[10:00] <dbarth_> njpatel, klattimer: hi guys
[10:00] <klattimer> morning dbarth_
[10:01]  * dbarth wonders why he got an underscore... ;)
[10:02] <dbarth> njpatel, klattimer: irc? skype? phone?
[10:02] <klattimer> dbarth: we're about to skype
[10:02] <klattimer> dbarth: can it just be me and neil, I want to get pretty technical
[10:03] <dbarth> klattimer: hey, i like when it gets technical as well ;)
[10:03] <klattimer> heh
[10:03] <klattimer> well, I'm still lacking skype5 beta
[10:03] <klattimer> but I'll try and dig it out
[10:03] <klattimer> got tied up with other things last night
[10:03] <dbarth> no worries, but let's start the 3 of us and i'll let you guys continue anyway
[10:04] <klattimer> k
[10:04] <klattimer> well, give me a mo to download the latest skype
[10:04]  * klattimer thanks virgin for his upgrade to 50Mbit :D
[10:11] <njpatel> dbarth, 3, does that mean I need to be on windows?
[10:11] <njpatel> or does it work with skype linux?
[10:21] <ivanka> godbyk: hi, are you there?
[10:21] <ivanka> godbyk: I would love to catch up on the survey
[10:21] <ivanka> JanC: was it you who was working on it with godbyk ^
[10:24] <JanC> ivanka: JanC != JanCBorchardt ☺
[10:26] <ivanka> JanC: :-) thanks
[10:35] <seiflotfy_> hey guys
[10:35] <seiflotfy_> unity ppa for maverick?
[11:55] <klattimer> dbarth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-applet/+bug/634035
[11:55] <klattimer> might be the same bug as I was talking about yesterday, see the last comment
[11:57] <klattimer> dbarth: also, I'd like this one off my bug list as it's only for translators to pick up now; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/619816
[12:10] <seiflotfy_> njpatel, is a unity ppa coming up for maverick soon
[12:10] <seiflotfy_> ?
[12:13] <njpatel> hopefully, we're working on int
[12:13] <njpatel> it*
[17:21] <smorar> Hey, am getting a build error when building unity 3.1.4 on maverick: QuicklistView.cpp:343: error: ‘UnGrabPointer’ was not declared in this scope
[17:24] <smorar> ah, new version of nux required... sorry, don't mind me
[17:45] <dbarth> smorar: right
[17:45] <dbarth> smorar: it's just getting released
[17:45] <dbarth> we're having similar build issues in the daily builds as well ;)
[17:48] <smorar> dbarth: thanks, my build is sucessful
[19:32] <seiflotfy> lamalex, or any1 with enough vala experience
[19:32] <seiflotfy> mhr3,
[19:32] <seiflotfy> http://pastebin.ca/1995708
[19:32] <seiflotfy> -.-
[19:32] <seiflotfy> i installed folks from source
[19:32] <seiflotfy> with prefix == /usr
[19:33] <mhr3> did you add it to configure?
[19:33] <seiflotfy> yes i did
[20:11] <kklimonda> seiflotfy: it looks like you are missing CFLAGS set somewhere in Makefile
[20:12] <kklimonda> not much to do with vala
[20:46] <kklimonda> vish: is there a papercut about inability of creating bookmarks from "root" of remote shares by pulling them to the Nautilus placesarea?
[20:48] <vish> kklimonda: i dont think there is..
[20:51] <kklimonda> vish: do you think it's an adequate report for marking it as a papercut ?
[20:51] <kklimonda> or is it something that may be to complicated to implement?
[20:52] <vish> kklimonda: well, not really sure of the bug but handling remote shares is not really an average user task
[20:53] <kklimonda> ah, it's probably more complicated than that - I can't drop other partitions onto places either.
[20:54] <kklimonda> vish: our definition of average users is getting very.. simple. :)
[20:54] <vish> :)
[20:54] <kklimonda> vish: I'd say that handling shares is more or less common task in home networks.
[20:54] <kklimonda> (and Ubuntu and Linux sucks badly at doing that)
[20:55] <vish> kklimonda: the whole remote desktop UI is a bad mess in itself.. :/ there are some changes planned in GNOME, hopefully they get implemented
[22:15] <seiflotfy> any vala guys
[22:15] <seiflotfy> http://pastebin.com/BrLhReFb
[22:15] <seiflotfy> i am facing this issue
[22:15] <seiflotfy> and its bugging me
[22:17] <fagan> seiflotfy: ill have a look
[22:17] <fagan> oh makefiles im terrible with them someone else help :)
[22:18] <kklimonda> seiflotfy: it doesn't look like a vala problem :)
[22:18] <kklimonda> seiflotfy: can you paste configure.ac and Makefile.am somewhere?
[22:19] <fagan> seiflotfy: it cant find glib.h so you need to have the glib -dev libs installed id say
[22:21] <fagan> seiflotfy: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[22:22] <fagan> seiflotfy: does that work?
[22:26] <seiflotfy> its installed
[22:26] <fagan> hmmmm then I dont have a clue
[22:26] <seiflotfy> kklimonda, its a problem with my installation of folks
[22:26] <seiflotfy> i installed it
[22:26] <seiflotfy> fomr source
[22:31] <kklimonda> seiflotfy: it comes with .pc file, your configure should find it and set right -I flags for gcc
[22:32] <seiflotfy> kklimonda, can u help me out with that
[22:32] <seiflotfy> where do i set the gcc flaggs
[22:32] <kklimonda> seiflotfy: sure. That depends on the build system you are using
[22:33] <kklimonda> seiflotfy: do you use autotools or handcrafted Makefile?
[22:33] <seiflotfy> i am working on the unity-place-sample
[22:33] <kklimonda> let me clone it then
[22:34] <kklimonda> it doesn't really mention libfolks, is there another branch?
[22:35] <seiflotfy> kklimonda, yeah
[22:35] <seiflotfy> wait
[22:35] <seiflotfy> reverting it
[22:35] <seiflotfy> :)
[22:35] <seiflotfy> my branch
[22:36] <seiflotfy> kklimonda,
[22:36] <seiflotfy> iflotfy: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
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 seiflotfy: does that work?
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 its installed
 hmmmm then I dont have a clue
 kklimonda, its a problem with my installation of folks
 i installed it
 fomr source
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 seiflotfy: it comes with .pc file, your configure should find it and set right -I flags for gcc
 kklimonda, can u
[22:36] <seiflotfy> woops
[22:36] <seiflotfy> sorry
[22:36] <kklimonda> ulala :)
[22:36] <fagan> lol seiflotfy
[22:36] <seiflotfy> p:~seif/+junk/error-unity-places
[22:36] <seiflotfy> kklimonda, lp:~seif/+junk/error-unity-places
[22:36] <rickspencer3> you rang?
[22:36] <seiflotfy> rickspencer3, sorry
[22:37] <seiflotfy> was trying to paste something
[22:37] <spikeb> mispaste :)
[22:37] <seiflotfy> yeah
[22:38] <kklimonda> seiflotfy: can you paste result of make V=1 ?
[22:39] <seiflotfy> http://pastebin.com/EajMHGuN
[22:39] <seiflotfy> kklimonda, ^
[22:41] <kklimonda> seiflotfy: and the content of config.log ?
[22:41] <kklimonda> I can't build folks > 0.3.0 locally because it depends on gee < 0.7.0.. it's getting ridiculous ;)
[22:42] <seiflotfy> http://pastebin.com/3TpCKi7r
[22:42] <kklimonda> it looks like PLACE_DAEMON_CFLAGS isn't set
[22:42] <seiflotfy> kklimonda, just add the telepathy dev ppa
[22:42] <seiflotfy> kklimonda, where do i set that
[22:42] <kklimonda> it should be set by the configure script
[22:43] <kklimonda> and it is here.. hmm..
[22:44] <kklimonda> but make doesn't see it
[22:44] <seiflotfy> and its only when i add libfolks
[22:44] <seiflotfy> i can continue development without it
[22:45] <seiflotfy> but again i do need it sooner or later
[22:52] <seiflotfy> kklimonda, ?
[22:53] <kklimonda> seiflotfy: you could try removing the minimum version for folks from configure.ac
[22:54] <seiflotfy> kklimonda, well configure works
[22:54] <seiflotfy> its just make that does not
[22:57] <kklimonda> seiflotfy: right, the problem is I can't reproduce it when I did that: http://pastebin.com/MnZfRpn6
[22:57] <kklimonda> i.e. it builds ;)
[22:58] <seiflotfy> ok
[22:58] <seiflotfy> cool
[22:58] <kklimonda> are you using maverick + some local build directories or natty?
[22:59] <seiflotfy> nope
[22:59] <seiflotfy> only maverick
[22:59] <seiflotfy> :)
[23:00] <kklimonda> really weird but then some autotools related things are weird
[23:53] <seiflotfy> fagan, u up
[23:53] <seiflotfy> ?
[23:53] <seiflotfy> or any1 vala related
[23:53] <fagan> barely
[23:53] <fagan> :)
[23:56] <spikeb> (random question time) any recommendations for reading material on usability?
[23:56] <fagan> whats up seiflotfy ?
[23:56] <fagan> spikeb: you would have to ask during the day
[23:56] <fagan> the design team are based in london and its 12 AM here
[23:57] <spikeb> fagan, ok!
[23:57] <fagan> :)
[23:57] <spikeb> i suppose i could just send it to the mailing list, too.