| micahg | hi nxvl | 05:50 |
|---|---|---|
| nxvl | hello | 05:50 |
| micahg | I forget what I'm supposed to do with bugs with oem versions | 05:50 |
| micahg | s/with/for | 05:50 |
| nxvl | the only change in those packages is branding stuff | 05:51 |
| nxvl | if the issue is not in the branding stuff is a firefox/package issue | 05:51 |
| nxvl | so treath it as a normal bug | 05:51 |
| micahg | nxvl: right, but I don't know what version they have in their repo | 05:51 |
| nxvl | as in, we changed 'A Web Browser' for 'Web Browser' | 05:51 |
| nxvl | that's basically the only delta | 05:51 |
| nxvl | what's the bug number? | 05:52 |
| * micahg can't find it right now due to the computer doing too much (I need that kernel patch applies :)) | 05:52 | |
| nxvl | ok, from now on, we can do this: please subscribe to the bug with the questions you have i will comment with the oem-specific info you need an everyone happy | 05:53 |
| nxvl | :D | 05:53 |
| nxvl | sounds good? | 05:53 |
| micahg | nxvl: subscribe you? | 05:54 |
| nxvl | yup | 05:54 |
| nxvl | so i get it in my bugmail and can take a look | 05:54 |
| micahg | nxvl: ok, sounds good, I thought I remembered a project that a task should be added for | 05:54 |
| micahg | like we do with translations | 05:54 |
| nxvl | i don't know about such project, but i can figure out in the morning (it's about 1 am here) | 05:55 |
| micahg | nxvl: oh, ok, I'm an hour behind you :) | 05:55 |
| nxvl | will check with you tomorrow then | 05:56 |
| nxvl | :D | 05:56 |
| nxvl | have a good night | 05:56 |
| micahg | nxvl: thanks, you too | 05:56 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: hi! so I'm thinking you probably know that when I upgraded to ff4 this morning that various languages and the ubufox had to be disabled? | 13:29 |
| jdstrand | heh 'the ubufox' | 13:29 |
| jdstrand | the ubufox extension | 13:29 |
| Dimmuxx | Is it just me or is flash more or less broken in daily 4.0 builds? Some movies doesn't start to play when you press play for example | 13:36 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, yeah, we don't have new language packs yet, and i'm still waiting for asac to review my ubufox changes :) | 14:09 |
| Dimmuxx | can somebody on 4.0 daily test this movie and see if it starts to play or not http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/multi-touch-in-ubuntu-using-kinect-video-ppa/ | 14:37 |
| chrisccoulson | Dimmuxx, plays fine here | 14:42 |
| Dimmuxx | chrisccoulson: 64bit with 64bit flash? | 14:42 |
| jdstrand_ | chrisccoulson: so, entering text into a textbox on ff4 is slow (eg, moin wiki). have you noticed this? | 14:43 |
| === jdstrand_ is now known as jdstrand | ||
| chrisccoulson | Dimmuxx, yes | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, i haven't noticed that before | 14:44 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: try entering something like this, typing by hand: | 14:44 |
| jdstrand | ==== title ==== | 14:44 |
| jdstrand | * here is some stuff:{{{ | 14:44 |
| jdstrand | blah | 14:44 |
| jdstrand | blah | 14:44 |
| jdstrand | }}} | 14:44 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, it's working ok here | 14:45 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: especially after hitting return, but it is like I can type faster than firefox can handle it, and I shouldn't be that fast | 14:45 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, hang on, i should try the b7 build | 14:45 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: this is whatever is in natty proper | 14:45 |
| Dimmuxx | chrisccoulson: okay, I wonder what's up with my profile then | 14:45 |
| * jdstrand wonders if is is spell checking and if it has something to do with the disabled language packs | 14:46 | |
| * eagles0513875 waves to jstrand | 14:46 | |
| jdstrand | hey eagles0513875 :) | 14:46 |
| eagles0513875 | can i ask you a thunderbird in general questino | 14:46 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, it's working ok here in the natty build too. do you have spellchecking on then? | 14:46 |
| eagles0513875 | actually you mind if i pm you jdstrand cuz its a bit os offtopic | 14:47 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i have spellchecking on here | 14:47 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I don't think I ever did that explicitly, but it certainly was on at one point | 14:47 |
| Dimmuxx | It doesn't work on my 32bit netbook either so probably some extension that is causing it | 14:47 |
| jdstrand | eagles0513875: well, you can, but I am not really a thunderbird specialist. I don't even use it for my own email | 14:48 |
| eagles0513875 | i know gnomefreak does but hes not around ill ask in mozilla no worries m8 :) | 14:48 |
| Dimmuxx | it seems noscript is the problem | 14:50 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I do have spell checking on, but it makes no difference if I disable it | 14:53 |
| ari-tczew | chrisccoulson, jdstrand, micahg: thanks for firefox 4.0! | 14:58 |
| * jdstrand points to chrisccoulson and micahg | 14:59 | |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: oh, all my scroll wheel doesn't work in firefox 4.0, but it does in other applications. I don't recall if this worked in 3.6.12 in natty, but I can say I noticed it today after upgrading to 4.0 | 15:51 |
| jdstrand | s/all/and/ | 15:51 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, hmmm, that works here :/ | 15:51 |
| jdstrand | it isn't an exotic mouse. usb logitech | 15:52 |
| jdstrand | oh wait, I may be a doofus | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i just use a usb logitech as well. that's strange | 15:52 |
| chrisccoulson | heh ;) | 15:53 |
| jdstrand | ok, it mostly works | 15:53 |
| jdstrand | if ff has focus it works, if not it doesn't | 15:53 |
| jdstrand | evolution (for example) just needs mouse over to work | 15:54 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, all applications need focus, else they won't receive the events from X | 15:54 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: can you confirm that? ^ | 15:54 |
| chrisccoulson | do you have "focus follows mouse"? | 15:54 |
| jdstrand | no | 15:54 |
| jdstrand | just a regular ubuntu desktop | 15:55 |
| chrisccoulson | that's odd. that shouldn't work for evolution then, unless the window manager is giving it focus | 15:55 |
| jdstrand | I'm telling you, evo is behind ff right no and if I mouse over the part I can see, I can use the scroll wheel | 15:55 |
| chrisccoulson | that should only be possible with focus-follows-mouse enabled :/ | 15:56 |
| jdstrand | I'm pretty sure this worked before... I can try maverick vm | 15:56 |
| jdstrand | works in tomboy too | 15:56 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: I am not saying that evo or tomboy have focus, just that they are receiving the mouse scroll wheel input | 15:57 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: ie, evo and tomboy aren't brought into focus or anything. maybe it is a compiz thing... | 15:57 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that sounds odd. they shouldn't be able to get events if they don't have focus | 15:57 |
| chrisccoulson | that's bad ;) | 15:57 |
| jdstrand | I think you mean 'convenient' | 15:58 |
| chrisccoulson | that means something else could get events if, say, gksu has focus ;) | 15:58 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: this is how it is in lucid | 15:58 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i see now | 15:59 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: eg, start a lucid vm, start ff and go to www.mozilla.org. start gedit. make sure gedit has the focus. put mouse over firefox and move scroll wheel | 15:59 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, applications need focus to reveive keyboard events ;) | 15:59 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: yes, definitely | 15:59 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: so the above works with 3.6 but not 4.0 | 16:00 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, that still works here though (i just changed my WM settings back to default) | 16:00 |
| jdstrand | I only use 'normal desktop effects' or whatever it is called | 16:01 |
| jdstrand | I'll try in a guest session | 16:01 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: heh, well, firefox won't start ina guest session | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, that's not good. do you get any console output? | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | (that might be due to the profile migrator, which will run on the first time, to see if there are any other profiles laying around) | 16:03 |
| chrisccoulson | which would be my fault if that crashes ;) | 16:04 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: there was a traceback having to do with the profile migrator | 16:04 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: something about not finding /tmp/guest-home.AE63uP/.mozilla | 16:05 |
| jdstrand | (python traceback) | 16:05 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/533901/ | 16:07 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: so if I create that directory, I can launch firefox | 16:09 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: also, in the guest session the mouseover scroll wheel works, but I noticed that the guest session uses metacity, not compiz | 16:10 |
| jdstrand | (I use compiz) | 16:10 |
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, oh, that's a bit of an oversight on my part (the profile migrator failing if ~/.mozilla doesn't exist) | 16:22 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, i'll fix that one later | 16:22 |
| chrisccoulson | so, it sounds like your problem is more likely to be a WM issue ;) | 16:22 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: yeah, I went to non-compiz, removed my ~/.compiz folder, upgraded to compiz...ubuntu3 then reenabled desktop effects and it is working | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | go figure | 16:37 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| chrisccoulson | jdstrand, that's ok then :) | 17:31 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: that said, I still see the problems with the slow textarea in moin. I noticed that the textarea is only slow if the page is very large | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll fix the non-starting issue later and do another upload | 17:32 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: eg, a page with 1600 lines of text is very slow when you press 'Enter' at the top of the textarea | 17:34 |
| jdstrand | s/page/textarea/ | 17:34 |
| jdstrand | so it may be related in how ff4 updates the textarea | 17:34 |
| jdstrand | during editing | 17:35 |
| gnomefreak | xul192 xul20 are still broken in Natty | 17:40 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ^^ | 17:42 |
| gnomefreak | 1.9.2.13~hg20101108r34732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd2 isnt installing but the PPA sasys 1.9.2.13~hg20101117r34750+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 built | 17:46 |
| gnomefreak | s/sasys/says | 17:46 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: can you purge the old xulrunner packages? | 17:47 |
| gnomefreak | im guessing the new version hasnt hit archives | 17:48 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: you mean sudo apt-get remove --purge xulrunner-1.9.2 | 17:49 |
| gnomefreak | xulrunner-1.9.2: Installed: 1.9.2.13~hg20101108r34732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd2 Candidate: 1.9.2.13~hg20101108r34732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd2 | 17:50 |
| gnomefreak | that is the output of policy after running apt-get update | 17:50 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: so xul192 still FTBFS | 17:50 |
| micahg | but xul20 should work | 17:50 |
| gnomefreak | it built from what the PPA page says | 17:51 |
| gnomefreak | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa says 1.9.2.13~hg20101117r34750+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 is built | 17:52 |
| gnomefreak | 12 hours ago | 17:52 |
| micahg | huh? | 17:53 |
| micahg | that's not what I see | 17:53 |
| gnomefreak | 2.0 still fails to configure | 17:54 |
| gnomefreak | xulrunner-1.9.2 1.9.2.13~hg20101117r34750+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1Fabien Tassin (12 hours ago) | 17:55 |
| gnomefreak | that is c+p from daily PPA | 17:55 |
| gnomefreak | policy isnt showing the current built versions from PPA. maybe 12 hours isnt enough time? | 17:58 |
| gnomefreak | ill be back. im going to start the updates and just ^C when it gets to xul* than i guess --configure to get the other packages | 18:04 |
| gnomefreak | policy isnt showing thunderbird-2.1.7 but its built on PPA site from 2010-11-17 this is weird | 18:07 |
| gnomefreak | but lets see what happens | 18:07 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I show both those builds failing | 18:07 |
| gnomefreak | i see 2.0 failed and ff4.0 failed | 18:08 |
| gnomefreak | looking at the right hand side of page | 18:08 |
| gnomefreak | ill be back i need a smoke | 18:11 |
| chrisccoulson | is tabs on top default in b7? | 19:03 |
| Al_5 | "The beta also brings the Firefox 4 theming overhaul to Linux, including the new tab position above the address bar." < ars technica | 19:32 |
| Al_5 | on beta 7 | 19:33 |
| Al_5 | chrisccoulson: "Tabs are now on top by default on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux" https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/4.0b7/releasenotes/ | 19:34 |
| chrisccoulson | Al_5, thanks. i wasn't sure, because I put them on top myself ages ago, and I didn't want to start a new profile ;) | 19:36 |
| Al_5 | :) | 19:36 |
| debfx | chrisccoulson: should I open a new merge request against the 4.0 or trunk branch? | 21:29 |
| * [reed] grumbles at ubuntu's slowness | 22:00 | |
| micahg | debfx: trunk please, needs daily testing | 22:04 |
| micahg | [reed]: what's wrong? | 22:04 |
| [reed] | micahg: bug 650539 has made my maverick upgrade unbearable | 22:05 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 650539 in xorg (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 6 other projects) "Launching QT apps under Xinerama crashes Xorg : affects SpeedCrunch, KeePassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, Skype, Google Earth, VLC, Konqueror, VirtualBox, Opera ... (affects: 82) (dups: 9) (heat: 492)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650539 | 22:05 |
| micahg | [reed]: looks like there is a fix for it | 22:06 |
| [reed] | yes | 22:06 |
| [reed] | I'm rebuilding xorg now | 22:06 |
| [reed] | archlinux found the problem 3+ weeks ago | 22:06 |
| [reed] | and upstream has committed the fix as well | 22:07 |
| micahg | [reed]: well, idk what needs to be done as far as xorg update testing | 22:08 |
| [reed] | I found RAOF in #ubuntu-devel | 22:08 |
| [reed] | poking him about it now | 22:08 |
| micahg | ok | 22:09 |
| chrisccoulson | grrr, my cats are so stupid | 22:14 |
| Al_5 | lol | 22:14 |
| chrisccoulson | i wonder if my gf would notice if i just got rid of them ;) | 22:15 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: hey | 22:15 |
| chrisccoulson | hi mdeslaur! | 22:15 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, want 2 cats? ;) | 22:16 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: you think they're stupid because you don't understand them :) | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 22:16 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: I already have two, thanks :P | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson | i used to like them until my daughter was born | 22:16 |
| mdeslaur | oh, yeah | 22:16 |
| chrisccoulson | and now they just annoy me ;) | 22:16 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, do you know if the load issue has already been reported? | 23:32 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - load issue? | 23:33 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, the unexpected load issue we talked about a few days afo | 23:33 |
| fta | ago | 23:33 |
| fta | with 0% cpu | 23:33 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, i remember now :) | 23:34 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't think that's been reported, but i'm not too sure | 23:34 |
| fta | there are new kernels almost everyday, but their changelogs suck | 23:34 |
| chrisccoulson | ooh, my loadavg is 1.41 ;) | 23:34 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i never try to follow kernel changes ;) | 23:35 |
| * micahg had a load >10 last night :-/ | 23:35 | |
| fta | yeah, mine is ~1 too, it makes mplayer & pulse glitch | 23:35 |
| fta | that's far from http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1 | 23:37 |
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