_Server> Hey sorry for leaving, when I closed the terminal where I had typed in compiz it took out the bar with the X/minimize/maximize at the top and I couldn't input text into any window so I had to restart
[04:50] <gogeta> Kevin`: naa i run swapless on 1gb and dont get that
[04:51] <homecable> any one have problems booting a grsec kernel on 10.10 ?
[04:51] <sukuri> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo <-- also, this fixed my bug from earlier
[04:51] <Kevin`> Luqman: btw, i'm sure you checked this, but that's 14gb it's trying to allocate, which explains the message but not what's causing it to be requested
[04:51] <Luqman> Which is weird
[04:52] <Luqman> only glib-linked programs fail it seems
[04:52] <Luqman> firefox, xchat etc work fine
[04:52] <Zeu5> hi there i have a bash script that works perfectly when i run . bash_script in terminal. i want to create a launcher that will run the bash script and will keep the terminal window open. i have googled around but keep getting it wrong somehow. please advise
[04:52] <gogeta> Kevin`: seting his ram in grub to force the correct size maybe
[04:52] <Kevin`> did you try re-installing the relevant glib libraries?
[04:52] <gogeta> unless of course you have 14gb of ram
[04:52] <Kevin`> does the same problem happen as a different user?
[04:53] <Luqman> I only have one user
[04:53] <JLM`> what is a package name for a C compiler besides gcc?
[04:53] <gogeta> gcc
[04:53] <Kevin`> add another one. users have lots of state information that various frameworks use
[04:53] <JLM`> my gcc doesnt work
[04:53] <Luqman> weird
[04:53] <Luqman> it seems to work as root
[04:53] <gogeta> jumbers: try instaling build essentles
[04:53] <Zeu5> hi there i have a bash script that works perfectly when i run . bash_script in terminal. i want to create a launcher that will run the bash script and will keep the terminal window open. i have googled around but keep getting it wrong somehow. please advise
[04:54] <hichem> hi
[04:54] <Kevin`> JLM`: I suggest you fix gcc, there are other c compliers, but gcc is really the standard for almost everything, much won't work with other stuff without changes
[04:54] <bogdan> anyone has experience with zimbra
[04:54] <DhyE> zeus,, make it executable
[04:54] <JLM`> what version of gcc is current? i have 4.2.4
[04:54] <Kevin`> JLM`: icc will work for many things, as a direct answer, though
[04:54] <Luqman> get gcc 4.4
[04:55] <Luqman> Thanks guys, it seems to work now :)
[04:55] <Kevin`> my ubuntu is using 4.4.3, although you should not need to worry about versioning
[04:55] <gogeta> jumbers: if you try to compile ina folder you dont have permissions for itwill need root lol
[04:55] <Luqman> Had to delete the .gstreamer folder in my home
[04:55] <JLM`> sudo apt-get install gcc installed 4.2.4 is there any way to force the new version
[04:56] <reya276> Does Ubuntu 10.10 uses XORG.conf file to Identify your monitor?
[04:56] <Zeu5> its okie i had it worked. thanks
[04:56] <kish> kevin`, installing it now from ubuntu's repositories
[04:56] <Kevin`> JLM`: the old version should work fine if it's what the system installed. there may be other versions in the package list (check), installing gcc manually is NOT trivial.
[04:56] <Kevin`> (also, installing gcc requires gcc)
[04:57] <reya276> If this is not the case then how can I tell my system what type of Monitor/Flatpanel I am using I need to create a color profile but the color profile application is not recognising the damn flatpanel display
[04:57] <JLM`> the error im getting is error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[04:57] <JLM`> also (c compiler too)
[04:57] <Kevin`> JLM`: run it manually and see what happens
[04:57] <dogarrhea1> is there a way to get gaming performance without dual boot using only open source?
[04:57] <JLM`> maybe i have to give the ./configure script root permissions?
[04:57] <dogarrhea1> or is this a pipe dream.
[04:58] <Kevin`> JLM`: unlikely
[04:58] <dogarrhea1> i'm talking high performance games like call of duty (crisis even after all thse years) doom 4 when it comes out yadda yadda
[04:59] <dogarrhea1> or should i just stick with windows for that and reboot into ubuntu for software devel
[04:59] <dogarrhea1> vm is god awfully slow
[04:59] <Kevin`> JLM`: do this: http://pastebin.com/KAey3wty
[05:00] <sixam> dogarrhea1, try cygwin
[05:00] <dogarrhea1> better than wine sixam?
[05:00] <dogarrhea1> oh
[05:00] <dogarrhea1> it's used IN windows not something that emulates from ubuntu
[05:01] <rbht> cygwin actually really cool
[05:01] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: you can get very good performance if you run games natively in linux. if you want to run window-only games, wine has good performance but only works with MOST things. otherwise, install windows, really.
[05:02] <JLM`> Kevin` fixed it!
[05:02] <JLM`> i needed to apt-get build-essential
[05:02] <JLM`> :D
[05:02] <JLM`> works perfect
[05:02] <dogarrhea1> eh. i'll just buy two laptops
[05:02] <JLM`> thanks a bunch Kevin`
[05:02] <dogarrhea1> or computers whatever heh one windows one unix/linux/macosx/whatever
[05:02] <homer_> Hello every one
[05:03] <blackshirt> hello
[05:03] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: help the economy, that's good. it's not the route i'd take though. actually I wouldn't use a laptop for gaming at all, i'd get the best laptop I could for mobile use, and dual-boot a desktop for games. nice cheap graphics cards for desktops.
[05:03] <Error404NotFound> can i install php4 using apt-get on lucid lynx?
[05:03] <ftg2> dogarrhea1: yeah. it depends on the game / game developer. most of them aren't cool enough to develop for linux. wine is alright i guess. i would keep the windows install
[05:03] <homer_> im am very new to unbuntu
[05:03] <blackshirt> homer_: i'm too
[05:03] <voss749> Kevin, Windows 7 only works with MOST windows things. Ive noticed WOW runs better on wine than on vista
[05:04] <homer_> not very tech savy yet
[05:04] <DJJeff|Ubuntu> ubuntu 10.10 where are the monitor/gfx settings getting saved? (there is no xorg.conf when I try locate it there is a /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/)
[05:04] <ftg2> dogarrhea1: on a side note though, cygwin is really awesome. if you have to be in windows, it makes it bearable. or msys
[05:04] <Kevin`> voss749: I have xp (dual boot) on my media center computer JUST for running the occasional windows gamet that 7 won't run, heh
[05:04] <Kevin`> it was hell to install, xp likes old hardware and the system is kind of legacy free
[05:04] <homer_> took me 30 min just to figure out how to join this channel to get help
[05:05] <blackshirt> homer_: okey homer..welcome to ubuntu channel...
[05:05] <homer_> thank you
[05:05] <voss749> Kevin you would probably be better off running XP in virtualbox :)
[05:05] <Kevin`> voss749: bad 3d performance
[05:06] <dogarrhea1> very bad
[05:06] <Kevin`> it's ok for desktop stuff, but it's not really to the point you can use it for gaming
[05:06] <dogarrhea1> you already can't run highest antialiasing highest 1080p high quality
[05:06] <dogarrhea1> even on native windows
[05:06] <Kevin`> except perhaps with xen and some really fancy hardware
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> In 10.10 with Canonical Partners repo enabled, USC show Adobe Air and Adobe Flash Plugin 10 as the first two items listed, BUT it only gives a More Info button and not an Install button like seemly everything else!?  Is this because I'm running 64bit Ubuntu?  NOTE: when I click More Info on either of them, it bring me to the Add "maverick-partner" source with the Use This Source button, which when pressed doesn't really seem to do anything (and I
[05:06] <ZykoticK9>  can confirm installs from partner repo).
[05:07] <dogarrhea1> even on hex core quad SLI  video cards
[05:07] <homer_> just let me know if im off topic but i would like to know if there is a way i can get microsoft silverlight to work in unbuntu so I can watch net flix
[05:07] <dogarrhea1> maybe if u add liquid nitrogen
[05:07] <dogarrhea1> and overclock.
[05:07] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: i'm not talking about adding performance, i'm talking about having windows use the graphics card directly while it's in a vm
[05:08] <dogarrhea1> vms always bottle performance
[05:08] <voss749> homer. I bought a roku box they are like $79-99
[05:08] <dogarrhea1> they're good for servers... not desktop really
[05:08] <Kevin`> it needs fancy hardware, not necessarily powerful hardware
[05:08] <The_Tick> homer_: I think it's called moonlight
[05:08] <homer_> yeh i tried to install moon light but got any error
[05:09] <voss749> moonlight wont work with netflix because moonlight doesnt have drm
[05:09] <homer_> somthing about not compatible with my version of linux
[05:09] <homer_> it wouldn't even install
[05:10] <homer_> as far as a roku box goes i cant afford one
[05:10] <dogarrhea1> i was wondering. if i install squid, isn't ther some way that people can still find out my "real" ip?
[05:10] <rbht> dogarrhea1: not if you configure as anonymous
[05:11] <dogarrhea1> ok.
[05:11] <digitalstimulus> anyone have any ideas why my boot splash (10.10, Plymouth?) is no longer working.  I just see a blinking cursor and when I log out, I see a text logout, but the columns are off
[05:11] <homer_> sorry not that tech savy yet
[05:12] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: be very careful to SECURE squid wherever you install it, otherwise it becomes the most common form of open proxy on the internet and will get you banned from irc and send spam everywhere ;p
[05:12] <ZykoticK9> digitalstimulus, with nvidia drive and 10.10 i'm experiencing similar things with Plymouth currently
[05:12] <digitalstimulus> ZykoticK9, would you happen to know if there is a way to set the resolution or columns?  I tried changing the plymouth theme also and it still doesn't work
[05:13] <dogarrhea1> kevin` so you're saying that others will abuse my proxy to look at naked girls who are -2 years old?
[05:13] <homer_> what is drm
[05:13] <homer_> ?
[05:13] <digitalstimulus> it's annoying when my boot splash screen isn't all purty like
[05:13] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: nah, there's no profit in that
[05:13] <h00k> dogarrhea1: Keep it appropriate, please.
[05:13] <homer_> in regards to novel moon light?
[05:13] <connermcd> I'm trying to browse a Windows Network and I get Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[05:13] <connermcd> Please select another viewer and try again.
[05:14] <ZykoticK9> digitalstimulus, i played with Plymouth a little bit when it first arrived, and i very quickly decided it was best to just leave it alone (i only see if for a few seconds, every couple of days usually).
[05:14] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: also, it's not secure enough to use for that
[05:14] <dogarrhea1> how so kevin`
[05:14] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: since YOU have logs of both sides
[05:14] <dogarrhea1> oh.
[05:14] <Kevin`> that's like going up to someone on the street and asking them to buy drugs for you to hide your identity
[05:14] <dogarrhea1> happens all th etime.
[05:15] <dogarrhea1> "i'm not 21 yet. buy me some beer. ok"
[05:15] <Kevin`> well it's fine if you trust the person and it's not illegal by itself ;p
[05:15] <h00k> !ot | Kevin`, dogarrhea1
[05:15] <Kevin`> I mean some random stranger and tell them to buy cocaine
[05:15] <Kevin`> aww :(
[05:15] <dogarrhea1> haa
[05:15] <dogarrhea1> so when u mean "secure" how would it be abused?
[05:15] <h00k> Kevin`: That is not appropriate here. please keep it on-topic
[05:16] <digitalstimulus> ZykoticK9, I will search for plymouth and nvidia and see if I can come up with anything
[05:16] <connermcd> I'm trying to browse a Windows network and I get Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server. Please select another viewer and try again.
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> digitalstimulus, there was some webupd8 article not too long ago about fixing plymouth resolution for nvidia
[05:16] <homer_> does any one know if it is possible to use whine to operate microsoft silver light?
[05:17] <h00k> homer_: you could probably check with #winehq, but I don't think so
[05:17] <studentz> connermcd  try   Places-> Connect to server
[05:17] <homer_> ok thanks hook
[05:17] <connermcd> studentz mmhmm that's what I'm doing
[05:17] <homer_> i will try and learn how to do that
[05:18] <h00k> homer_: you can check with them by doing /join #winehq
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> homer_, my suggestions is try to get a good working version of firefox in wine, and test if you can get silverlight working somehow.  just a suggestion, doubt it will work.
[05:18] <digitalstimulus> homer_, are you trying to netflix?  If you are I can save you a bunch of hassle :P
[05:18] <studentz> connermcd  Did you set up the other machine?
[05:18] <Kevin`> you use a proxy server mainly to change where you are coming from, not hide who you are (you still own the server, in your case, so you are hiding as yourself. if you didn't own the server the other person would have the logs). actually hiding yourself is a bit more complicated
[05:18] <aeMaeth> homer_, http://go-mono.com/moonlight/
[05:19] <homer_> yes iam
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> homer_, if it's netflix i don't think it works.  i can confirm from other sources digitalstimulus's negative reports
[05:19] <Kevin`> homer_: if you follow the links on microsoft's 'get silverlight' thing it will actually point you to the correct moonlight stuff
[05:19] <connermcd> studentz yes, I can boot to my WinXP VM and browse the network from there
[05:20] <homer_> ok ill try it
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> homer_, a VM is probably your best bet
[05:20] <digitalstimulus> homer_, Netflix uses Silverlight version 3.x, I don't think Mono is there yet, when Netflix used 2.x, Mono was at 1.9x.  The closest I got it was using firefox with a user agent switcher, netflix passed the check for silverlight, but failed with an error code
[05:20] <dogarrhea1> hrm. Kevin`, you could give someone money to pay for the server with their credit card
[05:21] <homer_> what is vm?
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> digitalstimulus, have you tried it in  a VM at all?
[05:21] <dogarrhea1> Virtual mom
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> homer_, virtual machine
[05:21] <digitalstimulus> homer_, I ended up using netflix on Wii disc (now a download),  You can also try using a virtual machine, but my experience with that about 1 year ago was dodgy at best.  very choppy
[05:21] <dogarrhea1> machine.
[05:21] <homer_> ok this is new to me
[05:21] <Raikia> heya
[05:21] <studentz> connermcd  so you are trying to share a directory  btw your Desktop and your VM ?
[05:21] <homer_> is it like a emulator?
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> homer_, virtualbox or vmware type thing run windows
[05:21] <aeMaeth> yea, wii and xbox are both fine for netflix without a disk now
[05:22] <connermcd> studentz no, I'm trying to browse a remote network from my ubuntu machine
[05:22] <dogarrhea1> get vmware fusion.
[05:22] <connermcd> studentz I am able to browse said network from my VM, but that's not where I want to browse it
[05:22] <digitalstimulus> virtualbox-ose is the package name, it was very choppy for me, but now they have 2d and 3d hardware acceleration, your experience may vary
[05:22] <homer_> no idea what that means sorry
[05:22] <studentz> connermcd Dis you sdet samba
[05:22] <connermcd> studentz I installed samba... I don't know what sdet means
[05:23] <studentz> connermcd sorry Did you set up samba?
[05:23] <connermcd> studentz What do I need to do to set it up
[05:23] <dogarrhea1> oh god
[05:23] <digitalstimulus> homer_, Virtual machines are basically a way to install another operating system within a host operating system, hence "Virtual" machine. you still need the disc and such for the guest operating system for it to work
[05:23] <homer_> I guess i have a lot to learn
[05:23] <Raikia> does anyone here use xchat?
[05:23] <dogarrhea1> why does open source say "documentation" but link you to a commercial website?
[05:23] <ZykoticK9> homer_, if you own a retail copy of XP, Vista, 7 you could install it, inside a VM - using either virtualbox-ose in the repo, or vmware.
[05:23] <dogarrhea1> when you click the "documentation"
[05:23] <digitalstimulus> Raikia, yes, I do
[05:23] <DhyE> rakia ; yup.
[05:23] <Raikia> digitalstimulus, how do you change the background color of the channel/server sidebar?
[05:23] <coz_> Raikia,  I also use xchat
[05:24] <aeMaeth> homer_, there's a 3.0 "preview" that "should be considered alpha" so use at own risk http://go-mono.com/moonlight/prerelease.aspx
[05:24] <lixinfish> hello~ how can I change all courier fonts to consolas in ubuntu?
[05:24] <studentz> connermcd give me a second please.
[05:24] <digitalstimulus> Raikia, I use defaults, don't know
[05:24] <Raikia> or is it even possible
[05:24] <Raikia> ah
[05:24] <Raikia> anyone else?
[05:24] <Pentheus> assuming you have two interfaces (bond0 and bond1) which both provide paths to reach 10.0.0.0/16 and you want to assign 10.0.0.1/16 locally to the Linux box, what is the best practice way to do this to ensure access to 10.0.0.1/16 if either of the interfaces (bond0 or bond1) go away since a simple IP assignment to either interface leaves you vulnerable to the interface (and address) disappearing
[05:24] <h00k> dogarrhea1: Is that an Ubuntu related question?
[05:24] <homer_> Digital stimulus thank you
[05:24] <coz_> Raikia,   you could go to #xchat channel and ask to be sure :)
[05:24] <dogarrhea1> yes h00k
[05:24] <din> i use xchat + ssh tunnel from my home -> freenode
[05:24] <Raikia> coz_, crap, thats the intelligent answer :-P
[05:24] <Raikia> thanks :-P
[05:24] <dogarrhea1> i was reading ubuntu docs on squid. which redirected  me to squid which had a link that said "quick guide" which redirected me to a commercial website offering "support"
[05:25] <aeMaeth> !attitude | Raikia
[05:25] <din> dogarrhea1, i've used tinyproxy before... pretty simple. not sure what you are trying to do.
[05:25] <homer_> aemaeth cant get moon light to install on my box
[05:25] <dogarrhea1> din, i'm trying to hide
[05:26] <dogarrhea1> at least temporarily
[05:26] <Kevin`> how did I get disconnected?
[05:26] <homer_> says it is not compatible with my version of linux
[05:26] <din> dogarrhea1, looked at tor?
[05:26] <aeMaeth> Kevin`, looked like a netsplit
[05:26] <studentz> coonermcd here is a link  https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html
[05:26] <h00k> !netsplit
[05:26] <homer_> of somthing of the sort
[05:26] <dogarrhea1> no din. do they use publicly known IP ?
[05:26] <xangua> homer_: sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[05:26] <Kevin`> it's strange, I think my irc client dies less than the server I connect to freenode with
[05:26] <studentz> connermcd just read the Clients part
[05:27] <mneptok> dogarrhea1: i seen no "Quick Guide" text at http://www.squid-cache.org/. do you have the referring URL?
[05:27] <din> dogarrhea1, your traffic bounces off of other tor nodes on the net. look it up.
[05:27] <ZykoticK9> homer_, on my box both the following cause segfaults (uninstall to fix) - but there is moonlight-plugin-mozilla and moonlight-plugin-chromium - maybe you'll have better luck.
[05:27] <bombshell> How do I install Src packages using synaptices
[05:27] <dogarrhea1> ok din. i don't think that'll work in my situation
[05:27] <dogarrhea1> probably need a static
[05:28] <sixam> bombshell, apt-get source $package
[05:28] <homer_> i am using firefox
[05:28] <dogarrhea1> mneptok, the link said Configuration Guide - Visolve
[05:28] <imgx64> I'm using the "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" to change the CPU frequency, but it changes back to Ondemand on restart. How can I make it persistent?
[05:28] <homer_> do i need adifferent browser?
[05:28] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: use tor, if the traffic you will be transmitting needs to be anonymous (from all but the best-equipped governments), but doesn't need to be kept secure or high bandwidth
[05:28] <ZykoticK9> homer_, so try installing moonlight-plugin-mozilla (it's for firefox)
[05:28] <din> dogarrhea1, ssh tunnel + tinyproxy ?
[05:28] <bombshell> sixam: thanks
[05:29] <dogarrhea1> din, currently looking at squid. are squid and tinyproxy the same?
[05:29] <homer_> ok do you have a link for it?
[05:29] <rbht> dogarrhea1: if you are really paranoid use freenetproject.org
[05:29] <xangua> homer_: sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[05:29] <mneptok> dogarrhea1: that company provides commercial, pay-for support and services for Squid. that's how most Free and open source software devs make money.
[05:29] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: where do you plan to actually run squid?
[05:29] <dogarrhea1> Kevin` some ubuntu box
[05:30] <homer_> ok if i enter that command will it do the res for me?
[05:30] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: your own box, at a random datacenter?
[05:30] <homer_> *rest
[05:30] <dogarrhea1> yes Kevin`
[05:30] <ZykoticK9> homer_, it's built into ubuntu (in the default repository) use ubuntu-software-center and search for moonlight, or use cli with "sudo apt-get install moonlight-plugin-mozilla"  good luck.
[05:30] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: you may find it easier to use a vpn, but squid could work ok too
[05:30] <homer_> thank you
[05:30] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: who are you trying to hide from?
[05:30] <dogarrhea1> i have openvpn set up. but that's not providing "anonymity"
[05:31] <dogarrhea1> that's just connecting my network to a remote one.
[05:31] <din> dogarrhea1, tor would provide that
[05:31] <mneptok> Kevin`: proxy servers do much more than obfuscate.
[05:31] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: after your networks are connected you send traffic using the server's address instead of your own
[05:31] <AegNuddel> I attempted to install a wireless card in my desktop but it won't detect.  I run Studio on if that matters...  Is there something I need to do?
[05:31] <dogarrhea1> kevin` that implies proxy right?
[05:32] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: no, you can do it with just the vpn
[05:32] <mneptok> AegNuddel: check System > Admin > Hardware drivers
[05:32] <dogarrhea1> how's that.. i hear vpn != proxy
[05:32] <rbht> dogarrhea1: VPN is actually more secure than proxy
[05:32] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: vpns and proxies are different, but both can be used to change the source address of traffic
[05:32] <AegNuddel> mneptok, what do I need to lo for specifically?
[05:32] <homer_> ok  it says it is installing
[05:32] <AegNuddel> look
[05:33] <mneptok> AegNuddel: check System > Admin > Hardware drivers. it will list non-Free binary drivers for any hardware that needs them.
[05:33] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: who are you trying to hide from? be aware that unless you are careful, your basic large internet corporation can still track you using a browser fingerprint
[05:33] <dogarrhea1> Kevin`, that's not really important lol
[05:33] <AegNuddel> okay!  thanks!
[05:33] <wen> 呵呵
[05:33] <dogarrhea1> i know that my ISP can do wahtever they want
[05:33] <bombshell> sixam: I'm actualling look for development fiels for aspell
[05:33] <mneptok> !cn > wen
[05:33] <dogarrhea1> they can man in the middle attack me when i'm on ebay
[05:34] <dogarrhea1> and steal my credit card.
[05:34] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: I don't mean your isp, you can actually hide from your isp
[05:34] <slgma> anyone know where to get some screensavers for ubuntu?
[05:34] <slgma> seems like it has a very limited selection
[05:34] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: I mean the site you are connecting to can track you based on information from your web browser
[05:34] <dogarrhea1> even after i delete cach/cookies?
[05:34] <Kevin`> yes
[05:34] <bombshell> Sickki: I'm actually looking for the developemnt files for aspell
[05:34] <coz_> slgma,   open synaptic package manager
[05:34] <homer_> ok the terminal says:ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[05:34] <homer_>  does this mean it sucessfully installed?
[05:35] <dogarrhea1> are you sure about this Kevin`
[05:35] <slgma> coz_ i didnt see any in there really
[05:35] <slgma> maybe 1 or 2 crappy ones
[05:35] <dogarrhea1> you can always uninstall and reinstall
[05:35] <slgma> i cant believe that there isnt more available
[05:35] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: this web site has some data problems, but explains the process rather clearly: http://panopticlick.eff.org/
[05:35] <slgma> somewhere
[05:35] <coz_> slgma,  then hit search and type in xscreensaver... you will see xscreesaver-data-extra  xscreensaver[-gl and xscreensaver -gl-extra
[05:36] <slgma> ok
[05:36] <coz_> slgma,  you dont have to install the actual xscreensaver package for them to work with gnome-screensaver
[05:36] <xc0ffee> At times when I try to navigate to tty terminal by pressing 'ctrl+alt+f1", ubuntu 10.10 hangs (Once in 4-5 attempts).. I need to hard reset my system to get back to working state.. Are there any fix for this?
[05:36] <coz_> slgma,  but the 4 just below the actual xscreensaver package you can install
[05:37] <dogarrhea1> hrm. the people in #openvpn seem to keep telling me "vpn != proxy. use something else to hide yoru ip"
[05:37] <studentz> xcOffee How about the other tty ?
[05:37] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: they are either wrong or you aren't explaining your intent properly. I suspect the latter.
[05:37] <din> dogarrhea1, *cough* tor *cough*
[05:37] <homer_> ok im not sure if moonlight installed right but im going to try my net flix and see what happens
[05:37] <din> i'll leave it at that
[05:38] <dogarrhea1> din, need static
[05:38] <dogarrhea1> if it bounces around..
[05:38] <din> you need to hide behind a static ip?
[05:38] <slgma> thanks coz_
[05:38] <coz_> slgma,  no problem
[05:38] <slgma> xscreensaver wont interfere with my current gnome-screensaver coz_?
[05:38] <dogarrhea1> yep din. that's the requirement
[05:38] <din> ssh tunnel it then man
[05:38] <Kevin`> you are aware that hiding behind a static ip will make you 100% identifiable, right?
[05:38] <dogarrhea1> temporary
[05:38] <coz_> slgma,  well it wont work on ubuntu well unless you jump through a few hoops
[05:38] <Kevin`> I assume that doesn't matter to your intended use
[05:38] <din> Kevin`, *nod*
[05:39] <coz_> slgma,   I gave up last year on it however I do prefer xscreensaver over gnome-screensaver
[05:39] <dogarrhea1> it does not kevin`
[05:39] <slgma> what about the rss-xscreensaver
[05:39] <slgma> is that any good?
[05:39] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: btw, openvpn actually has a built-in option for this kind of use, redirect-gateway
[05:39] <xc0ffee> studentz: Same is the problem with rest of the tty..
[05:40] <dogarrhea1> thanks Kevin` i will look at this option on my client
[05:40] <coz_> slgma,  I have no idea about that
[05:40] <homer_> ok no Luck with moon light
[05:41] <homer_> any other ideas to get net flix  work on ubuntu?
[05:42] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: btw, your isp cannot man-in-the-middle the secure side of ebay
[05:42] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: a random government can in theory though
[05:42] <slgma> coz_ most of them say they arent installed
[05:42] <slgma> how do i fix that
[05:42] <coz_> slgma,  mmm  hold on
[05:43] <dogarrhea1> ISP controlled by gov?
[05:43] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: the wonders of modern cryptography :) (the goverment would do it via social means, not technical, btw. although some may be able to do both)
[05:44] <dogarrhea1> quantum computing can do it i hear.
[05:44] <Kevin`> all they have to do is ask a CA for a valid certificate for ebay.com
[05:44] <dogarrhea1> P=NP does not practically matter when they have thsoe machines
[05:44] <Kevin`> ask=order
[05:44] <studentz> xcOffee Which video card, driver  and  resolution are you using?
[05:45] <coz_> slgma,  close gnome-screensaver and open a terminal and type   gnome-screensaver-preferences
[05:45] <Kevin`> dogarrhea1: http://xkcd.com/343/
[05:45] <digitalstimulus> ZykoticK9, yep, the fix worked.  The first link from a "plymouth nvidia" search has some directions which worked, but the script link found in that article works much better
[05:45] <xc0ffee> studentz: Let me find them out..
[05:45] <coz_> slgma,   when that opens  try to start one of the new screensavers and pastebin.com the readout and give us the link
[05:45] <kish> http://gist.github.com/701488
[05:45] <kish> xorg doesnt find devices it seems
[05:45] <kish> ran nvidia-xconfig, it just created a pretty xorg.conf
[05:45] <kish> but x does not load with it
[05:45] <kish> is 'no devices' a fatal problem?
[05:45] <FloodBot4> kish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:45] <FloodBot2> kish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:45] <slgma> none of the new screensavers show up in that coz_
[05:46] <coz_> slgma,  mmm
[05:46] <slgma> i can get the xscreensaver config to load up just fine
[05:46] <slgma> it just says some arent installed
[05:46] <ZykoticK9> digitalstimulus, nice, glad you fixed it
[05:46] <coz_> slgma,  and do the extra screensavers load in xscreensaver?
[05:46] <slgma> they are in the list, but when i click on them it says they arent installed
[05:46] <coz_> slgma,  is this xscreensaver or   gnome-screensaver
[05:47] <slgma> xscreensaver
[05:47] <slgma> it shows the gnome ones
[05:47] <digitalstimulus> ZykoticK9, it literally takes seconds to fix if you want to fix yours :)
[05:47] <slgma> plus more
[05:47] <slgma> but the additional ones say they arent installed
[05:47] <coz_> slgma,  ok open system/preferences/screensaver instead
[05:47] <homer_> black shirt i just figured out you were talking to me so if you want to talk im there
[05:47] <slgma> thats what i opened coz_....
[05:47] <slgma> theres 2 in there
[05:47] <coz_> slgma,  oh ok that is  gnome-screensaver
[05:47] <slgma> one is xscreensaver
[05:47] <slgma> one is gnomescreensaver
[05:47] <coz_> slgma,  oh ok
[05:47] <slgma> no, theres 2
[05:48] <coz_> slgma,   I would uninstall xscreensaver and test again
[05:48] <slgma> test what?
[05:48] <slgma> it had problems killing gnome-screensaver daemon
[05:48] <slgma> to start its own
[05:48] <slgma> perhaps thats the problem
[05:48] <spacebug-> is there a way to tell if a wlan is wep or wpa/wpa2 encrypted?
[05:48] <coz_> slgma,  test if the new screensavers show up in gonme-screensaver-properties
[05:49] <slgma> i think i fixed it but iinstalling other xscreensver stuff
[05:49] <slgma> from synaptic
[05:49] <slgma> cuz now most are working
[05:49] <coz_> slgma,  sudo apt-get autoremove --purge xscreensaver
[05:49] <spacebug-> I thought I saw kde's network thing list the encryptiopn type but not in gnome/ubuntu
[05:49] <pdg1> hello hello
[05:49] <snakesqzns> I'm having issues with opengl and audio stuttering on ubuntu 10.10.  I've tried various ATI drivers, different kernel versions (2.6.36 improved thing *slightly*).  You can see a video of my opengl stuttering here: http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8054/adf.mp4
[05:49] <slgma> it gives me an error saying
[05:49] <slgma> the xscreensaver daemon did not start properly
[05:49] <slgma> please checkj $Path and permissions
[05:49] <slgma> should i gksu it?
[05:50] <coz_> slgma,  no  completely uninstall it  ...go to synaptic  hit search and type in xscreensaver  and remove it completely
[05:51] <coz_> slgma,  gnome has completely screwed up the ability to casually install xscreensaver for some odd reason quite a while ago...
[05:51] <coz_> slgma,   there may be ways to work around that but I have not attempted it for several years
[05:51] <coz_> slgma,  so just remove it completely and use gnome-screensaver
[05:51] <slgma> ok so you want me to completely remove xscreensaver then
[05:51] <slgma> ok
[05:51] <coz_> slgma,  yes
[05:51] <slgma> k done
[05:52] <slgma> oh wow
[05:52] <slgma> gnome-screensaver has a bunch of new ones now
[05:52] <dogarrhea1> hrm. so redirect-gateway will break if my client ip is changed for openvpn
[05:52] <pdg1> I'm starting to go crazy from using windows on my new netbook... but i can't seem to find out if/where my recovery partition is. is there a standard drive letter that it's stored in?
[05:53] <Raikia> is xscreensaver bad? i installed it today
[05:53] <coz_> slgma,  do they work?
[05:53] <slgma> yes
[05:53] <slgma> awesome
[05:53] <slgma> are there anymore than these?
[05:53] <slgma> although im greatful for the much bigger selection
[05:53] <coz_> Raikia,   no its not bad its just that gnome has made it near impossible to casually install it as you did ...
[05:54] <coz_> Raikia,  I am sure there are workarounds for it to work properly  on gnome but I have not ateempted it in several  years
[05:54] <coz_> I dont use screensavers except to use them as desktop backgrounds occasionally
[05:54] <homer_> Does any one know if blackshirt is still in the room?
[05:54] <coz_> homer_,   he is
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> homer_: s/he isn't. the nick doesn't complete
[05:54] <coz_> homer_,  he may not be at his system at the moment however
[05:54] <slgma> so apparently gnomescreensaver removed the purpose of having the xscreensaver daemon
[05:54] <slgma> as it supports them both now?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> ok s/he is
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> my bad
[05:55] <Raikia> slgma, im trying to uninstall it, but Synaptic package manager says "ubuntu-desktop" will be installed too....and that sounds bad
[05:55] <homer_> i just figured out he or she was trying to talk to me  but cant reach him
[05:55] <studentz> pdg1 Which OS are you now?
[05:55] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  i was getting worried because it did complete here :)
[05:55] <homer_> thanks every one
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> coz_: yeah had to type a few more letters :)
[05:55] <coz_> :)
[05:55] <xc0ffee> studentz: I have Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express integrated graphics card
[05:55] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  darn tab key :)
[05:55] <homer_> :-)
[05:56] <xc0ffee> studentz: I have Dell 20" monitor with 1680x1050 resolution
[05:56] <pdg1> studentz: , win7
[05:56] <pdg1> studentz: , win7 starter :(
[05:57] <homer_> looks like he or she no longer wishes to talk to me
[05:57] <aeMaeth> you can't see the two partitions using the disk manager?
[05:57] <homer_> oh well i tried
[05:58] <studentz> xcOffee Are you using VESA  or any other proprietary driver ?
[05:58] <slgma> thanks again coz_
[05:59] <slgma> alot of these are fuckin awesome
[05:59] <homer_> join whinehq
[05:59] <slgma> oh sorry for cussing, theres children in here
[05:59] <coz_> slgma,  no problem :)
[05:59] <homer_> opps
[05:59] <h00k> !language
[05:59] <slgma> i already apoligized h00k
[05:59] <xc0ffee> studentz: I am still trying to figure out what driver is used.. How could I find the driver?
[05:59] <slgma> shut the fudge up
[05:59] <coz_> slgma,  oops  actually you meant to say " some of these are gosh darn nifty"  this is a family channel :)
[05:59] <bazhang> slgma, watch the attitude
[05:59] <slgma> bazhang
[05:59] <slgma> !attitude
[06:00] <slgma> there i beat you to it
[06:00] <slgma> you asstard
[06:00] <FloodBot4> slgma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <pdg1> i noticed that it has 4 partitions... all 4 say primary partition
[06:00] <slgma> thanks
[06:00] <slgma> i hope you feel better, i know i do
[06:01] <studentz> pdg1 sorry I cannot help you I only have XP version. I guess you should try to boot from windows in  text mode and start from there in a safe graphic mode.
[06:01] <pdg1> and i have no idea what an EFI partition is... it sounds important
[06:02] <pdg1> studentz : well i can boot to Ubuntu from usb no problem... and i can install no problem... but i want to dual boot and i'm not sure what any of the partitions hold
[06:03] <ilazy> 大家好。utf8?
[06:03] <h00k> !cn | ilazy
[06:03] <studentz> xcOffe install sysinfo from synaptic
[06:03] <ilazy> http://sourceforge.net/projects/systemrescuecd/ 1.6.3已经支持btrfs了
[06:04] <pdg1> studentz : and an efi partition sounds pretty important according to the end all source of knowledge that is wikipedia
[06:04] <ilazy> h00k: 怎么了？
[06:04] <nolan_> EFI is the newer version of bios
[06:04] <nolan_> it's a way for an OS to interact with firmware
[06:05] <hariom> How to get to the discussion running on Jabber? What should I do to connect with one of the discussions? Do I need jabber client like IRC client?
[06:05] <studentz> pdg1 from Ubuntu Usb go system gparted. It will show you your hd and partitions
[06:06] <pdg1> ?
[06:06] <pdg1> okay
[06:06] <Jordan_U> pdg1: Where are you seeing that you have an EFI partition? While not unheard of it's odd for a computer to come shipped with windows booting via EFI.
[06:06] <pdg1> nolan_ : so i should nevver have to worry about formatting over my efi partition?
[06:07] <xc0ffee> studentz: Clicking 'system' in sysinfo is crashing!! Rest of the tabs doesn't show the driver!
[06:07] <pdg1> Jordan_U : computer management
[06:07] <liluo> join #ubuntu-cn
[06:08] <nolan_> pdg1 : it sounds like Jordan might know more I just logged in what exactly are you trying to accomplish / worried about
[06:08] <Jordan_U> pdg1: If you're using EFI you're probably also using GPT, which means there is no need for the hack that is "extended" and "logical" partitions. You can have as many partitions as you want.
[06:08] <studentz> xcOffee sysinf  Hardware Graphic card
[06:09] <pdg1> Jordan_U : i'll tell you what i'm using.. i just got a asus T101MT eeepc
[06:10] <pdg1> would these things have anything to do with something called "boot booster"?
[06:10] <pdg1> i tried to find out more about what boot booster was... but the manual it came with was pathetic
[06:12] <xc0ffee> studentz: SysInfo->Hardware->Graphics card shows just this, "VGA compatible controller -> Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Dell Device 0220
[06:12] <sahilsk> Greetings. I can't find maximize,minimze ,close icons on the window border. Also,i find it hard to
[06:12] <roadrash1965> Hello everybody. Question. When I boot to a live CD, as it's booting, for a brief moment I see a ghost of My Desktop background. Does this sound like a video card going bad?
[06:12] <sahilsk> move the window around. i try metacity --replace and it bring those back, but changes are not persistent. When i close terminal ,all changes revert back. any help would be great.
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> xc0ffee: lspci | grep -i vga   would have shown you that too
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> sahilsk: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[06:13] <imgx64> I'm using the "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" gnome-applet widget to change the CPU frequency, but it changes back to Ondemand on restart. How can I make it persistent?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> imgx64: how do you make the switch manually each time?
[06:14] <nolan_> pdg1: EFI does boot faster than bios... it's a newer type of firmware standard... I'm assuming that an EFI partition is a partition meant to take advantages of the benefits of this system.  honestly though idk much about it I'd google it lol
[06:14] <xc0ffee> ActionParsnip: studentz: lspci | grep -i vga shows "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)"
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> xc0ffee: easier isn't it :)
[06:15] <sahilsk> ActionParsnip: I already did that. And it does bring my desktop back to normal. But when i close the terminal, all changes revert back . http://www.pasteall.org/16873
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> sahilsk: you run it in the ALT+F2 dialogue, not a terminal
[06:16] <sahilsk> oops
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> sahilsk: i never mentioned a terminal to you did I?
[06:16] <pdg1> nolan_ : i'm still not entirely sure what efi is. even after your explanation and Jordan_U's but my big fear is that if i install ubuntu and the grub boot loader... i will never see the win7 that i appearantly payed for with my laptop ever again
[06:16] <sahilsk> aah, thanks. But ActionParsnip alt+f2 not working for me.
[06:17] <kriscolt> has anyone had any problems with dual monitor support with intel i945?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> sahilsk: your OS is having issues with compiz but metacity will work (but disables effects). You can hunt around for guides to try and get them back, you can can press ALT+F2 and run: compiz --replace    to test if the setting was good
[06:17] <irreverant> I have a question about using the startup disk creator.
[06:17] <pdg1> sahilsk : sounds funny and i wasn't part of the convo earlier... but do you happen to have a function lock on your keyboard?
[06:18] <nolan_> pdg1: ok gotcha... let me look into it for a sec
[06:18] <Jordan_U> pdg1: Ok. I can't find out much information about how EFI is setup on the T101MT eeepc, at this point I'm not even sure if it uses EFI or not. Can you boot an Ubuntu LiveCD and pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> sahilsk: then run ccsm (install compizconfig-settings-manager if the command fails) and check the gnome compatibility stuffs
[06:18] <irreverant> If I use a current flash drive that I have which does have data; will the startup disk creator wipe that data? or write to the unused area of the partition?
[06:18] <sahilsk> ActionParsnip: i don't have ccsm installed.
[06:19] <pdg1> Jordan_U: ... i suppose i could do that... i guess ::p
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> sahilsk: get it in, you can use terminal to install or software-centre
[06:20] <homer_> Good night every one.
[06:21] <xc0ffee_> studentz: Had to restart my system as it froze again trying to navigate to tty console.. Missed the chat message by you if any..
[06:21] <irreverant> Does using the startup disk creator in Ubuntu erase all data on a flash drive before writing to it? or does it write information to the remaining used space?
[06:21] <coz_> homer_,  nite guy
[06:21] <sahilsk> ActionParsnip: ok, done installing.
[06:21] <xc0ffee_> stydentz: BTW, I am using 64 but version of Ubuntu.. but I remember seeing the same issue even in 32 bit version
[06:21] <irreverant> thats remaining unused space.
[06:21] <homer_> night coz_
[06:22] <roadrash1965> Question. When I boot to a live CD, as it's booting, for a brief moment I see a ghost of My Desktop background. Does this sound like a video card going bad?
[06:22] <coz_> roadrash1965,  it sounds odd... not sure it is video card going bad  although that would be my first guess
[06:23] <jflores> someone know how to configure Gnome Activity Journal
[06:23] <roadrash1965> coz: that's what I thought. it is an older machine. Maybe its tie for an upgrade
[06:24] <Jordan_U> roadrash1965: I've seen that happen with perfectly good cards (at least, good as far as I knew  with no other problems).
[06:24] <studentz> xc0ffee read the previous post of ActionParsnip.
[06:24] <irreverant> coz_: Does using the startup disk creator in Ubuntu erase all data on a flash drive before writing to it? or does it write information to the remaining used space?
[06:24] <coz_> roadrash1965,  it could be a combination of  monitor / video as well
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> irreverant: depends on what you tell it, if you resize the partition to free up space you can have the data and the boot, it wont install to the USB inline, it needs its own partition
[06:25] <coz_> irreverant,  last I tried I believe it erases the data  but I have only used this twice so I may not be the best person to ask
[06:25] <Jordan_U> coz_: It does not (unless you specifically ask it to). It uses the free space on the existing filesystem.
[06:25] <studentz> xc0ffee cli is more versatile than GUI.
[06:25] <coz_> Jordan_U,  ah ok
[06:25] <coz_> Jordan_U,  I havent used it frequently enough to remember
[06:25] <Jordan_U> irreverant: ^^
[06:26] <nolan_> pdg1: just putting this out there but if you have enough drive space somewhere you might want to just DD the drive try it and DD it back if it doesn't work... although this might take a bit longer its like 99.99999% safe
[06:26] <coz_> Jordan_U,  :)  I agree
[06:26] <imgx64> I'm using the "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor" gnome-applet widget to change the CPU frequency, but it changes back to Ondemand on restart. How can I make it persistent?
[06:26] <xc0ffee> studentz: Does IRC logs gets saved? I lost previous conversation, as I had to reboot my system
[06:27] <bazhang> !1984 | xc0ffee
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> imgx64: add whatever command / app to your startup
[06:28] <Geo|Android> Why are the window things different. And why is it purple :(
[06:28] <Jordan_U> nolan_: pdg1 left (assumingly to boot an Ubuntu liveCD and come back).
[06:28] <Geo|Android> I disapprove.
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Geo|Android: do you mean the decorators?
[06:28] <sysdoc> lol
[06:28] <imgx64> ActionParsnip: It's a gnome-panel widget. It runs automatically, but the CPU frequency reverts to "Ondemand" on restart.
[06:28] <Geo|Android> Lol I just booted into 10.04 from a livecd
[06:29] <h00k> !controls | Geo|Android
[06:29] <studentz> pdg1 I told you got boot USB and let anybody guess for you
[06:29] <xc0ffee> studentz: Will changing the visual effects to 'None' help?
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> imgx64: look at switches for the applet starting, you may be able to set its startup state somehow
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Geo|Android: Linux distros are very themable, just change the theme
[06:30] <Geo|Android> I know :P
[06:30] <Geo|Android> Thanks for the links tho.
[06:31] <studentz> xcOffe try to get console from login , next try to switch btw tty from there. and finally type  startx
[06:31] <hasek79> is there a terminal cmd to find out my ip address?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> hasek79: ifconfig
[06:32] <Geo|Android> Can you not install chrome to ubuntu? What is chromium and how is it different?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> hasek79: for your WAN IP use: wget -q -O - http://ip.keithscode.com
[06:33] <raywang> Hi anyone knows what video and audio formats that Ubuntu supports?
[06:33] <nolan_> Geo|Android: I use chrome in ubuntu just google chrome for linux
[06:33] <irreverant> Question: I attend a school that doesnt let you logon to the wireless network with out a firewall (software) and antivirus installed. Does anyone know of any software I may use that will fulfill these requirements?
[06:33] <Geo|Android> Ok thanks.
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | raywang
[06:33] <xc0ffee_> studentz: what run level should I enter to login from terminal?
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> raywang: all basically :)
[06:33] <raywang> ok
[06:33] <raywang> thanks ActionParsnip :)
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> xc0ffee_: runlevels don't mean anything in ubuntu
[06:34] <Geo|Android> Tell them your antivirus is linux
[06:34] <Guest94776> ok decided to come back
[06:34] <coz_> 1:30 am I am off to bed...night all...do well. share what you know and brush your teeth :)
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> xc0ffee_: to login at a text propt add the boot option: text   and the graphical login screen will not load
[06:35] <xc0ffee> ActionParsnip: Where should I add that? grub option?
[06:35] <irreverant> ActionParsnip: so at prompt if you start ubuntu in command line you dont need to tell it init 5
[06:35] <irreverant> or define what runlevel you want; even if you want to start xwindows?
[06:35] <Guest94776> how do i change my nick back to homer_
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> xc0ffee: in /etc/default/grub in the quotes next to: quiet splash  then run; sudo update-grub
[06:35] <h00k> Guest94776: /nick homer_
[06:35] <irreverant> you type /nick homer
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> !runlevel | irreverant
[06:36] <homer_> thank you
[06:36] <hasek79> thank you
[06:36] <shawnboy> Is there a way to open up a hung ssh session that got broken? I wasn't using screen.  :(
[06:37] <irreverant> ActionParsnip: Ah! did not know that, Im new to ubuntu and sort of new to linux. its funny the things i do know versus the things i dont.
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> irreverant: every day is a school day :D
[06:37] <pdg1> Jordan_U: so what was that command you wanted me to run again?
[06:37] <homer_> h
[06:37] <shawnboy> now when I try to ssh into that machine it says no route to host.
[06:38] <raywang> ActionParsnip, well, thank you, but I probably need a list that ubuntu supports out of box, not configured system. :-)
[06:38] <Jordan_U> pdg1: "sudo blkid".
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | raywang
[06:39] <irreverant> Jordan_U: I got a question for you.
[06:39] <homer_> help
[06:39] <nolan_> irreverant: you should probabaly talk to your IT department for special consideration on the antivirus thing although for firewall you should check hout "ufw"
[06:39] <raywang> ActionParsnip,  it's hardware information :)
[06:40] <nolan_> *check out
[06:40] <pdg1> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/532814/
[06:41] <irreverant> nolan_: Thank you, yes I spoke with my help desk and got a list of a.v. that is supported; just wanted a recommendation. Not to mention the people their are not linux friendly, their mac fanboys; Ironic I know.
[06:41] <homer_> trying to re change my nick by using /nick Derek but does not work
[06:42] <skataria> how to start/stop any service at boot time like chkconfig command in linux
[06:42] <yysoft_mays> hi
[06:42] <homer_> can you only change you nick once?
[06:42] <homer_> hi
[06:42] <maco> skataria: there's no command line app for it yet, but jobs-admin is a gui app for setting up what jobs should run
[06:42] <pdg1> Jordan_U: interesting?
[06:42] <Jordan_U> pdg1: What is the output of "sudo grub-probe -t partmap -d /dev/sda1"?
[06:42] <nolan_> irreverant: lol yeah I'm a student worker at a campus IT services and I'm like one of 3 people that's every used ubuntu
[06:43] <shawnboy> Is it not advisable to run end-of-life release like Jaunty? If so, what should I run if the newer supported releases don't work well on my old notebook?
[06:43] <yysoft_mays> :) this is my fist irc chat
[06:43] <nolan_> irreverant: at least in the helpdesk area
[06:43] <homer_> yy soft this is only my second
[06:43] <yysoft_mays> anybody know how to join an chinese ubuntu channel?
[06:43] <irreverant> nolan_: yeah there are differences in flavor i come from rhel/fedora/ and mandrake before mandriva.
[06:44] <homer_> sorry idont
[06:44] <irreverant> nolan_: it took me a while to pick up on apt-get over yum install
[06:44] <yysoft_mays> ok ,thank you, I'll try myself  :)
[06:44] <homer_> yy soft where are you from?
[06:44] <qwebirc8741> press here #ubuntu-cn
[06:45] <yysoft_mays> #ubuntu -cn
[06:45] <roymerritt> Q: anyone know how to fix multi-monitor support on dell laptops running i945 ?
[06:45] <shawnboy> is this the ubuntu channel?
[06:45] <homer_> -cn ?
[06:45] <h00k> !topic | shawnboy
[06:45] <homer_> china?
[06:45] <pdg1> Jordan_U: msdos
[06:45] <homer_> yysoft
[06:45] <homer_> ?
[06:45] <nolan_> irreverant: lol yeah it can be a pain to switch flavors sometimes... Does your IT services require any antivirus for mac?
[06:46] <shawnboy> knock knock
[06:46] <irreverant> nolan_: I got another question, Im trying to install ubuntu off a usb drive but I have a flash drive with info on it I cant migrate, Im thinking about using partition magic to resize the partition table. Then maybe i could use the startup disk creator to use that raw disk space for the startup disk. but im unsure if it functions similar to fdsk.
[06:46] <homer_> who is there?
[06:46] <shawnboy> nacho
[06:46] <sandGorgon> anyone know if I buy a Windows 7 home premium family pack (3 PCs), can I use it in my workplace ?
[06:47] <homer_> nacho CHeese?
[06:47] <Madpilot> sandGorgon, this is not ##windows
[06:47] <irreverant> nolan_: ironically I dont believe they do, the other thing is that they also dont require it for a patch connection.
[06:47] <Bing0> Hi.  I am looking for an app that allows users(with login) to upload/download files via a website with Ubuntu as the server...any suggestions?
[06:47] <shawnboy> it's the best I could come up with. :)
[06:47] <sandGorgon> Madpilot, crap... sorry
[06:47] <homer_> good enough
[06:48] <shawnboy> well, goodnight all.
[06:48] <Jordan_U> pdg1: That's unfortunate. Since you aren't using GPT, and the manufacturer of your computer configured it with 4 primary partitions, it's going to be hard to install Ubuntu without losing the ability to user your recovery partition.
[06:48] <arvind_khadri> Bing0, ubuntuone ?
[06:48] <homer_> good night
[06:48] <roymerritt> !help
[06:48] <Bing0> arvind_khadri, can i roll my own, so to speak with ubuntu one?
[06:48] <Bing0> as in, i host the server and file locations?
[06:48] <nolan_> irreverant: yeah that's pretty typical... i'd just argue that it's also a unix like OS and should be exempt from antivirus as well... try to talk to a full time staff person if the students bs you
[06:48] <qwebirc8741> you can set your ubuntu as a FTP server
[06:49] <nolan_> irreverant: as for your other question... hold on one second and let me check something
[06:49] <Bing0> qwebirc8741, this is to make it easy for end users tho.. ftp is an option id rather not explore
[06:49] <arvind_khadri> Bing0, I am not sure about ubuntu one, but I re-read your question, you are looking at an ftp server
[06:49] <Bing0> arvind_khadri, ftp would, do but think of something like yousendit.com or dropbox
[06:49] <Bing0> just wondering if there is an app out there for linux world
[06:50] <allu2> Bing0: app for dropbox ?
[06:50] <allu2> :S
[06:50] <arvind_khadri> Bing0, dropbox is built on linux
[06:50] <arvind_khadri> !ubuntuone | Bing0
[06:50] <itsux2b> so whats does 10.10 have that 10.04 doesn't?
[06:50] <kriscolt> !i945
[06:50] <Bing0> i know, but say i want a web front end on my server.... with a upload/download via http and files are on my serer..not the cloud
[06:50] <allu2> and why ftp would be so hard? i mean if its just to share files from your comp to others they can use firefox to browse ftp
[06:51] <homer_> any one know of site that explains the basics of ubuntu in plain language?
[06:51] <Bing0> allu2, true.. ill consider it
[06:51] <Bing0> i just though i'd ask in here if there was a project that does what i describe for private use is all . :)
[06:51] <CRU_> Wondered if someone can help me....my streaming video on full screen is very jumpy (hulu, youtube), but saved video plays fine (very clear and not jumpy)...any idea how to fix this (not my internet connection, on windows computer all video is great)
[06:51] <homer_> *of a site
[06:51] <Bing0> homer_, there is a .pdf called ubuntu kung fu..free, google around for it
[06:52] <Bing0> CRU_, vertical sync?
[06:52] <nolan_> irreverant: I'm pretty sure startup disk creator needs to erase the whole disk... but you could probabaly put the info on your hard drive then make sure when you make the flashdrive to use the stored in reserve space option to create some space to put the files.  then you could boot to the live OS save the files from the hard drive to the flashdrive in documents... reboot to make sure it suck the go ahead with the install
[06:52] <CRU_> Bing0: what does that mean (I'm a noob to ubuntu...this is my first system)
[06:52] <homer_> thanks Bingo
[06:52] <itsux2b> whats new in 10.10?
[06:53] <tecnico> Bing0: http://fak3r.com/2009/09/14/howto-build-your-own-open-source-dropbox-clone/
[06:53] <nolan_> irreverant: *sure it stuck then go
[06:53] <Bing0> homer_, http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/ubuntukungfu.html
[06:53] <Bing0> tecnico, thanks . :)
[06:53] <Godfiend> Hello wonderful people of #ubuntu! I'm having trouble with my TiMidity++ ALSA midi emulation package in Hardy - it won't install! Any ideas?
[06:54] <irreverant> nolan_: jflores had mentioned i could store the fiels on the live usb os. its actually useful to know that it can be accomplished that way, but i think ill just get a new 3 gb flash drive.
[06:54] <pdg1> Jordan_U: i'm guessing that was the efi?
[06:54] <anirudhr> Hi, I want a good IDE (not necessarily open source, but necessarily free) for Ubuntu that supports C, C++, and hopefully BASH, Ruby and Python. Any suggestions? :)
[06:54] <tecnico> Bing0: and there's another really awesome project on sourceforge to build your own cloud and has clients for MAc, Iphone and Android as well..  I just cna't remember the name. I remember I found it through some article in linuxmag
[06:55] <greppy> anirudhr: Eclipse I think.
[06:55] <tecnico> Bing0: so, search linuxmag for terms like "your own cloud" or something similar
[06:55] <yysoft_mays> to anirudhr,  you try eclipse
[06:55] <Godfiend> anirudhr: I use Eclipse for all my c/c++/java needs; they MIGHT support the others, but it's great for C
[06:55] <Bing0> ok thanks
[06:55] <Bing0> tecnico, the link you sent...the commenters have suggestions too :)
[06:55] <Jordan_U> pdg1: I don't think you're using EFI.
[06:56] <itsux2b> i have 10.04. any reason to go to 10.10
[06:56] <itsux2b> ?
[06:56] <nolan_> irreverant: ok cool glad you've got a solution... i'm out for the night so I'll ttyl
[06:56] <pdg1> Jordan_U: I'm confused what you had me do :p
[06:56] <irreverant> nolan_: sounds good thanks.
[06:56] <pdg1> lol
[06:56] <allu2> Laptop: RAM:249288k CPU:731 , ubuntu or xubuntu?
[06:57] <Jordan_U> pdg1: I had you run one command to give some information about your partitions, and another to tell what type of partition table you're using.
[06:58] <wcs> hi folks :D
[06:58] <tecnico> Bing0: I found it!  http://www.tonido.com/
[06:58] <itsux2b> the current version of ubuntu is 10.10?
[06:58] <ftg2> anirudhr: KDevelop is alright
[06:58] <allu2> itsux2b: yeah
[06:58] <itsux2b> previous was 10.04
[06:59] <itsux2b> ?
[06:59] <itsux2b> and whats new in 10.10?
[06:59] <CRU_> Bing0: How would I fix the vertical sync for the video?
[07:01] <Bing0> CRU_, what vid card you using?
[07:01] <Bing0> tecnico,  thanks again
[07:01] <CRU_> Bing0: Nvidia geforce 210
[07:02] <Bing0> CRU_, under system preferences there is an x something for nvidia
[07:02] <Bing0> i dont have nvidia on this pc
[07:02] <Bing0> anyway, they dont call it vertical sync, but check all the vertical checkboxes
[07:03] <Bing0> write down what you checked incase you need to undo them
[07:03] <pdg1> Jordan_U: so... if i'm installing onto HDD will i run into issues with dual booting and grub?
[07:03] <Bing0> CRU_, are you running compiz?
[07:03] <anirudhr> ftg2, Godfiend, greppy Thanks, will tyr your suggestions.
[07:03] <CRU_> bing0: no...don't know what it is .
[07:04] <Bing0> ok CRU_ well look in the nvidia settings
[07:05] <CRU_> Bing0: I checked it inside opengl...that's the only one unchecked.  I opened a video but still very jumpy.  Should I restart?
[07:05] <Bing0> CRU_, restart nah.. you can logout and relogin tho
[07:05] <qwebirc8741> CUR_,have you installed the Decoder
[07:06] <imgx64> How can I remove the envelope icon near the clock? (this: http://imagebin.org/123456 )
[07:06] <CRU_> qwbirc8741: not sure what the Decoder is (I installed the graphics card correctly, if that's what you are referring to)
[07:06] <aeMaeth> every other reboot my volume icon does nothing about the actual volume
[07:08] <CRU_> Bing0: relogged in with OpenGL but still very very jumpy on video. actually seems a little worst after clicking the OpenGL box
[07:08] <CRU_> Bing0: *the vsync option in OpenGL is what I mean
[07:08] <qwebirc8741> CUE_,so sorry - -my english is to pool to explain my ideas
[07:08] <CaptSmokey6> is there an app that will allow me to easily create web pages without html knowledge?
[07:10] <Bing0> CRU_, you have the restricted extras installed?
[07:10] <pdg1> CaptSmokey6: yes... google pages
[07:10] <pdg1> :p?
[07:10] <ysk> mate i need help i have compiz 0.9 i want to remove it and i want to install compiz 0.8
[07:10] <ysk> plz guide me how could i work on it
[07:10] <CaptSmokey6> pdg1: I have a .com domain, google pages does not satisfy me
[07:11] <CRU_> Bing0: No...should I install them?
[07:11] <qwebirc8741> CaptSmokey6>you can also use the openoffice
[07:11] <CRU_> Bing0: (unless they came by default in the latest ubuntu addition)
[07:11] <qwebirc8741> openoffice writer can help you
[07:11] <CaptSmokey6> qwevirc8741: does that require html knowledge?
[07:12] <qwebirc8741> no
[07:12] <CaptSmokey6> i don't know anything about html
[07:12] <greppy> CaptSmokey6: CaptSmokey6 kompozer
[07:12] <CaptSmokey6> greepy: i tried that, but it wouldn't let me move the images around and i find it hard to use
[07:12] <qwebirc8741> just save the worddocument as a html
[07:14] <itsux2b> all wordprocessors have html option
[07:14] <Bing0> CRU_, it can't hurt
[07:14] <Bing0> i have to go, someone in here might be able to help ya
[07:14] <Bing0> i am at work
[07:14] <qwebirc8741> you can try it ,open a openofficewriter file ,then save it as a html file
[07:15] <najwa> Bing0: what your problem ?
[07:15] <CaptSmokey6> when i was on windows, i was using antenna web design studio. but i don't have windows anymore. i tried to run antenna web design studio under wine, but wine kept on crashing each time i tried to run antenna.
[07:15] <CRU_> najwa: I think he's referring to my problem: video online (youtube, hulu) are very jumpy for me...but when I play via my tv tuner...it's perfect
[07:16] <CRU_> not connections (vids work fine on my windows ocmputer...still have problem when wait for youtube to fully download video)
[07:16] <linusasus6> I'm actually downloading a driver for my ati mobility radeon hd 5470 graphic card but I have see the extension is an .run  how you install this?
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: chmod +x ./file; sudo ./file
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: change directory to the folder you downloaded to
[07:17] <saga_> which is the best screencasting software for ubuntu?
[07:17] <itsux2b> whats new in 10.10?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> saga_: theres no single best app for anything
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> itsux2b: http://brizoma.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/whats-new-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat/
[07:18] <pdg1> CaptSmokey6: your a hard person to please... but have you tried bluefish html editor?
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> saga_: theres xvidcap and recordmydesktop which I can think of quickly
[07:18] <CarlFK> saga_: I think kdenlive will do it all
[07:18] <CRU_> So, anyone have an idea on how to fix my choppy video?   It really stinks to not be able to watch any flash-related video without choppiness
[07:18] <CaptSmokey6> pdg1: i'm a newbie at web design and linux
 whats new in 10.10?you can find the answer at www.ubuntu.com
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> CRU_: make sure you only have 1 flash plugin installed
[07:20] <pdg1> CaptSmokey6: i haven't really tried bluefish but I'll see if i can find something else you might like
[07:20] <CarlFK> when I run alsamixer, the volume cuts out when I drop below 44. 45-100 it turns up/down as expected.  any idea why I can't fade it all the way down?
[07:20] <CRU_> ACtionParsnip: Where would I check that?
[07:20] <linusasus6> I have try it dont even work
[07:21] <itsux2b> but will ubuntu.com tell me as a 10.04 why i should go to 10.10?
[07:21] <D-Punch> hey all!  how can i have my computer ask me weather  i want to boot windows xp off of a sata drive OR ubuntu off of my EIDE drive?
[07:21] <itsux2b> *10.04 user
[07:21] <irreverant> question: I have an issue installing gufw was installeed im using debian package installer but im not locating it on the applications menu.
[07:21] <imgx64> CaptSmokey6: There are two kinds of HTML WYSIWYG editors: 1- Ones that let you do all sorts of things like placing images at arbitary places. These are easy to use buy produce horrible, inefficient, invalid(according to W3C), un-human-readable HTML. Dreamweaver is an example. 2- Ones that try to create better HTML code. These are harder to use because of limitations of HTML itself, and an understanding of HTML is required to understand why something is very
[07:21] <imgx64> hard to do. Kompozer is an example. I don't know anything of the first type that runs on Linux, but others might know one.
[07:22] <linusasus6> 10.04 is more stable for now than 10.10 if you want to upgrate the os I suggest you wait until 11.04
[07:22] <visserlabs> hey all :)
[07:22] <irreverant> What command can i use to determine if it was installed properly?
[07:23] <visserlabs> I've upgraded from 10.04 to to 10.10 and notice the main menu missing from some apps. can anyone point me in the right direction? (I've googled to no luck)
[07:23] <pdg1> CaptSmokey6: and i can say that even tho you might be a newbie now... keep at it because having linux skillz can be extremely usefull
[07:23] <jellow> irreverant: Run it?
[07:23] <CrypTom> Hi all, is there an easy way to tell (in a script) whether a system is using debian or whether ubuntu is installed?
[07:23] <CRU_> ActionParsnip: I have installed: flashpluin-installer, flashplugin-nonfree, and flashplugin-nonfree:extra sound
[07:23] <visserlabs> e.g. FileZilla and UltraEdit both are missing their main menu's :(
[07:23] <CaptSmokey6> pdg1: your right
[07:24] <imgx64> How can I remove the envelope icon near the clock? (this: http://imagebin.org/123456 )
[07:24] <qwebirc8741> imgx64,right click it
[07:25] <irreverant> jellow: ive tried
[07:25] <qwebirc8741> theres the tips
[07:25] <irreverant> jellow: the synaptic package manager says its installed but....
[07:25] <imgx64> qwebirc8741, that removes the whole indicator-applet, including sound, power, etc.
[07:26] <Geo|Android> True, it does.
[07:26] <jellow> irreverant: run sudo dpkg -L <package name> , then find the binary and execute it
[07:27] <jellow> irreverant: did you run it as root?
[07:27] <shawnboy> CAN someone please tell me if they get a basename error when doing an update-grub?
[07:27] <irreverant> let me try that.
[07:28] <Burner> I uh, got this computer from a friend, and I need to install Java. I read the installation guideline and it tells me to write a certain line, but not where or how to get to that point.
[07:28] <Burner> ;[
[07:28] <itsux2b> missing main menus in 10.10.. YIKES!?!
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: not here. Just finds the kernel then reports done
[07:28] <i_is_broke> same here.
[07:29] <visserlabs> yes, missing main menus in apps. itsux2b
[07:29] <visserlabs> :(
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> !partner | Burner
[07:29] <visserlabs> affects random apps., UltraEdit and FileZilla notably
[07:29] <itsux2b> i'm staying with 10.04
[07:29] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: could you please allow me to see your 05_debian file then?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: sure. Gimme a while
[07:30] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: ok. no prob. That's where basename is used and it always tells me "operand missing".
[07:30] <rijk> list
[07:30] <linusasus6> how to install the .run file please I have no sucess to install it
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: do you mean 05_debian_theme?
[07:30] <shawnboy> yes, ActionParsnip
[07:30] <Burner> ActionParsnip; I'm not sure what you just said to me. lol. Lemme reread it about 10 more times.
[07:31] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: just lazy / sleepy tonight and didn't type it out. sorry.
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: mark itas executable and run it in a terminal
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: I'm waay tired too
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: http://pastebin.com/buPC4V7m
[07:32] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: thanks! I'll go look.
[07:32] <linusasus6> ok I have mark it as an executable how  you run it in terminal now?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: use the cd command to (c)hange (d)irectory to where you downloaded to (case sensitive)
[07:34] <linusasus6> ?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: then run: chmod +x ./filename; sudo./filename ,and it will run. Change filename to the ACTUAL filename (case sensitive) of the file
[07:34] <Burner> I typed what you asked, ActionParsnip, not sure what to do now.
[07:35] <Burner> Thanks in advance, though.
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: so if you have the file in the Downloads folder, you will need to run: cd $HOME/Downloads
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> Burner: if you open software centre, you can enable the partner repo there. Its already add, just not enabled
[07:36] <irreverant> !seen jellow
[07:36] <ucenik03> se da vi ebam !
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> irreverant: nice :)
[07:37] <ucenik03> Fiu Fit !
[07:37] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: any reason you can think your pastebin isn't loading?
[07:37] <irreverant> ActionParsnip: well you know... wasnt sure if itd work but tried.
[07:37] <ucenik03> aloooo
[07:37] <ucenik03> ima nekoj
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: I typed it as my ssh client doesn't support copy. Let me retry
[07:38] <ucenik03> moreee
[07:38] <ucenik03> mamata
[07:38] <frold> I have a synology diskstation with a local IP 192.168.0.100 howto permentlig mount that drive to my desktop?
[07:39] <irreverant> jellow: ok, real basic, its been a while but do I always need to run this in terminal everytime i want to start avast? cd /usr/lib/avast4workstation/share/avast/desktop
[07:39] <ucenik03> prasaj ja majka ti
[07:39] <irreverant> sudo ./install-desktop-entries.sh install
[07:39] <frold> *permanently
[07:39] <imgx64> How can I remove the envelope icon near the clock? (this: http://imagebin.org/123456 )
[07:39] <linusasus6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/532834/
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: http://pastebin.com/c8zdDTEY
[07:40] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: ah, there we go. thank you a lot.
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> shawnboy: np
[07:41] <irreverant> jellow: nevermind figured it out.
[07:41] <linusasus6> so ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/532834/
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> imgx64: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470786
[07:42] <ucenik03> moree mamata da vi ja zaebam
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: that's great. In linux,no news is good news
[07:43] <ucenik03> where are you from
[07:43] <linusasus6> so what's next?
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: you don't get an 'ok' after every command, it'd be really redundant
[07:43] <dan86> Anyone know why gparted would report an entire disk as unallocated?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: sudo ./filename
[07:44] <ucenik03> A MOZE DA VI JA EBAM MAJKATA !
[07:44] <dan86> I did a little research, and found out my drive has a space conflict, gparted gives me an error about two partitions using the same space....
[07:44] <dudzic> siemano
[07:44] <jmate> Hey everyone, I posted one of my problems on ubuntu forums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1621991) and it has not gotten any traction. Is there some way I can improve the post?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> dan86: corrupted fat possibly
[07:44] <dudzic> kto jest kurwa z polski?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> !pl | dudzic
[07:44] <maco> dudzic: ucenik03 is macedonian, based on the ip
[07:44] <ucenik13> alooooooooooooooo
[07:44] <dan86> actionparsnip the space conflict is between my linux/swap partitions
[07:44] <ucenik03> kaj si be perica
[07:44] <ucenik03> ?
[07:44] <i5noc> dan86, i'll say it once: backup your data before playing with your partitions
[07:45] <ucenik13> da vi ebam mamata
[07:45] <irreverant> ah, feels to good to do some reading and figure things out on ubuntu.
[07:45] <i5noc> dan86, then backup your partition table!
[07:45] <ucenik03> i jas !
[07:45] <imgx64> ActionParsnip, thanks! The icon is gone.
[07:45] <dan86> i5noc, i'm well aware =)
[07:45] <ucenik13> dosta be dan
[07:45] <dudzic> are you fucking kidding me?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> imgx64: nice :)
[07:45] <ucenik13> yes i am
[07:45] <dan86> i5noc no partition utilities can alter my partition table
[07:45] <maco> dudzic: watch your language
[07:45] <ucenik01> sto vi e be
[07:45] <i5noc> dan86, awesome :-) you wouldnt believe how often i see it otherwise :P
[07:45] <ucenik01> pratete nastava
[07:45] <ucenik03> can i fuck your moms  ?
[07:45] <dudzic> cos ty kurwa powiedzial?
[07:45] <ucenik13> you fuckin retard asshole
[07:45] <i5noc> bah dan86
[07:45] <dan86> i5noc it's weird
[07:45] <entropy4> ucenik01 no
[07:45] <i5noc> surely you have a hex editor
[07:45] <dudzic> synek.. bo sobie inaczej porozmawiamy
[07:45] <ucenik01> can your moom suck my cock
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> ucenik03: abide by the channel rules please
[07:46] <ucenik13> dan86 where are you from?
[07:46] <dan86> Los angeles
[07:46] <dudzic> poland
[07:46] <linusasus6> thank now is installing
[07:46] <dudzic> cracow
[07:46] <elky> is that all of them?
[07:46] <i5noc> los angeles in the hizzy!
[07:46] <dudzic> cracow rulezz !
[07:46] <dan86> ucenik13 ?
[07:46] <maco> elky: well i didnt set ban...
[07:46] <ucenik03> is gone..
[07:46] <maco> elky: oh neither did you
[07:46] <Burner> I need like, a beginners guide. I'm someone who has never used Linux before, and I'm like wading in unfamiliar waters. Kinda confusing.
[07:46] <elky> lets try that
[07:46] <dudzic> WISŁA KRAKÓW PANY !
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> linusasus6: nice. The ./ bit tells the interpretter to use pwd to find the app rather than $PATH
[07:47] <dan86> "Warning: Can't have overlapping partitions"
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> !manual | Burner
[07:47] <jmate> Does someone mind taking a look at my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1621991 ?
[07:47] <dan86> "Warning: Can't have overlapping partitions" i5noc
[07:47] <i5noc> ya
[07:47] <dan86> no fun
[07:47] <i5noc> well
[07:47] <dan86> i5noc that's from gparted
[07:47] <i5noc> can you snif out where the data really is?
[07:48] <i5noc> what does fdisk and cfdisk have to say?
[07:48] <dan86> i have not lost any data
[07:48] <dan86> fdsisk -l shows nothing
[07:48] <dan86> returns me to the prompt
[07:48] <i5noc> as root?
[07:48] <jmate> Most recently, I tried creating an x config, but when I tested the config, I had a black screen with a cursor
[07:48] <dan86> unless i'm using it incorrectly
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> jmate: you've only waited 1 day. Patience is a virtue
[07:48] <jmate> On average, what is the turn around time?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> dan86: you could boot to live cd and resize to fix. I hope your backups are up to date
[07:49] <i5noc> dan86, try cfdisk then: cfdisk /dev/sdX
[07:50] <dan86> i5noc did you see my PM?
[07:50] <i5noc> ah ok
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> jmate: however long it takes. I suggest you look for xorg.conf samples of people using the same chip for vga, or if its a laptop,the same make /model laptop
[07:50] <i5noc> next time use pastbin ^^
[07:50] <i5noc> but anyway just shrink the first partition
[07:50] <dan86> =)
[07:51] <jmate> I'll give that a shot, and update my status on the post. Cheers
[07:52] <jmate> ActionParsnip: I'll give that a shot, and update my status on the post. Cheers
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> jmate: you may want to disable on of the video chips too, keeps things simple
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> *one
[07:52] <StaRetji> folks, what could be the reason for bash script working properly only if ran manually via console. If I assign to a keyboard button, it will not?
[07:52] <jmate> ActionParsnip: How can I disable one of the video chips?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> jmate: do you use both at the same time?
[07:53] <StaRetji> ActionParsnip: thx for yesterdays help, you went out so I didn't have a chance to thank you ;)
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> jmate: or do you only use the ati? Or only the intel?
[07:53] <jmate> ActionParsnip: I only use the ATI one.
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> StaRetji: np man
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> jmate: then disable the intel. If its onboard then there will be a bios setting to turn it off
[07:54] <linusasus6> I will restart thank have a good nite
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> jmate: may make things just work ;)
[07:56] <jmate> ActionParsnip: I am going to try the disabling the intel VGA from BIOS. I have updated the forum post with my next steps. I will document the results of the first experiment.
[07:57] <jmate> ActionParsnip: Cheers!
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> Np man :)
[07:59] <folt_tom> Hello!
[08:00] <rmrfboy> hello all
[08:01] <alexey> hi all
[08:02] <alexey> Can anybody help me?
[08:03] <whereami> Is there a way to get HDMI audio on my video card to support 5.1 channels?
[08:03] <Gnea> !ask | alexey
[08:04] <alexey> ok
[08:04] <Gnea> whereami: typically, the device that you plug your hdmi cable into must have 5.1 capability
[08:04] <whereami> Gnea, yeah, both ends do.
[08:05] <Gnea> whereami: so there you go
[08:05] <whereami> Gnea, huh?
[08:05] <whereami> Gnea, I'm saying my receiver supports 5.1
[08:06] <Gnea> whereami: and I said whatever device you plug your HDMI cable into has to support 5.1
[08:07] <whereami> Gnea, right... IT DOES
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: really? Didn't know that
[08:07] <whereami> clear?
[08:07] <Gnea> whereami: so what's the problem?
[08:08] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: he said he doesn't know how to get 5.1 to work, yet he claims that his setup supports it
[08:08] <folt_tom> I am using Ubuntu 10.1 (updated). When i am not doing any process on desktop on the "system monitor" i can see that  Ubuntu uses from CPU every second totally about %10 (i have 8 cpu s so %10 is too much) .  But on the "progress" tab (which i set it to show all processes) i can see that resources from cpu is zero but for every 5 seconds Xorg and System Monitor uses totally about %6 which is normally because they are opened at the moment. So what is the %10 o
[08:08] <whereami> i'm saying all the equipment supports it, but the sound prefs only shows it supporting stereo.
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> whereami: if you run: alsamixer in a terminal, are any channels muted?
[08:09] <x404x> after i rebooted sabnzbdplus insists on installing again, what can i do to fix this ? I want it to complete the que it had and not erase the settings, i cannot close the quick start windows or open another window
[08:09] <replicasex> Is there any reason why VLC would freeze on .mkv files?
[08:09] <replicasex> It only happens in Ubuntu
[08:09] <x404x> some config files got corrupted ?
[08:09] <Gnea> whereami: oh okay, didn't know that. yeah, try alsamixer, it might have a few options that sound prefs might not pick up
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> replicasex: run it from a terminal, the output may be useful
[08:09] <alexey> I have a problem, when I try to login in PidGin or Empathy. They retun me message like that: "From https://api.oscar.aol.com/aim/startOSCARSession returned unknown answer: Ok"
[08:10] <replicasex> ActionParsnip, how do I do that :\  also it makes my gpu fan or my cpu fan go crazy
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> alexey: add the pidgin ppa, the later version may play nicer
[08:10] <Gnea> alexey: make sure you're typing the user and pass correctly?
[08:10] <whereami> ActionParsnip, apparently you can't mute S/PDIF devices?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> replicasex: in a terminal type: vlc ,and hit enter.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> whereami: no idea, I use 2.1 using the normal audio cable. Never had a single issue
[08:11] <Gnea> whereami: what is the output of this command: lspci | grep audio
[08:11] <alexey> I use ICQ protocol. Yes, I have typing the user and pass correctly
[08:11] <Gnea> wow, people still use ICQ? yeah, I'd try a ppa release
[08:11] <Gnea> !ppa
[08:12] <whereami_> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[08:12] <whereami_> 03:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Cypress HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5800 Series]
[08:12] <whereami_> Gnea, ^^
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> whereami: can you go to the ubuntu sound troubleshooting page and run the command that downloads and runs an alsa-info script, then pastebin the result
[08:12] <zorachus> hey guys, does anyone know what the ata_aux process does?  it's raping bandwidth on a production server
[08:12] <replicasex> ActionParsnip, hm.  It gave me this ^C[0x9dcd008] signals interface error: Caught Interrupt signal, exiting..
[08:12] <alexey> Yeah, it's baggy protocol, but my friend still using it=(
[08:13] <CRU_> Anyone happen to be an expert with video playback on ubuntu.  All my flash playback is jumpy /choppy (other video, like tv tuner, is great)
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> replicasex: ok,go use websearches to see what that means
[08:13] <Gnea> zorachus: well, ata refers to the hard drive controller, so it sounds like there's a lot of system activity going on
[08:13] <zorachus> it's network bandwidth though
[08:13] <Gnea> whereami_: one moment
[08:14] <zorachus> here's an lsof for what it's accessing:  http://pastebin.com/tZh9mkbK
[08:14] <Gnea> zorachus: running a webserver?
[08:14] <yysoft_mays> how to change nick name here?
[08:14] <zorachus> yeah, running apache
[08:14] <Gnea> yysoft_mays: /nick newnick
[08:14] <frold> yysoft_mays: /nick new_name
[08:14] <yysoft_mays> ok, thx
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> CRU_: what is the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l| grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l |grep swf ,use http://pastie.org to give the output please
[08:15] <Gnea> zorachus: try looking at /var/log/apache2/access.log ?
[08:15] <yysoft_mays> I changed ?
[08:15] <yysoft_mays> :(
[08:15] <zorachus> that log is huge, haha.  it's a shared production server
[08:16] <whereami_> ActionParsnip, here you go: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e729e60ef6ee995a3fce6ffb0f607d219b6b7a51
[08:16] <zorachus> the other two processes topping bandwidth in atop are proftpd
[08:16] <zorachus> maybe related?
[08:17] <zorachus> pure-ftpd*
[08:17]  * Gnea notes the presence of pulseaudio
[08:17] <replicasex> ActionParsnip, no joy unfortunately.  there seems to be common issues associated with .mkv files in vlc but I don't seem to be having those specific ones.
[08:18] <Gnea> zorachus: do you know how to read logs in real-time?
[08:18] <replicasex> it's horribly irritating as it's casuing my fan to come on quite loudly and stay on for no reason
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> whereami_: ok it may mean stuff to people. I'm useless with sound stuff asi don't get sound issues. All I know is alsamixer, that script and the alsa ppa
[08:18] <zorachus> Gnea: yeah, i'll tail it for a minute and see if i notice anything
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> replicasex: can other playersplay it, like gnome-mplayer. Have you install w32codecs from medibuntu?
[08:19] <Gnea> zorachus: yeah, I'd look at the logs, and check out the ftpwho command
[08:19] <replicasex> yeah other players are fine :\  I am just curious as to why this is a problem in vlc ubuntu and not in the windows version
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> replicasex: or w64codecs if your OS is 64bit
[08:19] <replicasex> ActionParsnip, codecs aren't the problem, I don't think.
[08:19] <zorachus> alright, thanks.  hopefully i'll find this, don't want to resort to killing the ata_aux process when i don't know what it is
[08:20] <replicasex> anyway I'm going to have to restart because this horrible fan is so loud brb
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> replicasex: could try a later vlc if one exists or just use the other app
[08:20] <shawnboy> ActionParsnip: I solved my basename error prob with update-grub. Turns out I had a hacked up extra copy w/.save ext that was being processed as well. Deleted it and prob solved. Thanks for helping me!
[08:20] <CRU_> ActionParsnip: here's my pastebin:   http://www.pastie.org/1301974
[08:20] <Gnea> whereami_: btw... Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x41d: Stereo Amp-Out Control: name="Surround Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
[08:21] <Gnea> whereami_: it might be that pulseaudio is getting in the way
[08:21] <shawnboy> Goodnight.
[08:22] <replicasex> ActionParsnip, that's better.  I can't tell if it's my gpu fan or the other one but these .mkv files in vlc really make the fan freak out.
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> CRU_: ok what is the output of: dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[08:22] <replicasex> It's a bit worrisome.
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> replicasex: i'd just use the other app. Change the association in nautilus or whatever file manager you use
[08:23] <Gnea> whereami_: perhaps they are showing up as 2 or 3 different sound devices. can you pastebin:  cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:23] <replicasex> ActionParsnip, yeah :\  irritating that I don't know why it behaves this way though
[08:23] <whereami_> Gnea, naw, you're looking at the wrong one.
[08:23] <Gnea> whereami_: am I?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> replicasex: because mplayer is the daddy :)
[08:23] <Goood> ?
[08:23] <whereami_> yeah, I have 3 devices, it's the ATI one, listed as "Generic"
[08:24] <whereami_> The intel one works fine with 5.1, just the wrong speakers.
[08:24] <jmate> ActionParsnip: Hey, long story short, I tried disabling the integrated VGA and it did not help. I am going to try looking for an xconf tomorrow. Thanks for you help! Have a great night.
[08:24] <Gnea> whereami_: ah, I see that now
[08:24] <CRU_> ActionParsnip: All the dpkg -1 read back unknown option -1 (I am putting the number 1...right)
[08:24] <jmate> ActionParsnip: Hey, long story short, I tried disabling the integrated VGA and it did not help. I am going to try looking for an xconf tomorrow. Thanks for you help! Have a great night.
[08:25] <folt_tom> I am using Ubuntu 10.1 (updated). When i am not doing any process on desktop on the "system monitor" i can see that  Ubuntu uses from CPU every second totally about %10 (i have 8 cpu s so %10 is too much) .  But on the "progress" tab (which i set it to show all processes) i can see that resources from cpu is zero but for every 5 seconds Xorg and System Monitor uses totally about %6 which is normally because they are opened at the moment. So what is the %10 o
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> CRU_: it's. -l not -1. I'm giving you the exact command so you can copy/paste
[08:25] <Gnea> whereami_: according to that info, the ATI doesn't support 5.1
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> folt_tom: run: top ,and watch
[08:26] <whereami_> Gnea, exactly. but it does.
[08:26] <larz> is there a way to use the gnome keyring in the terminal??
[08:26] <Gnea> whereami_: what's the exact model # of the video card?
[08:26] <Ronaldlo> How do you remove screens altogether when using screen from ssh?
[08:26] <Gnea> Ronaldlo: log out of them
[08:26] <Ronaldlo> whats the command?
[08:26] <CRU_> ActionParsnip: sorry, couldn't copy and paste b/c two diff computers.
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> CRU_: the packges in your first post, uninstall those
[08:27] <Gnea> Ronaldlo: or did you want to detach and re-attach?
[08:27] <Ronaldlo> naw, log out sounds right
[08:27] <whereami_> Gnea, ATI Radeon HD 5870
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> CRU_: isee
[08:27] <Gnea> Ronaldlo: the same way you logout of any terminal
[08:27] <Ronaldlo> ah kay :)
[08:27] <Ronaldlo> next problem. I cant reach some.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> CRU_: hopefully the command will output nothing
[08:27] <CRU_> ActionParsnip: When  I type with -l I just get the next line to type (no errors, no data)
[08:27] <Ronaldlo> they are disconnected, but I'm not sure exactly what -r suffix I need
[08:27] <CRU_> ActionParsnip: ah, well that's good then =)
[08:27] <visserlabs> anyone aware of a fix for missing application menu (e.g. File, Edit, View, About) in 10.10 apps after using Ubuntu Netbook UI
[08:28] <Gnea> Ronaldlo: try -R -A -DD
[08:28] <Ronaldlo> there is three part name in some of mine
[08:28] <maco> visserlabs: i think there's a universal menu that theyre hiding in
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> CRU_: that's fine. Okremove the flash packages in the previous post (all 3).then install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:28] <StaRetji> Folks, I have a script which work fine if I call it manually bash /run/my/script.sh but after I assign this to a keyboard key it will fail? I googled and it seems it has something to do with environment variables, but can some help with this? How to make bash script works the same way like a run it from terminal. Thank you!
[08:28] <visserlabs> maco, started reading that; no sign of those applets though
[08:29] <visserlabs> maco, might nuke out anything unity related and give it a good reboot :)
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> StaRetji: you don't need the .sh on the end of the filename dude, its meaningless in linux
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | StaRetji
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> !away > JimmyJ|zz
[08:31] <StaRetji> ActionParsnip: ok, I've renamed it, but scripts still works if ran from terminal. It also runs via keyboard, but it fails. In both cases it's ran as user root
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> StaRetji: was just pointing out. Itsnot mandatory :)
[08:31] <StaRetji> ActionParsnip: ;) Thx for the tip.
[08:32] <harsha> Is there anything that I should do so that apt-get honours my preseed configuration? I have a preseed configuration for a package in /var/local/preseed like <package-name>.preseed.
[08:32] <Ronaldlo> in screens, what does power detached mean?
[08:32] <StaRetji> ActionParsnip: This bash thing is driving me crazy.
[08:32] <Goood> 有没会说中文的兄弟？  呵呵！
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> StaRetji: if the commands need to be ranas root you will need to mess with sudoers so it doesn't need a password, or have the first command ran be gksudo and use gksudo for the other command
[08:33] <StaRetji> ActionParsnip: I'm logged in to X as root
[08:33] <Ronaldlo> can I kill screens just by kill <pid>
[08:34] <lilser> i need help can anyone tell me how to add lfe to the alsa mixer so i can use all my speakers any help appriciated
[08:34] <kish> anyone know where the core files for ubuntus gnome themes are held?? i want to copy the thing over to a fedora box
[08:34] <kish> ronaldlo, yes
[08:34] <CRU_> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help...I'm actually starting to think that my computer may just not be able to handle that. I have it playing on my 32 inch tv and perhaps since adobe is software-processed it can't do it fast enough with my cpu
[08:34] <Gnea> Ronaldlo: sure
[08:34] <rdw200169> thank you elky
[08:34] <Ronaldlo> thats simplier :)
[08:35] <Gnea> just find which .deb they came from and check the contents of it
[08:35] <Gnea> kish: ^^
[08:35] <kish> gnea, oh cool
[08:35] <Gnea> I'm sort of guessing you know how to do that
[08:38] <kish> oh yeah ;)
[08:43] <Nick_Meister> hi guys i installed apache 2 and i setup a virtual host pointing to a directory, i made it owned by www-data and the server says that permission is denied when i am trying to access it from the browser
[08:43] <christie> hello all
[08:43] <ubthehe> hello
[08:44] <bluefrog> Nick_Meister, what about the parent directory?
[08:45] <christie> I have a little problem.  I am trying to figure how to change the host name of my desktop.  I set up two systems with the same host name and now I am unable to see one of them I am thinking due to a conflict with the host name
[08:45] <Nick_Meister> bluefrog, that belongs to a different user, but thats not even the point even the default index.html shows up as a permission denied
[08:45] <greppy> christie: edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, reboot.
[08:46] <bluefrog> Nick_Meister, it is the point
[08:46] <Nick_Meister> bluefrog, this same setup works on my other computer just fine
[08:46] <christie> Cool Thanks
[08:46] <dZoNi> y
[08:46] <bluefrog> Nick_Meister, cool then you have no problem
[08:46] <dZoNi> jaspasdffsd
[08:46] <Nick_Meister> bluefrog, except it does not on this one for some odd reason
[08:47] <gbear14275> hey guys, my sources just went nuts... can anyone give me a hand resolving them?  Synaptic just listed 80% of my system as local/obsolete
[08:47] <bluefrog> christie, no need to reboot
[08:47] <christie> Oh Ok
[08:47] <christie> Due you think this is what caused the network issue?
[08:48] <christie> I sorry I meant do. It's late
[08:49] <bluefrog> christie, after playing with hostname,  sudo service hostname start shoul suffice
[08:49] <uncola_> anyone know if ubuntu or linux in general supports esata  fis port multiplier?
[08:49] <uncola_> for esata enclosures that have more than one drive?
[08:50] <gbear14275> uncola_: In general I would have to say yes...
[08:50] <christie> Ok I will try that right now.  I am currently in the Lubuntu desktop and it's a little different then Ubuntu Gnome desktop.  Just trying to find my Terminal
[08:50] <christie> Got it
[08:51] <sun_> ctrl+f2 for terminal
[08:51] <panp> just installed 10.10 and my win. inst. is no longer visible in grub. win. partition is encripted.
[08:52] <panp> where to find doc. on manual addition to grub?
[08:52] <gbear14275> anyone know how to refresh the sources in the software center?  There is no refresh button.
[08:52] <derek> how can i get sun java 6?  for 10.10?
[08:53] <JackStoner> derek: i think there's a PPA somewhere
[08:54] <JackStoner> try this ppa:voronov84/andreyv
[08:54] <gbear14275> derek: search for sun in synaptic...
[08:55] <eselle> anyone know where I can get info on fixing a slow trackpad in 10.04? All I get from google is old stuff to do with xorg.conf
[08:55] <geboy> i'm using an old low end machine with ubuntu desktop that act as somekind of server. been asking here and there, they said xorg graphical desktop might be better coz it uses low resources. can i switch to xinterface without affecting other setup. if its possible i might better get rid of the gnome to
[08:56] <JackStoner> geboy: try xfe (xubuntu) or lxde (lubuntu)
[08:56] <geboy> since when oracle bought sun?
[08:56] <kimitaa> hi1
[08:56] <geboy> !lubuntu
[08:57] <geboy> JackStoner: should i just apt-get it?
[08:57] <derek> well i dont know what a ppa is... still a kinda new to ubuntu... first time since 10.04 came out... but i installed vuze with synaptic.. and when i had 10.04 i remember installing sun java 6 in the termial.. now that i got 10.10 i cant get it work
[08:57] <kimitaa> ubuntu 10.1 will update all packages on stable versions ? for example bleachbit's 0.8.2 version is avaible but i have 0.8.0 yet :(
[08:57] <JackStoner> geboy: you might want to do a fresh install or you can just install xfce4 from synaptic
[08:57] <eselle> I have used xfce and its pretty good
[08:57] <JackStoner> then you can switch in login
[08:58] <JackStoner> derek: type in the terminal sudo apt-add-repository [the ppa name] then type sudo apt-get update
[08:58] <geboy> JackStoner: ouch ...freshh install...hmm...thats gotta hurt. i setup my box to fully operated in the whole 48 hours and i have to do that from scratch
[08:58] <JackStoner> after that you can do an install...search for sun-java6-jre
[08:58] <geboy> T_T
[08:58] <eselle> geboy, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[08:58] <eselle> same thing
[08:58] <JackStoner> geboy: then install xfce4
[08:59] <derek> i already have vuze installed
[08:59] <geboy> ok gonna try that first.
[08:59] <eselle> anyone help me with the trackpad?
[08:59] <timClicks> how do I access the admin menu in unity?
[09:00] <kimitaa> Ubuntu 10.1 will update all packages on stable versions ? For example Bleachbit's 0.8.2 version is available but i have 0.8.0 (i had installed then Bleachbit from software center):(
[09:00] <eselle> try a unity chatroom?
[09:00] <timClicks> there's a unity chan>
[09:00] <JackStoner> !unity
[09:01] <panp> grub cannot identify encrypted windows partition. any idea how to get dual boot?
[09:02] <timClicks> found it, applications > system
[09:02] <geboy> another thing while i'm installing, how to control grub?
[09:03] <uncola> panp maybe boot from a windows bartpe disc, then use it to reinstall the windows boot loader, and if that works add linux to it?
[09:03] <larz> does anyone know if there is a way to use the gnome keyring via the terminal??
[09:03] <larz> or atleast enter the password in the treminal?
[09:04] <panp> the only problem is i do not have installation cd. its a recovery partition... will whipe out data i fear
[09:05] <i5noc> panp, rather than dual boot, use wubi
[09:05] <i5noc> install to a file, and it mods the boot options from inside windows
[09:07] <panp> thanks.. think i will figure a way to get into windows
[09:07] <visserlabs> panp, I'm using wubi, it's dead simple :)
[09:07] <visserlabs> now I'm trying to figure out how to get BURG setup to replace the CLI based boot options at startu
[09:08] <kimitaa> Ubuntu 10.1 will update all packages on stable versions ? For example Bleachbit's 0.8.2 version is available but i have 0.8.0 (i had installed then Bleachbit from software center):(
[09:08] <panp> downloading wubi... thanks again
[09:09] <DASPRiD> kimitaa, 10.1?
[09:09] <DASPRiD> we are already 9 numbers ahead i think
[09:10] <kimitaa> DASPRiD: sorry what do you mean . i use ubuntu 10.1 .
[09:10] <JackStoner> kimitaa: it will update packages on ubuntu 10.10 repositories
[09:10] <DASPRiD> kimitaa, there is no 10.1 :)
[09:10] <JackStoner> DASPRiD: i this kimitaa meant 10.10
[09:10] <kimitaa> DASPRiD: JackStoner:  ahh ok. sorry.
[09:11] <JackStoner> kimitaa: its ok :)
[09:11] <kimitaa> JackStoner: will i update them manually ? or should i wait..
[09:12] <JackStoner> kimitaa: you can either update manually (if you really need to) but why fix something thats not broken
[09:12] <JackStoner> or you can wait until its put into the repositories
[09:13] <sun_> Anyone knows some good GNOME themes?
[09:13] <JackStoner> if bleachbit is working fine for you and you dont necessarily need to update then better not...
[09:13] <kimitaa> JackStoner: ok so i will wait. i just asked if it will be update soon or not. because on ubuntu 10.04 it is never updating...
[09:13] <JackStoner> sun_: gnome-look.org << lots of them there
[09:14] <JackStoner> kimitaa: it takes time for developers (ubuntu) to apporove the packages and add them
[09:14] <JackStoner> but you DO have the freedom of manually updating packages
[09:15] <kimitaa> JackStoner: if i install the latest deb by hand (manually) , it will update to the other versions when avaible ?
[09:15] <JackStoner> kimitaa: not necessarily for that you need a repository usually from the package developers
[09:16] <JackStoner> search google for that...hint: bleachbit ppa
[09:16] <larz> kimitaa, do: 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get upgrade' (without ')
[09:16] <larz>  
[09:17] <kimitaa>  larz: there is no update yet...
[09:18] <JackStoner> kimitaa: try my suggestion :)
[09:18] <DrManhattan> is there any way to get the proper application icon in the upper left hand corner of my apps? I figured out how to get the buttons on the right side but the icon on the left is just a dot, not the icon for the application itself and I'd REALLY like to change that
[09:18] <kimitaa> JackStoner:  i know.  but i am asking if i update it manually, and after a time when will available a new version of that package, it will update automatically ? or not ?
[09:18] <larz> kimitaa, ohh sorry i was just glancing over, what did u want??
[09:18] <JackStoner> kimitaa: try this 'sudo apt-add-repository ppa:medigeek/ppa
[09:18] <aeMaeth> kimitaa, if you add the ppa to your list of repositories it will be updated
[09:19] <kimitaa>  JackStoner:  i know.  but i am asking if i update it manually, and after a time when will available a new version of that package, it will update automatically ? or not ? i know what is ppa
[09:19] <JackStoner> then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:19] <JackStoner> yes it will
[09:19] <kimitaa> JackStoner: ok. :) that was the anwer :)
[09:19] <kimitaa> JackStoner: thank you all...
[09:19] <JackStoner> as long as you have the ppa added
[09:19] <JackStoner> welcome
[09:20] <larz> kimitaa, if u are using ppa, yes it will update, if u r building it then no it will not
[09:20] <larz> lol don't worry listen to JackStoner
[09:21] <JackStoner> larz: :P
[09:21] <cederlov> I have installed fuppes (rev 678) on my 10.04 server, but the vfolder config has changed since the last verison. Antone familiar with fuppes vfolders?
[09:21] <rdw200169> DrManhattan: i take it you've read some of this? http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html
[09:22] <larz> does ANYONE know if there is a way to use the gnome keyring via the terminal?? or isn't it possible (which i find hard to believe in linux)
[09:23] <larz> SOMEONE!!! is it possible??
[09:23] <JackStoner> larz: check out gnome-keyring-query
[09:24] <bluefrog> larz, it's hard to b elieve that other s foind information about what you ask...http://kparal.wordpress.com/2009/09/29/command-line-access-to-gnome-keyring/
[09:25] <larz> thanks
[09:26] <bluefrog> larz, gnome keyring is part of gnome is graphical. then why do you need CLI
[09:26] <geboy> JackStoner: then what to do after installing xfce4?
[09:26] <bluefrog> (i don't want an answer)..
[09:27] <JackStoner> geboy: logout...then as u login...at the bottom choose XFCE instead of gnome
[09:27] <rdw200169> DrManhattan: according to that, it seems like you can use Drawing Operations to "Draw the window icon"; thus, in your theme, define the location and use the drawing operation to put in the icon, per the example provided.. yay!
[09:27] <larz> bluefrog,JackStoner: what i was actually  looking for is there a way to open the keyring using the terminal (via ssh)
[09:28] <geboy> JackStoner: can i remove gnome completely then? or just let it reside in the harddrive? it won't taking resources right?
[09:28] <samuelob> Hi everyone
[09:28] <samuelob> I have a problem
[09:28] <JackStoner> geboy: some components in gnome are used in Xfce but it would considerable use less resources if u use sfce
[09:28] <JackStoner> *xfce
[09:29] <JackStoner> !ask | samuelob
[09:29] <samuelob> I was sure
[09:29] <samuelob> sorry
[09:29] <bluefrog> larz, what are you talking about? gpg keys or passwords used to conncet to the wifi and so on?
[09:30] <geboy> JackStoner: sfce?
[09:30] <geboy> owh
[09:30] <geboy> sorry...
[09:31] <geboy> i got what you mean
[09:31] <JackStoner> geboy: sure thing :)
[09:31] <geboy> JackStoner: alrighty then. thanks alot
[09:31] <samuelob> I was upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04 when my computer lost power. When I tried to boot it up in recovery mode and start aptitude, it says that my file system is in read only mode. How I change this to fix the broken packages?
[09:31] <JackStoner> geboy: welcome
[09:33] <samuelob> I can't seem to make changes in aptitude without changing my filesystem from read only.
[09:34] <larz> bluefrog, well i want to be able open up VNC on server reboot, but the VNC program requires the keyring to be open to get the password to authenticate the remote cilent
[09:35] <larz> i can still ssh in (plus i use that most) so when i want/need to use gui then i want to be able to open the keyring remotely so i can connet
[09:39] <alexandrosorodio> Hello there , doen anyone have any solutions on how to injection to work with ath9k and ubuntu 10.10 patch or any other solution? Thanks
[09:40] <przemek_> hi there. I need to mount smb volume with exec permissions for files. Is there any way to do that? I've tried fmask option but without luck
[09:41] <crissi> umask
[09:42] <jkp> question: how can i uninstall mysql and completely purge all existing databases?
[09:42] <jkp> im using apt-get purge mysql-server
[09:42] <jkp> but it doesnt remove the existing databases
[09:43] <jkp> when i reinstall everything is preserved
[09:43] <samuelob> Help! computer shutoff when upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04 and my filesystem is now in read-only mode. I don't know how to change this so I can fix my broken installation. Any suggestions?
[09:45] <hetii> hi :)
[09:45] <hetii> Q: how can i identify process that listening on this ports? i use rkhunter and chkrootkit but they don`t found enything rkhunter show just few warnings: http://pastebin.ca/199316
[09:47] <Monotoko> guys...should I be worried, firestarter is blocking connections every 5 seconds
[09:47] <Monotoko> from various IP's
[09:47] <maco> Monotoko: no, htats normal traffic on the internet
[09:47] <Monotoko> maco, even if i'm behind a router? Ida thought the router would deal with it all
[09:47] <mote> #ubuntu-dk
[09:48] <maco> Monotoko: does the router have a firewall built in with all ports already closed and no port forwarding?
[09:49] <Monotoko> maco, it has a firewall, there is one port open though
[09:49] <maco> Monotoko: really, if it says its blocking them, then by definition you dont need to worry about them ;-)
[09:49] <Monotoko> maco, aye I suppose :P
[09:50] <sevenearths> how can I switch between keyboards in ubuntu. GRUB and the login screen both recognise my laptop keyboard but when in the OS I need to plug in a USB one to type text :(
[09:51] <Monotoko> sevenearths, is it possible ubuntu doesn't have the drivers for your keyboard? Although I thought it was a pretty standard thing...
[09:51] <sevenearths> it always switched between them before ?!?
[09:51] <rebirth> hello, how can i install this? http://www.getdeb.net/app/DrawPile
[09:51] <Monotoko> interesting, when did it stop?
[09:51] <sevenearths> not to sure y it won't happen now
[09:51] <Monotoko> there might be something in the logs to tell you why it wont work
[09:52] <sevenearths> just now. I'm typing this with the usb keyboard :(
[09:52] <sevenearths> which logs do you reckon ?
[09:52] <Monotoko> switch to ctrl+alt+F1, kill Xorg and restart it...it might have a complaint
[09:52] <Monotoko> thats how i fixed mine
[09:53] <Monotoko> rebirth, just download and double click
[09:53] <Monotoko> simplez ;P
[09:53] <vu1kan> does anybody know where the folder icons with the nifty emblems are stored?  like the icon for ~/Documents?
[09:53] <sevenearths> cool i'll try that. thanks!
[09:53] <crissi> i have problems with freezing/broken ssh connections after some minutes... ubuntu 10.10 here
[09:54] <Thiryal> I'm having trouble booting a Ubuntu Live CD to do an install; it's worked previously on this exact machine [~ 2 hrs ago], but now it gets to the desktop background and stops. I can reach a terminal on ctrl-alt-F3, but can't see what's going wrong.
[09:54] <crissi> whats the problem with 10.10? with 10.04 i never had this problem (client)
[09:54] <lucid_> Why would a machine boot to a different runlevel than the default (3)? It seems it`s booting to runlevel 2 now....
[09:55] <rebirth> Monotoko: it says this link needs to be opened with an application
[09:55] <Monotoko> rebirth, sounds like you are still in your browser? Download it, then go to downloads
[09:56] <Monotoko> then run it from there
[09:57] <rebirth> Monotoko: all i see is the button that says "install this now" and then it brings up a Launch Application window, i don't see download
[09:57] <meltingwax> I have an NTFS external hard drive automounted using nautilus that I want to server data from with apache. Does anyone know how I can set up the proper permissions to make this possible?
[09:58] <lucid_> haha, sorry about my question earlier since it seems runlevel 2 is the default one in ubuntu... seems i might have misunderstood some of the documentation online :|
[09:59] <sevenearths> AJ: I tried killing xorg but it asked me for a processor ID as well. Do I need theat when I use the kill command?
[09:59] <sevenearths> (I was AJ)
[09:59] <Monotoko> sevenearths, "killall"
[09:59] <ikonia> sevenearths: process ID - not a processor ID
[09:59] <sevenearths>  so 'killall xorg'?
[10:00] <Monotoko> kilall Xorg
[10:00] <Monotoko> although it will kick you off IRC
[10:00] <rebirth> Monotoko: where is the download link? did you try installing it yourself?
[10:00] <Monotoko> then run "startx"
[10:00] <sevenearths> cool I'll give it a go and then re-boot
[10:00] <Monotoko> sevenearths, why reboot?
[10:00] <Monotoko> ......
[10:00] <crissi> any idea why by sh connections broke with 10.10?
[10:01] <crissi> ssh
[10:01] <Thiryal> Oh, I'm using Ubuntu 10.10, and it does show a load average of 4.0, with three processes in status D: NetworkManager, iwconfig and gnome-settings-.... Could it be one of the network things causing it to wait so long on startup?
[10:01] <Monotoko> crissi, do you use key-based authentication?
[10:02] <crissi> yes
[10:02] <sevenearths> no process found called Xorg :(
[10:02] <Monotoko> crissi, I believe it generates new keys when you perform a new install
[10:02] <sevenearths> I'm using compiz, does that make a difference?
[10:02] <vu1kan> when i switch to a real console, the text is all blocky and unreadable...the same for plymouth and w/e the shutdown messages are delivered with...how would i fix this?
[10:03] <crissi> its an upgrade
[10:03] <julian_> good morning.
[10:03] <petan> morning
[10:04] <sevenearths> crissi: who me... or vu1kan?
[10:04] <julian_> i'm trying to tweak some settings for make. i'm used to gentoo, where i can just edit /etc/make.conf, which obviously isn't part of ubuntu's system. so how can i change the make settings/options permanently in ubuntu? google didn't help me yet
[10:05] <sevenearths> I think its because I mess around with virtual machines and I always have to tell the OS if I'm using the usb keyboard or laptop keyboard in side the VM
[10:07] <rebirth> ok, i installed drawpile using git, how do i launch it?
[10:10] <Rickardo1> after make install, I can´t start the app just typing its name.. but it works with e.g ./git
[10:10] <ikonia> Rickardo1: why did you not install git from the repo ?
[10:11] <Rickardo1> ikonia: I am on a mac
[10:11] <ikonia> Rickardo1: then why are you asking in an Ubuntu support channel ?
[10:11] <Rickardo1> ikonia: cause systems are similar
[10:11] <rebirth> someone who knows about git, how do i launch a program i installed using git?
[10:11] <ikonia> Rickardo1: no they are not, mac OS is not ubuntu - this channel is for ubuntu support only
[10:11] <rebirth> cd ..
[10:12] <rebirth> oops
[10:12] <ikonia> Rickardo1: please use ##apple or #macos for support
[10:12] <greppy> Rickardo1: are you on mac hardware running ubuntu?
[10:12] <julian_> Rickardo1, ikonia: i guess mac os - if it's similar to anything - is more lik a BSD, because of kernel/etc.?
[10:13] <Rickardo1> ikonia: #macos 0 users
[10:13] <ikonia> Rickardo1: check the freenode channel list, but we can't support you here
[10:13] <Rickardo1> ikonia: oki
[10:13] <uncola> I think the apple channels are #macosx and #apple with macosx being bigger
[10:14] <julian_> btw. did anyone read my question, is there an answer? sorry for pushing, seems to me like it's been forgotten already ;-) (how do i permanently change make options like cxxflags etc. in ubuntu)
[10:14] <tgywa> How do I know the path to an installed module ?
[10:14] <tgywa> ii  php5-mcrypt                        5.2.6-0ubuntu6                                  MCrypt module for php5
[10:14] <ikonia> julian_: they are environment variables
[10:15] <tgywa> I would like to know the path to that installed PHP module ... can anybody help?
[10:15] <asdddf> ﻿Hi! Do you know how to download OGG files from Jamendo when BitTorrent tracker can't find peers?
[10:15] <ikonia> tgywa: installed using the ubuntu package manager ?
[10:15] <ikonia> asdddf: you can't
[10:15] <julian_> ikonia: yes i know that. as i said, i'm used to gentoo for example, where i can set them in /etc/make.conf permanently. if i wish to change them for one single compilation, i can set them temporarily of course. but i don't want to do it every time.
[10:16] <ikonia> julian_: set it in your shell
[10:16] <przemek_> I need to mount smb volume with exec permissions for files. Is there any way to do that? I've tried already fmask option but without luck
[10:16] <ikonia> julian_: that way everytime your shell is launched it's alaready set
[10:16] <asdddf> ikonia: thanks haha
[10:16] <tgywa> ikonia, yes ... using apt-get ... but I had to do some more things to let ... PHP 5.2 run on Ubuntu 10.04 ... instead of PHP 5.3
[10:17] <ikonia> tgywa: what did you do to get 5.2 running ?
[10:17] <julian_> ikonia: i thought about that, i was just curious if there's another way, exclusively for make settings to be stored. but thank you, i guess there's nothing alike. just wanted to be sure :-)
[10:17] <rebirth> how to fix error "Qt qmake not found!"?
[10:17] <ikonia> julian_: gentoo does it's own thing
[10:17] <ikonia> rebirth: install it
[10:17] <rebirth> how?
[10:18] <tgywa> ikonia, # cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/php | grep mcrypt ... Package: php5-mcrypt
[10:18] <tgywa> Pin: version 5.2.6*
[10:18] <tgywa> Pin-Priority: 991
[10:18] <ikonia> rebirth: open the package manager, search for qmake, mark it for install
[10:18] <julian_> ikonia: i know. just an idea because i used it for a long time, i'm still "thinking gentoo" i guess ;-)
[10:18] <ikonia> tgywa: is 5.2.6 in the 10.10 repo ?
[10:19] <tgywa> ikonia, I am not sure ...
[10:19] <tgywa> ikonia, I just use apt-get install
[10:20] <ikonia> tgywa: the modules should go to the standard place
[10:20] <ikonia> tgywa: I can't remember it off hand, but you can either use "find" to find it, but it's something like /etc/httpd/conf.d/modules
[10:22] <bullgard4> !prefix chu_
[10:22] <Sibo> Hi guys, good morning for the Netherlands
[10:22] <bullgard4> ! prefix chu_
[10:22] <Rickardo1> Shall there always be a configure to run before make ?
[10:22] <ikonia> bullgard4: chu_ is on in the channel
[10:22] <ikonia> Rickardo1: we will not support you, stop asking
[10:22] <Rickardo1> ikonia: I am talking about ubuntu now....
[10:22] <Sibo> ikonia: Why?
[10:22] <ikonia> Rickardo1: no your not
[10:22] <maco> Rickardo1: no
[10:23] <Rickardo1> ikonia: what?
[10:23] <nazgjunk> Rickardo1: not necessarily, but in general yeah
[10:23] <maco> Rickardo1: that is entirely dependent on what the source code is you want to compile
[10:23] <ikonia> Rickardo1: you are using mac OS - stop it
[10:23] <Rickardo1> ikonia: I solved the osx problem now I´m at my ubuntu server
[10:23] <ikonia> Rickardo1: show me the output of uname -a please
[10:23] <nazgjunk> ikonia: who gives half a damn as long as the question is of a general nature
[10:23] <Rickardo1> ikonia: I didn´t know I hade to only have one os to ask here
[10:24] <ikonia> nazgjunk: the channel policy "gives a damn"
[10:24] <Rickardo1> ikonia: Linux web01 2.6.32-25-server #45-Ubuntu SMP Sat Oct 16 20:06:58 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:24] <nazgjunk> Question he asked was a simple one.  Doesn't hurt to answer when there's nobody else talking anyway.
[10:24] <ikonia> Rickardo1: thank you
[10:24] <ikonia> nazgjunk: yes it does, follow the policy please
[10:24] <slixz> sup
[10:25] <nazgjunk> ikonia: okay, not disputing the policy here, but how does it hurt anywone?
[10:25] <ikonia> nazgjunk: because it's against the policy
[10:25] <nazgjunk> .. that is the stupidest thing I am going to hear all day.
[10:26] <ikonia> nazgjunk: then don't use the channel if you can't follow the policy
[10:26] <Rickardo1> It´s amazing how u can put that energy to talk about this silly shit.
[10:26] <slixz> trying to install ubuntu netbook 1010 from 10.04 so cant use gui to get it. neone know a command i could use in term
[10:26] <ikonia> Rickardo1: please control your language
[10:26] <slixz> no cd drive
[10:26] <nazgjunk> ikonia: I can follow the policy.  My issue is that you answer my question with.. something that isn't an answer.  I'm genuinely curious here, and you just throw a circular argument in my face.
[10:26] <Rickardo1> ikonia: hilarious
[10:27] <ikonia> nazgjunk: join #ubuntu-ops
[10:27] <ikonia> Rickardo1: I'm not laughing, please don't use swear words in the #ubuntu channels
[10:27] <slixz> trying to install ubuntu netbook 1010 from 10.04 so cant use gui to get it. neone know a command i could use in term
[10:27] <slixz> trying to install ubuntu netbook 1010 from 10.04 so cant use gui to get it. neone know a command i could use in term
[10:27] <slixz> no cd drive
[10:27] <FloodBot3> slixz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:27] <Rickardo1> ikonia: plz tell me you´re not real
[10:27] <Nikkk> hello, how do i reduce my screen resolution in ubuntu 10.04 Lucid.........I'm using Lenovo Ideapad...screen brightness functions are not working
[10:27] <ikonia> Rickardo1: I am
[10:27] <ikonia> !guidlines > Rickardo1
[10:29] <JackStoner> Nikkk: there's a link somewhere i thinki had the same problem..gimme a min
[10:29] <Nikkk> JackStoner : Yes
[10:30] <JackStoner> Nikkk: here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1321403
[10:30] <JackStoner> as for screen resolution go to System > Preferences > Monitor
[10:32] <Lantizia> Hey, how can I get updatedb to include my external hdd?  (or maybe a better way to quickly index/search my external hdd?)
[10:32] <ikonia> Lantizia: you need to change your locate.conf
[10:33] <Lantizia> ikonia, I see a updatedb.conf but no locate.conf in /etc
[10:33] <Lantizia> ikonia, I presume you mean to take /media out of PRUNEPATHS
[10:33] <Lantizia> which has worked :)
[10:34] <hale> *********  hi. i want to delete content of my file. i typed: echo "" /var/log/myfile.log but my file isn't empty now. plz help me
[10:34] <Lantizia> hale, > /var/log/myfile.log
[10:35] <hale> ?
[10:35] <aeMaeth> you need the '>'
[10:35] <Lantizia> hale, I know it looks strange - try it
[10:35] <Lantizia> you don't need the echo at all
[10:37] <aeMaeth>  > will erase the document and put anything piped in, whereas >> will append to the end of the file
[10:38] <rocket16> After I installed Ubuntu 10.10, the speed was awesome. But I tested many things, like adding screenlets and awn and so. Now, As I have a very low RAM, 512 MB, I uninstalled those and made several arrangements for speedups on my laptop.
[10:39] <quiescens> indeed, echo > file, will leave the file with 1 byte
[10:39] <rocket16> But yet, the speed is really not that much what it was when I first installed it. I removed applications as well, and have those default applications and some minimal packages.
[10:39] <Nikkk> JackStoner : That fix isn't working for me !
[10:39] <rocket16> Is there a way like factory-defaults settings for Ubuntu, or at least apt-get?
[10:39] <Nikkk> :(
[10:39] <JackStoner> Nikkk: remind me what was the problem...sorry
[10:40] <slixz> trying to install ubuntu netbook 1010 from 10.04 so cant use gui to get it. neone know a command i could use in term
[10:40] <slixz> no cd drive
[10:40] <slixz> just wanting to make sure it upgrades to the netbook iso and not the regular 1010
[10:40] <slixz> if i use the gui it upgrades regular
[10:40] <slixz> sup any1 know this quick command
[10:41] <hale> tnx bye
[10:41] <quiescens> you're trying to go from 10.04 desktop to 10.10 netbook?
[10:41] <slixz> yes
[10:41] <samyak> I am getting errors while installing eclipse ... the error is at http://paste.anvay.net/14
[10:42] <Nikkk> I'm trying to adjust my screen brightness in Ubuntu 10.04 using the function keys. However, the brightness is neither reducing nor increasing..Apparently, fn keys are not functioning in ubuntu :(
[10:42] <slixz> since i dont got a cd drive i need to upgrade by internet
[10:42] <Nikkk> JackStoner:
[10:42] <samyak> even for other packages I am getting the same size mismatch errors
[10:42] <JackStoner> Nikkk: here's what u need to do
[10:42] <JackStoner> go to your terminal...go to /etc/default/
[10:43] <Nikkk> JackStoner : Yes please !
[10:43] <JackStoner> then sudo gedit grub
[10:43] <aeMaeth> rocket16, not sure if there's a default list anywhere, you could look at the install iso maybe
[10:44] <Nikkk> JackStoner: done
[10:44] <JackStoner> Nikkk: find the line with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT....
[10:44] <JackStoner> Nikkk: make it look like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset acpi_backlight=vendor"
[10:45] <root> HI
[10:45] <JackStoner> then do sudo update-grub ...reboot...and try again
[10:46] <samyak> size mismatch issue while installing some of the packages
[10:46] <mfaroukg> why is the (grub rescue) still showing the wrong boot hd and msdos?
[10:46] <rocket16> aeMaeth: I see. Thank you.
[10:46] <slixz> sup
[10:46] <slixz> anyone got idea
[10:47] <remoteCTRL1> j /#bash
[10:47] <remoteCTRL1> gosh sry
[10:48] <Nikkk> JackStoner: Yep, done !
[10:48] <JackStoner> Nikkk: is it working now??
[10:48] <samyak> can anybody tell me what is the the issue due to which errors like this http://paste.anvay.net/14 are coming , during installing new packages
[10:49] <Nikkk> JackStoner: Nop
[10:49] <Nikkk> :(
[10:49] <JackStoner> fn keys are still now working??
[10:49] <Nikkk> the progress bar for brightness is being shown. However, the brightnessis not getting changed..
[10:50] <samyak> JackStoner, try  xautomation
[10:50] <JackStoner> Nikkk: you are using ubuntu 10.10 or 10.04??
[10:50] <samyak> Nikkk, try  xautomation
[10:50] <Nikkk> 10.04
[10:50] <Nikkk> samyak : I'm new to Ubuntu....I have no idea what is xautomation. Can you please elucidate a bit on that ?
[10:52] <przemek_> I need to mount smb volume with exec permissions for the files. Is there any way to do that?
[10:52] <samyak> Nikkk, I just remember this command as one of my friend has the same issue and he resolved it with  xautomation
[10:52] <samyak> Nikkk, please google around it should be matter of adding an entry
[10:52] <samyak> or shortcut
[10:52] <iceroot> what is the common way to load the module "foobar" with grub-legancy at the installation part? so what does the line have to look like?
[10:53] <samyak> Nikkk, http://hoopajoo.net/projects/xautomation.html
[10:53] <gfmniky_> ciao a tutti,da quando ho installato la 10.10 spesso si chiude dasola la sessione,sapete come potrei risolvere,grazie
[10:53] <JackStoner> Nikkk: sudo apt-get install xautomation
[10:54] <Maddeth> przemek_, chmod +x on the folder?
[10:55] <mfaroukg> petan, Hi, can you help in grub2 configuration ?
[10:55] <Nikkk> JackStoner : Done !
[10:55] <mfaroukg> can anybody help in grub2 configuration ?
[10:55] <JackStoner> samyak: can u walk Nikkk how to use xautomation
[10:56] <JackStoner> Nikkk: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work
[10:57] <przemek_> Maddeth : what folder?
[10:58] <mfaroukg> Who does know the grub2 configuration?
[10:59] <JackStoner> !grub2 | mfaroukg
[11:00] <mfaroukg> ubottu, i have read this article and i would like to discuss something seems a bug to me.
[11:00] <samyak> JackStoner, I am afraid I have not used it, as I said I just know one of my friend used it with success
[11:01] <mfaroukg> ubottu, i have read this article and i would like to discuss something seems a bug to me.
[11:01] <JackStoner> samyak: ok
[11:01] <JackStoner> mfaroukg: dont try and talk to ubottu ..its only a bot
[11:01]  * JackStoner stepped out 
[11:02] <mfaroukg> JackStoner, Okay
[11:02] <lea123> Mine is a 2 day old installation and today I find the Panel missing it only displayed by desktop background...
[11:02] <Nikkk> @samyax - I've gone through ur link....fixs ok...
[11:02] <lea123> Mine is a 2 day old installation and today I find the Panel missing only the desktop background  is being displayed....
[11:03] <samyak> Nikkk, so you have fixed it suceesfully ?
[11:04] <Nikkk> Samayak : Nop :(..not fixed yet..
[11:04] <mihai_>  does anyone know what is the reason for slow loading webpages ? i noticed it happening after 3-4 hours of system uptime,pages like youtube take up to 3-5 mins to load or sometimes it just doesn`t load at all,even google.com takes 1-3 mins to load And i noticed everything going back to normal after i reboot,at least for another 3-4 hours. i`m using ubuntu 10.10,oh and today i left my system idle for 8 hours while i was at work and came home and found my
[11:04] <mihai_> router frozen.probably just a coincidence or could it be that some application is flooding my router ?
[11:05] <mfaroukg> Who does know the grub2 configurations? i had deleted old partitions from the laptop for other linux system, but i think there is something wrong with the sd## numbers, how can i edit grub to look at the correct partiotions
[11:05] <Nikkk> Smayak : I've installed the xautomation as per JackStoner's suggestion even before u had sent me the link..
[11:08] <Nikkk> JackStoner: mine is an ideapad...n the fn keys are arrow keys(up & down) for increasing n decreasing respectively !
[11:08] <Rickardo1> Is there any command line tool I can use to measure speed between 2 ubuntu machines..
[11:08] <WilliamHerry> where to locale
[11:09] <sanu01> guys anyone with a thinkpad here who uses tp-smapi? have a question
[11:09] <mfaroukg> (fixed) i reinstalled the grub (grub-install /dev/sdx) and it worked fine :)
[11:09] <mfaroukg> I hope that helps
[11:10] <sanu01> in the ubuntu repos there are 2 tp-smapi packages...not sure which one to install
[11:10] <sanu01> tp-smapi-source and tp-smapi-dkms
[11:10] <sanu01> i have no idea which would be better?
[11:10] <rchavik> Nikkk, i'm using thinkpad edge and had to update my bios first to get the Fn keys working. you might need to check latest bios updates from lenovo
[11:11] <rchavik> Nikkk, note that updating bios involves some risk! be careful
[11:11] <Shoggoth_> help please - I can't get any directx based programs to run under wine on Maverick
[11:12] <JohnN> hi
[11:12] <JohnN> having a spot of bother with configure wine on Netbook remix 10.10... when I add an app the window disappears and I can't finish adding the app
[11:12] <WilliamHerry> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[11:12] <JohnN> I can click on the wine button in the launcher and window shows in the middle of the screen but when I try clicking on it, it slides off to the left and disappears again
[11:12] <WilliamHerry> i need help
[11:12] <WilliamHerry> how to change locale settings
[11:13] <mfaroukg> Rickardo1, i remember iperf was good
[11:13] <sanu01> whats the difference between source and dkms?wich one is better?
[11:15] <zamba> how do i set the homepage for all users globally?
[11:15] <zamba> in firefox
[11:17] <root__> name y02
[11:17] <Defi_> hi everyone, i just cloned my failing hdd to a brand new one using Acronis, but when i try boot Ubuntu off the new drive, it says no /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxx
[11:17] <Defi_> how can i tell ubuntu to use the new hard drive?
[11:18] <mfaroukg> Defi_, do you mean use it for booting?
[11:18] <Defi_> mfaroukg: err, obviously..
[11:19] <Defi_> it refuses to boot because of the above error, i need to have it boot
[11:19] <mfaroukg> Defi_, does it have the ubuntu operating system?
[11:19] <Nikkk> @rchavik - lol, I'm scared :P
[11:20] <Defi_> mfaroukg: either you cant read, or you are too inexperienced to help, either way, leave it for someone else to answer
[11:20] <dmg> hi guys!
[11:20] <mfaroukg> Defi_, have you installed the grub to the new HDD?
[11:20] <najwa> hi
[11:20] <dmg> I wrote somewhere that it is possible to encrypt your home directory
[11:21] <dmg> so I did it during installation of 10.10
[11:21] <Defi_> mfaroukg: the first thing i said was that i cloned my failing hard drive to a brand new one using Acronis.
[11:21] <dmg> but I read somewhere that it is possible to encrypt it with two-phase passphrase
[11:21] <dmg> password on pendrive + password that you type
[11:22] <dmg> I suppose that Ubuntu will merge these two passwords
[11:22] <dmg> is it possible?
[11:22] <dmg> now I have quite long password, but with this pendrive-driven password it wouldb be short
[11:23] <mfaroukg> Defi_, you can boot from the liveCD and check the: sudo fdisk -l
[11:24] <Defi_> mfaroukg: and that will help what exactly?
[11:25] <mfaroukg> Defi_, it will show you the exact sd naming for your new HDD
[11:25] <Defi_> mfaroukg: which i then do what with?
[11:26] <mfaroukg> Defi_, if no errors during your copying you will find your ubuntu booting names and the first column will show you the correct sd names
[11:26] <Defi_> mfaroukg: the clone was successful, by 'sd names', are you referring to the partition UUIDs?
[11:27] <Defi_> im assuming its trying to boot off the incorrect UUID, so i need to correct either the partition UUIDs on the new hard drive or correct the UUIDs grub wants to boot with
[11:28] <Nikkk> @JackStoner : Any other solution ?? :-s
[11:28] <mfaroukg> Defi_, you can check the UUID using the  sudo grub-probe -t fs_uuid /boot/grub
[11:28] <bazhang> !blkid | Defi_
[11:28] <Defi_> bazhang: thanks
[11:28] <zamba> how do i lock down the homepage for firefox?
[11:29] <Defi_> but now, how do i find out the new hdds UUIDs inorder to update grub?
[11:29] <erUSUL> Defi_: you have to correct grubs ... boot with a livecd chroot to the install and do a « update-grub » ?
[11:29] <erUSUL> !uuid
[11:29] <bazhang> Defi_, running sudo update-grub ?
[11:29] <mfaroukg> Defi_, you can read help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling for more details
[11:29] <Defi_> i see... guess ill need to put the live image on a flash drive :/
[11:30] <Defi_> boss is gonna kill me if this takes much longer.. thanks for the help
[11:34] <herpaderp> hi guys, I'm trying to give my external hard disk execute permissions when I mount it but I odn't seem to be doing very well... can someone help me with this?
[11:34] <Shankar> Is there any error message displayed?
[11:35] <herpaderp> No, I just can't change the 'allow program to execute' checkbox
[11:35] <erUSUL> herpaderp: you want to be able to execute binaries from the disk? what filesystem is this?
[11:35] <herpaderp> It's a FAT32 system
[11:35] <shai> Hi :) Does anyone know how to exit Full Screen from grdesktop?
[11:35] <mynameistux> when I try to run sudo chown -R mynameistux /home/mynameistux/Music/ I get : Operation not permitted
[11:36] <retributionlxi> is the USB install for ubuntu still broken?
[11:36] <mynameistux> I don't own my own music directory because I mounted a /dev/sda1 at /home/mynameistux/music
[11:36] <mynameistux> how do I own that drive, and all the files in it?
[11:36] <bazhang> retributionlxi, never knew it was
[11:36] <|GoLTaR|> hi all, i have problem... i try to reboot my ubuntu... and when i do reboot it say.. The program 'reboot' can be found in the following packages:  * upstart * molly-guard Try: apt-get install <selected package> :( i try to upadte the ubutnu ... but its the same :(
[11:36] <herpaderp> retributionlxi: I think the disk creator that comes with ubuntu doesn't work for 10.10, but the unetboot thing did it for me
[11:37] <retributionlxi> alright
[11:37] <retributionlxi> ill try unetbootin
[11:37] <herpaderp> Good luck!
[11:37] <uncola> does unetbootin work for ubuntu server?
[11:37] <naftilos76> anyone familiar with any KDE SIP app that supports sending SMS as well just like Twinkle?
[11:37] <herpaderp> I'm not sure - I used it for Ubuntu Desktop
[11:38] <retributionlxi> in unetbootin, what is the um, Ubuntu 10.10 HDMedia package?
[11:38] <retributionlxi> That's an option
[11:38] <naftilos76> sorry! any window manager! not KDE...
[11:39] <herpaderp> I have no idea... :X
[11:40] <ratasxy> hola
[11:40] <retributionlxi> sigh anyone know of a torrent mirror for ubuntu 10.10? the official ubuntu dl from the main page is slow as ever
[11:41] <zamba> what's the correct package to install - flashplugin-installer or flashplugin-non-fre?
[11:41] <zamba> non-free?
[11:42] <ratasxy> hello
[11:42] <ratasxy> I have a problem with my Ubuntu 10.10, to change the mac with the mac ifconfig or macchanger change but on returning to lift the network card is returned to the original mac
[11:42] <iroquois> hello everyone.Is there a voice chat room for ubuntu?
[11:42] <ratasxy> hola
[11:42] <ratasxy> tengo un problema con mi ubuntu 10.10, al cambiar la mac con ifconfig o macchanger la mac cambia pero al volver a levantar la tarjeta de red esta vuelve a la  mac original
[11:43] <uncola> Iroquois I don't think so
[11:43] <retributionlxi> !es
[11:43] <iroquois> ty uncola
[11:43] <iroquois> pity
[11:43] <Shankar> sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[11:43] <mynameistux> when I try to run sudo chown -R mynameistux /home/mynameistux/Music/ I get : Operation not permitted
[11:43] <mynameistux> I don't own my own music directory because I mounted a /dev/sda1 at /home/mynameistux/music
[11:44] <mynameistux> how do I own that drive, and all the files in it?
[11:44] <uncola> iroquois, are there voice chat rooms for other things?  where do I find them?
[11:44] <mynameistux> lol, I don't have the permissions to change the permissons
[11:44] <iroquois> not that i know of .
[11:45] <iroquois> i was hoping there'd be something like paltalk
[11:45] <iroquois> you could maybe try paltalk express uncola
[11:46] <ratasxy> I have a problem with my Ubuntu 10.10, to change the mac with the mac ifconfig or macchanger change but on returning to lift the network card is returned to the original mac
[11:46] <iroquois> it doesn't work for me cuz of my 2.9 kbps dialup connection
[11:46] <przemek_> I need to mount smb volume with exec permissions for the files. Is there any way to do that?
[11:50] <ugliefrog> is there a file that will start up and shutdown times?
[11:51] <ugliefrog> i mean show
[11:52] <idodeisuke> i just upgraded from ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 and suddenly the network manager says networking disabled and the resp menu entry in the right click menu of the "systray"-icon is grayed out
[11:52] <idodeisuke> i deleted the networkmanager state file
[11:52] <idodeisuke> i tried to do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:52] <idodeisuke> NO effect
[11:53] <idodeisuke> does anyone know here what to do
[11:53] <idodeisuke> i'm forced to write this from my win xp because the net access i ubuntu isnt wokin anymore ;( ;( ;(
[11:54] <lea123> Mine is a 2 day old installation and today I find the Panel missing only the desktop background  is being displayed....
[11:55] <Adly> hello
[11:58] <samfisher> how do i stop X in ubuntu but sill hava a console? i need to install nvidia drivers
[11:58] <gogeta> samfisher: sudo service gdm stop
[11:58] <nikitis> hit ctrl alt f6,  then sudo service gdm stop
[11:59] <freakynl> Hi, I'm running ubuntu 10.10 on a server and I am noticing 'bad' read speeds on my md raid-1. I get about 110MB/s read from 2 disk raid-1. This is the same as just 1 disk. I get about the same write speed to the md raid. To me this indicates that the reads aren't striped, any ideas what might be causing this and/or how to verify it?
[11:59] <gogeta> ctrl alt f1
[11:59] <gogeta> thre 6
[11:59] <gogeta> heh
[11:59] <gogeta> threw 6
[11:59] <gogeta> all drop to console
[12:00] <ugliefrog> is there a boot up and shut down log in ubuntu somwhere?
[12:00] <freakynl> ugliefrog: /var/log/messages?
[12:00] <uncola> doesn't dmesg show boot up messages?
[12:00] <freakynl> ugliefrog: also look at dmesg
[12:00] <ugliefrog> freakynl, ok ill look
[12:00] <freakynl> uncola: only if the buffer hasn't filled up yet
[12:01] <uncola> oic
[12:01] <idodeisuke> can anyone help me with the network manager?
[12:02] <gogeta> idodeisuke: just ask
[12:02] <gogeta> !ask
[12:04] <idodeisuke> gogeta: the network manager says that networling is disabled and all efforts to change this have failed (ticking the enable networking menu entry becuase it is grayed out, deleting the networkmanager.state file, using sudo /etc/init.d/networking start or restart). do you know what to do?
[12:05] <gogeta> idodeisuke: yea that likes to bug itsself gone
[12:05] <idodeisuke> but what i am supposed to do
[12:05] <idodeisuke> ?
[12:05] <idodeisuke> how to solve this?
[12:05] <Guest45329> OSCAR*******************************************************
[12:05] <Guest45329>  if (isset($_REQUEST["nif"])){
[12:05] <Guest45329>                          $nif=$_REQUEST["nif"];
[12:05] <Guest45329>                          $RP->esborraPropietari($nif);
[12:05] <Guest45329>                      }
[12:05] <Guest45329>                      break;
[12:06] <FloodBot3> Guest45329: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:06] <gogeta> idodeisuke: use a alternet one i use wicd myself make you you uninstall the network mamanger after installing wicd then reboot
[12:06] <DutchCow94> Hello
[12:06] <idodeisuke> ok
[12:06] <idodeisuke> using wicd
[12:06] <gogeta> idodeisuke: otherwise wicd will fail
[12:06] <DutchCow94> WICD sucks
[12:06] <idodeisuke> ok
[12:06] <gogeta> DutchCow94: better then his bugged network manager with all efferts to restore failing
[12:07] <idodeisuke> I'll try and say you if it helped :)
[12:07] <scaraffe> Is there a command called "screen_it" in ubuntu?
[12:07] <DutchCow94> Can everybody read this?
[12:07] <scaraffe> found here: http://github.com/vishvananda/novascript/blob/master/nova.sh#L153
[12:07] <idodeisuke> from ubuntu, i hope :) :)
[12:07] <DutchCow94> Lol
[12:07] <DutchCow94> My school blocks IRC connections. Online via webchat now
[12:08] <DutchCow94> otherwise i use Xchat
[12:08] <gogeta> idodeisuke: yea you have to remove network-manager after installing wicd or they like to conflict
[12:09] <idodeisuke> why does not apt-get resolve this conflict automatically?
[12:09] <gogeta> idodeisuke: dispite youur network amager being invasable
[12:10] <gogeta> idodeisuke: it tryes to then reinstalls it for some reasion
[12:10] <idodeisuke> gogeta: strange indeed
[12:10] <idodeisuke> ok i'll download the necessary debs under win and install it under linux
[12:10] <idodeisuke> THX for the info
[12:11] <gogeta> idodeisuke: yea its a pain when that decides to disapper disabiling your wifi
[12:11] <BajK> why doesnt plymouth ask-question work? it does not show up a input dialog (or its message) like ask-for-password does
[12:11] <gogeta> idodeisuke: at least  via gui
[12:11] <BajK> and is there an "or" operator for bash scripts? like if [ $1 = "dothat" or -z $1 ]; then ...
[12:12] <gogeta> idodeisuke: wicd also has a gtk gui for it i beleve
[12:16] <gogeta> warning server no#32 has exploded
[12:16] <gogeta> lol
[12:17] <EpicFialGuy> what extension is used for shellscirpts?
[12:17] <EpicFialGuy> is it .sh?
[12:17] <gogeta> yep
[12:17] <LjL> EpicFialGuy: sometimes .sh, but it doesn't really matter.
[12:17] <EpicFialGuy> okay, thanks
[12:18] <idodeisuke> bye
[12:18] <gogeta> heh
[12:18] <gogeta> guess i fixed his issue
[12:18] <rob_p> BajK: use double pipe || for OR operator
[12:18] <EpicFialGuy> if i wanted to execute that shellscript, would i run it with sh command or just ./ ?
[12:19] <gogeta> ./script.sh
[12:19] <EpicFialGuy> then what does sh script.sh ?
[12:19] <LjL> EpicFialGuy: run it with ./ so it'll automatically pick the right shell (if it was correctly specified in the file's header, like #!/bin/bash)
[12:19] <gogeta> you can do both
[12:19] <LjL> EpicFialGuy: to be able to run it with ./name, though, it needs to be marked as executable
[12:19] <EpicFialGuy> ./ is just byte-efficient?
[12:19] <BajK> got it already
[12:19] <BajK> thx
[12:19] <gogeta> less typing anyways
[12:20] <EpicFialGuy> okay, thank you gentlemen
[12:20] <e-anima> hi
[12:20] <rob_p> BajK: But your syntax will not work unless you do, "if [[ "$1" = "dothat" || -z "$1" ]]; then...
[12:21] <e-anima> has anyone some numbers for the performance decrase when emulation windows/software in virtualbox
[12:21] <BajK> rob_p: already got it, thx
[12:21] <rob_p> BajK: welcome
[12:21] <gogeta> e-anima: im short alot
[12:21] <BajK> rob_p: can you tell me how a input password or answer to a question in plymouth (plymouht --ask-for-password) is handed over to a bash script?
[12:21] <BajK> so that I can check it after the user hit return?
[12:21] <BajK> like in $1 or $2 or so?
[12:22] <gogeta> e-anima: if wine can run it its alot less of a overhead the using a vm
[12:22] <gogeta> then
[12:22] <rob_p> BajK: Nope.  Sorry but I've not played with plymouth.
[12:22] <e-anima> year thats correct
[12:22] <e-anima> jea thats normal, but for example if you emulate ...say photoshop in virtualbox, how much speed is used by emulation 1:10. i meant it like that
[12:23] <e-anima> did not find anything on that.
[12:23] <gogeta> e-anima: well it very oh alot things thats why
[12:24] <e-anima> :)
[12:24] <gogeta> e-anima: some prosser like ht are ment for vm so handel emu alot better
[12:24] <e-anima> my problem is that i am sick of rebooting everytme i need lightroom2
[12:24] <gogeta> e-anima: well app wise on a good machine it shouldent hinder you to mutch
[12:25] <e-anima> define good ^^
[12:25] <gogeta> e-anima: quad core
[12:25] <e-anima> quadcore 2,4 ghz, 4gb ram
[12:25] <e-anima> i think i must try that myself and compare that under win native/ linux vbox
[12:25] <gogeta> e-anima: yea shouldent hinder that amchine alot
[12:26] <gogeta> e-anima: quads are ht so they are ment for bms
[12:26] <gogeta> vms
[12:26] <e-anima> thx gogeta
[12:26] <gogeta> e-anima: of course nativ is always the fastest
[12:27] <e-anima> yes thats consequentially
[12:27] <gogeta> e-anima: virtul box hand handel multi core so you can give the vm 2 of your cores
[12:28] <BuenGenio> hello
[12:28] <gogeta> e-anima: cuple gigs of ram it should be responsiv enough
[12:28] <BuenGenio> where do I get more SpamAssassin rules from?
[12:28] <e-anima> :)
[12:29] <jussi> How does one install the unity desktop on a standard ubuntu (maverick)
[12:29] <_ramo> hi
[12:30] <gogeta> jussi: do yourself a faver and dont
[12:30] <e-anima> unity? like unity 3d?
[12:30] <jussi> gogeta: thats not really helpful here.
[12:30] <DJones> jussi: I thought there was a ppa for unity, or is that something else I'm thinking of
[12:30] <LjL> jussi: sudo apt-get install unity or sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook will work
[12:30] <jussi> LjL: ahh, thanks
[12:30] <e-anima> ah ok no :)
[12:30] <gogeta> jussi: it sucks on a massiv scale stabilty and usabalty wise atm
[12:30] <Prateek_Mohan> i downloaded the 64 bit Ubuntu 10.10 version. It didn't detect any proprietary software and on giving the command lspci -v in terminal I get the capabities for my ethernet card and wireless card as "Access is denied"....any suggestions as to what I should be doing?
[12:30] <LjL> jussi: then you just pick it from GDM
[12:31] <_ramo> i've got a user called "informix" with a password. if i do a su informix     i'm prompted for the password. but afterwards if i do a whoami, i'm still the user i was before and not informix
[12:31] <Shungo73> hi, i need some little help regarding terminal settings, is there someone who can help me please?
[12:31] <Rickardo1> is it normal with 2-3 seconds delay when connecting to ssh server before password prompt comes up?
[12:31] <jussi> LjL: got you. appreciated.
[12:31] <rchavik> _ramo, try su - informix
[12:31] <LjL> Rickardo1: yes
[12:32] <gogeta> e-anima: its there netbook ui and soon to be desktop ui but it will be alot diffrent by then atm its not that great
[12:32] <jussi> LjL: are the items which are pretty essential in the netbook meta that I might miss?
[12:32] <e-anima> Rickardo1, its normal like firefox need some ms to get a site ^^
[12:32] <_ramo> rchavik: this doesn't help i'm sill the user that i was before
[12:32] <oberdada> hello ubuntu gurus. i remaster-sys'd an ubuntu 10.04 live cd. however, when i try to install from that cd, i find that it has no installer. what now?
[12:32] <EpicFialGuy> ive a problem with a script
[12:32] <Prateek_Mohan> i downloaded the 64 bit Ubuntu 10.10 version. It didn't detect any proprietary software and on giving the command lspci -v in terminal I get the capabities for my ethernet card and wireless card as "Access is denied"....any suggestions as to what I should be doing?
[12:32] <Rickardo1> e-anima: but I am on same lan
[12:32] <e-anima> Rickardo1 me too ^^
[12:33] <EpicFialGuy> #!/bin/bash
[12:33] <EpicFialGuy> cd '/media/NTFS3/Quake3/'
[12:33] <EpicFialGuy> ./quake3-smp.x86
[12:33] <e-anima> my debian dev server needs some ms too
[12:33] <Shungo73> Toooooooooooooooo many people and no answers.....
[12:33] <EpicFialGuy> and i get msgs that it cannot cd to that directory
[12:33] <gogeta> EpicFialGuy: you probly dont need the '
[12:33] <LjL> jussi, can't say for sure, but i don't think so
[12:33] <EpicFialGuy> k, brb
[12:33] <enyc> Prateek_Mohan: i get that too, i dont think its a fault
[12:33] <rchavik> _ramo, can you login as informix directly?
[12:34] <jussi> LjL: k, thanks
[12:34] <LjL> jussi: still, if you already have GNOME installed, ubuntu-netbook will be just a few megabytes
[12:34] <e-anima> Prateek_Mohan sudo?
[12:34] <enyc> Prateek_Mohan: i think 'sudo' (root) is needed to access some of the data
[12:34] <LjL> jussi: (when i say GNOME i mean ubuntu-desktop)
[12:34] <jussi> yup
[12:34] <EpicFialGuy> cd: 2: can't cd to /media/NTFS3/Quake3
[12:34] <e-anima> [14:33] <Shungo73> Toooooooooooooooo many people and no answers.....
[12:35] <e-anima> wats the quesion?
[12:35] <e-anima> whats
[12:35] <EpicFialGuy> this is the same as with ' signs around the destination
[12:35] <_ramo> rchavik: you mean on logon screen?
[12:35] <_ramo> no
[12:35] <oberdada> why doesnt my remastersys'd ubuntu 10.04 live cd have any installer (for installing ubuntu)?
 as soon as the boot up begins my net is off....tried certain commands on Ubuntu threads....didnt help...even wifi is off.....
[12:35] <gogeta> EpicFialGuy: probly dont even need the bin bash eyther for a simple script like that
[12:36] <EpicFialGuy> gogeta: dont tell me i dont need a script for that either
[12:36] <L-----D> Hi I want make a new machine dedicated for Ubuntu, what hardwares should I choose to make if running fast and smooth
[12:36] <EpicFialGuy> cd: 1: can't cd to /media/NTFS3/Quake3
[12:36] <gogeta> EpicFialGuy: not relly you can make a launcher or shortcut to start that
[12:36] <e-anima> L-----D? thats a tricky question. server?
[12:36] <EpicFialGuy> gogeta: that's what I want to do
[12:37] <theannihilator> how do you find out your ip addy in ubuntu?
[12:37] <gogeta> EpicFialGuy: then hit the make new launcher
[12:37] <L-----D> e-anima, No, it's a desktop pc and mainly for coding and compiling
[12:37] <EpicFialGuy> gogeta: the problem is that normal shortcuts made with nautilus try to run it my home folder and not the app folder
[12:37] <e-anima> fast cpu, enough ram, fast hdd?
[12:37] <gogeta> EpicFialGuy: heh you set the dir to go to in the launcher
[12:37] <rchavik> _ramo, the only thing i can think of is that the informix user was given /bin/false or something as its shell
[12:37] <e-anima> everything fast! :)
[12:38] <EpicFialGuy> gogeta: and then it can't read my .cfg
[12:38] <e-anima> theannihilator ifconfig!
[12:38] <EpicFialGuy> gogeta: im not gonna clone and update my settings every time i boot another os
[12:39] <theannihilator> thanks e-anima i appreciate it
[12:39] <ravionrails> how to copy only symbolic links from one place to another place
[12:39] <_ramo> rchavik: where can i see this? the problem is, that i want to create folders in a directy where informix is owner and creator... when i do a sudo glfiles  that i get the error that glfiles isn't found
[12:39] <e-anima> theannihilator butsome tip, you should read something about basic shell commands ^^
[12:39] <aeon-ltd> L-----D: depends what you plan to run, i'm on a P4 512mb and a intel integrated card, and i hardly suffer slowdowns unless i'm running several flash applications, or opening 15-20 tabs simultaneously (but its kinda biased as i'm not on ubuntu or gnome :) )
[12:40] <theannihilator> e-anima: i some basics but i forgot the ip command cuase i kept thinking it was the stupid windows command
[12:40] <theannihilator> ipconfig
[12:40] <oberdada> hello, maybe i'm not phrasing my question right: the ubuntu 10.04 live cd comes with an installer. i added some applications and remastersys'd my own live cd. however, i cant find the installer. how can i install from that live cd
[12:40] <aeon-ltd> theannihilator: ifconfig
[12:40] <e-anima> theannihilator, make some not, that helps in the future. i acually did that :)
[12:40] <theannihilator> aeon-ltd: e-anima already gave it to me but thanks
[12:40] <theannihilator> i need too
[12:40] <aeon-ltd> theannihilator: sorry wasn't reading earlier :)
[12:40] <rchavik> _ramo, grep informix /etc/passwd (the last field is the shell)
[12:41] <rchavik> _ramo, also check /var/log/messages for any possible hints on why it disallows su to informix
[12:42] <L-----D> aeon-ltd, my current one is better than that, I mainly coding in Java, compile neeeeed time
[12:42] <uncola> hey guys
[12:42] <L-----D> aeon-ltd, and could be better if gnome running faster
[12:42] <uncola> can any of you recommend a sata card?  doesn't have to be raid
[12:42] <uncola> like what is a quality brand to go with?  3ware, adaptec, rocketraid?
[12:43] <rezeusor> I have an ubuntu box that someone added a ping to init.d
[12:43] <rezeusor> so when you start the device it just keeps pinging
[12:44] <rezeusor> how can I stop that and remove the rc
[12:44] <rezeusor> ?
[12:44] <aeon-ltd> L-----D: depends if you like gnome, just make some upgrades or compromise on a few things e.g. compiz. but i would try out a few other WMs and DEs to see if you'd like a lighter one better, if you wanna compile and work at the same time i reccommend using 2 machines :)
[12:44] <jrib> rezeusor: undo what the person did?
[12:44] <rezeusor> yeah, but I can't login, as it just keeps scrolling the ping
[12:44] <jrib> rezeusor: use a live cd
[12:45] <rezeusor> ah
[12:45] <rezeusor> ok
[12:45] <e-anima> which torrent client can you suggest (something small like utorrent, no bloat like azureus)
[12:45] <VirusTB>  i just bought  new HDD, from ebay.. should i shred the contends on teh drive before i format it?
[12:45] <jrib> rezeusor: maybe recovery mode works too, I don't know
[12:45] <rezeusor> what is the command to remove the script from init.d
[12:45] <rezeusor> ?
[12:45] <jrib> rezeusor: are you sure he didn't just put it in /etc/rc.local?
[12:45] <DDM> join #ttl
[12:45] <researcher1> hello everybody
[12:45] <e-anima> VirusTB lo...the seller should have :D
[12:45] <aeMaeth> e-anima, i like deluge
[12:45] <DDM> join #<ttl>
[12:45] <LjL> DDM: try /join #ttl
[12:45] <rezeusor> jrib: no idea, i can't login to see, so i'm assuming a bit
[12:45] <researcher1> :-S
[12:45] <rezeusor> :)
[12:46] <VirusTB> e-anima:  haah i know, but  what should i do... should i just format it?
[12:46] <e-anima> why?
[12:46] <DDM> #melody
[12:46] <VirusTB> e-anima:  i alway want o learm how to shred, so i might do a one pass shred
[12:46] <rezeusor> jrib: booting into slax now
[12:46] <jrib> rezeusor: well if it's in /etc/rc.local, just delete the line there.  If it's an init script in /etc/init.d/, delete it and delete the links in /etc/rc*.d
[12:46] <aeMaeth> e-anima, also, if there's bad info on there, VirusTB doesn't want to take the fall for it
[12:46] <rezeusor> jrib: k, thank you
[12:47] <VirusTB> aeMaeth:  that also :)
[12:47] <aeon-ltd> meheheheheheh
[12:47] <jrib> rezeusor: you can also read « man update-rc.d » to make it a little easier
[12:47] <VirusTB> aeMaeth: e-anima  im running a live CD at the momment ubuntu 10.04  teach me how to shred :)
[12:47] <Moobcheese> i pooped my pants :-)
[12:47] <VirusTB> aeMaeth:  e-anima  its 320GB shouldnt tae long with a simple one pass
[12:48] <DDM> help me
[12:48] <e-anima> thx aeMaeth
[12:48] <aeMaeth> VirusTB, man shred
[12:48] <supe> hi
[12:48] <Guest97195> I installed unbutu 10.10 on a new drive, I went in the bios first and deactivated my other HD but looks like grub was installed on the old HD anyway, how can I install grub on my new HD so I can remove my old one?
[12:48] <supe> !grub
[12:49] <aeMaeth> VirusTB, and i heard someone suggest 25 passes...but the level of insanity you use is up to you
[12:49] <Burnikki> Does someone know if 10.04 has different drivers from 10.10?
[12:49] <supe> Guest97195: See the restoreGrub link
[12:49] <Guest97195> ...before 9.10... so it's not grub anymore in 10.10?
[12:50] <oberdada> hello. i remstersys'ed an ubuntu 10.04 live cd but it doesnt have an installer. ubiquity from the console does not work. how can i install?
[12:50] <VirusTB> aeMaeth:  well im sure the person did a shred already, i bough it from a computer store, on ebay... im just curious and want to give it a shot myself. ( but if i were to seel my HDD im going Guttman 35 passes!)
[12:50] <supe> !burg
[12:51] <supe> marc__: I dunno, I guess so... but I thought I saw it in 10.04
[12:51] <supe> :S
[12:51] <VirusTB> aeMaeth:  but then again, i'll never sell my HDD's... i'll put them in a grinder/ sandpaper them / dip them in acid
[12:51] <aeMaeth> VirusTB, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPWW0QhajIQ this is something i think i referenced
[12:51] <Moobcheese> i microwave my HDDs
[12:51] <supe> VirusTB: No magnets or hard-drive shredders?
[12:51] <bob_62> hello all, anyone know of a good beginners how to on compileing?
[12:51] <supe> bob_62: F9
[12:52] <DDM> i want install build-essential please help me
[12:52] <VirusTB> supe:  oh yea magnets also!
[12:52] <supe> I once used a web frontend to RDP, made specifically for windows, running IIS and utilising ActiveX. Is there a similiar open-source, cross-platform, cross-browser solution?
[12:52] <VirusTB> Moobcheese:  ohh never thought of that... should add that to my list
[12:52] <marc__> supe: thanks, I'll go look for Burg :D
[12:52] <oberdada> hello... anyone out there?
[12:52] <supe> oberdada: Nope
[12:52] <aeMaeth> VirusTB, i also saw something about this forensics guy who spent his spare time repairing dead pendrives so he could read them, he advises smashing them to bits with a hammer before you toss them
[12:53] <supe> aeMaeth: I once won a USB in a competition, found credit-card numbers on the recovered data :O
[12:53] <aeMaeth> supe, what kind of competition?
[12:53] <gogeta> supe: woot free money
[12:53] <aeMaeth> free as in laptops
[12:53] <oberdada> i asked a question several times but got no reply: i made an ubuntu 10.04 live cd with remastersys. however , it didnt include the installer. ubiquity from the console doesnt work. how can i install?
[12:53] <VirusTB> supe:   trucrupt all USB's!
[12:54] <Moobcheese> oberdada, duct-tape it to your hard drive, that always works
[12:54] <ptpt> is there any command that can convert xml to plain text?
[12:55] <gogeta> oberdada: or low level format em
[12:55] <supe> oberdada: Last time I tried, 8.04, it worked fine with ubiquity
[12:55] <supe> :P
[12:55] <Guest64089> what do I need to convert m4a to mp3 with a gui please
[12:55] <oberdada> there is no installer at the system menu
[12:55] <supe> Guest64089: Good eyesight
[12:55] <ravionrails> how to move only symbolic links
[12:56] <gogeta> supe: lol
[12:56] <IdleOne> sarcastic answers are helpful to nobody
[12:56] <Guest64089> supe: is that a program or an attempt at humor?
[12:56] <VirusTB> LMAO  @ supe
[12:56] <aeMaeth> Guest64089, audacity?
[12:56] <Moobcheese> lololol
[12:57] <r3l1c> does the generic kernel have acl support by default?
[12:57] <Guest64089> aeMaeth: I can try that
[12:57] <dietricha> how do install the right dev headers and makefiles for my kernel version?
[12:57] <gogeta> aeMaeth: heck avidemux handbrake the tons of other ffmpeg guis  the list goes on
[12:57] <supe> hehe
[12:58] <r3l1c> dietricha: look up kernel-headers (uname -r) or something like that
[12:58] <aeMaeth> gogeta, no
[12:58] <r3l1c> So does anyone know if the generic Kernel has ACL support enabled by default?
[12:58] <oberdada> when i invoke ubiquity from the console it crashes
[12:59] <oberdada> and there is no installer application visible from any of the menus
[12:59] <SeMeKh> How should I reverse-play an audio file?
[12:59] <oberdada> can anyone please help?
[12:59] <gogeta> aeMaeth: what they all use ffmpeg lol they all should handel audio only
[12:59] <r3l1c> I think "Mixxx" has that function SeMeKh
[13:00] <r3l1c> ACL support in the generic kernel? Is it there?
[13:00] <aeMaeth> gogeta, all my videos sound like this, can you explain? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCkfpWx6q30
[13:00] <aanand123> SeMeKh:Audacity should do that as well!!
[13:00] <dietricha> r3l1c: thanks. doesn't exist for my kernel though (i've only ever used default...)
[13:00] <gogeta> aeMaeth: lol
[13:00] <jrib> r3l1c: yes
[13:00] <gogeta> aeMaeth: woa outch
[13:01] <jrib> dietricha: what doesn't exist?
[13:01] <gogeta> aeMaeth:  semmed fine at first lol
[13:01] <dietricha> jrib: kernel-headers package
[13:01] <oberdada> is it possible that remastersys does not make installable live cd's at all?
[13:01] <r3l1c> I know its capable I am just not sure if it is enabled.
[13:02] <jrib> dietricha: linux-headers, but why do you want them?
[13:02] <r3l1c> oberdada:  yes it does, are you using a developement version?
[13:02] <dietricha> jrib: trying to profile something with systemtap, which requires them
[13:02] <L-----D> does anyone use SSD drive?
[13:02] <jrib> r3l1c: just add the acl option to the partition you want to use ACLs on in your fstab and remount
[13:02] <aeMaeth> gogeta, yea, it's something about the vocals
[13:02] <VirusTB> aeMaeth:  e-anima  hmmm DBAN seems much easier and simple for shredding HDD's
[13:02] <jrib> L-----D: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[13:02] <gogeta> VirusTB: or a oncoming train
[13:03] <gogeta> VirusTB: my methed
[13:03] <oberdada> r3I1c i dont know what u mean by development version. i simply installed ubuntu 10.04, added some applications (R and kile), and then remastersysd my installation
[13:03] <r3l1c> jrib: sweet, So that will confirm access with ADDS?
[13:03] <VirusTB> gogeta: haah well i just got the HDD on ebay, and wann aplay arround with it
[13:03] <Ycarene> Does ubuntu 64-bit support a multilib environment?
[13:03] <jrib> r3l1c: I don't know what ADDS is
[13:03] <IdleOne> !offtopic | gogeta aeMaeth VirusTB
[13:03] <r3l1c> Acive Directory.... I am trying to replace a WIndows file server with a linux file server at work.
[13:03] <VirusTB> Yes Sir! oh great IdleOne
[13:03] <L-----D> jrib, I've read something for ssd linux compatibility, like trim
[13:04] <jrib> r3l1c: oh, I have no idea.  I've just used setfacl and getfacl to play with ACLs in the past
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> L-----D:  i think thats a new feature in BTRFS, or the latest kernels.. ive never messed withit.
[13:04] <gogeta> L-----D: trim is most firmsware these days for ssds
[13:04] <VirusTB> IdleOne:  actually it is on topic :S  talking about file shreding
[13:04] <L-----D> jrib, I wanna know if anyone has successful experience
[13:04] <r3l1c> thanks
[13:04] <IdleOne> VirusTB: actually it isn't ontopic because it has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[13:05] <VirusTB> IdleOne: agreed
[13:05] <gogeta> L-----D: its your old school ssds that had shotty wareleveling and need trim at the softwhere level
[13:05] <Jigboot> getting jiggy wid ubuntu
[13:05] <Jigboot> cuz i beez uh leenux usin jigaboo
[13:06] <prov> I tried following the advice here: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2008/10/encrypt-cddvds.html to make an encrypted optical disk but at the step to mount the aespipe product here is what the terminal says "ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument, requested cipher or key length (256 bits) not supported by kernel"   Any ideas?
[13:06] <Jigboot> tired of negroes?
[13:06] <Jigboot> sick of their monkeyshines?
[13:06] <Jigboot> Join Chimpout forum
[13:06] <L-----D> gogeta, last time I read it, users still suffering from like random freeze
[13:07] <Ycarene> Anybody know if ubuntu for 64 bit processors supports running 32 bit applications?
[13:07] <gogeta> L-----D: yea that tends to happon when you dont use swap to avoide write
[13:07] <FlyOnZeWall> I try to import files to pitivi, but it doesn't show anything on the timeline, and as soon as I try to import a second clip it says an error has occured, anybody have any clues on how to troubleshoot this?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Ycarene:  It runs 32bit flash by default.. so its doabel i guess.
[13:08] <Ycarene> Well 32 bit flash is a bit different (my guess is nspluginwrapper)
[13:08] <FlyOnZeWall> also, does anybody know why the syslog is filled to the brim with "input input5: event field not found" ?
[13:08] <bob_62> anyone know a channel for beginer help
[13:08] <Ycarene> Is debugging on for the input or usb subsystem in your kernel FlyOnZeWall?
[13:08] <gogeta> Ycarene: is32lib can handel many 32 bit apps on a 64 bit system
[13:08] <gogeta> ia32
[13:09] <L-----D> gogeta, so what do I need to do
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> I was thinking flash used the ia32lib stuff.
[13:09] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there any way to install ubuntu with grub2 on the partition, rather than on the mbr, so I can use my own bootloader and chainload grub2?
[13:09] <gogeta> it does
[13:09] <L-----D> gogeta, for 10.10 64bit
[13:09] <Ycarene> gogeta - Do the proprietary graphics drivers install a 32 bit version of opengl by default?
[13:09] <gogeta> L-----D: do?
[13:09] <FlyOnZeWall> Ycarene, not that I know of, where can one set/get that?
[13:10] <Ycarene> FlyOnZeWall - Not sure in ubuntu, but I had a similar issue with my g15 keyboard and I recompiled my kernel without usb debugging and it went away.
[13:10] <L-----D> gogeta, like choose specific file system, is there any pre-requirement
[13:10] <FlyOnZeWall> Ycarene, awesome =)
[13:11] <FlyOnZeWall> Ycarene, and here I was thinking thank God I'm passed the kernel recompiling days now since I use ubuntu
[13:11] <FlyOnZeWall> "with ubuntu I can finally just focus on my work"
[13:11] <gogeta> L-----D: oh you a ssd drive well you do wanna avoide writes so avoide swap
[13:12] <Ycarene> FlyOnZeWall - Well, there may be a way in ubuntu without doing that, I'm not sure.
[13:12] <gogeta> L-----D: a fswith no jurnel like ext2 say is best but i use ext4 tweaked to writeback
[13:12] <jetienne> !info ruby
[13:13] <prov> Is it possible to install cryptoloop anymore I want to use this guide to create crypto CDs: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2008/10/encrypt-cddvds.html
[13:13] <gogeta> L-----D: being im shure you dont whant data loss on a crash etc
[13:13] <zidoh> hi, i'm looking to get libmysqlclient.so.15 on ubuntu lucid, and what i find is that it seems to need a package "libmysqlclient15off" which isn't available in lucid anymore.. anybody got any clues?
[13:14] <L-----D> gogeta, sure, I hava a nas though
[13:14]  * Moobcheese has no clue.. about anything
[13:14] <bob_62> New User here. trying to learn how to compile a tar.gz Please help
[13:14] <jdsfgjdskgh> how can i do it?
[13:14] <jrib> bob_62: your first step is to do everything to avoid it.  What are you trying to compile?
[13:14] <IdleOne> bob_62: what is it you are trying to compile?
[13:15] <gogeta> L-----D: oh a nas it shouldent make any difrence with that
[13:15] <bob_62> qyachi
[13:15] <gogeta> L-----D: they use normal harddisk
[13:16] <gogeta> L-----D: my nextbook has a solid state drive
[13:16] <bob_62> i'm feeling adventurious & want to give it a shot
[13:16] <gogeta> netbook
[13:16] <jdsfgjdskgh> how do i install internet explorer?
[13:16] <jdsfgjdskgh> plz help
[13:16] <gogeta> jdsfgjdskgh: you on drugs
[13:16] <jdsfgjdskgh> i am new here sorry
[13:16] <IdleOne> bob_62: no need to compile it. there is a PPA. sear for gyachi PPA it will give you a link to launchpad.net follow instructions on that page and you should be setup in a couple minutes
[13:17] <gogeta> jdsfgjdskgh: linux does not have ie
[13:17] <jdsfgjdskgh> i have no drugs sorry no for sale
[13:17] <Moobcheese> bogart
[13:17] <L-----D> gogeta, which brand?
[13:17] <jdsfgjdskgh> how do i install internet explorer in ubuntu?
[13:17] <gogeta> jdsfgjdskgh: we have firefox and googe chrome
[13:17] <jdsfgjdskgh> i need help plz
[13:17] <gogeta> you dont
[13:17] <bob_62> the newest ver. isnt in packages onlt tar.gz
[13:17] <jdsfgjdskgh> no internet explorer?
[13:17] <tarzeau> jdsfgjdskgh: no
[13:18] <IdleOne> bob_62: then you need to install "build-essential" to be able to compile
[13:18] <prov> Is it possible to install cryptoloop anymore? I want to use this guide to create crypto CDs: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2008/10/encrypt-cddvds.html
[13:18] <bob_62> did it
[13:18] <shashidhar> python speech module
[13:18] <gogeta> jdsfgjdskgh: firefox can do everything ie can do and more
[13:18] <red2kic> jdsfgjdskgh: internet explosion is baaaaaaad
[13:18] <prov> I have used sudo modprobe cryptoloop after installing loop-aes-utils but the module is not found.
[13:18] <tarzeau> gogeta: so can chromium
[13:18] <gogeta> yep
[13:18] <tarzeau> red2kic: at least it's faster than firefox
[13:19]  * Moobcheese wonders if adblock works properly on chromium yet
[13:19] <gogeta> nope
[13:19] <gogeta> suppost to on 4
[13:20] <judgen> I am using a radeon x1650 and the screen keeps flickering and doing all kinds of wierd stuff for me. Could it be due to kms or lack of? And how do i solve this problem?
[13:20] <Moobcheese> i've noticed firefox gets a bit slow when you put 200 extensions in it
[13:21] <makdisse> hi all
[13:21] <gogeta> Moobcheese: lol so will chrome
[13:21] <tarzeau> Moobcheese: firefox is also slow without extensions
[13:21] <gogeta> Moobcheese: you only need 2 maybe 3 flashblock adblock
[13:22] <gogeta> tarzeau: try video rendering in chrome on a non dule core slowwwwww
[13:22] <Moobcheese> i think i have about a dozen.. yeah i could live without most of em.. but.. but..
[13:22] <prov> Anyone know how to mount an encrypted cd with dm-crypt using some kind of option with mount. I encrypted it with aespipe.
[13:22] <gogeta> tarzeau: being they use there own sucky ffmpeg
[13:22] <VirusTB> whats the name of the partitioning tool in  a Live CD?
[13:22] <tarzeau> gogeta: i do video rendering with mplayer not with the browser
[13:22] <Moobcheese> hell i cant even remember what they are nemmind why i wanted them
[13:22] <tarzeau> VirusTB: gparted? parted? qtparted?
[13:23] <VirusTB> tarzeau:  isnt gparted a live CD its seld?
[13:23] <VirusTB> self*
[13:23] <makdisse> I have 3 network interfaces on a server, eth0 - internet(200*), eth1 - localnet(192.168*), eth2 - intranet(10.*), when im with eth0 and eth1 up, the internet goes fine, when I put the eth2 up, it changes the route table, and the internet stops. How can I redirect only the 10.* requests to the eth2 interface and the rest to the eth0?
[13:24] <Moobcheese> ATI + linux = DERP
[13:24] <prov> Is there a way to pipe output from genisoimage to some kind of crypto thing to make a crypto cd?
[13:24] <gogeta> makdisse: ll nics need a diffrent ip rnage and subnet to play nice
[13:24] <gogeta> range
[13:24] <ballpark> makdisse: iptables?
[13:24] <makdisse> ballpark: or route?
[13:24] <makdisse> gogeta: what you mean?
[13:24] <gogeta> makdisse: if both try to use 10.234.232.x
[13:24] <red2kic> VirusTB: gparted (Gnome/GParted Partition Editor), there also are gparted livecd available if you need it.
[13:24] <gogeta> they fail and die
[13:25] <gogeta> lol
[13:25] <makdisse> gogeta: where I should define this range, in iptables or route?
[13:25] <ballpark> makdisse: IDK. Never used either :)
[13:25] <gogeta> makdisse: to multi nic 1 box they all need diffrent ip ranges and subnets to work at one or they step on one another
[13:25] <VirusTB> red2kic:  thanks i found it under System>Administrtion... i was lookking under System>Preferences. tarzeau
[13:26] <gogeta> makdisse: on the nics themselfs
[13:26] <lucas_> hi everyone! Created a local mirror using apt-mirror. Have mirrored some ppa's too. How can I clean my local mirror after an update?
[13:29] <gogeta> makdisse: so the one on the net you leave alone the other 2 set diffret ip ranges and subnets
[13:29] <idodeisuke> gogeta: wicd is driving me apeshít INSANE! It does have problems with wpa2 so i have to downgrade to the karmic package version
[13:29] <makdisse> gogeta: do I set it in the interfaces file? or with iptables?
[13:30] <gogeta> idodeisuke: that wpa bug is due to the network -manager still being installed
[13:30] <idodeisuke> no i have uninstalledit
[13:30] <idodeisuke> even purged ot
[13:30] <gogeta> idodeisuke: it will stop giving you the badd password error when you remove network-manager and reboot
[13:30] <idodeisuke> ok
[13:30] <eriksson25>  Hi, Anyone know the comand for setting a users home folder. I have created a user test. And he shuld have home folder /hdd/users/test but when I log in with ssh with test it cant find the home folder and points to root
[13:30] <idodeisuke> i'll try
[13:31] <CarlFK> eriksson25: adduser  [options]  [--home  DIR]
[13:31] <tarzeau> eriksson25: look at /etc/passwd
[13:32] <droope> Hiya! I am using ubuntu 8.0.4, and trying to connect to the repos in order to do some apt-getting. :) As of today, everything I try gives me a 404 error. Any clues on how to proceed? I have tried to install pgadmin3 postgresql with no success
[13:32] <prov> I have installed loop-aes-utils and when I use "sudo modprobe cryptoloop" it does not find the module. What do I do?
[13:33] <aurilliance> :( ubuntu software center doesn't start for me. When I try running software-center from the shell I get "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h: 640: elf_machine_rel_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xff) == 8' failed!"
[13:33] <aurilliance> Anyone know what that means? There are 0 google hits for it
[13:33] <Dcite> droope: Have you tried reloading the repos first?
[13:33] <droope> No. How do I do that?
[13:34] <Dcite> droope: How are you doing this? With apt-get or synaptic?
[13:34] <CarlFK> eriksson25: or if you have created it: usermod, --home HOME_DIR            The users new login directory.
[13:34] <droope> apt-get :)
[13:34] <Dcite> droope: "apt-get update" or click Reload inside Synaptic
[13:34] <shashidhar> which is the best python audio module for speech
[13:34] <shashidhar> in linux
[13:34] <undertuga> hi there folks! I'm having some stress with a new keyboard, while using it on a laptop rigged with ubuntu 10.10... some keys just wont work, even when changing de keyboard layout @ settings!
[13:34] <droope> apt-get update gives me a bunch of Ign and Err messages, i'll send you a screenshot
[13:35] <red2kic> aurilliance: I found some -- Using "inconsistency detected by ld.so" as search term.
[13:35] <Dcite> droope: I can't see screenshots at the moment =/
[13:35] <CarlFK> droope: you know you can cut/paste text from the terminal?
[13:35] <droope> Ok, copy paste then :P didn't think about that
[13:35] <doolph> is ubuntu 10.04 upgrade same like 10.10 version?
[13:36] <Dcite> droope: Does it say any "hit"?
[13:36] <red2kic> aurilliance: Try running memtest86+ when you reboot the xbox. It'll check the RAM.
[13:36] <Dcite> droope: Some errors is normal...
[13:36] <red2kic> aurilliance: Err, the box.
[13:36] <aurilliance> Lol red2kic xbox? lol
[13:36] <droope> Dcite: no
[13:36] <aurilliance> ok
[13:36] <droope> Dcite: Only errors
[13:37] <gogeta> red2kic: xbox lol
[13:37] <Dcite> droope: I wonder if the key file had changed.. you'll need to look around the site for more information..
[13:37] <red2kic> ._.
[13:37] <lucas_> hi everyone! Created a local mirror using apt-mirror. Have mirrored some ppa's too. How can I clean my local mirror after an update?
[13:37] <droope> Dcite: Can I get a new key?
[13:37] <Dcite> droope: The site should have instructions, I'm occupied at the moment
[13:37] <makdisse> how can I redirect the traffic of the network 10.12.0.0 to the interface eth2 and the internet traffic to the eth0 interface?
[13:38] <madurax86> hello, my asus k42jc hangs on kernel start(upon a fresh boot, reboots doesnt cause this) can anyone help to fix this, im using 2.6.36, 2.6.35 also had this problem
[13:38] <red2kic> lucas_: iirc, it's in /etc/mirror.conf -- There should be a line like... "clean URL-GOES-HERE"
[13:38] <droope> Dcite: Thanks! ;)
[13:38] <Dcite> madurax86: Try using a kernel from Karmic.
[13:39] <red2kic> lucas_: "/etc/apt/mirror.list"
[13:39] <madurax86> Dcite: well im using maverick, is there a back port ppa?
[13:39] <prov> Does anyone know how to get cryptoloop running on the latest distros?
[13:39] <doolph> if I have ubuntu 10.04 upgraded, is it good idea to reinstall it with 10.10 ??
[13:39] <madurax86> back or forward port*
[13:40] <doolph> I don't want to upgrade later right now that I don't have lots of services
[13:40] <Dcite> madurax86: I'm sure there should be a guide to installing older kernels somewhere... but can't look up at the moment.. try the keywords mainline-ppa and see what you get?
[13:40] <lucas_> red2kic: normally there is a script generated at the end that cleans only the ubuntu repos. Adding some lines in this file would clean the others too?
[13:40] <gogeta> doolph: shure fresh install
[13:40] <tarzeau> i had 10.10 and upgraded it to 11.04 (unreleased) worked fine for me (needed latest gimp-plugin-registry)
[13:40] <red2kic> doolph: I always hate the thought of upgrading. I find myself favoring clean installs over upgrading -- but you could do both, I suppose.
[13:40] <tarzeau> red2kic: upgrading works great! i love it
[13:40] <CarlFK> lucas_: I used apt-mirror and apt-cach and have just started using http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/squid-deb-proxy  way less issues.
[13:41] <red2kic> lucas_: If you added PPA to the mirror.list -- then you should add clean PPA-LINK too.
[13:41] <tarzeau> red2kic: what doesn't work great is gnome software (since they have badly designed configuration files)
[13:41] <droope> Hiya! I am trying to install things from APT, but nothing gets installed, and apt-get update fails completely. I think the problem is that it attempts to install things from here http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pgadmin3/pgagent_1.8.4-1_i386.deb and that gives me a 404
[13:41] <madurax86> Dcite: ah i see I've tried kernels from that ppa im using generic-pae at the moment, have you had this problem?..upon boot the system works fine though
[13:41] <gogeta> tarzeau: gnome doesent work gear period but shhhh
[13:41] <tarzeau> droope: maybe a mirror problem, try another?
[13:41] <tgywa> will changing IP address on a host disqualifies the certificate signed by an CA authority?
[13:41] <tarzeau> gogeta: i know. i don't use it anyways, i just support gnome users here, where i work
[13:42] <Ste4lth> tgywa: I think so.
[13:42] <red2kic> tarzeau: Ah. I don't mind backing up $HOME and /etc (Only 15MB) :)
[13:42] <gogeta> tarzeau: lxde hear
[13:42] <tarzeau> red2kic: wow. wonder what you work... i've got terabytes (across several hosts :)
[13:42] <tarzeau> gogeta: i'm using windowmaker or amiwm
[13:42] <Ste4lth> tgywa: it depends on whether it's signed to the domain name or the ip address.
[13:42] <tarzeau> gogeta: same config file since a decade of a year :)
[13:42] <lucas_> CarlFK: Since I already have the files on my HDD could I just use squid-deb-proxy and point it to my mirrored folder?
[13:42] <prov> Anyone know anything about cryptoloop?
[13:42] <gogeta> tarzeau: lxde forever
[13:43] <red2kic> tarzeau: 20GB SATA HDD (for linux OS), 2TB SATA HDD (for my personal + media files). Easier to keep things separate should something go wrong. Ho ho ho
[13:44] <gogeta> tarzeau: lxde is awsome for being fast but not butt ulgly like other speedy managers or totaly alcking features. like xfce once was before it got bloted
[13:44] <droope> tarzeau: exelent idea! i'll do that .)
[13:44] <madurax86> Dcite: i
[13:44] <om26er> !test
[13:45] <CarlFK> lucas_:  I am sure there is a way, but I gave up looking when I switched.  ask in #squid
[13:45] <gogeta> om26er: haha bot failed you
[13:45] <madurax86> Dcite: i'll try to find exactly when this happens before finding that i cant even put a bug report
[13:45] <droope> !test 1 = 1
[13:45] <droope> ah ok
[13:45] <lucas_> CarlFK: Thanks!
[13:46] <tarzeau> gogeta: stop. windowmaker and amiwm ARE fast, BUT NOT ugly
[13:46] <droope> !test ' 1 = 1 #
[13:46] <droope> :P
[13:46] <tarzeau> gogeta: however i agree lxde is ugly :)
[13:46] <gogeta> tarzeau: HEY!
[13:47] <tarzeau> gogeta: HEY?
[13:47] <gogeta> om26er: thats ok they took out the good one if you typed windows. used to tell you to check in a mentel home
[13:48] <om26er> lol
[13:48] <gogeta> tarzeau: calling lxde ulgy its pretty
[13:48] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[13:48] <_Groo_> are you guys planning to backport this to maverick? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
[13:48] <tarzeau> gogeta: 14:44 < gogeta> tarzeau: lxde is awsome for being fast but not butt ulgly like other speedy managers or totaly alcking features.
[13:48] <tarzeau> gogeta: ah sorry misunderstood you
[13:48] <Ycarene> Are there any decent launcher/dock apps that don't require compositing to look decent?
[13:48] <om26er> _Groo_, no
[13:49] <workingonwise__> Is it ok to ask Kubuntu questions here? the Kubuntu channel seems to be in a coma
[13:49] <om26er> _Groo_, atleast i dont think so *but* if it might prove to be something really ace ubuntu might but there is always a risk of regressions
[13:49] <red2kic> workingonwise__: Sure.
[13:50] <weaver> hi guyz
[13:50] <gogeta> workingonwise__: thats kde in genrel
[13:50] <weaver> can i install mac applications on ubuntu?
[13:50] <tarzeau> weaver: no
[13:51] <gogeta> weaver: you can on a mac
[13:51] <gogeta> lol
[13:52] <om26er> weaver, mine ?
[13:52] <_Groo_> om26er: well a new kernel package would solve the problem, create something like linux-image-2.6.32-25-highperformance and let us power users play with it
[13:52] <SianaGearz> _Groo_: do you have the lowlatency kernel? it should be in one of the PPAs. if i clean my zen up for release, i could upload that too.
[13:52] <weaver> mine/
[13:52] <weaver> ?
[13:52] <weaver> like wine?
[13:52] <om26er> _Groo_, you can always download latest kernels from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[13:52] <_Groo_> SianaGearz: no ihavent, i usually use mainline or the stock
[13:53] <dmg> /quit
[13:53] <dmg> \quit
[13:53] <om26er> weaver, kiding i dont see it happening ever
[13:53] <gogeta> weaver: cant do osx apps in linux at all unless they are for linux as well
[13:53] <sweed> anybody with ati radeon x1650? i have problem using it with fglrx, any ideas?
[13:53] <_Groo_> om26er: its not in there yet, should be for 2.6.18, mainline just follows latest git
[13:53] <workingonwise__> thanks. So, I am a gnome user since forever. wanted to switch to KDE for various reasins. I have already hit sereral n00b problems that I do not struggle with in gnome. mail on imap not coming down, the "native" irc client not showing channels. the help for both those is not there. so my quastion is this - is the help system so bad still in KDE that I am more productive to stick to what I already know?
[13:53] <SianaGearz> _Groo_: i don't think this patch is quite a miracle. it only works "right" if you do your compiles in another tty. so for people doing both heavy work and multimedia at the same time like me, a preemptive or better BFS/BFQ kernel like zen is a much better choice.
[13:53] <om26er> _Groo_, when 2.6.38 releases it will be there
[13:53] <workingonwise__> I know Gnomes help is as bad, but I know gnome and its apps
[13:54] <i5noc> gnome is now trash
[13:54] <i5noc> and has been for 3 years or so
[13:54] <_Groo_> SianaGearz: whats the ppa for the low latency?
[13:54] <gogeta> weaver: yea not gonna happon being osx is unix and apple locks them to osc they can be easly ported if they whernt well apple
[13:54] <weaver> is adobe photoshop available for linux?
[13:54] <i5noc> try adobe.com
[13:54] <i5noc> (no)
[13:54] <SianaGearz> ehr i meant not only at the same time, i meant from x which sits on onlyone tty
[13:54] <gogeta> weaver: nope we have gimp
[13:54] <_Groo_> weaver: no its not, but you can run it with wine or virtualbox/vmware/kvm
[13:54] <OerHeks> i5noc yes, it is called Gimp
[13:55] <weaver> ok
[13:55] <i5noc> OerHeks, are you incapable of comprehending what you read?
[13:55] <SianaGearz> _Groo_: don't remember. i don't have it installed at the moment. it only reappeared a couple weeks ago, and by then i already had my Zen.
[13:55] <i5noc> OerHeks, lets review:
[13:55] <i5noc> [Nov 16 05:54:21 ] <weaver> is adobe photoshop available for linux?
[13:55] <i5noc> [Nov 16 05:54:27 ] <i5noc> try adobe.com // [Nov 16 05:54:30 ] <i5noc> (no)
[13:55] <i5noc> now please explain what you mean by gimp?
[13:56] <i5noc> because if you mean its a photoshop ALTERNATIVE it's not.
[13:56] <gogeta> !gimp
[13:56] <sipior> i5noc: easy there, tiger.
[13:56] <i5noc> it does not process photo's with the same method as photoshop, MUCH LESS BEING FROM ADOBE
[13:56] <i5noc> sipior, naw, he's gotta learn to read.
[13:56] <SianaGearz> gimp is advanced enough for most image manipulation needs, but not even similar, much less the same.
[13:56] <i5noc> i'm only pointing out the obvious.
[13:56] <i5noc> SianaGearz, thanks.
[13:56] <i5noc> that's all i meant :)
[13:57] <_Groo_> SianaGearz: k tks
[13:57] <sipior> i5noc: that may be true. it doesn't justify the rant.
[13:57] <i5noc> gimp btw is a decent tool even for someone like me :>
[13:57] <i5noc> sipior, yes it most certainly does.
[13:57] <sipior> i5noc: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic,
[13:57] <gogeta> sipior: i just let em rant
[13:57] <i5noc> sipior, are you familar with http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ? (How To Ask Questions The Smart Way)
[13:57] <i5noc> because there should be one for answers
[13:58] <i5noc> it would go like this:
[13:58] <sipior> i5noc: yes. why are you wasting my time?
[13:58] <weaver> thanks alot guyz
[13:58] <i5noc> 'read the question. answer what's asked. if offering extra information designate as such as it can be confusing to new users'
[13:58] <i5noc> sipior, its not a waste of my time... you dont have to read it... but you should certainly understand that when someone asks "what is 2+2" the answer should have nothing to do with the price of tea in china
[13:59] <i5noc> answering questions that are not given or being unclear takes up far more space than this, and obviously ive not ranted like this for a good while
[13:59] <i5noc> so sir!
[13:59] <sipior> i5noc: fascinating. go away.
[13:59] <i5noc> hahahahahaha
[13:59] <SianaGearz> weaver: you might be lucky, if you own an older photoshop version, running it in wine. you can check reports of program compatibility on winehq
[13:59] <LjL> i5noc, sipior: why don't you take this to PM?
[13:59] <SianaGearz> oh too laet
[13:59] <i5noc> LjL, cause i wont accept one :)
[13:59] <workingonwise__> I know Gnomes help is as bad as KDE's, but I know gnome and its apps. So am I just better off sticking with what I know? I mean, is the perceved benefit of current KDE over gnome there?
[14:00] <gogeta> SianaGearz: he was ranting abought gimp i think
[14:00] <i5noc> gogeta, no
[14:00] <gogeta> ilost track
[14:00] <sipior> LjL: pity you didn't care earlier.
[14:00] <i5noc> was wranting about the inability of someone to answer a question that's actually asked.
[14:00] <workingonwise__> I know we all hate these gnome vs kde things. Im not trying to do that. Just trying to quickly acess where my time is best spent
[14:00] <OerHeks> i5noc yeah you r righ ... not
[14:00] <LjL> sipior: i wasn't here earlier.
[14:00] <SianaGearz> gogeta: he asked a question "is there photoshop for linux". got a no, heard an argument, said thanks and went.
[14:00] <gogeta> workingonwise__: never mind ranter hear
[14:01] <LjL> !offtopic
[14:01] <workingonwise__> gogeta, lol. I'm not :)
[14:01] <i5noc> !guidelines
[14:01] <i5noc> i'm fairly certain channel management is done in this chan and #ubuntu-ops
[14:01] <LjL> this is not channel management, this is an argument between you two
[14:02] <LjL> take it wherever you prefer, but drop it here
[14:02] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy. Accelerated graphics/video is leading to segfaults on my system. Maverick, ATI 5800, fglrx (fglrxinfo segfaults, too). Anyone got some advice on where to look for a solution?
[14:02] <i5noc> *shrugs*
[14:02] <Galindar> usually i enjoy listening and learning.. but not much learning i see today.. just rudeness.
[14:02] <i5noc> i got my say in i'm not taking anything anywhere
[14:02] <dany_> hi
[14:02] <i5noc> sup
[14:02] <SianaGearz> i5noc: why specifically do you think gnome is trash? i mean compared to kde or compared to  some other desktop you use?
[14:02] <dany_> can you tell me if is there a command to see the libraries installed on ubuntu?
[14:03] <_Groo_> workingonwise__: what problems are you having with kde?
[14:03] <gogeta> workingonwise__: anways i lost track of wht you asked
[14:03] <dany_> or a specific one
[14:03] <Snobfrog> hello, can anyone help me about mounting images with acetoneIso cus i have a prob.
[14:03] <[4-tea-2]> dany: check the package manager of your choice for a package called libWHATEVERYOURELOOKINGFOR.
[14:03] <bob_62> hod can i get root priv .
[14:04] <IdleOne> !sudo | bob_62
[14:04] <bob_62> thank you
[14:04] <[4-tea-2]> Accelerated graphics/video is leading to segfaults on my system. Maverick, ATI 5800, fglrx (fglrxinfo segfaults, too), -> x86_64 <-. Anyone got some advice on where to look for a solution?
[14:05] <gogeta> bob_62: yea you dont just go root these days you sudo said command or gksudo for a gui app
[14:05] <ballpark> day_: or try 'ls /lib | grep lib_name'
[14:05] <Snobfrog> can anyone help me about mounting images with acetoneIso cus i have a problem which says it is NOT possible to mount multi-sector images.
[14:05] <Snobfrog> For more information, please visit official website: http://www.acetoneteam.org
[14:05] <gogeta> bob_62: ubuntu in most cases will propt on its own
[14:06] <workingonwise__> _Groo_, gogeta - fresh kubuntu 10.04 install, setting up imap gmail, no old mail coming down. in the irc client, cant get a display of all available channels. Wen to help for both, and it simply isnt there. I got xchat just to be here, because I know it. I know Gnomes help is as bad, but I know gnome and its apps. So is there a gain to current KDE that will make it worth learnng everything in gnome over again in kde?
[14:06] <CarlFK> dany_: look at ldconfig - configure dynamic linker run-time bindings - it will print stuff to the screen as it is working, just make sure you dont use it to break your box
[14:06] <_Groo_> workingonwise__: first, upgrade to 10.10
[14:06] <bob_62> i need to access root in graphic mode
[14:06] <_Groo_> workingonwise__: kde 4.5 is much better :)
[14:06] <_Groo_> workingonwise__: second, update to 4.5.3
[14:06] <workingonwise__> I hate to come here till I have rtfm. but the fm is fg (f#@$ gone)  ;)
[14:07] <gogeta> workingonwise__: got some bugs bothering you dunno if kdes version of said apps will do better
[14:07] <IdleOne> bob_62: what are you trying to do exactly?
[14:07] <Snobfrog> anyone familiar with iso files? :/
[14:07] <_Groo_> workingonwise__: third, what graphic card are you using, which driver, and do you have compositing on?
[14:07] <bastidrazor> bob_62: gksudo applicatino .. will give your gui app root permissions
[14:07] <bob_62> i'm just trying to drag & drop a file in root dir but it keeps telling me i dont have per.
[14:07] <SianaGearz> workingonwise__: listing of all available irc channels is forbidden on large networks, can get you kicked.
[14:08] <[4-tea-2]> Snobfrog: rephrase your question.
[14:08] <Burnikki> is it possible to make so that specific programs will open in a specific workspace?
[14:08] <dany_> CarlFK: thanks
[14:08] <jrib> !devilspie | Burnikki
[14:08] <gogeta> _Groo_: kde better lol and there super epic qt4 update that broke all comptably
[14:08] <workingonwise__> _Groo_, I have  intel 915 i think. compositing is on ans smooth
[14:09] <_Groo_> gogeta: what are you talking about? qt 4.x is binary compatible all the way
[14:09] <gogeta> workingonwise__: a 915 jeez my netbook has more power
[14:09] <_Groo_> workingonwise__: ok, upgrade your system.. 4.4 is not supported anymore anyway
[14:09] <CarlFK> dany_: look at ldd is looking safer, but not sure it will list everything
[14:09] <red2kic> Burnikki: There also is gdevilspie if you're having hard time setting it up (GUI).
[14:09] <gogeta> _Groo_: go run a qt3 and see how wonderfull it whont work
[14:09] <_Groo_> workingonwise__: 4.5 had a lot of good changes including the PIM suite
[14:09] <Galindar> bob_62: idk if this will work, but can you right click on the folder, change permissions for your user account on that folder? then switch back when done.
[14:09] <dany_> CarlFK: ok :))
[14:09] <_Groo_> gogeta: qt3 is not suported anymore, qt4.x is out for ages
[14:09] <dany_> thx again
[14:09] <_Groo_> gogeta: go run gtk 1.x and tell me how well it works
[14:10] <SianaGearz> i love kde but i think it's the matter of being horribly used to it. i don't recommend it to anyone.
[14:10] <gogeta> workingonwise__: but nv me heh
[14:10] <bob_62> i'm trying to compile & i need to put the tar.gz file into a root directory file. but it wont let me drag it there
[14:10] <Snobfrog> [4-tea-2]: when i try to mount an iso file in acetone , i gives an error like it is NOT possible to mount multi-sector images.For more information, please visit official website: http://www.acetoneteam.org
[14:10] <workingonwise__> gogeta, lol. this is an old ibm thinkpad tablet. on win7 it SUCKS, on linux, well, it flies!
[14:10] <taniia> olaaaa
[14:10] <IdleOne> bob_62: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[14:10] <Snobfrog> [4-tea-2]:  also usually im able to mount iso files
[14:10] <_Groo_> SianaGearz: kde can be recomended, and it works very well, most of the perks i see its because ppl think its gnome or windows :D
[14:11] <[4-tea-2]> Snobfrog: excellent question, I have no answer, though.
[14:11] <Snobfrog> have idea about multi sector images? : )
[14:11] <bob_62> thank you i shall give it a read.
[14:11] <SianaGearz> Snobfrog: have you tried an alternative, as in mount it as iso loopfs by hand?
[14:11] <workingonwise__> _Groo_, i actually ran 10.04 because of the lts. My reasoning is that in the next 3 years things may evolve past my machines abilities. but u say 4.5.x is significant huh?
[14:11] <gogeta> _Groo_: well if unity desktop is nearly as ulgy as the netbok version ill side with you heh
[14:12] <Snobfrog> nope
[14:12] <_Groo_> workingonwise__: lts is for kernel and such, if you run kubuntu its better if you keep the latest build
[14:12] <_Groo_> workingonwise__: lts is more for servers
[14:12] <Snobfrog> lets give it a shot, one min
[14:12] <workingonwise__> the netbook interface as of 10.04 did not play well with my pen as all
[14:12] <_Groo_> workingonwise__: for users its always good to have latest build
[14:12] <SianaGearz> Snobfrog: if you can mount it per hand,  talk to acetone developers.
[14:12] <droope> Hi! My apt-get broke :( look! http://pastebin.ca/1993393 http://pastebin.ca/1993397 . Attempting to install anything will give me a non authed warning followed by a 404 :( :( i need to install stuff, this is so weird! everything worked yesteday. I am using Ubuntu 8.10
[14:12] <droope> - the Intrepid Ibex -- Is it possible it has been dropped from the repositories? Files are indeed giving me a 404
[14:13] <_Groo_> gogeta: in kde you have both netbook and desktop for free, just change the behaviour in the settings
[14:13] <allu2> i got old fujitsu laptop 733mhz and 243mb ram, would it make big change using xfce4 instead of gnome?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> !ibex
[14:13] <_Groo_> gogeta: also compositing in kde is not half baked like gnome + compiz (which i like very much)
[14:13] <gogeta> droope: i had my apt do that when the repos crashed i just igorned that
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> droope:  its past end of life. If youy want to conintue using it - you will need to alter your soruces.list  like the !eol/ factoid says
[14:13] <_Groo_> allu2: just run xubuntu live and see for yoursef before commiting
[14:14]  * allu2 has always have problems with anything qt related except skype :P
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Kubuntu 10.10 works very well for me.
[14:14] <droope> !eol
[14:14] <Ycarene> What kind of effort has gone into marketing Ubuntu to the masses?
[14:15] <jrib> !ot | Ycarene
[14:15] <droope> Dr_Willis: Thanks! where can I find some sort of manual to make my apt work?
[14:15] <droope> I can edit the sources file, no problem
[14:15] <[4-tea-2]> No help with my ATI/fglrx problem? Anyone with an ATI 5xxx card and a 64-bit system present who doesn't have any problems using the fglrx driver?
[14:15] <workingonwise__> tell me this. the native package manager in 10.04 sucks imho, compared to synaptic.  is the one in 4.5.x better?
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> droope:  I suggest upgradeing... or you change the sources.list to point to the archive/old release servers
[14:15] <workingonwise__> !upgrade
[14:15] <jrib> workingonwise__: 4.5.x? huh?
[14:16] <Ste4lth> hey gues
[14:16] <SianaGearz> Dr_Willis: he's already on archive.
[14:16] <Ste4lth> guys*
[14:16] <workingonwise__> jrib kde 4.5.x
[14:16] <SianaGearz> Dr_Willis: but for some reason he can't talk to the server.
[14:16] <jrib> workingonwise__: you can use synaptic if you like synaptic
[14:16] <droope> SianaGearz: Me?
[14:16] <Ste4lth> can someome tell me why when i install 10.10, it starts the boot loader, then goes to the loading screen, a minute later, it starts to "burn" or turn white, how to fix?
[14:17] <jrib> SianaGearz: because intrepid is EOL
[14:17] <idodeisuke> gogeta: wicd still isnt workin even after the restart
[14:17] <idodeisuke> ;(
[14:17] <idodeisuke> ;(
[14:18] <jrib> droope: Dr_Willis is right, you need to upgrade.  It's not a good idea to run unsupported releases
[14:18] <gogeta> idodeisuke: relly think that woulda fixed ya
[14:18] <droope> jrib: Yeah, I know. I will, most likely. I have a deadline this week, tho ;)
[14:18] <[4-tea-2]> Oh. Apparently, "aticonfig --initial" should solve my problem. I'll know after rebooting.
[14:18] <workingonwise__> jrib I am hurt for disk space so as few apps and still do work is important. but I will run whats productive. the kde package manager seems 3 steps back from what I expected
[14:18] <gogeta> idodeisuke: shure your usin the right key heh
[14:18] <idodeisuke> yes
[14:19] <droope> greattttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Solved it
[14:19] <SianaGearz> idodeisuke: o.O wicd isn't "working"... wicd is hard to break, very hard.
[14:19] <jrib> workingonwise__: you tried #kubuntu?  I don't use kde
[14:19] <gogeta> idodeisuke: getting bad password error hua
[14:19] <_Groo_> Ste4lth: nvidia?
[14:19] <doolph> anyone here know how can I extend my hard disk?
[14:19] <Ste4lth> _Groo_: ATI Mobility
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> doolph:  clarify what you mean.
[14:19] <gogeta> idodeisuke: well you can always try going back to the network-manager and try to debug it
[14:20] <_Groo_> Ste4lth: fglrx?
[14:20] <workingonwise__> jrib yeah, #kubuntu is dead
[14:20] <gogeta> idodeisuke: same thing but in reverse
[14:20] <doolph> ok I have a vmware with only 8GB, I increased it to 50GB, but the OS still have 8GB
[14:20] <SianaGearz> Ste4lth: installer huh... my guess would be it doesn't recognize screen resolution properly. isn't there an option before you start the installer to set a resolution?
[14:20] <markrhel> is there a way to tell what command a gui uses to start?
[14:20] <idodeisuke> i'll try to install the old version
[14:20] <gogeta> idodeisuke: heck maybe purgin it and reinstalling it fixed the bug
[14:20] <Ste4lth> SianaGearz: The installer worked fine. The actual startup didn't
[14:20] <doolph> I am using ubuntu 10.04 server
[14:20] <gogeta> fixes
[14:20] <SianaGearz> Ste4lth: perhaps the maximum resolution stated in your bios tables is larger than the one your screen supports.
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> doolph:  i would say check the vmware docs.  You Might need to run gparted in vmware and enlarge the virtual partition. or there may be some vmware specific commands that can do it.
[14:21] <SianaGearz> Ste4lth: oh? ok that's VERY weird.
[14:21] <Ste4lth> SianaGearz: why do previous releases work fine then?
[14:21] <SianaGearz> Ste4lth: sorry, i don't know enough about subject matter. i had a wrong assumption there.
[14:21] <Ste4lth> SianaGearz: It's alright, thanks.
[14:21] <SianaGearz> Ste4lth: and as for ati users, i don't even have an idea what changed really, cause i avoid ati for a number of reasons.
[14:22] <Ste4lth> SianaGearz: Came with my laptop, too lazy to replace.
[14:22] <Moobcheese> ATI + linux = DERP
[14:23] <SianaGearz> yeah i know how it is :) can't really replace on a laptop either, except for a few rare cases which use nvidia's proprietary laptop graphic card slot, MXM or so.
[14:23] <SianaGearz> (which means it will have either nvidia or intel when nvidia is not installed. both fine for linux use)
[14:23] <dox_drum> Good Morning/Afternoon guys! Suddenly the volume icon disappears from the icon tray, How could I re-insert it?
[14:24] <devurandom> Hello! I am on Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick and have a problem with gnuplot's pdf terminal. "set terminal pdf" will make gnuplot output nothing (zero bytes). terminal png however works.
[14:24] <rasztasd> hi, on the ubuntu.com download ubutnu site, why is the 32 bit ubuntu is the recomended? is this mean that 64 bit is not that stable?
[14:24] <Ste4lth> SianaGearz: right lol
[14:24] <devurandom> Does anyone have an idea what might be wrong or necessary to fix this?
[14:25] <devurandom> rasztasd: You can install 32bit s/w on 64bit systems, but not the other way round.
[14:25] <devurandom> rasztasd: So assuming stupid users, recommending 32bit is the better choice.
[14:25] <rasztasd> devurandom i see, thank you
[14:26] <devurandom> rasztasd: Also: Unless you have >4G RAM, 64bit offers no large benefit.
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> 32bit 'reccomended' artical at -->  http://ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Marcel-Gagne-Orbiting-Planet-buntu/Stop-Apologizing-For-Linux
[14:26] <rasztasd> devurandom fortunately i have 6 g ram
[14:26] <rasztasd> devurandom so it can help
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> I always use 64bit on hardware that supports it. :)
[14:27] <royztx> I use 32 bit
[14:27] <rasztasd> i friend of mine has issues with the 64 bit ubuntu, but i don't know why or how
[14:27] <rasztasd> on a 64 bit box
[14:27] <royztx> i
[14:28] <royztx> hello
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall any issues with the 64bit releases in some time..
[14:28] <devurandom> rasztasd: Also for a long time s/w like Flash was not supported on 64bit systems. This changed only very recently.
[14:28] <progre55> hi guys. any reliable dns ip-addresses, please?
[14:28] <lock> ???
[14:28] <progre55> our company dns server is down..
[14:29] <royztx> hi  gun
[14:29] <lock> just google dns server
[14:29] <progre55> lock: I cant.. the dns server is down :D
[14:29] <lock> :)
[14:29] <progre55> cant even open google
[14:29] <royztx> i  come from china
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> google dns server = 8.8.8.8
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> and 8.8.4.4 *i think*
[14:29] <royztx> where are you from
[14:29] <progre55> Dr_Willis: thanks
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> I wonder how the dns server is down.. and you still connected to freenode. :)
[14:30] <progre55> Dr_Willis: so wich one? or both?
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  yes.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  you only need 1. 2'd is backup.
[14:30] <progre55> Dr_Willis: I was connected before it went down )
[14:30] <rasztasd> devurandom thx for your tip
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> theres the opendns servers you could use also
[14:30] <progre55> well, it's only for a while
[14:31] <progre55> Dr_Willis: on and btw, how do you write them into hosts? dont remember the syntax..
[14:32] <SianaGearz> you can have google dns installed permanently. its purpose is to let everyone access google services faster by wasting less time on dns requests about google services.
[14:32] <progre55> SianaGearz: well, not a huge fan of google =)
[14:33] <llutz> SianaGearz: "its purpose is to collect userdata and earn money"
[14:33] <royztx> up
[14:33] <progre55> so, can anyone please tell me how to add those custom dns addresses?
[14:33] <workingonwise__> so while I am letting the 10.10 upgrade go, what r come good howtos on improfing battery life in an older lappy running kde? Or where is a better place to ask such a question
[14:33] <SianaGearz> progre55: possibility one, edit /etc/resolv.conf
[14:33] <progre55> SianaGearz: oh, thanks
[14:33] <SianaGearz> line syntax is "nameserver  ip-address"
[14:34] <BluesKaj> chromium fonts are hard coded and won't integrate with window settings
[14:34] <SianaGearz> the change isn't permanent. resolvconf program, network manager, wicd etc will overwrite it at will.
[14:34] <NoobFukaire1> anyone know if there's a PPA out there with a ubuntu kernel and the new uber UI patch applied?
[14:34] <_ramo> if i've installed informix client sdk on ubuntu, how do i load the driver? or how do i load drivers on ubuntu generally?
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  its in /etc/resolv.conf not /etc/host.conf
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> progre55:  i think.
[14:35] <progre55> Dr_Willis: yeah =) thanks
[14:35] <progre55> thanks people, it's working, appreciate
[14:35] <sosaited> Has anyone tried Paragon Software's NTFS for Linux express to see if it is faster than ntfs-3g?
[14:35] <workingonwise__> BluesKaj, r u serious? so font smoothing and such wont improve them in the chromium browser?
[14:35] <SianaGearz> progre55: possibility two, edit /etc/network/interfaces. the syntax is dns-nameservers ip-address1 ip-address 2 etc
[14:35] <SianaGearz> this is compatible with resolvconf program.
[14:35] <detrix> Is there a way to take an .iso and dump it on a flash drive?  an .iso that is not a startup disk.
[14:36] <SianaGearz> this is permanent.
[14:36] <SianaGearz> detrix: have you tried opening the iso with your favorite archive unpacker program? it should be able to extract it into root directory of a flash drive if you want that.
[14:37] <detrix> SianaGearz: No. I will try that.
[14:37] <sosaited> Dr_Willis: Hey man. I tried Burg Manager. Luckily I had installed Grub2 on mbr of another drive, while after that I had installed another drive, which was now sda1, so it installed on that. I can boot from that drive to get the Burg screen/loader. And it works fine. The only problem is that I wanted a theme which displayed just the OS name with the image and not the whole line.
[14:37] <progre55> SianaGearz: thank you, the first one works )
[14:38] <BluesKaj> workingonwise__, I'm not referring to webpage settings , just the bookmarkbar and tabs ...unreadable on a large monitor like I use
[14:38] <sosaited> detrix: In ubuntu 10.10, and probably older ones too, you can mount the ISo with right click, and then just copy all the files
[14:38] <jahbulon> hellow guyz
[14:38] <detrix> sosaited: ok if the archive manager does not work I will do that
[14:39] <workingonwise__> BluesKaj, oh ok. whew. I have a little 12" tablet display so that wont be a problem :)
[14:39] <sosaited> detrix: Archive manager will of course as well :)
[14:39] <detrix> sosaited: yep. seems to be working
[14:40] <new-user> Hi everyone!
[14:41] <khalil> hello
[14:41] <new-user> I just noticed there's no /proc/sys/dev/rtc in lucid. How do I go about setting the max-user-freq to 1024 then? Any help please?
[14:42] <workingonwise__> does anyone else remember doing a dist-upgrade on a dual ISDN line?
[14:43] <joe85> does anyone know if Mono 2.8 is available for Ubuntu?
[14:43] <new-user> No /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq in lucid?
[14:44] <Nor> Hi!
[14:45] <rooks> joe85, i installed new repo for it, its not in regualr ones
[14:45] <Nor> I need some help sharing my Ubuntu computer's files with my Windows Vista PC
[14:46] <rooks> joe85, pls wait so i can find it
[14:46] <joe85> thanks rooks
[14:46] <lock> Nor: it should be pretty simple with samba
[14:46] <Nor> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10, Samba installed, SSH installed and I don't know what to do next. Someone please help me?
[14:46] <new-user> OK. Instead of /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq we use /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/max_user_freq. Thanks anyway.
[14:47] <new-user> Bye
[14:47] <rooks> joe85, http://badgerports.org
[14:47] <lock> Nor: google sharing files between windows and ubuntu
[14:47] <Nor> i did, and a lot of forums came up, but none of them seem to fix my issue.
[14:47] <BluesKaj> Nor, make sure you have the wondows file sharing enabled
[14:47] <joe85> rooks, I am using Maverick and I cannot find "Software Sources"
[14:47] <BluesKaj> windows
[14:48] <Nor> It's enabled already
[14:48] <lock> Nor: have you created shares in windows?
[14:48] <rooks> joe85, hmm.. i use 10.04 so no idea :(
[14:48] <Nor> I did right click a folder and share it, Yes
[14:49] <Nor> See, the issue is that I want to get files FROM my ubuntu PC (it acts as a server from time to time)
[14:49] <Silivrenion> hey there.. my ubuntu battery meter's acting wierd... the graphical bar is showing the battery charge, however when I click on the battery icon, it always says one value... in this case, "99.5%" when the battery is really at 25%. Can anyone help?
[14:50] <joe85> rooks, are you using 2.8 Mono? or 2.6?
[14:50] <rooks> joe85, hmm.. maybe use lucid ones, maybe it will not explode, tho its your own decision...
[14:50] <sweed> hey. i'm having problems with slow scrolling in web browsers. i'm using ubuntu 10.04 with ati x1650 gpu. any ideas?
[14:51] <joe85> rooks, I don't mind using the Lucid ones. However I am wondering if it is Mono 2.8 or 2.6. I wanted to get 2.8 because I have a 4.0 application
[14:51] <rooks> joe85, one that comes with that repo is: Mono JIT compiler version 2.6.7 (Debian 2.6.7-3ubuntu1~dhx1)
[14:51] <joe85> ah okay
[14:51] <rooks> joe85, so i guess you have to compile on your own
[14:51] <jahbulon> i need some help to install a sound card .. assus xonar d2 i am using ubuntu 10.04 i can't install alsa 1.0.16 ....help please
[14:51] <mwic> hey guys i install php5-dev and php5-memcache, and apache started segFaulting, so I uninstalled them and it's still SegFaulting
[14:52] <rooks> joe85, or find some ppa with it
[14:52] <mwic> i tried fs.epoll.max_user_instances 1024 and it just said "fs.epoll.max_user_instances" is an unknown key
[14:53] <Nor> Anyone?
[14:54] <kk9822> hi
[14:54] <coz_> Nor,   if no one,, at this particular time can answer your question, and it is not specifically ubuntu related,, you can try ##linux channel as well
[14:54] <kk9822> what is new about ue
[14:55] <coz_> ue?
[14:55] <DarkStar1> Nor: What's your question?
[14:55] <kk9822> ultimate edition
[14:55] <banker247> how do you understand this command ie. break it down?  for i in `ls *.tar`; do tar xvf $i; done
[14:55] <coz_> kk9822,  oh  I have no idea  I never used it
[14:55] <kk9822> ok
[14:56] <greppy> instead of using ls, just do for i in *.tar;do tar xvf $i;done
[14:56] <DarkStar1> banker247: ls *.tar = list all files ending in ".tar"
[14:56] <sosaited> banker247: I have limited bash knowledge. But that as far as I can tell, will extract all tar files in the folder
[14:56] <kk9822> what is the terminal command to update pl
[14:56] <jahbulon> any1 ?
[14:56] <ikonia> banker247: its loop to untar all files
[14:56] <banker247> ahh its bash ?
[14:56] <ikonia> kk9822: update what ?
[14:56] <llutz> use "$i" if you have tar with spaces in names
[14:56] <Nor> My Question; I am using a Vista PC and I want to be able to connect my Ubuntu 10.10 and the Vista PC to be able to share eachother's files. I am using Samba, which isn't working. I installed SSH as well, which Isn't working either.
[14:56] <banker247> so its a script?
[14:56] <Nor> How do I do?
[14:56] <ikonia> banker247: no, it's a loop
[14:56] <kk9822> regular update
[14:56] <coz_> kk9822,  update the system?  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:56] <kk9822> yes
[14:56] <banker247> ikonia so it woud be benefical for me to learn bash?
[14:56] <ikonia> banker247: depends what you want to do
[14:57] <banker247> ikonia i know what it does i 'm just trying to understand the for i in commands
[14:57] <sosaited> Bananaburger: That starts a loop, and I think i is the iteration veriable. If bash works like C++
[14:57] <kk9822> thanks
[14:57] <banker247> ie. checks the directory for all tar files and untars them?
[14:58] <sosaited> banker247: That was meant for you. "i" is a veriable. Correct me someone if I am wrong though
[14:58] <g4tsu> http://sebsauvage.net/pombo/index.fr.html <- is somebody already test that ?
[14:58] <DarkStar1> Nor:  how do you know SSH isn't working? I assume you have a SSH server installed on both machines?
[14:58] <ikonia> g4tsu: this isn't a test channel, please don't ask for that here
[14:58] <doolph> anyone know if this command would damage my system? #e2fsck -f /dev/ubuntu/root
[14:59] <relipse> everytime a distribution upgrade runs, it asks me if i want to install OpenRA Packages, how do i get rid of this
[14:59] <doolph> there's a warning because they lvm is mounted
[14:59] <ikonia> doolph: that's not a valid device file
[14:59] <ikonia> doolph: who told you to do that and why
[14:59] <ikonia> doolph: ahh it's a volume group
[14:59] <sosaited> banker247: First it starts a loop through the directory, each iteration of the loop assigns a filename to variable "i", then you used tar command to untar those files
[14:59] <ikonia> doolph: you can't check a mounted file system
[14:59] <lock> banker247: 'i' in 'for i' is the variable for which any file name ending in .tar can be represented
[14:59] <Nor> I read somewhere that Samba installs SSH, and someone said that SSH wasn't installed on their PC and would not work. I installed SSH, so maybe it's just me who do not know how to use it
[14:59] <doolph> should I just skip that command?
[14:59] <ikonia> banker247: you may want to try the channel #bash
[14:59] <doolph> I am trying to extend an lvmç
[14:59] <ikonia> doolph: you should not do it, who told you to and why
[14:59] <banker247> gotcha
[14:59] <doolph> dunno
[15:00] <DarkStar1> Nor:  Also you don't need SSH to be able to see windows machines.. Wish I could instruct you on how to connect them but I'd have to be on my ubuntu machine to remember everything
[15:00] <ikonia> Nor: ssh is nothing to do with samba
[15:00] <ikonia> doolph: you should unmount the file system to check it
[15:00] <banker247> whats it mean in a terminal when you enter a command and it just goes down 1 line and hangs?
[15:00] <ikonia> banker247: you may want to ask these questions in "#bash" the channel
[15:00] <coz_> banker247,   what was the command?
[15:00] <jahbulon> guyz how i can install a sound card .. assus xonar d2 ?
[15:00] <lock> banker247: it means there is a running operation
[15:01] <lock> banker247: you can exit out of a currently running operation by pressing 'ctrl+c'
[15:01] <sosaited> banker247:  Or it could be that it is not hanged actually, and is waiting for you to type something
[15:01] <Nor> Well, I'm a beginner, so I wouldn't have an idea, and any help as to getting me hooked up would be greatly appreciated
[15:01] <banker247> like for example you type in tar xf file (i know this a wrong command) but the terminal will hang and i have to close it
[15:01] <banker247> ahh ok ctrl+c..
[15:01] <researcher1> Why do I get this message while moving to trash "Cannot move file to trash, do you want to delete immediately?"
[15:01] <lock> researcher1: it may be too large to place in the trash folder
[15:02] <w3pt> j #caraudio
[15:02] <coz_> researcher1,  mm  I have not had that happen...which file  was this?
[15:02] <sosaited> researcher1: I think there is a file size limit on the files that can be moved to trash, especially if you are deleting from NTFS
[15:02] <researcher1> lock No its few bites size
[15:02] <sosaited> coz_: I've had that happen to me
[15:02] <doolph> ok
[15:02] <lock> researcher1: is it from an NTFS filesystem
[15:02] <lock> ?
[15:02] <doolph> I have found how to extend a lvm
[15:02] <doolph> nice
[15:02] <coz_> sosaited,  mm interesting... I will have to deep an eye out fot this
[15:03] <coz_> keep not deep
[15:03] <coz_> darn fingers
[15:03] <researcher1> lock: its a.jpeg file
[15:03] <sosaited> coz_: I was going to empty the trash anyway, so I didn't think of it as a problem :)
[15:04] <coz_> researcher1,  was it being used rather was it opened with another application while you tried to delete it?
[15:04] <sosaited> There isn't any defragmenter tool in Linux for NTFS drives right?
[15:04] <researcher1> coz_: No
[15:05] <tieinv> "file" shift delet        be carefull it deletes it no chance to get back from trasjh
[15:05] <researcher1> How to increase the size of trash folder?
[15:05] <coz_> researcher1,  then I am puzzled.. I work with images most of the day... I have never had this happen,, or you can set nautilus to add "Delete" the the right click menu
[15:06] <aaaa_> hy there
[15:06] <researcher1> coz_: ok.thanks but Trash would be still better
[15:06] <cdubya> I'm having problems with the flash player plugin for firefox on 10.04. The plugin throws all the flash content to the right of the window and I can't access it. Is there any alternative that will work well for viewing flash?
[15:07] <lock> sosaited: there might be a util out there somewhere but not native to linux as extfs doesnt need defragging
[15:07] <DarkStar1> Nor: wish I had the time to help you but I've got classes in a sec.
[15:07] <sosaited> cdubya: Try to uninstall and install flash again
[15:07] <manhunter> hello everybody
[15:07] <Nor> Alright, thank you DarkStar1
[15:08] <lock> Nor: I'm looking for good tutorial for you now, bear with me
[15:08] <Nor> lock: Thank you :)
[15:08] <sosaited> lock: Hmm. My one NTFS drive is in serious need of a zero-fill.  But before I moved data off it, I thought Defragging it so the data access might be a bit faster. Don't want to go to XP .. it gives me the creeps now :D
[15:09] <karthick87> What's the easiest way to run J2ME (Java phone apps) on Ubuntu?
[15:10] <lock> sosaited: the feeling is mutual :)
[15:10] <sosaited> karthick87: I am pretty sure if you download Java development environment from Sun, it will allow you to run J2ME
[15:10] <lock> Nor: http://www.watchingthenet.com/enable-file-sharing-in-ubuntu-using-samba.html
[15:10] <lock> Nor: even has video for you :)
[15:10] <Nor> lock: I'll check it out, thanks mate! :)
[15:11] <lock> Nor: Aye
[15:12] <karthick87> sosaited: Thank you :)
[15:12] <sosaited> lock: Seriously man. I feel reall awkward going to Windows now, despite using it for 7 or so years, and fixing all of my relatives' and friends' windows every second day :D. But after Ubuntu 9.10 came to rescue my messed up partition (which had gone to PQRP type while downsizing with Partition Magic when power failed), I haven't gone back since. And I have found more reasons to stay here unlike other people
[15:14] <DarkStar1> sosaited: :D Each system had its use. I use Windows 7 and ubuntu on my Desktop and currently chatting to you on a snow tiger laptop
[15:15] <coz_> researcher1,  did someone answer the how to increase trash size?
[15:15] <sosaited> DarkStar1: You are telling me you can't chat from a ubuntu machine ? ;)
[15:16] <DarkStar1> sosaited: :D lolz.. No.. I'm just telling you that there's no need to abandon a system. I'm just not at home at the moment
[15:16] <sosaited> DarkStar1: One thing I can see is for hardcore gamers yearning for more FPS on latest hardware and games.
[15:16] <nicola> ciao
[15:17] <sosaited> DarkStar1: I haven't been much of a fan of Microsoft lately, especially after Steve Ballmer came. And I honestly didn't find any reason to run my Windows for ages. But like I said, if I needed to play some new game, I might *have* to use it.
[15:18] <DarkStar1> sosaited: Yeah. Well that demand's always been there. Used to be a hardcore gamer meself, but now I'm a conscious gamer. (or as a friend put it, a Hippie gamer)
[15:18] <lock> sosaited: partition magic is what killed your installation, I dont really see how that had anything to do with windows, but still, ubuntu for the win! :)
[15:18] <sosaited> lock: Windows was dumb enough to not recognize the partition when all the files were in fact. :).
[15:18] <lock> sosaited: why use pmagic though?  windows comes with a partition util called disk management
[15:18] <lowebb> So when will Ubuntu be able to provide a feasible alternative to Outlook for exchange email
[15:19] <sosaited> DarkStar1: The last game I played was an online text based multiplayer space colonization related game. Before that .. ages ago... it was NFS most wanted.
[15:19] <DarkStar1> sosaited: I actually gave up trying to figure out why an old struts 2 app wont deploy on tomcat on my ubuntu machine the other that (using eclipse) after about an hour of trying. Switched to windows and deployed the same app in seconds
[15:19] <freakazoid_> how do  i defrag?
[15:20] <meteor> hi all, how do i enter the passkey on a GPS reciever when pairing with Ubuntu box?
[15:20] <lock> meteor: sounds like you have some fun toys
[15:20] <sosaited> lock: I had been using Partition Magic for years up to then. And I actually was resizing the partition to install Ubuntu once again (First tried back in 2006, back then I had a winmodem and couldn't get it to work).
[15:20] <LjL> meteor: try 0000 or 1234 or similar, it's probably hardcoded
[15:20] <DarkStar1> sosaited: after which I then copied the war back unto my ubuntu server which ran it. Sometimes I just cba to spend ages figuring out a problem when windows will do my "idiot thinking" for me :D
[15:20] <sosaited> lock: Win disk management doesn't have resizing ability as far as I know
[15:21] <nicola> ..
[15:21] <lock> sosaited: it does...but if it wasnt recognizing files on your supposedly existing partition it wouldnt matter
[15:21] <meteor> lock, i know it is 0000 but how to type it on the GPS reciever
[15:21] <eugenekorpan> hi all, my laptop doesn't detect wifi, can I somehow to force it to find wireless network (laptop with windows is fine)?
[15:21] <DarkStar1> sosaited: BTW respect on NFSMW. I still haven't found the time to complete it on my Gamecube :D
[15:22] <meteor> LjL, i know it is 0000 but how to type it on the GPS reciever
[15:22] <jisiko> It should be able to detect it automatically
[15:22] <DarkStar1> sosaited: I keep getting humped by the pigs at the ending... Brutual
[15:22] <DarkStar1> :)
[15:22] <sosaited> DarkStar1: Well that is not as much of Ubuntu's fault as the problem of most stuff written for Windows platform you know. Like I said, there are things for which you need Windows... but I personally haven't needed to for a while. Heck man I even abandoned 50 or so small scripts/programs I made to easy my life in Xp (automation and related stuff in C++)...
[15:22] <LjL> meteor: i mean in the computer. the receiver will probably "type" its own password all by itself, and it's going to be 0000 or 1234 or similar.
[15:22] <jisiko> Ubuntu ships with wifi drivers
[15:23] <meteor> LjL, in winodws i discover and the device does the job itself, but in ubuntu it fails to pair.
[15:23] <eugenekorpan> jisiko: I have used that laptop in the office and it worked but at nome not
[15:23] <sosaited> DarkStar1: Oh man the last guy was tricky. For some reason I couldn't find the way I had to go to ... LOL.
[15:23] <meteor> LjL, Cant find a way to trigger the response from the device...
[15:24] <sosaited> DarkStar1: I am a Mafia fan and had been anxiously waiting for Mafia 2 to come, but too bad my system isn't powerful enough to run it , otherwise I would have had to go to Windows.
[15:24] <DarkStar1> sosaited: Keep teh windowz skillz alive mon.. I aced the last guy no problem just trying to get away from the police so I can exit the city is a big problem
[15:25] <DarkStar1> sosaited: I'm an EvE Online and Warcrack fan :)
[15:26] <schmack_> how can i bring up the internet with nmcli from console?
[15:27] <sosaited> DarkStar1: Yeah I guess I should.. The game I used to play was "Astroempires".. and its basic theme was related to Eve.. and I even tried it for a few days.. but didn't got into it for some reason. I really liked it though.
[15:28] <sosaited> DarkStar1: Did you Warcraft?
[15:28] <mickey_> elleryss fine thx
[15:28] <DarkStar1> sosaited: 7 lvl 80 characters. 6 well geared :D
[15:29] <DarkStar1> sosaited: but I've taken a break now for the better part of a year. Now I just play EvE
[15:29] <k1gwb> I have a Dell Adamo XPS laptop with Ubuntu 10.10. The "special" keys (F1 through F12, with the Fn modifier) work fine, until the computer is suspended then resumed. Once resumed, they no longer work until after the next reboot. I tried to STFW for a solution but have so far been unsuccessful.
[15:30] <sosaited> DarkStar1: Nice. And I am sure you are upgraded on EVE?. How much is it nowadays?
[15:31] <lock> sosaited: I apologize about the windows DM partition resize option, I dont think that was available until vista
[15:32] <sosaited> lock: Yeah I thought so too. Thanks for confirming.
[15:33] <lock> here is an interesting question....in ubuntu, apparently the clipboard gets emptied everytime your screensaver comes on
[15:33] <lock> is this tru?
[15:33] <lock> that is, if your screensaver is pass protected
[15:34] <ikonia> lock: try it
[15:34] <lock> ikonia: i just noticed it
[15:34] <shane4ubuntu> ok, from software center, how do I update/refresh the repos?
[15:34] <lock> ikonia: came back and saver was on, clipboard was empty
[15:34] <ikonia> lock: that may be expected behaviour
[15:35] <lock> ikonia: i think it is security feature
[15:35] <idodeisuke> where is gogeta?
[15:36] <Krishnandu> shane4ubuntu, In GUI that can be done from System > Administration > Update Manager
[15:37] <shane4ubuntu> Krishnandu, ok, but not in Software Center?  I prefer command line, but trying to put some GUI instructions together.
[15:37] <eugenekorpan> does anybody know how to force ubuntu to find wifi?
[15:37] <Krishnandu> shane4ubuntu, Well...nothing like refreshing repo's in that way you are asking, in case you are familiar with yum, apt-get doesn't works in that way
[15:38] <amd> hello is it possible to install xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, and otherwise remove it without damaging some of the ubuntu dependencies or smth. like that?
[15:38] <lamah> who are using nmcli?
[15:39] <shane4ubuntu> Krishnandu, no I'm 100% familiar with apt-get, like apt-get update  but was hoping to be able to do that with Software Center, I noticed that repos can be edited there, was hoping to update too, one stop shopping. :)
[15:39] <Krishnandu> shane4ubuntu, Just for knowledge, In case you add any repo's from software center, the repo's get updated automatically you close it :)
[15:39] <shane4ubuntu> Krishnandu, ahh, ok, that I didn't know, that is good, thanks
[15:40] <shane4ubuntu> Krishnandu, I don't use Software Center, or Synaptic much, just apt-get. :)
[15:40] <Krishnandu> shane4ubuntu, What's updating a repo??? Repo's are updated from Update Center(but that's diff thing regard to what you are asking for) :)
[15:40] <Krishnandu> shane4ubuntu, Mee too :)
[15:40] <amd> afterwards* not otherwise :X
[15:40] <Krishnandu> amd, Yes
[15:40] <Krishnandu> amd, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[15:41] <shane4ubuntu> Krishnandu, no it is basically the same thing, if you add a repo, then you have to update (ie read the new repos, and download the list of available apps), then you can install the new application in the new repo.
[15:41] <amd> and the reverse to remove it --> sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop?
[15:41] <Krishnandu> amd, No, never :) http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[15:41] <shane4ubuntu> Krishnandu, also, when you udpate/refresh the repos, it tells you about updates, now that is what update manager does.
[15:42] <mimi_> hi
[15:42] <shane4ubuntu> Krishnandu, however apt-get on the command line does all that in one place, the command line, with apt-get. :)  apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[15:42] <Krishnandu> shane4ubuntu, Ya...right :)
[15:42] <shane4ubuntu> Krishnandu, ok, thanks for the info
[15:42] <Krishnandu> shane4ubuntu, Ya :)
[15:43] <lock> Krishnandu: I was looking at that site yesterday....does it really get rid of all traces of kubuntu?
[15:43] <Krishnandu> shane4ubuntu, That's ok :) Enjoy :)
[15:43] <Krishnandu> lock, No....but he didn't asked that :)
[15:43] <lock> Krishnandu: no i was asking that
[15:43] <lamah> who are using nmcli?
[15:44] <lock> Krishnandu: out of curiosity i installed kubuntu, and im not too fond of it
[15:44] <zroysch> hi
[15:44] <Krishnandu> lock, amd I don't recommend installing other DE's to Ubuntu if you intend to remove it. That may be harmfull. As it'll remove many other packages while removing which may needed by the system and will broke many things
[15:44] <zroysch> have any of you experienced using the dell laptops they ship with ubuntu installed?
[15:45] <Krishnandu> lock, I too installed kubuntu-desktop and removing it was my biggest mistake of my life
[15:45] <lock> Krishnandu: its a little too late for that little snippet of wisdom...so what were the repurcuissions?
[15:45] <mimi_> does anyone use kdenlive?
[15:46] <Krishnandu> lock, Many packages got uninstalled, LAMP stack broke, even dpkg broke...I need to do a reinstall again :P
[15:46] <amd> well then i guess i will install the xubuntu desktop and if i dont like it, i will just switch the user-session without removing it
[15:47] <coz_> mimi_,   I used it a while back  but really couldnt give any advice on it
[15:48] <coz_> amd,   you may like it if you like a slightly more minimalistic gnome environment
[15:48] <amd> its not that i dont have enough space, just down like it when xubuntu-apps appear in my gnome-menu but anyways, i guess i will have to live with that
[15:48] <amd> like which ?
[15:48] <amd> never heard about a minimalistic gnome environment
[15:48] <alexander> hi
[15:48] <coz_> amd,  well it still uses gtk ,, but it has a smaller footprint
[15:49] <coz_> amd,   as does   lxde
[15:49] <mikebugman1968> hello
[15:49] <alexander> i have troubles with Atheros Wi-fi cards
[15:49] <coz_> amd,   lixde is even  less resource intensive than xfce
[15:49] <alexander> i can't browse the www with my atheros wifi-card
[15:50] <alexander> but i can print documents remotely
[15:50] <alexander> and i can log in into my router Web Tool
[15:50] <coz_> alexander,  I dont use wifi but have you googled with     ubuntu atheros  (numberof yourcard)
[15:51] <mikebugman1968> u sure its the wifi card AND NOT THE BROWESER
[15:51] <alexander> but when i try to ping google for example i losed 70% of packets
[15:51] <TommyTom> anyone have the slightest idea as to tell Ubuntu to stop looking at my RAID-incapable SATA drives as a soft-RAID (can't access my partitions)
[15:51] <alexander> yes
[15:51] <alexander> only on Ubuntu 10.10
[15:51] <BluesKaj> sosaited, just saw your post about partition magic..nothing magic about it . it's one of the most dangerous windows apps ever concieived , I'm not surprised it ruined your access to the windows partition
[15:51] <alexander> i have an Wifi usb adapter and it's work
[15:51] <q99125> Anyone here able to help with using <?php within html on ubuntu 10.10?
[15:51] <coz_> alexander,  was this working on 10.04?
[15:52] <alexander> yes, it's work on Suse, Fedora, Mint and Ubuntu 10.04
[15:52] <coz_> alexander,  not surprising...I have had several issues on 10.10  and have already reverted back to 10.04 LTS
[15:54] <mwic> hey guys i'm trying to clean up my openoffice install and get strange dependency errors like this:
[15:54] <mwic>   openoffice.org-calc: Depends: openoffice.org-base-core (= 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.3) but 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.4 is installed
[15:54] <mwic>   openoffice.org-headless: Depends: openoffice.org-core (= 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.4) but 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu2.3 is installed
[15:55] <TommyTom> repeat: any idea how to disable RAID on 2 non-RAIDed SATA drives?
[15:55] <alexander> i tryed to compile ath9k module
[15:55] <alexander> i tryed to use madwifi driver
[15:55] <mwic> it can't do X b/c it needs 2.3 and 2.4 is installed. And it can't do Y b/c it needs 2.4 and 2.3 is installed?
[15:56] <lock> Krishnandu: that sucks!  I really dont like the extra crap that came with kubuntu...lesson learned, dont experiement with DE's when u find one that fits
[15:56] <pietro10> Hi. Is there a way to install Eclipse without OpenJDK? I removed OpenJDK and put in the official Java because applets I used refused to work in Firefox with IcedTea. Thanks.
[15:56] <pietro10> (I need Eclipse for school, sadly :(
[15:56] <alienf> ubuntu spanish ?
[15:56] <synth> anyone else with 10.10 having issues installing python-qt4 ?
[15:56] <mwic> any thoughts?
[15:57] <TommyTom> wmic, can't you remove the headless or calc for now until you packages or repositories are fixed?
[15:57] <LjL> !es | alienf
[15:57] <pietro10> !es | alienf
[15:58] <mwic> TommyTom, "apt-get remove openoffice.org-headless" gives me a similar list of problems
[15:58] <lock> Krishnandu: do you think this would successfully remove KDE without too many hitches? <http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnomelucid>
[15:59] <mwic> and i need *not to remove jumpbox-knowledgetree if at all possible, and JB-KT depends on headless
[15:59] <hero1900> my usb broadband does not work it appears and i configure well but cant connect any help?? my usb is Qualcomm
[15:59] <biosftw> heho, I have a problem concerning empathy: I cannot log in since a few days, there is only a small error mentioning network error, any fixes or warkarounds?
[16:00] <sosaited> hero1900: You are trying with Network Manager > Mobile Broadband?. Which Modem do you have?. And which Ubuntu?
[16:01] <hero1900> Qualcomm as i can see when i do lsusb
[16:01] <pietro10> Or is there a better IDE choice than Eclipse?
[16:01] <pietro10> meh
[16:01] <pietro10> 11:01	andlabs	I'll just use kate and git
[16:01] <hero1900> i see it and see the connection name but the broad band in disabled i try to enable but not working
[16:02] <sosaited> hero1900: Is it a CDMA/EVDO connection, or GSM ?
[16:02] <sosaited> hero1900: Try by unchecking "Mobile Broadband" by right clicking on the network applet icon, and then connect
[16:02] <hero1900> GSM
[16:03] <hero1900> it is already uncheck
[16:03] <hero1900> and when check it it will not
[16:03] <sosaited> hero1900: You mean it is disabled/Grayed out?. Did you create a new connection and filled all necessary details?
[16:03] <knownbad> hero1900: you may search id xxxx:xxxx to see if that gives you more info?
[16:03] <hero1900> not enabled and it also take maybe 3 minutes after pluging it to get identified
[16:04] <hero1900> i already make connection and all filled out
[16:04] <sosaited> hero1900: Can't you tell what modem it is by looking up its make and stuff on the modem itself?
[16:04] <hero1900> also i try to connect with my phone and it goes succesfull
[16:05] <hero1900> it is MI m300
[16:05] <hero1900> the modem is mi m300
[16:05] <hero1900> dont know which company is this hehehehe
[16:05] <hero1900> my friend gave to me
[16:07] <pfifo> why dosent ubnutu come with gimp anymore?
[16:08] <sipior> pfifo: easy enough to install after the fact
[16:08] <pfifo> openoffice needs to gtfo before gimp
[16:09] <alexander> hi?
[16:09] <sosaited> hero1900: There is no company name on the modem?
[16:09] <sipior> alexander: you don't sound convinced :-)
[16:09] <alexander> :-(
[16:09] <hero1900> there is mi which i never heard of
[16:09] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[16:09] <c2tarun> good evening
[16:10] <alexander> Why ath9k doesn't work in ubuntu 10.10 ?
[16:10] <biosftw> heho, I have a problem concerning empathy: I cannot log in since a few days, there is only a small error mentioning network error, any fixes or warkarounds?
[16:11] <Bundestrojaner> i'm running ubuntu 8.10 as live-cd to move my /home from a partition to my root-partition
[16:11] <Bundestrojaner> how can i tell mv to copy also hidden files/folders?
[16:12] <c2tarun> hey friends can anyone please tell me that from where can i learn packaging
[16:13] <knownbad> hero1900: maybe paste 1 liner from lsusb in reference to your device?
[16:13] <remoteCTRL1> anybody recently experiencing problems with icq and pidgin? keeps telling me the account has been disabled for unknown reasons...
[16:14] <Bundestrojaner> do you have the newest version?
[16:14] <Bundestrojaner> if yes, try to change ssl-settings
[16:14] <sipior> Bundestrojaner: "hidden" files are just prefixed with a "." so, "mv .* /tmp" or whatever works just fine. if you're backing up an entire home directory, you'll want to use pax, or at the very least "cp -a".
[16:14] <greppy> remoteCTRL1: I am getting "unexpected response"
[16:14] <remoteCTRL1> Bundestrojaner: if you move a directory all of its content is being moved
[16:14] <sipior> Bundestrojaner: pax is to be preferred, in most cases.
[16:14] <Bundestrojaner> ok
[16:14] <Bundestrojaner> i'll look at it
[16:15] <remoteCTRL1> Bundestrojaner: and yes its the newest version available through backports...
[16:15] <Bundestrojaner> remoteCTRL1: newest version of what?
[16:15] <hero1900> http://paste.ubuntu.com/533074/
[16:15] <remoteCTRL1> greppy: hmmkay, thanks... is this again due to icq changing their stoopid program until nothing works anymoer or are their servers down???
[16:15] <hero1900> knownbad  http://paste.ubuntu.com/533074/
[16:16] <remoteCTRL1> (05:14:16 PM) Bundestrojaner: do you have the newest version? haste mit mir geredet oder wat?
[16:17] <Bundestrojaner> remoteCTRL1: ok, das warst eh du, sry
[16:17] <sosaited> do you have wvdial installed?
[16:17] <Bundestrojaner> remoteCTRL1: versuch das mit ssl
[16:17] <sosaited> hero1900: Do you have wvdial installed?
[16:17] <remoteCTRL1> Bundestrojaner: wie meinste das? pidgin mit ssl?
[16:17] <Krishnandu> lock, No...I tried the same thing...it broke
[16:18] <hero1900> sosaited: nope should i??
[16:18] <Calinou> hi, my Alt+Tab isn't working since is disabled compiz.. help please ?
[16:18] <sosaited> Yes
[16:18] <TommyTom> remoteCTRL1, leave ICQ alone for a bit. ICQ temp blacklists you when you connect too often
[16:18] <_UsUrPeR_> I have a porblum. I am running an upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 LTS and my update has frozen during the installation and upgrade section
[16:18] <knownbad> hero1900: google "lsusb 05c6:9000".
[16:19] <_UsUrPeR_> It has stopped at "stopping bluetooth"
[16:19] <Calinou> !de | Bundestrojaner
[16:19] <_UsUrPeR_> I don't have any bluetooth utilities on this laptop
[16:19] <_UsUrPeR_> can anyone point me towards the PID so I can kill -9 it?
[16:19] <sipior> Calinou: might be useful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4402298&postcount=6
[16:19] <sosaited> hero1900: If you don't have internet access on that machine, either look for wvdial deb file in the cd, or download it on some other machine and copy it there.
[16:19] <hero1900> knownbad thx
[16:20] <TommyTom> _UsUrPeR_, use "ps -A"
[16:20] <hero1900> it is on this machine it is okey i can install from synaptic
[16:20] <Calinou> thanks sipior
[16:20] <spaderna_> muuuuuuh
[16:20] <spaderna_> spastis
[16:20] <spaderna_> was geht ab
[16:20] <spaderna_> some german?
[16:20] <FloodBot1> spaderna_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:20] <hero1900> sosaited okey already installing so what to do after that?
[16:21] <LjL> !de | spaderna_
[16:21] <hero1900> sosaited is gnome ppp okey
[16:21] <spaderna_> some german????
[16:21] <remoteCTRL1> TommyTom: erm.... i seriously dunno why but my icq account just thought it might be an AIM account! now that i changed it back i get the same one as greppy
[16:21] <spaderna_> !DE
[16:21] <spaderna_> :D
[16:21] <spaderna_> hahaha
[16:21] <spaderna_> gaaaay
[16:21] <FloodBot1> spaderna_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:21] <Prateek_Mohan> I downloaded the 64 bit Ubuntu 10.10 version. It doesnt detect my proprietary software and on running the lpsci -v command on terminal I find access denied as the capabilities of the ethernet card and wireless card.Any suggestions??
[16:21] <sosaited> First run "sudo wvdialconf" to see if it detects your mother board and creates the conf files
[16:22] <Calinou> works... thanks
[16:22] <lock> Krishnandu: well fooey...guess its time to backup and reinstall
[16:22] <Krishnandu> lock, lol :)
[16:23] <Krishnandu> lock, Best of luck :)
[16:23] <TommyTom> remoteCTRL1, problem with ICQ. I was on it just fine, and upon disable/enable, I cannot. Login service must be done. dont spam it. just retry in a few hours
[16:23] <lock> Krishnandu: lol thanks
[16:23] <aeon-ltd> Prateek_Mohan: observation, if you wanted compatibility why get 64 bit?
[16:23] <_UsUrPeR_> TommyTom: thanks. I just got frazzled by this issue and needed some prodding. I kill-9'd the program and the installer "stop" command in /etc/init.d
[16:24] <Krishnandu> lock, :)
[16:24] <remoteCTRL1> TommyTom: that was all i wanted to know, thanks dude!
[16:24]  * _UsUrPeR_ makes a mental note to uninstall bluetooth utilities in 10.04
[16:24] <arranon> Hello. how do I change resolution on unr?
u mean 32 bit version doesnt have any compatibility issues??
[16:25] <sosaited> hero1900: gnome-ppp is fine if it can detect your modem
[16:25] <aCleverMoniker> Is anyone familiar with nfs-kernel-server?
[16:25] <arranon> it's acting all screwy. No text looks like blocks, and when i mouseover the bar on the left side, the screen flickers
[16:25] <sipior> aCleverMoniker: did you have a specific question about it?
[16:25] <rocker> amd propriatary drivers are'nt working correctly in ubuntu ,what can b done
 it detect so many devices using ttyUSB0  ttyUSB1 ttyUSB2 so which one
[16:25] <hero1900> ???
[16:26] <bastidrazor> Prateek_Mohan: just run lspci with sudo and it will list them
[16:26] <aCleverMoniker> sipior: Yes, I've got /etc/exports configured to share /var/www, which has been working.  However, when I reconfigure /etc/exports and restart nfs-kernel-server it doesn't seem to be obeying my /etc/exports
 i ran lpsci with sudo....and I am having capabilities of both my ethernet and wirelescard as "Access is denied"
[16:27] <sosaited> It is usually ttyUSB0
[16:27] <aCleverMoniker> Right now I've got everything in /etc/exports commented out, but I can still see the share on another box.
[16:27] <claude2> this scheduler patch to 2.6.38 is intriguing. I assume it would probably make it into 11.04 or later?
[16:28] <claude2> for those who didn't see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
[16:28] <sipior> aCleverMoniker: have you run exportfs -a?
[16:28] <sosaited> hero1900: Can you post the contents of file "/etc/wvdial.conf?
[16:28] <hero1900> sosaited i think it is ttyUSB02  since i use dmesg as i read in a topic in the net is what i did right???
[16:28] <wolfric_> is there anyway to send an email if services are out of date?
[16:28] <aCleverMoniker> sipior: Yes, tried that as well.
[16:29] <sipior> aCleverMoniker: can you pastebin /etc/epxorts?
[16:29] <aCleverMoniker> sipior: yeah, one sec
[16:29] <bastidrazor> Prateek_Mohan: odd, it appears to correctly list the capabilities and driver being used .. here
[16:30] <hero1900> sosaited: http://paste.ubuntu.com/533082/
[16:30] <sosaited> hero1900: It could be that. Sometimes few modems are detected as usb mass storage devices, or detected as both storage device and the modem.
[16:30] <bastidrazor> Prateek_Mohan: "lspci" .. did you make a typo?
i tried just the lspci -v command.....how to make a typo and whats the connection to my problem??
[16:32] <hero1900> sosaited: mmmmm so how we can know from the cofiguration file it tool the ttySL0 which i think is my regular modem
[16:32] <hero1900> maybe i should just try to connect using ttyUSB02
[16:32] <bastidrazor> Prateek_Mohan: sudo lspci -v  .. in your previous statement you implied you used lpsci
[16:34] <sosaited> hero1900: Can you edit that to : http://paste.ubuntu.com/533084/ While replacing "apn" with your apn, and phone number, username and password as well
[16:34] <sosaited> hero1900: And then try by "sudo wvdial".
[16:34] <sosaited> hero1900: Wait wait. You have a regular modem installed as well?
[16:34] <hero1900> sosaited yup since i cant see from the gui where i can change those so i do it from the configuration file thx
[16:35] <sosaited> hero1900: Then wvdial made the file for that.
[16:35] <hero1900> aha
[16:35] <sosaited> hero1900: Just a sec
[16:35] <hero1900> thats why maybe ttyUSB02 is the new modem
[16:35] <marel> So I connected my old HP printer, in administration -> printing there's a green check sign, however when I print a test page it says the printer is not connected, what's the problem
I tried lspci -v....you reckon I should try setpci even with Access Denied in capabilities....and Ubuntu not listing my proprietary software??
[16:37] <sosaited> hero1900: Try with http://paste.ubuntu.com/533087/ this. And edit the modem to ttyUSB02 if 01 doesn't work.
[16:37] <Andyo_> Could someone help me ragarding restricted extras?
[16:37] <ubuntu> is there a deb file for thunderbird?
[16:37] <sosaited> hero1900: You can edit the file by "sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf" If you are having problem
[16:37] <hero1900> already doing it
[16:37] <slaw23> how to diable logs (ex. has joined, quit etc.), ty
[16:38] <hero1900> but sosaited where to put the apn
[16:38] <hero1900> ???
[16:38] <sosaited> hero1900" In the where I place "apn". You need the commas.
[16:38] <bastidrazor> sosaited: for gui applications you should use gksudo instead of sudo
[16:38] <sosaited> Andyo_: Ask your wuestion.
[16:39] <MyLoVeIsGoNe> Andyo_: hmm go ahead
[16:39] <hero1900> sosaited okey finish what to do next
[16:39] <bastidrazor> Prateek_Mohan: i don't know.
[16:39] <hero1900> saved and quit
[16:39] <sosaited> bastidrazor: yesh I guess. But I am still old school :). And Ubuntu isn't that restrictive about it unile opensuse, which will not open kwrite without kdesu
[16:39] <sosaited> hero1900: "sudo wvdial"
 thanks anyways.
[16:40] <Andyo_> I tried software center, not possible "not in this data", tried sudo, could not locate, tried tarball, failed to compile, and direct from website is unable to resolve host. Any other way to install? (mp3 codecs etc)
[16:40] <payn> hey
[16:40] <slaw23> Hello. How to diable logs (ex. has joined, quit etc.)? ty
[16:41] <MyLoVeIsGoNe> Andyo_:  what u wanna install
[16:41] <bastidrazor> Andyo_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras via synaptic
[16:41] <matt_keys> how do you tell lmsensors that a temperature sensors is a temperature sensor? I can see the correct results from sensors, but when I query 1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.13.16 it's putting them all into the misc category
[16:41] <Andyo_> Synaptic? Can you explain further?
[16:42] <hero1900> sosaited ops cant no such file or directory in /dev/ttyUSB01 also for 02 maybe used by another application??? cant been access even with sudo i can see them in the terminal
[16:42] <slaw23> Hello. How to disable logs on irssi(ex. has joined, quit etc.)? ty
[16:42] <bastidrazor> Andyo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[16:42] <Andyo_> thankyou V much
[16:43] <biosftw> heho, I have a problem concerning empathy: I cannot log in since a few days, there is only a small error mentioning network error, any fixes or warkarounds?
[16:43] <sosaited> hero1900: Did you tried with USB1 and USB2?
[16:43] <hero1900> sosaited oh my mistake it is ttyUSB1 and ttyUSB2
[16:44] <hero1900> sosaited wait connecting
[16:44] <sosaited> biosftw: Have you given Pidgin a try?
[16:44] <hero1900> sosaited here what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/533097/
[16:44] <sosaited> hero1900: If it shows some weird symbols and then some IP address, that means its connected.
[16:44] <idodeisuke> dúmbass whois command, I'm not in france, i'm 502.9 km away from paris
[16:45] <sukima> Does anyone know why alfresco-community is no longer in the partners repository under lucid?
[16:45] <red2kic> biosftw: Pidgin FTW.
[16:45] <idodeisuke> sukima: Ive had him for breakfast :D
[16:45] <idodeisuke> ;)
[16:46] <sosaited> hero1900: The new config I sent you, http://paste.ubuntu.com/533087/, didn't have the +Fclass command. As I said, wvdial had configured for your PCI modem
[16:46] <idodeisuke> i mean "had"
[16:46] <sevenearths> has anyone got postgresql to work with ubuntu because I can only use it under the postgres ubuntu user, not the default user
[16:46] <hero1900> actually where to put the type of plan like 3g
[16:46] <sosaited> hero1900: No need. You just need the apn, username/psw and phone number to dial
[16:47] <sosaited> hero1900: I don't know about HSDPA, but for EDGE based GSM, it is either *99# or *99***1#
[16:47] <Andyo_> bastidrazor: Is it renamed in synaptic? nothing in search results or catogories
[16:47] <dany_> hi
[16:48] <dany_> I'm installing a program that I think is C and I got errors.. I'm thinking that I'm compiling it with g++ and a possible solution could be to use gcc.. there is a configure script and a makefile. Any idea how to set the gcc compiler instead of g++?
[16:48] <sosaited> hero1900: You might want to confirm the APN and number if you are not sure from your provider or their website
[16:48] <bastidrazor> Andyo_: that is the exact package name.  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:48] <sipior> dany_: try "./configure --help"
[16:49] <hero1900> from ubuntu i get all info it is inlcuded for the provider so i just copy and paste from netwrok manager
[16:49] <dany_> sipior: Have I to change some option there?
[16:49] <Andyo_> bastidrazor: Not present, Specific version? or should I upgrade my synaptic?
[16:50] <sipior> dany_: yes, the help option should give instructions on specifying compilers and the like. look for the "CC" vairable.
[16:50] <sipior> variable, even.
[16:50] <bastidrazor> Andyo_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:50] <sosaited> Andyo_: Have you enabled the Multiverse repository?
[16:50] <dany_> sipior: it says only Some influential environment variables:
[16:50] <dany_>   CC          C compiler command
[16:50] <dany_>   CFLAGS      C compiler flags
[16:50] <Andyo_> bastidrazor: 9.10 karmic
[16:51] <sipior> dany_: there you go. "CC=/usr/bin/gcc ./configure ..."
[16:51] <Andyo_> sosaited: all repositories enabled
[16:52] <dany_> sipior: but in this way I'll modify this for all the future programs, right?
[16:52] <sosaited> Andyo_: Did you reload the source files after that?. After that try just typing "ubuntu-res"
[16:52] <bastidrazor> Andyo_: in a terminal type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:52] <dany_> I mean, every next program will be configured to be compiled with gcc
[16:53] <sipior> dany_: the configure script generates a set of Makefiles for the entire project. the assumption is that the person who wrote the code knows what they are doing when it comes to compiling it.
[16:53] <sosaited> bastidrazor: If he can't find in synaptic, he is not going to get it from apt-get either. Its most probably source files not updated problem
[16:54] <dany_> sipior: ok.. but this assumption is not totally right :)
[16:54] <sosaited> hero1900: Any luck?
[16:54] <opal> helo
[16:54] <hero1900> sosaited http://paste.ubuntu.com/533100/ this show that ttyUSB2 is the one right??
[16:54] <Andyo_> bastidrazor: already tried that, no joy
[16:54] <hero1900> but it is the same give me same errore
[16:54] <sipior> dany_: then write a better makefile.
[16:54] <dany_> sipior: it's not my program..
[16:55] <eazyigz> anybody know how to do a curl request which returns json?
[16:55] <sosaited> hero1900: Probably, but not definitely. All USB modems install more than one tty
[16:55] <Andyo_> sosaited: failed - "could not resolve hostname 'NULL'"
[16:55] <hero1900> sosaited here what i get when connect using ttyUSB2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/533104/
[16:55] <bastidrazor> Andyo_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:55] <sipior> dany_: if you feel competent enough to criticise the author, you should be competent enough to fix the problem.
[16:55] <opal> omg ....where i am now.....
[16:55] <idodeisuke> hi
[16:56] <hero1900> sosaited i use ttyUSB0 and 1 and 2 and not working
[16:56] <idodeisuke> i got  a problem with my network
[16:56] <sosaited> Andyo_: Go to Synaptic, Settings, Repositories, in the "Download from" list box, choose "Select Best server" and then do the test. And select the server the gets seletcted. Then reload
[16:56] <dany_> sipior: I'm not saying that..
[16:56] <dany_> thanks anyway :)
[16:56] <idodeisuke> the network manager stopped workign after the upgrade to ubuntu 10.10
[16:56] <idodeisuke> so i installed wicd
[16:56] <Andyo_> bastidrazor: unknown command
[16:56] <sosaited> hero1900:. Can you remove the other modem and run wvdialconf again?
[16:57] <_slaw> exit
[16:57] <idodeisuke> it did't work and the problem i encountered (wpa2 password failure) wasn't solved through a downgrade (some in the forums suggested that)
[16:57] <hero1900> the other modem in built in and it is not an old type modem
[16:57] <idodeisuke> so, what should i do?
[16:58] <sosaited> hero1900: Did you also try with ttyUSB0? You will also get could not get information from serial port, if some other program is trying to access the modem.
[16:58] <hero1900> not even USB
[16:58] <idodeisuke> and command line manual connect didn't work either
[16:58] <Andyo_> sosaited: no suitable download server was found
[16:58] <idodeisuke> plz help the net access through my g1 (usb tehtering is really slow)
[16:58] <sosaited> hero1900: Make sure that Network Manager's connection entry is deleted and it is disabled
[16:59] <hero1900> i just delete it
[16:59] <sosaited> Andyo_: Select "Main Server" or "Server for US". and then try. If both don't work, you have a problem with your internet connection
[17:00] <BluesKaj> sosaited, hero1900 , in the past wicd disabled network manager by default, I think that still applies
[17:00] <hero1900> sosaited for ttyUSB0 i got diffrent erorr look http://paste.ubuntu.com/533108/
[17:00] <Andyo_> sosaited: all net applications are working, none of the servers work. no network proxy, no firewall etc etc.
[17:00] <xukun_> join #xbmc-linux
[17:01] <Andyo_> sosaited: is there an easier way with tarball?
[17:01] <sosaited> hero1900: Which Ubuntu version are you using?. Up till 10.04, I could not use Network Manager to connect to my PCMCIA 3G CDMA modem (Which is connected to a PCI-PCMCIA adapter on my desktop). And I had to use gnome-ppp
[17:01] <idodeisuke> hello?
[17:01] <hero1900> i use 10.10
[17:02] <Dcite> idodeisuke: Is it any faster when NOT tethered?
[17:02] <karthick87> Is there any application for maintaining bank accounts..?
[17:02] <sosaited> Andyo_: You are on karmic 9.10 32bit?
[17:02] <hero1900> sosaited i have laptop hp dv6 with ubuntu 10.10
[17:03] <mixaz> hi all, I've just installed Ubuntu 10.10 but usb flash is not auto mounted... searching shows quite a lot of variants ((
[17:03] <sipior> karthick87: there's gnucash, which is accounting software, depending on what you mean by "maintaining bank accounts"
[17:03] <BluesKaj> !account
[17:04] <Andyo_> sosaited: yes, I've given up for now. I'm gonna flat install it again and try once more.
[17:04] <sosaited> hero1900: That hints that modem is indeed at USB2 but is being used by some other program. BTW remove the "Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2"  and rename Init3 to 2 and then try
[17:04] <karthick87> sipior: Just i wanna view my acc balance and transaction details
[17:05] <resno> i installed jockey-text on 10.04 but it doesnt look avaliable on older versions of ubuntu. how can i get it?
[17:05] <BluesKaj> karthick87, doesn't your bank have a website where you can login to see your accounts
[17:05] <hero1900> actually i did disconnect the usb and do dmesg command and i get that usb02 was diconnected so it is usb02
[17:06] <hero1900> ub2
[17:06] <hero1900> usb2
[17:06] <sosaited> Andyo_: http://ubuntu.pesat.net.id/archive//pool/multiverse/u/ubuntu-restricted-extras/ubuntu-restricted-extras_36_i386.deb
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> resno: find a ppa is all i can suggest
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | resno
[17:07] <karthick87> BlueKaj: Yes they have,but its annoying to login in each bank website and check balance.
[17:07] <hero1900> sosaited for IP how to make it dynamic ?
[17:07] <hero1900> also what this mean AT+CGDCONT=1
[17:07] <sosaited> hero1900: Did you tried by removing that Init2?. Didn't work?
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Andyo_, or sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:07] <hero1900> sosaited it does not
[17:08] <idodeisuke> the network manager stopped workign after the upgrade to ubuntu 10.10 so i installed wicd it did't work and the problem i encountered (wpa2 password failure) wasn't solved through a downgrade (some in the forums suggested that) so, what should i do? and command line manual connect didn't work either plz help the net access through my g1 (usb tehtering is really slow)
[17:08] <hero1900> -> Sending: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","unet"  consider it as vad init
[17:08] <hero1900> bad
[17:08] <sosaited> hero1900: That is normal AT commands for most GSM modems. I added that as your wvdialconf ran for your internal modem, otherwise it would have added the necessary init commands
[17:08] <sosaited> hero1900: Which provider are you using?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> idodeisuke: does it connect if you use WEP instead of WPA2?
[17:09] <karthick87> sipior: ???
[17:09] <AbhiJit> suddenly chromium started to give this error. also now there is no bookmarks active.
[17:09] <zacharysmith> hi so now my internet isnt working on my ubutnu. i even have the ehternet pluged in and it's not picking up the internet
[17:09] <biosftw> heho, I have a problem concerning empathy: I cannot log in since a few days, there is only a small error mentioning network error, any fixes or warkarounds?
[17:09] <hero1900> my mobile provider maxis in malaysia
[17:09] <zacharysmith> if anyone can help out that would be greatly appreciated
[17:09] <AbhiJit> Your profile could not be opened correctly.Some features may be unavailable.  Please check that the profile exists and you have permission to read and write its contents.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> zacharysmith: if you run: ifconfig   does the interface have an IP?
[17:09] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip, one sec
[17:09] <idodeisuke> ActionParsnip:  i don't know the router requires wpa2
[17:10] <sipior> karthick87: something i can help you with?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> idodeisuke: sure, but you ca change it by using the web iterface
[17:10] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip, i dont know what to look for
[17:10] <idodeisuke> really?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> idodeisuke: sure
[17:10] <zacharysmith> i see eth0 and eth1
[17:10] <karthick87> sipior: which package is good for checking bank balance..?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> zacharysmith: one will be the wired connection. you will see inet addr ,in the output with a class C address
[17:11] <sipior> karthick87: use whatever web site your bank give s you.
[17:11] <sosaited> hero1900: I would suggest you to remove the internal modem and run wvdialconf so it generates AT commands specific and supported by your modem. OR install gnome-ppp and see if it detects your modem.
[17:11] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip, can you giv me an example of what it would look like
[17:11] <idodeisuke> ActionParsnip: i'm not sure if I'm allowed to, this router is not mine and i think the owner wouldn't be pleased if i'd set the sec level down
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> zacharysmith: 192.68.0.2
[17:12] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip, wow i dont see that at all
[17:12] <hero1900> sosaited but in gnome-ppp cant specify the username and password or anything
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> idodeisuke: well you need to test, the kernel module in the newer kernel may not be able to connect to wpa2
[17:12] <magn3ts> How can I most easily build my own kernel to take advantage of this : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video
[17:12] <arranon> I cannot install netbook remix. Keep getting error (intramfs) stdin: I/O error mount:mounting /dev/loop0 on filesystem.squash failed: no such device  Can not mount /dev/loop0(/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | magn3ts
[17:12] <arranon> used unetbootin in windows 7
[17:13] <jorge> ghsgsg
[17:13] <sosaited> hero1900: Run it as sudo. "sudo gnome-ppp"
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> arranon: did you MD5 test the file you downloaded?
[17:13] <jorge> olaaa!!!
[17:13] <arranon> Actionparsnip: the iso?
[17:13] <jorge> hi
[17:13] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip i see HWaddr
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> arranon: or the img file, the file you downloaded from the web to make the bootable media
[17:14] <jorge> oie
[17:14] <idodeisuke> ActionParsnip: this fúcking wicd-client even stopped to scan wifi networks >:(
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> zacharysmith: then you can try and get dhcp with: sudo dhcp3 eth0
[17:14] <arranon> Yeah, i got e8ae1c73ee49dbabf492facac7b7da00
[17:14] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip, k one sec
[17:15] <alexander> hi?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> arranon: thats not a valid hash
[17:15] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip, dhcp3 :command not found
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> zacharysmith: sorry, dhclient3
[17:16] <sosaited> hero1900: Oh wait,. gnome-ppp will have the same problem. It will detect your internal modem. Is there no way to disable that from the BIOS setup?
[17:16] <AbhiJit> how to forece a deletion of file using rm?
[17:16] <arranon> ok, will try and re-download it. though I downloaded it from ubuntu.com
[17:16] <forer_> so, I was reading something about a kernal update recently. Any idea when it is planned to hit ubuntu?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> arranon: simply running md5 against the file does nothing if you don't COMPARE the generated hash to the expected hash
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> !hashes
[17:16] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip tho0: ERROR while getting iterface flags: no such device
[17:16] <zacharysmith> Bind socket to interface: No suh device
[17:16] <arranon> Thanks ubottu. was looking for that
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> zacharysmith: the interface is eth0, not tho0
[17:17] <arranon> :D
[17:17] <AbhiJit> cant remove this folder rm -rf ~/.config/chromium/Default it has one .css file. if i do rm custome.css it is still there
[17:17] <AbhiJit> how to forcefully remove that file. so that i can delte that folder?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> arranon: your file you downloaded is incomplete and/or has errors so is useless
[17:17] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip, sorry i just typed it wrong in this chat. it was typed correctly in the command prompt
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> AbhiJit: close the browser
[17:17] <AbhiJit> :o
[17:18] <AbhiJit> :D oh h yah yah !!! thanks ActionParsnip :)
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> zacharysmith: then try eth1
[17:18] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip, same error message
[17:18]  * AbhiJit is a great dumb.
[17:18] <zacharysmith> shouldn't i just be able to plug the ehternet cat5 into the cpu and it work?
[17:18] <arranon> gotcha action. tried downloading again. Same problem. trying again
[17:18] <puddles> plugging cat5 into the cpu sounds so star-trekish
[17:19] <forer_> heh
[17:19] <zacharysmith> i know it's not the ethernet card as it's a new cpu and it works in my windows boot
[17:19] <forer_> Plugging cat5 into the CPU sounds like plugging a USB drive directly into a harddrive
[17:20] <forer_> and makes me wonder how long it will take before that actually happens
[17:20] <zacharysmith> forer_, then what do i need to do to get this working?
[17:20] <forer_> I have no clue bud
[17:20] <puddles> zachar: what's the problem?
[17:20] <hero1900> when i clicked at detect modems it give me the name of it and configure the speed and all stuff for it but still cant connect
[17:20] <idodeisuke> ActionParsnip: do you know what  to do? the wicd-client even stoped scanning >:(
[17:21] <c2tarun_> hey can anyone tell me how to get a permanent id on IRC
[17:21] <forer_> register
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> idodeisuke: run: sudo lshw -C network    websearch for the product line of the wireless
[17:21] <zacharysmith> puddles, when i plug my ethernet cord into the computer, i can't get an internet connct
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> !register | forer
[17:21] <hero1900> sosaited i think it is the same problem as in the default network manager try and try and try without success
[17:21] <forer_> there you go c2tarun
[17:21] <sosaited> hero1900: as I said, it will still detect your internal modem . Can you do "sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x05c6 product=0x9000" and then try? make sure that the vendor and product ids are the same as you got from lsusb
[17:22] <puddles> zachar, is there link?  is the ethernet chip supported?  more details please
[17:22] <zacharysmith> puddles, in my windows boot it works fine. i am new to ubutnu
[17:22] <puddles> zach: what's the name of your ethernet interface
[17:22] <zacharysmith> puddles, eth0 and eth1
[17:22] <sosaited> hero1900: Not necessarily. I couldn't get mine connected in Network Manager in 10.04, but could with gnome-ppp/wvdial.
[17:22] <AbhiJit> ok
[17:22] <AbhiJit> bye all
[17:22] <AbhiJit> bye ActionParsnip
[17:22] <AbhiJit> gn
[17:22] <FloodBot1> AbhiJit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <puddles> zach: mii-tools eth0; mii-tools eth1; figure out which one your cable is connected to (link will be "up")
[17:22] <zacharysmith> puddles for eth1 i get a inet6 addr:
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> zacharysmith: then run: sudo lshw -C network    websearch for the product line
[17:23] <idodeisuke> ActionParsnip: 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[17:23] <zacharysmith> puddles, command 'mii-tool' command not found
[17:24] <c2tarun_> buddy i have one more problem, last time i logged in with my account but my net connection terminated due to some error, now when i m logging with that account its saying that account already in use.
[17:24] <puddles> zach: ifconfig eth0; ifconfig eth1; read output
[17:24] <idodeisuke> ?
[17:24] <idodeisuke> ?
[17:24] <idodeisuke> ?
[17:24] <hero1900> what if uninstall my modem drive? since it is closed source
[17:24] <FloodBot1> idodeisuke: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> idodeisuke: ok websearch for that, you may also wan to trun: dmesg | less    and see if there are any errors / warning about the driver loading for the device
[17:24] <hero1900> sosaited what if uninstall my modem drive? since it is closed source
[17:24] <banker248> quit
[17:24] <zacharysmith> eth0 Link encap: ethernet HWaddr 70:5a:b6:60:29:b2
[17:25] <zacharysmith> ActionParsnip, when i run that what am i looking for?
[17:25] <sosaited> hero1900: Modem drive?
[17:25] <puddles> zacha: look for whether it has an IP address and whether you see "UP"
[17:25] <elfo> hi, can anyone tell me how do I install the portuguese PT hunspell dicionary?
[17:25] <hero1900> sosaited connected finally
[17:25] <hero1900> hehehehehe
[17:25] <forer_> if it doesn't say up then it's an easy fix if I remember right :P
[17:26] <Zol> In my /usr/lib/ruby folder I have two other folders, 1.8 and gems - what does that mean? I wish to remove ruby fully and install it correctly from scratch. Apparently something's gone wrong when I've tried to install it multiple times. :(
[17:26] <zacharysmith> puddles, for eth1 i see an inet6 addr. is that what im looking for?
[17:26] <sosaited> hero1900: How?.
[17:27] <zacharysmith> puddles, i also see UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric: 1
[17:27] <hero1900> just remove it and then plugin it again
[17:27] <idodeisuke> ActionParsnip: It's a 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[17:27] <puddles> zach: you might also want to "apt-get install mii-tool", then "sudo mii-tool eth0" :-)  failing that, walk to the back of the unit, watch the blinking lights.  i *think* you have link.  the problem might be that you have two ethernet ports and you're not making the right one active.  hey, don't you have network manager or something on your desktop?
[17:27] <hero1900> also is there any way to disable a device from being identify by the kernel
[17:27] <marsfligth> uname -a give me wrong date while ntpdate and the gui system cloak are correct?
[17:27] <sosaited> hero1900: LMAO. So Network manager was still trying to access the modem port.
[17:27] <tehnef> marsfligth: uname -a doesn't return the current date
[17:28] <puddles> zach: the network-looking icon on the GNOME top menubar, right-click on that.  you should be able to turn off/on any interface if you have the privileges
[17:28] <tehnef> uname -a does have the build-date as part of the info it returns
[17:28] <zacharysmith> puddles i only have one eth port
[17:28] <hero1900> sosaited also is there any way to disable a device from being identify by the kernel i forget that i am in linux
[17:28] <hero1900> sosaited thx so much for your help
[17:28] <puddles> zacha: i would just use the network manager interface from this point on as it's pretty good
[17:29] <marsfligth> tehnef: it is givening me "Sat Oct 16 19:48:22"
[17:29] <sosaited> hero1900: Congrats. And my pleasure.
[17:29] <tehnef> marsfligth: that's when the kernel was built
[17:29] <hero1900> sosaited: really appreciated thx  i learn so much today
[17:29] <puddles> zach: right-click on the network-manager icon on the gnome top menu bar, "enable networking", and maybe "edit connections" and go from there
[17:29] <tehnef> marsfligth: if you want the date, use "date"
[17:29] <zacharysmith> puddles, System -> Preferences -> Network Connections?
[17:29] <arranon> Man, such a pain to get a decent copy of ubuntu 10.10. all have bad hash
[17:30] <puddles> zach: you're running gnome, right?
[17:30] <tehnef> arranon: you on a bad connex? i always get my stuff from mirror.rackspace.com
[17:30] <sosaited> hero1900: You first need to find the loaded module : sudo modprobe -l | grep "modem" OR sudo modprobe -l | grep "usb"
[17:30] <forer_> arranon, you using torrents http or what?
[17:30] <zacharysmith> puddles, i am in the Network Connections. i see Auto eth0
[17:30] <puddles> zach: (you can do system->preferences->network connections too)
[17:30] <arranon> Using http just hitting ubuntu.com
[17:31] <forer_> I would simply say "oh torrent it" but that doesn't really solve the problem ehh?
[17:31] <arranon> trying your link tehnef
[17:31] <zacharysmith> puddles, so im not sure how to enable that or whatever
[17:31] <Gulfstream> how do I upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 from 10.04 without losing my files?
[17:31] <marsfligth> tehnef: I imagined it but I was confuse. Thanks for clearing me this doubt
[17:31] <puddles> zach: identify where your menu bar is :-)  on that bar, looking from the right side to the left, there should be a network jack icon
[17:31] <puddles> zach: tell me if you can find it
[17:31] <hero1900> sosaited aha i understand this and read about it little how to add and remove modules so -l means to be unloaded???
[17:31] <forer_> marsfligth, there's an ubuntu 11.04?
[17:32] <forer_> I thought 10.10 was the highest
[17:32] <zacharysmith> puddles, on my menu bar where my time is, i only see a wifi like icon with an ! on it
[17:32] <sosaited> hero1900: -l is to list the device, grep shows you just the lines with the word "modem" in them.
[17:32] <zacharysmith> puddles, i think clicked on Edit Connections
[17:32] <puddles> that's fine.  right-click on that.  is there "enable networking"?
[17:32] <sosaited> hero1900: sudo modprobe -r" is to remove
[17:32] <zacharysmith> puddles, and here i am seeing the Auto eth0 and last used -> never
[17:32] <thefatloverboy> how can install this webcam to be used with skype    Bus 002 Device 002: ID 093a:2460 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Q-TEC WEBCAM 100
[17:33] <zacharysmith> puddles, Enable Networking, Enable Wireless, Enable Notifications are checked
[17:33] <marsfligth> forer_: no, a lucid one
[17:33] <forer_> kk, thanks
[17:33] <puddles> zach: what they mean by "enable networking" is "enable the wired ethernet", just worded awkwardly
[17:33] <Hellz_Bellz> I need an alternative to avahi
[17:33] <Zol> I can't use rm -R to remove files in /usr/lib/ruby/ - what do I have to do to remove those files?
[17:33] <zacharysmith> puddles, k so those are all checked
[17:33] <puddles> zach: well then, it looks like for all intents and purposes you should have networking.  maybe you should disable wireless for now because your computer wants to use wireless for default
[17:34] <Zol> I use sudo but the files are still there after I'm asked if I wish to remove them.
[17:34] <Gulfstream> how do I upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 from 10.04 without losing my files?
[17:34] <Hellz_Bellz> Zol use "sudo rm -R <files>
[17:34] <tehnef> Zol: rm -rf
[17:34] <Hellz_Bellz> oh
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Zol: if you are SURE you want to remove them and in the way then prepend the command with sudo
[17:34] <Hellz_Bellz> i need an alternative to Avahi
[17:34] <hero1900> sosaited  oh thx so much  can i ask you something it is really good when i face a problem then i can learn oh to tweek and handle things in linux but is there any source that make it little easier for me like even books that i can read
[17:34] <sosaited> Gulfstream: Why do you want to do that?. 11.04 is not even in its beta.
[17:34] <puddles> zach: the reason is because you told me you saw the wifi icon, which means the wireless interface is the default.  so if you haven't associated, you would have no route outside your computer (regardless of whether you have ethernet connected)
[17:34] <zacharysmith> puddles, the Enable Wireless is unchecked now, but no luck
[17:34] <forer_> OH, question quick guys
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Zol: then use -rf  to (f)orce it. are the files not part of a package?
[17:35] <puddles> zach: so turn off wifi and see if the RJ45 icon shows up
[17:35] <forer_> ... I was trying to install some vpn software and it kept yelling at me when I tried to install 32 bit
[17:35] <forer_> ... but succeeded on 64
[17:35] <Gulfstream> I want Ubuntu 11.04 so it actually works on my computer (I want to report bugs like there is no tomorrow)
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | forer_
[17:35] <Zol> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure - but I don't know how to become sure either. I couldn't find any installed packages in aptitude (which I mainly use)
[17:35] <Zol> tehnef: thanks!
[17:35] <forer_> I wasn't aware I was using 64bit and I wanted to know if it was in error
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> !natty | Gulfstream
[17:35] <zacharysmith> puddles, when i turned off ENable Wireless, i still see a wifi icon with a red ! on it
[17:35] <forer_> is there a way of checking that?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> forer_: uname -r
[17:35] <forer_> thanks
[17:35] <arranon> my connection must be retarded. I've downloaded 10.10 netbook remix 3 times from http://mirror.rackspace.com still no good hash
[17:36] <zacharysmith> puddles, btw wireless jus stopped working two weeks ago and i havent had time to fix it. in the mean time i just wanted to get ethernet set up
[17:36] <puddles> zach: hmm.  when you "edit connection", did you see whether eth0 is "available to all users"?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> forer_: sorry, uname -m
[17:36] <Gulfstream> Is Maverick intended for production systems? It does NOT like my computer whatsoever
[17:36] <SeMeKh> Pidgins musicktracker does not detect currently song being played by banshee (it's okay with Rhythmbox) any idea?
[17:36] <leealis> doesnt anyone know how to get burg-manger to properly work?
[17:36] <forer_> forer@ubuntu:~$ uname -m
[17:36] <forer_> x86_64
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> forer_: i686 == 32bit, x86_64 == 64bit
[17:36] <tehnef> arranon: are you sure you're comparing with the right hash?
[17:36] <zacharysmith> puddles, yes eth0 is for all users
[17:36] <sosaited> hero1900: If you want to learn to fix stuff that you will face, the best thing to do is just ask and search for that specific problem on Internet. If you want to learn about Linux/Ubuntu in general, there are plenty of online guides and ebooks even. But I can't name anything specific as I have personally never tried them.
[17:36] <forer_> oh snazzy
[17:36] <forer_> thanks
[17:36] <tehnef> are the hashes on each of the downloads the same?
[17:36] <arranon> no
[17:36] <zacharysmith> puddles, and it's set to connect automatically
[17:36] <puddles> zach: hmm.  side question, is your wifi eth1 ?
[17:37] <arranon> tehnef: checking hashes at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> leealis: http://alexsleat.co.uk/2010/06/13/howto-install-burg-in-ubuntu-lucid-10-04/
[17:37] <sosaited> hero1900: You will slowly learn the basic commands and how stuff works in linux as you use it more and more, and run into problems :).
[17:37] <zacharysmith> puddles, i am not smart with internet connections so i do not know about the wifi
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> tehnef: no they are different, but its great you checked :)
[17:37] <leealis> thank you sir!
[17:37] <zacharysmith> puddles, but eth1 does have a UP
[17:37] <hero1900> okey sosaited thx for your time
[17:37] <zacharysmith> puddles when i run ifconfig
[17:37] <sosaited> hero1900: No problem at all.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> leealis: we can show you how to install it but its not supported here
[17:37] <hero1900> :)
[17:38] <puddles> zacha: it's probable that somehow your ethernet interface name got switched around.  that is my guess.
[17:38] <sosaited> leealis: You want to try Burg?
[17:38] <puddles> zach: i can tell you how to fix in a minute.
[17:38] <leealis> yeah
[17:38] <mccoy> burg is awesome
[17:38] <zacharysmith> puddles if so i would love you forever
[17:38] <leealis> when i installed it all it did was show the normal grub
[17:38] <leealis> well its burg but the grub style
[17:38] <leealis> not effects
[17:38] <puddles> zach: cd /etc/udev/rules.d
[17:38] <puddles> zach: there is a file called 70-persistent-net.rules
[17:38] <Gulfstream> How do I get OpenOffice 3.3.0 in Ubuntu 10.04?
[17:38] <puddles> zach: that file associate MAC address to interface name
[17:39] <tehnef> arranon: dunno what to tell you man. your internets are corrupt
[17:39] <zacharysmith> puddles, yes there is
[17:39] <zacharysmith> puddles, 70-persistent-net.rules
[17:39] <puddles> zach: fix that appropriately :-)
[17:39] <zacharysmith> puddles, how do i fix
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Gulfstream: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1263-oracles-openofficeorg-330-is-released-with-installation-instructions-for-ubuntu-fedora-centos-debian-linuxmint
[17:39] <Gulfstream> oh thanks man!
[17:39] <puddles> zach: if you have no eth1, delete the entry for eth1.  check to make sure your eth0's MAC address is the same as your ethernet's mac address.   i hope your wifi is something else entirely like wlan0 or some such :-)
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Gulfstream: all i did was websearch
[17:40] <zacharysmith> puddles, how do i open the file in command prompt to edit
[17:40] <Gulfstream> okay... Thanks
[17:40] <mccoy> zachary, try sudo nano
[17:40] <zacharysmith> mccoy, k when i do that i just see an empty file
[17:41] <hero1900> hi
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> zacharysmith: if you specifythe file at command line it will open the file
[17:41] <puddles> zach: um, you could delete the 70-persistent... file and reboot :-)  hope for the best (sorry, no time to teach you vi)
[17:41] <erebel55> Does anyone know how i can get my audio working in ubuntu?
[17:41] <hero1900> sosaited have little problem hehehehe my ubuntu does not recognize that connection so cant use it what to do?
[17:42] <zacharysmith> puddles, ah i now have it open
[17:42] <forer_> what's your audio drivers?
[17:42] <forer_> and card and info like that
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> !sound | erebel55
[17:42] <petya> hi
[17:42] <sosaited> leealis: Follow this http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/burg-manager-10-released-with-option-to.html.
[17:42] <zacharysmith> puddles, for eth0 i dont see a MAC addy
[17:42] <erebel55> ubottu: thanks.
[17:42] <zacharysmith> puddles, I see ATTR{address}
[17:43] <sosaited> hero1900: are you using two connections on it?
[17:43] <petya> anybody can help me?
[17:43] <forer_> Help you what is the question
[17:44] <hero1900> sosaited i disconnet from my current connection so i can test the one using gnome ppa
[17:44] <puddles> zach: if i were you i'd delete the eth0 entry, then then edit "eth1" to read "eth0" (swap them around, in other words).
[17:44] <hero1900> sosaited or i should disable the whole network manager???
[17:44] <sosaited> hero1900: Did you try sudo wvdial?
[17:45] <petya> I try to upgrade my ubuntu 10.4 to 10.10 but update manager could not offers me
[17:45] <puddles> zach: you did verify that the mac address is the same as what "ifconfig" shows you, right?  what i meant to say is "you understand the concept, right?"
[17:45] <sosaited> hero1900: That would be a good idea, but if it is not interfering with the modem now, it won't be the problem
[17:45] <puddles> zach: because if you don't understand what we're trying to do then it's pointless
[17:45] <Amacidia> Howdy. Anyone having to work with MS SharePoint with Linux/Firefox? Is there anyway, with firefox, to open of documents through web dav just like IE does ?
[17:46] <zacharysmith> puddles, k i swaped the eth0
[17:46] <zacharysmith> puddles, should  reboot at tis point
[17:46] <puddles> zach: did you verify?
[17:46] <zacharysmith> puddles, should it work automatically?
[17:46] <hero1900> sosaited i did use wvdial and now connected and get ip and defie DNS all stuff
[17:46] <zacharysmith> puddles, or should i reboot?
[17:46] <puddles> zach: that's a big question
[17:46] <zacharysmith> puddles, lol i know. ty for your help so much
[17:46] <hero1900> sosaited so should i disconnect now and try to connect using it???
[17:46] <sosaited> hero1900: But you can't browse still? That is weird.
[17:47] <hero1900> i have to get offline to test again
[17:47] <sosaited> hero1900: GSm providers usually give two APNs. one for WAP, and one for internet/computer. Did you use the Internet one?
[17:47] <zacharysmith> puddles, i tried the internet agai and no luck
[17:48] <puddles> zach: did you reboot already?
[17:48] <zacharysmith> puddles, no i will do now
[17:49] <thefatloverboy> how can install this webcam to be used on skype  Bus 002 Device 002: ID 093a:2460 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Q-TEC WEBCAM 100
[17:49] <hero1900> sosaited it is okey working now
[17:49] <RetroGamer> evening...when an application "hangs" is it still a process?
[17:49] <puddles> side question not directly ubuntu related ... has anyone been working with hackable android tables with GPIO's?
[17:49] <puddles> tables => tablets
[17:50] <zacharysmith> puddles, rebooted, no internet connection
[17:50] <sosaited> hero1900: Glad to hear that
[17:50] <sosaited> RetroGamer: Yes
[17:50] <puddles> zach: what we were trying to do was to make sure that what the kernel calls "eth0" is really your ethernet card
my friend does not have credit in it so it will not browse he just told me so funny
[17:51] <pixhelado> Hi, i modify the bashrc file, and then when i open a terminal the bashrc file opens too
[17:51] <puddles> zach: the process of troubleshooting should be (1) gather up my interface names, (2) figure out what each one corresponds to, and (3) make sure each device is up and running
[17:51] <spartan07> Any good experience with usb wireless n adapters for ubuntu?
[17:51] <puddles> zach: can you do (1)?
[17:51] <RetroGamer> sosaited, how do i check if an application isn't stuck, and that it is still running?
[17:51] <zacharysmith> puddles, can i do (1) when running ifconfig?
[17:51] <sosaited> hero1900: :). yeah it is. BTW unless you have an unlimited data package, using Mobile 3g/gsm connection on regular rates will be expensive
[17:51] <spartan07> ASUS USB-N13 says linux support but there is alot of posts on ubuntu forums to problems with it on Ubuntu
[17:52] <puddles> zach: ifconfig -a
[17:52] <pixhelado> how can i do to stop open bashrc file when i open a terminal
[17:52] <pixhelado> ??
[17:52] <banker247> is there a keyboard shortcut to use in terminal to scroll up/down?
[17:52] <jrib> pixhelado: what did you put in your .bashrc?
[17:52] <puddles> zach: once you have all the interface names as they exist on your system at this point, you can then try to do (2)
[17:52] <sosaited> RetroGamer: If it has a window, and it turns gray for a long time, That means its stuck.
[17:52] <pixhelado> jrib, i only write 1 line to use adb commands (android sdk)
[17:52] <BluesKaj> banker247, the arrow keys
[17:52] <jrib> pixhelado: remove that, does your bashrc still open?
[17:52] <RetroGamer> sosaited, I'm trying to write a script for my server, no GUI...need to check my processes
[17:53] <banker247> BluesKaj the arrowkeys only scroll my last entries
[17:53] <hero1900> sosaited yup i dont like them also slow and expensive it is just for 2 days thats all
[17:53] <pixhelado> jrib, if i remove that the problem still here
[17:53] <zacharysmith> puddles, i see inet6 addr, up broardcast, rx packets, tx packets, colliosns and rx bytes but no "names"
[17:53] <jrib> pixhelado: did it happen before you edited the file?
[17:53] <BluesKaj> banker247, what are you trying to do exactly
[17:53] <leealis> wow thank you very much guys
[17:53] <zacharysmith> puddles, it is eth0, eth1 and lo
[17:54] <leealis> that actually made it work
[17:54] <pixhelado> jrib, no, i dont know why its happening this
[17:54] <banker247> just scroll up the screen instead of using my mousewheel
[17:54] <jrib> pixhelado: weird...
[17:54] <puddles> zach: proceed to (2) :-)  identify what eth0 is, and what eth1 is (wifi or ethernet)
[17:54] <pixhelado> jrib, its not a big problem, but i have curiosity
[17:54] <BluesKaj> banker247, are rditing text in the cli ?
[17:55] <zacharysmith> puddles, when you say "corresponds to", what am i looking to see
[17:55] <banker247> blueskaj no just when using ls command when thers alot of files i have to scroll up to read them all
[17:55] <pixhelado> jrib, its like the terminal open de bashrc file
[17:55] <puddles> zach: "dmesg"?  when you see output, press "/" to search, type in "eth0" and press enter.  you're looking through the kernel boot log
[17:55] <jrib> pixhelado: opens it where?  In what application?
[17:56] <pixhelado> jrib, in gedit, open de gedit with the bashrc file
[17:56] <sosaited> RetroGamer: Look at "ps" command. (man ps)
[17:56] <BluesKaj> banker247, use the enter key
[17:57] <pixhelado> jrib, the gedit is open before de prompt line appear
[17:57] <sosaited> thefatloverboy: Can you use it with cheese?
[17:57] <thefatloverboy> yes
[17:57] <jrib> pixhelado: well just check the relevant files in your home I guess
[17:57] <bioram> Enter text here...test
[17:57] <Ridrogo> alguem fala portugues?
[17:57] <banker247> BlueKaj just trying to replicate what scrolling mousewheel or moving slider on the right.. but i want to do it with the keyboard
[17:58] <pixhelado> jrib, im going
[17:58] <jrib> !pt | Ridrogo
[17:58] <zacharysmith> puddles, when i type in "/" it says bash /: is a directory
[17:58] <thefatloverboy> but no with  skype
[17:58] <charwhee> Hi, I'm trying to find some info regarding sound skipping in 10.10. Is there an open bug or fix for this?
[17:58] <banker247> BlueKaj or is there a command i can add to ls that will pause on screen break?
[17:58] <thefatloverboy> and that ś what i want
[17:58] <puddles> zach: did you run the "dmesg" command?
[17:58] <zacharysmith> puddles, yes i typed in mseg and a ton of output showed up
[17:58] <RetroGamer> banker247, ls  |  less
[17:58] <puddles> zach: and that's where you push the / key
[17:59] <Lunar_Lamp> puddles: dmesg doesn't output to a piped reader - it just prints to STDOUT.
[17:59] <mehwork> right now i have twinview but it dont like how i only have one status bar at the bottom with all my window tabs only one my 'left' monitor. is there a way to get it to be on the right monitor, or do i have to use the 'separate x screen'?
[17:59] <BajK_> Does anybody know a plymouth theme tat supports plymouth ask-question ?
[17:59] <BajK_> because the default (k)ubuntu theme does not. It only spits out an input dialog when using ask-for-password (which - naturally - hides the input)+
[17:59] <puddles> zach: oh right.  i pipe "dmesg | less" as a matter of habit :-)  sorry
[17:59] <BluesKaj> banker247, dunno ..I think the enter key is wrong. it only lists if you not at the prompt
[17:59] <puddles> zach: dmesg | less and then search for eth0
[17:59] <puddles> lunar: whoops, muscle memory ;-)
[18:00] <pixhelado> jrib, all files are ok, i dont understand this
[18:00] <zacharysmith> puddles, k i see four entries for eth0
[18:00] <zacharysmith> puddles, i am now referencing that to my NEtwork Connections
[18:00] <zacharysmith> puddles for mac addy
[18:01] <puddles> zach: in a private window to me (/msg puddles) i want you to paste those lines to me (try it with a one-line paste first in case it doesn't work)
[18:02] <tehnef> puddles: oh man, i never knew that about less...thanks.
[18:02] <marel> djjang
[18:02] <puddles> tehnef: in less, you can also use ? to search backwards
[18:03] <tehnef> puddles: yesssss. thanks again.
[18:04] <BajK_> Is it possible that NONE of the themes support ask-question?! They all do something (draw a window or so) but if you input anything no text appears (or is it white text that is printed?!)
[18:04] <rocket16> Does changing the Application font to something else affect the speed to a little extent?
[18:04] <puddles> bajk: the default ubuntu theme supports ask-question ... i know that because my lvm is encrypted so it has to ask me for password before anything else
[18:05] <SnuskSimon> Hi I'm using Ubuntu, i rewlz!!!!1
[18:05] <jahbulon> great for you
[18:05] <puddles> bajk: now if your theme doesn't switch into graphic mode then i'm sorry ... s*** happens in text-only mode
[18:05] <BajK_> puddles: that is a different function
[18:05] <jahbulon> ihave someproblems
[18:05] <SnuskSimon> jahbulon: Yeah
[18:05] <jahbulon> some1 wanna help me
[18:05] <BajK_> puddles: there is ask-question and ask-for-password
[18:05] <puddles> bajk: ah
[18:05] <BajK_> the password one works just fine with everyt heme
[18:05] <SnuskSimon> jahbulon: What seems to be the officer problem?
[18:06] <fleurent> Hi
[18:06] <BajK_> but ask-question well in the default ubuntu theme there is no feedback (it just stops but you can invisibly type in). in some other themes the same dialog as in the password appears but entered text is not displayed
[18:06] <fleurent> I'm trying to understand why my /etc/ssh/sshrc is not fired on ssh -N (no remote command) logins
[18:06] <fleurent> Any idea ?
[18:06] <jahbulon> i don't know who to instal alsa 1/0/16
[18:06] <jahbulon> i have a xonar d2
[18:06] <MrAnthrope> How hard is it for an ubuntu newbie to change the boot screen? It's really fugly :(
[18:06] <sosaited> MrAnthrope: Boot screen, or bootloader screen?
[18:07] <MrAnthrope> The purple thing. Which is fugly.
[18:07] <BajK_> hm man either the screen does not support ask-passowrd at all, or it does not support message or.. can't there be a theme that supports everything? well it seems I have to script something myself
[18:07] <MrAnthrope> I'm guessing it's not as easy as changing the background was :)
[18:08] <Maddeth> MrAnthrope, splash screen is pretty easy to change
[18:08] <puddles> mranthrope: that's plymouth theme
[18:08] <jahbulon> noob in here who wanna help him ?
[18:08] <BajK_> MrAnthrope: well it is
[18:08] <BajK_> it is basically a script file
[18:08] <BajK_> and I can combine the working bits of each of the themes together
[18:08] <BajK_> so I'll take for example the spinfinity screen (which looks nice)
[18:08] <Maddeth> jahbulon, wassup
[18:08] <BajK_> replace the logo with the curent ubuntu
[18:08] <BajK_> and add the support for the message text
[18:08] <MrAnthrope> Oooh srsly? Splash screen. Where do I find more splash screens? Or can I just google "Ubuntu splash screens"...
[18:08] <BajK_> and try to fuzz around with the ask-question
[18:09] <BajK_> MrAnthrope: search for plymouth-theme
[18:09] <BajK_> in yur package manager
[18:09] <BajK_> there are a few
[18:09] <FloodBot4> BajK_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <BajK_> FloodBot4: halts maul
[18:09] <jahbulon> :D great .. i amenjoing my ubuntu ... buti really don'tknowhowto instalmy soud card .. assus xonar d2 ... ununtu 10.04
[18:09] <forer_> Is there a compilation of splash screens kinda like compiz emerald?
[18:09] <forer_> or a way of managing multiple at once?
[18:10] <dkr> I saw a question in Cash Cab was, "name 5 official african languages" and one of the guy's incorrect answers was "ubuntu"
[18:10] <Maddeth> MrAnthrope, gnome-look.org
[18:10] <forer_> aww
[18:10] <drcooper> can someone help on a kernel module installation
[18:10] <forer_> dr, are you talking about that new one that just came out
[18:10] <MrAnthrope> :) Thanks Maddeth.
[18:11] <Ste4lth> lol floodbot failure.
[18:12] <BajK_> hm okay modifying the spinfinity is not that possible because it is a compiled .so file
[18:12] <MrAnthrope> That seems counterproductive.
[18:12] <sosaited> Channel being flooded with Floodbot!
[18:12] <Ste4lth> indeed, counter productive
[18:13] <BajK_> that's his purpose/name :D to Flood :P
[18:13] <forer_> dawww floodbot is so cute
[18:13] <fewf> hey, is there a log file that tells me to what router the computer has connected the last months ?
[18:14] <fewf> i think there is such a log on the router itself that gives the mac addresses of the computer that logged in
[18:14] <fewf> but is there also such a log on the pc itself ?
[18:15] <BajK_> Okay so it seems that the developers/themers just forgot about the askö-question part?!"
[18:15] <erebel55> how can i search for a folder with a specific name?
[18:15] <erebel55> I'm trying to find my .purple folder
[18:15] <BajK_> There is just "prompt_active" which is reserved for the password thingie
[18:15] <BajK_> hmm maybe I can re-arrange something there
[18:15] <jrib> erebel55: it's in ~
[18:16] <aeon-ltd> erebel55: that should be in your /home
[18:16] <erebel55> hmm i'm not seeing it there...could it be hidden?
[18:16] <adam2508> okay i did "ssh-keygen -t dsa" and copied over the pub key to my server using "ssh-copy-id" so i can do passwordless logins. but when i did the same method on another workstation it asks for password but not in the first
[18:17] <adam2508> is there a different method of doing it?
[18:17] <jahbulon> before i install a new sound card i must uninstall the vrevious soft ?
[18:17] <banker247> can you use terminal to locate and download printer drivers for your specific printer? or do you have to have them available?
[18:17] <jrib> banker247: all I do is plug my printer in, turn it on,  and ubuntu sets it up for me, did you try that yet?
[18:20] <sipior> adam2508: couple things to check: 1) is your home directory readable to others on the second system? (ls -ld /home/<username>) 2) the remote system may not permit rsa authentication for some reason (check by using the "-v" switch and having a look at the output)
[18:21] <puddles> sipior: more importantly the ~ must NOT be writable by group/others
[18:21] <sipior> puddles: that's less likely. my first guess is that the home directory has no read access for g and o
[18:22] <snipe> In 10.04 lts , using nvidia control panel , my monitor is improperly recognized. It is a 20 inch lcd capable of 1680x1050. it's recognized as crt with1360x864 max
[18:22] <forer_> check drivers?
[18:22] <puddles> adam2508: when SSH mysteriously asks you for password when you know it shouldn't, it's almost always permission-related.  you're too lax when you shouldn't be.  ~ might be writable by group, ~/.ssh might be readable by too many people, ~/.ssh/authorized_keys is not private (600)
[18:23] <snipe> using the recommended nvidia driver from the repository
[18:23] <puddles> adam2508: and almost always, "ssh -v" won't tell you a thing.  i think it's by design to be obtuse ...
[18:23] <BajK_> is there a documentation of the plymouth functions like display_password_callback and such and which function reacts to which event?
[18:24] <sipior> puddles: i find it quite useful, though i admit it doesn't diagnose permissions problems itself. (it can't really)
[18:25] <BajK_> hm there is a  placeholder function that is to handle the ask-question part :) nice. I'll start on doing that. Where then can I send this in to the Kubuntu developers so they respect it in a futerh release?
[18:25] <photofroggy> yello
[18:25] <photofroggy> trying to run a server on localhost in python, but it gets Permission denied
[18:26] <photofroggy> why is this, and how do I fix?
[18:26] <puddles> photofroggy: port < 1024?
[18:26] <photofroggy> puddles: I think so
[18:27] <aeon-ltd> photofroggy: you may need sudo, please pastebin the whole terminal
[18:27] <photofroggy> ubuntu seems to have a default server going on on localhost...
[18:27] <photofroggy> wtf
[18:27] <puddles> photofroggy: only root can bind to ports < 1024
[18:27] <photofroggy> oh, no
[18:27] <photofroggy> I'm using 8080
[18:27] <photofroggy> sorry, thought you said >
[18:28] <photofroggy> there's already a web server running on localhost by the looks of things
[18:28] <photofroggy> is that why?
[18:29] <himanshu> ok
[18:30] <somedudeonfn> I'm using ubuntu, I'm not sure where to ask this: I discovered that there are a concerning amount of logical link control packets coming from (what seems to me) odd sources on wireshark...this was after I noticed several new garbled APNs in my area...can anyone shed some light on this situation?
[18:30] <photofroggy> I was using the wrong port
[18:30] <photofroggy> how do I stop the server running on port 80?
[18:30] <photofroggy> I did not know that there was already something running there...
[18:30] <Ste4lth> photofroggy /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[18:30] <photofroggy> cheers
[18:30] <Ste4lth> if it is indeed apache
[18:31] <photofroggy> I'll check
[18:31] <puddles> photofroggy: you could have simply "netstat -plunt | grep :80"
[18:31] <puddles> photofroggy: that should give you the answer of "what binds to port :80"
[18:31] <photofroggy> puddles: I'm new to this sort of stuff
[18:31] <photofroggy> on *nix anyways
[18:32] <sipior> photofroggy: you'll need to add a "sudo" to that to show process IDs
[18:32] <photofroggy> ah, it is apache
[18:32] <photofroggy> cheers
[18:33] <photofroggy> meh, I'll just use 8080 for my own stuff
[18:33] <sipior> photofroggy: easier that way
[18:33] <puddles> is it bad that i have root terminal open all the time?  no, don't answer.  i am root :-)   bwahahahaha
[18:33] <lock> anyone know how to force virtualbox to recognize connection as wireless instead of wired?  or is this even possible?
[18:33] <aeon-ltd> puddles: no its bad to be logged in as root all the time
[18:34] <AnxiousNut> how much space should i give for the swap partition?
[18:34] <sipior> puddles: as long as your console is secure, and you don't have a habit of drinking and typing :-)
[18:34] <puddles> anxious: as much as you need to do your work
[18:34] <aeon-ltd> AnxiousNut: 2x ram was the norm
[18:34] <puddles> sipior: that gets hard to do on fridays
[18:34] <Maddeth> lock, probably not as there is no real need for wireless, what do you need wireless within VB for
[18:34] <Ste4lth> puddles: why doesn't my linux install ever use swap
[18:34] <aeon-ltd> AnxiousNut: but 1.5x is okay, how much ram do you have?
[18:35] <puddles> ste4lth: you have lots of ram?  you don't actually do any "real" work? :-) :-) :-)
[18:35] <AnxiousNut> aeon-ltd, 1GB
[18:35] <IchGuckLive> Hi is ICQ down from now on Ubuntu -> Today no login 10.04 desktop
[18:35] <aeon-ltd> Ste4lth: maybe your swappiness is set to 0
[18:35] <lock> Maddeth: to put card into monitor mode from within VB
[18:35] <Maddeth> Ste4lth, does your machine run out of RAM?
[18:35] <aeon-ltd> AnxiousNut: then 1.5x is fine as long as you don't cache a lot e.g. array of fonts, hibernating large sessions etc
[18:35] <x404x> can smart support be enabled for 3ware 9500s-12 ? on my raid it says smart not available
[18:36] <seismicmike> firefox won't open any more..... I try launching it and nothing happens, so I click again and it tells me it's already running but not responding.... I look in System Monitor and "firefox" says it's at do_wait and "firefox-bin" says "poll_schedule_timeout" and they just sit there.... Couldn't find anything useful in the logs... any advice?
[18:36] <Sylvir> Uh-- hello there. I have a few questions, if anyone wants to help me out. I'm currently using Windows 7 Home Edition. I stumbled upon Ubuntu when I was looking for a new computer (Even though the one I'm currently using is less than a year old *tee-hee*), In any case, I'm concerned about compatibility issues with many of the programs I run, such as World of Warcraft, Microsoft Office... etc, etc.
[18:36] <Maddeth> lock,  wouldnt have thought so, as it cretes virtual connections for normal "wired"
[18:36] <lock> aeon-ltd: 1.5 should suffice, some people say 1.5 is recommended, some say 2
[18:36] <puddles> x404x: 3ware has its own admin client with lots of info
[18:36] <aeon-ltd> seismicmike: just kill the processes and continue if it happens again try to replicate it
[18:36] <IchGuckLive> seismicmike: try the recover mode
[18:36] <lock> Maddeth: well, the connection is actually a wireless connection, and im working with BT4 and wanted to put card into mon w/o having to actually boot into OS
[18:37] <ldlework> what is the best Ubuntu screen video-capture software?
[18:37] <x404x> which one to use for ubuntu ? i found many different ones
[18:37] <puddles> sylvir: easy answer!  NONE!
[18:37] <seismicmike> aeon-ltd: yeah I kill it and try again and I get the same behavior... even after aptitude reinstall firefox.....
[18:37] <Sylvir> So I won't have any compatibility issues?
[18:37] <puddles> sylvir: (unless you count WINE and lots of headaches)
[18:37] <seismicmike> IchGuckLive: recovery mode for FF you mean? how do I launch that?
[18:37] <puddles> silvir: NONE = not compatible whatsoever :-)
[18:37] <Ste4lth> my machine never runs out lol
[18:37] <IchGuckLive> ldlework:  record my desktop
[18:37] <IchGuckLive> seismicmike: yes
[18:37] <Maddeth> best wy to monitor anything would be through the live-CD
[18:38] <Sylvir> wait-- so I can't run any of those on Ubuntu?
[18:38] <Sylvir> How depressing...
[18:38] <lock> Maddeth: correct, but i want to run it within ubuntu
[18:38] <puddles> sylvir: nope.  sorry.  thanks for playing.
[18:38] <seismicmike> IchGuckLive: how do I launch that?
[18:38] <lock> Maddeth: if it cant be done its no biggy, just creates extra steps thats all
[18:38] <Maddeth> lock, why not install the tool you want from BT to Ubuntu
[18:39] <Maddeth> lock afaik it cant be done that way, but i am no expert
[18:39] <sipior> Sylvir: there are options for running wine (the Crossover software is considered pretty good), but generally you're vastly better off finding linux-native equivalents.
[18:39] <lock> Maddeth: i have the utils on my ubuntu distro, but they are configd differently
[18:39] <Maddeth> BT is based on Ubuntu anyway
[18:39] <seismicmike> IchGuckLive: I'll try firefox -safe-mode
[18:39] <sipior> ah, and he's gone...
[18:39] <IchGuckLive> seismicmike:  shoudt work
[18:39] <Maddeth> fair enough lock sorry I cant be more helpful
[18:39] <lock> Maddeth: its alright, thanks anyway tho
[18:40] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:40] <puddles> sipior: it's probably best that he doesn't even try, as wine requires a ton of dedication and determination
[18:40] <seismicmike> IchGuckLive: ok, it opens that way... now to see if I can get it to open normally.....
[18:40] <Guest68911> hi , i have ubuntu 9.04 on my box , and i want upgrade it to 10.10 via CD , is it possible ?
[18:40] <lock> Guest68911: it is, but i would recommend going to 10.4 LTS
[18:41] <lock> *10.04
[18:41] <Guest68911> lock, thx
[18:41] <puddles> well, 10.10 is 10.04 done right ...
[18:41] <sipior> puddles: Crossover's product is better than average (certainly better than the default wine install), and they have a compatibility list which is good for answering "should i even bother with this" sorts of questions.
[18:41] <lock> puddles: i disagree...i had several driver issues with 10.10
[18:41] <IchGuckLive> anyone can check if ICQ is runing anymore on 10.04
[18:41] <Ste4lth> puddles: not quite.
[18:41] <goltoof> IchGuckLive: what client?
[18:41] <ghlargh> Does anyone know how to edit the auto join "feature" of xchat? I would like it to join the correct network and channel on startup instead of this one...
[18:41] <lock> puddles: i reverted back to 10.04 and all is hunky dory :)
[18:42] <goltoof> !anyone
[18:42] <Ste4lth> lock: so did i.
[18:42] <goltoof> ghlargh:    irssi > xchat
[18:42] <lock> Ste4lth: too bad there is no downgrade option eh?  that was a pain
[18:42] <seismicmike> well that seemed to work. Thanks.
[18:42] <old|shoe> hey good people
[18:42] <IchGuckLive> goltoof: i use empathy
[18:42] <Maddeth> goltoof, thts not really answering the question
[18:42] <ghlargh> I didn't really ask for suggestions for another chat client, i asked how to fix this one
[18:42] <Ste4lth> lock: it was a pain but i do these things on a medium/large scale so it's just a few hours wasted.
[18:43] <old|shoe> I was trying to install a usb CDMA modem in Linux
[18:43] <old|shoe> and it failed horribly
[18:43] <puddles> ok, i do have one issue with 10.10.  when i close the laptop lid it suspends and dies :-)  no major biggie, just remember not to do it.
[18:43] <puddles> didn't use to happen with 10.04
[18:43] <old|shoe> it's a qualcom modem
[18:43] <Guest68911> i inserted ubuntu-10.10 in cd drive , and a dialog about upgrading appeared , but after i click on upgrade nothing happened :(
[18:43] <Ste4lth> puddles: you could reconfigure it?
[18:43] <amonkey> Is there an alternative to partimage or dd that can take an image of a mounted filesystem (ext3)? I am trying to setup a backup script that can take images that could be restored in the event of a drive failure.
[18:43] <lock> Ste4lth:  still sucks...couldda been doin something else..but not end of world :)
[18:43] <Maddeth> ghlargh, easily, but I cant remember off the top of my head, should be a channel list
[18:43] <Ste4lth> Guest68911: how long did you wait?
[18:43] <Ste4lth> lock: true.
[18:43] <IchGuckLive> goltoof:  i updated on WinXP to 7.2 and now ubuntu does not log in anymore
[18:44] <old|shoe> someone
[18:44] <Ste4lth> IchGuckLive: you overwrote the bootloader
[18:44] <Guest68911> Ste4lth , till now about one minute :)
[18:44] <old|shoe> when i did wvcallconf
[18:44] <IchGuckLive> Ste4lth: the ICQ client not the OS
[18:44] <old|shoe> it failed to recognize the modem
[18:44] <ghlargh> Oh, i found it, i was looking for a nice menu choice, turns out you just right click the network and channel names...
[18:44] <Ste4lth> Guest15374: why did you use the cd to upgrade?
[18:44] <faction918> Anyone know how to create a port 80 ssh tunnel? I'm trying: sudo ssh -L 80:localhost:80 'user'@'host'
[18:44] <Ste4lth> IchGuckLive: oh, sorry
[18:45] <Guest68911> i haven't good speed connection currently
[18:45] <lock> i didnt realize that icq was still in use
[18:45] <birrbert> good evening. I would like some assistance with Ubuntu 10.10. I installed NTFS Config Tool through Synaptics Package Manager but it won't start when I click on it in System > Administration
[18:45] <ghlargh> Well, that solved, sorry for bothering you, i blame the Xchat default config :D
[18:45] <lock> havent used that in a LOOOONG time
[18:45] <karthick87> GNOME Mplayer “Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so” error
[18:45] <seismicmike> thanks IchGuckLive
[18:45] <old|shoe> somebody?
[18:45] <old|shoe> help me!
[18:45] <BluesKaj> !grub2 |  IchGuckLive
[18:45] <IchGuckLive> Ste4lth:   wars fored to update the client on winXP to get the videochat working and now ubuntu Empathy does not log in on this account
[18:45] <Guest68911> Ste4lth, i haven't good speed connection currently
[18:46] <IchGuckLive> BluesKaj: NOT the OS THE Emathy fails on ICQ
[18:46] <Ste4lth> Guest68911: Are you upgrading from LTS to 10.10?
[18:46] <Guest68911> Ste4lth, yes
[18:47] <amonkey> Is there a good option for taking backups of mounted system partitions?
[18:47] <IchGuckLive> Guest68911: backup your home particion first
[18:47] <Ste4lth> Guest68911: I would just stay at LTS, 10.10 has some issues sometimes, and it's just not worth risking yet (someone will disagree here in a few mins).
[18:48] <Guest68911> Ste4lth, ok , thx :)
[18:48] <birrbert> good evening. I would like some assistance with Ubuntu 10.10. I installed NTFS Config Tool through Synaptics Package Manager but it won't start when I click on it in System > Administration. nothing happens excepts that it asks for password
[18:48] <puddles> do you guys know of a robotics channel with decent traffic (e.g., not full of sleeping people?)
[18:48] <lock> so what about 10.10 is supposed to make it so much better than 10.04?
[18:48] <phisher1> puddles: no, they have robots running the channel
[18:48] <karthick87> GNOME Mplayer “Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so” error can any one help....???
[18:49] <IchGuckLive> puddles: goto #emc
[18:49] <Ste4lth> lock: no. just no.
[18:49] <Ste4lth> lock: disregard last message, it just sucks, driver issues out the a$$.
[18:50] <prov> I used aespipe to encrypt files to iso to make an encrypted cd but cryptoloop is not found when I issue 'sudo modprobe cryptoloop'   I have installed loop-aes-utils.
[18:50] <puddles> that bad huh
[18:50] <Ste4lth> lock: the gui is apparently better.
[18:50] <prov> What do I do?
[18:50] <lock> Ste4lth: i didnt notice the difference did you?
[18:50] <Amacidia> I'm trying to remove likewise-open and remove all the configuration files. During the setup, I provided the wrong kerberos information and now when I remove/install likewise-open it does show me the kerberos wizard anymore. Any ideas?
[18:50] <Ste4lth> lock: i did, it's got a more modern feel to it
[18:50] <lock> Ste4lth: as far as GUI is concerned...def noticed difference with driver compatability
[18:50] <Lint01> how to make udisks to mount disks automatically?
[18:50] <puddles> prov: that's old-skool ... try cryptset
[18:50] <puddles> prov: cryptsetup
[18:50] <Ste4lth> lock: it wouldn't even work on my laptop
[18:51] <goltoof> karthick87:   sounds to me like it's trying to open a .so file
[18:51] <prov> puddles: I use cryptsetup all the time. But it is a pain to use for encrypted CDs.
[18:51] <lock> Ste4lth: def sounds like a dead end
[18:51] <goltoof> karthick87:  which mplayer naturally doesn't support
[18:51] <Ste4lth> lock: default installation on a laptop that .04 worked on
[18:51] <prov> puddles: Give me a moment and let me five links and I'll show you what I mean.
[18:51] <lock> Ste4lth: thats just strange
[18:51] <puddles> prov: not sure if loop-aes is supported any more tho
[18:51] <Ste4lth> lock: i thought so too.
[18:51] <lock> Ste4lth: do you know when they are supposed to be coming out with unity?
[18:52] <karthick87> goltoof: wat??
[18:52] <prov> puddles: Then how would you go about this encrypting CDs then?
[18:52] <Ste4lth> lock: release cycle is every 6 months
[18:52] <snipe> I am having a problem with nvidia gtx 260 and acer p201w lcd not allowing max resolution. something i read said it is a problem with using nvidia and ubuntu. would getting a ati card fix it?
[18:52] <Ste4lth> lock: so 6 months from october
[18:52] <lock> Ste4lth: im interested in seeing how the upcoming changes will shake things up....you think they will be ready with it w/in the next 6 months?
[18:52] <Ste4lth> lock: they release every 6 months, no matter what
[18:52] <puddles> prov: do you want the cd to have a valid isofs?
[18:52] <Ste4lth> lock: i 'hope' they fix the issues within 6 months
[18:52] <x404x> hm 3ware client is 58 mbyte "click next" and disclaimer text and 1 mb program data, i love user friendly software ;=)
[18:53] <lock> Ste4lth: right, but im talking about how they are getting rid of X and moving to Unity or Wayport or whatever its called
[18:53] <puddles> bbl, lunch
[18:53] <goltoof> karthick87:   you mentined an mplayer error pertaining to nvidia.so, i was just chiming in, unless i'm way off, nvm
[18:53] <prov> puddles: It does not matter to me as long as my stuff is encrypted.
[18:53] <lock> Ste4lth: no more gnome or kde...something completely different supposedly
[18:53] <Ste4lth> lock: i don't think they'll get rid of X, X is the standard, debian is what they base it off of and it's here to stay for a while
[18:54] <iheartubuntu> honk :) need help please! my 8GB USB chip is now acting like its read only. Do I need to go sudo to edit the drive settings to fix this? Thanks for any help.
[18:54] <Ste4lth> lock: if debian moves to unity, they will follow
[18:54] <Maddeth> need to remount it as read/write iheartubuntu
[18:54] <Maddeth> check your fstab
[18:54] <Jangle> Need some help with 10.10 and a USB727 Broadband Modem from VZW
[18:55] <iheartubuntu> i just plug it in to USB and its now read only
[18:55] <ziozizo> an mode to modificy abw in pdf format
[18:55] <Lint01> how to make udisks to mount disks automatically?
[18:56] <Maddeth> iheartubuntu, can you look ar your fstab
[18:56] <iheartubuntu> "the permissions could not be changed. sorry, could not change the permissions of "ADATA UFD": Error setting permissions: Read-only file system"
[18:56] <Ste4lth> lock: i'm gonna go research that really quick.
[18:57] <prov> puddles: comapre these to and aespipe is simpler: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=579173&highlight=aespipe     http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Burn_Encrypted_Optical_Media_With_Luks#Start
[18:57] <iheartubuntu> maddeth, how do i check fstab
[18:57] <lock> Ste4lth: there are some major changes coming up..im looking it up now too
[18:57] <prov> puddles: I meant 'two' not 'to'
[18:57] <banker247> is there an ls command argument to show hidden files in the foldeer?
[18:57] <bastidrazor> banker247:  ls -a
[18:57] <Maddeth> iheartubuntu, in terminal "less /etc/fstab"
[18:57] <Ste4lth> lock: ah, i guess they are, how interesting
[18:57] <Jangle> The USB727 isn't showing up in the connections available, it was in 10.4 if I bypass the connections and go straight through WVdial evolution email and the browser cannot see the connection but from terminal I can
[18:58] <tangent3> anyone knows if there is a PPA for kernels patched with BFS?
[18:59] <iheartubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/533170/
[18:59] <iheartubuntu> maddeth - http://paste.ubuntu.com/533170/
[18:59] <lock> Ste4lth: I read an article on slashdot that was talking about it and about how all the programs written for gnome might have to be re written for Unity
[19:00] <Ste4lth> lock: they won't use Gnome anymore
[19:00] <lock> Ste4lth: maaaaaajor overhaul
[19:00] <Pici> !unity | Ste4lth
[19:00] <Pici> !natty
[19:00] <LjL> lock, Ste4lth: that's nonsense, programs for GNOME will work fine under Unity. they already do.
[19:00] <LjL> i mean, they're not even running "under" Unity in any sense.
[19:01] <Ste4lth> i actually thought gnome was written for X
[19:01] <adnc> hello, is there an easy way installing a iso file to usb stick?
[19:01] <lock> I wonder what that article was talking about then...i could be mis remembering too though
[19:01] <Ste4lth> since X is started and gnome worked under x
[19:01] <LjL> Ste4lth: and Unity also works under X
[19:01] <tim> is it possible to broadcast what is playing on banshee to other computers in my home network so they are all playing the same song and controlled by one computer?
[19:01] <Maddeth> iheartubuntu, you could add the usb to the fstab with the rw switch
[19:01] <IchGuckLive> adnc: out of the system or the live disk
[19:01] <Lint01> how to make udisks to mount disks automatically?
[19:01] <Ste4lth> well lock mentioned moving away from X
[19:01] <Ste4lth> so they wouldn't be using X anymore
[19:01] <Jangle> Anyone know how to get a USB727 modem working properly in 10.10?
[19:02] <Maddeth> trying to think of how you can remount it
[19:02] <marel> should I creat admin.py file for my app and do all the admin interface regarded stuff there or should I just create a subclass in my models ?
[19:02] <adnc> IchGuckLive, the live disk
[19:02] <iheartubuntu> maddeth - this is not the computer problem, this is the USB drive problem. This device is read only on any computer now.
[19:02] <Pici> marel: Try #django, not #ubuntu ;)
[19:02] <lock> LjL: is that incorrect?
[19:02] <IchGuckLive> ther is at the start a item to do this
[19:02] <iheartubuntu> maybe its how i am mounting and unmounting?
[19:02] <LjL> Ste4lth: he talked about programs having to be "rewritten for Unity", which is pure nonsense. rewritten for *Wayland*, perhaps, but Wayland is an entirely separate issue. and, GTK will have to be ported to it, programs won't have to be "rewritten".
[19:02] <LjL> lock ^
[19:02] <Maddeth> iheartubuntu, oh... odd
[19:02] <IchGuckLive> ther is at the start a item to do this adnc
[19:02] <marel> Pici, ups I thought I was in #django :D
[19:03] <iheartubuntu> eject? or safely remove drive?
[19:03] <lock> well there ya go...having part of an answer means something totally different than having the whole pie :)
[19:03] <Ste4lth> LjL: alright, that makes sense
[19:03] <IchGuckLive> ANYONE RUNS icq ON UBUNTU EMPATHY WHILE HAVE ALSO WINXP CLIENT 7.2
[19:03] <adnc> IchGuckLive, schade, dass es das gibt. es handelt sich hierbei nicht um ein ubuntu
[19:03] <Maddeth> safely remove iheartubuntu
[19:03] <x404x> hm I dont get any meny bar and the 3ware dox doesnt say anything about how to enable this
[19:03] <IchGuckLive> adnc: AH SO
[19:04] <IchGuckLive> oh shit caplock
[19:04] <adnc> IchGuckLive, ;)
[19:04] <IchGuckLive> O.o
[19:04] <Maddeth> iheartubuntu, shouldnt make a difference tho
[19:04] <BluesKaj> !shout |IchGuckLive
[19:04] <Amacidia> I'm trying to setup my Ubuntu computer (10.10) to login to our windows 2k8 domain here at work. I've installed likewise-open and that seems to be working, but I'd like the computer to authenticate logins to the desktop through AD. Any ideas how?
[19:04] <ziozizo> I want to convers abw in pdf...how can...?
[19:04] <Ste4lth> BluesKaj: he indicated his mistake.
[19:04] <IchGuckLive> BluesKaj: Sorry B)
[19:04] <LjL> lock, Ste4lth: there are two somewhat linked but separate things at work here. Unity is, currently, a shell for GNOME, and it's being switched to instead of adopting GNOME Shell. GNOME applications will work just fine with it.   separate from this, a move will happen away from X.org and towards Wayland, which is an alternative display manager. this move won't likely happen in the next release. the move *will* require changes in GTK and GNOME, but likely not in
[19:04] <LjL> the apps themselves
[19:05] <Ste4lth> LjL: what language are the apps coded in
[19:05] <pieces029> Anyone know a good place to learn how to connect to wireless with the terminal?
[19:05] <luca> !list
[19:05] <Pici> !offtopic
[19:05] <LjL> Ste4lth: apps for GNOME are often written in C, but they can be written in other things, such as Python
[19:06] <Robinux> hey guys is tha manual in this page http://ubuntu-manual.org/   only for ubuntu desktop edition, i need to find a manual for the server edition
[19:06] <Pici> !serverguide | Robinux
[19:06] <BluesKaj> Ste4lth , I'm just an ubuntu-user , pls don't think I'm intelligent :)
[19:06] <Ste4lth> LjL: why would they have to be rewritten then
[19:06] <Robinux> Pici: i see, thanks, i just hope its just AS Good
[19:07] <LjL> Ste4lth: i said they would *not* have to be rewritten
[19:07] <Pici> Robinux: Theres also #ubuntu-server if you have a specific question.
[19:07] <Ste4lth> LjL: i mean, if they would need to be, why would they be
[19:07] <Robinux> nah, i just need an overall general guide/manual.... i think that link you showed me should be enough i'll finish reading it and i hope it gives me enough knowledge to handle a server :D
[19:08] <LjL> Ste4lth: how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? O.o
[19:08] <Ste4lth> lol
[19:08] <_ubuntu> anyone can help me with something?
[19:08] <Pici> Ste4lth, LjL: This is probably a topic thats better discussed in #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:08] <Ste4lth> _ubuntu_: don't ask to ask
[19:08] <iheartubuntu> maddeth - do u think a different USB slot would help?
[19:08] <tim> is it possible to broadcast what is playing on banshee to other computers in my home network so they are all playing the same song and controlled by one computer?
[19:08] <Ste4lth> pici: it's an ontopic question about an upcoming release
[19:08] <_ubuntu> i want to disable boot screen so i can see the messages
[19:09] <Pici> Ste4lth: Then it belongs in #ubuntu+1, the channel for the next release.  #ubuntu is for support, not dicussion.
[19:09] <luca> !list
[19:09] <Maddeth> iheartubuntu, maybe
[19:09] <iheartubuntu> thx
[19:09] <lock> sheesh
[19:10] <Lint01> how to make udisks to mount disks automatically?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: you can automount partitions using fstab
[19:11] <_ubuntu> any dutch people arround?
[19:11] <Pici> !nl | _ubuntu
[19:11] <Lint01> i don't want to, i have udisks and it's its damned job
[19:12] <Pici> ActionParsnip: It already is (!dutch is <alias> nl, added on 2007-01-11 14:09:45)
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Pici: cool :) that was quick!
[19:15] <misskimberley> how do i put games on ubuntu? like dragon age or mass effect 2? - do i need to go to a different channel for this question? im really new to ubuntu.
[19:15] <Lint01> misskimberley, install them in windows or wine
[19:15] <prabhu> hi friends its highly emergency is there any IEEE paper for LINUX ?
[19:15] <Ste4lth> misskimberley: wine.
[19:16] <tangent3> misskimberley: #winehq
[19:16] <Lint01> how to make udisks to mount disks automatically?
[19:16] <misskimberley> thanks i have wine but don't really know how it works
[19:16] <Gangrel> anyone knows how to setup shoutcast on ubuntu 10.10
[19:17] <mylogic> ieee paper for linux? O.o
[19:17] <prabhu> hi friends its highly emergency is there any IEEE paper for LINUX
[19:17] <Gangrel> !shoutcast
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> !bug 536670
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Gangrel: look into icecast
[19:17] <mylogic> prabhu: I don't believe there are IEEE papers for software
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: its highlighted in bug 536670 dude. I'd use fstab, its also it's job
[19:19] <Gangrel> ActionParsnip is it the same as shoutcast?
[19:19] <prabhu> mylogic@ thanks for ur reply ... k any paper with deals with security in linux
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> !icecast
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Gangrel: sure, there's an official doc for it to afaik
[19:19] <MrNibbles> hey guys, i installed cairo dock and it set compositing on by default even in 'normal' graphics mode
[19:20] <MrNibbles> where can i disable compositing now?
[19:20] <MrNibbles> i used to be able to do it in system preferences > appearance > Visual Effects
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> !info icecast2 > Gangrel
[19:21] <prabhu> mylogic@ but i heard engarde linux haves
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> MrNibbles: if you press Alt+F2 and run: metacity --replace ,it will disable compositing
[19:21] <lock> prabhu: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO/
[19:21] <MrNibbles> ActionParsnip: thanks, giving it a go
[19:22] <ravn> how can I see chat program is using the network?
[19:22] <prabhu> lock@ i need any ieee paper in linux
[19:22] <lock> prabhu: is this for school?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> ravn: do you mean of other users on your LAN?
[19:23] <Ste4lth> lock: probably
[19:23] <prabhu> lock@ya
[19:23] <Pici> prabhu: Your question doesn't really have anything to do with Ubuntu.  Have you asked in ##linux ?
[19:23] <Ste4lth> told ya
[19:23] <lock> lol
[19:23] <prabhu> pici@ k i will ask them
[19:23] <Ste4lth> go nao
[19:23] <prabhu> ##linux
[19:23] <lock> 'highly emergency'...sounds like someone procrastinated on their homework :)
[19:23] <Ste4lth> indeed
[19:24] <Pici> ravn: sudo netstat -tanp
[19:24] <wahben> Hi guys, I need help to jailbreak a server i'm working on. I changed the permissions to "/etc/sudoers" and now no-one can sudo
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> ravn: you can setup you NIC in promiscuous mode and capture packets. I think wireshark does it. You can then analyse the protocol based on the packets you. Harvest (possibly)
[19:24] <Ste4lth> rofl
[19:24] <wahben> Can someone help?
[19:24] <Ste4lth> wahben: set them back
[19:24] <wahben> Ste4lth, can't set them back without root access
[19:24] <Ste4lth> wahben: login as root, actually login, not sudo, and set them back
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> wahben: boot to root recovery mode and chmod/chown it back
[19:25] <Ste4lth> or that. that works too
[19:25] <wahben> Can't sudo with wront permissions, no-one knows the root password, server cannot be booted in recovery mode because I only have remote access.
[19:25] <bastidrazor> Ste4lth: ubuntu server or any ubuntu does not have root enabled
[19:25] <lock> sounds like he might be in the hotseat :)
[19:25] <goltoof> some noob questions, whats a simple summary of all drives mounted, i just want to see the 3 or 4 plugged in that i actually want to use :)
[19:25] <lock> bastidrazor: it is not hard to enable though
[19:25] <Ste4lth> bastidrazor: you could reset the root passwd and enable it in like seconds.
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> wahben: there isn't one. So you can drop to root recovery with no issue
[19:25] <Pici> goltoof: mount
[19:26] <goltoof> Pici: i said simple
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> wahben: or boot to livecd. Mount the partition then modify
[19:26] <Ste4lth> ActionParsnip: he has "remote access" only
[19:26] <wahben> ActionParsnip, I don't have physical access to the server...
[19:26] <el> the main thing stoping me transitioning to ubuntu is torrent client migration.
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> goltoof: you don't mount drives
[19:26] <wahben> I can login as my user and su root, but I don't have the root password
[19:26] <erUSUL> wahben: if you disabled sudo and root is not enabled or/and you do not know the password the only way to fix is rebooting the machine either to a livecd or recovery mode
[19:26] <goltoof> Pici:   there was another that showed only a couple, not all, i'd like to tell what size they are too
[19:26] <Ste4lth> go su root
[19:26] <el> anyone have any tips to make it easier?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> wahben: then you'll need a smarthands request ;)
[19:27] <el> to transition from windows.
[19:27] <wahben> Ok thanks all... will try to find some vulnerable package and "hack" into it........
[19:27] <goltoof> ActionParsnip: no already mounted, just want to see where they are, and how much space
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Ste4lth: they don't know the root pass
[19:27] <lock> lol good luck!
[19:27] <wahben> I mean I have user access, shouldn't be too hard to jailbreak...
[19:27] <erUSUL> el: what 's the problem with the torrent client migration ?
[19:28] <Ste4lth> wahben: hacking, if you know how
[19:28] <el> I have over 100 torrents I am seeding and they aren't in uniform locations
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> goltoof: df -h will show used / free space. You could use: mount | grep sd
[19:28] <el> So I would have to individually add many of them.
[19:28] <wahben> This happened to me before but I had the root password
[19:28] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:   thx
[19:28] <Ste4lth> so, how did you change the permissions of a file that is root owned
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> wahben: i'd ask local admins to fix then don't touch the file again
[19:29] <erUSUL> Ste4lth: with sudo
[19:29] <wahben> so I fixed it.... anyways quick reminder to all out there: Never sudo chmod 777 /etc/sudoers  on a production server if you don't have the root password
[19:29] <laci_> sya
[19:29] <wahben> Ste4lth, I am a sudoer so I can change it
[19:29] <erUSUL> wahben: never chmod 777 period.
[19:29] <Ste4lth> wahben: quick note, don't screw with stuff you don't know about on a productino server.
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Ste4lth: sudo chown etc. The os moans if its chmodded wrong
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> wahben: just don't touch the file and you'll be fine
[19:30] <erUSUL> wahben: chmod 777 is hardly ever the right answer to anything.
[19:30] <wahben> well I have done this before, I didn't know the command to add a sudoer, so I just edited the /etc/sudoers file and added the user
[19:30] <Ste4lth> yea, guys, i know he could have sudoed, but why wouldn't he have stayed sudoed and changed it back
[19:30] <wahben> but to edit /etc/sudoers you need write access as root
[19:30] <puddles> wahben: that's somehow surprising?
[19:30] <wahben> so you need to at least chmod 733
[19:30] <bastidrazor> wahben: add the user to the admin group.. sudo adduser username admin
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> Ste4lth: the file with the wrong chmod won't be accessible
[19:30] <erUSUL> Ste4lth: DO NOT DO THIS « sudo chmod 777 /etc/sudoers » bang you are dead
[19:31] <puddles> wahben: why do you like the +x bit so much?
[19:31] <Ste4lth> erUSUL: i am aware lol
[19:31] <wahben> puddles, I don't need the +x, I just didn't care too much.. 777 then sudo back to its original permissions after editing
[19:31] <wahben> anyways.. it was wrong now I need to fix it
[19:31] <erUSUL> Ste4lth: quote « but why wouldn't he have stayed sudoed and changed it back »
[19:31] <Saik> [13:31] <Saik> hey guys. how do you input special characters like ñ for example?
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> wahben: there are structured ways to edit the file but you won't have to 99.9999% oftimes
[19:32] <Ste4lth> erUSUL: if you didn't logout, you would stay sudoed, wouldn't you?
[19:32] <bastidrazor> wahben: sudo visudo  didn't allow you to edit the file?
[19:32] <erUSUL> wahben: to edit sudoers you allways use « sudo visudo »
[19:32] <wahben> Ste4lth, if you sodo chmod *SOMFILE*, then you are back to a non root shell
[19:32] <erUSUL> Ste4lth: no; sudo applies to individual commands not to a session
[19:33] <erUSUL> Ste4lth: unless you did « sudo -i »
[19:33] <Ste4lth> erUSUL: im thinking of sudo su
[19:33] <wahben> so if you sudo chmod **SOMEPERM** /etc/sudoers , then the next time you try to sudo it doesn't allow you
[19:33] <Ste4lth> wahben: should have switched users "sudo su"
[19:33] <wahben> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0733, should be 0440
[19:33] <wahben> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[19:33] <wahben> Ste4lth, you are right
[19:34] <Pici> wahben: you shouldn't be touching the permissions of sudoers, ever.  If you want to modify it use visudo.
[19:34] <Ste4lth> wahben: how did you fix?
[19:34] <wahben> Ste4lth, I will try to jailbreak
[19:35] <Ste4lth> wahben: how are you gonna do that
[19:35] <wahben> I mean to gain root access whatever the term is
[19:35] <erUSUL> wahben: anyway the initial comment still stands --> if you disabled sudo and root is not enabled or/and you do not know the password the only way to fix is rebooting the machine either to a livecd or recovery mode
[19:35] <wahben> Ste4lth, find a vulnerable package..
[19:35] <Ste4lth> wahben: ah, the hacker type :D
[19:35] <mccoy> i agree
[19:35] <Ste4lth> that's always fun.
[19:36] <wahben> alright, ciao guys :-) have a nice day.
[19:36] <frold> Related to SVN: I have deleted some files in my Trunk folder. Howto inform my SVN about that?
[19:37] <PrebenR> Hi I only get wireless working in 10.10 if I have turned wireless on before boot. If I turn it on after kernel modules etc are not loaded
[19:37] <Pici> frold: I'd guess 'svn delete' , but #subversion probably has a better answer.
[19:37] <PrebenR> is there any fix for this?
[19:37] <Lint01> frold, you should have use svn to delete files
[19:37] <Saik> [13:31] <Saik> hey guys. how do you input special characters like ñ for example?
[19:38] <Ste4lth> alt codes
[19:38] <Lint01> Saik, copy/paste
[19:38] <Saik> Ste4lth: like in windows?
[19:38] <Ste4lth> Saik: right.
[19:39] <Saik> Ste4lth: thanks
[19:39] <Lint01> how to delete all development files from my machibe in one command?
[19:40] <Ste4lth> Lint01: umm...why would you want to do that
[19:40] <frold> thanks Pici and Lint01
[19:40] <Lint01> Ste4lth, because thy'retaking valuable space
[19:40] <Ste4lth> Lint01, i don't think there's one unified command to do that
[19:41] <Somelauw> Hi, is ubuntu started on default with root access? Also what is the name of the configuration file which tells me what processes are started at startup?
[19:41] <Ste4lth> Somelauw: that's laughable, and you'll find all of those files in /etc/init.d
[19:43] <blackplague1347> Hi folks. Anyone know how I can manually install a Sims 3 patch? I'm trying to play it on Wine, but I need a patch before I move on to the next step.
[19:44] <Saik> Ste4lth: is that ubuntu-specific?
[19:44] <Ste4lth> Saik: not sure, but if it works in ubuntu then it should work in debian as well, and most other mainstream distros
[19:44] <Saik> Ste4lth: the one I was asking for says it doesn't
[19:45] <sosaited> Is it possible that Grub uses grub.cfg from sda, while it is installed in the MBR of sdb?
[19:45] <Saik> (I had suggested it to him first actually)
[19:45] <Casper__> nchand, are you there? :]
[19:45] <Somelauw> Well, I wondered because when I type shutdown -s in a terminal it asks me for a password, whereas when I shutdown by using gnome nothing gets asked?
[19:45] <Ste4lth> sosaited, yes, and it's a bitch to fix.
[19:45] <ssureshot> afternoon
[19:46] <Ste4lth> Saik: hmm...idk.
[19:46] <Saik> Somelauw: that's cause the GUI assumes you're there. to do that in the console you have to identify yourself as at the computer or have power over it
[19:46] <sosaited> Ste4lth: It is working for now, so I don't want to fix it *for now*. But I was going to report a bug related to this problem on Unetbootin so was wondering if this should go in that or grub mailing list
[19:47] <Ste4lth> sosaited: it should be reported to ubuntu and grub, because it's a component in both
[19:47] <Saik> Ste4lth: yea, my thoughts exactly lol
[19:48] <Somelauw> Yes, but I though that gnome transparantly makes a call to the shutdown function. And if it calls the shutdown function, it needs to have some sort or root access.
[19:48] <kermit> how do i get scp to use larger windows?  transfers are really slow over long-fat connections the way it's doing it.
[19:48] <Kartagis> how do I unzip multi volume zip files?
[19:48] <Penol> Net::twitter dont work on my server :( http://pastebin.no/z3282
[19:48] <Ste4lth> Somelauw: X Server (and gnome) are run under root, but you don't have root acesss to the applications run under it, like nautilius
[19:49] <tim> whenever I try to connect to a printer on my network I get asked for a samba password. I know I am entering the correct password but it is still saying that is wrong. How can I resolve this issue?
[19:50] <Saik> Ste4lth: you on ubuntu right now?
[19:50] <blackplague1347> Anyone know where I could find help for my Sims 3/Wine problems? Preferably in IRC. I'm searching the crap out of Google right now.
[19:50] <SharkWipf> Does anyone know how to invoke the kernel option "isolcpus" (or similair) on the fly, without reboot?
[19:50] <Pici> blackplague1347: #winehq and the appdb
[19:50] <Pici> !appdb | blackplague1347
[19:50] <Saik> blackplague1347: did you install winetricks?
[19:51] <firewalker22> hello
[19:51] <eviliguana> Hi, can someone help me with a networking issue here?
[19:51] <marel> how do I open a file with gedit in a new window, not terminal ?
[19:51] <blackplague1347> Yeah, I have winetricks. I've run a few things with it, and Sims 3 no longer crashes at the desktop. Now I just need to get patched.
[19:51] <sosaited> Ste4lth: The bug is not specifically this. Its that when I run Unetbootin on my current partition (sda, grub.cfg residing here, grub itself on sdb). All entries made by Unetbootin give "can't load kernel, can't find file" error. The most weird part is that if I look up the commands of my main Ubuntu 10.10, which is in sda, it shows (hd0). But the Unetbootin commands don't work with that. I have to change them to (hd2).
[19:52] <Esat> How to hide grids on openoffice.org calculate?
[19:52] <Saik> blackplague1347: did you run the patcher through the terminal?
[19:52] <derekkey[PL]> Hello everybody :) I'm from Poland :)
[19:52] <jymere> hi
[19:52] <firewalker22> I recently upgraded from mytbuntu 8->10, now my windows partions can't be seen....anyone got any tips?
[19:52] <blackplague1347> No, how do I do that? I just downloaded the patch (.zip) from a mirror online.
[19:52] <Saik> firewalker22: remount them
[19:52] <jymere> so I want some help about firewall configuration
[19:52] <derekkey[PL]> I have question :) Any body use simething like "VMLITE"??
[19:52] <Somelauw> marel: when starting gedit from a terminal type gedit&.
[19:52] <firewalker22> I am having trouble doing that Saik
[19:53] <Saik> blackplague1347: wine /dir/here (and unzip it)
[19:53] <sosaited> firewalker22: You can't see them in the grub menu?
[19:53] <Saik> firewalker22: errors?
[19:53] <nazgjunk> Hrm.  I'm walking into an issue with audacity - I can record just fine, but only one track.  The next track makes stuff stall and doesn't produce anything useful.  Doesn't matter which microphone I use, but it works again when I disable the overdub option (ie, don't play existing tracks while recording).  Anyone seen this before?
[19:53] <jymere> I create a file pf.conf which contain the two lines : block in all  // block out all
[19:53] <firewalker22> they are partitions, that use ntfs sosaited, not an OS
[19:54] <blackplague1347> Saik, can I just leave it in my downloads folder or do I need to put it somewhere in my c: drive with the rest of my Sims stuff?
[19:54] <erUSUL> jymere: what firewall are you using?
[19:54] <sosaited> Can you see them in Disk Utility? (System > Administration > Disk Utility
[19:54] <Saik> blackplague1347: you have to unzip the patch
[19:54] <SharkWipf> is there a way to completely unload a cpu core, and make the kernel stop using it, as with the kernel option "isolcpus=n", without reboot?
[19:54] <klandestino> hi all! Can someone tell me how i prevent my ATI to turn on on boot on ubuntu 10.10?
[19:54] <Saik> blackplague1347: unless it gave it the wrong extetion
[19:55] <firewalker22> Yeah saik, I am thinking maybe I have the mounting syntax wrong, or maybe mythbuntu does not support the ntfs file system in version 10
[19:55] <karlw> Has anyone gotten a dual boot install to work on new iMacs?
[19:55] <Jibadeeha> i have a corrupt NTFS partition, is it possible to recreate the partition in ubuntu and not lose the data
[19:55] <firewalker22> I tried adding a line to fstab, but it doesn't work
[19:55] <Esat> how to hide grids in openoffice.org SpreadSheet??
[19:55] <SharkWipf> klandestino: only the drivers, or the entire card?
[19:55] <blackplague1347> Saik, Can I just extract it like I would any other file?
[19:55] <Saik> firewalker22: sudo mount /dev/sdxy /dir/here/       sudo monunt /dev/sda1 ~/win
[19:56] <jymere> as a result I have no open hubs ( port i don't know the exactly term in english)
[19:56] <klandestino> the entire card. its overheating and i would like to have it off.
[19:56] <Saik> blackplague1347: if it's just a zip? just like any other
[19:56] <SharkWipf> klandestino: oh, sorry, then I can't help you ;)
[19:56] <jymere> si i want to open tcp port and I add: pass in proto tcp to any port // pass out proto tcp to any port
[19:57] <klandestino> ok. No problem. but thanks :)
[19:57] <mccoy> jymere, are you using ubuntu server?
[19:57] <SharkWipf> klandestino: but, if you find out, I'd like to know as well, having an 5700 in my laptop ;)
[19:57] <jymere> no it's juste for fun
[19:57] <karlw> jymere: You mean like telnet?
[19:57] <blackplague1347> Saik, I right-click the file and select the extract option but I get an error: /home/user/Downloads/sims3_update.zip: Can not open file as archive
[19:58] <klandestino> ok. if i find, i will tell you. i will memorize your nick for later :)
[19:58] <Farmer_> hi, i have a problem with playing amr-audio. i added the medibuntu repository and installed the libs. if i do: "mplayer -ac help | grep amr" it returns "ffamrnb     ffmpeg    working   AMR Narrowband  [libamr_nb] & ffamrwb     ffmpeg    working   AMR Wideband  [libamr_wb]" but it still wont play the audio because: "Cannot find codec 'libamr_nb' in libavcodec... [etc.]". Anyone has an idea how to get that working?
[19:58] <jymere> karlw: that's the point
[19:58] <mccoy> jymere, if I may ask, what is your end objective?
[19:58] <karlw> jymere: Try using Python's TCP library.
[19:59] <firewalker22> saik in fstab it wants me to identify a file system (device name   mount point     fs-type      options                 dump-freq pass-num) what should I list for the fs-type?
[19:59] <jymere> i want to open my http port and i want to know which rules i have to add
[19:59] <Saik> blackplague1347: run it through with wine then
[19:59] <klandestino> Can someone tell me how i prevent my ATI to turn on on boot on ubuntu 10.10? or to completely turn off?
[19:59] <Saik> blackplague1347: wine /home/user/Downloads/sims3_update.zip
[19:59] <karlw> jymere: Have you installed Apache?
[19:59] <jymere> in fact i have to open the 80 port
[20:00] <Saik> firewalker22: ntfs I assume? ntfs-3g
[20:00] <puddles> klandestino: laptop?
[20:00] <jymere> no it's on my computer home
[20:00] <klandestino> yes
[20:00] <puddles> klandestino: which model?
[20:00] <klandestino> acer 3820tg timelinex
[20:00] <karlw> jymere: Run an HTTP server socket that listens on port 80.
[20:00] <firewalker22> this may be a dumb question....what is the "3g" part, I just tried ntfs
[20:00] <jymere> so I add: pass in proto http 80
[20:01] <puddles> klandestino: don't know that one.  but if it has both the ATI and the on-board intel you should go into bios and pick which one is active on boot
[20:01] <jymere> but it doesn't work
[20:01] <frold> Related to SVN and a wordpress plugin. When I type: svn ci -m "text" it ask for password - where to find that password?
[20:01] <puddles> firewalker22: ntfs3g = third generation of ntfs driver
[20:01] <SharkWipf> puddles: mine hasn't got an option to disable a videocard
[20:01] <jymere> well it's too dicificult to explain in live i'll create a new topic it'll be clear
[20:01] <SharkWipf> puddles: (also ATI)
[20:01] <blackplague1347> Saik, it results in "wine: Bad EXE format for [/path/to/file.zip]"
[20:02] <puddles> sharkwipf: mine does (lenovo) :-)
[20:02] <karlw> jymere: Perhaps we could sort this out easier through private messages.
[20:02] <klandestino> puddless---in bios, it only have the option to shutdown the intel.
[20:02] <firewalker22> thanks puddles and saik
[20:02] <mccoy> ha ha, pudddles, I thought you meant cellular
[20:02] <Saik> blackplague1347: you sure it's supposed to be a zip then?
[20:02] <klandestino> i will try to find a way
[20:02] <klandestino> but thanks
[20:02] <karlw> jymere: May I msg you?
[20:02] <puddles> klandestino: there's got to be a preference for which one is preferred (i.e., onboard or pcie)
[20:03] <puddles> klandestino: onboard is probably the intel one, and pcie is probably the ati one
[20:03] <blackplague1347> Saik, I could be wrong I guess.
[20:03] <jymere> karlw: no thanks I'll post a new topic
[20:03] <firewalker22> is it possible that mythbuntu version 10 has stripped away ntfs support from the base system and that I need to install some sort of support for it through synaptic package manager?
[20:03] <Saik> blackplague1347: lemme check what it should be then
[20:03] <klandestino> nop. it only have 2 options: integrated or switchable
[20:03] <jymere> it's just for fun and to learn how configure a firewall
[20:03] <ari5av> hi folks.  I use ubuntu server (maverick) on a very small web server, and I'm looking for a very lightweight gui to install which would let me do some basic web browsing when vnc'ed into it.  what do you guys recommend?
[20:03] <blackplague1347> Thanks Saik.
[20:03] <puddles> klandestino: then you pick "integrated"
[20:03] <puddles> klandestino: and turn off "switchable" or turn off "os detection"
[20:03] <karlw> jymere: Okay.
[20:04] <klandestino> but if i choose integrated it gets ati on
[20:04] <puddles> klandestino: ahhhhh that sounds wrong.  integrated should be the intel gpu
[20:04] <klandestino> ahhh sorry puddles!
[20:04] <klandestino> i make confusion!
[20:04] <ari5av> I'm thinking I should install xfce because it needs to be way lightweight, but if there's anything else that'll support, say, chrome, I'd be open to suggestions
[20:05] <klandestino> its discrete or switchable
[20:05] <klandestino> lol
[20:05] <klandestino> sorry
[20:05] <puddles> klandestino: alright.  discrete in this case would be the ATI ASIC :-)
[20:05] <klandestino> yep
[20:05] <firewalker22> I mean after all mythbuntu doesn't even use gnome, is it possible they stipped ntfs support as part of the 'streamline' process?
[20:05] <puddles> klandestino: so i suppose you could try switchable and NOT load the ati driver ;-)
[20:05] <ari5av> ...anyone?
[20:06] <puddles> klandestino: on my W500 there's another option to explicitly disable OS detection for switchable graphics
[20:06] <Saik> blackplague1347: is it an official update?
[20:06] <puddles> klandestino: you might want to see whether an updated bios provides that option
[20:06] <frold> solved my wordpress.org password
[20:06] <Buttons840> can anyone suggest to me an easy way to record what comes out of my speakers digitally, using the os or some other software?
[20:07] <SharkWipf> ari5av: how lightweight do you want it to be? gnome is pretty lightweight allready, compared to windoze
[20:07] <klandestino> can i post a command here? is it allowed?
[20:07] <puddles> ari5av: the chumby is pretty lightweight
[20:07] <blackplague1347> Saik, It's not directly from EA, if that's what you mean. I got it through some other site.
[20:07] <sosaited> klandestino: Yes.
[20:07] <BluesKaj> klandestino, depends
[20:07] <Annod3> hey everyone. When I tried to install ubuntu 10.10 the pixels on my screen come all messed up. I can still see the windows from my Windows 7 Install. My graphics card is nvidia 240
[20:07] <trojan_spike> klandestino, depends on command,, common sense is best used
[20:07] <Buttons840> klandestino: make sure what you paste is not long, no longer than one line
[20:07] <puddles> ari5av: it's also only 3.4" or so
[20:07] <karlw> ari5av: There's xfce and icewm.
[20:08] <Saik> blackplague1347: update directly through sis3
[20:08] <ari5av> SharkWipf: gnome is totally not lightweight.  i don't need all the extra crap that's installed, I pretty much need a blank desktop, a way to open xterm, and one of the major two web browsers.
[20:08] <klandestino> i already dis this: DIGD > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch  -> it disables ati
[20:08] <ari5av> preferably chrome.
[20:08] <Saik> sims3*
[20:08] <blackplague1347> Runs sims 3 with Wine and then update, Saik?
[20:08] <sponix> Ubuntu 10.10 aye ... Anyone think the netbook edition is sexy ? Or is it an utter waist of time ?
[20:08] <klandestino> but on shutdown i need to turn it on again or ubuntu dont shut down
[20:08] <Saik> blackplague1347: there's an updater in sims3, try that
[20:09] <wasutton3_> does anyone have an idea of how long it might take to find the number of characters in a file that may have a few trillion characters in it?
[20:09] <karlw> ari5av: Fluxbox is very lightweight.
[20:09] <trojan_spike> spoljo, catwalk sexy ;)
[20:09] <puddles> klandestino: /etc/rc.local ?
[20:09] <trojan_spike> sponix, catwalk sexy
[20:09] <erUSUL> wasutton3_: a few trillion!? "wc" counts chars.
[20:10] <blackplague1347> Saik, when I start the Sims 3 it offers an update. I try to run it and the program crashes. The EA downloader program does not work either. I think this is why websites are telling me to install the path manually.
[20:10] <ari5av> karlw: fluxbox, *that's* the one I was trying to think of
[20:10] <klandestino> puddles-- yes
[20:10] <wasutton3_> erUSUL: yes, im working with the Chudnovsky algorithm.
[20:10] <blackplague1347> Saik: I think I may have found official patches on the Sims 3 forums.
[20:10] <SharkWipf> ari5av: hmm, well, in that case, LXDE does pretty much support everything, AFAIK, and is lightweight, I don't know about other desktops, but my ancient (as in ANCIENT) laptop could run lxde without problems
[20:10] <wasutton3_> it takes about 2 seconds to count up to 100Million
[20:10] <Somelauw> Stealth, thanks for your explanation.
[20:10] <SharkWipf> oops, too late
[20:10] <klandestino> but i need to add a command to turn it on before shutdown.
[20:10] <magn3ts_> Is there any way I can build my own kernel easily in ubuntu?
[20:10] <magn3ts_> !kernel
[20:10] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, do you use 'playonlinux'?
[20:10] <Saik> blackplague1347: that could be, did you run it in compatability mode?
[20:10] <klandestino> or ubuntu don't shut down
[20:11] <karlw> ari5av: I kind of like ratpoison.
[20:11] <ari5av> well, this isn't really an ancient box, it's about 5 years old I th=ink
[20:11] <ari5av> -=
[20:11] <Annod3> can anyone help me?
[20:11] <sponix> trojan_spike:  would you ever think about running it on a standard laptop ? .. 15 Inch Dell Inspiron 6400, Core2Duo, 2G Ram, 100G HD, ATI X1400 Graphics ... About the power of todays netbooks ;)
[20:11] <trojan_spike> sponix, deffo not , that laptop is capable of alot more
[20:11] <ari5av> Annod3: just ask.
[20:12] <karlw> ari5av: The purpose of X11 is better terminal font resolution :-)
[20:12] <Saik> ari5av: just fyi, 5 years IS ancient in the moddern world of computers
[20:12] <Annod3> i already did =(
[20:12] <dospod> anybody use oracles vm virtual box program
[20:12] <wasutton3_> dospod: yes
[20:12] <ari5av> Saik: not for a simple apache server. :)
[20:12] <dospod> do you know how to set up networking on it
[20:12] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike, yes I use playonlinux
[20:12] <wasutton3_> dospod: it should automatically do it, bu that depends on what you need it to do
[20:12] <trojan_spike> dospod, whats the question?
[20:12] <dospod> I cannot seem to give my virtualbox Internet access
[20:12] <klandestino> puddles: now two problems: or find a way to unload the ati modules (if it work) or find a way to add a comand on some file that gets to shutdown ubuntu
[20:13] <Saik> ari5av: granted. I didn't read the erlier stuff, sorry
[20:13] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, patch it with that
[20:13] <blackplague1347> Saik, how do I use compatability mode? Sorry, I'm new to linux in general, and Wine specifically.
[20:13] <wasutton3_> dospod: what is the guest os
[20:13] <dospod> Im running 10.10 ubuntu on laptop and I get internet from eth1 which is my wifi
[20:13] <ari5av> it's got apache, some very light mysql usage, php5, and a few static pages and rarely an image or two.  I use it more for irssi than I do for a web server. :)
[20:13] <dospod> im trying to install gentoo using the minimal.iso
[20:13] <Saik> blackplague1347: winecfg
[20:13] <klandestino> and dont know if unloading modules will prevent ati from turn on.
[20:13] <dospod> but I have no internet access it seems
[20:13] <SharkWipf> klandestino: I believe you can make an initscript that runs on shutdown
[20:13] <hariom> Hi, I see that my .bash_history has entry of password written in clear ASCII text
[20:14] <ari5av> it's not a terrible box either - two p4 cores, 1.5gb of ram, fast-ish hard drives, good working condition.
[20:14] <BluesKaj> dospod, maybe the ppl at #gentoo can help you
[20:14] <ari5av> I keep it very clean, too
[20:14] <wasutton3_> dospod: try enablign multiple network intefaces. set one to eth0, one to eth1, and one to wlan0 just for kicks
[20:14] <SharkWipf> klandestino: and unloading modules wont stop it from turning on, AFAIK
[20:14] <hariom> How can password go into history? If I press up arrow key, I see password in clear text
[20:14] <ari5av> which is why I'm worried about installing an X server - last I tried, it was not pretty. :)
[20:14] <karlw> ari5av: Go with ratpoison.
[20:14] <ari5av> ratpoison?
[20:14] <klandestino> ahhh.  i was fearing that
[20:14] <aCleverMoniker> Hey guys.  I was having an issue with nfs-kernel-server before, so I removed it and will be installing samba later... but for some reason /var/www is still shared.  I can still access it on any box on the network.
[20:14] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike, where do I find the option to install the patch? I used playonlinux to install the sims 3 in the first place, but I didn't see any option to install a patch as well.
[20:14] <ari5av> never heard of it...
[20:14] <aCleverMoniker> Is there a way to check which directories are being shared?  Could it be shared by a different service?
[20:15] <karlw> ari5av: http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/
[20:15] <SharkWipf> klandestino: maybe unloading the modules does solve the 'not shutting down' problem though...
[20:15] <Annod3> hey everyone. When I tried to install ubuntu 10.10 the pixels on my screen come all messed up. I can still see the windows from my Windows 7 Install. My graphics card is nvidia 240
[20:15] <cragdor> Anyone know of an issue with nvidia GTS250 not being picked up as supported by propriatary driver?#
[20:15] <klandestino> yeah, maybe you right!
[20:15] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, /install/ 2nd from bottom (above testing) it's there
[20:15] <puddles> klandestino: for my laptop the only way to get ATI to not come on is to explicitly disable in bios
[20:16] <SharkWipf> klandestino: you're not using ATI setup in your xorg.conf (if any), are you?
[20:16] <puddles> klandestino: if i use switchable then the ATI still comes on and it gets hot (and sucks up more juice)
[20:16] <puddles> klandestino: even if i don't load the radeon module or run the radeon x server
[20:16] <klandestino> yes, like me
[20:16] <ari5av> actually looking at the different ones available, i'm kind of leaning towards xfce.
[20:16] <puddles> klandestino: check with acer maybe?
[20:16] <Nayr> hola
[20:16] <klandestino> already did and nothing
[20:16] <ari5av> wow, ratpoison's a little TOO simple :)
[20:17] <blackplague1347> Saik, I don't see the compatability mode option. I clicked each tab. Which one is it under?
[20:17] <moho> check with the trashman also
[20:17] <Saik> !es | Nayr
[20:17] <ari5av> reminds me of the original mac os classic, where windows couldn't overlap each other
[20:17] <BajK_> So, now the ask-question routine in Kubuntu's default plymouth theme works just fine beside the fact there is no text scrolling on overflow.
[20:17] <klandestino> i will find if onluading modules will fix the problem of shutdown
[20:17] <Saik> blackplague1347: sould be under the main one, or display
[20:17] <SharkWipf> klandestino: you know which modules to unload?
[20:18] <klandestino> nop. but i blacklisted radeon on blacklist file
[20:18] <aCleverMoniker> I've got nfs-kernel-server uninstalled and I don't have samba, but I can still see /var/www on other boxes on my network.  Is it possible that apache is doing this?
[20:18] <aCleverMoniker> If not, what else could be?
[20:19] <ari5av> thanks for help, folks.
[20:19] <SharkWipf> klandestino: hmm, correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe you need to disable fglrx as well
[20:19] <karlw> ari5av: If you want more control, try http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/
[20:19] <Nayr> Tengo un problema. Mi escritorio no funciona con ubuntu netbook. No puedo hacer iconos. ayuda!
[20:19] <Saik> Nayr: vas a #ubuntu-es
[20:19] <Saik> va*
 klandestino: you're not using ATI setup in your xorg.conf (if any), are you?  SORRY-  i already search xorg.conf and the file is empty.
[20:20] <klandestino> already blaklisted fglrx too.
[20:20] <SharkWipf> klandestino: ok, that is good
[20:20] <Saik> Nayr: nadia aquí hablan español
[20:20] <BluesKaj> !es
[20:20] <aCleverMoniker> Is there any way to check why a directory is being shared over my network?
[20:20] <SharkWipf> klandestino: radeonfb?
[20:20] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike, I don't see it anywhere. I open PlayOnLinux, there are icons at the top (run, install, remove, configure, close all). :(
[20:21] <klandestino> Sharkwipf--what is radeonfb?
[20:21] <BluesKaj> aCleverMoniker, maybe  another user has permissions
[20:21] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, under 'install',, then on the left /'patches'
[20:21] <SharkWipf> klandestino: well, fb stands for framebuffer, don't know the details actually
[20:22] <SharkWipf> klandestino: just running some searches on the available modules ;)
[20:22] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, if its not there,, go to the playonlinux site and update ded package
[20:22] <puddles> klandestino: radeonfb = framebuffer (graphics mode) console using the radeon asic
[20:22] <aCleverMoniker> BluesKaj, I can see it from both windows and osx through the network panels.  nfs-kernel-server is no longer installed and I don't have samba.
[20:22] <slgma> how come brasero always createsr an image checksum in 10.10
[20:22] <trojan_spike> deb
[20:22] <klandestino> if i blacklist radeon it should blacklist radeonfb... i think...
[20:22] <slgma> theres no way to turn that crap off
[20:22] <puddles> klandestino: they're separate
[20:22] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike, Ah okay. It does say that my POL is out of date, so maybe that will help me find it.
[20:22] <SharkWipf> klandestino: sudo modprobe -l | grep -i ati
[20:23] <puddles> klandestino: radeon = kernel drm module, radeonfb = framebuffer driver
[20:23] <Syburg> i guess that this question is going on your nerves already, but is there a solution to the problem when tring to connect to icq via empathy?
[20:23] <puddles> klandestino: fglrx = binary-only driver
[20:23] <klandestino> ahhh :)
[20:23] <BluesKaj> aCleverMoniker, well, you must have smb installed, it's default I think
[20:23] <puddles> klandestino: you have to catch them all :-)
[20:23] <aCleverMoniker> BluesKaj, smb is not installed.
[20:23] <klandestino> :D true XD
[20:23] <SharkWipf> puddles: ah, didn't know that
[20:24] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike, do I just download the .deb and install it?
[20:24] <klandestino> let me reboot to see if i catch it all :D
[20:24] <puddles> oooh, the chumby hacker board has arduino pin headers on the back ... awesome
[20:24] <BluesKaj> ssh and putty etc on the othe machines , aCleverMoniker
[20:24] <klandestino> brb
[20:24] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, yea,, that will update ur playonlinux
[20:25] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, make sure its the deb(ubuntu) one
[20:25] <aCleverMoniker> BluesKaj, I can see it on both boxes when I'm not ssh'd in.
[20:25] <apparle> has anyone used lirc mouse in 10.04 or 10.10?
[20:25] <SharkWipf> so, in the meantime, anyone know how to completely clear a cpu, the same way kernel option isolcpus does?
[20:26] <Jibadeeha> anyone had much look with photorec
[20:26] <BluesKaj> aCleverMoniker, it could be any number of networking apps being used
[20:26] <dans326> Im doing a fresh setup of a server can someone suggest a FTP client thats easilly configured via webmin
[20:26] <aCleverMoniker> BluesKaj, which ones should I look for (not nfs-kernel-server or samba)?  Is there a way to do a general check of which directories are shared?
[20:26] <SharkWipf> (during runtime, that is)
[20:27] <siddhion> where is the directory that wallpaper images are stored in ubuntu 10.04?
[20:27] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike, Erm...how do I install a local package? It's on my desktop.
[20:27]  * hashashin nas
[20:27] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347,  double click on it,, software centre will install it.
[20:28] <SharkWipf> still nobody?
[20:28] <ThisBeMyNick> siddhion: /usr/share/backgrounds
[20:28] <trojan_spike> siddhion, usr/share/backgrounds..  root to access and change
[20:29] <DarsVaeda> anyone know a program that allows me to have an image or video file as a video/webcam device?
[20:29] <aeon-ltd> DarsVaeda: trying to do some chatroulette pranking :) ???
[20:30] <trojan_spike> DarsVaeda, cheese is the most common
[20:30] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike: Ah, okay. Gotta reinstall PlayOnLinux. Then I can get the patch directly from there, yes?
[20:30] <DarsVaeda> nah I'm  banned on chatroulette ^^
[20:30] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, yup
[20:30] <siddhion> ThisBeMyNick, trojan_spike  thanks
[20:30] <DarsVaeda> no seriously...cheese can do that? wow, thanks
[20:31] <trojan_spike> lol
[20:31] <trojan_spike> banned
[20:31] <devilhan> Need help with Ubuntu keyboard on a Macbook pro
[20:31] <aeon-ltd> !ask | devilhan
[20:31] <devilhan> my "Down" button doesn't work, but with "fn" press at the same time, "Page down" does work!
[20:31] <devilhan> thanks guys
[20:31] <devilhan> this is the first Gen MBP with Ubuntu 10.10
[20:32] <puddles> sharkwipf: there's a way
[20:32] <siddhion> when i try to move a .jpg into usr/share/background it says ''mv: cannot create regular file `/usr/share/backgrounds/SnowLeo.jpg': Permission denied'. Why is this ?
[20:32] <DarsVaeda> trojan_spike how can cheese do that? i see nothing like it in that prog?
[20:32] <devilhan> It seems like the "Down" button is mapped to "Alt" for some reason, because it seems to have the same behavior of the "Alt" button
[20:32] <SharkWipf> puddles: lol, internet problems?
[20:33] <trojan_spike> DarsVaeda, soz,, i thought u just mean webcam software
[20:33] <DarsVaeda> nope
[20:33] <hoody> yo
[20:33] <puddles> sharkwipf: xchat died :-p
[20:33] <moho> ho
[20:33] <hoody> I;m tryng to install dual boot 10.10 on an iMac 11,3
[20:33] <devilhan> anyone know how to troubleshoot keyboard problems, please help, :)
[20:33] <SharkWipf> puddles: ah, ok :)
[20:33] <puddles> echo 'n' > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online
[20:33] <hoody> tthe ubuntu guide says that the stabdard installation instructions will not work on new ubuntu or new imacs
[20:33] <savasci> hi all. Where are the source codes for generic bash commands? such as pstree, cat,ls?
[20:33] <hoody> so, question is, what will?
[20:34] <hoody> im looking for instructions on installing ubuntu 10.10 dual boot to the imac i5 11,3
[20:34] <hoody> or a link to
[20:34] <hoody> got it working on my macbook as a single boot, but it's notthe same process now...
[20:34] <savasci> hoody : wanna  go virtual?
[20:34] <Pici> savasci: I'd guess in coreutils... but it looks like pstree is in psmisc.  See dpkg -l `which pstree` for example.
[20:34] <hoody> no no
[20:35] <hoody> want native
[20:35] <hoody> virtual no good
[20:35] <SharkWipf> puddles: hmm, I know of that way, but it not what I want. That disables a cpu completely, and when reenabling it, it will be used again by the system
[20:35] <Pici> savasci: Er. I mean dpkg -S `which pstree`
[20:35] <Pici> !enter | hoody
[20:35] <savasci> hoody: why?
[20:35] <puddles> sharkwipf: so ... what do you want then? :-)
[20:35] <hoody> because virtual comes with some performance hits
[20:35] <hoody> which I'd rather avoid
[20:35] <savasci> Pici: thanks
[20:35] <amarcolino> using ubuntu server can't seem to mount cdrom keeps outputting "mount: can't find /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab", is there something I need to install for it to detect cdrom?
[20:35] <WINDOWS> HEY UBUNTU WANKERS!
[20:35] <SharkWipf> puddles: I want to 'reserve' a core for a single process
[20:35] <werd> ...i'm completely new to irc and the empathy/evolution email client... hate to just burst into the chat, but can someone explain how i can set up more than just one email address on empathy/evolution?
[20:35] <WINDOWS> WINDOWS7
[20:35] <WINDOWS> WINDOWS7
[20:35] <FloodBot3> WINDOWS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <siddhion> der, never mind, i had to sudo before the mv
[20:36] <draeath> What happened to intrepid? I can't find it on the main FTP, security, or the archive!
[20:36] <savasci> hoody: they are negligible if you don't do hardcore programming :D
[20:36] <devilhan> MBP "Down" key doesn't work on Ubuntu 10.10, please help
[20:36] <hoody> ok then
[20:36] <Lint01> draeath, it died from ld age
[20:36] <puddles> sharkwipf: that's tricky ... i don't see a straighforward way to do it.  but you could bind your heavy process to one cpu with "taskset"
[20:36] <hoody> do you have some nice suggestions ofr virtyuakl?
[20:36] <hoody> I'd try it!
[20:36] <draeath> Lint01: really? it's dropped?
[20:36] <hoody> savasci point me toward instructions if you would be so kind
[20:36] <Lint01> draeath, yes, check oldreleases.ubuntu.com
[20:36] <Pici> !intrepid | draeath
[20:36] <LucidGuy> Ubuntu internet sharing situation.  I have a simple HD/tv media player that only has wired network options but I have no way of wiring it to my distant router.  Is there a way to share my ubuntu netbooks wireless connection via its local ethernet port via a crossover to the media player?
[20:37] <puddles> sharkwipf: maybe you could taskset everything else to cpu0 and taskset the one you want to cpu1 :-)  hacky
[20:37] <trojan_spike> werd, u just add another A/C,, im not sure with evolution because i find thunderbird better..
[20:37] <timo> werd: in evolution, Edit -> Preferences -> Mail Accounts -> Add
[20:37] <draeath> ty Lint01 Pici
[20:37] <MPX> Herpa derp! Some of my MSN contacts on Empathy...when I click on their nicks, the window uses about 20 seconds to show and history is not saved after a certain date. I tried reinstalling empathy (purged configs) but that did not help. It's only on a few selected people though. Also, if they message me, I'll hear the sound, but no window will be shown so I have to guess which one it is
[20:37] <werd> trojan, what's an a/c and where do i find that?
[20:38] <SharkWipf> puddles: exactly what isocpus does, but at runtime. making taskset move all other processes seems a little like overkill
[20:38] <trojan_spike> werd, a/c = accound
[20:38] <devilhan> MBP "Down" key doesn't work on Ubuntu 10.10, please help
[20:38] <trojan_spike> account
[20:38] <blackplague1347> "dont use enter as punctuation" ha ha ha. Very well-put.
[20:39] <siddhion> how come when I do 'grep -R 'keyword' *' and then press ENTER Terminal will just move the cursor to another line?
[20:39] <puddles> sharkwipf: well, you don't have to :-)  that was for completeness
[20:39] <dans326> !gutsy
[20:39] <devilhan>  MBP1,1 "Down" key doesn't work on Ubuntu 10.10, please help
[20:39] <SharkWipf> puddles: "isocpus=5,7" will prevent the system to use cores 5 and 7, unless something is explicitly assigned to them
[20:39] <puddles> sharkwipf: but simply setting cpu affinity mask (taskset) for one heavy process should be sufficient
[20:39] <dans326> !maverick
[20:40] <Android001> what does rm -rf * do guys?
[20:40] <Android001> someone on the forums told me to use it..
[20:40] <devilhan> don't do it
[20:40] <dans326> makes the world go bye bye
[20:40] <puddles> android001: not much, or a lot, depending
[20:40] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike, playonlinux is telling me that the patch is no longer available on the server.
[20:40] <aeon-ltd> Android001: without sudo, nothin
[20:40] <LjL> Android001: it will delete every file in the current directory.
[20:40] <aeon-ltd> Android001: nothing much anyway, just everything in your ~?
[20:40] <aeon-ltd> ~/
[20:40] <Android001> aeon-ltd: sorry i meant sudo
[20:40] <aeon-ltd> Android001: it erases your hdd
[20:40] <LjL> aeon-ltd: "nothing"?
[20:40] <aeon-ltd> LjL: read my followups
[20:40] <Android001> oh rm = remove?
[20:41] <Android001> and rf = reformat?
[20:41] <aeon-ltd> Android001: yeah, catching on now :)
[20:41] <Android001> or something..
[20:41] <shazzr> Are there any keyboard shortcuts in Gwibber at all? Like for browsing through tweets...?
[20:41] <aeon-ltd> Android001: r - recursive f - force
[20:41] <puddles> android001: he was trying to be cute.  you don't have to "rm -fr *" ... just "strip /lib/libc.so"
[20:41] <LjL> Android001: "rm" = remove, "-r" = recursively, "-f" = force
[20:41] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, kk,, u will have to download it and put it in,, it might be an installer/more likely tho u will just have to put the file/s in the ditectory then simulate reboot
[20:41] <LjL> puddles: please don't give dangerous commands
[20:41] <puddles> android001: think about it .. a command that chucks away for a long time?  that's pretty obvious.  stripping libc?  instantaneous.
[20:42] <Android001> ye i know guys, was just seeing if you knew your stuff :) although i didnt know what aeon-ltd told me. thanks :)
[20:42] <SharkWipf> puddles: well, since single cores @ 1.60GHz arn't that fast, and the process will only run on a single core, I want to make it run as smoothly as possible [/late]
[20:42] <Android001> would like to learn and help :)
[20:42] <klandestino> Sharkwipf- and puddles-- nothing done. with modules disabled, codes on rc.local, and blacklisting, nothing done.
[20:42] <SharkWipf> klandestino: that's too bad...
[20:43]  * Android001 quite like Linux Mint
[20:43] <puddles> klandestino: i feel for you.  still hot?
[20:43] <klandestino> yep
[20:43] <klandestino> but...
[20:43] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, which sims do u have?
[20:43] <hind> I have a pdf files that opens only when I move to the home folder, also I have a binary file that executes only when moving to home, can you tell me how to solve that, I want to make them work in /media  ?
[20:43] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike, sims 3
[20:43] <SharkWipf> klandestino: does it indeed run on the intel GPU? or is it running VESA?
[20:43] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike, no expansions or anything.
[20:44] <aeon-ltd> Android001: to help all you need to do is share the information you know when someone asks the appropriate question, but be sure to not give out false or incorrect information, a slight letter alteration with sudo is enough to nuke a system
[20:44] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, the patch is here on my playonlinux
[20:44] <klandestino> Sharkwipf- both
[20:44] <klandestino> i even can disable ati
[20:44] <Android001> aeon-ltd: i am aware :)
[20:44] <klandestino> dont worry
[20:44] <aeon-ltd> hind: you don't have rights outside your /home, so you need to change them with chmod
[20:44] <klandestino> *Cant disable ati
[20:45] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, under 'patches',, there are sim3 updates etc
[20:45] <MPX> Herpa derp! Some of my MSN contacts on Empathy...when I click on their nicks, the window uses about 20 seconds to show and history is not saved after a certain date. I tried reinstalling empathy (purged configs) but that did not help. It's only on a few selected people though. Also, if they message me, I'll hear the sound, but no window will be shown so I have to guess which one it is. Any tips?
[20:45] <klandestino> but, what does ubuntu do when i click on the symbol to shutdown? does it use some script?
[20:45] <trojan_spike> MPX, use Emesene
[20:45] <SharkWipf> klandestino: /etc/acpi/something
[20:46] <SharkWipf> klandestino: no wait, that's the powerbutton
[20:46] <hind>  aeon-ltd: sudo chmod +XWR ??
[20:46] <SharkWipf> srry
[20:46] <klandestino> no problem
[20:46] <aloril> how to kill OpenCL program without rebooting whole machine (ATI)? (kill -9 doesn't work, neither killing X with -9, top/ps just show them dead, but continue to use CPU/GPU)
[20:46] <puddles> klandestino: keep checking the web i guess.  lots of users want this feature.  someone will do it if it bugs him enough :-)
[20:46] <MPX> trojan_spike, a tip that doesn't involve anything but using empathy.
[20:46] <biberao> hi
[20:46] <biberao> if i run the ubuntu livecd is it possible to connect to a wpa wireless right away?
[20:47] <Mawask2> hi, i want my ubuntu to server files through ftp to windows machines. i have installed proftpd in my ubuntu and my iptables are already letting udp and tcp pass on port 21. On the windows machine i open a browser and type ftp://192.168.0.34 (in behind a nat and 192.168.0.34 it's my ip) but it doesnt detect nothing on the windows machine. Does anyone know if I am missing something? thank u
[20:47] <aeon-ltd> hind: should do, yeah, read write execute, not all them need all those rights though
[20:47] <aloril> display is of course stuck, but I can ssh into machine
[20:47] <trojan_spike> MPX, thats the best tip i can give ,, empathy wasnt good for me
[20:47] <puddles> klandestino: http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/2010/07/using-acpicall-module-to-switch-onoff.html
[20:47] <dwileman_> trojan_spike, still won't let me download the patch automatically. Could I download it then use the "let me choose patch automatically" option?
[20:47] <Dcite> biberao: Yes it's possible, as long the wifi adapter is compatible
[20:48] <hind>  aeon-ltd: I did but no change
[20:48] <MPX> trojan_spike, it does what I want it to do :) Everybody has their own set of needs though :)
[20:48] <biberao> Dcite does it have a network manager on the livecd?
[20:48] <klandestino> puddles- don't work on my acer
[20:48] <Dcite> biberao: Yes it does.
[20:48] <puddles> klandestino: that's promising.  they ask you for a dump of your DSDT table
[20:48] <aeon-ltd> hind: post here what you typed
[20:48] <klandestino> yep
[20:48] <puddles> klandestino: with that table they might be able to figure out whether the bios has a method to turn it off
[20:48] <biberao> Dcite ipw2200bg
[20:48] <biberao> maybe?
[20:48] <trojan_spike> dwileman_, if u can find the patch,, it would just be a case of putting it into the directory
[20:49] <dwileman_> trojan_spike, brb
[20:49] <klandestino> but i need more info for them before send the dump
[20:49] <hind> aeon-ltd: sudo chmod +xwr /media/..
[20:49] <tobyjones8_> I need help please
[20:49] <Dcite> biberao: I can't answer since I don't know.. in my case, after the liveCD boots it'll say something about propietary drivers available
[20:49] <sumbuz> hi, how can I enter a passprase when mounting an encrypted drive seeing what I type?
[20:50] <Dcite> biberao: Check for additional drivers if the wifi isn't working. There is a few rare wifi cards that either don't have wpa, or isn't developed to that point.
[20:50] <tobyjones8_> sumbuz: now why would you do that?
[20:50] <puddles> unrelated, a couple of years ago i had to patch my dsdt table to get newer opterons to be supported with correct timings / throttling.  fun stuff.
[20:50] <Dcite> sumbuz: If you don't care for security, copy and paste your password into the password dialog
[20:50] <blackplague> trojan_spike, Alright I guess I'll try to find the right patch then. Is there any particular way I should go about doing that?
[20:51] <SharkWipf> klandestino: http://synapse.wordpress.com/2007/03/24/run-a-script-on-startup-shutdown-in-linux/
[20:51] <tobyjones8_> My screen has been randomly locking itself lately and it's getting to the point that I want to reboot into Windows. Help!
[20:51] <Administrador> Hi people! can i change the folder tree of the live CD!? i want to add packges to it and some more info, but there are too much folders, anyways, i want to change the casper folder to add another Squashfs. Any suggestions or a proper channel to ask this? Sorry for my bad English, Thanks
[20:51]  * Master-of-chocol say hello
[20:51] <aeon-ltd> hind: try sudo chmod +rwxX, i think but can't guarantee you need both Xes
[20:52] <trojan_spike> blackplague, either use the #playonlinx channel , or the ubuntu forum,, playonlinux , sims 3 patche as keywords
[20:52] <markodoom> hi
[20:52] <tobyjones8_> Help me?
[20:52] <tobyjones8_> O.o
[20:52] <trojan_spike> tobyjones8_, whats the problem bud?
[20:53] <markodoom> can anyone help me with installation problem?
[20:53] <Dcite> !ask | markodoom
[20:53] <SharkWipf> markodoom: what's the problem?
[20:53] <tobyjones8_> Well my screen has been locking itself for no reason, the machine hangs, turns my laptop's screen off and hangs again before allowing me to type my password.
[20:53] <sumbuz> Dcite: thx
[20:54] <klandestino> SharkWipf- Ahh thanks!  didn't know that! it was just what i was looking for! thanks a lot! going to test it now! i will be back to tell how it worked! thanks again SharkWipf!
[20:54] <hind> aeon-ltd: Itried it but still have the problem :(
[20:54] <SharkWipf> klandestino: good luck ^^
[20:54] <trojan_spike> tobyjones8_, screensaver kicks in and locks the screen,, preferences/screensaver.. disable lockscreen
[20:54] <klandestino> SharkWipf-- Thanks!
[20:54] <markodoom> after installing the latest version of ubuntu for netbooks 10.10 and I reboot it comes up with a kernal panic line and will not boot. netbook is left hanging with the caps lock flashing
[20:54] <puddles> tobyjones8_: sounds like power saving / hibernating
[20:55] <tobyjones8_> No I am always active when it happens so it can't be the screensaver, and I will look into power management
[20:55] <Durped> How can I change the position of the libnotify popups?
[20:55] <SharkWipf> markodoom: hmm, got linux running on the pc in the past?
[20:55] <Syburg> tobyjones8_: try to boot the kernel with the option acpi=off
[20:56] <SharkWipf> markodoom: try Syburg's suggestion as well ^^
[20:56]  * tobyjones8_ goes to system -> preferences -> power management
[20:56] <tobyjones8_> and Ok but how?
[20:56] <aeon-ltd> hind: try 'sudo chmod 777 /media/*'
[20:56] <aeon-ltd> hind: again no 100% guarantee
[20:57] <Syburg> tobyjones8_: are you german?
[20:57] <tobyjones8_> Nope
[20:57] <tobyjones8_> 100% British
[20:57] <Syburg> too bad found a good german side ;D
[20:57] <Syburg> site*
[20:57] <tobyjones8_> have to go now bye! sorry will be back tomorrow! :(
[20:57] <Durped> How can you change the position of the libnotify popups?
[20:57] <user12345> i just cannot enable listentcp... can you help me?
[20:57] <user12345>  1507 tty8     Ss+    0:06 /usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-3SCQyg/database -nolisten tcp
[20:58] <markodoom> no this is the first time i've tried to install
[20:58] <hind>  aeon-ltd: I tried hat too :/
[20:58] <aeon-ltd> hind: damn, nothing changes?
[20:58] <lamah> who are using nmcli??
[20:59] <puddles> user12345: /etc/gdm/gdm.schemas, DisallowTCP, falase
[20:59] <SharkWipf> markodoom: I once had an HP, and it only worked when I used the acpi=off flag. you could try that. do you know how?
[20:59] <puddles> user12345: false
[21:00] <lamah> how can i bring up the internet from cli with nmcli?
[21:00] <markodoom> no shark, do I have to add the line into the script?
[21:00] <`core> as a not linux guy, can someone help me with this? Notepad is to Write on Windows as _______ is to _________ on Ubuntu
[21:00] <user12345> puddles all right, sounds good, i'm going to restart X now with changed parameter...
[21:01] <navetz> Hi I need to send my hp envy in for repair but I have installed linux and need to remove it so I don't void the warrenty
[21:01] <Saik> `core: I'd assume that's mourepad and write again
[21:01] <Saik> mousepad*
[21:01] <aeon-ltd> `core: gedit/leafpad/mousepad is to nano/ed
[21:02] <dospod> gedit is nice
[21:02] <navetz> how can I move my linux partitions to ntfs partitions and password protect them when I send the laptop in to be serviced?
[21:02] <`core> hhm, okay, so we've got simple plain-text editors: mousepad, gedit, leafpad, and rich-text exitors: write, nano, ed?
[21:02] <`core> is that roughly correct?
[21:02] <SharkWipf> markodoom: wel, if you only want it once, reboot, and once you get in the black boot menu (grub), press 'e'. then add 'acpi=off' to the end of the line ending with 'quiet splash' or something like it. then boot, and see if it works
[21:03] <progre55> hi guys. I have this new (1 week) hp envy 14 laptop with ubuntu installed on it.. a couple of days ago "cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/*" was showing "design capacity: 4000 mAh, last full capacity: 4007 mAh, remaining capacity: 4007 mAh", but now it's shoing lastfull=3977 and remaining=3977 although it's fully charged. Does this mean the battery is getting worn out?
[21:03] <aeon-ltd> `core: no they can both handle txt and rtf iirc
[21:03] <markodoom> ok will try that
[21:03] <SharkWipf> markodoom: good luck
[21:03] <`core> "they?" i just listed like 7 editors :)
[21:03] <puddles> core: nano and ed are not "rich text editor"
[21:03] <ThisBeMyNick> Seems like screen is leaving beeps/bell-characters out, crippling irssi.
[21:04] <puddles> core: nano and ed are as much "rich text editor" as vi is a "web authoring application"
[21:04] <`core> ugh, all these choices on open platforms. there's no default, go-to plain-text editor, and no go-to, default rich-text editor (not doucment editor like vim or emacs)
[21:04] <`core> ?
[21:04] <franl> I inherited a 10.10 box with only server packages installed (no desktop stuff at all).  If I "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" will I get most everything I need to have a working desktop GUI?
[21:04] <ftg2> puddles: that it is ;)
[21:04] <aeon-ltd> `core: the go to is what you prefer thats the freedom
[21:05] <`core> well then im talking install bass
[21:05] <`core> er base
[21:05] <jamfade> franl: yes
[21:05] <puddles> core: your terminology is all mixed up :-)  "document editor" == vi?
[21:05] <franl> jamfade, thanks!
[21:05] <puddles> core: and emacs is an operating system
[21:05] <markodoom> shark, how do you save your changes in grub?
[21:05]  * ftg2 rofls.
[21:05] <aeon-ltd> puddles: wut? since when?
[21:06] <skelterjohn> question: in 10.4 I want to remove the "shutdown" item from the system menu for all users. how can I do this?
[21:06] <`core> thank-you for indulging me. what im asking is, for ubuntu, what is the plain-text text editor with the greatest install base?
[21:06] <SharkWipf> markodoom: permanently, or just one boot?
[21:06] <`core> e.g. number of machines its on
[21:06] <jamfade> franl: you may need to install it from tasksel. sudo tasksel
[21:06] <franl> jamfade, ok, I'll check that out.
[21:06] <SharkWipf> lol @ puddles
[21:06] <Saik> `core: it's mousepad
[21:06] <puddles> core: touch choice ... lots use "vi", lots use "emacs".  newbies use "nano"
[21:06] <aeon-ltd> `core: gedit and nano they're on every default ubuntu install
[21:06] <markodoom> either shark
[21:07] <`core> hmf, alright, well maybe ill have to chagne my thinking then
[21:07] <SlackRat> meh, not just newbies use nano
[21:07] <puddles> core: if you want pretty fonts and color, you might use GNOME's gedit or vim-gnome
[21:07] <SharkWipf> markodoom: just once = ctrl + x when editing
[21:07] <ftg2> SlackRat: well, its fair to say the newbies on aren't on vi
[21:07] <puddles> core: it's all about choices
[21:07] <`core> im trying to make an analogy to linux users about notepad and a slightly more sophisticated version of notepad with rich text editing
[21:07] <`core> maybe it's not possible tho
[21:07] <SharkWipf> markodoom: permanently: just a sec...
[21:07] <`core> too much freedom
[21:07] <`core> ;)
[21:08] <puddles> core: don't let steve jobs hear that!
[21:08] <SlackRat> not really............nano / pico are just more straightforward for editing scripts..........the first one I learned as a newb was vi
[21:08] <aeon-ltd> puddles: theres an app for that :)
[21:08] <hind>  aeon-ltd: I tried R+Click and changed permissions but it doesn't apply ,my ubuntu version is 10.10
[21:08] <markodoom> well the acpi=off didn't work either, still getting the same problem line of......." Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[21:08] <aeon-ltd> hind: was this with a sudo elevated nautilus?
[21:09] <puddles> markodoom: that doesn't sound acpi related
[21:09] <jamfade> eth0 goes into promiscuous mode, ifconfig eth0 -promisc does nothing. I'm a bit worried about this. Any help appreciated.
[21:09] <ftg2> SlackRat: thats a newbie opinion, no offense.
[21:09] <SharkWipf> markodoom: oh, unable to mount rootfs
[21:09] <puddles> markofdoom: that sounds like it can't figure out the / partition.  do you have external usb drive plugged in?
[21:09] <hind>  aeon-ltd: ok.,let me try with sudo nautilus
[21:09] <SlackRat> neah, thats a newbie statement actually............
[21:09] <SlackRat> no offense..........
[21:09] <markodoom> no, nothing pluged in at the mo
[21:10] <lock> lol...geek wars
[21:10] <ftg2> SlackRat: yes. saying nano is more straightforward than vi. definitely an opinion based on how much you use both editors
[21:10] <aeon-ltd> !war
[21:10] <SharkWipf> markodoom: how does your /etc/fstab look?
[21:10] <puddles> slackrat: if you picked nano over vi/emacs, you haven't been a heavy user of text editing :-)
[21:10] <aeon-ltd> hmm not like #archlinux
[21:10] <puddles> slackrat: no offense
[21:10] <SharkWipf> markodoom: is it set up like /dev/* or like UUID=*?
[21:10] <SlackRat> if I'm not dropped into a shell situation where all I can use is vi? Its quite simple and efficient to use pico/nano...........but yeah, it does depend on how you use and how much............thats not a newb versus hacker argument.........its a statement about what you use your boxen for
[21:11] <aeon-ltd> puddles: its a huge strain to press i to start typing :)
[21:11] <SharkWipf> markodoom: (do you have a way to check it ^^)
[21:11] <puddles> aeon-ltd: are you kidding me?  i wore out the ESC legend on my keycap
[21:11] <markodoom> hmmmm
[21:12] <SlackRat> its  all a matter of what you need them for and how much you need them......I don't code generally, so ..........
[21:12] <aeon-ltd> puddles: is : gone too?
[21:12] <markodoom> how to i uninstall and start again from fresh?
[21:12] <puddles> aeon-ltd: the left shift key is a little creaky
[21:12] <SlackRat> without distinctions like that, its just another holy war
[21:12] <aeon-ltd> markodoom: you don't just write over with gparted and install
[21:13] <hind>  aeon-ltd: still, not working, the drop-down list of permission doesn't apply when I select "Read and Write",it automatically changes back
[21:13] <SharkWipf> markodoom: yeah, what aeon-ltd said
[21:13] <puddles> markodoom: wasn't this a fresh install?
[21:13] <aeon-ltd> markodoom: err comma after 'don't', if it gave the wrong context impression
[21:13] <lock> hind: you need to change permissions with 'sudo chmod 777 (or whichever permission you prefer) <filename>
[21:14] <markodoom> now I have another idea, on this samsung n220 netbook hyperspace is installed which is a cut down version of linux, would that be interfering with the installation ubuntu?
[21:14] <puddles> markodoom: if it can't find / after fresh install, chances are it'll do the same again until you find out why
[21:14] <lock> hind: you need to change permissions with 'sudo chmod 777 (or whichever permission you prefer) <filename>'
[21:14] <lock> sorry for the double post
[21:14] <aeon-ltd> mehehehe hehe hehe heh heh heh heh
[21:15] <trojan_spike> markodoom, you installing the ubuntu for netbooks,, or a differ 1?
[21:15] <markodoom> for netbooks trojan
[21:15] <Dcite> trojan_spike: Aren't they all th same till they get to X?
[21:15] <trojan_spike> what error message are u getting?
[21:15] <hind> aeon-ltd: lock: I tried "sudo chmod 777" ,"sudo chmod +xwrX" and wizard but still have the problem
[21:15] <andares> hey guys, I'm trying to install ubuntu 10.10 from my USB drive, but I can't get it to work.
[21:16] <trojan_spike> Dcite, i wouldnt think so
[21:16] <ElPasmo> Hi all, I can't boot my ubuntu because I activate the graphics controllers of my netbook and there is a bug with them. I found a solution but I don't understand what I have to do because I'm pretty new with all of this. The solution is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/633596/comments/7
[21:16] <markodoom> me too andares
[21:16] <lock> hind: did you put the filename at the end of the command? :)
[21:16] <david506> I have to return a hard disk to Western Digital that is defective, the hard drive contains sensitive information. What would be the appropriate measures to wipe the disk? cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdc ( where sdc is the device ? )
[21:16] <andares> can anyone help me out? I've tried doing dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdc but it didn't work.
[21:16] <sloopy> hi
[21:16] <andares> I also tried unetbootin but it failed.
[21:16] <hind> lock: yes of-course
[21:16] <lock> hind: in that case you may not be an authorized user for such tasks maybe?
[21:17] <skelterjohn> question: in 10.4 I want to remove the "shutdown" item from the system menu for all users. how can I do this?
[21:17] <hind> lock: even if i'm not authorized, I do it with "sudo"
[21:17] <Guest5172> just go to evrything new!!!
[21:17] <Guest5172> quit
[21:17] <lock> hmmm
[21:17] <Guest5172> 'quit
[21:18] <lock> hind: i mean, you may not be an authorized sudoer
[21:18] <spanesar> hey
[21:18] <hind> lock: what do you think may i try to do?
[21:18] <spanesar> hey blackplague
[21:18] <spanesar> guys what's u[
[21:19] <spanesar> im testing something for my compsci clas
[21:19] <spanesar> what are you guys doing
[21:19] <spanesar> and up to
[21:19] <spanesar> hello
[21:19] <FloodBot3> spanesar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <spanesar> ok
[21:19] <lock> hind: do you get any sort of error msg when you attempt to change the permissions?
[21:19] <blackplague1347> do I know you spanesar ?
[21:19] <SlackRat> lock , not if it works
[21:19] <david506> ok, I found the shred -vz /dev/MYDEVICE command, it looks good. It also suggests "-n 5", but my data is sensitive, but not enough to do 5 writes
[21:19] <spanesar> im doing a project for my compsci class and one person turned in this project, im testing the IRC client
[21:19] <spanesar> and decided to connect to ubuntu
[21:20] <blackplague1347> hey trojan_spike, I got the Sims 3 to run, but all I get is a black screen, music, and a pointer after the initial intro video. Any idea what that's about?
[21:20] <spanesar> lulz
[21:20] <hind> lock: in teminal, I don't get errors, but with wizard ,it doesn't apply,it just changes back
[21:20] <spanesar> ij
[21:20] <spanesar> ok
[21:20] <spanesar> bye guys
[21:20] <spanesar> cyalater
[21:20] <lock> ok thats wierd
[21:20] <FloodBot3> spanesar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:20] <spanesar> bye
[21:20] <spanesar> bye
[21:20] <blackplague1347> spanesar: Oh okay. Well, this is probably the place to be. Other IRC channels have less friendly users.
[21:20] <spanesar> thanks
[21:20] <spanesar> bye
[21:20] <blackplague1347> At least in my experience.
[21:20] <spanesar> sa
[21:20] <spanesar> sd
[21:20] <spanesar> s
[21:20] <FloodBot3> spanesar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:20] <spanesar> dfs
[21:20] <spanesar> s
[21:20] <spanesar> dgh
[21:20] <Dcite> ...
[21:21] <Dcite> Such an odd person?
[21:21] <wsudel> ./join #cpp
[21:21] <blackplague1347> Honestly.
[21:21] <SharkWipf> Ok, another question. my mom's pc with vista (finally) crashed, and now we're making backups through Ubuntu (ntfs to ntfs). Unfortunately, nautilus keeps closing all open windows (unmounting?) after some time, even in the middle of an copying operation. anyone know how to solve this?
[21:22] <lock> hind: are you the owner of the file?
[21:22] <david506> SharkWipf, what does dmesg say ?
[21:22] <trojan_spike> blackplague1347, it says on playonlinux,, to run the game from 'The Sims 3', not 'The Sims 3 Launcher.. i guess the patch had a launcher
[21:22] <Dcite> SharkWipf: Sounds more like nautilus crashing?
[21:22] <lock> hind: you may try to chown the file to your username and see if that makes a difference
[21:22] <hind>  lock: yes, I see it too, in the properties of the file
[21:22] <Dcite> SharkWipf: There is always the command line "cp" most reliable command to copy files ^_^
[21:23] <DJJeff> ubuntu 10.10 where are the monitor settings saved as I dont have a xorg.conf file?
[21:23] <blackplague1347> trojan_spike: lol that one gets me a runtime error.
[21:24] <SharkWipf> Dcite: unfortunately, I don't have a dmesg of the times it happens, since I'm not at home while my mom is making backups. also, mom + cli is not a good combination
[21:24] <DJJeff> 1,623 people in here
[21:24] <DJJeff> someone hasta know
[21:24] <Syburg> DJJeff: System -> Screens?
[21:24] <SharkWipf> sorry, also @ david506
[21:24] <Marko-M> Hi
[21:25] <DJJeff> Syburg: is that a menu or a file ?
[21:25] <david506> SharkWipf, could you not get ssh access? You might save yourself a lot of trouble.
[21:25] <Syburg> DJJeff: menu
[21:25] <Syburg> sorry is was to fast
[21:25] <DJJeff> im looking for the file itself
[21:25] <jamfade> eth0 goes into promiscuous mode, ifconfig eth0 -promisc does nothing. I'm a bit worried about this. What could be causing it?
[21:25] <DJJeff> *sigh*
[21:26] <Syburg> DJJeff: why?
[21:26] <DJJeff> to see what drivers are installed and to mess with the settings maybe?
[21:26] <ElPasmo> Hi all, I can't boot my ubuntu because I activate the graphics controllers of my netbook and there is a bug with them. I found a solution but I don't understand what I have to do because I'm pretty new with all of this. The solution is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/633596/comments/7 May someone explain to me what I have to do on reboot?
[21:26] <SharkWipf> david506: yes, atm I can, but I couldn't when it happened. also, my mom wants to check every single file herself, so I can't do it for her...
[21:26] <DJJeff> plus I have SSH access to the machine and not physical
[21:27] <nimbiotics> hello all. does anyone know why is it that I cannot play card games (spades) in yahoo using ubuntu? TIA!
[21:27] <DJJeff> playing youtube videos full screen are lagging the gfx I think the drivers are lame maybe
[21:27] <david506> SharkWipf, maybe someone else can suggest something
[21:27] <DJJeff> when I was running XP on the machine they were fine
[21:27] <lock> hind: i dont know what else to tell u besides format reinstall :)
[21:27] <SharkWipf> DJJeff: I don't know the current settings, but AFAIK you can still make an xorg.conf yourself with whatever you need
[21:28] <lock> hind: and even that may not work if you backup the file with current permission set up
[21:28] <SharkWipf> david506: well, that's why I'm here
[21:28] <Dcite> SharkWipf: I have an odd way of checking files.. use cp to copy all the files to the destinatination first, then I try to check all the files in sequence after that.. either with checksums or by hand..
[21:28] <tehnef> SharkWipf: use cp from the command line
[21:28] <amonkey> how can i get a command line program which is expecting a filename as input to use the data from a pipe command? i'm trying to sort a comma seperated list generated by another command.
[21:28] <Syburg> DJJeff: an easy but "lame" solution would be to install vnc, also you could use modprobe -l | grep "nvidia" to find out wich driver is loaded
[21:28] <david506> SharkWipf, use rsync ?
[21:28] <ZiRezal> hello
[21:28] <Dcite> david506: For files going to the same system?
[21:29] <david506> if you are copying, sure why not? It checks the hashes and everything for you.
[21:29] <hind>  lock: thank you anyway
[21:29] <SharkWipf> Dcite tehnef this isn't about the file integrety, but about nautilus/ntfs-3g crashing :)
[21:30] <SharkWipf> david506: I don't know rsync, but we don't need all files, only personal files
[21:31] <Annod3> hey everyone. When I tried to install ubuntu 10.10 the pixels on my screen come all messed up. I can still see the windows from my Windows 7 Install. My graphics card is nvidia 240
[21:31] <john38> Can somebody help me with PlayonLinux problem?
[21:31] <DJJeff> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[21:31] <tehnef> SharkWipf: could be a number of things. are you mounting rw or ro? if rw, try ro. maybe the disk has bad sectors?
[21:32] <DJJeff> kernel/drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.ko
[21:32] <DJJeff> ?
[21:32] <SharkWipf> tehnef: well, ro would be pretty hard to backup to, no? ;)
[21:32] <ftg2> SharkWipf: lol. was about to say. that kind of negates the purpose
[21:33] <SharkWipf> tehnef: also, both disks close during the crashes
[21:33] <SharkWipf> tehnef: at the same time
[21:33] <Syburg> DJJeff: okay so no nvidia configuration center
[21:33] <ftg2> SharkWipf: i dunno. i think i would probably copy using cp, but you already explained why that won't work :\
[21:33] <DJJeff> Syburg: http://pastebin.com/uhY50zBE
[21:34] <lock> hind: what kind of file is it if you dont mind me asking
[21:34] <john38> Can somebody help me with PlayonLinux problem?
[21:34] <SharkWipf> ftg2: yeah, unfortunately...
[21:34] <Syburg> can you post ls /etc/X11/?
[21:35] <DJJeff> sure http://pastebin.com/iZUKbK1S
[21:35] <nhck> empathy&icq this might be a fix: in terminal type: mc-tool update  bool:use-clientlogin=true
[21:35] <eddie0110> Hi. i installed unr my netbook doesn't support the resolution. I plugged into another monitor, and oddly when i mouseover anything on the sidebar, the screen flickers off and on
[21:36] <eddie0110> also I cannot read anything. it looks like blocks
[21:36] <amonkey> can anybody help me sort a comma seperated list (one line) on the command line (bash)? i tried using sort but thats not working
[21:36] <SharkWipf> eddie0110: got the right drivers?
[21:37] <eddie0110> SharkWipf. I hope so. not sure how i could check, or even select other drivers when setting up
[21:37] <ubuntu> how to edit grub boot loader?
[21:37] <SlackRat> great question thanks to grub 2
[21:38] <Syburg> DJJeff: gimme a minute pls
[21:38] <SlackRat> life was so much simpler under grub 1..........   :-P
[21:38] <ubuntu> grub
[21:38] <hind> lock: aeon-ltd:  I face the problem in two cases: the 1st is a pdf file that works only when moving to the home, the 2nd is the folder of eclipse-java IDE- ,when trying to launch eclipse it it gives an error "can't find the autorun program", but whenI move it to home it works
[21:38] <SlackRat> /etc/grub/default  :)but don't quote me on that
[21:38] <SharkWipf> eddie0110: well, first you could look under System>administration>additional drivers
[21:38] <SlackRat> wait, you're on grub one?
[21:39] <ElPasmo> Hi all, I can't boot my ubuntu because I activate the graphics controllers of my netbook and there is a bug with them. I found a solution but I don't understand what I have to do because I'm pretty new with all of this. The solution is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/633596/comments/7 How can I boot using the nomodeset option into a command line and then remove radeon.ko from the modules tree?
[21:39] <SlackRat> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:39] <Syburg> DJJeff: do you speak german?
[21:39] <SlackRat> elpasmo, you on a toshiba?
[21:39] <Mirko[CHIP]> ciao ragazzi
[21:40] <ElPasmo> SlackRat:, no. I'm on a HP touchsmart tm2
[21:40] <vu1kan> when i pass <users>, it returns my username twice-is this normal?
[21:40] <SlackRat> ah.............trying to fix my friends lucid install with similar problems..........maybe a driver upgrade?
[21:40] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: in the black boot screen (grub), press 'e', and put nomodeset after 'quiet splash', and press ctrl + x
[21:40] <pipeep> hey, does anyone know if wubi will let you suspend? I know it doesn't let you hibernate
[21:40] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: for single boot, that is
[21:40] <SlackRat> the plot thickens
[21:41] <puddles> elpasmo: boot, hold down left shift key, select the boot target, press "e" (for edit), type in nomodeset at the end of the "kernel" line, press control-x to boot i think
[21:41] <DJJeff> Syburg: nope sorry
[21:41] <ElPasmo> SlackRat: I can't boot ubuntu so can't upgrade anything
[21:41] <eddie0110> SharpWipf ok, how to I get out of unity then, so I can access system and such
[21:41] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: puddles and after that, how can I remove radeon.ko from the modules tree?
[21:41] <puddles> elpasmo: dpkg --purge <name of the xorg driver>
[21:42] <Syburg> DJJeff: http://who-t.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-configuration-world-order.html
[21:42] <puddles> elpasmo: dpkg --get-selections | grep xorg | grep driver, look for the radeon ones and remove those?  maybe remove the fglrx while you're at it too?
[21:42] <Syburg> looks like, thanks to udev, xorg.conf is not the main point for the configuration of the xserver
[21:42] <skelterjohn> anyone here know anything about getting wireless working? I have physically installed a gigabyte GN-WP-01GS and I'm unsure how to progress
[21:42] <SlackRat> one, have you tried a live rescue mode and two, can you get in via another live distro at all....? Can you boot anything atm?
[21:42] <SharkWipf> eddie0110:  Unity? as in VMware? or am I missing something?
[21:42] <pipeep> to repeat: hey, does anyone know if wubi will let you suspend? I know it doesn't let you hibernate
[21:42] <eddie0110> Or whatever this is. With the sidebar, and such
[21:43] <john38> Anybody here use PlayOnLinux?
[21:43] <ElPasmo> puddles: what's fglrx?
[21:44] <SharkWipf> eddie0110: oh, wait, netbook remix right?
[21:44] <eddie0110> all i know is I have a sidebar, and the ubuntu logo top left. If i click the icon, I get about 8 other icons, one with the globe, one with a cd, one with videos
[21:44] <eddie0110> correct
[21:44] <eddie0110> netbook remix
[21:44] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: puddles I'll reboot and try right now, I let you know if it worked :) thanks!
[21:45] <hind> lock: aeon-ltd: http://picasaweb.google.com/habdolkhaleq/13November2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCPfNkujKzLOVBw#5539139655109920178
[21:45] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: good luck
[21:45] <SharkWipf> eddie0110: hmm, never used it... I'm afraid I can't help you on that...
[21:45] <resno> im trying to connect to wifi using cli. i am entering a key s:key but i get "set encode" (8b2a) error
[21:45] <john38> Anybody here use PlayOnLinux?
[21:47] <ubuntu> how to find out what grub i have ie 1 or 2
[21:47] <cheezey> what file tells ubuntu to auto login?
[21:47] <lexvegas> Hey all, I have 10.04.1LTS installed, and the boot screen wont show up, all is see is a black screen with a flashing dash. I found out that xsplash wasn't installed, but installing it didn't fix the problem. Any ideas?
[21:47] <ninjai> is there a way to make it so i dont have to spend 15 minutes moving my mouse 1/1000th of a mm back and forth to scale a bloody window?
[21:47] <ninjai> is so sensitive
[21:48] <llutz> ubuntu: apt-cache policy grub-common
[21:48] <Syburg> ubuntu grub-install -v
[21:48] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: i believe 10.04 uses pharmond ore something like that
[21:48] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, thanks Ill see what I can find.
[21:48] <resno> im trying to connect to wifi using cli. i am entering a key s:key but i get "set encode" (8b2a) error
[21:49] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: and it also fails on my laptop...
[21:49] <Syburg> DJJeff: are you still there? - anyway, i'm sorry i have to go now, but i bet someone else is going on to help you!
[21:49] <Syburg> bye all
[21:49] <ravigehlot> I have a minor problem. After doing a successful upgrade from 10.4 over to 10.10, GRUB doesn't boot "automatically". It hangs in there till I choose an option and hit enter. I have already tried to change the setting on /etc/default/grub and run grub-update but doesn't seem to be working.
[21:49] <amalloy> my ubuntu server has started using the wrong timezone. i know you can use # date --set "whatever" to set the date, but i don't think that's permanent. i've looked around in /etc/init.d and /var/run, but i don't see anywhere that's setting the date. anyone know?
[21:50] <ubuntu> .97   lol
[21:50] <ectospasm> amalloy: if it's the wrong timezone you need to set /etc/localtime to your timezone.  Look in /usr/share/zoneinfo
[21:50] <SharkWipf> ubuntu: that's 2 :)
[21:51] <llutz> amalloy: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[21:51] <amalloy> aha, thanks both
[21:51] <llutz> ubuntu: 0.97 = grub 1
[21:52] <ubuntu> i thiught so to
[21:52] <llutz> ubuntu: grub2 ~ 1.98somewhat
[21:52] <llutz> !info grub-common
[21:52] <SharkWipf> ubuntu: oh, oops
[21:52] <ubuntu> i get diff results
[21:52] <SlackRat> ravi, have you checked the release notes and the bug reports? Just a guess.........
[21:52] <amalloy> llutz: perfect. all set
[21:52] <ubuntu> i get .97 for grub-install -v
[21:53] <ravigehlot> SlackRat: where
[21:53] <SlackRat> ubuntu homepage or the release notes in the last release, maybe on the install cd
[21:53] <SlackRat> or when all else fails , google...........
[21:53] <ubuntu> and 1.96+20080724-12ubuntu2.1 for   apt-cache policy grub-common
[21:54] <SlackRat> so you don't try and solve a problem being solved as we speak.............
[21:55] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: puddles it didn't work, I booted, got into the black screen of grubm pressed 'e', appended quiet splash and nomodeset at the end and again... black screen...
[21:55] <puddles> elpasmo: "nomodeset 1"
[21:55] <dewman> is there a syslog gui program that is in the repos?
[21:55] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: what do your logs say?
[21:55] <puddles> elpasmo: you don't want framebuffer graphics and you don't want to start X (runlevel = 1)
[21:56] <lock> hind: why not just run it from home then
[21:56] <SharkWipf> puddles ElPasmo: oh, that's right
[21:56] <ElPasmo> puddles ok I'll try now... nomodeset 1
[21:56] <vu1kan> dewman: system> admin >log file viewer?
[21:56] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: what logs? how do i access them?
[21:56] <kikko> ciao
[21:56] <puddles> bbl, training in two minutes
[21:57] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: try booting in recovery mode, and then use the command line to read them
[21:57] <discorpia> is there any way to make nautilus sort on literal file/directory name? default seems to be to count "_X" the same as "X"
[21:57] <ElPasmo> puddles ok thanks a lot for the help
[21:57] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: just a sec, i'll look it up
[21:57] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: in recovery mode I get black screen again
[21:57] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: are you using a HP?
[21:57] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: yes
[21:58] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: dv7 by any chance?
[21:58] <dewman> vu1kan, can i use that for syslog messages from my router?
[21:58] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: no, touchsmart tm2
[21:58] <hind> lock:  It's not comfortable at all, to move such similar cases to home every time I wanna run :(
[21:58] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: this is the link I found: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugc633596/comments/7
[21:59] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: I'll try to reboot and write quiet splash and nomodeset 1 this time, I'll be back soon
[21:59] <lock> hind: what about the permissions for the whole folder?
[21:59] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: oh, well, my dv7 had the same problem. nomodeset 1 did work to some height, but disables most of the cool stuff
[21:59] <SharkWipf> dang, too late
[21:59] <dana_> exit
[21:59] <ubuntu> dual boot system does not show dual boot screen.....grub loader?
[21:59] <vu1kan> dewman: it's just a viewer for /var/log/, if your router puts it log there, then yes
[21:59] <brontoeee> SharkWipf, is that some bios setting or what?
[22:00] <hind> lock:  I tried that with wizard
[22:00] <SharkWipf> brontoeee: hmm, nomodeset you mean?
[22:00] <JohnN> Hi,, I'm trying to run a win exe thru wine but it said the executable flag isn't set... but it won't let me set the flag... it just clears the checkmark when I try
[22:00] <brontoeee> SharkWipf, yes
[22:02] <SharkWipf> brontoeee: no, it's an option you pass to the kernel (ubuntu) so it will/wont do some stuff. nomodeset will disable lots of the graphical features, leaving you with the built in BIOS video drivers
[22:02] <SharkWipf> brontoeee: or something like that ^^
[22:02] <brontoeee> SharkWipf, ok, thanks, silly question really
[22:03] <resno> does anyone know about iwconfig? i am having a problem entering the tkip passphrase
[22:03] <brontoeee> SharkWipf, i'am still trying to figure out why would 10.10 logout after certain amount of time (not being idle)
[22:03] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: no joy :(
[22:03] <SharkWipf> brontoeee: you're welcome. silly is cool. btw, you can also disable cpu cores this way ^^
[22:03] <axisys> anyone know of a tool that diff between the contents two dirs recursively ?
[22:03] <brontoeee> the gnome session i mean
[22:04] <puddles> brontoeee: it shouldn't do that, mine doesn't
[22:04] <axisys> i knew of one named `mend' or something.. i forgot.. it is written in python, but i forgot the name
[22:04] <brontoeee> puddles, can you imagine any reasons?
[22:04] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, ElPasmo ,I tried the nomodset trick, and nothing so far
[22:04] <puddles> axisys: diff -Naur
[22:04] <JohnN> christ... fs is set to read only... doh!
[22:04] <ElPasmo> lexvegas: nomodset or nomodeset?
[22:04] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: hmm, try putting acpi=off as well. it MAY help...
[22:04]  * JohnN slinks  off...
[22:04] <puddles> nomodEset
[22:04] <axisys> puddles: let me try that
[22:05] <puddles> axisys: diff -Naur a/ b/ > foo.diff
[22:05] <lexvegas> ElPasmo, modset=1
[22:05] <Goku`> yeah nice to see 10.10 working so well out of the box!
[22:05] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: I ended up buying a new laptop
[22:05] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: puddles, ok so I have to add quiet splash nomodeset 1 and acpi=off ?
[22:05] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: it's nomodeset=1
[22:05] <puddles> elpasmo: sure
[22:05] <axisys> puddles: actually i am looking for something like tkdiff.. i used it .. gui based and very easy see the diff.. forgot the name
[22:05] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: puddles nomodeset=1 or nomodeset 1? :P
[22:06] <goltoof> puddles, what does that do?  curious..
[22:06] <SharkWipf> nomodeset=1 I believe
[22:06] <puddles> elpasmo: two different things.  "nomodeset" = no kernel modesetting, 1 = runlevel 1 (single-user)
[22:06] <puddles> i don't know where =1 comes from :-)
[22:06] <puddles> something someone randomly said
[22:06] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: puddles I'll try both ways... see you soon :)
[22:07] <SharkWipf> puddles: why do you know so much? ;)
[22:07] <axisys> found it!
[22:07] <axisys> it is called `meld' .. not `mend'
[22:07] <puddles> sharkwipf: i live and breathe linux
[22:07] <puddles> sharkwipf: been doing it since '99 :-)
[22:08] <puddles> earlier i think, maybe 97
[22:08] <SharkWipf> puddles: ah, explains a lot ^^
[22:08] <SharkWipf> puddles: I will too, as soon as I won't be needing windoze for school, which is totally windows oriented...
[22:08] <SharkWipf> puddles: C# and stuff
[22:09] <lock> hind: maybe try reinstalling eclipse?
[22:09] <puddles> sharkwipf: when you ahve a minute and feel naughty, grab a screenshot of your linux desktop, make it same resolution as the windows workstation, log in to windows and make that the default background :-)
[22:09] <lock> hind: *uninstalling then reinstalling
[22:09] <puddles> sharkwipf: helps if you have domain admin priv
[22:09] <lock> hind: other than that im done lol
[22:10] <SharkWipf> puddles: haha, good idea ^^
[22:10] <robs2> Hello everyone
[22:10] <SharkWipf> puddles: oh, that's right, i still planned on arpspoofing/switching the network printers on the other ends of the school ^^
[22:11] <johnlocke> How do I get ubuntu to send audio out from both hdmi and 3.5 mm?
[22:11] <robs2> Can someone please answer a question regarding the alien command?
[22:11] <brontoeee> !alien
[22:11] <lock> SharkWipf: i hate how schools only support windows...get this; im taking a class on linux+ cert and the course materials are only available in a windows environment.  thats rich aint it!
[22:11] <SlackRat> what alien question?
[22:12] <SlackRat> ya don't need to ask, to ask a question.........btw    :)
[22:12] <SharkWipf> lock: hmm, that's even worse than our school xD
[22:12] <hind> lock: i tried many versions, I even downloaded new fresh, it doesn't need install too, just launching the executable file
[22:12] <robs2> thanks just trying to be polite
[22:12] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: puddles tried quiet splash nomodeset 1 (and nomodeset=1) and acpi=off with no joy :(
[22:12] <puddles> elpasmo: meaning what?
[22:13] <puddles> elpasmo: does the framebuffer console still come up?  or is the console in text mode?
[22:13] <ElPasmo> puddles black screen when pressing crtl+x
[22:13] <lock> SharkWipf: yea its pretty bad...i even called the company that owns the software to ask if they have ANY sort of linux support and they were like...uhhh if you can run microsoft silverlight then you can use our web based tools!  freakin MS SILVERLIGHT!
[22:13] <ElPasmo> puddles: what's framebuffer console?
[22:13] <puddles> elpasmo: really ...
[22:13] <puddles> elpasmo: wait please, or have someone else help for a while
[22:13] <lock> SharkWipf: of course i tried moonlight but it doesnt work...gotta have silverlight :|
[22:13] <ElPasmo> puddles: if I try in recovery mode I have some text scrolling down the screen with boot steps before black screen
[22:14] <robs2> Recently, I converted,  or attempted to conver an rpm package to debian by using alien.  However,  the resulting debian files did not contain a  .deb  extension.  And I cannot get the newly converted package to install.  Any ideas from anyone would be helpful.  thanks
[22:14] <ElPasmo> puddles: I'll wait :)
[22:14] <SharkWipf> lock: I feel your pain...
[22:14] <bombshell> Hello
[22:14] <dsecjohn> hi
[22:15] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: I managed to get a refund for my laptop since it was HP's fault. I was in my right because I told it within 2 months or so
[22:15] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, nomodset 1 puts you in single user mode, no fun, and modest=1 does not really work
[22:15] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: that's not an option :(
[22:16] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: where did you get modest=1 from them?^^
[22:16] <lexvegas> yes, and from a website about the same problem i am having
[22:16] <moho> i got i got go Pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp leaving the room
[22:17] <kaminari> hello, I've been tring to find some good doc and/or examples of kernel modules past 30 minutes and found only garbage, maybe someone know a good website?
[22:17] <lock> hind: I would say backup crucial files, format reinstall
[22:17] <Dark_Rinos> Hello does anyone know apache2 and mod rewrite?
[22:17] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: sorry, did you have the same problem as ElPasmo? I'm getting confused of all the scrolling names and stuff ^^
[22:17] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, and modset was supposed to be nomodset. sorry, long day
[22:17] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, yes
[22:17] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: also HP? ^^
[22:17] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, no, dell
[22:17] <ninado> i hve an hardware of amd turion64 which debian os will best fit for gnome development/
[22:17] <ninado> ?
[22:18] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: hmm, ok...
[22:18] <hind> lock:  thanks a lot
[22:18] <bombshell> Hello
[22:18] <kaminari> I need to write char device with unlimited buffer support but I can't find anything useful
[22:18] <SharkWipf> lexvegas, ElPasmo: can you run any other distro, like Debian?
[22:18] <ElPasmo> lexvegas: what did you try so far?
[22:18] <bombshell> I believe there's a command that I can excute in the terminal that will launch my default browser?
[22:18] <SharkWipf> lexvegas, ElPasmo: you can try it out with Unetbootin
[22:19] <bombshell> I'm not sure what that command is, does anyone might know?
[22:19] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, i actually just tried debian the other day, and uspalsh worked there
[22:19] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: I had ubuntu running pretty well just until I activated the graphics privative controllers
[22:19] <lexvegas> ElPasmo, i tried modset=1, nomodset=1 nomodset 1
[22:19] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: oh, wait, you were the one with the bootsplash problem...
[22:19] <ninado> 10.10 is cool so far for me
[22:19] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: but I want to explore any other solution before reinstalling the OS
[22:20] <FuzzyFox0> hey alll, quick Q, how do I change the gdm theme in v10.10
[22:20] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, yeah, isnt that what ElPasmo has too?
[22:20] <robs2> Recently, I converted,  or attempted to conver an rpm package to debian by using alien.  However,  the resulting debian files did not contain a  .deb  extension.  And I cannot get the newly converted package to install.  Any ideas from anyone would be helpful.  thanks
[22:20] <Goku`> bombshell, command is "nautilus &"
[22:20] <moho> did anyone watch jerry springer today ?
[22:20] <ElPasmo> lexvegas: this is my problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/633596
[22:20] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: did you, by any chance, enable sshd?
[22:20] <bombshell> Goku`: When I saw browser, I mean WWW Browser, such as FFx or Chroium
[22:20] <digitalstimulus> any ideas why sometimes when my mdadm raid fileserver boots up, I am dumped to busy box terminal in initramfs with a "device or resource busy" when trying to mount root.  I have been having the problem for several ubuntu versions and it is only intermittent
[22:21] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: no, I don't even know how to enable it
[22:21] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: btw, the correct name was plymouth
[22:21] <bombshell> Goku`: In this script I have, I want it to lauch the default browser -- WHich time to time I might change
[22:21] <Goku`> moho, no but i installed a conveyor belt onto an extreemly large rock crusher and aligned it using a front end loader
[22:21] <lock> hind: lol, sorry couldnt just sprinkle some pixie dust on it and make it work but i got nothin else
[22:21] <ninado> do we have a version of fcp in linux
[22:21] <digitalstimulus> i have read some about mdadm and initramfs, but haven't uncovered anything concrete yet
[22:21] <YiamiYo> hello...i just bought 2 new hdds and set up a raid 0 through bios...i installed 10.10 64-bit, but i still can see only ubuntu on my old hdd..any help?
[22:21] <ninado> ?
[22:21] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: dang... hmm, can you boot of the livecd?
[22:21] <lexvegas> ElPasmo, that would explain why i was confused, it seems suggested fixes are the same for our problems
[22:22] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, thanks, ill look into that too
[22:22] <noric> Having trouble with default ec2 sources, as packaged by canonical. Default src is us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com, some standard things failed to install
[22:22] <Goku`> bombshell,  dillo &?
[22:22] <noric> wondering what I should change it to
[22:22] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: yours still boots, right?
[22:22] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: don't have any livecd around now, maybe I can make a liveusb of ubuntu in windows? is that possible?
[22:22] <bombshell> Goku`: What is dillo?
[22:22] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, yeah
[22:22] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: yes, it's very possible, try Unetbootin
[22:23] <YiamiYo> anyone tried ubuntu on raid 0 before?
[22:23] <FuzzyFox0> anyone?
[22:23] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and on start a get the msg modprob fatal error could not load lib/modules/2.6.35-22 anyone know why?
[22:23] <ElPasmo> ok, ill start downloading the ubuntu netbook edition
[22:23] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: and you didn't have a bootsplash at all, or do you have an ugly one?
[22:23] <g_> what's the version of ubuntu with lxde called?
[22:23] <SlackRat> lubuntu, i think
[22:23] <Mist3r_Y0u> Hell
[22:23] <Mist3r_Y0u> hello
[22:23] <Goku`> bombshell, a www browser
[22:24] <g_> thanks SlackRat
[22:24] <lexvegas> shark, none, except for a .5 sec or so flash of it right before GDM starts, or at least the GDM background shows up
[22:24] <Goku`> bombshell, i can just type "firefox &" from my terminal and firefox loads right up
[22:24] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: unetbootin does not make it persistent, I believe, so you can't save on your usb intallation, but that's not a problem now
[22:24] <Mist3r_Y0u> I want to Format my PC but i cant
[22:24] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, none, except for a .5 sec or so flash of it right before GDM starts, or at least the GDM background shows up
[22:24] <Mist3r_Y0u> !!!
[22:25] <lexvegas> Mist3r_Y0u, have you tried the partition editor on the live CD?
[22:25] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: if I can copy some files out of my home directory to the windows partition its ok for me
[22:25] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: hmm, ok, strange
[22:25] <bombshell> Goku`: That would work, but I change my default browser all the time, and I don't want to edit this script everything
[22:25] <Goku`> Mist3r_Y0u, why can't you?
[22:25] <bombshell> I know about kmclient
[22:25] <Mist3r_Y0u> my sestem now is xp
[22:25] <bombshell> I'm just looking for a similiar command for ubuntu
[22:25] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: that can be done, but I was more thinking of fixing stuff up ^^
[22:25] <Mist3r_Y0u> i want to change to ubuntu
[22:26] <hind> lock: never mind
[22:26]  * g_ gawps at moonos homepage
[22:26] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: I saw some guilds on how to fix that... I'll look it up
[22:26] <g_> now that's a desktop bg @_@
[22:26] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: yes that's my idea too... it seems I'm downloading the iso at 50kbps... it'll take a while...
[22:26] <greg1785> i
[22:26] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, thanks
[22:26] <Goku`> Mist3r_Y0u, then just use the live CD untill you can afford a new 1t disk ;)
[22:26] <lexvegas> Mist3r_Y0u, you want XP gone?
[22:26] <greg1785> on parle francais ici ?
[22:27] <YiamiYo> need help with raid0! anyone?
[22:27] <r007> Mist3r_Y0u put the ubuntu live cd and follow the prompts :D
[22:27] <Mist3r_Y0u> i dont have the CD
[22:27] <Mist3r_Y0u> i put it on FLASH
[22:27] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo lexvegas: hope I have interwebs long enough, it was supposed to be switched to our new house today...
[22:27] <shomon> hi, I have a new laptop and its wireless driver. isn't recognised by ubuntu 10
[22:27] <noric> I am trying to install some packages on an ec2 instance; it seems that libc6-xen is broken, because a dependency was upgraded. How can I tell it to just force libc6-xen to stay?
[22:27] <Goku`> Mist3r_Y0u, tell me which apps in XP you can not live without
[22:28] <r007> Mist3r_Y0u you will have to use fdisk then unless you can get the gpated live cd
[22:28] <robs1> I have a question I'm hoping someone might be willint to comment on
 Recently, I converted,  or attempted to conver an rpm package to debian by using alien.  However,  the resulting debian files did not contain a  .deb  extension.  And I cannot get the newly converted package to install.  Any ideas from anyone would be helpful.  thanks
[22:28] <shomon> its an hp g62, and the driver is pcieport according to lshw
[22:28] <Goku`> Mist3r_Y0u, not because i am sarcastic... i am in the same situation ;)
[22:28] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: can you tell me now what I'll have to do when I manage to boot with the live usb? this way if you logout I could try :)
[22:28] <r007> robs1 is it executable?
[22:29] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: this is one of them: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[22:29] <SlackRat> rob, compile from source
[22:29] <shomon> how do I get ubuntu to recognise my card?
[22:29] <me> myself
[22:29] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: ah, I'll try
[22:29] <SlackRat> shomon, erm, which card?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> shomon: what hardware is misbehaving?
[22:29] <Mist3r_Y0u> i use the LUNIXLIVE USB Creator
[22:29] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: just a sec
[22:29] <robs1> ah ok
[22:29] <ardian> Hi I am having some problems installing software from the Ubuntu Software Center
[22:29] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: take any time you need :)
[22:30] <SlackRat> ardian, join the club.................have you tried synaptic too?
[22:30] <shomon> actionparsnip, its the wireless card
[22:30] <SlackRat> shomon, what kind?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> shomon: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network   ?
[22:30] <r007> adrian apt or aptitude are your friends :D
[22:30] <YiamiYo> plz...need help with raid 0...
[22:30] <ardian> Requires installation of untrusted packages
[22:30] <SlackRat> roo7.........   :-)
[22:30] <shomon> broadcom corporation
[22:30] <ardian> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.
[22:31] <SlackRat> not all untrusted packages are evil
[22:31] <shomon> network unclaimed
[22:31] <oli> hi - is anyone able to give advice on setting up sendmail?  I'm trying to send mail through PHP...
[22:31] <antonio_> hi all
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> shomon: use: http://pastie.org to give the output (or another pastebin if you prefer)
[22:31] <oli> im a n00b btw ;)
[22:31] <SlackRat> no probleme
[22:31] <shomon> ah ok I'm on my phone u see so willbe fiddly
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> shomon: what version, is it a Broadcom 43xx ?
[22:32] <shomon> ah it says network controller is broadcom
[22:32] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: you should edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set it up for vesa. then you should blacklist your videocard drivers, and then reboot and boot with nomodeset. that way you'll at least have a working install. I'm looking up how to do it right now ^^
[22:32] <lexvegas> SharkWipf, in going to try a few things, ill let you know if any work. if not, thanks for your help!
[22:32] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: (unless you know)
[22:32] <shomon> so it is only returning info. about the network controller and eth device
[22:32] <SharkWipf> lexvegas: good luck
[22:33] <oli> exit
[22:33] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: I have no idea how to do that, well I can edit a text file... but that's all I know to do
[22:33] <brontoeee> is there a vu meter for master audio output? vizualization i mean?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> shomon: ok is the device attached via USB or is it an internal device?
[22:33] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: ah, ok. What brand is your video card? ATI?
[22:34] <ElPasmo> yes
[22:34] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: yes
[22:34] <shomon> internal
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> shomon: also can you prepend text addressed to me with my nick, see how the text to you is highlighted. thats not an accident
[22:34] <shomon> its an hp g62
[22:34] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: ok.
[22:34] <shomon> sure, actionparsnip
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> shomon: type my nick to address stuff to me, you can use tab to autocomplete
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> shomon: is it USB or is the wireless device in side the system?
[22:35] <shomon> actionparsnip no working tab button on my g1
[22:35] <ElPasmo> puddles: I don't know if I said before but thank you for the try :)
[22:35] <nickrw> ActionParsnip: case in point, you saying 'nick' beeped me :P
[22:35] <shomon> sorry
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> nickrw: hahahah sorry dude
[22:35] <shomon> actio	nparsnip, it is internal
[22:35] <marks256> i have two video cards in my system, but the BusIDs keep changing, so  XORG.conf is assinging the wrong stuff to the wrong card! how do i make it stop chaning bus ids?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> shomon: how does the wireless connect to the system? does it stick out of the system, connected via USB or is the device not attached externally and is part of the system??
[22:36] <shomon> actionparsnip I mean, it is internal
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> shomon: ok cool, can you give the output of: lspci   use pastebin to give the output
[22:36] <shomon> it is an hp g62 laptop ok actionparsnip
[22:36] <nemo> hey guys
[22:37] <max> hello
[22:37] <nemo> can I get a favour from someone here running 10.10 on an ubuntu x64 system?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> nemo: ask away
[22:37] <digitalstimulus> nemo, what are you trying to do?
[22:37] <nemo> http://code.google.com/p/hedgewars/issues/detail?id=102 - this was reported. I'm trying to get more information but the person hasn't answered
[22:37] <nemo> does someone here mind trying to install hedgewars package off of playdeb?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> shomon: run: lspci    what is the line relating to the wireless?
[22:37] <nemo> and tell me if they encounter this error on running it?
[22:38] <nemo> is a reasonably fun game, sooo, maybe not that much of an imposition ;)
[22:38] <greg1785> bonjour tout le monde ;-)
[22:38] <aguitel> how to play .mov in lucid ?
[22:38] <nemo> greg1785: bonsoir
[22:39] <digitalstimulus> aguitel, try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:39] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: I once started a thread about this problem, never got any responses, but maybe you can use some of the information in it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1584732
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> shomon: http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1561098
[22:39] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: I'm on it
[22:39] <marks256> Thought of another google search to try. Someone suggested turning off PnP in BIOS. Rebooting now to try it.
[22:39] <aguitel> digitalstimulus, and what player?
[22:39] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: it says what i've done, just not how
[22:39] <r007> nemo It did this echo root kit installed..... /rott pwned...... opening port 22......
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> shomon: use the hardware activation tool, seems to have the driver youv need
[22:39] <digitalstimulus> aguitel, I use the default, totem
[22:40] <nemo> r007: heh.  what. you've never used getdeb/playdeb before? :)
[22:40] <digitalstimulus> aguitel, ubuntu-restricted-extras package has all kinds of stuff like adobe flash player, codecs for video files, etc
[22:40] <hiexpo> hey all
[22:40] <nemo> r007: you could use the natty narwhale build from the main ubuntu if you prefer.
[22:40] <nemo> might install in 10.10
[22:40] <wn1zid> fonts 2
[22:40] <Guest52689> and java
[22:40] <nemo> but I'd prefer the playdeb one since I expect that's what the user used
[22:40] <aguitel> digitalstimulus, ok thanks
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> nemo: mixing release debs isnt advised or supported
[22:40] <nemo> ActionParsnip: plus would not be as helpful in reproducing this bug :)
[22:41] <greg1785> bonsoir on me lit ici ?
[22:41] <hermanon> hello
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> nemo: sure but if the user isnt using natty then the test isnt too useful
[22:42] <hermanon> my upload speed dropes to 0 every few seconds,any idea?
[22:42] <nemo> ActionParsnip: plus the playdeb build might have done something weird to cause this breakage
[22:42] <nemo> I want to find out ASAP before more users are impacted
[22:42] <nemo> unfortunately joaopinto has left for the day
[22:42] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: From what I read, you started having the same problems than me when you installed the ATI video drivers... and after that you managed to clean them...
[22:42] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: I believe you're /etc/X11/xorg.conf should look something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/533256/  Don't forget to make a backup first (if the file exists)
[22:43] <Blue1> !pastebin | blue1
[22:43] <nemo> so. yeah. if anyone here installs Hedgewars for me on Ubuntu 10.10 on an x64, mind messaging me so I can look into it with them?
[22:43] <nemo> thanks
[22:43] <Moobcheese> ATI + linux = DERP
[22:43] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: maybe when you install the ATI Drivers it makes a backup of the xorg.conf and it'll be sufficient to restore it?
[22:44] <r007> or just make a backup first
[22:44] <nemo> Moobcheese: amen. my ATI system just froze up hard. ubuntu 10.10, video related
[22:44] <marks256> rebooted my computer. turned off automatic PnP IRQ assignment, booted ubuntu, screens are back to normal. I guess time will tell if this solution worked. :)
[22:44] <nemo> Moobcheese: kill -9 Xorg ignored, shutdown ignored...
[22:44] <nemo> Moobcheese: had to magic sysrq
[22:44] <jcrawford> hello everyone, recently I changed my user password but my sudo password did not change with it.  the sudo password is the same as my old password.  How do I update this to my new password?
[22:44] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: hmm, I tried that as well, but it didn't restore my desktop to its state before I installed the drivers
[22:44] <shomon> actionparsnip this computer has no working wireless
[22:45] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: I even blacklisted the drivers
[22:45] <shomon> I have just searched the house for an
[22:45] <nemo> Moobcheese: also their Xrender support sucks
[22:45] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: Have tou tried installing ubuntu again?
[22:45] <shomon> ethernet cable to attach bu t it doesn't work actionparsnip
[22:45] <shomon> sorry I can't pastebin that command actionparsnip
[22:45] <r007> jcrawfard you sure your in the sudoers list?
[22:46] <cainus_> hey all... can anyone tell me why I get 404's when I try to apt-get install libssl-dev ?
[22:46] <jcrawford> r007, yes if I use my old password it works fine
[22:46] <nemo> cainus_: apt-get update maybe
[22:46] <Moobcheese> just get an nvidia card, the drop in blood pressure is worth the money
[22:46] <nemo> cainus_: you could have an old URL for a deb that was deleted
[22:46] <r007> jcrawfard your user password is the sudo password unless you have messed up permissions on your box
[22:46] <nemo> cainus_: or a bad repo
[22:46] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: hmm, I dont think I did... but it would only work untill you installed the drivers again, though
[22:46] <jcrawford> r007, how do i check that though?
[22:46] <nemo> cainus_: can also try switching mirrors - might have a mirror that hasn't updated
[22:47] <jcrawford> same thing happened on my work machine
[22:47] <siropio> is K&R book enough to go to take the next step ? which to me is the Advanced Unic Programming?
[22:47] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: da heck? why didn't I do a clean install?
[22:47] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: well yes, I can't live without the ati drivers, in fact ubuntu worked pretty fine without them
[22:47] <skelterjohn> anyone here know anything about getting wireless working? I have physically installed a gigabyte GN-WP-01GS and I'm unsure how to progress
[22:47] <cainus_> nemo: that's got it... just need to update... thanks!
[22:47] <r007> jcrawfard sudo -l and paste output ... if you can
[22:47] <nemo> ugh. whose bright idea was it to disable the volume slider while the volume is muted :( :(
[22:47] <jcrawford> sure sec'
[22:47] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: what's the meaning of "da heck"? my english is not great :P
[22:47] <nemo> god. and it isn't even obvious. isn't greyed out or anything
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> skelterjohn: if you run: sudo lshw -C network   you will see the wireless chip, you can then use it to find guides
[22:47] <danielbw> If I add a cron entry into a file under /etc/cron.d/ how soon does anacron add that listing into it's scheduler?
[22:47] <discorpia> is there any way to make nautilus sort on literal file/directory name? default seems to be to count "_X" the same as "X"
[22:47] <nemo> ElPasmo: expression of astonishment - clean version of WTH
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> danielbw: instantly
[22:48] <ElPasmo> nemo: thanks :)
[22:48] <jcrawford> http://pastebin.com/MUJ0uQZw <-- there it is
[22:48] <danielbw> ActionParsnip: How can I see the complete list of scheduled actions for anacron?
[22:48] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: I'm not willing to do a clean install, but if it's the only solution....
[22:48] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: haha, see it as a more polite way of saying WHAT THE FUCK? ;)
[22:48] <nemo> ...
[22:48] <Moobcheese> WTH is unclean? lololol
[22:48] <nemo> SharkWipf: inappropriate
[22:49] <Gangrel> !idjc
[22:49] <r007> #
[22:49] <r007> User jocrawfo may run the following commands on this host:
[22:49] <r007> #
[22:49] <r007>     (ALL) ALL you shouldnt have any issues
[22:49] <FloodBot3> r007: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:49] <SharkWipf> nemo: sorry, just explaining the meaning of the word...
[22:49] <Gangrel> !DJ
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> danielbw: crontab -e; sudo crontab -e
[22:49] <skelterjohn> ActionParsnip: thanks - is that what I see labeled "product"?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> skelterjohn: yes, use that in searches
[22:49] <Gangrel> anyone knows about IDJC?
[22:49] <danielbw> ActionParsnip: that shows an empty file
[22:49] <r007> jcrawford what problems are you having with sudo?
[22:50] <jcrawford> r007, i recently did passwd and changed my users password
[22:50] <skelterjohn> ActionParsnip: oh wait - i think i'm only getting the two wired ethernet cards...
[22:50] <hermanon> my upload speed dropes to 0 every few seconds,any idea?
[22:50] <ElPasmo> Anyway SharkWipf from what I understand you managed to arrive to the same situation as before you installed the ati drivers without a clean install
[22:50] <jcrawford> when I do sudo command it prompts for my password
[22:50] <nemo> hermanon: anything in dmesg?
[22:50] <jcrawford> when I enter my new password it rejects it
[22:50] <jcrawford> if I enter my old prior password it works
[22:50] <jcrawford> so what I need to know is how that happened and how to fix it :)  I am running 10.10 at home and 10.04 at work but it happened at both places
[22:50] <r007> jcrawford you checked the perms on the file your trying to run if its owened by root sudo might not be enough
[22:50] <ElPasmo> And the only thing you didn't explain me how to do is blacklisting the ATI drivers, how can i do that SharkWipf ?
[22:51] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: you could try vesa first, as I did in my topic. It worked to some degree. I can't remember if it got to exactly the same state though. it still gave errors
[22:51] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: oh, right
[22:51] <nemo> hermanon: look for complaints from a wifi card, or maybe something really bad like Hangcheck
[22:51] <jcrawford> r007, sudo is enough because it accepts the old password
[22:51] <hermanon> nemo:d what :)
[22:51] <jcrawford> but not the new one
[22:51] <jcrawford> and I am just restarting apache/memcache through sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[22:51] <jcrawford> etc.
[22:51] <hermanon> nemo:   dmsg>
[22:51] <r007> jcrawford have you checked /etc/paswd for duplicate usernames
[22:51] <jcrawford> r007, I have not but will check right now
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> skelterjohn: then run:  dmesg | less    and read the kernel logs, see if the chip is seen. Also make sure you have the killswitch set so the wireless is enabled
[22:52] <jcrawford> only one jocrawfo in that file
[22:52] <nemo> hermanon: dmesg not dmsg
[22:52] <burtonxfol> hi i need know how intall rlt driver wifi
[22:52] <hermanon> nemo: sorry for typos
[22:52] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: "(sudo) modprobe -r drivername" to unload until reboot, "(sudo) modprobe -b drivername" to blacklist
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> hermanon: when it drops, run: dmesg | tail   it will give clues
[22:52] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: oh wait, that is, if you have direct access to the OS
[22:52] <r007> jcrawford when you changed the password what syntax did you use?
[22:52] <hermanon> it builds up to max then it dropes to 0 then builds up again
[22:53] <jellow> anyway to grep out all reboots / shutdowns from logs ?
[22:53] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: so if you can boot in it
[22:53] <hermanon> every few seconds
[22:53] <r007> jellow last -x
[22:53] <r007> jellow last -x | grep init
[22:54] <kingfish600> need help upgrading ubuntu 10.04 to the netbook version
[22:54] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: else you'll have to blacklist them manually in /etc/modprobe.d
[22:54] <burtonxfol> hi i need know how intall rlt driver wifi
[22:54] <quizme> how can i find out how fast my cpu is ?
[22:54] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: how do I know the driver name? dpkg --get-selections | grep xorg | grep driver ?   and probably I'll have access after I change the xorg.conf won't I?
[22:54] <robs1> Anyone in here really familar with the "alien" package converter command and its usage?
[22:55] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: How do I blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d =?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> robs1: try and find a deb instead
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> !alien | robs1
[22:56] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: last question: create a textfile, and put in, one per driver, one per row: "blacklist drivername"
[22:56] <SlackRat> not as dangerous as one might think..........
[22:56] <robs1> !alien
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> SharkWipf: text file must have a .conf extension
[22:56] <jellow> r007: thank you
[22:56] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: first question: working on it ^^
[22:56] <SlackRat> alien does do a good job, mostly
[22:56] <SharkWipf> ActionParsnip: oh, that's right
[22:56] <s0l1dsnak3123> Anyone here familiar with the names of programs in mac osx?
[22:56] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: great, thanks a lot for all your time :) It's great how you are so supportive :)
[22:56] <robs1> what is  "!alien" ?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> SlackRat: for abstract apps, sure. For system libs its a really bad idea
[22:57] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: just look at the existing files in the directory
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> s0l1dsnak3123: i'm sure the guys in #mac are
[22:57] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: you're welcome ^^
[22:57] <s0l1dsnak3123> ActionParsnip, I'm looking for a linux alternative ;)
[22:57] <r007> !alien | robs1
[22:57] <SlackRat> true Action..........but I'm guessing that might be a given when figuring out what alien does.........you raise an excellent point tho
[22:57] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: you mean /etc/modprobe.d ?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> s0l1dsnak3123: try describing what the app does, rather than naming it
[22:57] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way, in 10.10, to have the broadcast and chat accounts log on when the session starts?
[22:57] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: yes, that one
[22:58] <nemo> Eh. One more try. Looking for someone willing to help me test a problem on an ubuntu 10.10 64 bit system.
[22:58] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: thanks I'll try :)
[22:58] <quizme> how do you find out the CPU speed on your ubuntu box ?
[22:58] <greg1785> jouin belgique
[22:58] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: if you indeed get access after editing xorg.conf, you can list all available modules with "sudo modprobe -l" (-l as in -L)
[22:58] <greg1785> jouin belgium
[22:58] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: sorry another question. I don't understand what you mean with "create a textfile, and put in, one per driver, one per row: "blacklist drivername" wich name has the textfile?
[22:59] <s0l1dsnak3123> Actionparsnip, I don't know what it's called, ha! Basically in OSX in their filemanager they have a really nice, fast loading previewer that's kind of built into the manager. I believe they press spacebar or something like that. Is there a similar linux-based app I can use that will behave similarly?
[22:59] <greg1785_> jouin belgique
[22:59] <greg1785_> jouin bruxelles
[22:59] <quizme> how do you find out hardward specs on ubuntu?
[23:00] <eriksson25> Plz, how do I get rid of a installed mantis driver that is installed with dkms
[23:00] <greg1785_> jouin charleroi
[23:00] <mdpatrick> I have a dynamic IP, but I want to be able to consistently get access to my ubuntu box via SSH... what's the best solution to use?
[23:00] <Guest89839> !list
[23:00] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: you can, as far as I know, name it anything, as long as it ends with .conf . if you're not sure, just edit one of the existing files
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> s0l1dsnak3123: nautilus does video and audio file previews on mouseover
[23:00] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way, in 10.10, to have the broadcast and chat accounts log on when the session starts?
[23:00] <r007> mdpatrick know which IP is in use and make sure your running the ssh daemon
[23:01] <s0l1dsnak3123> Actionparsnip, it was only for image previews. Do you know the feature I'm meaning? I'm not a mac user, but I reckon it'd be really useful for me right now?
[23:01] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: make sure to include all ATI/radeon/fglrx drivers, or at least as many as you can find
[23:01] <s0l1dsnak3123> (not mac, that feature, haha)
[23:01] <greg1785_> join belgique
[23:01] <greg1785_> jouin
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> s0l1dsnak3123: images also preview automagically i nautilus, you can make them bigger too by zooming in, ni the browser
[23:02] <greg1785_> join
[23:02] <r007> mdpatrick you could set a cron to execute a sh script that emails you ifconfig maybe
[23:02] <puddles> elpasmo: back
[23:02] <sapiens__> hi?
[23:02] <greg1785_> join belgium
[23:02] <SharkWipf> puddles: welcome back ^^
[23:02] <puddles> elpasmo: so ... um ... you know what VGA text mode looks like, yeah?
[23:02] <eriksson25> Plz, how do I get rid of a installed mantis driver that is installed with dkms
[23:02] <ElPasmo> Hi puddles.... mmmm I don't know what you mean
[23:02] <puddles> elpasmo: so my question is after you press control-x to boot, did the console just turn black right away?
[23:02] <xlogik> mdpatrick: use dyndns
[23:02] <sapiens__> i can't use my aheros wi-fi card with ubuntu 10.10
[23:03] <puddles> elpasmo: because if it did, then that means the kernel tried to switch to graphics mode
[23:03] <sapiens__> *atheros ath9k
[23:03] <SharkWipf> puddles: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1584732 it's a lot like this, on my old laptop
[23:03] <s0l1dsnak3123> ActionParsnip, im not communicating well enough to you - your answer made 100% sense in relation to my bad question, but not to what im wanting to hear, haha! I'll try and find a preview on youtube or something to give you a better idea of what i mean :)
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> s0l1dsnak3123: sounds ok
[23:03] <ElPasmo> puddles: no, I have for some seconds a blinking cursor in the upper left corner, and after that I have a black screen with power for just 2 seconds or so and after that a black screen without power (no bright at all) for eternity
[23:04] <ElPasmo> puddles: sometimes I can see a glance of the ubuntu logo with the dots below (as status bar) but that only some times...
[23:04] <puddles> elpasmo: take out the "quiet splash" options
[23:04] <greg1785_> join belgium
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> ElPasmo: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[23:04] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: if you press the powerbutton once while stuck, do you see the logo then? and does it shut down?
[23:04] <puddles> elpasmo: if you see the logo, then it is in graphic mode which you don't want :-)
[23:04] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: yes sometimes
[23:05] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: then it indeed seems to be the problem I had
[23:05] <WorkingOnWise> is there a way, in 10.10, to have the broadcast and chat accounts log on when the session starts?
[23:05] <puddles> elpasmo: kernel option line should read "... uuid=... nomodeset 1" <- no "quiet", no "splash"
[23:06] <coolfire> hello
[23:06] <coolfire> so many people
[23:06] <coolfire> where you all from?
[23:06] <ElPasmo> puddles: I have no access to the kernel option line
[23:06] <nemo> WorkingOnWise: how about just setting empathy as a startup app?
[23:06] <puddles> elpasmo: the thing is ubuntu wants to be cool and use KMS to enable smooth transition between boot right into X
[23:06] <coolfire> USA?
[23:06] <puddles> elpasmo: sure you do, during grub boot (left-shift)
[23:06] <r007> ElPasmo cant you press a or e during boot and add cli to end of the kernel argument?
[23:06] <nemo> WorkingOnWise: empathy apparently tries connecting by default unless you pass --no-connect to it
[23:06] <bluefrog> WorkingOnWise, create a new startup program in syst/pref/startup apps:     empathy -h
[23:07] <nemo> bluefrog: and -h sure :)
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ElPasmo: hold shift at boot and you will
[23:07] <ElPasmo> r007: yes puddles: left shift doesn't do anything, pressing 'e' yes, is that what you are aiming for?
[23:07] <Raikia> is there a way to get out of the command line that you get into with Ctrl+alt+f1?
[23:07] <SharkWipf> ActionParsnip: your link didn't work for me back then...
[23:07] <puddles> elpasmo: right :-)
[23:07] <ElPasmo> mmm ActionParsnip puddles I'll try again
[23:07] <s0l1dsnak3123> ActionParsnip, this is what I'm meaning: http://bit.ly/5oxJRx
[23:07] <zvacet> Raikia :  Ctrl+alt+f7
[23:08] <puddles> elpasmo: some people who have the hiddenmenu won't see the list and for them, shift is needed to see the menu
[23:08] <Raikia> zvacet, thx
[23:08] <s0l1dsnak3123> ActionParsnip, you were talking more about the first 2-5 secs
[23:08] <WorkingOnWise> bluefrog, will empathy -h make empathe connect the accounts and not launch its app window? I want the accounts logged in up on the gibber panel app
[23:08] <nemo> Looking for someone willing to help me test a problem on an ubuntu 10.10 64 bit system.
[23:08] <ElPasmo> puddles: I see always the menu :) so I have access to it and I can press the 'e'
[23:08] <nemo> WorkingOnWise: -h is for hidden
[23:08] <nemo> WorkingOnWise: empathy --help
[23:08] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: then remove quiet splash
[23:08] <s0l1dsnak3123> ActionParsnip, also, coverflow is not necessary at all
[23:09] <bluefrog> WorkingOnWise, don't know
[23:09] <puddles> i want the mac boot loader on my machine ... i want it to go "bing!" when i boot :-)
[23:09] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: ok and put only nomodeset in a new line (without 1 or =1) , Anything else?
[23:09] <SharkWipf> puddles: you indeed see the text, if I remember well, before it switches back to the black screen
[23:09] <puddles> elpasmo: no, not new line, continue the line
[23:09] <WorkingOnWise> nemo is empathy what handles the broadcast accounts on the panel app with my username on it?
[23:09] <nemo> AFAIK yes
[23:10] <ElPasmo> puddles: I'm sorry, I have to continue wich line?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> s0l1dsnak3123: nautilus does tht but less glossy, you could submit it at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com  if you like
[23:10] <WorkingOnWise> nemo, I thought that was gwibber
[23:10] <puddles> elpasmo: please don't play with the = sign :-)   "nomodeset 1"
[23:10] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: yes, same line as quiet splash before
[23:10] <mas_sergio> hi
[23:10] <mas_sergio> =]
[23:10] <s0l1dsnak3123> Actionparsnip, I found the name of the app and searched for it
[23:10] <puddles> elpasmo: there are two lines that matter.  1) kernel line, 2) initrd line.  you want to edit #1, not #2
[23:10] <s0l1dsnak3123> Actionparsnip, we have one! It's called gloobus :D
[23:10] <wng-> Can someone tell me what command I can run on the command line to launch the restricted-driver manager?
[23:10] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: puddles: I have a misunderstanding I never saw quiet splash line before, I added by myself all the times
[23:10] <Blue1> is there anyway to make the printing bigger in opera?  ctrl - makes it smaller, but ctrl + doesn't do anything.
[23:11] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: hmm...
[23:11] <puddles> elpasmo: let's try a DIFFERENT way :-)  why don't you write down what you see when you press "e" and we'll go from there.  mmkay?
[23:11] <ElPasmo> puddles: SharkWipf: Ok I see now I was doing it all wrong, I was adding that always in new lines
[23:11] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: :p
[23:11] <Robinux> is there a guide to set up ubuntu installer on a usb stick
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> s0l1dsnak3123: then use that..
[23:11] <nemo> wng-: you mean jockey?
[23:12] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: have you found the right line now?
[23:12] <ElPasmo> puddles: it's difficul, I have to do it by memory, I'll try right now
[23:12] <nemo> wng-: well. jockey-gtk I guess
[23:12] <s0l1dsnak3123> Actionparsnip, I shall ;) thanks for your help :)
[23:12] <wng-> nemo: thats it, thanks!
[23:12] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: just reboot, and it'll be back
[23:12] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: puddles I have to reboot, I'm in the same netbook with windows
[23:12] <puddles> elpasmo: yep.  believe it or not the linux kernel takes parameters during boot :-)  you just have to have a very long line to hold all the parameters
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: you can use the 1-2-3 installer on pendrive linux, or if you have booted to the liveCD there is usb-creator which you can use to install to USB
[23:12] <ElPasmo> SharkWipf: puddles, give me one sec, I'll be back
[23:12] <puddles> elpasmo: i think you got it already
[23:12] <SharkWipf> ElPasmo: ok, good luck
[23:12] <brontoeee> is there a cool (ncurses maybe?) vu meter for pulse audio master output?
[23:13] <Robinux> i just wanna install ubuntu on a laptop and wanna use a usb to do it
[23:13] <brontoeee> p.s. something that does not lag 3 seconds behind the audio
[23:13] <SharkWipf> Robinux: google Unetbootin
[23:13] <SharkWipf> Robinux: does just that
[23:13] <Robinux> i understand
[23:14] <r007> ElPasmo what you wanting to achieve?
[23:14] <shane4ubuntu> Robinux, do you have windows now?
[23:14] <Blue1> ctrl 0 (restore to orginal size) what a piece
[23:14] <Robinux> yes
[23:14] <Robinux> shane4ubuntu, yes i do
[23:14] <zvacet> Robinux:  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[23:14] <SharkWipf> r007: Elpasmo tries to get his ubuntu to boot ^^
[23:14] <SharkWipf> r007: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1584732
[23:15] <shane4ubuntu> Robinux, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-the-easy-way/
[23:15] <Robinux> NiCe!
[23:15] <Robinux> thanks guys!
[23:15] <WorkingOnWise> how do I make gwibber log my broadcast and chat accounts in on startup so they r available in the palen applet but the main gwibber window does not show up?
[23:15] <gigasoft> iz ubunti anu good?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.1.2.exe   will make a USB for you in windows
[23:15] <r007> has nobody told him to press esc at boot and select the earlier kernel
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: even downloads and MD5 tests the ISO
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Robinux: if you already have the ISO it can use that too (make sure you have MD5 tested the ISO before use)
[23:16] <SharkWipf> r007: at what point exactly (topic is mine btw =)
[23:16] <cjc2010> Is it possible to create 10 local mailboxes on my local machine and then sync them all to one email account
[23:16] <r007> if its the same as what happened to nvidia drivers he just needs to reinstall them
[23:16] <jellow>  i only have 500 mb of ram what happens when i go over my limit?
[23:17] <Robinux> roger that ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[23:17] <bluefrog> jellow, your computer will be slow
[23:17] <SharkWipf> r007: I had the same problem, and installed the drivers over and over, in tons of ways, to no avail
[23:17] <goltoof> how do i stop whatever is installing.. i tried apt-getting something and terminal froze, i just closed it, but i guess it's still in the background?
[23:17] <jellow> bluefrog: how can i clear it ?
[23:17] <r007> SharkWipf as soon as you pass post hit esc and the grub menu should display then you can select the earlier kernel
[23:17] <shane4ubuntu> jellow, first your computer will start to smoke, then you better start running! lol,  No, your computer will slow down.
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | goltoof
[23:17] <bluefrog> jellow, close apps that are eating memory
[23:17] <zvacet> jellow:  you can try Lubuntu
[23:18] <bluefrog> syst/admin/system monitor
[23:18] <SharkWipf> r007: there was no earlier kernel. In that topic I thought I installed an update, but I mislooked, and only core-utils was updated
[23:19] <r007> SharkWipf ubuntu usually stores the last 2 kernels and leaves entries in the grub menu for them
[23:19] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:    i get status database area is locked by another process
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> goltoof: the command should kill it off, make sure you don't have software centre open either
[23:20] <shomon> hi ActionParsnip this is me again with the broken wireless and hp g62 laptop
[23:20] <SharkWipf> r007: it was a brand new laptop, so I didn't have any older kernels. neither does ElPasmo, I believe
[23:20] <r007> SharkWipf you said in the post you updated the kernel
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> goltoof: you may have to run: ps -ef | grep dpkg   and kill the PID
[23:20] <shomon> ActionParsnip, I now connected the computer and am writing from there, using a micronet usb stick. but still trying to enable my internal wireless
[23:20] <SharkWipf> r007: yes, but it turned out to just be an update for bin-utils. I overlooked it
[23:21] <SharkWipf> r007: I just installed all drivers and updates after a fresh boot
[23:21] <shomon> ActionParsnip, on the link you sent before it said to update my broadcom driver. do I do this via the hardware drivers area?
[23:22] <SharkWipf> r007: and I was surprised I needed to reboot after the normal (not videocard) updates
[23:22] <r007> SharkWipf what version of ubuntu are you using and what does cat /proc/version show?
[23:22] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:   still locked
[23:22] <r007> SharkWipf if you had to reboot you have upgraded the kernel I bet
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> shomon: yes, you will need a connection to grab the driver with so use a wired connection
[23:23] <Trea> hey guys, every time I try to install ubuntu from the disk I've created it goes through all the copying files and gets stuck waiting on my to finish putting in who I am, problem is after I put in all my information it will not let me click forward.  Anyone got any ideas to fix this?
[23:23] <r007> SharkWipf what did you use to update?
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> goltoof: so no dpkg processes are running, no apt and no aptitude?
[23:23] <shomon> it doesnt work, ActionParsnip I'm connected via an external usb key
[23:23] <Sgeo> I installed Ubuntu Desktop Edition
[23:23] <Sgeo> Then decided I wanted to try Unity
[23:23] <shomon> ActionParsnip, I mean a wireless usb key
[23:24] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:   nada
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> shomon: ok then run:  lsusb  what is the 8 character Hex ID you have for the device
[23:24] <Sgeo> So I installed Unity, but whenever at the login thing, I go to Ubuntu Netbook Edition, some text thing gets italicized weirdly and the whole thing freezes
[23:24] <^DeMoN^> Saludos
[23:24] <shomon> ok
[23:24] <SharkWipf> r007: (Un)fortunately I don't have the laptop anymore. I got my money back. So ElPasmo is the only one with the problem now. I couldn't find a kernel update in the logs, and used the default updater, popping up when there are updates (in gnome)
[23:24] <mikha_> can anyone tell me why i can connect o irc and to pidgin and not to firefox?
[23:24] <wedwo-> Trea, don't use any caps in the username
[23:24] <hiexpo> 10 char
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> mikha_: is the wireless device in your system not connected?
[23:25] <Trea> wedwo: thank you, I wasn't sure cause it was still giving me the check marks next to the box like it was fine
[23:25] <Trea> wedwo: if that doesn't work any other ideas?
[23:25] <zvacet> Sgeo: Unity is (for now) in use just in UNR so that can be reason for your problems
[23:25] <shomon> ActionParsnip, I'm not trying to get this one to work. I plugged it in from my desktop computer, so as to get on here and ask you how to get the internal wireless working
[23:25] <shomon> ActionParsnip, but the hex code is 0bda:8189
[23:25] <r007> SharkWipf well synamtec will include kernel updates
[23:25] <wedwo-> Trea, come back and tell us if it doesn't work
[23:25] <skelterjohn> mikha_: in the firefox "file" menu is "work offline" checked?
[23:25] <mikha_> 10.10
[23:25] <Sgeo> So, can I easily install some package to give me UNR stuff?
[23:25] <Trea> wedwo: ok I can do that, thanks
[23:26] <Sgeo> Or will that interfere with the Desktop install?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> mikha_: is the wireless not connected?
[23:26] <Robinux> oh crap man i stared at the list the usb installer offers to install linux-installer for you, and now i'm not sure wether to go for normal ubuntu or xubuntu
[23:26] <aeon-ltd> Sgeo: no you log into a separate session, you can always go back to regular gnome
[23:26] <Robinux> ummm is there a place to explain purely their differences?
[23:26] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/533273/
[23:26] <r007> Robinux do you want gnome or xfce?
[23:26] <Robinux> is it only the desktop manager/ GUI thing
[23:27] <zvacet> Sgeo: UNR is for netbooks (ubuntu netbook remix) so I dont know will it and how work on desktop
[23:27] <r007> Robinux thats the only diff
[23:27] <Robinux> i've never used/seen/or heard of xfce (new to linux)
[23:27] <jgjones> Hello
[23:27] <SharkWipf> r007: but it will also show in the synaptic logs, right? and there was no new choice in kernel in the grub menu.
[23:27] <Sgeo> Can I just install ubuntu-netbook?
[23:27] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:
[23:27] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/533274/
[23:27] <r007> Robinux use ubuntu then gnome
[23:27] <jgjones> Is there a dependancy problem with installing libqt4-opengl in Ubuntu 10.10? Thanks
[23:27] <r007> SharkWipf should do yes
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> mikha_: is File->Work Offline ticked?
[23:28] <SharkWipf> r007: also, ElPasmo doesn't have exactly the same laptop, but does have the same problem
[23:28] <Robinux> oh really r007, in that case i dunno i'll go for normal ubuntu i guess, but then again i can install ubuntu and then install xfce, which will give me the option to choose what desktop manager i need?
[23:28] <zvacet> Robinux : you can easy replace one desktop with another if you like
[23:28] <Robinux> at start up i mean
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> goltoof: sudo kill -9 9627
[23:28] <r007> Robinux yes you can do that if your new to Linux you want gnome which is what ubuntu uses
[23:29] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:  still locked
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> shomon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsRealTek
[23:29] <Robinux> cool
[23:29] <SharkWipf> r007 (and puddles) : unfortunately I really have to go now... can you take over from me when (/if) ElPasmo comes back?
[23:29] <Zulus> do possible in x-chat to see user list in channel ? :) 1st time on x-chat
[23:29] <Robinux> i'll use that for now :D and then try to install xfce at a later time and have the choosing option :)
[23:29] <GEEGEEGEE> I need something that will save a image of a disk without saving the empty space. what shall i use
[23:29] <shomon> ActionParsnip, you think my internal card is a realtek?
[23:29] <goltoof> Zulus:    /j  #xchat
[23:29] <Robinux> thanks guys
[23:29] <Zulus> k
[23:29] <puddles> sharkwipf: i think he's having fun
[23:30] <aeon-ltd> Zulus: /list if you meant that
[23:30] <goltoof> Zulus: they're usually pretty responsive  :)
[23:30] <Robinux> and edubuntu?
[23:30] <Robinux> haha
[23:30] <SharkWipf> puddles: probably. lets take that as a good sign ^^
[23:30] <Agent_Smith> hi all
[23:30] <zvacet> Robinux. and lubuntu  ;)
[23:31] <goltoof> ActionParsnip:   all started when i tried fingering someone.. and said i need to get the finger package.. which froze it
[23:31] <r007> Robinux thats ubuntu with the education packages installed iirc
[23:31] <Agent_Smith> I am tring to stop ssh with this command "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop" but the process restart automatically with another id
[23:31] <Agent_Smith> anyone has already had this problem?
[23:31] <shomon> ActionParsnip, I think the realtek is the usb wireles, but I'm trying to fix the internal broadcom wireless card that came with this hp g62 laptop
[23:31] <Robinux> iirc? r007
[23:32] <r007> if i remember correctly
[23:32] <WorkingOnWise> how do I make gwibber log my broadcast and chat accounts in on startup so they r available in the palen applet but the main gwibber window does not show up?
[23:32] <Robinux> :P hehe. ok
[23:33] <Agent_Smith> is there a watchdog process for ssh???
[23:33] <Agent_Smith> I am tring to stop ssh with this command "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop" but the process restart automatically with another id
[23:33] <pedro> hi guys
[23:34] <r007> Agent_Sith not sure but wtmp stores the failed logins
[23:34] <r007> Agent_Smith not sure but wtmp stores the failed logins
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> shomon: its a realtek chip and now you know the model of the chip so yuou can find guides on how to make it run, strange its saying broadcom
[23:35] <Trea> wedwo:that was it, its currently installing but I was able to get past that screen, I feel quite embarrassed it was something so simple
[23:35] <pedro> little help please. my applications are not starting whem i press the loader. can someone please help
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> shomon: you can always use the windows driver+ndisgtk if push comes to shove
[23:35] <shomon> ActionParsnip, I'm not sure if you mean the internal one or the one I'm using now
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> pedro: launch one from the terminal, the output my help
[23:35] <goltoof> so no way to get this zombie process to stop without restarting?
[23:36] <Agent_Smith> r007: the last command tell me that only me tried
[23:37] <r007> Agent_Smith iptables -I INPUT 4 -p tcp --dport 22 -s 0.0.0.0 -j DROP or change the sshd.conf and change listening port from 22
[23:37] <Maletor> How do I downgrade bluetooth to the Lucid version?
[23:37] <jpds> r007: You don't need the 0.0.0.0.
[23:37] <Agent_Smith> r007: ive alredy did this
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> shomon: oh you have TWO wireless adapter, that makes more sense. ok the usb one uses a realtek chip and you can grab guides for that online
[23:37] <r007> Agent_Smith iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 22  -j DROP  infact that should do
[23:37] <Agent_Smith> r007: I am using another port
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> shomon: the internal one is a broadcom and should be usable once you use the broadcom how to
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | shomon
[23:38] <Agent_Smith> r007: the problem is that I cant stop the sshd deamon
[23:38] <shomon> ActionParsnip, thanks very much!
[23:38] <Agent_Smith> r007: and I dont why
[23:38] <Agent_Smith> r007: even if I do kill -9
[23:38] <r007> is xinet starting it maybe
[23:38] <jpds> Agent_Smith: sudo service ssh stop ?
[23:38] <pedro> cant lauch from the terminal either :\
[23:39] <Agent_Smith> jpds: :D
[23:39] <Agent_Smith> jpds: why /etc/init.d/ssh stop didint work?
[23:40] <jpds> Agent_Smith: It should do.
[23:40] <jcrawford> r007, sorry i had to step away and my buffer does not go back that far, did you say something?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Agent_Smith: try: sudo service sshd stop
[23:40] <r007> no it shouldnt if hes not root
[23:40] <Agent_Smith> jpds: ActionParsnip this is working
[23:40] <Agent_Smith> r007: I was tring as a root
[23:41] <ElPasmo> puddles: ActionParsnip r007 I'm back, I managed to run into the console but not to recover the gnome... I'll paste you a report of what I tried in a second
[23:41] <Agent_Smith> r007: but the sshd came back with another id
[23:41] <Maletor> How do I downgrade bluetooth to the Lucid version?
[23:41] <Buttons840> so have anyone noticed that if you let gedit sit open for 15 minutes and don't do anything wit it, and then try to close it, it will warn that the last 15 minutes of changes (yes, all zero of the changes) will be lost?
[23:41] <YiamiYo> how can i remove grub from the mbr of an hdd?
[23:41] <Maletor> Also, my conky disappears behind my desktop on startup. How do I fix that?
[23:41] <r007> ElPasmo have you tried start x or /etc/init.d/gdm start ?
[23:41] <jpds> Agent_Smith: Read: /etc/init/ssh
[23:41] <jpds> Agent_Smith: /etc/init/ssh.conf*
[23:41] <[deXter]> Hi all, I've disabled GNOME Keyrings password prompting, so it should be fine if I remove all the keyring stuff from startup, right?
[23:42] <Maletor> Also, a startup process I have listed in System=>Preferences does not actually fire and start up. I have to run the command manually.
[23:42] <goltoof> Buttons840:   sounds like you could use a hobby
[23:42] <ElPasmo> r007: no I'll try now.
[23:42] <Agent_Smith> jpds: are you saing sshd_config, right?
[23:42] <jpds> Agent_Smith: No.
[23:42] <pedro> cant launch for example ps3 media server
[23:42] <shomon> ActionParsnip, I'm now not sure if my internal wireless card is actually broadcom. I just ran lscpi -vvnn  | grep 14e4 and it says "network controller: Broadcom" but no reference to a wireless card
[23:42] <nemo> Buttons840: never noticed that actually. on a blank document?
[23:42] <jpds> Agent_Smith: /etc/init/ssh.conf ←
[23:42] <Buttons840> goltoof: indeed, but i'd rather have some time off work :)
[23:42] <YiamiYo> i have 2 hdds in raid0 with grub2 and my old hdd with grub-legacy but i  dont know how to remove it...it works if i remove the sata cable of the hdd so the raid0 grub is fine...
[23:43] <puddles> elpasmo: what does "recover gnome" mean?
[23:43] <Agent_Smith> jpds: let me see
[23:43] <pedro> empathy and when i press the user close to the clock and IM accounts nothing happens :\
[23:43] <Buttons840> nemo: well, i was working on a file stored on a remote server (connected using ssh), so that might have something to do with it; but no, not a blank document, an existing document
[23:43] <YiamiYo> is it ok if i do "dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1" ??
[23:44] <shcherbak> Agent_Smith: chmod sshd to disable it
[23:44] <nemo> Buttons840: ah. could be related, sure.
[23:44] <WorkingOnWise> how do I make gwibber log my broadcast and chat accounts in on startup so they r available in the panel applet but the main gwibber window does not show up? The gwibber-service is running
[23:44] <goltoof> Buttons840: don't like gedit personally, scribes, emacs, vim save to swp in case you accidentally close it.. gedit doesn't autosave afaik
[23:44] <r007> Agent_Smith is it a desktop or a server?
[23:45] <shcherbak> ?
[23:45] <puddles> elpasmo: you boot into runlevel 1, this gives you opportunity to edit the grub config file (/etc/default/grub), regenerate the boot files (update-grub2), and remove the xorg driver that gives you trouble
[23:45] <puddles> elpasmo: once done you can just "init 5" to go into X
[23:45] <Agent_Smith> r007: desktop
[23:45] <jewsucanuse> hey ripps, is seeking broken in recent mplayer builds?
[23:45] <Agent_Smith> shcherbak: the service command is working
[23:45] <r007> Agent_Smith and your knowingly runing an ssh daemon?
[23:46] <wedwo-> Trea, good to hear, so you solved your root partition problem too then?
[23:46] <shcherbak> Agent_Smith: but you said that it does restart?
[23:46] <ElPasmo> puddles: it means I can't access to graphical mode, only to console.. I didn't touch grub config file but I've restored a vesa version of xorg.conf, what should I change in grub config file? and what's "init 5" for?
[23:47] <puddles> elpasmo: /etc/default/grub <- put in the "nomodeset", take out "splash"
[23:47] <r007> Agent_Smith sounds like your rooted or xinet is controlling sshd
[23:47] <puddles> elpasmo: "init 5" = go into run level 5 (start X)
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> ElPasmo: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[23:47] <pedro> ActionParsnip it wont start from the terminal either :\ not working is Empathy, Ps3 Media Server and when i press the user close to the clock and IM Accounts nothing happens
[23:47] <ElPasmo> ok puddles one questions, is there any difference between loading recovery mode or normal mode in grub?
[23:48] <puddles> elpasmo: i suppose so
[23:48] <Agent_Smith> shcherbak: when I use "sudo kill -9 processid" or "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop" the process sshd stop and start again with another id
[23:48] <r007> ElPasmo recovery mode is single user
[23:48] <Agent_Smith> r007: I really dont know
[23:48] <ElPasmo> ActionParsnip: I tried that link with no joy
[23:49] <r007> Agent_Smith have you installed an ssh server?
[23:49] <Agent_Smith> shcherbak: when I use "sudo service ssh stop" its working
[23:49] <ElPasmo> puddles: r007 what I mean is, should I make my tries in recovery mode or in normal mode?
[23:49] <Agent_Smith> r007: yes
[23:49] <YiamiYo> can anyone tell me how can i remove grub from mbr plz?or at least how i can overwrite it with the grub my other hdd has...
[23:49] <shomon> ActionParsnip, I upgraded the driver via system/hardware drivers and now it works, thanks very much for your help!
[23:49] <shcherbak> Agent_Smith: so which sshd to get path and chmod 444 (or wahtever) path/sshd, this will grave it
[23:49] <ylmfos> hello
[23:49] <puddles> elpasmo: normal is fine.  the only differences are in kernel options (read /boot/grub/grub.cfg is you're curious)
[23:50] <puddles> elpasmo: which you've effectively done
[23:50] <Agent_Smith> shcherbak: I'm trying to understand why ... I remeber in the past that I could stop in these ways
[23:50] <shcherbak> Agent_Smith: sorry need to read faster, and get coffe
[23:50] <r007> Agent_Smith how did you install and configure it?
[23:50] <ElPasmo> puddles: ok... I'll make a try
[23:50] <jpds> Agent_Smith: I was trying to point out that in /etc/init/ssh.conf - there's a "respawn" line.
[23:51] <Agent_Smith> r007: apt-get install openssh-server
[23:51] <Agent_Smith> jpds: I saw
[23:51] <Agent_Smith> jpds: I'm trying to understand in detail how this work
[23:52] <Agent_Smith> there is no man page for respawn
[23:52] <sunshine1> drop "respawn"
[23:53] <r007> init should not automatically restart anyway xinet yes
[23:53] <jpds> Agent_Smith: Ubuntu now uses Upstart: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[23:53] <Agent_Smith> jpds: let me see
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> shomon: np bro. Enjoy :)
[23:54] <Agent_Smith> jpds: "Services may be respawned if they die unexpectedly"
[23:55] <r007> thats connections
[23:55] <Agent_Smith> jpds: sorry but I'm not a native speaker and I dont know whats the mean of "respawned"
[23:55] <Agent_Smith> jpds: :(
[23:55] <Agent_Smith> jpds: I'll check the dictionary
[23:55] <r007> thats not the service thats connections
[23:56] <bombshell> I'm having a issue with empathy
[23:56] <bombshell> The panel gadget
[23:56] <jpds> Agent_Smith: They automatically get restarted if something unexpected happens.
[23:56] <ElPasmo> r007: puddles I'm in ubuntu
[23:56] <r007> jpds thats the connections not the service
[23:56] <bombshell> When I click offline, everything else grays out and leaves me with no option to make me available again
[23:56] <RogueShadow> I was playing with fire, and made it impossible to start up new windows in gnome, and likely if I logout I won't be able to start gnome again. "symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_mapped_file_unref
[23:56] <ElPasmo> puddles: r007  but something is wrong, I've lost the netbook edition panels
[23:57] <jpds> r007: Explain.
[23:57] <Agent_Smith> jpds: Thanks!!!
[23:57] <bombshell> I usually have to go through chat accounts, disable account and re-enable it, to force it to connet
[23:57] <puddles> elpasmo: can't help you there :-)
[23:57] <r007> jpds thats when a session timeouts for it to reconnect
[23:57] <Agent_Smith> jpds: take a look what I get from cambridge dictionary >>>> "respawned was not found"
[23:57] <Agent_Smith> :(
[23:58] <ElPasmo> puddles: I have the unity edition, don't you have any idea? finally I manage to do an aptitude -purge xserver-xorg-video-radeon and it worked
[23:58] <jpds> Agent_Smith: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiktionary/en/wiki/respawn
[23:58] <Xborder> hi guys. i cant launch any applications. maybe something to do with permissions cause Empathy doesnt launch, and whem i go to system ->preferences -> im and VoIp accounts nothing happens
[23:58] <Xborder> little help please
[23:59] <Gnea> Xborder: do you have an LED for your HDD?
[23:59] <puddles> elpasmo: sorry, i don't use the unity