[01:15] the !wubi support link is dead [01:15] http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer/support.php [01:16] er, http://wubi-installer.org/support.php redirects to http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer, which is a 404 [01:25] oh lord. -offtopic is going to be a handful tonight [01:26] bring out the kitteh pictures [01:26] yeah :) [01:27] I have to be in my LoCo channel in 1/2 hour, so I won't be able to watch it as closely [08:00] fuck you [08:00] KAGAMI... [08:00] KAGAMI... [08:00] HOW DARE YOU KILL US [08:00] that was odd [08:01] this is the same guy that was going to hack us [08:01] I'll change the forward to a ban if it happens again === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [08:31] tapper called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () [14:44] When do we find out who the new ops are going to be in the various channels? [14:45] IdleOne: Next week. [14:45] thank you [14:45] Good morning btw :) [14:45] IdleOne: The deadline for current ops to voice their opinions on all the candidates is Sunday night. [14:45] sounds good [17:04] people talk such utter rubbish "fedora is better than ubuntu for raid" [17:05] Is that person even addressing anyone? [17:06] yes [17:15] nice one Pici [17:16] Kicking a webchat user will automagically ban their real host. [17:16] I've still not got into that habbit [17:16] FYI: I'm also still not happy with the floodbots open proxy banning, it's doing a fair amount of false positives [17:16] I'm still working on the floodbot guide for ops. [17:16] ikonia: I'm not either. [17:17] I did know what you said, it's just my bad habbit - not your fault [17:17] no guide would have saved me [17:17] I know. [17:18] I probably learn perl again for just long enough to work on a redirect url script. [17:20] ha [17:37] n/win 3 [17:58] n/lose 1 [17:59] :) [20:51] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Cubey` appears to be abusive - 4.5) [21:14] hi, I want to voice a concern about (sometimes) disappointing user experience in #ubuntu-server [21:19] guntbert: If it's relatively short, voice away. If you have a fairly detailed explanation, it could be more useful to send it to the ubuntu-irc mailing list. [21:20] tonyyarusso: just shortly to collect my thoughts: every now and then there is a user asking for help and two or three experts chat away about some kernel feature...-- they often totally ignore the user [21:21] I know the topic of #ubuntu-server is special "discussion and support" so that might lead to those situations [21:22] guntbert: So in short, you'd like to see it fulfill the support aspect better, yes? [21:23] tonyyarusso: yes that seems to cover it ... well I think the discussion must happen somewhere and we don't want to spread forces too thin.... [21:24] I see it reasonable to even just ask the one in need of help to wait a moment to get help or such, total ignoring is rude [21:24] assuming it's relatively quiet channel [21:25] it usually is pretty quiet, yeah [21:25] Tm_Tr: it is most of the time [21:26] but I have no idea how to accomplish this - my first thought was to switch places for "discussion" and "support" in the topic but that seems .... moot? [21:27] guntbert: Usually this sort of thing is done by "lead by example". In other words, offer support frequently yourself and try to get it to catch on that way. [21:29] tonyyarusso: would be great if I was able to do so, but the field in #ubuntu-server is somewhat wider than my field of experience ... but you have a very good point there, sometimes I do the same thing in #ubuntu too [21:31] guntbert: just giving some attempt to help usually draw others more capable into it [21:33] Tm_Tr: thats true - thank you both for listening and your input - I'm gonna let it lie (with some positive attempts from me) for a while, maybe I send it to the mailing list later [21:33] i would do this on the mailing list [21:34] well, i would do more on the mailing list anyway :) [21:34] topyli: taken into account :-) [21:34] this channel is real time and people are not. darn foreigners, living in weird timezones! [21:34] mail is better if you want to voice a concern [21:35] good point! (btw its 22:30 here :-) [21:36] well i'm only one hour further, but there are people even more unfortunate :) [21:37] ah, the man from the north is speaking :-) [21:38] and now I'm off - enough idle chatter in the ops channel - thx to you all [21:38] it happens! [21:42] i think Tm_Tr is right though, ignoring newbies is just about the worst approach [21:43] (and guntbert) [21:44] it is, especially when it's relatively quiet support channel [21:45] I tend to slap people when they keep chitchat when someone asks support question in our loco channels [21:46] yeah well our channels are slow enough that we sometimes forget which is support and which is -ot [21:46] indeed [21:46] slapping is needed :) [21:46] * Tm_Tr slaps topyli and then huggles him tightly [21:47] * topyli tickles [21:47] * Tm_Tr hides [22:50] I'll try to make a point of being more active in #ubuntu-server I understand the concerns earlier [22:51] why are the #ubuntu-uds channels still open ? [23:03] IRCAnswersBot [~IRCAnswer@207-126-122-147.ip.openhosting.com] [23:03] tons of ubuntu channels ? [23:08] ikonia: Brother has pretty decent printer/scanner support, not all of the models have linux drivers but the brother website does have a good bit of information on models and instructions to install the drivers. [23:09] IdleOne: tell him [23:09] I find they suck [23:09] well, yeah they do. [23:09] but still better then Canon for example [23:09] agreed....barely [23:44] that's getting annoying [23:53] is unitedpotsmokers acceptable as a nick in #ubuntu [23:54] ikonia: no [23:54] I have asked him to change it in pm [23:54] giving chance to respond [23:54] he's been asked before [23:54] and stormed off iirc [23:55] if we have the policy we do, it extends to nicks and quit messages and such