| Ben604 | Hello? | 12:32 |
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| Ben604 | anybodyyyyyyyyyy thereeeeeeeeeee? | 12:32 |
| alkisg1 | Eeeeeeeermmmmmm not sure... | 12:32 |
| Ben604 | not sure if I'm in the right place... | 12:33 |
| Ben604 | we're running ubuntu server, within hyper-v, behind an internet proxy | 12:33 |
| Ben604 | however | 12:33 |
| Ben604 | we can't seem to get ubuntu to access the outside world via our proxy | 12:33 |
| Ben604 | which is a massive shame | 12:34 |
| alkisg1 | Yup, it doesn't look like the right place. You should probably try in #ubuntu or in #ubuntu-server or somewhere similar. | 12:34 |
| Ben604 | haha | 12:34 |
| Ben604 | thank you kindly! | 12:34 |
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| highvoltage | Edubuntu meeting in 23 minutes if I'm not mistaken :) | 18:37 |
| HedgeMage | hi, highvoltage | 18:44 |
| HedgeMage | I can actually make that one :) | 18:44 |
| highvoltage | whohoo | 18:45 |
| highvoltage | HedgeMage: I never received your suggestion for alternate meeting time! | 18:45 |
| HedgeMage | highvoltage: ooh, I need to do that! | 18:46 |
| HedgeMage | pm me your email addy in case I don't already have it, please? | 18:47 |
| highvoltage | jonathan@ubuntu.com | 18:47 |
| HedgeMage | I lost a bunch when the desktop died its final death, not sure if yours was one | 18:47 |
| HedgeMage | got it :) | 18:48 |
| dinda | ok, here's the support issue I'm trying to find help for a non-profit group located in Somerville, Massachussetes | 20:15 |
| dinda | they have a college student working an iso for an image they are using on some older dell desktops P4, 512 mb | 20:16 |
| dinda | they are trying to get the boot time down - it's currently around 8 minutes | 20:16 |
| mhall119 | 8 minutes? wow | 20:16 |
| dinda | does anyone know Casper/grub well enough to maybe talk to this kid on the phone and answer some questions for him? | 20:16 |
| alkisg | 8 minutes to boot?! A bootchart would help. | 20:17 |
| dinda | http://itd-usr.blogspot.com/ is his blog detailing some of the work he's doing now | 20:17 |
| mhall119 | dinda: is he messing with casper scripts? | 20:18 |
| dinda | mhall119: yeah | 20:18 |
| dinda | mhall119: that's where he's stuck | 20:19 |
| mhall119 | there's his first problem :( | 20:19 |
| dinda | should I send him to the mailing list? or ask him to come in here? | 20:21 |
| dinda | even if I need to pay for an hour of someone's time to talk to him on the phone, it's a really worthy cause | 20:21 |
| alkisg | Wouldn't #ubuntu-devel be a more appropriate place for casper related questions? | 20:22 |
| mhall119 | dinda: feel free to give him my email address and I'll do what I can, but I'm by no means an expert | 20:24 |
| mhall119 | I learned enough hacking casper scripts in Qimo 1.0 to not do it again in 2.0 | 20:24 |
| dinda | mhall119: thanks, that wouldbe much appreciated. | 20:24 |
| mhall119 | michael [at] qimo4kids | 20:25 |
| mhall119 | [dot] com | 20:25 |
| dinda | mhall119: ok, his name is Ian, will introduce you | 20:25 |
| highvoltage | dinda: I'd be glad to help him on IRC, I'd just need an heads-up of when and what his nick is | 20:25 |
| highvoltage | well, if mhall119 has it covered, that's fine then :) | 20:25 |
| mhall119 | yeah, if he can get on IRC, that'd be faster | 20:25 |
| dinda | highvoltage: not sure he's on IRC yet but will suggest it to him | 20:25 |
| mhall119 | it'll serve him well to be on IRC, and also to hookup with his local loco team | 20:26 |
| dinda | mhall119: yes i was trying to find doctormo and others in the Boston area | 20:27 |
| JanC | so, would the "school server in a box" be about specific school-related packages being included by default? | 20:29 |
| mhall119 | JanC: my thoughts were it would be everything a small school might need to setup school-wide infrastructure | 20:30 |
| mhall119 | so it sould be identity management (LDAP), file sharing (Samba), possibly email, plus things like schooltool, italc and LTSP | 20:30 |
| mhall119 | a filtering proxy would be good too | 20:31 |
| dinda | JanC: the idea to have something relatively inexpensive that could ship on a server appliance and allow schools with low or no internet local server tools | 20:33 |
| dinda | JanC: Tom Hoffman of SchoolTool created something with just schooltool on an ARM box | 20:33 |
| JanC | aha, so more or less an "SMB server" but tailored to schools | 20:34 |
| dinda | JanC: so I was building on that, something a school can just plug in, select the software, minor config and then run | 20:34 |
| dinda | JanC: yup, exactly | 20:34 |
| JanC | sounds interesting | 20:34 |
| dinda | Turnkey linux has a nice selection of appliance images already | 20:35 |
| mhall119 | dinda: michelle and I talked about something like this a couple years ago but it was "charity server in a box" | 20:35 |
| dinda | but I'm hoping to find an OEM to make and ship the box as a commercial product | 20:35 |
| JanC | I guess some way to publish an external website might be cool too | 20:35 |
| mhall119 | yeah, internal websites would be useful too | 20:36 |
| JanC | (not sure if schooltool supports that) | 20:36 |
| JanC | mhall119: I was also thinking about integration between internal & external website | 20:36 |
| mhall119 | JanC: that would be nice, but more involved | 20:36 |
| mhall119 | I was just planning on taking existing things and putting them in a single simple install | 20:37 |
| mhall119 | kind of like what edubuntu and qimo already do with games and apps | 20:37 |
| dinda | JanC: issue is that many schools still don't even have internet access or very limited | 20:37 |
| mhall119 | OpenLDAP and Samba work very well together once they're configured to do so, but the configuration is often difficult | 20:38 |
| JanC | hm, that's not really an issue here, but would certainly be in some parts of the world | 20:38 |
| mhall119 | if you can ship an install with that already done, you're 75% of the way to your goal | 20:38 |
| dinda | yeah, has to be dead on simple | 20:38 |
| JanC | that = internet access | 20:38 |
| JanC | mhall119: I think an SMB server that does the LDAP + Samba thing would be a good start... ;) | 20:44 |
| JanC | well, there is the thing-previously-known-as-ebox of course | 20:45 |
| JanC | (I always forget the new name) | 20:45 |
| JanC | but maybe that's not exactly what schools need | 20:45 |
| dinda | JanC: actually been talking to them, they are now called zenytal | 20:46 |
| mhall119 | JanC: yeah, we discussed that at UDS | 20:46 |
| JanC | they probably want to group users per function (student vs. teacher), but also by class etc. | 20:46 |
| JanC | not sure that's possible with Zenytal | 20:47 |
| JanC | I guess an LDAP-profile that's more school-specific might be useful there | 20:57 |
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