[12:32] <Ben604> Hello?
[12:32] <Ben604> anybodyyyyyyyyyy thereeeeeeeeeee?
[12:32] <alkisg1> Eeeeeeeermmmmmm not sure...
[12:33] <Ben604> not sure if I'm in the right place...
[12:33] <Ben604> we're running ubuntu server, within hyper-v, behind an internet proxy
[12:33] <Ben604> however
[12:33] <Ben604> we can't seem to get ubuntu to access the outside world via our proxy
[12:34] <Ben604> which is a massive shame
[12:34] <alkisg1> Yup, it doesn't look like the right place. You should probably try in #ubuntu or in #ubuntu-server or somewhere similar.
[12:34] <Ben604> haha
[12:34] <Ben604> thank you kindly!
[18:37] <highvoltage> Edubuntu meeting in 23 minutes if I'm not mistaken :)
[18:44] <HedgeMage> hi, highvoltage
[18:44] <HedgeMage> I can actually make that one :)
[18:45] <highvoltage> whohoo
[18:45] <highvoltage> HedgeMage: I never received your suggestion for alternate meeting time!
[18:46] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: ooh, I need to do that!
[18:47] <HedgeMage> pm me your email addy in case I don't already have it, please?
[18:47] <highvoltage> jonathan@ubuntu.com
[18:47] <HedgeMage> I lost a bunch when the desktop died its final death, not sure if yours was one
[18:48] <HedgeMage> got it :)
[20:15] <dinda> ok, here's the support issue I'm trying to find help for a non-profit group located in Somerville, Massachussetes
[20:16] <dinda> they have a college student working an iso for an image they are using on some older dell desktops P4, 512 mb
[20:16] <dinda> they are trying to get the boot time down - it's currently around 8 minutes
[20:16] <mhall119> 8 minutes? wow
[20:16] <dinda> does anyone know Casper/grub well enough to maybe talk to this kid on the phone and answer some questions for him?
[20:17] <alkisg> 8 minutes to boot?! A bootchart would help.
[20:17] <dinda> http://itd-usr.blogspot.com/  is his blog detailing some of the work he's doing now
[20:18] <mhall119> dinda: is he messing with casper scripts?
[20:18] <dinda> mhall119: yeah
[20:19] <dinda> mhall119: that's where he's stuck
[20:19] <mhall119> there's his first problem :(
[20:21] <dinda> should I send him to the mailing list?  or ask him to come in here?
[20:21] <dinda> even if I need to pay for an hour of someone's time to talk to him on the phone, it's a really worthy cause
[20:22] <alkisg> Wouldn't #ubuntu-devel be a more appropriate place for casper related questions?
[20:24] <mhall119> dinda: feel free to give him my email address and I'll do what I can, but I'm by no means an expert
[20:24] <mhall119> I learned enough hacking casper scripts in Qimo 1.0 to not do it again in 2.0
[20:24] <dinda> mhall119: thanks, that wouldbe much appreciated.
[20:25] <mhall119> michael [at] qimo4kids
[20:25] <mhall119> [dot] com
[20:25] <dinda> mhall119: ok, his name is Ian, will introduce you
[20:25] <highvoltage> dinda: I'd be glad to help him on IRC, I'd just need an heads-up of when and what his nick is
[20:25] <highvoltage> well, if mhall119 has it covered, that's fine then :)
[20:25] <mhall119> yeah, if he can get on IRC, that'd be faster
[20:25] <dinda> highvoltage: not sure he's on IRC yet but will suggest it to him
[20:26] <mhall119> it'll serve him well to be on IRC, and also to hookup with his local loco team
[20:27] <dinda> mhall119: yes i was trying to find doctormo and others in the Boston area
[20:29] <JanC> so, would the "school server in a box" be about specific school-related packages being included by default?
[20:30] <mhall119> JanC: my thoughts were it would be everything a small school might need to setup school-wide infrastructure
[20:30] <mhall119> so it sould be identity management (LDAP), file sharing (Samba), possibly email, plus things like schooltool, italc and LTSP
[20:31] <mhall119> a filtering proxy would be good too
[20:33] <dinda> JanC: the idea to have something relatively inexpensive that could ship on a server appliance and allow schools with low or no internet local server tools
[20:33] <dinda> JanC: Tom Hoffman of SchoolTool created something with just schooltool on an ARM box
[20:34] <JanC> aha, so more or less an "SMB server" but tailored to schools
[20:34] <dinda> JanC: so I was building on that, something a school can just plug in, select the software, minor config and then run
[20:34] <dinda> JanC: yup, exactly
[20:34] <JanC> sounds interesting
[20:35] <dinda> Turnkey linux has a nice selection of appliance images already
[20:35] <mhall119> dinda: michelle and I talked about something like this a couple years ago but it was "charity server in a box"
[20:35] <dinda> but I'm hoping to find an OEM to make and ship the box as a commercial product
[20:35] <JanC> I guess some way to publish an external website might be cool too
[20:36] <mhall119> yeah, internal websites would be useful too
[20:36] <JanC> (not sure if schooltool supports that)
[20:36] <JanC> mhall119: I was also thinking about integration between internal & external website
[20:36] <mhall119> JanC: that would be nice, but more involved
[20:37] <mhall119> I was just planning on taking existing things and putting them in a single simple install
[20:37] <mhall119> kind of like what edubuntu and qimo already do with games and apps
[20:37] <dinda> JanC: issue is that many schools still don't even have internet access or very limited
[20:38] <mhall119> OpenLDAP and Samba work very well together once they're configured to do so, but the configuration is often difficult
[20:38] <JanC> hm, that's not really an issue here, but would certainly be in some parts of the world
[20:38] <mhall119> if you can ship an install with that already done, you're 75% of the way to your goal
[20:38] <dinda> yeah, has to be dead on simple
[20:38] <JanC> that = internet access
[20:44] <JanC> mhall119: I think an SMB server that does the LDAP + Samba thing would be a good start...  ;)
[20:45] <JanC> well, there is the thing-previously-known-as-ebox of course
[20:45] <JanC> (I always forget the new name)
[20:45] <JanC> but maybe that's not exactly what schools need
[20:46] <dinda> JanC: actually been talking to them, they are now called zenytal
[20:46] <mhall119> JanC: yeah, we discussed that at UDS
[20:46] <JanC> they probably want to group users per function (student vs. teacher), but also by class etc.
[20:47] <JanC> not sure that's possible with Zenytal
[20:57] <JanC> I guess an LDAP-profile that's more school-specific might be useful there