[06:53] <rebirth> i installed qtractor from the software ceneter, what's the best way to go about upgrading it to the latest version? i download it
[07:01] <holstein> rebirth: good question
[07:02] <holstein> if your 'up to date'
[07:02] <holstein> the thats the latest version in the repos
[07:02] <holstein> you could add a PPA
[07:02] <holstein> like falktx 's PPA
[07:02] <holstein> from kxstudio
[07:02] <holstein> might have a newer version
[07:02] <holstein> other than that
[07:03] <holstein> you probably have to build whatever version you find on the site
[07:03] <holstein> unless there is a .deb on the site
[07:03] <rebirth> holstein: looks like the latest release is 4.7 but i'm running 4.5
[07:05] <rebirth> can you explain what it means to add a ppa please? sorry still learning
[07:05] <holstein> sure
[07:05] <holstein> lets look at..
[07:06] <holstein> w0w
[07:06] <holstein> launchpad is slow...
[07:07] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/lucid
[07:07] <holstein> IF your running lucid
[07:07] <holstein> you add this PPA
[07:07] <holstein> the packages listed there ^^
[07:07] <holstein> will be available to you
[07:07] <holstein> from where ever
[07:07] <holstein> software center
[07:07] <holstein> synaptic
[07:08] <holstein> apt or whatever you do
[07:08] <holstein> IF there is a package that is not available
[07:08] <holstein> its availalbe now
[07:08] <holstein> IF there is a newer verion
[07:08] <holstein> of a package you already have
[07:08] <holstein> newer/different
[07:08] <holstein> then you can install that one now as well
[07:09] <holstein> im running lucid with falks PPA
[07:09] <holstein> so i have newer version of lots of packages
[07:09] <holstein> JACK2
[07:09] <holstein> a newer ardour
[07:10] <holstein> you can use the PPA purge function of ubuntu tweak if bad things happen
[07:10] <rebirth> ok i added the source
[07:11] <holstein> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[07:11] <rebirth> looks like a lot of stuff popped up in the update manager
[07:11] <holstein> yup
[07:11] <holstein> it'll probably want to do a partial upgrade
[07:11] <holstein> it = update manager
[07:12] <rebirth> yay it has the 4.7 qtractor
[07:12] <holstein> sweet :)
[07:13] <holstein> i was about to try and see what version was in there
[07:16] <rebirth> is this going to install a lot of new software?
[07:20] <holstein> yup
[07:20] <holstein> well
[07:20] <holstein> newer versions
[07:20] <holstein> it wont install anything you dont already have installed
[07:21] <holstein> except maybe a dependancy here and there
[07:26] <rebirth> but it will add new software to the software center correct?
[07:26] <holstein> should
[07:26] <holstein> i dont know much about the software center
[07:27] <holstein> but AFAIK it looks at the repos in your software cources
[07:27] <holstein> sources*
[07:27] <rebirth> yeah that's what i think
[07:27] <holstein> might not look as slick
[07:28] <holstein> or have all the info
[07:28] <rebirth> yeah now when i look in the software center for qtractor is has the latest version in there
[07:31] <holstein> alright... bedtime :)
[07:41] <rebirth> thanks for your help!
[17:05] <christopher_> having blender problem here with mouse rotation
[19:46] <Neosano> any software like Kontakt for linux?
[19:46] <Neosano> I can't get it to work with wine
[19:46] <Neosano> just want to play goddamn piano :>
[20:26] <holstein> hey Neosano
[20:26] <Neosano> hey :)
[20:26] <holstein> your looking for a piano sound?
[20:26] <Neosano> yeah
[20:26] <holstein> there are a couple ways
[20:26] <Neosano> I have a lot of soundfonts
[20:26] <Neosano> large ones
[20:27] <holstein> yeah
[20:27] <Neosano> more than 1 gb
[20:27] <holstein> soundfonts are one way
[20:27] <Neosano> but they're in .gig or just a lot of files in one folder
[20:27] <Neosano> But which software can play them? :<
[20:27] <holstein> pianoteq is great
[20:27] <holstein> there is a demo version free
[20:27] <holstein> Neosano: OH
[20:27] <holstein> you can use qsynth
[20:28] <holstein> im going to refer you to #opensourcemusicians
[20:28] <holstein> there are some midi folk there
[20:28] <holstein> i dont do a lot of midi myself
[20:28] <holstein> i did get JACK + qsynth going
[20:29] <Neosano> qsynth...
[20:29] <Neosano> I simply don't understand qsynth
[20:29] <holstein> yeah
[20:29] <holstein> its strange
[20:29] <holstein> you have to load the sondfont in there
[20:29] <holstein> and connect in JACK
[20:29] <holstein> the MIDI in from your device
[20:29] <holstein> and the audio routing too
[20:29] <holstein> works great though
[20:30] <holstein> id have to have it in front of me to talk you through it
[20:30] <Neosano> hmm wait gonna try it myself
[20:30] <holstein> maybe something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdtWYsUSK8s
[20:31] <holstein> the UI's usually stay pretty similar from version to version
[20:31] <holstein> looks like zynaddsubfx is in that vid
[20:31] <holstein> and yoshimi is the new fork of that
[20:33] <Neosano> Im watching this video
[20:34] <Neosano> damn..
[20:34] <Neosano> now I can't hear anything in youtube..
[20:34] <holstein> OH you got JACK running?
[20:34] <holstein> yeah, theres a pulse to jack bridge around in a PPA for lucid
[20:34] <holstein> i think its in the repos for maverick though
[20:34] <holstein> i dont use it myself
[20:35] <holstein> i seem to always have another PC around if i need some pulse audio :)
[20:35] <Neosano> :|
[20:36] <Neosano> so when I press keys on my midi controller Qsynth flashes the green light
[20:36] <holstein> AH
[20:36] <holstein> thats good :)
[20:36] <Neosano> awesome, where's the sound?
[20:36] <holstein> probably just need to make the audio connections then
[20:36] <holstein> in JACK
[20:36] <holstein> under the audio tab
[20:36] <holstein> you should see the instance of the synth you created in qsynth
[20:37] <holstein> just make sure the out is routed to whatever your monitoring with
[20:37] <Neosano> errmm
[20:37] <holstein> probably the main outs on your sound card
[20:37] <Neosano> left side
[20:37] <Neosano> system(capture_1, capture_2)
[20:37] <holstein> yeah
[20:37] <holstein> should be something on the left side from qsynth
[20:37] <Neosano> right side - system(playback_1 etc. to 8)
[20:37] <Neosano> nothing else
[20:37] <Neosano> :|
[20:38] <holstein> and system plackback 1 and 2 are what you want on the right
[20:38] <Neosano> ahhh
[20:38] <Neosano> no
[20:38] <Neosano> I had to choose jack in qsynth
[20:38] <holstein> AH :)
[20:38] <holstein> that makes sense
[20:38] <holstein> i didnt know you could use qsynth without JACK
[20:38] <Neosano> o m g
[20:38] <Neosano> it works..
[20:38] <Neosano> what if I try another sf...
[20:39] <holstein> i had several instances in qsynth
[20:39] <holstein> and routed
[20:39] <holstein> BUT there are other ways im sure
[20:39] <holstein> easier
[20:43] <Neosano> still it doesn't do the thing I need
[20:44] <Neosano> .sf2 files work nicely in LMMS
[20:44] <Neosano> and I haven't ever seen any large sf2 good piano
[20:44] <holstein> Neosano: see if you can catch [lsd] over in that channel
[20:44] <holstein> he's my go-to MIDI guy :)
[20:44] <Neosano> :O
[20:45] <Neosano> oh yeah
[21:32] <virtu> http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Monster-Interlink-250-RCA-Stereo-Audio-Cable-1-5M-/220696386618?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3362879c3a
[21:36] <virtu> which is better?
[21:37] <virtu> http://cgi.ebay.com/GATOR-STRETCHY-88-KEY-KEYBOARD-COVER-GKC-1648-GKC1648-/370394131818?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item563d35ed6a
[21:37] <virtu> http://cgi.ebay.com/KEYBOARD-PIANO-DUST-COVER-KACES-NEW-76-88-NOTE-/330497080812?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf3293dec
[21:37] <virtu> http://cgi.ebay.com/Stage-Keyboard-Dust-Cover-88-Key-Keyboards-NEW-/360295920548?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e34f73a4
[21:37] <virtu> last one http://cgi.ebay.com/Odyssey-Stretch-Cover-88-Note-Keyboards-/200542389678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb14205ae
[21:40] <holstein> id probably just use a towel ;)
[21:41] <holstein> i would probably try and get something with some padding
[21:41] <virtu> holstein, hi =) tks (right now I am using a towel)
[21:42] <holstein> hehe
[21:42] <holstein> if it aint broke... :)
[21:42] <virtu> today I receive some gadgets from USA
[21:42] <virtu> a kindle to a friend and some cloths from Aeropostale saleout
[21:43] <virtu> maybe this week I receive the behringer =)
[21:44] <virtu> this one seems ok http://cgi.ebay.com/Stage-Keyboard-Dust-Cover-88-Key-Keyboards-NEW-/360295920548?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e34f73a4 43 solds
[22:05] <Neosano> holstein, yayz, linuxsampler is exactly what I need
[22:06] <Neosano> virtu cover?
[22:06] <Neosano> why would you need a cover
[22:07] <Neosano> I always put it next to the wall when I'm not playing lol
[22:07] <virtu> Neosano, hi... protect from dust
[22:07] <Neosano> :|
[22:07] <Neosano> why would you protect it.. from dust..
[22:07] <Neosano> uh
[22:07] <Neosano> I'll never understand it
[22:41] <virtu> http://d.imagehost.org/0175/IMAG0024.jpg
[22:41] <virtu> http://d.imagehost.org/0772/IMAG0026.jpg
[22:42] <virtu> my piano at grandma house