| cwillu | the !wubi support link is dead | 01:15 |
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| cwillu | http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer/support.php | 01:15 |
| cwillu | er, http://wubi-installer.org/support.php redirects to http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer, which is a 404 | 01:16 |
| h00k | oh lord. -offtopic is going to be a handful tonight | 01:25 |
| elky | bring out the kitteh pictures | 01:26 |
| h00k | yeah :) | 01:26 |
| h00k | I have to be in my LoCo channel in 1/2 hour, so I won't be able to watch it as closely | 01:27 |
| othello | fuck you | 08:00 |
| othello | KAGAMI... | 08:00 |
| othello | KAGAMI... | 08:00 |
| othello | HOW DARE YOU KILL US | 08:00 |
| tonyyarusso | that was odd | 08:00 |
| ikonia | this is the same guy that was going to hack us | 08:01 |
| ikonia | I'll change the forward to a ban if it happens again | 08:01 |
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| ubottu | tapper called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () | 08:31 |
| IdleOne | When do we find out who the new ops are going to be in the various channels? | 14:44 |
| Pici | IdleOne: Next week. | 14:45 |
| IdleOne | thank you | 14:45 |
| IdleOne | Good morning btw :) | 14:45 |
| Pici | IdleOne: The deadline for current ops to voice their opinions on all the candidates is Sunday night. | 14:45 |
| IdleOne | sounds good | 14:45 |
| ikonia | people talk such utter rubbish "fedora is better than ubuntu for raid" | 17:04 |
| Pici | Is that person even addressing anyone? | 17:05 |
| ikonia | yes | 17:06 |
| ikonia | nice one Pici | 17:15 |
| Pici | Kicking a webchat user will automagically ban their real host. | 17:16 |
| ikonia | I've still not got into that habbit | 17:16 |
| ikonia | FYI: I'm also still not happy with the floodbots open proxy banning, it's doing a fair amount of false positives | 17:16 |
| Pici | I'm still working on the floodbot guide for ops. | 17:16 |
| Pici | ikonia: I'm not either. | 17:16 |
| ikonia | I did know what you said, it's just my bad habbit - not your fault | 17:17 |
| ikonia | no guide would have saved me | 17:17 |
| Pici | I know. | 17:17 |
| Pici | I probably learn perl again for just long enough to work on a redirect url script. | 17:18 |
| ikonia | ha | 17:20 |
| gnomefreak | n/win 3 | 17:37 |
| popey | n/lose 1 | 17:58 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 17:59 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Cubey` appears to be abusive - 4.5) | 20:51 |
| guntbert | hi, I want to voice a concern about (sometimes) disappointing user experience in #ubuntu-server | 21:14 |
| tonyyarusso | guntbert: If it's relatively short, voice away. If you have a fairly detailed explanation, it could be more useful to send it to the ubuntu-irc mailing list. | 21:19 |
| guntbert | tonyyarusso: just shortly to collect my thoughts: every now and then there is a user asking for help and two or three experts chat away about some kernel feature...-- they often totally ignore the user | 21:20 |
| guntbert | I know the topic of #ubuntu-server is special "discussion and support" so that might lead to those situations | 21:21 |
| tonyyarusso | guntbert: So in short, you'd like to see it fulfill the support aspect better, yes? | 21:22 |
| guntbert | tonyyarusso: yes that seems to cover it ... well I think the discussion must happen somewhere and we don't want to spread forces too thin.... | 21:23 |
| Tm_Tr | I see it reasonable to even just ask the one in need of help to wait a moment to get help or such, total ignoring is rude | 21:24 |
| Tm_Tr | assuming it's relatively quiet channel | 21:24 |
| tonyyarusso | it usually is pretty quiet, yeah | 21:25 |
| guntbert | Tm_Tr: it is most of the time | 21:25 |
| guntbert | but I have no idea how to accomplish this - my first thought was to switch places for "discussion" and "support" in the topic but that seems .... moot? | 21:26 |
| tonyyarusso | guntbert: Usually this sort of thing is done by "lead by example". In other words, offer support frequently yourself and try to get it to catch on that way. | 21:27 |
| guntbert | tonyyarusso: would be great if I was able to do so, but the field in #ubuntu-server is somewhat wider than my field of experience ... but you have a very good point there, sometimes I do the same thing in #ubuntu too | 21:29 |
| Tm_Tr | guntbert: just giving some attempt to help usually draw others more capable into it | 21:31 |
| guntbert | Tm_Tr: thats true - thank you both for listening and your input - I'm gonna let it lie (with some positive attempts from me) for a while, maybe I send it to the mailing list later | 21:33 |
| topyli | i would do this on the mailing list | 21:33 |
| topyli | well, i would do more on the mailing list anyway :) | 21:34 |
| guntbert | topyli: taken into account :-) | 21:34 |
| topyli | this channel is real time and people are not. darn foreigners, living in weird timezones! | 21:34 |
| topyli | mail is better if you want to voice a concern | 21:34 |
| guntbert | good point! (btw its 22:30 here :-) | 21:35 |
| topyli | well i'm only one hour further, but there are people even more unfortunate :) | 21:36 |
| guntbert | ah, the man from the north is speaking :-) | 21:37 |
| guntbert | and now I'm off - enough idle chatter in the ops channel - thx to you all | 21:38 |
| topyli | it happens! | 21:38 |
| topyli | i think Tm_Tr is right though, ignoring newbies is just about the worst approach | 21:42 |
| topyli | (and guntbert) | 21:43 |
| Tm_Tr | it is, especially when it's relatively quiet support channel | 21:44 |
| Tm_Tr | I tend to slap people when they keep chitchat when someone asks support question in our loco channels | 21:45 |
| topyli | yeah well our channels are slow enough that we sometimes forget which is support and which is -ot | 21:46 |
| Tm_Tr | indeed | 21:46 |
| topyli | slapping is needed :) | 21:46 |
| * Tm_Tr slaps topyli and then huggles him tightly | 21:46 | |
| * topyli tickles | 21:47 | |
| * Tm_Tr hides | 21:47 | |
| ikonia | I'll try to make a point of being more active in #ubuntu-server I understand the concerns earlier | 22:50 |
| ikonia | why are the #ubuntu-uds channels still open ? | 22:51 |
| ikonia | IRCAnswersBot [~IRCAnswer@207-126-122-147.ip.openhosting.com] | 23:03 |
| ikonia | tons of ubuntu channels ? | 23:03 |
| IdleOne | ikonia: Brother has pretty decent printer/scanner support, not all of the models have linux drivers but the brother website does have a good bit of information on models and instructions to install the drivers. | 23:08 |
| ikonia | IdleOne: tell him | 23:09 |
| ikonia | I find they suck | 23:09 |
| IdleOne | well, yeah they do. | 23:09 |
| IdleOne | but still better then Canon for example | 23:09 |
| ikonia | agreed....barely | 23:09 |
| ikonia | that's getting annoying | 23:44 |
| ikonia | is unitedpotsmokers acceptable as a nick in #ubuntu | 23:53 |
| topyli | ikonia: no | 23:54 |
| ikonia | I have asked him to change it in pm | 23:54 |
| ikonia | giving chance to respond | 23:54 |
| elky | he's been asked before | 23:54 |
| elky | and stormed off iirc | 23:54 |
| topyli | if we have the policy we do, it extends to nicks and quit messages and such | 23:55 |
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