[00:41] is it possible to have all commands that a script runs be listed? [00:45] I want to see what command it is running so if the script is blah=hello;echo $blah it should print to screen blah=hello echo hello hello [01:46] If anyone needs help I am here for now [02:27] hakimsheriff: I have needed help the whole night... [02:28] nlsthzn, that's strange, you've only said one word. :~) [02:28] ibuclaw: I needed help staying awake ;) [02:29] some good coffee helps [02:30] and usually a random 8 minute project to keep your senses preoccupied [02:30] this nightshift has been too long (used to down the stuff by the litre... but been coffee free since Sept [02:31] learn how to make microwave cake. [02:31] http://www.dizzy-dee.com/recipe/chocolate-cake-in-5-minutes [02:32] lol [02:32] nothing can completely make up for lack of sleep [02:33] I know, and it sucks. [02:37] but, my night is just about up... next shift is incoming... then home, food and sleeeeeeeeeeep [02:54] srry been busy. wat is ur prob? [02:55] have to go bye === tenach_ is now known as tenach [03:01] Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, add to that, it's been about 10 years since I spent any time on irc. My question: Does Ubuntu come with its own firewall-type protection at install, or should I be adding something asap? (I'm going to be running a Smoothwall later in the week, should I get off Ubuntu until that happens?) [03:02] dented: Linux is pretty secure from backdoor exploits, but it still comes with a firewall system called iptables. Software to configure it is available in the repos; firestarter is one. [03:03] dented: I don't know about SHOULD you add something asap, but...I generally run my ubuntu computers bare...haven't needed to set up anything further [03:03] dented: There's a debate whether or not you really need a firewall (same ideas as antivirus)... I run without one on my desktop system. [03:04] Thank you. So far, I feel like I'm in a McDonalds commercial (I'm lovin' it) [03:04] a NAT-router is always nice to have for all computers :-) [03:04] dented: The only extra security layer I put onto Ubuntu is the installation of the current beta of NOD32 antivirus, so I can check my Windows drives if I suspect they're compromised. [03:05] how good is clam antivirus btw? [03:05] bobo123: Not... very good. [03:05] Hmm... I was liking the idea that it's opensource [03:05] bobo123: It's good only as cursory protection, and the filesystem scanner is crap. On-demand scanning works, but it somewhat difficult to configure [03:06] aha. [03:06] yeah I only want on demand scanning. I don't like stuff running in the background. [03:06] bobo123: Unfortunately, it depends on signatures (its heuristics detection system is laughable at best) and the signatures are very far out of date. [03:06] oh [03:07] I hate it when AV scans memory/applications as they open. It slows everything down. [03:07] bobo123: Yeah. Since it has no funding, it has no real way of doing the massive amount of testing that Symantec or Kapersky or etc. have to do. [03:07] tenach: I've never noticed any performance hit running NOD32. [03:07] someone should make a program that converts comercial antivirus databases so they work with clam :-) [03:07] bobo123: That would be patent violation. [03:07] aveilleux, NOD32 is not in my experience inside Linux. [03:08] tenach: The beta's open, give it a shot. http://beta.eset.com/ [03:08] well, not patent but copyright. (and software patents are not legal here) [03:08] tenach: It might be ending soon though, I'm not sure. [03:08] Ah. [03:09] I haven't worried much about attacks before running XP, but since I finally, after years of waiting, have high-speed available in my town (you wouldn't believe how far in the bush I am), I haven't felt at much risk as 4.5k/s dial-up. Thanks again for the guidance, folks, I'll likely be back. [03:10] Actually dial-up is much more vulnerable than digital Internet service... [03:10] I wonder how I survived with a 33kbit/s modem [03:14] about viruses... is it possible to instruct wine that windowsprogram are not allowed to write outside its directory? [03:15] Really? The brother user to go looking for boxes to sneak into and set up servers... He (and according to him, most of his "crew" just ignored anything they couldn't move files on or off under 60k/s [03:16] *"brother used to" [03:17] What makes dial-up more vulnerable? [03:18] dented: The fact that you can just dial into any network, and capture any network traffic. It's not encrypted, or anything. A dialer program can essentially gain access to any machine that accepts the handshake. [03:19] dented: Dial-up was what made being a cracker a few years back very, VERY easy to execute. Not that uh... *cough* I would know anything about that. [03:19] Ah. I always just left mine on and connected to my isp... auto-dialed itself if the connection ever dropped [03:20] and yes... it always dialed where it was supposed to, for ten years [03:20] bobo123: Not that I'm aware of, but most programs are hardcoded to latch onto certain locations, and WINE's C:\ is in ~/.wine/dosdevices/drive_c so it doesn't matter anyway. [03:21] bobo123: WINE only executes in standard usermode, and invoking WINE in sudo just screws a lot of things up. So unless you map your C:\ drive to / and give your user root access to everything, you're safe from viruses running inside WINE. [03:21] aveilleux:or are you talking about going the other way? [03:22] dented: Inbound, yes. Not spoofing numbers. Dialing into other peoples' modems and messing around in there. [03:22] dented: All you had to do was find out that person's phone number and take a few minutes to fetch the password sequence (they don't exactly use public-key authentication). [03:23] aveilleux:Yeah, mine was always set up to not answer incoming calls. [03:23] dented: Unfortunately that is not usually the case, and up until recently it wasn't even the default. [03:24] dented: It was usually set up to allow incoming calls so the ISP could fix problems with the modem remotely... a great idea in concept, a rotten one in practice. [03:24] We used to love people who had fax-modems set up recieve faxes... or we "would" have if we were doing that kind of thing [03:25] dented: Black faxing is still a fairly common practice. [03:29] have a good nigh/day folks, depending where you are. [03:33] ok [03:35] I suppose that if I want to run a windowsprogram that might be evil I could run it as another user than my normal to be safe. === karthick87 is now known as Guest33729 === karthick1987 is now known as karthick87 [07:14] And he's back, with a quick question about "Firestarter": from 21:40:00hours to 01:01:38 hours (now-ish) Firestarter has blocked 59 "Serious" events in the log. Does that seem normal? Most of them are Telnet but there's a couple ftp, ssh, and a pile of "Unknown" events listed in the log. Is this pretty much normal? I've got 20 "Unknowns" from one IP in the space of a minute. Should I just be thankful that this thing is working and [07:14] go to bed? [07:16] dentedfxp: not sure sorry, I've not used firestarter before [07:18] Heh, just found the unknowns, I tossed an http:// at the IP and got back the following: "If you see portscans/abuse from 85.190.0.3 Please read http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#proxies" [07:19] It's just Freenode. Goodnight. [07:19] A quick google suggests it's fairly normal [07:19] dentedfxp: ah good stuff. Glad it's sorted for you.l [07:20] thanks. === karthick87 is now known as karthick1987 === karthick1987 is now known as karthick87 === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [09:46] i installed ubuntu 9.10 alongside windows.....but m stuck with sh:grub>... [09:49] why did you install 9.10 when you could install 10.10 [09:50] well i had 9.10 cd...didnt had time t download 10.10 [09:51] can u tell me whats wrong..?why wont it boot? [09:51] sh:grub> doesnt tell much [09:52] http://grub.enbug.org/Manual#GrubShell [09:52] well ......when i boot into ubuntu ....it just dispalys a prompt with sh:grub> [09:52] nothing else [09:54] i tried this......but it says.....out of disk [09:54] ! [10:17] hello [10:22] hallo [10:23] hey [10:26] hoi [10:28] any good reason to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10? [10:28] not really [10:29] i did't think so [10:34] Hello. [10:39] hi there Fox of the colour Silver [10:39] :P [10:40] Hello Puck` . [10:40] How are you? [10:42] better than yesterday (: [10:42] did you do any progress on that project? [10:43] That is good Puck` . [10:43] The project is not likely to have any progress until Saturday evening :( [10:45] trhisdone, only thing I found was nice fonts in ubuntu maverick didnt see much difference [10:52] i havn't found a good font for ubuntu yet....they all look blurry [11:07] trhisdone, ubuntu font looks really nice, and blurry fonts may be improves by System > Preferences > Appearance > tab Fonts > Rendering [11:08] ive tried every setting with just about every font and have not found one that wins me over..... im using droid sans now its about the best looking to me [11:09] but i still think the fonts look better in windows [11:29] When I install via synaptic in lucid lynx such as AVG I don't get an icon on the desktop or in the applications menu is there something I need to do to get these? [11:30] Sorry wrong question. Please forget this one [12:14] Hello all... [12:15] nice to meet all the guys agin after a long time [12:17] hello [12:17] trhisdone, hy [12:17] :) [12:17] hows it going [12:18] good [12:18] its SHAHAN [12:18] #freenode === shahadat is now known as shahan [12:20] hello shahan [12:21] brb need coffee === karthick1987 is now known as karthick87 [14:11] someone is asking how can he make his computer to use only a web browser and that settings etc. won't be changeable [14:11] he want's to put it in his cafe [14:12] what would be the best way to do so? [14:26] serfus, store temp files in /tmp and make a readonly user directory [14:29] you can cut a little slack on the user directory by cleaning stuff for example from Downloads in .profile [14:29] found something called Sabayon. looks like it could be right for him but i'm not sure how hard it is to handle as he is not a computer guy [14:29] hi [14:30] i have dualbooting system( ubuntu + xp). my doubt is if i install only ubuntu can i run windows based applications? [14:31] try some wine ttrubuntu [14:31] ttrubuntu, you can use wine or one of wine frontends, or you can install xp on a virtual machine [14:32] yes heard about wine. but will it work without windows installation at all? [14:33] serfus: i don't like windows anymore. but some commercial s/w only available in windows [14:33] ttrubuntu, what i would recommend for you to do it to check with http://appdb.winehq.org/ [14:34] serfus: i will refer the website [14:35] just enter the game/app/software you need and in the results you can see if it works, about troubles if there is and a grade [14:36] i will be happy if commercial s/w designed for windows runs in ubuntu without windows installation [14:44] is there an option to make only the web browser accessible? [14:46] ttrubuntu, which apps do you need to run ? [14:47] UndiFineD: matlab, multisim, modelsim ---- electronic packages [14:48] if i run them almost i'll say goodbye to windows [14:48] matlab is available for linux i think [14:49] i think so, but our institute bought windows version [14:49] http://www.mathworks.com/products/matlab/requirements.html [14:49] thanks for the link. yes [14:50] with a login: https://www.mathworks.com/accesslogin/login.do?uri=http://www.mathworks.com/downloads/web_downloads/agent_check%3Fmode%3Dgwylf [14:50] for full version download [14:51] thanks UndiFineD. will check that too [14:52] and the simulation apps ... are addons for it ? [14:53] no. they are separate products themselves. modelsim is by M/S Mentor Graphics [14:53] http://forums.ni.com/t5/Circuit-Design-Suite-Multisim/Linux-install-of-NI-Multisim-10-1-using-Wine/m-p/787362?requireLogin=False [14:54] http://model.com/content/modelsim-downloads [14:54] whoa... thanks. so suitable link [14:56] just looking around with the right keywords :) linux and the app [14:57] thank you. but they are also talking about virtual machine [15:00] wine is some form of VM too [15:01] or you could use kvm / virtualbox / vmware / other [15:01] oh ok. [15:05] i am reading the WINE wiki. looks like getting answers to my q. see u with more doubts [15:06] ? [15:07] ah yes, the forum says so too, more success with a proper vm [15:09] but matlab must be able to run natively, although, that may not be very handy, when you need to exchange data / information [15:23] UndiFineD: is it. catch u later. bye for now === Joeb454 is now known as CptSerious === Silver_Fox_ is now known as The_Flower_Man === CptSerious is now known as Joeb454 === The_Flower_Man is now known as Silver_Fox_ [15:47] hello [15:47] some coffee break ;) [15:49] lol [15:49] im doing 15 things at once [15:50] im starting to like this ubuntu but i dont think it will replace my win xp anytime soon [15:54] my daughter likes it but she is only 8....just happy to have a computer [15:56] trhisdone: I'm not eight and I'm happy with Ubuntu ;-) [15:56] trhisdone: It's a lot to learn, but it's worth it [15:58] well i didn't mean it like that [15:58] trhisdone: I know, I know, hehe [15:58] lol...there is just some things i do that i havn't found a solution for in ubuntu yet [15:58] there might be one out there somewhere [15:58] trhisdone: Well that's what we're here for! Toss a list my way sometime. [15:59] trhisdone: Migrating from Windows to Ubuntu is one of my specialities. [15:59] i havn't been able to find anything to compare with nero yet [15:59] trhisdone: Ubuntu comes with Brasero built-in. [16:00] yeah but its not as feature rich as nero [16:00] trhisdone: What features are you missing? [16:01] multiple burner support, automatically turning mp3's into "audio cds" those are the 2 big ones [16:03] also i have an access database of my cds and dvds .....not sure what i would do about that [16:03] trhisdone: You can burn audio CDs from Brasero, just select "Audio CD". If not that, then you can use Rhythmbox. Linux programs are usually more specialized than Windows programs (opting for multiple programs that do one job well, as opposed to one program that does everything with mediocrity) [16:03] try k3b instead then - or even nero for linux [16:04] i already got nero 6 which i think is the best burning program ever made ...nero7 and up is bloatware [16:04] trhisdone, missing features ? we have dd [16:04] ? [16:05] trhisdone: Nero Linux 4 is designed much in the same vein as Nero 6 [16:05] well i don't want to buy something if i already got something [16:05] not sure nero would be free [16:05] trhisdone: Also, by "multiple burner support" I assume you mean more than one hardware burner drive, yes? I believe you can open more than one instance of Brasero and use more than one drive that way. [16:05] $ dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/cdrom bs=512 [16:06] UndiFineD: That's a bit advanced for trhisdone right now. [16:06] UndiFineD: that hardly adds anything to the conversation [16:06] ;) but it works [16:06] trhisdone: as I said - have a look at k3b [16:06] i been using k3b [16:07] trhisdone: k3b is also very powerful, +1 hobgoblin if Brasero is not up to your liking [16:07] it can do multiple instances but it doesn't have a choice to burn to multiple burners [16:07] trhisdone: Also, back to audio CDs... the first option when opening Brasero is to create a traditional audio CD [16:07] hey undifine what does that command do? [16:08] it copies raw [16:08] trhisdone: dd is a block-level copying program. You can take one input file (if=*) and copy it to multiple outputs (of=*) [16:08] ok thats a bit advanced...lol [16:08] at the end of the day there are always reasons to not move completely - nothing will be exactly the same as windows - mostly cos it's not - that is the choice :) [16:08] trhisdone: You can try Nero 6 under WINE, but I don't know how well it would work [16:09] i tried that...no go [16:09] cdburnerXP is how nero used to be [16:12] UndiFineD: The only problem with using dd is that it doesn't handle files... it handles images, and copies the raw data stream to the output, which doesn't work for burning data files, since the ISO-1996 filesystem is not recreated. [16:12] but he wanted to do disc to disc [16:12] which would work with dd i think [16:13] UndiFineD: I don't think that's what trhisdone meant. [16:14] multiple burner support [16:14] ...it doesn't have a choice to burn to multiple burners [16:28] no i was looking to burn 3 copies at the same time.... i usually burn a copy for my 2 cars and 1 for the radio by the pool.......its not that big a deal just something nero can do [16:33] k3b is fine for one copy at a time [16:38] actually for something that is free ubuntu seems really good [16:40] trhisdone: I should hope so! [16:40] lol [16:41] trhisdone: LOL [16:52] well i got to go....laters [16:52] trhisdone: Have fun and good luck [16:55] anyone know how to download/install the Kate IDE on Maverick? [16:58] SPooN, sudo apt-get install kate [16:59] BBL [17:01] http://pastebin.com/1H0qWpPs [17:02] SPooN: Do you still have Synaptic open? If so, close it. [17:02] i installed ubutu 10.10 alongside windows xp using wubi...but now when i boot into ubuntu i get a GRUB> prompt,,,,what to do? [17:02] aveilleux: I can't see it (in bottom bar) but it says its open... [17:03] SPooN: It might be on another desktop. [17:04] aveilleux: says it's in "noninteractive mode". [17:04] aveilleux: Transmission doesn't count does it? [17:04] SPooN: What? No, Transmission is unrelated. [17:04] ok [17:04] SPooN: Transmission is a Bittorrent client. It has nothing to do with Synaptic. [17:04] ok [17:06] try this: kill -9 $(ps -ef |grep synaptic |cut -d ' ' -f 2) [17:06] SPooN: Copy and paste that, if you typo it won't work. [17:06] is that at all safe? [17:07] SPooN: Yes. [17:07] :P [17:07] SPooN: It kills the Synaptic process entirely. [17:07] that just brings up usages [17:08] kill -9 $(ps -ef |grep synaptic |cut -d ' ' -f 2) [17:08] kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec] pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec] [17:08] (didn't pastebin for 2 lines) [17:08] SPooN: what is the output of ps -ef |grep synaptic ? [17:10] aveilleux: http://pastebin.com/6x5C2ca2 [17:11] SPooN: Oh, right. It's running as root [17:12] aveilleux: I'm the only user, so am I not root by default? [17:12] SPooN: kill -9 $(ps -ef |grep synaptic |cut -d ' ' -f 2) [17:12] SPooN: No, you're not. You can't log in as root. That's what sudo is for. [17:12] whoops, I mean [17:12] SPooN: sudo kill -9 $(ps -ef |grep synaptic |cut -d ' ' -f 2) [17:13] brings up a usage table again... [17:13] * aveilleux sighs [17:13] :P [17:13] what if I just rebooted? [17:13] sudo kill -9 25512 [17:13] sudo kill -9 25515 [17:13] sudo kill -9 25654 [17:13] sudo kill 9 25657 [17:13] er [17:13] sudo kill -9 25657 [17:14] I should run all of those? [17:17] SPooN: Yes [17:20] SPooN: Some of them may come up with errors, that's fine. Run ps -ef |grep synaptic again when you're done just to check [17:20] ok [17:20] thanks [17:30] hello [17:30] hello === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:55] hi! [17:57] Is there some work i could help in? [17:57] !ask | angelo [17:57] angelo: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [17:57] hi angelo - if you want to help - juts hang about and wait for someone to ask [17:58] angelo, what do you mean [17:58] hi bioterror :-) [17:59] hi [17:59] i mean that i'd like to help in ubuntu community; i can program in C++, Java, and other things [17:59] angelo, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved [17:59] angelo, first step is to create a launchpad.net account, if you dont have one [17:59] ok, thank u! [18:00] now i see [18:00] Hola hobgoblin =] [18:01] I think I am in half sleep. I was thinking that he was asking for help :( [18:01] * Mohan_chml just came from a marriage after spending days in hospital :| [18:01] i went there some time ago, but i read the advice about using irc [18:01] | bioterror [18:02] ah, i didnt read your last line bioterror..... [18:02] yes, i created it [18:05] well, you should think what you want to do [18:06] contribute building an application such us irc, brasero, etc [18:06] ... [18:06] could u help me? What should i do? [18:07] for example, doing it with another person [18:07] im new here [18:07] angelo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment#Packaging [18:07] :-) thank u [18:08] ok. Are u doing this? [18:27] here is a beginner question, I am trying to play a dvd in VLC but it is copyprotected, what do I add to play this. [18:29] javatexan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs should get you started [18:30] ok....cool thanks [18:46] !wine [18:46] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [19:07] !appdb LoL [19:07] Factoid 'appdb LoL' not found [19:07] !appdb League of Legends [19:07] SPooN: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:09] SPooN: please do not spam the bot [19:12] SPooN: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi [19:21] bodhizazen: pm? [19:24] guys [19:24] what's the default password for sudo????? [19:25] tronyx: its not known [19:25] You're really not supposed to know [19:26] or it's the same as the first user that was created on the box [19:26] hello tronyx - it's on the forum somewhere I am sure - I saw something once upon a time - might take a bit of google-fu [19:26] tronyx: Do you mean for sudo apt-get foo? [19:27] tronyx: I assume you are talking about not an install [19:28] lol i was just going to troll [19:28] then i remembered how helpful everyone here is so i decided not to [19:28] dont even [19:29] Don't even try to troll [19:29] such a helpful bunch [19:29] why :( [19:29] tronyx: I almost told you the password was pants - but didn't bother [19:30] and how the devil are you old chap [19:31] i am not sure how that's relevant [19:32] which or what [19:32] my age [19:34] sigh [19:35] i guess today isn't my day to have fun [19:35] bodhizazen: i have come to turn myself in. i am a troll [19:37] lol [19:37] but i must warn you hobgoblin, paultag is also a troll [19:38] tronyx: don't I know it [20:14] Is there a simple way to download and install all upgrades in the backgroun, not just security updates? [20:15] ...wow, impatient. [20:22] aveilleux, yeah... [20:34] hi there! I'm trying to start an app using: /etc/init.d/red5 start and it does not work. any idea where can I find the logs? [20:36] perhaps /var/log === karthick1987 is now known as karthick87 [20:56] tronyx: How is life ? [20:56] he he, how do I change a name from guest12345 to a name I can register with nickserv? [20:57] malev: run the script from the command line =) [21:07] malev: try /var/log/daemon.log or messages or syslog [21:08] Anyone willing to give me feedback / constructive criticism on my new layout ? [21:08] http://blog.bodhizazen.net/Table/iptables.php?nav=iptables [21:08] I know, I have been working on it for a while now, but I think that is what I am going to go with for now [21:08] TYIA [21:08] * bodhizazen ends shameless self promotion [21:10] thanks drubin! [21:10] also thanks you bodhizazen! [21:14] hi [21:15] Can somebody giv me some advice on installing Ubuntu ? [21:19] Laurent__ what do you need? [21:19] ohh they left.. [21:20] anyone know why CCSM Wobbly Windows doesn't work on 10.10? [21:20] Can I have some help on updating from 6.1 to 8.04 ? [21:22] you might want 10.04 or 10.10 instead... [21:22] I already have a CD burned with 8.04. [21:23] it wouldn't be at all hard to get one with 10.04 or 10.10... [21:23] 8.04 is very outdated now [21:23] It looks liked 6.1 is too old to be updated from the net. [21:24] It have lots of error messages saying archives not found [21:24] install 10.04 over i? [21:24] it* [21:24] How can I do it ? [21:25] are you dual booting? [21:25] no [21:25] I only have 6.1 on the PC [21:26] then just backup all your files that you care about on a USB and install 10.04 or 10.10 over it [21:27] To do this I need a new CD with 10.10 ? [21:28] I have an old Compaq EVO N600C. It looks like it doesn't want to boot on CD. [21:29] get a USB stick to boot off of. [21:30] I alreday tried to boot from USB Stick. I could not find that option in the PC setup menu. [21:30] then you boot off of CD... [21:31] are you sure you are in the right menu? [21:31] I think so. I can choose between booting from net, hard drive or multibay. [21:32] Don't really know what multibay is. [21:32] LA_LA, multibay is probably the CD Drive [21:33] When I choose this option the CD starts turning but stops after a while and boots from hard drive [21:35] LA_LA, you can update 6.10 from the net [21:35] it's just not as easy [21:36] Can you direct me to something like a tutorial explaining hhow ? [21:37] I may be able to help [21:38] Great. Thanks What should I do ? [21:38] does anyone know how to get minefield to work on maverick? [21:39] tronyx, ohai [21:40] LA_LA, the idea will be to upgrade 6.10->7.04->7.10->8.04->10.04 [21:41] LA_LA, it will take a while [21:41] temposs, when I try to go 6.1->7.04 it tells lots of archives can't be found [21:41] LA_LA, I know, because they've moved the files to another server [21:42] where all of the old releases are kept [21:42] so you have to manually change the URL that it's looking in [21:42] Ok. I understand [21:43] What is the new URL and where do I have to change it ? [21:43] LA_LA, first, do the command: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [21:44] temposs: may want to make a backup of that file prior to editing ;) [21:44] stlsaint, good idea :-) [21:44] sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old (or .bak) [21:45] LA_LA, use stlsaint's command to make a backup for your sources.list [21:45] before we start in [21:45]