| c2tarun | can anyone help me with patch command, following is my difference file http://paste.ubuntu.com/533703/. | 02:52 |
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| c2tarun | can anyone help me with patch command, following is my difference file http://paste.ubuntu.com/533703/ | 02:52 |
| poolie | c2tarun: you want to know how to apply this diff? | 02:55 |
| c2tarun | ya | 02:56 |
| c2tarun | actually i tried to use 'patch -p0 < file.diff' but get this error: patch: **** Only garbage was found in the patch input. | 02:58 |
| c2tarun | poolie: actually i tried to use 'patch -p0 < file.diff' but get this error: patch: **** Only garbage was found in the patch input. | 02:58 |
| poolie | how about if you add the -e option? | 03:00 |
| c2tarun | sorry i tried patch -e, -e0 | 03:01 |
| c2tarun | both not working | 03:01 |
| c2tarun | with -e i m getting the same error | 03:01 |
| poolie | do you know where this file came from? | 03:02 |
| c2tarun | i created this file using diff file.old file.new > file.diff | 03:02 |
| c2tarun | i also have both my files | 03:02 |
| poolie | is there any reason you don't want to use diff -u? | 03:03 |
| c2tarun | actually i knew that it only adds line numbers to the diff file and i read that patch should work with all the difference files created by diff | 03:05 |
| poolie | you should use -u | 03:05 |
| c2tarun | ok can u just wait for a moment, let me try | 03:07 |
| c2tarun | hey i worked, but still i m not able to understand the output ( i mean what patch did), can u please explain me the output. if u want i can send u both old and new file. | 03:09 |
| micahg | tumbleweed: are you taking care of SpamapS's mongodb SRU for lucid | 03:52 |
| abudawud | can anyone tell me if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/597728 is already packaged... Please excuse the terrible new guy | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | abudawud: yes, it's in natty | 04:02 |
| abudawud | ajmitch, why is the bug still open if you don't mind? :) | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | because the uploader of the package didn't mention the ubuntu bug in the changelog when it was uploaded to debian. | 04:05 |
| * ajmitch has closed it now | 04:05 | |
| abudawud | thanks, at least I got some easy experience messing with the packaging tools | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | as it was in progress, and the comments linked to a site with the package, you could assume that there was a package for it :) | 04:07 |
| abudawud | how can a fella like me easily find projects that need packaging? | 04:07 |
| ajmitch | you could search for open bugs with that tag | 04:08 |
| abudawud | well thats how I found where I am now, and it appears every one of these I have opened thusfar is not really in need of packaging | 04:08 |
| micahg | abudawud: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/prospective | 04:09 |
| micahg | abudawud: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=needs-packaging <-- in status new | 04:10 |
| micahg | or triaged | 04:10 |
| abudawud | micahg, awesome, thanks | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | also, check that it's not included already - it's quite likely that bugs won't get closed if it was synced from debian | 04:11 |
| abudawud | ajmitch, by 'included' you mean the .deb is already linked somewhere in the bug page correct? | 04:12 |
| abudawud | or attached | 04:12 |
| ajmitch | abudawud: I mean in ubuntu already, though checking comments of a bug is also important | 04:12 |
| abudawud | ajmitch, maybe I should just wait on a response to my mentor request before I go around tearing things up :) | 04:14 |
| abudawud | another stupid question, for a package that is new to Ubuntu, would the version always start at 0.0.1? | 04:25 |
| micahg | abudawud: there are no stupid questions, the version depends on the version of the software, not when it enters the distro | 04:28 |
| abudawud | well the dev just labeled it with the python revision it pertained to, so theres a '2.6' and a '3.0' version | 04:29 |
| micahg | abudawud: link to upstream? | 04:40 |
| abudawud | http://code.google.com/p/python-ntlm/ | 04:41 |
| micahg | abudawud: I don't see any releases | 04:43 |
| abudawud | nor do I in retrospect. These bugs are confusing me. I think I'll move on to upgrading packages instead | 04:43 |
| abudawud | if a developer made changes to a revision of their software and their changelog, how do I merge their changelog into the debian/changelog with their signature? | 05:03 |
| micahg | abudawud: that's not what usually goes in a Debian changelog | 05:36 |
| abudawud | so the actual developers changes don't go in there? | 05:37 |
| micahg | abudawud: no, it's usually packaging changes or references to bug fixes | 05:38 |
| abudawud | micahg, the entire rest of the file is full of his bugfixes, I just was unsure if I should just do a New upstream version | 05:39 |
| micahg | abudawud: what package? | 05:39 |
| abudawud | hedgewars | 05:39 |
| abudawud | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hedgewars/+bug/675035 | 05:39 |
| micahg | abudawud: I think you should just let him update in Debian | 05:41 |
| micahg | which would happen after squeeze is releases | 05:42 |
| micahg | fabrice_sp: hi, what IRC client are you using? | 05:44 |
| fabrice_sp | Hi micahg : xchat | 05:44 |
| fabrice_sp | why? Something wierd happens each time I connect? | 05:44 |
| micahg | fabrice_sp: join then auth | 05:45 |
| fabrice_sp | let me check the configuration then | 05:45 |
| fabrice_sp | this channel is in auto-join, so not sure | 05:45 |
| micahg | abudawud: that bug is fixed in Natty BTW | 05:46 |
| micahg | fabrice_sp: I see it happen often, so I'll file a bug later :) | 05:46 |
| abudawud | abudawud, I don't get why I can't see when things are fixed. How are you finding this? | 05:47 |
| abudawud | micahg, | 05:47 |
| micahg | abudawud: rmadison? | 05:48 |
| micahg | abudawud: or you can click on the source package name and see what versions are in LP for it | 05:48 |
| micahg | in teh breadcrumb, not the bug task | 05:48 |
| abudawud | ah got it, over to code from bugs | 05:49 |
| abudawud | thanks micahg | 05:49 |
| micahg | nxvl: hi, can you hop in -mozillateam for a minute? | 05:49 |
| abudawud | is there a better way to start helping here? Apparently I'm a pretty huge derp | 05:50 |
| micahg | abudawud: no, just to the main section | 05:50 |
| fabrice_sp | micahg, I can't see any way of doing it differently at xchat options elvel, so a bug report is required :-) | 05:51 |
| fabrice_sp | s/elvel/level/ | 05:51 |
| fabrice_sp | micahg, shouldn't we unsubscribe sponsors when working on a bug for sponsoring (like 676758)? IIRC, this is what ack-sync do, but I don't remember if it's by policy or not | 06:14 |
| fabrice_sp | found that wiki page that seems to say so: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Sponsorship/SponsorsQueue | 06:16 |
| Rhonda | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_87 | 07:57 |
| dholbach | good morning! | 08:02 |
| ajmitch | morning dholbach | 08:03 |
| dholbach | hi ajmitch | 08:03 |
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| tumbleweed | micahg: will do, I commented on it last night, waiting for SpamapS to answer. I'm hoping it won't FTBFS on the buildds, can't see why it is in PPAs | 08:38 |
| c2tarun | hi friends, can anyone please tell me the difference between schroot and debootstrapchroot | 08:39 |
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| c2tarun | hi friends, can anyone please tell me the difference between schroot and debootstrapchroot | 08:42 |
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| Rhonda | ouch, the german translation of the ubuntu single sign on is … looks like debian-l10n-german did it. %-/ | 12:14 |
| geser | that good? | 12:20 |
| Rhonda | geser: http://deb.at/~rhonda/sarcasm.png | 12:22 |
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| c2tarun | can anyone explain me the difference between schroot and debootstrap?? | 13:48 |
| c2tarun | can anyone please explain me the difference between schroot and debootstrap?? | 13:50 |
| Rhonda | debootstrap creates what schroot can use. | 13:50 |
| Rhonda | debootstrap actually installs a base system for a given distribution into a specified path. With schroot you can use that to work in a different distribution than what your main system runs. | 13:51 |
| c2tarun | what i read is debootstrap is something that creates a chroot environment that acts as jail out of which an application cannoot go... am i wrong??? | 13:53 |
| Rhonda | The "acts as" part is wrong. :) | 13:53 |
| Rhonda | What it creates can be seen as chroot environment indeed. But actually it just does install a base system into a directory. For whatever purpose that might be. | 13:54 |
| c2tarun | what do we mean by base system here?? | 13:55 |
| Rhonda | Basic libraries and tools. | 13:55 |
| Rhonda | Including dpkg and apt. | 13:56 |
| c2tarun | can u please give me some examples, i m not still getting it. :( | 13:57 |
| c2tarun | u still there rhonda?? | 14:00 |
| joaopinto | c2tarun, deboostrap is a base system installer | 14:09 |
| joaopinto | chroot is s jail like system | 14:09 |
| joaopinto | for testing/building purposes it is common to use both | 14:10 |
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| c2tarun | hey i was in a discussion on debootstrap but got disconnected... :( | 15:02 |
| c2tarun | can anyone guide me to some examples on debootstrap?? | 15:02 |
| c2tarun | i read on the internet and found that debootstrap can be used to install GNU/Linux into a directory. can i do use debootstrap to install ubuntu lucid on my friends system which has winxp installed on it?? | 15:06 |
| joaopinto | c2tarun, no, debootstrap is only available for linux | 15:10 |
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| c2tarun | i was reading this page: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/426 they used there chroot to lock into a directory, is schroot and chroot are same/? | 15:21 |
| c2tarun | joaopinto: i was reading this page: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/426 they used there chroot to lock into a directory, is schroot and chroot are same/? | 15:26 |
| joaopinto | schroot is an utility which makes it easier to use chroot | 15:29 |
| joaopinto | schroot uses chroot | 15:29 |
| c2tarun | ok maybe after using chroot i may understand schroot in better way. according to you what should i use first for my learning ??? | 15:31 |
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| c2tarun | one more thing please, i just googled and found Sarge is one whole debian operating system, dont want to do that much of installation as i m just trying to learn, is it ok to install some application from the repositories??? how can i do that?? | 15:37 |
| c2tarun | can anyone please reply to my last two posts plz :( | 16:10 |
| joaopinto | c2tarun, Sarge is not a whole OS, it's the codename for a Debian release, using deboostrap will just install you a base system, not the entire repository contents | 16:18 |
| c2tarun | one more thing please, can i use debootstrap to install some application from the repositories??? how can i do that?? | 16:25 |
| c2tarun | http://paste.ubuntu.com/533909/ | 16:28 |
| c2tarun | joaopinto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/533909/ | 16:28 |
| joaopinto | c2tarun, you can schroot into your deboostrapped environment to install applications from the repositories, yes | 16:39 |
| c2tarun | joaopinto: so first i have to create a ubuntu environment by debootstrap and then install an application there and then i can perform my experiments??? one last thing... i m sorry to ask but please tell me how to create the debootstrap environment for ubuntu?? | 16:42 |
| joaopinto | c2tarun, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot | 16:42 |
| ari-tczew | achiang: could you look at gimp? it's ftbfs, maybe you can fix it :) | 17:30 |
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| achiang | ari-tczew: i'll take a quick look, but i do have my day job to contend with. :) | 17:59 |
| ari-tczew | sure achiang | 18:00 |
| BlackZ | achiang: I have a proposed fix for it | 18:00 |
| ari-tczew | oh, nice | 18:00 |
| achiang | BlackZ: ok, good. looks like it should be pretty simple too | 18:01 |
| * achiang goes back to wrestling with pulseaudio | 18:01 | |
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| Joelito | good day all | 18:56 |
| Joelito | I have two questions | 18:56 |
| Joelito | 1.- When I made my own makefile to compile my program, how to use it to debuild? | 18:56 |
| Joelito | I don't want to use dh_make | 18:57 |
| c2tarun | i just set up a chroot environment of hardy into my lucid, is it possible to boot into that chroot environment?? | 19:17 |
| persia | c2tarun, How did you set up the chroot? (The answer is probably "No", but there is a chance) | 19:22 |
| c2tarun | persia: i set up by this command => sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 hardy /var/chroot/hardy http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ | 19:23 |
| persia | What is the backing store for /var/chroot/hardy? | 19:23 |
| c2tarun | sorry its my first time, i m not aware of this term | 19:24 |
| _ruben | is it on a seperate partition/logical volume? | 19:24 |
| persia | Joelito, http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/08/is-packaging-new-software-hard.html is one of the simplest outlines of how to not use dh_make I've seen. | 19:25 |
| c2tarun | no its in the same partition, i thought of first setting it up in separate partition but then i thought that partitions are not mounted automatically so if i did so it'll be impossible to boot into it | 19:25 |
| Joelito | thanks persia, I'll look | 19:26 |
| persia | c2tarun, Actually, having it a separate partition would mean you could install a kernel on it, and then fiddle your bootloader. With it in a regular directory you'd probably have to export it with NBD or NFS or something, and then boot *another* computer over the network (assuming the bootloader on the other computer supported whatever protocol you export) | 19:26 |
| _ruben | or just chroot into it, which obviously isn't The Real Thing (tm) ;) | 19:27 |
| persia | c2tarun, So, this brings a related question: why do you want to boot that? What are you trying to accomplish? | 19:28 |
| c2tarun | actually i was trying to translate gnome menus into my native language as my college project. For that i needed another operating system on my laptop. i tried virtual machine but didn't like it. then while reading packaging i found debootstrap. i read about it and in ubuntuforum a guy told me that we can also boot into the environment | 19:29 |
| c2tarun | as it is my first time, i setup the chroot env not i can lock to it but its not something i wanted. i want to boot into the system. perform some experiments and then remove it. | 19:30 |
| persia | It's true that you can, but it's complicated. For the purposes of translation, a chroot is likely sufficient. | 19:30 |
| c2tarun | persia: but how can i see the gnome menus without booting into it?? | 19:31 |
| persia | _ruben, Do you have a good pointer to running X in a chroot? I generally just use `schroot -p ...` which isn't sufficient for this. | 19:33 |
| c2tarun | wow... can we run X into chroot without booting into it?? | 19:34 |
| persia | Absolutely. Some stuff works a bit different (different kernel, etc.), but the menus and most translatable GUI applications work normally. | 19:35 |
| _ruben | never really tried actually .. it wouldn't surprise that with a properly setup /dev /proc etc, you could just start (an extra) X server from within the chroot | 19:36 |
| c2tarun | u talked about some pointer for X. i didnot get it. can u enlighten me a bit please... | 19:36 |
| _ruben | hm, now that i think of it some more, that'd probably not work due to kernel (abi/api) incompatibilities | 19:37 |
| _ruben | vritualization might not be ideal, but i do think it's most appropriate here | 19:37 |
| ebroder | persia, _ruben: You probably want to use Xnest or something, but I don't know how to make it work | 19:38 |
| persia | ebroder, Yeah, probably. The tricky bit is getting all the bindings right, including the special DBUS magic, for which I'm not finding any comprehensive document just now. | 19:39 |
| c2tarun | persia, _ruben: check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot | 19:40 |
| c2tarun | goto topic 5 in the index | 19:41 |
| persia | c2tarun, That doesn't bind-mount /sys/ or set up the DBUS channels, but it's 90% of what you need, and might be enough, depending. | 19:43 |
| c2tarun | ok, i m not getting few things... in setting up the chroot.. they mounted proc??? what does it mean.. | 19:43 |
| persia | Does anyone have time to take a quick look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~persia/packages/devicetype-detect_0.01.dsc ? I believe it's clean, but want a second pair of eyes before I upload. | 19:55 |
| persia | (well, it's potentially buggy, but I believe there only to be upstream bugs) | 19:56 |
| ebroder | persia: There's some weird spacing in the description | 19:59 |
| ebroder | persia: I generally consider having to use dh_dirs to be a deficiency in the upstream build system. Why not do a mkdir -p in the install target? | 20:00 |
| persia | ebroder, Because it's better to pass -d to install :) Thanks for catching that. The spaces are troff's fault, but definitely deserve to be fixed. | 20:01 |
| ebroder | persia: That's all I see in the packaging. The VERSION handling makes me twitch a little, but it's not like I haven't done worse things before | 20:02 |
| ebroder | (And I can appreciate the desire to only have a one canonical location for the version number) | 20:03 |
| persia | ebroder, That's pulled direct from laptop-detect. I don't know another way to do it unless I don't do a native package (and yes, I know non-native is better, etc.) | 20:04 |
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