[16:20] <jgjones> Hmm as you get older you still don't get enough sleep...kids make sure of that.
[16:20] <Waffle> jgjones,  hum i ;like nightclubs (a bit noisy tho)
[16:24] <BigRedS> isn't 'noisy' part of the point?
[16:25] <Waffle> BigRedS,  kinda
[16:25]  * BigRedS feels old
[16:25]  * Waffle feels young
[16:28] <popey> AlanBell: fill yer boots
[16:28] <Waffle> it goes ding by the way
[16:29] <Waffle> will MSN run in wine
[16:29] <popey> try it and see
[16:29] <BigRedS> Waffle: I don't think that's something many people would have tried
[16:30] <Waffle> BigRedS,  i guessed that
[16:31] <AlanBell> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f384/browsertest.htm not in the Ubuntu font yet :(
[16:31] <ikonia> Waffle: did you go by any other nicknames in the past ?
[16:32] <Waffle> ikonia,  i really don't want to talk about this in this channel, is there another channel we can talk in?
[16:32] <ikonia> errr why ?
[16:32] <ikonia> if you feel it's an issue, just send me a pm
[16:33] <Waffle> ikonia,  i'll continue with this topic via PM
[16:34]  * BigRedS complains that the party's in London
[16:34] <ikonia> Waffle: ok
[16:34] <evilchristel> AlanBell: we missed noel gallagher visiting our fine town earlier! all my girlfriends are raving about how he was shopping in the guitar village!
[16:35] <evilchristel> (i felt very embarrassed to have to wikipedia him to work out who they were talking about) :s
[16:35] <evilchristel> hi ikonia btw :)
[16:36] <ikonia> evilchristel: your back !
[16:37] <AlanBell> evilchristel: I wouldn't recognise him (or care) but I am sure those who saw were suitably impressed!
[16:38] <AlanBell> I can't deop myself
[16:38] <evilchristel> apparently very much so, to the extent that they've all developed a sudden interest in guitars it seems
[16:38] <evilchristel> ikonia: oh im usually hiding somewhere :0
[16:38] <DJones> AlanBell: Is that better
[16:38] <AlanBell> thanks
[16:39] <popey> AlanBell: http://ubunt.eu/ where'd that come from!?
[16:39] <ikonia> evilchristel: it's nice to actually SEE you though
[16:39] <AlanBell> popey: I was thinking of registering it a while back, and it was already there!
[16:40] <evilchristel> ikonia: <3
[16:40] <evilchristel> and you m'dear
[16:40] <ikonia> working my arms just for you at the moment ;)
[16:41] <shauno> shame there's no .tu in 3166
[16:42] <evilchristel> ...
[16:42] <evilchristel> ..
[16:42] <popey> \o/ dots
[16:42] <evilchristel> er sorry
[16:43] <czajkowski> evilchristel: I miss cutie hugs
[16:43] <ikonia> evilchristel: been enjoying watching wunder kind's progress
[16:43] <ikonia> kinde ?
[16:43] <Pendulum> evilchristel: hey! haven't seen you around in ages :)
[16:44] <AlanBell> Pendulum: evilchristel came to the Farnham Fireworks
[16:45] <Pendulum> AlanBell: that's because y'all are actually local to each other. When I live in the area, I'll go to the Farnham Fireworks too :P
[16:45] <evilchristel> hehe
[16:46] <AlanBell> that would be lovely
[16:46] <evilchristel> czajkowski: he misses you to! come visit
[16:46] <evilchristel> ikonia: good! he's lush! :D are you still sober or did you fall off the wagon? :P
[16:46] <evilchristel> and halloooo Pendulum
[16:46] <Waffle> what is a good frame by frame animation maker for linux?
[16:47] <czajkowski> evilchristel: yes
[16:47] <Waffle> anyone
[16:47] <AlanBell> !info pencil
[16:47] <ikonia> evilchristel: still sobre
[16:47] <ikonia> sober
[16:48] <evilchristel> i say!
[16:48] <Waffle> AlanBell,  does it do .jpeg importation
[16:48] <evilchristel> i was going to suggest beers when im next in the west country.. but we can meet for a protein shake instead?
[16:48] <AlanBell> Waffle: no idea, tell me when you find out.
[16:49] <ikonia> evilchristel: we can do beers, I'm allowed to drink again now, just not had a reason
[16:49] <evilchristel> ooh :D
[16:49] <evilchristel> excellent!
[16:49] <ikonia> too easy to not drink at the moment after so long off
[16:49] <popey> how long?
[16:49] <popey> 13 weeks is the longest I've gone without booze
[16:50] <ikonia> popey: in honesty, I've forgot exact dates, as it was only supposed to be a month, but I'm easy over 3
[16:50] <popey> neat
[16:51] <daubers> popey: 2.5 years longest I've done (stupid antidepressants)
[16:51] <ikonia> once I'd gone over $X I just forgot about it, so didn't drink because I'd forgot to
[16:51] <daubers> ikonia: That seems to last too
[16:51] <Waffle> AlanBell,  yup it does do .jpeg imports, thanks allot XD
[16:52] <ikonia> daubers: yeah, I don't want a drink, but I can now comfortably have one
[16:52] <ikonia> evilchristel: although a shake is always welcome if you want a gym session first !
[16:52]  * Waffle could do with a drink of beer
[16:59] <daubers> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11790715 I see you can't use SVN in china anymore if you get arrested for "inciting subversion"
[17:00] <popey> daubers: http://tumbleweed.popey.com/
[17:00] <daubers> \o/
[17:03] <evilchristel> ikonia: i dont know about want.. need on the other hand! :)
[17:03] <Waffle> i can't figure this out
[17:03] <evilchristel> alcohol is curious to me these days, having not had any for 16 months it takes half a glass of red wine to turn me into a giggling schoolgirl-esque daftie
[17:12] <Waffle> how do i import a .hpeg into kToon
[17:12] <Waffle> anyone
[17:14] <Waffle> ?
[17:14] <Waffle> *jpeg
[17:15] <Waffle> anynyone know?
[17:15] <Waffle> anyone/
[17:16]  * Waffle is waiting
[17:16] <MartijnVdS> !wait
[17:16]  * AlanBell notes that it is home time/cooking sprogs dinner time for most people
[17:16] <BigRedS> The commuting hour
[17:17] <BigRedS> and, again, I'm at work to see it :(
[17:17]  * screen-x lurks but know nout about animation
[17:17] <AlanBell> !info ktoon
[17:17] <AlanBell> presume that is a kde app
[17:17] <Waffle> AlanBell,  thats right
[17:18] <AlanBell> someone in #kubuntu might know it, I can't be bothered to install all the dependencies
[17:18] <screen-x> Waffle: <guess>dragondrop, file>import? </guess>
[17:18] <MartijnVdS> drag & drop..
[17:18] <MartijnVdS> you do that with dragons now? :)
[17:19] <screen-x> in soviet wales, dragons drop you
[17:20] <daubers> In the Red Valley is it now boyo?
[17:20] <MartijnVdS> Wales has fallen to the commies?
[17:20] <daubers> I just can't seem to hear a welsh accent saying "Now Comrade, to arms!"
[17:21] <Waffle> *sigh8 no help ther
[17:21] <Waffle> there
[17:21] <ikonia> because your banned
[17:21] <Waffle> ikonia,  i didn't do anything i just joined and poof you come along
[17:22] <ikonia> Waffle: because your banned under other nicknames, as you know
[17:22] <ikonia> Waffle: so don't play dumb
[17:22] <Waffle> ikonia, i know but this is a new kick i may have changed since then
[17:23] <ikonia> Waffle: lets not discuss this here - you know you've not changed, I explained to you in PM, you know you're banned, so don't try, lets keep it simple
[17:23] <Waffle> ikonia,  when will i be allowed back in?
[17:23] <evilchristel> cor, it excites me when you're being strict!
[17:24] <evilchristel> but now i must marinade some meat
[17:24] <evilchristel> (!)
[17:24] <popey> is that a euphamism?
[17:24] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[17:24] <Waffle> evilchristel,  i hate it when she is strict
[17:24]  * popey chuckles ... she
[17:25] <Waffle> popey,  exactually, i said that on superpose
[17:25] <ikonia> popey: he knows I'm a he, it's one of his trolls to call me she
[17:26] <Waffle> once again psycho  guy is right
[17:26] <popey> Waffle: be nice
[17:26] <popey> Waffle: keep this up and you'll get kicked/banned again
[17:27] <Waffle> popey,  me and ikonia need to make up to etch other to make the world a happy place
[17:27] <popey> or.. just stop being a dick.
[17:28] <MartijnVdS> (or stop acting like you're 12)
[17:28] <Waffle> popey,  thats also an option
[17:28] <popey> it's the favourable option IMO
[17:28] <Waffle> MartijnVdS,  i am 12 plus 1 year
[17:29] <AlanBell> #uksnow next week or so they think
[17:29] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: Snow? Already?
[17:30] <Waffle> it hasn't even snowed yet (in the UK)
[17:30] <MartijnVdS> Waffle: I believe AlanBell is trying to say it's going to next week
[17:31] <AlanBell> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20101118/tuk-snow-warning-britain-set-for-winter-45dbed5.html
[17:31] <Waffle> MartijnVdS,  well we'll have to wait and see
[17:32] <screen-x> it was #uksnow that pursuaded me to join twitter :)
[17:33] <Waffle> screen-x, i think i'm on twitter
[17:33] <popey> i might have to get a survival kit for my car I think
[17:33] <MartijnVdS> snow chains
[17:33] <gord> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/alternative-to-200-lines-kernel-patch.html - interesting
[17:34] <screen-x> popey: What would you include in a survival pack?
[17:34]  * popey bets thats lennarts "patch" before clicking it
[17:34] <MartijnVdS> it is
[17:34] <popey> screen-x: lets see... http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/CarSurvivalKit
[17:51] <czajkowski> snow....
[17:51] <czajkowski> it's only novemeber :(
[17:52] <gord> snow? i like snow!
[17:52] <gord> snow is the only reason i let winter exist at all
[17:52] <BigRedS> I like snow when I'm allowed to stay at home
[17:52] <czajkowski> gord: you're just plain odd
[17:52] <BigRedS> or, at least, not go further than walking distance
[17:52] <Waffle> i'l see you guys later
[17:52] <czajkowski> It's evil
[17:53] <gord> qualifier: i don't own a car, i don't drive and i don't need to commute anywhere
[17:53] <Waffle> bye
[17:53] <gord> i get all the pro's of snow with non of the cons :)
[17:53]  * BigRedS fits the first of those...
[17:54] <gord> also, my cat jumps about in the snow for five minutes before running back inside needing a hug because she is so cold, then she runs outside again
[17:56] <BigRedS> cats + snow = awesome
[17:56] <BigRedS> generally
[17:58] <jacobw> throwing snowballs at cats = awesome
[17:58] <jacobw> fixed that for you :)
[18:00] <BigRedS> haha
[18:41] <dutchie> my dog chases snowballs in exactly the same way she chases normal balls
[18:41] <dutchie> then wonders where they have gone when they melt or she eats them
[18:46] <jacobw> Aw :)
[18:49] <andylockran> howdy guys and gals
[18:49] <andylockran> how goes things?
[18:51] <jacobw> not too bad thanks :)
[18:51] <jacobw> yourself?
[18:52] <jacobw> soo tired. need beer :p
[18:53] <AlanBell> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ep/pad/view/CarSurvivalKit/latest etherpad rocks
[19:06]  * jacobw has Black Sheep Golden Sheep Golden Pale Ale
[19:07] <jacobw> er.. the second golden is extraneous
[19:15] <AlanBell> !lvm
[19:17] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] No Maverick PPA For Unity - http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/11/18/no-maverick-ppa-for-unity/
[19:17] <AlanBell> waahh
[19:27] <Azelphur> hmm, weird
[19:27] <Azelphur> speed dial on firefox won't generate a thumbnail for deluge's web ui :(
[19:28] <Azelphur> oh wait it did, it just took like 60 seconds, weird
[19:39] <andylockran> Deluge webui any good Azelphur ?
[19:39] <Azelphur> hell yes.
[19:39] <Azelphur> deluge is awesome
[19:40] <andylockran> I use deluge, but not it's webui at the moment
[19:42] <Azelphur> andylockran: I use deluge+flexget to get all my stuff, it's pretty cool
[19:47] <Azelphur> Anyone know how to fix firefox's terrible attempt at theme inheritance so I don't get crap like this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/November%202010/search.png
[19:48] <Azelphur> There is text in that box, believe it or not :P
[19:56] <evilchristel> im not sure how i feel about potential snow
[19:56] <evilchristel> i like snow. snow is fun.
[19:57] <evilchristel> but last years snowfall was annoyingly inconvenient
[19:57] <DJones> Snow is great fun when you've got a dog
[19:58] <czajkowski> evilsnow
[19:58] <DJones> Our dog loved it last year, although when he was waist deep in it walking last year he might have got a bit chilly on his stomach
[19:59] <evilchristel> yeah, the dog loved it last winter, she burrowed into it and you could just see this white bump moving along
[19:59] <DJones> :)
[19:59] <evilchristel> it was cute!
[19:59] <DJones> I bet it was, ours is too big to do that
[19:59] <evilchristel> what wasnt as cute was the supermarkets not having deliveries, all my antenatal classes being cancelled and the road being littered with abandoned cars!
[20:00]  * dutchie has a pretty picture of his dog in the snow
[20:00] <dutchie> don't have an electronic version though
[20:00] <dutchie> so you will have to take my word for the cuteness
[20:00] <DJones> I was off work all the time the snow was down, all I had to do was walk the dog
[20:00] <evilchristel> hehe
[20:00] <evilchristel> my dog is in love with czajkowski
[20:00] <dutchie> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jshholland/3756333348/
[20:01] <czajkowski> lol
[20:01] <dutchie> that is a non-snowy Pebbles
[20:01] <czajkowski> this is rather true
[20:01] <evilchristel> pebbles is indeed cute!
[20:01] <danfish> dutchie: that snow's melted ;)
[20:01] <czajkowski> evilchristel: dog used to walk me to my room, mount my back lick my arm and pat my tummy
[20:02] <evilchristel> tillie is impossible to get photos of as she doesnt like being still, but here she is recovering after being spayed: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs204.ash2/46697_481909445936_668090936_6939229_3935327_n.jpg
[20:03] <czajkowski> i've rarely seen her that stil
[20:03] <DJones> This is Oscar last year http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PnGeXTQd-uE/S0SBWOAiWSI/AAAAAAAABWY/_4pyZRc_SQ0/s640/2010-01-06%2011.24.36.jpg
[20:03] <czajkowski> DJones: cute
[20:04] <evilchristel> http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs478.ash2/75154_10150100952695937_668090936_7509453_5357731_n.jpg and here she is eating a small child
[20:04] <DJones> evilchristel: How old is she, looks quite young in the picture
[20:04] <evilchristel> DJones: she's 18 months
[20:04] <evilchristel> and even more nuts than she was as a 12 week old puppy
[20:04] <czajkowski> evilchristel: cute
[20:04] <DJones> evilchristel: Right, ours is 3 years + a bit
[20:04] <evilchristel> ooh oscar is fluffy, i want to cuddle him!
[20:05] <DJones> Heh, he'd love that
[20:05] <evilchristel> :D
[20:05] <evilchristel> i love dogs, they're fab
[20:06] <evilchristel> czajkowski: tillie misses you!
[20:06] <czajkowski> heh
[20:07] <dutchie> pebbles will literally chase her ball all day and all night
[20:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://lordies.co.uk/Jan/00002.jpg
[20:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://lordies.co.uk/Jan/00003.jpg
[20:08] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: sweet saint jack daniels, was that farnham last year
[20:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://lordies.co.uk/Jan/00015.jpg
[20:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> Yes czajkowski
[20:08] <czajkowski> oh lordie
[20:08] <dutchie> i do have snow pictures without dogs in: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jshholland/3756314812/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/jshholland/3755506163/in/photostream/
[20:09] <DJones> This is oscar with 2 of my parents dogs http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PnGeXTQd-uE/TOWHv2t-PFI/AAAAAAAABeI/vgF0MI8_w7s/s720/ThreeDogs.jpg (fluffy warning, more cuddles needed)
[20:09] <dutchie> ahhh
[20:09] <dutchie> bet that hair is a nightmare to clean
[20:10] <evilchristel> czajkowski: it was very pretty last winter! (with the snow and all)
[20:10] <evilchristel> oooh they're gorgeous
[20:10] <dutchie> i understand oxford is pretty in the snow
[20:10] <DJones> dutchie: Not really, they're always cleaning themselves if they get dirty and they get a bath about every 6 weeks
[20:10] <czajkowski> evilchristel: dread the cold
[20:10] <gord> everyone keeps talking about snow, i'm just gonna sit here and call you all liars >:(
[20:10] <dutchie> http://www.keble.ox.ac.uk/about/photographs/snow-2007-photo-competition
[20:10] <evilchristel> i spoke to my brother earlier, its -15 back home!
[20:11]  * czajkowski watches gord go into a corner and sulk
[20:11] <evilchristel> mind, it was -37 at its worst last year, which was the coldest for like 70 years or something
[20:11] <gord> i don't need a corner, i'll just sulk in the middle so everyone can see
[20:11] <czajkowski> brrrrrrr
[20:11] <evilchristel> gord: lakeland sells instant snow in cans!
[20:11] <TheOpenSourcerer> images 0001-16, 40, 41 if you are interested.
[20:11] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://lordies.co.uk/Jan/
[20:11] <TheOpenSourcerer> We built an Igloo: http://lordies.co.uk/Jan/200008.jpg
[20:11] <TheOpenSourcerer> Got to go and collect my Son from Scouts. Laterz.
[20:12] <evilchristel> i nearly purchased some before i realised it was for indoor use and not for making the garden look white for christmas :S
[20:12] <gord> my fridge makes instant snow too, but that is less fun
[20:12] <gord> i have an entire drawer in my freezer that just fills up with freezer snow
[20:12] <evilchristel> (i should have realised that a small can wouldnt make enough snow for the entire garden)
[20:12] <czajkowski> evilchristel: roflol
[20:12] <dutchie> TheOpenSourcerer: impressive igloo
[20:13] <dutchie> (that could have been a good codename)
[20:13] <dutchie> except igloo isn't an animal
[20:17] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Andy Loughran] PCI DSS - http://zrmt.com/article/view/pci-dss1
[20:18] <danfish> has anyone packaged up etherpad?
[20:18] <evilchristel> i like the igloo!
[20:19] <daubers> Evening
[20:20] <DJones> danfish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Etherpad Doesn't look like it
[20:21] <DJones> But looks like that wiki has instructions on how to install
[20:23] <danfish> DJones: tx - I've installed from source before - that wiki page looks like things have moved on a bit though
[20:23] <DJones> danfish: Have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+bug/563484 as well, there are some pointers in that
[20:28] <danfish> DJones: packaging (learn howto) - added to mental etherpad :)
[20:30] <finelytuned> hi
[20:30] <DJones> danfish: Looks like there might be a repository for Etherpad http://etherpad.org/download/#debian
[20:31] <DJones> "Etherpad is available as a debian package. In debian and ubuntu, add the following apt repository in your package manger"
[20:34] <finelytuned> ive just joined the launchpad team
[20:36] <danfish> i'll check it out
[20:39]  * daubers should really reboot his vps :-s
[20:40] <andylockran> daubers: uptime?
[20:40] <daubers> andylockran: 116d22h
[20:40] <dutchie> once it's past 100d you are not allowed to reboot it
[20:40] <daubers> Not updated for a couple of kernel updates and the ssl update that came down recently, should reboot for that really
[20:40] <danfish> daubers: who are you using?
[20:40] <andylockran> I'm on 47 for both of mine.. last kernel update
[20:40] <daubers> danfish: bitfolk
[20:41] <andylockran> moi aussi
[20:41] <dutchie> yay bitfolk
[20:41] <danfish> linode for me
[20:41] <daubers> really, _really_, want to put a machine in a DC myself, but cost is an issue at the moment
[20:42] <daubers> ah screw it
[20:42]  * daubers reboots
[20:43] <daubers> o/
[20:43] <daubers> Seems ok
[20:44] <daubers> Not a bad reboot time either really
[20:46] <dutchie> was thinking that seemed quite quick
[20:49] <danfish> daubers: \o/ arduino dc hosting
[20:49] <Azelphur> anyone know if it's possible to get a cheap internet connection without a phone line?
[20:50] <Azelphur> IE: I don't want to use the telephone at all I just want to have an internet connection
[20:50] <daubers> danfish: heh, be fun to do that
[20:51] <daubers> Azelphur: Unless you go down the VM route, you'd need to pay the line rental on the line
[20:51] <daubers> hence it'd be just as cheap to have the phone line there
[20:51] <DJones> Azelphur: Apart from a 3G dongle, I doubt it, you'd need to pay line rental whether you use it or not
[20:51] <daubers> (or that's what people at BT tell me)
[20:51] <Azelphur> yea I understand you'd need to pay line rental
[20:51] <Azelphur> but you generally have to pay line rental + internet + phone, I don't want the phone part
[20:51] <Azelphur> or rather, my cousin doesn't :p
[20:51] <daubers> Azelphur: Jus don't plug the phone in?
[20:52] <daubers> and get a line rental only tariff
[20:52] <andylockran> Still have to pay a minimum of £11 per month Line Rental
[20:52] <Azelphur> daubers: oh like pay as you go phone but you never use it so it's free
[20:52] <andylockran> I think that's what I paid when I had BT in my Student Flat.
[20:52] <andylockran> £11 per month, and free evening and weekend calls included.
[20:52] <daubers> Azelphur: Yeah, I believe thats possible
[20:52] <andylockran> but that was the cheapst at the time
[20:52] <Azelphur> I see
[20:52] <daubers> andylockran: Thats what we had
[20:53] <Azelphur> so next question is who has the cheapest internet connection :p
[20:53] <Azelphur> (This is for my cousin \o/)
[20:53] <daubers> andylockran: Also meant that we could call in takeaways for free in the evening \o/
[20:53] <andylockran> yup
[20:54] <DJones> Azelphur: Do they have sky tv?
[20:54] <Azelphur> DJones: nope
[20:54] <andylockran> the other option is Virgin Media.. not sure if you can get their broadband offering w/o a phone line
[20:54] <Azelphur> andylockran: not in a coverage area for vm so doesn't matter
[20:54] <andylockran> as they have their own home<>box connection
[20:54] <andylockran> Azelphur: ah, ok
[20:54] <finelytuned> you can have it without a phone line
[20:54] <DJones> Thats out then, they do a free broadband option for customers
[20:55] <finelytuned> used to cost £10 per month
[20:55] <daubers> also, VM are evil
[20:56] <Azelphur> indeed
[20:56] <finelytuned> true but they do ok for me :)
[20:56] <Azelphur> looking at the talktalk website because they are cheap, their website seems to make sense
[20:56] <daubers> Seen their latest campaign? They want ISPs to drop the "Upto" and have made a big fuss of it, but HAVEN'T DONE SO THEMSELVES!!!!
[20:56] <Azelphur> in the box at the top it says "+ £12.04 line rental a month" and then just below it it says "Line rental included no need for BT"
[20:56] <Azelphur> contradictory statements are contradictory
[20:56] <dutchie> daubers: how naughty
[20:58] <DJones> AOL do a £4.99/month service .... I didn't they were still around
[20:58] <daubers> dutchie: They're all a bunch of so and so's
[20:58] <dutchie> well, true
[20:58] <finelytuned> i agree with the above
[21:00] <finelytuned> ok gotta log cya all tomorrow
[21:05] <diplo> evening all
[21:17] <nucc1> for the first time in 2 years, i want to use something other than the default icon theme in ubuntu, and i can't get the folder icons to change :(
[21:18] <nucc1> did something change in that period?
[21:20] <diplo> Faenza ones are nice, post at omg http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/faenza-icon-set-gets-a-ppa/
[21:20] <diplo> never had an issue changing mine
[21:20] <popey> evening
[21:20] <diplo> evening
[21:20] <nucc1> diplo, for some reason the icons are changing except the folder icons
[21:21] <diplo> missed the folder part, not had that before myself
[21:21] <diplo> How did you change them, new theme ? or manually
[21:22] <nucc1> when i install the theme, it asks me if i want to apply, and i say yes
[21:23] <diplo> No errors ?
[21:23] <nucc1> nope
[21:23] <nucc1> mime-type icons change
[21:23] <nucc1> but folder icons dont
[21:23] <nucc1> it seems like changing from the "customize" place works
[21:23] <nucc1> is that a bug worth filing?
[21:24] <nucc1> ah, it doesn't work.
[21:24] <nucc1> only icons that were shipped with ubuntu are working
[21:26] <diplo> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-819415.html
[21:27] <diplo> Posts from 2008 but seems similair issue
[21:29] <nucc1> ok, so its likely old icon themes.
[21:29] <nucc1> oh well.
[21:29] <nucc1> i'll try those in the link you gave me.
[21:29] <nucc1> thanks
[22:07] <DeathSling> daubers, AlanBell & screen-x... thank you for your help the other day with SFTP. I now have my first fully operational Virtualised SFTP server.   Ubuntu rocks!
[22:07] <AlanBell> yay!
[22:09] <DeathSling> I'm even starting to get used to using vi, which I thought would never happen!
[22:10] <DeathSling> Still wish I could get TextMate on Ubuntu though, I love that app
[22:11] <DeathSling> how sad is it that my favourite app is a text editor... I need to get out more
[22:11]  * AlanBell fears vi
[22:11]  * AlanBell huggles nano
[22:12] <AlanBell> and gedit when there is a gui
[22:12]  * AlanBell is soft
[22:12] <jacobw> i've learnt to use vi about 3 times now, its always a small epiphany when i realise how useful it is
[22:13] <jacobw> the reason i've learnt to use it 3 times is because i don't do a great deal of computer stuff and i keep forgetting
[22:13] <DeathSling> still haven't tried nano. GEdit skanked a file today. Might be my file permissions of the xserver but I was still pretty cross
[22:13] <popey> i have a vi cheat sheet posted up near my desk at work
[22:13] <popey> I never use it
[22:13] <popey> my co-workers do
[22:13] <popey> i use nano
[22:14] <jacobw> yeah, i think its one of these things where it doesn't become useful unless you use it all the time
[22:15] <DeathSling> very true
[22:17] <DeathSling> doing this virtual machine stuff has forced me into it, now I'm glad because I'm not quite so frightened f it
[22:23] <mgdm> I've got the new guy at work (it's no longer me!) learning Vi
[22:23] <mgdm> after showing some 1337 regex sk1llz the other day
[22:26] <DeathSling> I've looked at the license for VirtualBox and it seems that I'm perfectly legal in using it to run my servers through it for free, in my workplace. Does anyone here know if I right?
[22:26] <diplo> Anyone recommend me a good prog for resizing a bulk load of images to a defined size ?
[22:26] <diplo> Or best just with CLI ?
[22:27] <dutchie> diplo: there is a very easily scriptable "resize" command in the imagemagick package
[22:27] <DeathSling> imagemagik
[22:27] <DeathSling> it's command line. never used t, but heard it's very good
[22:27] <dutchie> !info imagemagick
[22:28] <mgdm> imagemagick is ace
[22:28] <jacobw> i've never seen the attraction of emacs personally
[22:28] <mgdm> the 'convert' command is the swiss army knife of image handling
[22:28] <diplo> yeah used it before, just wondering if any gui apps using it now
[22:32] <stuphi> diplo: for f in *.jpg;do convert $f -resize 1024x768 small_$f;done
[22:35] <DeathSling> i'd like to see launchd ported to ubuntu
[22:37] <mgdm> it has upstart
[22:37] <DeathSling> mainly i'm after watched folders
[22:37] <diplo> cheers stuphi, already used mogrify but will try yours as well to see diff results
[22:38] <danfish> my 20month old has just woken up thinking it's morning and is wide awake :( suggestions on a postcard on how to get him back to sleep
[22:39] <jacobw> put him back to bed and turn the lights off?
[22:39]  * jacobw has no experience of kids, is it obivous :P
[22:39] <jacobw> s/obivous/obvious
[22:40] <danfish> jacobw: :)
[22:40] <jacobw> i'm watching a documentary on 4od called "In the Shadow of the Moon" about the moon landing
[22:41] <jacobw> its really amazing all the things they acheived
[22:41] <danfish> jacobw: it was all faked
[22:41] <danfish> honest
[22:41] <diplo> It's great fun isn't it danfish
[22:41] <diplo> I've got a 2 1/2 and a 4 year old
[22:41] <jacobw> danfish: impossible
[22:42] <diplo> Younger one been doing lot's of that recently
[22:42] <DeathSling> thinking i might need to write my own, but not sure if php, perl or bash would be best. Anyone recommend a language that would be best suited to spawning other script with the option not wait for response?
[22:42] <danfish> diplo: wonderful - can't remember the last night of unbroken sleep
[22:43] <DeathSling> 1 son, he's 8 and twin identical girls, 5 and there mental
[22:43] <jacobw> eek
[22:43] <danfish> DeathSling: python - subprocess module has that option IIRC
[22:43] <DeathSling> not in the literal sense
[22:44] <jacobw> yeah
[22:45] <DeathSling> I tried a bit of python a few of months ago, it freaks me out a bit. I don't quite it syntax
[22:45] <jacobw> why have we never been back to the moon? i want to go :(
[22:45] <diplo> danfish, honestly it does get easier
[22:45] <danfish> jacobw: a few more nights like this, and I'll be volunteering for the Mars trip - one way if necessary
[22:46] <jacobw> ha! i've seen that too
[22:46] <danfish> diplo: tx
[22:46] <diplo> Best thing I can suggest is routine and stick to it
[22:46] <diplo> After 2-3 weeks of bad nights of routine they follow suit, you just have to stick to your guns and not give in.
[22:47] <danfish> diplo: agreed. 4 year old was having a tantrum at bath time which I think affected the younger one
[22:48] <danfish> DeathSling: how did it freak you out?
[22:48] <diplo> aha you are going through exactly what we did then, 2 close together both wake each other up
[22:49] <stuphi> DeathSling: I found this helped http://code.google.com/edu/languages/google-python-class/set-up.html
[22:50] <DeathSling> diplo: am I right in thinking that you use whitespace to end multi lined if blocks and such?
[22:50] <DeathSling> sorry diplo
[22:50] <danfish> diplo: yup - boys too
[22:50] <DeathSling> meant that for danfish
[22:52] <danfish> DeathSling: it's the indenting that needs to be precise - if you want a good editor for python code, geany helps a lot with proper syntax
[22:53] <DeathSling> I shall have to have another look at it properly.
[22:53] <jacobw> the identing put off python for a long time
[22:54] <DeathSling> the indenting is all important then?
[22:54] <danfish> DeathSling: yup - in essence, you can't use tabs. 4 spaces is the 'standard'
[22:55] <jacobw> i really must develop my computer skills constructively rather than dip in and out computer stuff for projects
[22:55] <DeathSling> i see
[22:55] <danfish> gedit and nano have got extensions that help with indents etc in python
[22:56] <DeathSling> i dip in and out all the time, too impatient and too curous and WAY to much coffee
[22:56] <DeathSling> but it's what i love, i nerdy and happy
[22:57] <Azelphur> Anyone happen to have an answer to the firefox gnome theme problem? https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/765355
[22:57] <danfish> DeathSling: experience it all the time myself - "ooh shiny new thing. must try. want instant results. now bored" :)
[22:59] <DeathSling> danfish: "bored", na, must be the coffee wearing off, have more!
[23:00] <danfish> Azelphur: hmm, no setting in gconf that I can see
[23:00] <Azelphur> :(
[23:00] <danfish> DeathSling: nah, switching to jack daniels
[23:02] <jacobw> goodnight
[23:03] <danfish> nn
[23:10] <andylockran> howdy
[23:16] <danfish> lo
[23:17] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Matthew Garrett] Sigh. - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/129815.html
[23:28] <DeathSling> Mmmm jack daniels, mabey tomorrow...
[23:32] <danfish> DeathSling: sorry - to clarify, I'm sticking with coffee, the JD is for the 20 month old :P
[23:32] <DeathSling> haha
[23:33] <DeathSling> DONT give it the coffee!   :)
[23:33] <danfish> heaven forbid
[23:34] <DeathSling> if i gave my girls coffee they could power the whole of this country
[23:35] <danfish> I remember a house warming party my folks had a number of years ago. The 'bar' was in the utility room where the labrador slept. After many alcohol spills the labrador was positively wasted and very grumpy the next mornig
[23:37] <danfish> in hindsight, to be avoided. Although, certain animals do go out of their way to consume fermented fruits
[23:53] <danfish> right, son finally asleep. Time to turn in. Good sleep all :)
[23:58] <DeathSling> night danfish