[05:50] hi nxvl [05:50] hello [05:50] I forget what I'm supposed to do with bugs with oem versions [05:50] s/with/for [05:51] the only change in those packages is branding stuff [05:51] if the issue is not in the branding stuff is a firefox/package issue [05:51] so treath it as a normal bug [05:51] nxvl: right, but I don't know what version they have in their repo [05:51] as in, we changed 'A Web Browser' for 'Web Browser' [05:51] that's basically the only delta [05:52] what's the bug number? [05:52] * micahg can't find it right now due to the computer doing too much (I need that kernel patch applies :)) [05:53] ok, from now on, we can do this: please subscribe to the bug with the questions you have i will comment with the oem-specific info you need an everyone happy [05:53] :D [05:53] sounds good? [05:54] nxvl: subscribe you? [05:54] yup [05:54] so i get it in my bugmail and can take a look [05:54] nxvl: ok, sounds good, I thought I remembered a project that a task should be added for [05:54] like we do with translations [05:55] i don't know about such project, but i can figure out in the morning (it's about 1 am here) [05:55] nxvl: oh, ok, I'm an hour behind you :) [05:56] will check with you tomorrow then [05:56] :D [05:56] have a good night [05:56] nxvl: thanks, you too [13:29] chrisccoulson: hi! so I'm thinking you probably know that when I upgraded to ff4 this morning that various languages and the ubufox had to be disabled? [13:29] heh 'the ubufox' [13:29] the ubufox extension [13:36] Is it just me or is flash more or less broken in daily 4.0 builds? Some movies doesn't start to play when you press play for example [14:09] jdstrand, yeah, we don't have new language packs yet, and i'm still waiting for asac to review my ubufox changes :) [14:37] can somebody on 4.0 daily test this movie and see if it starts to play or not http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/multi-touch-in-ubuntu-using-kinect-video-ppa/ [14:42] Dimmuxx, plays fine here [14:42] chrisccoulson: 64bit with 64bit flash? [14:43] chrisccoulson: so, entering text into a textbox on ff4 is slow (eg, moin wiki). have you noticed this? === jdstrand_ is now known as jdstrand [14:43] Dimmuxx, yes [14:44] jdstrand, i haven't noticed that before [14:44] chrisccoulson: try entering something like this, typing by hand: [14:44] ==== title ==== [14:44] * here is some stuff:{{{ [14:44] blah [14:44] blah [14:44] }}} [14:45] jdstrand, it's working ok here [14:45] chrisccoulson: especially after hitting return, but it is like I can type faster than firefox can handle it, and I shouldn't be that fast [14:45] oh, hang on, i should try the b7 build [14:45] chrisccoulson: this is whatever is in natty proper [14:45] chrisccoulson: okay, I wonder what's up with my profile then [14:46] * jdstrand wonders if is is spell checking and if it has something to do with the disabled language packs [14:46] * eagles0513875 waves to jstrand [14:46] hey eagles0513875 :) [14:46] can i ask you a thunderbird in general questino [14:46] jdstrand, it's working ok here in the natty build too. do you have spellchecking on then? [14:47] actually you mind if i pm you jdstrand cuz its a bit os offtopic [14:47] oh, i have spellchecking on here [14:47] chrisccoulson: I don't think I ever did that explicitly, but it certainly was on at one point [14:47] It doesn't work on my 32bit netbook either so probably some extension that is causing it [14:48] eagles0513875: well, you can, but I am not really a thunderbird specialist. I don't even use it for my own email [14:48] i know gnomefreak does but hes not around ill ask in mozilla no worries m8 :) [14:50] it seems noscript is the problem [14:53] chrisccoulson: I do have spell checking on, but it makes no difference if I disable it [14:58] chrisccoulson, jdstrand, micahg: thanks for firefox 4.0! [14:59] * jdstrand points to chrisccoulson and micahg [15:51] chrisccoulson: oh, all my scroll wheel doesn't work in firefox 4.0, but it does in other applications. I don't recall if this worked in 3.6.12 in natty, but I can say I noticed it today after upgrading to 4.0 [15:51] s/all/and/ [15:51] jdstrand, hmmm, that works here :/ [15:52] it isn't an exotic mouse. usb logitech [15:52] oh wait, I may be a doofus [15:52] yeah, i just use a usb logitech as well. that's strange [15:53] heh ;) [15:53] ok, it mostly works [15:53] if ff has focus it works, if not it doesn't [15:54] evolution (for example) just needs mouse over to work [15:54] hmmm, all applications need focus, else they won't receive the events from X [15:54] chrisccoulson: can you confirm that? ^ [15:54] do you have "focus follows mouse"? [15:54] no [15:55] just a regular ubuntu desktop [15:55] that's odd. that shouldn't work for evolution then, unless the window manager is giving it focus [15:55] I'm telling you, evo is behind ff right no and if I mouse over the part I can see, I can use the scroll wheel [15:56] that should only be possible with focus-follows-mouse enabled :/ [15:56] I'm pretty sure this worked before... I can try maverick vm [15:56] works in tomboy too [15:57] chrisccoulson: I am not saying that evo or tomboy have focus, just that they are receiving the mouse scroll wheel input [15:57] chrisccoulson: ie, evo and tomboy aren't brought into focus or anything. maybe it is a compiz thing... [15:57] yeah, that sounds odd. they shouldn't be able to get events if they don't have focus [15:57] that's bad ;) [15:58] I think you mean 'convenient' [15:58] that means something else could get events if, say, gksu has focus ;) [15:58] chrisccoulson: this is how it is in lucid [15:59] oh, i see now [15:59] chrisccoulson: eg, start a lucid vm, start ff and go to www.mozilla.org. start gedit. make sure gedit has the focus. put mouse over firefox and move scroll wheel [15:59] ok, applications need focus to reveive keyboard events ;) [15:59] chrisccoulson: yes, definitely [16:00] chrisccoulson: so the above works with 3.6 but not 4.0 [16:00] hmmm, that still works here though (i just changed my WM settings back to default) [16:01] I only use 'normal desktop effects' or whatever it is called [16:01] I'll try in a guest session [16:03] chrisccoulson: heh, well, firefox won't start ina guest session [16:03] oh, that's not good. do you get any console output? [16:03] (that might be due to the profile migrator, which will run on the first time, to see if there are any other profiles laying around) [16:04] which would be my fault if that crashes ;) [16:04] chrisccoulson: there was a traceback having to do with the profile migrator [16:05] chrisccoulson: something about not finding /tmp/guest-home.AE63uP/.mozilla [16:05] (python traceback) [16:07] chrisccoulson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/533901/ [16:09] chrisccoulson: so if I create that directory, I can launch firefox [16:10] chrisccoulson: also, in the guest session the mouseover scroll wheel works, but I noticed that the guest session uses metacity, not compiz [16:10] (I use compiz) [16:22] jdstrand, oh, that's a bit of an oversight on my part (the profile migrator failing if ~/.mozilla doesn't exist) [16:22] heh, i'll fix that one later [16:22] so, it sounds like your problem is more likely to be a WM issue ;) [16:37] chrisccoulson: yeah, I went to non-compiz, removed my ~/.compiz folder, upgraded to compiz...ubuntu3 then reenabled desktop effects and it is working [16:37] go figure === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:31] jdstrand, that's ok then :) [17:31] chrisccoulson: that said, I still see the problems with the slow textarea in moin. I noticed that the textarea is only slow if the page is very large [17:32] i'll fix the non-starting issue later and do another upload [17:34] chrisccoulson: eg, a page with 1600 lines of text is very slow when you press 'Enter' at the top of the textarea [17:34] s/page/textarea/ [17:34] so it may be related in how ff4 updates the textarea [17:35] during editing [17:40] xul192 xul20 are still broken in Natty [17:42] chrisccoulson: ^^ [17:46] 1.9.2.13~hg20101108r34732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd2 isnt installing but the PPA sasys 1.9.2.13~hg20101117r34750+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 built [17:46] s/sasys/says [17:47] gnomefreak: can you purge the old xulrunner packages? [17:48] im guessing the new version hasnt hit archives [17:49] micahg: you mean sudo apt-get remove --purge xulrunner-1.9.2 [17:50] xulrunner-1.9.2: Installed: 1.9.2.13~hg20101108r34732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd2 Candidate: 1.9.2.13~hg20101108r34732+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd2 [17:50] that is the output of policy after running apt-get update [17:50] gnomefreak: so xul192 still FTBFS [17:50] but xul20 should work [17:51] it built from what the PPA page says [17:52] https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa says 1.9.2.13~hg20101117r34750+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 is built [17:52] 12 hours ago [17:53] huh? [17:53] that's not what I see [17:54] 2.0 still fails to configure [17:55] xulrunner-1.9.2 1.9.2.13~hg20101117r34750+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1Fabien Tassin (12 hours ago) [17:55] that is c+p from daily PPA [17:58] policy isnt showing the current built versions from PPA. maybe 12 hours isnt enough time? [18:04] ill be back. im going to start the updates and just ^C when it gets to xul* than i guess --configure to get the other packages [18:07] policy isnt showing thunderbird-2.1.7 but its built on PPA site from 2010-11-17 this is weird [18:07] but lets see what happens [18:07] gnomefreak: I show both those builds failing [18:08] i see 2.0 failed and ff4.0 failed [18:08] looking at the right hand side of page [18:11] ill be back i need a smoke [19:03] is tabs on top default in b7? [19:32] "The beta also brings the Firefox 4 theming overhaul to Linux, including the new tab position above the address bar." < ars technica [19:33] on beta 7 [19:34] chrisccoulson: "Tabs are now on top by default on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux" https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/4.0b7/releasenotes/ [19:36] Al_5, thanks. i wasn't sure, because I put them on top myself ages ago, and I didn't want to start a new profile ;) [19:36] :) [21:29] chrisccoulson: should I open a new merge request against the 4.0 or trunk branch? [22:00] * [reed] grumbles at ubuntu's slowness [22:04] debfx: trunk please, needs daily testing [22:04] [reed]: what's wrong? [22:05] <[reed]> micahg: bug 650539 has made my maverick upgrade unbearable [22:05] Launchpad bug 650539 in xorg (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 6 other projects) "Launching QT apps under Xinerama crashes Xorg : affects SpeedCrunch, KeePassX, Lucky Backup, Pencil, Stellarium, Skype, Google Earth, VLC, Konqueror, VirtualBox, Opera ... (affects: 82) (dups: 9) (heat: 492)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/650539 [22:06] [reed]: looks like there is a fix for it [22:06] <[reed]> yes [22:06] <[reed]> I'm rebuilding xorg now [22:06] <[reed]> archlinux found the problem 3+ weeks ago [22:07] <[reed]> and upstream has committed the fix as well [22:08] [reed]: well, idk what needs to be done as far as xorg update testing [22:08] <[reed]> I found RAOF in #ubuntu-devel [22:08] <[reed]> poking him about it now [22:09] ok [22:14] grrr, my cats are so stupid [22:14] lol [22:15] i wonder if my gf would notice if i just got rid of them ;) [22:15] chrisccoulson: hey [22:15] hi mdeslaur! [22:16] mdeslaur, want 2 cats? ;) [22:16] chrisccoulson: you think they're stupid because you don't understand them :) [22:16] lol [22:16] chrisccoulson: I already have two, thanks :P [22:16] i used to like them until my daughter was born [22:16] oh, yeah [22:16] and now they just annoy me ;) [23:32] chrisccoulson, do you know if the load issue has already been reported? [23:33] fta - load issue? [23:33] chrisccoulson, the unexpected load issue we talked about a few days afo [23:33] ago [23:33] with 0% cpu [23:34] ah, i remember now :) [23:34] i don't think that's been reported, but i'm not too sure [23:34] there are new kernels almost everyday, but their changelogs suck [23:34] ooh, my loadavg is 1.41 ;) [23:35] yeah, i never try to follow kernel changes ;) [23:35] * micahg had a load >10 last night :-/ [23:35] yeah, mine is ~1 too, it makes mplayer & pulse glitch [23:37] that's far from http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1